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Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten touched up Doc.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of

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Speaker 2: Chargers Weekly, as always, joined by Matt Bunny Smith. Excuse

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Speaker 2: my white background here as I move and get settled

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Speaker 2: into this new office, But as Buddy alluded to, my

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Speaker 2: WiFi is much better. So I think that's the win

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Speaker 2: of the day. We're gonna get into what Joey Bosa

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Speaker 2: and Khalil Mack had to say during day one of

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Speaker 2: OTA's also a lot of new items on the agenda

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Speaker 2: with regards to the owners, beatings but money. The lead

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Speaker 2: of the week is that Austin Eckler is coming back

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Speaker 2: to the Chargers this year, and I feel like over

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Speaker 2: the last several months we've spent a lot of time

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Speaker 2: wondering if that was gonna be the case. I think

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Speaker 2: there were certain times where we thought that it was

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Speaker 2: not going to be the case. But Austin is gonna

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Speaker 2: be in Powder Blue this year, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: a good thing for all involved.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's right and step I'm by no

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Speaker 1: means trying to pat us on the back ourselves on

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Speaker 1: the back here, but it's right in step with what

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Speaker 1: we've been talking about for you know, since this whole

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Speaker 1: thing emerged, seemed like and it's weird to talk in

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Speaker 1: these sort of numbers as a lay person walking around

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Speaker 1: the United States, but we said, look, you add two

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Speaker 1: it would be tack on a little extra and then

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Speaker 1: add a year a mutual option. So on that front,

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Speaker 1: I got it wrong a little bit. But I just assumed,

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Speaker 1: sort of knowing the history of the two parties and

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Speaker 1: how this conversation had been working over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years, and what they had been trying to do

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Speaker 1: with Austin, and perhaps what he was receptive to and

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Speaker 1: what his agent was resistant to, I figured this was

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Speaker 1: going to be the resolution that we appreciate. You take

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Speaker 1: these millions of dollars, and I know their incentives, but

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Speaker 1: when you look at them, they're easily attainable incentives based

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Speaker 1: on what Austin has done the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: The biggest one is total yards. It's I think eleven hundred.

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Speaker 1: He's just been way past that the last two years.

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Speaker 1: last two years, so those should be attainable. He should

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Speaker 1: get all one point seventy five or two million bucks

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Speaker 1: of the incentives, and that's a win for him, you know,

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Speaker 1: instead of six and a half, you make eight and

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Speaker 1: a half million bucks. And then if things are going great,

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Speaker 1: you let him test the market and if there's something

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Speaker 1: more out there good for him, you earned it, go

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Speaker 1: they'd gladly welcome him back on a team friendly and

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Speaker 2: I think this is an example of just the respect

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Speaker 2: level that the Chargers have for Austin Eckler, because they

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Speaker 2: they gave him a deal. First of all, they brought

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Speaker 2: him in a camp and he made the team and

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Speaker 2: he earned that. But when Melvin Gordon's deal went awry

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Speaker 2: and Austin kind of took the rain, they paid Austin

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Speaker 2: right and he over delivered frankly on that contract. And

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Speaker 2: now they're at a point where the running back market

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Speaker 2: is what it is. I think Austin found that out

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Speaker 2: this is what we're gonna do. So Tom Polisero reported this.

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Speaker 2: This is just the specifics of the incentives up to

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Speaker 2: one million dollars for total yards tiers eleven hundred to

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Speaker 2: sixteen hundred. He's going to get that, no problem. Six

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Speaker 2: hundred K for touchdowns ten to sixteen. You know, he's

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty k for the Pro Bowl. This is

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Speaker 2: the one thing that's kind of a looted Austin. Why

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Speaker 2: nice for Austin and it allows us to now kind

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Speaker 2: there was so much uncertain uncertainly about the running back

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Speaker 1: And the key was this is such a great exercise

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Speaker 1: You can never let it get personal. Business is business.

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Speaker 1: It's what they do. They have a bottom line, and

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Speaker 1: happy to see that both sides never Melvin made it

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Speaker 1: Tom and the Chargers was there like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: we just offered you all this money. This is one

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Speaker 1: And so they took it personal. And then Melvin took

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Speaker 1: how that played out. And it's unfortunate because Melvin and

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Speaker 1: we understand. Go make as much as you can. And

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Speaker 1: for Austin to say, I appreciate them. They paid me

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Speaker 1: Fair or not, it's the reality of what it is.

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Speaker 1: You are paid what the market will pay you. Hopefully,

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Speaker 1: I would love to see Austin have a huge year.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know him, you know Eckler. He's one

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Speaker 1: just the market. You've got to make all You've got

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Speaker 1: it goes back to what we said repeatedly through this

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Speaker 2: I think the first step in the good faith was

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Speaker 2: And then when you see how free agents shook out,

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Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt and Zeke Elliott, and there's countless guys that

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Speaker 2: and I looked at Tony Pollard's numbers because this is like,

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, for me, the one thing you really

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Speaker 1: Last thing I'll add on Austin. And I know there's

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Speaker 2: And we don't have to talk about it anymore, right,

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Speaker 1: You know, they're up big and then they just let

433
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Speaker 1: them creep back into the game instead of being able

434
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Speaker 1: to get a bunch of rest. Same with Cleveland. You

435
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Speaker 1: know they go down early and it's like, what are

436
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Speaker 1: we doing? Like they That to me is the next

437
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Speaker 1: step in the evolution. If they're going to win a

438
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, they got to start dominating teams and resting guys.

439
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: You got a lot of older players on this team

440
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 1: now in Keenan and Joey and Khalil Derwin tends to

441
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: get nicked up throughout the course of the year because

442
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 1: of how aggressive and violent a brand of football he plays.

443
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: That's something that I want to see because I don't

444
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: think there's any way around it. If you continue to

445
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Speaker 1: play like the Chargers have in these close games that

446
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: come down to the final possession or the final you know,

447
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 1: four or five minutes of a quarter, it's inevitable. Guys

448
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: are playing too many snaps. It's not a deep defensive line.

449
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: We're already talking about a twenty year old rookie as

450
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Speaker 1: being the third edge rusher. Unless they can find something

451
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Speaker 1: out there on the free agent market, if Van Noy

452
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: comes back, if Leonard Floyd's a reality, you're you're talking

453
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Speaker 1: about a twenty year old rookie being the number one

454
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Speaker 1: guy behind Joey or Khalil when each of them want

455
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: to breather for a team that has Super Bowl aspirations,

456
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: that's a lot to ask. So the best way to

457
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: go about that is to go up three touchdowns in

458
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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter so they don't have to be out

459
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Speaker 1: there and they can get some rest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, when you put it like that, just where

461
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 2: were you when you were twenty not the primary backup

462
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: to Khalil Mager, Joey Bosa? Right like right, Tool's gonna

463
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Speaker 2: I think Tools gonna be excellent. I really do. Khalil

464
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: said he's super quiet, but I think he's gonna be excellent.

465
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Speaker 2: Derek Hansley said he's wise beyond his years. But at

466
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 2: the same time, I do think twenty at least twenty

467
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 2: years late. Bringing another edge rusher, whether it's a guy

468
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 2: like Floyd or van Ney or whoever's out there at

469
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Speaker 2: this point that they think makes sense, is good. Nick

470
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 2: Williams being added to the to the rotation, just an

471
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: another body across the defensive line. I think that's encouraging,

472
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 2: but I don't think they're done at the edge position.

473
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Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think that there needs to

474
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Speaker 2: be another, maybe another addition there, just because you can't

475
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: fully rely on guys who are older if you don't

476
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 2: put teams away and like Philly is the perfect example.

477
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 2: Last year they put teams away, man and they got

478
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: to move on to the next game. Chargers need to

479
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: learn how to win and do those types of things.

480
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 2: And somebody asked Joey about just you know, the history

481
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 2: of the team and you know big moments and coming

482
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: up short and big moments, and he says, this is

483
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 2: a collective effort. Everybody has to talk about it and

484
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 2: believe that this is the team that can get over

485
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Speaker 2: the home So hopefully they do that.

486
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Speaker 1: Yeah. The one thing that and I think we all

487
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Speaker 1: know how much respect we have for the front office,

488
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: the incredible job they've done year after year and building

489
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Speaker 1: this team, hitting on draft picks and finding undrafted free

490
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Speaker 1: agents that contribute or late round pick Jamari Sawyer. We've

491
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: been talking about Austin Eckler. We're going to get into

492
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Speaker 1: the safeties. I'm sure a little bit Rahem Lane and

493
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Speaker 1: what he was able to do special teams wise and

494
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: getting out there for some snaps. They tend to find

495
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: it every year. But if I am, you know, just

496
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: gonna try to play it straight and be a little

497
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: bit critical, I'd just love to see them be I

498
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: don't know if aggressive is the right word, if creative

499
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: is the right word, but I just want to see

500
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Speaker 1: them sort of get a little more aggressive and get

501
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: after it. When you see, yeah, Jeffreya Kouda getting traded

502
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: for a fifth, DeAndre Swift getting traded for a fifth

503
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: or a six, whatever it is, I want to see

504
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: them get in on those deals, you know, get get

505
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: after it a little bit like some of these teams

506
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: that have these Super Bowl designs and say, yeah, fifth

507
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: ground pick could be nice, and it'd be you know,

508
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollars, say, perhaps likely special teamer who

509
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: could work his way into a rotation. But that's DeAndre Swift.

510
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: You know, that's a dude. It's a potential thousand yard back.

511
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: That's a full service, three down back that played really

512
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: well last year when he was on the field. Jeff

513
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,239
Speaker 1: Akuda was a number three overall pick that just had

514
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: to deal with serious injuries, you know, in Detroit and

515
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: couldn't quite get past it, and sort of the two

516
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: sides just needed a divorce in order to try to

517
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: get healthier. When I look out on the free agent

518
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: market and I see Yannick and Goakway and Leonard Floyd

519
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: and Marcus Peters, take a flyer, take a flyer on it.

520
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: Why not if Frank Clark figure out a way to

521
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: get creative, convert some salary to signing bonus. Let's get

522
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: these guys in here. If you really are chasing a

523
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 1: super Bowl, bring Bryce Callahan back, go get John Johnson.

524
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: Like that's That's what I'm waiting for. That to me

525
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: is the next step of recognizing this is our window.

526
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,239
Speaker 1: Our window is right now, and we have got to

527
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: push all of our chips into the middle. These aren't

528
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: development inhibitors. These are legitimate rotation players that can help

529
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Speaker 1: us win. Now, I say that, and I understand there

530
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: are two sides. Those players may say and Tom may

531
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: have already called and said, wait, Leonard, we'd love to

532
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: have you. We've got two and a half million bucks,

533
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: and him saying, Eh, i'mna wait. I'm gonna sit this

534
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: one out. I'll wait to see if somebody goes down

535
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: in training camp and if I can get myself five

536
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: million bucks instead of two and a half, which is fine,

537
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: and that's understandable. But I think just overall some of

538
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: the trades that happened, some of the Denzel Mims is

539
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: a guy that we talked about forever, like I just

540
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: go pluck that guy for a fifth or a sixth rounder.

541
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Speaker 1: You look at the receivers they've signed, the receivers they've drafted.

542
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: That guy's not gonna be on that Jets team. He's

543
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: in the last year of his rookie deal. I get that,

544
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: Go get them, Go get him, take a flyer on him,

545
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: Trade a seventh round pick, trade a sixth round pick

546
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: for him, and just go get him and see if

547
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: that's somebody else to add to the mix, to just

548
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: get more vertical with this team. That's the sort of

549
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: stuff I'm waiting to see and would love to see

550
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: from this front office with some of the players that

551
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: are available, specifically along that defensive line. Yeah, because and

552
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: that's sort of what spurred it. Chris is just thinking

553
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: about You've got Bosa Khalil Mack and the next guy

554
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: behind him is tull, a twenty year old that you

555
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: just drafted. That's got to get resolved. That there has

556
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: got to be some sort of you know, some something

557
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: has got to be sorted out there, and it needs

558
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: to happen probably a little bit sooner than later.

559
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: I think that they, you know, you go back to

560
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, I think that we've started

561
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: to see signs of them going forward. When you signed

562
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: Corey Linsley the best center of football, you're going for it.

563
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: When you signed j C. Jackson too, that record money

564
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: they were going for last year, you trade for Khalil Mack.

565
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: So you hope that the fruits of some of those

566
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: decisions will will will bear this year with JC coming

567
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: back Week one, with Khalil being able to operate as

568
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: Khalil Mack, with Joey Bosa on the other side, Corey

569
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: has been a rock. You know, he had some injuries

570
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: bang up a little bit this year, but you know,

571
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: Corey's at.

572
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Speaker 1: The top of you I guess you know what, Chris,

573
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: That's why maybe aggressive isn't the right word, because you're right, yeah,

574
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: they have been aggressive. They made Corey the highest paid center,

575
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: the second rounder for Khalil. I think what I'm getting

576
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: to is creative, like, just pick up the phone and

577
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: let's start. Let's start calling around. Let's let's look at

578
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: some of these rosters and figure out where is their excess.

579
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: Where might we be on the margins? Where can we

580
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: get creative on the margins? To me, the Eagles plucking

581
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift the second they recognize they signed Montgomery Jamir

582
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: Gibbs's draft that, Hey, boom, let's call what are you

583
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: doing with Swift? What do you got? Fifth rounder? Great?

584
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: Let's go who is available?

585
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: Penny? You know, doing those little things. They traded for

586
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: A j. Brown the year before. I think just continuing

587
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: to keep get creative, your foot on the gas right

588
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: throughout the year too, you know. And you just go

589
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: back to the Rams a couple of years ago when

590
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: they traded for Von Miller and Odell Beckham, and you know,

591
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: the first three weeks, oh is this gonna backfire? And

592
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: then they hit their stride and they won a Super Bowl? Right,

593
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: So I think that they have so much talent on

594
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: this team money. I'm one hundred percent with you get creative.

595
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: Say hey, we need that third edgresser that's a veteran

596
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: to protect ourselves in case Joey or Khalil goes down

597
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: and has to miss some time. I think they did

598
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: that at the wide receiver position with with Quinton and

599
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: having Keenan and Mike there and seeing Josh Palmer's development corner.

600
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: You know, the way that that Zon came on last

601
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: year and Michael Davis came on. If you get j C.

602
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: Jackson back and you bring Bryce Callahan, all of a sudden,

603
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: you're you're cooking in the secondary. You know, we know

604
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: what Derwin is. We talked a lot in depth about

605
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: the safety position last UH last week with Jalil, about

606
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: Gilman and just how J. T. Woods needs to come

607
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: on with three. But there are things to be done

608
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: right and who knows if it's a if it's another

609
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: running back, you know, if Zeke Elliott is there and

610
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore knows him and he ain't gonna cost much,

611
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows. Bring creative in, you know, get

612
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 2: creative and stay aggressive. I think that's the that's kind

613
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: of the model of this year because it's not just

614
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: by getting to the wildcard run. You have to win

615
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: a couple of games this year.

616
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: In the playoffs, no doubt, no doubt, team's ready to

617
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. Yeah, that's that's just you know,

618
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: and you have to the front office has to respond

619
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: to that.

620
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: Got it.

621
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: If you're you're getting better, you're getting worse. Very few

622
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: teams plateau because everything around you is changing. Are the

623
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: Chiefs getting better? They getting worse? Are the Broncos getting better?

624
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: Getting worse? Are the Raiders getting better? Are they getting worse?

625
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: Are you getting better? Are you getting worse? Easiest way

626
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: into the postseasons to win the division? Look at the division?

627
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: How do we stack up? What do we need to

628
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: stack up better? You know, you probably got to go

629
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: at Patrick Mahomes in waves, right, You've got to get

630
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: after You've got to be able to put thirty points

631
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: up against the Chiefs. You're not going to win the game, right,

632
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: So let's make sure the offense can score thirty against them,

633
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: and let's make sure the defense has enough depth where

634
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: we can come and wait and we can chase him

635
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: down snap after snap after snap so he does not

636
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: get a breather. And that's something that that need, I

637
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: believe still needs to be addressed on the edges, yep.

638
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: And you know what, maybe after June first, we'll have

639
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: a little bit more clarity and you're hunt right. Maybe

640
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: they called Leonard Floyd. Andy said, hey, what do you think?

641
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: And he says, well, I want to wait it out

642
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: a little bit. I got some of the teams calling.

643
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

644
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of moving parts here. He remember

645
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: we talked about this before. The guys like van Ney

646
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Speaker 2: and Morgan Fox were signed after the draft in twenty

647
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Speaker 2: twenty two. So buddy, we'll end here the the onerous meetings.

648
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: Some interesting things going down there. Do you want to

649
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: start with this special teams rule because it's it's I

650
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: can't imagine special teams coordinators are too thrilled with what's

651
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: going to take place this upcoming season.

652
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: Well certainly negates drafting Darius Davis, you know, and the

653
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: right to use a fourth rounder and pay a premium

654
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: on a returner when you recognize, no matter where they

655
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Speaker 1: drop that ball, that would be my And this is

656
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Speaker 1: where it's going to be interesting for coach Ficking. And

657
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: this is where offensive coordinators get in trouble. And when

658
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: you run the ball for five yards a clip and

659
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: you're an effective offense and you're winning games, and now

660
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're OC wants to a little

661
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: creative and throw the ball around, because hey man, nobody's

662
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about me if we're just running the

663
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: ball and winning games twenty four to eighteen. So I've

664
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Speaker 1: got I got to put some sizzle in there, and

665
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: that's how you end up losing games. So for coach Ficking,

666
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to how he's gonna want

667
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: to approach it because to me, give me the ball

668
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: to twenty five every time, Yeah, give me the ball

669
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: twenty I am not returning.

670
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: For people that don't know. For you to react with

671
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: lead owners running Tuesday a one year trial of an

672
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Speaker 2: enhanced touchback rule that will give the receiving team the

673
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: ball on its own twenty five with a fair catch

674
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: of a kickoff anywhere behind that yard line. So essentially,

675
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: if you call for a fair catch, you're getting the

676
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Speaker 2: ball to twenty five.

677
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Speaker 1: And that's a no brainer. Yeah, that's a no brainer.

678
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: You avoid how many times do we see block in

679
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: the back holding all those special teams penalties half the

680
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: distance to the goal that back you up. If I

681
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: am guaranteed to start a kick to start my drive

682
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: at the twenty five, let's go, that's a no brainer.

683
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: I would, unless you better be damn sure if you're

684
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: Darius Davis that you're going to get that ball past

685
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: the twenty five and that our special team's unit is

686
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: not going to commit a penalty. If you're not going

687
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 1: to wave that right hand, I don't want it brought

688
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: out of the end zone. I don't want it returned.

689
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 1: Twenty five is incredible field position. Incredible field position. You've

690
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: got so much breathing room now, So to me, to me,

691
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Speaker 1: if you were to pull not special teams coaches, but

692
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Speaker 1: if you were to pull head coaches and say, do

693
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: we even need to kick off? No, you don't just

694
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 1: put the ball to twenty five. You don't even need

695
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Speaker 1: to kick off. You can put the ball at to

696
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: twenty five, and that's where we're going to start our

697
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: drive every single time. It's it's a no brainer.

698
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'd love to pull the special teams coordinators

699
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: around the league to see how this affects strategy and

700
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 2: just kind of how they do business, how they practice. Frankly,

701
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: you know, because this is this is very simple. You

702
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: wait for a fair catch, you get the palled to

703
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: twenty five. It's almost essentially eliminating the kickoff. Like this

704
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: is a one year try this may be it for

705
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Speaker 2: the kickoff.

706
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Speaker 1: And it's, like I said, it's unfortunate that it comes

707
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Speaker 1: a month after the Chargers expended a fourth round pick

708
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: on a returner, then paid a premium for a returner

709
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: because now it's fifty percent of what you drafted him

710
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: for is essentially gone. And look in some games, if

711
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: if you get a couple of kickoffs here and there,

712
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: and you're waving the flag, you know you're waving for

713
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: the fair catch, and you want to catch the defense

714
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: the special teams unit flat footed. Okay, let's go. That

715
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: can be a little flat footed. We fair caught the

716
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: last two. Let's get after it, so what we can do.

717
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: So that's that's part of the strategy as well. But

718
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: at the same time, give me the ball twenty five.

719
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: I got Justin Herbert, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Austin Eckler.

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Speaker 1: Give me the ball at the twenty five. I'm more

721
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 1: than happy to get there.

722
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: Ten places seventy five yard touchdown drive with Justin Herbert Exactly.

723
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: It's too easy.

724
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: The emergency quarterback rule, so this was approved to it.

725
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: It allows teams to play an emergency quarterback from the

726
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: inactive list if the first two are injured during a game.

727
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: So this is interesting too because it doesn't the quarterback

728
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: has to be on the fifty three man roster, but

729
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: it doesn't count towards the actives inactives on game day.

730
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: So essentially it pays to have a third quarterback on

731
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 2: your team if something goes down. So I wonder how

732
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: this will affect fifty three man rosters around the league

733
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Speaker 2: if you know you have this rule in place.

734
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Speaker 1: To me, look, it's a rule that was put in

735
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: place because of a high profile game. If Brock Purty

736
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Speaker 1: goes down in Week sixteen, yeah, it's just one of

737
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: those we can't We can't do what we did in

738
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: an NFC championship game and have Christian McCaffrey back there

739
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,479
Speaker 1: taking snaps or have to shove a guy out there

740
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: with a destroyed shoulder in order to take snaps and

741
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: complete the remainder of the sixty minutes that was still

742
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 1: on the clock. I don't think it'll affect teams carrying

743
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: two or three quarterbacks. I don't get the sense that'll happen.

744
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: To me, it's having the quarterback on the fifty three

745
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: man roster sort of defeats the purpose of it. I

746
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: suppose if you go into the postseason, you would maybe

747
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: do that just to protect yourself. But the idea that

748
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: you're going to get two quarterbacks knocked out of the

749
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 1: same game in able to return is such a long

750
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: long I mean talk about long odds. So this to

751
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: me was just we can't afford to have that happen

752
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game again, and we're going to

753
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: acknowledge let's make sure it doesn't.

754
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: So if you use the charges as an example, though

755
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: essentially Chase Daniel was the primary backup last year, Stick

756
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: was an act of most games. Easton Stick would be

757
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: dressed for games now right, just in case something were

758
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: to happen. He just he'd be dressed, but would not

759
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: count towards the actives. In actives if I read this correctly.

760
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Speaker 1: So an, yeah, Herbert goes out of the game, can't return,

761
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: Chase goes out of the game, can't return. Now you

762
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: can activate that guy. He goes out there to play quarterback.

763
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Speaker 1: So Austin Ekiler isn't taken snaps or Michael Williams isn't

764
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: taking snaps or something along though Derwin James isn't taking

765
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: snaps at quarterback. That's that's all. That's therefore, you know

766
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: the bigger and I know you're gonna get to it, Chris,

767
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: But to me, the so that one is just that's

768
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: the brock Rock party rule. I don't suspect it's going

769
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: to have much impact. The other one, though, was the

770
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: Thursday Night flex. Yeah, you can now flex Thursday night

771
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: game from week thirteen to seventeen, which is it's crazy

772
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: to me.

773
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: Yes, let's get into that, because you know, the kickoff

774
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: thing was this safety related thing. This frankly, I feel

775
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: like it's a safety related thing because teams can now

776
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: be flexed out or flexed into Thursday night games from

777
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: weeks thirteen to seventeen. This affects the Chargers because the

778
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: Chargers play the Raiders inside that window. I can't imagine

779
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: a world and where they would be flexed out because

780
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: it's Chargers Raiders. Yet it's possible, and it has to

781
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: be twenty eight days out, and I don't believe a

782
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: team can be on Thursday Night Football more than twice.

783
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: So the Steelers I think were on three times, so

784
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: they're not even eligible to be flexed into a game

785
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: during that period. But your thoughts on this, this this

786
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: screams to me. Amazon wants it, so we got to

787
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 2: give it to him.

788
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. It's taking care of your partners to

789
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: give you billions and billions of dollars. So for the

790
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: Chargers are playing week fifteen, it's week thirteen through week seventeen.

791
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: So if the Chargers are on Thursday at football, week

792
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: fifteen serves that they're not going to get flexed in

793
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: week fourteen or week sixteen. So you go to week thirteen,

794
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys on Thursday at football. I don't care how bad

795
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: they are. I don't care how bad their opponent is.

796
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys are never being taken off of a primetime game,

797
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. The Amazon is not going to say, hey,

798
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: you know what, let's get rid of that Cowboy game.

799
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: That's not going to happen no matter what the records are.

800
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, they're obviously not going to get flexed

801
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: into week fourteen because they're already playing in Week fifteen.

802
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: That week they've got a home game against Denver. I

803
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: suppose if you want to start flex flex flex because

804
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: it's twenty eight days out, they could say, oh, the

805
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: Raiders have two wins at this point, Let's flex out

806
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: that Charger Raider game from week fifteen. Let's put in

807
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: the Chargers and Broncos, who have tied records right now

808
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: in week fourteen, so that sort of thing could happen

809
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: Week sixteen. They're not getting flexed into there because they've

810
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: got the Peacock game against Buffalo and they're obviously not

811
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: going to at NBC if the Chargers are good. We

812
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: suspect both the Chargers and Bills are going to be good.

813
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: They have no interest in giving up that particular game,

814
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: so that's going to stay where it is. Then you

815
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: go to week seventeen. That's where it gets interesting to me.

816
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: Week seventeen is the one because they could point to, well,

817
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: Chargers got an extra day rest because they played on Saturday,

818
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: so you know, or Buffalo. I look at those two games,

819
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: Patriots at Buffalo, Chargers at Denver. These two teams played

820
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 1: on Saturday, so they've got an extra day of rest

821
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: before we're going to flex them into this Thursday night game.

822
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: It's Chargers at Denver. So that's the one that I

823
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: could see perhaps affecting the Chargers because the league could

824
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: say at least one of these teams has an extra

825
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: day of rest, safety being a concern, all that sort

826
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: of stuff. It'sad the Chargers are the road team. They've

827
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: got Saturday game at home. That gives them that extra

828
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: day to prepare for Thursday night going to Denver. That's

829
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: something I could envision.

830
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, playoff implications if the Broncos are surprising with Sean

831
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 2: Paton and Russell Wilson. You got Joe Lombardies the offensive coordinator.

832
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: You got some different different ties there, right, that could

833
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: be fun Broncos charges. But I don't know. I mean, overall,

834
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: I get it. I understand why they're doing it. The

835
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: Amazon's a new partner. Some of the games that they

836
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: had were brutal, and that's being kind. Last year, do

837
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 2: you remember the Colts Broncos game?

838
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean to me, I just feel like

839
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: they've got a really good schedule this year. The Thursday

840
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: and had schedule is really I mean, the games were

841
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: like if the Chargers Broncos game were to be flexed

842
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: in the week seventeen, it's taken away Jets, Browns Deshaun

843
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: Watson versus Aaron Rodgers and New York team. That's that's

844
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: a good game Week sixteen. Yeah, Week sixteen is the

845
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: one everyone's pointing two Saints at Rams. If the Rams

846
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: are tanking for Caleb Williams and they are in a

847
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,479
Speaker 1: position with three games left at that point and they're

848
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: in a in a horse race a little ding dong

849
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: action with another with Tampa or whomever it may be

850
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: for the number one or the number two pick, then

851
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: that's where I could see, Okay, they're they're throwing in

852
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: the towel. They want Caleb Williams. We can't put this

853
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: in prime time. That's where it could get flex And

854
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: that's the one where I said the Chargers can't get

855
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: flexed into there because they're already on National TV that

856
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: Peacock game for NBC to try to help their streaming

857
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: service against the Bills. So that's that's really the only

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Speaker 1: one that I see being a reality. Everything else looks like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: those those games are going to be played.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the drafts in Green Bay in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: the San Francisco, I guess Santa Clara is getting Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl Super Bowl sixty and the Commanders are on their

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Speaker 2: way to being sold to the Josh Harris Group and

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Speaker 2: Magic Johnson. How about that.

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Speaker 1: There we go. How about that Magic? Another another team down.

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Speaker 1: It's going pretty well for the Dodgers since he took

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Speaker 1: over right Tall Hill, l A.

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Speaker 2: F C, the Sparks. I think Magic has championships with

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Speaker 2: all the teams, you know. Yeah, don't hold your breath.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying exactly all right, guys, that's gonna do

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Speaker 2: it for us. We'll keep you a date, keep you

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Speaker 2: up to date on all things OTAs as we get towards,

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Speaker 2: uh that that mandatory minicamp in June, and then it's

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Speaker 2: gonna get a little slow, but we're keeping our eye

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Speaker 2: on June first and anything that could happen as it

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Speaker 2: relates to the charges roster for money. I'm Chris. This

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Speaker 2: has been Chargers.

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Speaker 1: We