1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: He's excited and he feels good. Welcome Bird Gang. On 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: today's show, Danny Surrek joins me. Kyler Murray spoke Wednesday 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: the first time in five months we've heard from QB one, 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: and what we heard is exactly what we were hoping 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: to hear. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode seven sixty four, 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: and it starts now. 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Wood to Baker, what Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again, 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: so more hurry magic. 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Griolo. 15 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: So a shout out to you, Danny Oh, our colleague 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: Zach Kershman. And is it okay if I shout out. 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: Myself depends what you're shouting out before I answer. 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: We went the distance. We were among the few that 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: stayed out for the entirety, very few of a practice 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: that lasted ninety minutes or so in near one hundred 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: degree heat. 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: We were in the shade. It's still hot. I know 23 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: we were running around like the players, but it was toasty. 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: Can't say the same thing about Starn, can't say the 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: same thing about Paul. So yeah, we were there for 26 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: the entire thing to watch some that we can report on, 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: others that we can't report on. As far as what 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: we saw on the practice. 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: Field, we must just care more. 30 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: I think that's spot of mine. We care more than 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: our colleagues do about the Arizona Cardinals here in twenty 32 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: twenty four. By the way, speaking of practice OTA number nine, 33 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: there's one more practice on Thursday and then that's it 34 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp next week. And I saw something on 35 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: Wednesday that you and Zach had seen earlier during this 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: OTA session and something that we had talked to earlier 37 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: with Zach on a previous Cardinals cover two, and that 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: is the kickoff rule. And standing there with you watching this, 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: and again, it's one thing to watch it on video, 40 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: which you and Zach both posted after that practice, it's 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: one thing, and then it's another thing to watch it 42 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: up close, because yeah, they're going half speed, but whether 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: it's DJ Dallas or Greg Dorch, whoever is back there 44 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: in that landing zone, you're not getting touched until you 45 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: crossed the twenty yard line. And this is what the 46 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: NFL wants. They're gonna have a lot more fun. Fans 47 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: are watching this, and it's gonna keep Jeff Rogers and 48 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: special teams coordinators up a lot this season. 49 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: It's weird seeing two returners now. 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: On one Yeah, one on each side. Actually they don't 51 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: technically you don't need to be on either side, but 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: you can have its minimum of two back in that 53 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: quote unquote landing zone. 54 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's interesting to watch, and the changes to 55 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: the kickoffs are are going to be so interesting for 56 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: the next year because what teams are working on right now, 57 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: I mean specifically, you know very much so right now 58 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: is there's no pads, there's no real contact, and then 59 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 3: even through training camp, I mean you're still going to 60 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: be limited, right and going against each other to a 61 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: certain extent. So it's really going to be preseason to 62 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: get a good first look, and teams aren't going to 63 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: want to show everything, So it's going to take a 64 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: couple of weeks throughout the regular season of what's working 65 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: for us, what isn't, what's working for other teams, what isn't, 66 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: and so many little aspects of when you're watching the 67 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: return team have their heads turned around because they need 68 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: to see the moment the ball is either caught or 69 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: hits the ground in the landing zone because that also 70 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: makes it a live play, and then having to turn 71 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: around and block. It's a lot that the players are 72 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: having to take on, the coaches are having to learn 73 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: and coach on the fly, and I think that makes 74 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: it fun, at least from our standpoint, intriguing to watch 75 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: that process unfold. It is weird, though, seeing two returners 76 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: and watching them have to communicate, which everyone doesn't. You know, 77 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: catch the ball is going up and blocking, It's it's fun. 78 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: It's different outside of the kicker. No one is moving 79 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: until the ball lands or is caught. And that's that's 80 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: the odds thing to see and then figure out, all right, 81 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: And if I truly believe if teams are too good 82 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: at returning, and whether that's week to week or just 83 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: one team is better than another, you will see touchbacks. 84 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: You will see the team just say, you know what, 85 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: we're kicking it out of the back of the end zone. 86 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: Take the ball at the thirty as opposed to the 87 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: thirty five or forty yard line. Because you make one 88 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: person miss as a return specialist, you might be across 89 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: the fifty. 90 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: I thought this was interesting. I think I think it 91 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 3: was Kansas City maybe a week or two ago. One 92 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 3: of their coaches was saying they were looking at the 93 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: idea of not even having like their true kicker out 94 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 3: there in case that happens, and having someone who's got 95 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 3: more of a tackling specialty. I don't know there's any truth, 96 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: but I think there's gonna be a lot of thought 97 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 3: thoughts like that and strategies worked through that sound kind 98 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 3: of crazy like that as everyone tries to figure this out. 99 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: I think the Rams mentioned it as well. The Bengals there. 100 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: It's a thought that I had never considered. But you 101 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: want another position player perhaps on the field because they're 102 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: they're better app to tackle than your kicker is So 103 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: the athleticism of a position player versus a kicker who 104 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: just doesn't wrap up the ball carrier and bring them 105 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: to the ground. 106 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, So we'll see. I'm again, we're going to be 107 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: a ways away from seeing that truly unfold. But I 108 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: mean I've got full faith than anyone. It's special teams 109 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: coordinator Jeff Rodgers, who's got hundreds of you know, trick 110 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: plays up his sleeve and as a pretty good understanding 111 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 3: of how things work in the league, So full faith 112 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: in Rogers. 113 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: It's not the number one thing I'm looking forward to 114 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: this season, but it's quite up there, maybe top five, 115 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: top three with this kickoff. The number one thing, and 116 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm alone in any of this is 117 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: seeing Kyler Murray a full off season. He's healthy. What 118 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: can he do year two in this system, but a 119 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: full season of practicing, off season of practicing within this offense, 120 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: which he was unable to do a year ago. And 121 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: Wednesday we had a chance to hear from k one 122 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: first time since Week eighteen post game against the Seattle Seahawks. 123 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: And I'll say this, Kyler Murray looks happy, says he 124 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: feels great. I think it was about a half a 125 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: dozen times he said he's excited about the upcoming season. 126 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: A handful of times he said, yeah, I feel good physically. 127 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: You could just tell Kyler's in a much better space 128 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: than he was a year ago and feels so much 129 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: more comfortable in his role, his position, his status as 130 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: starting quarterback of an NFL franchise. 131 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: There's two branches to that what is coming off as 132 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: genuine happiness and where he's at physically and in his 133 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: personal life physically being healthy, having this offseason he did 134 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: not have that last year when he's rehabbing. When he 135 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: came back in the middle of the season, you're thrown 136 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: into the fire. You can only really grasp so much 137 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: of a new scheme when you're not able to throw 138 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: the ball out at practice and you're only in meeting rooms. 139 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: So Kyler had said, you know, there were times where 140 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: I just found myself thinking, and now I'm working at 141 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 3: making sure I'm comfortable enough to where I'm not thinking, 142 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: because as a quarterback, you don't want to do that. 143 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: You want to be so comfortable and have gone through 144 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: all of these situations so many times to where you 145 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: just feel comfortable doing anything. And when talking about discussions 146 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: with offensive coordinator Drew Petsing, quarterbacks coach is He Wolfork 147 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: of Kyler saying, you know, the conversations, I've been very 148 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: positive and good of looking at what kind of stuff, 149 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: What kind of looks did we see last year that 150 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: we didn't really adjust to as well as we can now. 151 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: That makes sense. It was the first year with the 152 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: new staff being together in the scheme, and that makes sense. 153 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: So I think that when you're talking about the happiness 154 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: of Kyler and where he is, it's physically being able 155 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: to be out here and feeling good and feeling confident 156 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: in this scheme, feeling confident in the weapons that have 157 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: been placed around him, and getting Marvin Harrison Junior. On 158 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: top of the work that Michael Wilson has been putting in. 159 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,239 Speaker 3: You're beefing up the O line, still have James Connor, 160 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: try McBride right. They're making sure that Kyler is being 161 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 3: set up for success in a way that Kyler says 162 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: he hasn't felt since his Heisman year in terms of 163 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: personally right how he's feeling. That leads to the second 164 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 3: part of what Kyler's happiness seems to be coming from, 165 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 3: and he said it himself, of the natural maturation as 166 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: you grow up, as you become a pro and you 167 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: get more comfortable in yourself and in the locker room. 168 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: Kyler has really seemed to step into who he is 169 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: as a leader. We've seen that with off campus workouts, 170 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 3: trips with his receivers, his running back, his offensive lineman, 171 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: and Kyler was saying that that's important for him. That chemistry, 172 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 3: that connection, that camaraderie is important. And I think the 173 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: fact that he feels the support here, which is very 174 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: clear from this staff and from this front office. You 175 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: can tell that Kyler feels good mentally and physically with 176 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: the pieces that have been placed around him and with 177 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: the support coming down from up above. 178 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: We forget this is year six for Kyler and some 179 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: of us you've been around him a lot. It's he 180 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: still feels and looks like a young player. He'll be 181 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: twenty seven when the season begins, but for the first 182 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: time in his career, he is the oldest quarterback in 183 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: that quarterbacks room. He is maturing into a veteran in 184 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: this league. He's not that young quarterback anymore. He's not 185 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: that young college quarterback coming to the NFL where the 186 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: keys were handed to him and he was expected to 187 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: take this franchise to the next level. It takes time, 188 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: and patience is not something that we all have, and 189 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: I think we've all been patient at times, certainly with 190 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and this recovery from ACL injury, and even 191 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: acknowledged that they say year two is when you really 192 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: feel like your old self once again, but he admitted 193 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: that he has a routine that he still has to 194 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: go through to make sure the knee, the body is 195 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: ready for when he takes the football field. It's something 196 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: he's always going to have to work on to keep 197 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: his body right each and every week. And I think, look, 198 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: he mentioned it, you brought it up. You mature as 199 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: you get older. You learned things, things that didn't go well. 200 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 1: Things you're like a you know what, probably shouldn't have 201 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: done that, probably shouldn't have said that. In hindsight, I 202 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: can learn from those mistakes. We've all had those. I 203 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: think we're just seeing it from a public person that 204 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: is on display each and every day. 205 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: I think I think addressing I mean the elephant in 206 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: the room of yeah, we weren't behind closed doors, but 207 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 3: it does feel like it's a much stronger personal connection 208 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: with this head coach and this general manager. Right. I 209 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 3: think that's fair and appropriate to say, and that it's genuine. 210 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: And Kyler had said, you know, it's his relationship with 211 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon is one where you think of a friend 212 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 3: that's can't really recall how you met or how you clicked, 213 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 3: or when thing's kind of turned from being acquaintances to friends, 214 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: to close friends, but like the two of them just connect. 215 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: I think a lot of that steps from their competitive 216 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 3: nature and how detail oriented they each are. I think 217 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 3: it's clear that you know, Kyler, Yeah, he got paid, 218 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: he feels the support, and he's stepping up into the role. 219 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: I thought it was kind of funny of him talking 220 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: about being the older one of the older guys on 221 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: the team because before we heard from Kyler, we heard 222 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: from the rookie, Darius Robinson, and he was kind of 223 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: talking about if he had an NFL moment and kind 224 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: of getting to meet his teammates. And I don't want 225 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: to say he was in awe, but it kind of 226 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: hit him being on the practice field when he's out 227 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: there with you know, if he's taken reps with the 228 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 3: one he says of, Okay, I'm across Kyler Murray. This 229 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 3: is real stuff. And you know how grateful it was 230 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: and how cool it was that Kyler was making the 231 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 3: time to come up to him and talk to him 232 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: about his goals as a rookie and Kyler sharing advice 233 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 3: from his rookie year on to Darius, and that's cool. 234 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 3: I mean, someone who I don't know grew up watching 235 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 3: Kyler play football is fair, right, because there's really not 236 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: that much of an age difference. But Kyler was saying, yeah, 237 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: I take it as a compliment, like I'm where I 238 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 3: want to be, and it's taken a lot of work 239 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: to get here. And there's pros and cons of having 240 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 3: more of a younger team versus is an older, veteran 241 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: heavy team. And I think one of the pros of 242 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 3: having a younger team is once more similar of maybe 243 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: stages of life and just being able to kind of 244 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: click more with each other. 245 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: To the point that you made about Darius Robinson, Kyler's 246 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: in that spot right now age wise to where I no, 247 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: maybe players aren't growing up watching him, but they all 248 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: know who he is, whether that's at college or early 249 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: stages in the NFL. All these incoming draftees are coming 250 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: in wanting to be on the field and share the 251 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: field with Kyler Murray. They've seen him in action, whether 252 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: that was twenty nineteen or two years ago or last season. 253 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden they're sharing the same field, 254 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: sharing the same locker room, and there is a little 255 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: bit of an awe when you have that superstar in 256 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: the locker room that everyone knows, but you wonder if 257 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: they know who you are. And the fact that Kyler 258 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: is open and willing to share introduce himself. We've seen 259 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: him how many times during the offseason on these thirty 260 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: visits the players after they've been drafted. Oh yeah, Kyler 261 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: was here. I met Kyler briefly. Probably doesn't even remember 262 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: who I am now. Oh no, Kyler knows. He is 263 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: exactly aware of what is going on in this building. 264 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: He had to be here a year ago because of 265 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: the ACL injury in the rehab. He wants to be 266 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: in this building now, work to be done with the knee, 267 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: but also to make this team better for hopefully a 268 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: playoff run and a sustained playoff run. Heck, he brought 269 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: up the super Bowl. He was asked about his expectation, 270 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: his goal for the season, without hesitation, super Bowl, And 271 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: that's just his mentality that he has each and every season. 272 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: When your quarterback has a mentality is at voluntary workouts, 273 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: not just going through the motions. That's gonna want everybody 274 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 3: else is going to want to step up their game 275 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: to match his level. And the fact that Kyler, when 276 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: he was asking is it important for you to talk 277 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: to the rookies and kind of get to know him, 278 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: because Kyler says, well, they're my teammates, right, Like, that's 279 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: of course I'm going to want to do that essentially, Right. 280 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: Is that I care? And I think that's whether or 281 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: not I'm not going to say he didn't care earlier, 282 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: but I think as you get older, you start things, 283 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: your order of what is important to you maybe change 284 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. And yeah, Okay, you come in, it's 285 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: a job, and you want to make money, and now 286 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you've got the money. Wait, I 287 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: want to win, and Kyler has been a winner his 288 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: entire life until he got to the NFL and has 289 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: just one playoff experience, and I think that now, right 290 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: now is really driving him to get not just himself 291 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: into the playoffs, but this team and elevate this team 292 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: to a place it has never been, and that is 293 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: being able to hoist that Lombardi Trophy. 294 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: I think it's it's fair and realistic to have high 295 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: expectations for this offense when Kyler is out there, because 296 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: because despite all the injuries and Kyler coming back mid 297 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: season last year and in all the adversity there was 298 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: a clear jump when one stepped out onto the field 299 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: of the way that the offense moved and flowed, communicated, 300 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: got the ball down field, was putting points on the board. 301 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: So now you give him a full off season when 302 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,359 Speaker 3: he's healthy, when he can really dive into this playbook, 303 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: kind of make you get his fingers on a little 304 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: of what he really likes out of it, what he wants, 305 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: maybe a little bit more of chemistry with his receivers. 306 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: I really I think it's fair. I don't want to 307 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit here and say the Cardinals are going 308 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: to have a twelve win season, right like, put your 309 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: money down, But I think it's fair to say that 310 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 3: the expectations are high. And he's also going into year six. 311 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: This is what you expect out of a franchise quarterback 312 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 3: at this point. 313 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: Here are the numbers to back up exactly what you said. 314 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: The eight game sample size that we have from Kyler 315 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: Murray a year ago. The offense with Kyler Murray ninth 316 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: in total yards compared to twenty sixth without thirteenth in points, 317 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: averaging better than twenty two a game without less than 318 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: seventeen points a game. That is the difference that k 319 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: one made a year ago without any practice time whatsoever, 320 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: and not being able to go back and work on 321 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 1: those things, correct those things because week to week you're 322 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: getting ready for the next week's opponent and don't really 323 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: have that time to sit down with your coaching staff, 324 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: your teammates and say, all right, this is what I'm seeing, 325 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: this is where I need you to be. Some of 326 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: that was going on, but you're worried about what the 327 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: RAMS defense is going to do. You're not worried right 328 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: now about Hey, I need you to be in this 329 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: spot and don't break off that route too soon. We 330 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: need you to be a little bit more extended running 331 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: that route. And I think some of that was happening. 332 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: We saw it with Michael Wilson a lot, especially after 333 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: the pick six that Kyler took it upon him though 334 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: that was on me. Michael said no, no, no, that 335 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: was my fault, and then they came back. Kyler came 336 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: right back to Michael Wilson and they got that touchdown. 337 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: Some of that was happening. But now here this offseason, 338 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: I think you're really hoing in on those little things 339 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: that you can correct, and little things I'm going to 340 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: quote Paul Calvic here. But little things become big things, 341 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: and that's what separates you from four wins to maybe 342 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: ten to eleven twelve wins this year. 343 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the expectation of when you have little turnover 344 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 3: with this coaching staff and with the players who have 345 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: an understanding of the bones of your playbook. Because I mean, 346 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 3: it's been made very clear that changes have been made 347 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 3: this year outside linebackers. Daven Collin said it, you know, 348 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 3: in hindsight, what we were doing last year on defense 349 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 3: was pretty vanilla that he and Dennis Gardek are talking about. 350 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: This is this a lot we got to learn this year, right, 351 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 3: So I think we can expect to see some changes 352 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 3: and some jumps offensively defensively. Kyler had nothing but fantastic 353 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: things to say when asked about some of his receivers 354 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 3: and Michael Wilson in the jump that Wilson has already 355 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 3: made going into year two. He didn't even have a 356 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: full season last year as a rookie, dealing with some injuries, 357 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 3: and Gyler said, it's not like, you know, Wilson is 358 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 3: making these jumps because he had a bad rookie year. 359 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 3: He's just really fine tuning things and he's gonna be 360 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: a problem, especially opposite of you know, Harrison. When Kyler 361 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 3: brought up Greg Dortch, that was really interesting. My ears 362 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 3: perked up a little bit. Dortch has always performed when 363 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: his number has been called upon training camp, used sporadically 364 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 3: throughout the season. He just never really carved out a 365 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 3: full time role on offense here. I don't know if 366 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 3: that was something more on the mental side of you know, 367 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: maybe mistakes being made that to our eye we aren't seeing. 368 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 3: Was that more off he just was never going to 369 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: climb the depth chart above Rondel Moore. Doorsch has continued, though, 370 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: from what we've seen, out a practices of looking good, 371 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 3: getting reps with the ones, and when asked, you know, 372 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: maybe an underrated part of George's game. Kyler had said 373 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 3: he has got the savviness and the nuance that you 374 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: can't coach in a receiver, and not a lot of 375 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 3: receivers have, and that he trusts Dorch to get open 376 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 3: against any defender. He said, if Dorch were six ' three, 377 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 3: he'd be a top five pick in the NFL. That's 378 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 3: pretty telling. 379 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: Called Dortsch unguardable, and this is a player I'll be 380 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: honest with the way the offseason was going. You add 381 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: DJ Dallas, Okay, well, what does that mean for Greg Dortch. 382 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: Oh wait, Rondell Moore has been traded. Okay, maybe there's 383 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: an opportunity for Doors to get some move some more 384 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: snaps in the slot. Oh wait a second, you just 385 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: signed Zay Jones, who can play the slot. The more 386 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: more and more this offseason continues, the less and less 387 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: I feel that Dorsch will not have a major role 388 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: within this offense. I do believe he is among your 389 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: top three, top four wide receivers. And then you throw 390 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: in a James Connor and a Train McBride. It's gonna 391 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: be tough to get everyone involved each and every week. 392 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: But there is no question that Kyler Murray trusts, believes 393 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: in and has no problem throwing the ball to number 394 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: four Greg dors because Doorch is gonna catch it, and 395 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: when he does catch it, he's gonna make defenders miss, 396 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: He's gonna make things happen. Unprompted. Earlier on Wednesday, Jonathan 397 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: Gannon brought up Greg Dortch talking about how excellent of 398 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: a job he's doing and the slot. When JG. Brings 399 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: up a player or says something that was not in 400 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: response to a question. That always perks my ears as 401 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: far as okay, you're telling us this why Deorch is 402 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: doing something on that field behind you Danny this offseason 403 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: that might have an immediate impact on his personal game 404 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: this season within this offense. 405 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 3: That's fantastic to hear. You want someone who's gonna trend 406 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 3: upwards a year after year and if we're gonna if 407 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: we're gonna end up seeing Harrison out wide, Wilson opposite 408 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 3: of that, you've got Trey McBride as you're starting tight end. 409 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 3: You've got James Connor in the backfield or even coming 410 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 3: out as a receiver. If Greg Dortch is the one 411 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 3: who the defense is not going to really take into 412 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 3: account and Dorsch is the one who's gonna get open 413 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: and continue to get yards after catch and move the 414 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 3: ball downfield, great, who cares who it is? Right Like, 415 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: if it's Dorsch, amazing. You love to hear that. A 416 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 3: player who went on draft and has had this chip 417 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 3: on his shoulder and worked hard year after year and 418 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 3: being on the practice squad and not really having a 419 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: role and being more on special teams like it. That's great. 420 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 3: You want him to find success, and it seems like 421 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 3: he's really doing that for him. Gannon also talked about 422 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 3: Michael Wilson Wednesday morning and sharing a story about how Wilson, 423 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 3: you know from practice learned, is you know, three spot 424 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 3: multi spot receiver, Like he's not just lining up at 425 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: the X or wherever you need to be. There was 426 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: a play where originally Wilson was supposed to be the 427 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: X and ended up in the Z, and as Kyler 428 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: is going through his reads in the checkdown, he ends 429 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 3: up finding Wilson And that wasn't even who he was 430 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 3: supposed to go to or where Wilson was originally supposed 431 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: to be on the play, but he knew where to go. 432 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,239 Speaker 3: So yeah, Georch and Wilson getting some high praises this 433 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 3: early in the offseason. 434 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: And then of course the questions obviously were asked to 435 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: Kyler about Marvin Harrison Junior. And you've got a rookie 436 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: coming in who already has been handed the keys as 437 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: far as the number one wide receiver, and then you 438 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: talk about earning a quarterback to trust. And I believe 439 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: it was Paul who asked it about you know, what 440 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: does a newcomer have to do? And not that Kyler 441 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: dismissed the question, but it was, wait, Marvin, we all 442 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: know what Marvin Harrison Junior can do. 443 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: I don't. 444 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to earn my trust now he can learn. 445 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: He can lose my trust if he starts dropping footballs. 446 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: But I don't think anyone's expecting that to happen. But 447 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: Marvin has come in already and he has already made 448 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: a good, solid first impression. He had a bunch of 449 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: highlights and a bunch of cachet coming in here. But 450 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: there is no question who number one wide receiver is. 451 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: It's Marvin Harrison Jr. Who, for the first time in 452 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: a while, maybe since d Hop was here, you have 453 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: that wide receiver who will dictate coverage or on the 454 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: words that Kyler Murray used, manipulate coverage to where now, 455 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you break the huddle, eighteen goes 456 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: one way. You see where the defense shifts. Okay, that's 457 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: Michael Wilson, that's Greg Doors, that's Trey McBride, that James Connor, 458 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: perhaps Trey Benson out of the backfield. All right, we'll 459 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: feed eighteen because as Murray said, even when he's not open, 460 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: he's open. I don't know if you could have say 461 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: that about very many wide receivers outside of d Hop 462 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: and maybe even a Larry Fitzgerald. But that's what Marvin 463 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: is bringing to this offense. 464 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: That's what was missing last year, right. We talked about that, 465 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: and there were a lot of factors in play of 466 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 3: quarterback carousel and again all that stuff. It is very 467 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: clear that even as a rookie, Harrison is your number 468 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 3: one receiver. Just from what he's done in college, from 469 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 3: what he has shown his teammates and his coaching staff 470 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 3: in the short amount of time out here, He's gonna 471 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: earn it. There's no question in that regard of having 472 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 3: the physical attributes, having the intelligence of doing what he 473 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: needs to do. When we have been in the same 474 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 3: space as Harrison, of having the right mentality and the 475 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: attitude and the humility, it really does feel like he 476 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 3: has every piece you'd want to check off from a 477 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 3: number one receiver and to have that as a rookie. 478 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 3: So I can't even say his rookie season has started 479 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 3: his rookie off season. It's it's great news where things 480 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 3: are trending by having Harrison out there with this offense. 481 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: We recently talked about expectations in terms of trying to 482 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: figure out statistically. There was at ESPN dot com article 483 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: as far as projecting where Marvin Harrison Junior was going 484 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: to land and I get, how did you push back? 485 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: But you don't like putting numbers on rookies, And that's 486 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: very fair. And I thought it was interesting because the 487 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: question was asked to JG earlier on Wednesday about that 488 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: Murray to Harrison connection, and JG's like, I'm just worried 489 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: about practice today. But then he did add this, The 490 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: name of the game is to score points, and JG 491 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: is fully expecting with Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison Junior 492 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: on the football field to score points, even if it's 493 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: not a direct pass from Murray to Marvin. But having 494 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: Marvin on the football field will allow everyone else to 495 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: be better at their individual job. 496 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 3: It's going to make a difference. I mean, there are 497 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 3: teams you don't have to have those type of players. 498 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 3: Makes a difference, makes a difference for an offense to 499 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 3: go and see where number three is, where's budda Baker 500 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: Where we know not to throw the ball where you 501 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 3: know what part of the field are we going to 502 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 3: try to avoid there. It was the same when JJ 503 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 3: Watt was here. 504 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you. 505 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 3: Don't have to have those type of players. It makes 506 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 3: a world of difference. And having eighteen out there is 507 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 3: going to make a world of difference for what this 508 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 3: offense can do, especially with how this offense likes to 509 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 3: and is planning on running the ball and play action. 510 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 3: And we haven't even really taken that to account with 511 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: our discussion here today. We've just really been talking about 512 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 3: the passing game. There are so many aspects where Kyler's right, 513 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: like open or not we're going to go to Marvin 514 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: Harrison Junior. And if we're not, we've got plenty of 515 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 3: other options that can also lead us to success. 516 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: That run game, you're sucking in another defender in the box, 517 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: which leaves less double team coverage to a pass catcher. 518 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: So it locally here there is a lot of excitement 519 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: about what this offense potentially can do. Nationally, I think 520 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: it's you're still in that weight and seed mode. And 521 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: I get it because four win seasons, four win teams 522 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: a year ago don't get a lot of that attention. 523 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: But there is and maybe we're too close, but I 524 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: do get the feeling, and it's a good feeling. There's 525 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: a good vibe here that despite what happened a year ago, 526 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: you win four games the way the season ended those 527 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: last three with how well Kyler was playing individually, only 528 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: got the one win, but he was completing almost seventy 529 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: two percent of his passes. He was throwing too different 530 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 1: pass catchers, the football was moving up and down. The field. 531 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: Just got to be a little more successful inside the 532 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: red zone. Now you have a Marvin Harrison junior who 533 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: can do that for you inside the twenty yard line, 534 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: to allow Trey McBride to sneak in underneath, throw a 535 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: Greg dor S or open up rushing lanes for James Connor. 536 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: This offense should be a heck of a lot better 537 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: than it was a year ago. 538 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 3: And you're still focusing on the offensive line. I mean, 539 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 3: I think moving Paris from right to left is a 540 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: great decision. He had a good rookie year on the 541 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: right side. He's comfortable on the left side. Actually he's 542 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 3: not to imply he's not comfortable on the right side, 543 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 3: but that's where he spent a lot of time in college. 544 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 3: I would imagine the long term plan when drafting Johnson 545 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 3: a year ago would be he's going to be your 546 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 3: future blind side tackle, a pillar of this offensive line. 547 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 3: And then you bring in Jonah Williams, an experienced tackle 548 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: who played right tackle last year with the Bengals, to 549 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: be opposite of him. You've got Evan Brown, who's right now, 550 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 3: mostly been practicing at left guard, who's experienced him. From 551 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: what every single teammate and coach that's been asked about 552 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 3: Brown has mentioned his power and strength right off the 553 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: bat is good news to hear. So, I mean, it's 554 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: this entire offense. Yes, it seems very intentional. It might 555 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: not seem like a massive overhaul the way the defense was, 556 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 3: but you can tell that it's been very intentional the 557 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 3: pieces that have been brought into this offense. 558 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: Speaking of Paris Johnson Junior, is there some controversy brilling 559 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: between him and his quarterback in terms of just how 560 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: well Paris can hit the baseball? 561 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 3: Doesn't sound like there's much controversy because Kyler sounded pretty 562 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: strong in his conviction that Paris was not good. When 563 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 3: Paris had talked to the media, you know, they'd all 564 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 3: gone to Oklahoma for a basketball game, and then they 565 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: went to Norman to see Kyler's Heisman statue, and they 566 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: were out on the baseball diamond and we saw some 567 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: videos of some of the players at batting practice, and 568 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: Paris had said that you guys only saw the videos 569 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: where I was, you know, striking out. You didn't see 570 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 3: the videos where I hit you know, two of them before. 571 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: And then when asked to Kyler, like I couldn't even 572 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 3: get my foot question out when he was shutting me 573 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 3: down that no, Paris did not hit any he looked horrible. 574 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: Horrible, that was the word. Yeah, it was very emphatic 575 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: about as definitive as Kyler was to any of the 576 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: questions I was asked for to him. And what was 577 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: a better than twenty minute press conference. 578 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: On Wednesday if anyone was curious. Apparently nobody comes close 579 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: to giving Kyler competition at chess either, which I would 580 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 3: also believe. 581 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: That's the other thing. A very good, a great chess player, 582 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 1: and the fact that he takes pride in being the 583 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: fourth and fifth grade champion chess player in school. He 584 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: made sure to point that at it as well. 585 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 3: Lots of accolades and Kyler's career so far intellectually physically either. 586 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: I've played chess. It's been so long I don't even 587 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: know if I could do it anymore. 588 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever even really played on a board. 589 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 3: I think I've just played on an I don't even 590 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 3: think I've ever properly learned Probably checkers. 591 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: I can do checkers. 592 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 3: You can get chat to play checkers on a long 593 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 3: time though. 594 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, it's over one hundred degrees here 595 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, So go cool off and take pride in 596 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: the fact that you, Zach myself the only ones within 597 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: the content and creative team, at least amongst our little 598 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: group that endured what we had to endure on Wednesday. 599 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 3: You're kicking me off Cover two for quite a while, Craig, 600 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 3: I am doing. Are you going to bring me back 601 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 3: after vacation or what. 602 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: Do you want to come back? The door is always 603 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: not open as we speak, but the door is always open. 604 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: Feel free to whenever you want. Daddy just come right in. 605 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, because we're got some trips planned and vacations. 606 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: Getting to that point yeah where everyone basically just disappears 607 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: until the week before training camp begins. 608 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I hope you bring me back. If not, 609 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: it's been a fun ride. 610 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: By the way, I'll say this, it's been a fun ride. 611 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: I'll say this as long as it was between the 612 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: end of the season to the draft. It has been very, 613 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: very quick between the draft and now. 614 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 3: I agree because we have more things to talk about 615 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 3: other than mocked drafts. 616 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: Your favorite mocked drafts and draft speculation. 617 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you love that. 618 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: Enjoy the time away, it's deserved, and uh yes, we 619 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: will see you back again. 620 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 3: Can't wait breaking news, I'm still here. 621 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: On that note, we want Danny to be still here. 622 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: On that note, we'll put a lid on. This edition 623 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Yundai, proud partner of 624 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, has always special thanks to our executive 625 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: producer Jim Amindro our associate producer Cody Fincher. For Danny surek, 626 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm Craig rial Lou. We'll talk to you next time 627 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two.