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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is the one that only

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Speaker 1: Wes Hodkowits were coming to you here from our studios

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Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and West. It's Thursday Night football this

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Speaker 1: week Packers and Eagles squaring off at lambeau Field in

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Speaker 1: a couple of days. So we need to take a

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Speaker 1: look at this Philadelphia Eagles team. And the first thing

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Speaker 1: that I see is a one and two record, But

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Speaker 1: when you look at the games, this is a team

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Speaker 1: that very easily could be three and oh, just like

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Speaker 1: Green Bay absolutely in a very uneven statistical breakdown of

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Speaker 1: them if you really look at it. I alluded to

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Speaker 1: this and some of the other content we've done. I mean,

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Speaker 1: when you look at how they're defending the run, but

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Speaker 1: they're giving up the yards against the past. You know,

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and the offense have been kind of beat up,

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Speaker 1: but then he's leading these comebacks to make things interesting. Um,

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Speaker 1: their run game hasn't been what they wanted to be.

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Speaker 1: They've been injured at receiver, but yet they still feel

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Speaker 1: dangerous right there, and Sprowls came back. There's just so

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Speaker 1: many different little sectors of this offense and defense that

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Speaker 1: make them really truly dangerous. And the other thing too,

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Speaker 1: that always stands out to me about these Thursday games

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Speaker 1: this is about is random in terms of what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get of any other time you're going to see

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Speaker 1: on a schedule. Game plans are important, philosophies, momentum is important,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of times, as Tremont Williams and some

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Speaker 1: of these guys said in the locker room, this week

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Speaker 1: comes down who's just a fresher team. That's the battle

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Speaker 1: both of these teams are waging right now with the

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Speaker 1: way they're approaching their practice schedule both last week and

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Speaker 1: into this week. And you know, to some extent there's

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Speaker 1: some randomness to this, but the Packers are trying to

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Speaker 1: you know, they can be the healthier, more productive team

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night. Yeah. Well, the Ells all season long,

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Speaker 1: through these first three games, they've had a hard time

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Speaker 1: getting out of the gates, so to speak. You look

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Speaker 1: at their score by quarters, they've been outscored fifty to

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Speaker 1: twenty three in the first half of games, but they've

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Speaker 1: outscored their opponents to seven in the third quarters. So

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Speaker 1: they've been a team that comes out of the locker

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Speaker 1: room at halftime. I think they've been down in every

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Speaker 1: game at half time. If I'm not mistakes, they've been

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Speaker 1: down in every game, but they come out of the

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Speaker 1: And it was enough to beat Washington in Week one

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Speaker 1: with the big second half comeback. They fell short against

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons and the Detroit Lions, but had opportunities

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Speaker 1: right in the final moments of both of those games

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Speaker 1: with big pass plays from Carson Wentz and the ball

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Speaker 1: slipping through the receiver's hands. And that's why I say

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Speaker 1: this team, this team is so close to being three

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Speaker 1: and oh. And this is where this is where I

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Speaker 1: consider a team dangerous. And I know the Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 1: are banged up on defense, They're dealing with a lot

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Speaker 1: more injuries than even the Packers are. But this is

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Speaker 1: a team that a lot of people predicted would be

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Speaker 1: right in the mix all season long in the NFC

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Speaker 1: playoff picture. They do have a lot of talent on

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Speaker 1: the roster, and they have players obviously who just a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago went through a Super Bowl run

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Speaker 1: when a team like that is is one and two

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Speaker 1: back from. This is a team you gotta watch out for,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And it's funny too you're mentioning

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Speaker 1: those games where they could have been three. No, you

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Speaker 1: could probably argue that the worst game they've had this

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Speaker 1: out of the gates, with how slow they started in

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Speaker 1: the comeback they had to mount. I thought they played

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Speaker 1: Wentz had to go out Josh McCown, who was retired

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Speaker 1: like a month ago. Well he's in that quarterback and

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Speaker 1: interested to hear his thoughts on exactly how they're approaching

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Speaker 1: they've they've given up some yards the last two weeks

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Speaker 1: Now you're gonna see Miles Sanders, You're gonna see Jordan

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Speaker 1: even though they are banged up, the point I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to illustrate his Carson Wentz is enough of a magician.

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Speaker 1: Easy for me to say magician that there's still sometimes

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Speaker 1: Peterson's as creative as they come in terms of offensive

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Speaker 1: he's tough to bring down. I mean this this this

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Speaker 1: but this is just a tough stimmer at quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: really the truest sign of an elite quarterback in this

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Speaker 1: be when I believe he was a first round pick

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Speaker 1: his perspective, you need you need to have guys you're

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia has been able to play these close games the

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Speaker 1: last few weeks when maybe personnel wise, everything wasn't really

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Speaker 1: has been entrenched there for a number of years, incredibly

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Speaker 1: all those things kind of work in their favorite and

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Speaker 1: And yes, that game is a long ways down the road.

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Speaker 1: We're already talking about it too much, but we already

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Speaker 1: Chicago at home, that Minnesota game, Mike, you know what

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Speaker 1: that's always like there. So that's my perspective on things. No,

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Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting take, And certainly with the

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Speaker 1: lot of Packers fans are going to be watching that ballgame. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: that's the one to check out, all right. Well, with that,

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Speaker 1: we'll call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the

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