Speaker 1: Welcome to the Greatest, a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Greatest. I am Megan Gaily, your host,
Speaker 1: joined by my co host and husband c J. Told
Speaker 1: I'm your husband, crodo that. Yeah, I love um like
Speaker 1: newscaster voice, because that's what you wanted to be. That's
Speaker 1: what you thought you were gonna be. Looked in the
Speaker 1: mirror and you went, I'm gonna be this. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're not there. The Colts entering the playoffs not on
Speaker 1: a hot streak. Thank you. And you can hear our
Speaker 1: guest is joining us. She don't want to hold back.
Speaker 1: She's ready to be included in the conversation. It's so
Speaker 1: hard when they're like, just sit here and we're gonna banter,
Speaker 1: but like, we'll bring you in when you're ready. I
Speaker 1: cannot do it, dear friend, hilarious comedian sports writer to
Speaker 1: the Stars has written for Von Miller Okay, has written
Speaker 1: for Gronk, and we know that he does need help
Speaker 1: with writers. And I'm just saying, Von, you could see like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I bet he's bringing some ideas Gronk. Aaron's doing the
Speaker 1: heavy lifting. Aaron Lennox. Hi, guys, welcome to our show.
Speaker 1: Friend it's really a joy. I'm not just a fan
Speaker 1: of you guys as human beings, but a huge fan
Speaker 1: of this podcast. Thank you. Maybe our first fan to
Speaker 1: be on this show? Is that true? It's very embarrasing. No,
Speaker 1: we've had h Yeah, I think Lisa is a fan,
Speaker 1: but she was on before it came out, and Lisa
Speaker 1: just wants to chat, so I think she's just more
Speaker 1: she thought we were just hanging out. No, I genuinely
Speaker 1: love this podcast, and that's not because we are exceptionally
Speaker 1: close friends. Yeah, is it interesting to like be here
Speaker 1: in a studio. It feels it feels silly. It is
Speaker 1: you should be has to like do things when it's
Speaker 1: like smoked five joints together on Monday. It was my first.
Speaker 1: There were five tiny joints. There were five tiny joints,
Speaker 1: but only one was left. It was so good. I
Speaker 1: had the time of my life. C J planned well
Speaker 1: technically was my idea, but c J executed to perfective.
Speaker 1: I mean truly true, like you should be a party point.
Speaker 1: I'll just pouring you through briefly what happened. Um My
Speaker 1: gall pals and I we all met, had a drink
Speaker 1: outside of my house while c J was decorating our
Speaker 1: house so beautifully looking like a freaking crighton barrel, shoot
Speaker 1: a Pinterest board, and hired our dear friend who was
Speaker 1: also a chef, Danny Palumbo and a comedian, very funny,
Speaker 1: very talented. So we got back to the house. C
Speaker 1: J learned how to make the sig Nature cocktail from
Speaker 1: our wedding So Romantic, which he provided for all of
Speaker 1: us upon entering the home. I also thought it was
Speaker 1: called a dirty slut when yeah, there's a difference. They
Speaker 1: had commentary and one of them, yeah, it's just one time.
Speaker 1: It's like how you think of your wife. Are there
Speaker 1: people that think that I could have a drink named
Speaker 1: after me called dirty slut? Absolutely go to West Slafia,
Speaker 1: Indiana and you'll find them all up and down. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna skip going there. Okay, it's actually notoriously smells bad. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and then we had a like six course
Speaker 1: dinner too pasta courses solar provided by c J that
Speaker 1: had very frightening sparklers on. It hurt his hand and
Speaker 1: he injured his hand arms. I was like the happy
Speaker 1: Birthday song that never felt this long until my arm
Speaker 1: was on. We got drunk, We got high, We laughed
Speaker 1: a lot our friends. Was such a time. I think
Speaker 1: we were so busy having fun. Did we even talk shit?
Speaker 1: Of course we did. I don't recall there's I mean
Speaker 1: we never once the show have Aaron tell us about
Speaker 1: yourself a little bit and in general. But you you
Speaker 1: are again one of our friends who, like us, works
Speaker 1: in comedy but also works in sports and and it
Speaker 1: manages to make her career and a lot of sports stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a niche of writing here, but you've managed to. I mean,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't called Miller for like weeks. It was a month. Sexually,
Speaker 1: it was so fun. It was for this Facebook watch
Speaker 1: show and we did d It was eight or eleven
Speaker 1: episodes and I can't remember, but we with Vaughan and
Speaker 1: his brothers, two of whom are not his actual brothers
Speaker 1: but are such great people. If you could say that,
Speaker 1: then yeah you can't. Yeah you can't find his brothers.
Speaker 1: Uh and they it was we had the timberlized. We
Speaker 1: like shot the whole thing in his basement of his
Speaker 1: actual home in Colorado. Yeah. Cool, Um, it was cool.
Speaker 1: It was really and you know they're not actors, but
Speaker 1: they try hard. That's the thing about athletes. They are coachable,
Speaker 1: they want to do well, and the good ones really refreshing.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about how funny just the like I
Speaker 1: wanted to be when I was little. I wanted to
Speaker 1: be an orthopedic surgeon, just because I I remember saying
Speaker 1: this to someone. I was like, I wouldna be an
Speaker 1: orthopoic surgeon so I can run out on the court
Speaker 1: when someone gets hurt. And they're like, that's not an
Speaker 1: orthopedic surgeon. I got my a c L surgery the
Speaker 1: second happen just right there. And then when I found
Speaker 1: out that wasn't what they did, I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: funk that. I'll just write you get to hang out
Speaker 1: with athletes? Yeah, I mean caught me writer. That's we've
Speaker 1: all come into this as backwards. Yeah, I said, CJS
Speaker 1: made fun of what I wanted to be. I wanted
Speaker 1: to be a sideline reporter because I wanted to hang
Speaker 1: out with And then I think people were also like,
Speaker 1: what that They're not in my mind, I just sort
Speaker 1: of like learned it was like it was not a
Speaker 1: level of creativity that I was going to be happy with.
Speaker 1: I mean, some of that's just like you proactively made
Speaker 1: a choice I just like couldn't do the prerecusites first
Speaker 1: was somewhat reasonable. I was like, I'm going to play
Speaker 1: in the NBA. You're going to pay in the NBA.
Speaker 1: I really did play in high school. I really did.
Speaker 1: I did play in high school. Have I told you
Speaker 1: this story where Jason Kidd let me beat him in
Speaker 1: one on one as a child, and then I thought
Speaker 1: I was going to be in the men's NBA. I mean,
Speaker 1: but that's that's the Jason Kidd. He did his job there,
Speaker 1: Jason Kidd alone. We were not alone. It was like
Speaker 1: it was like a summer league game in Oakland. My
Speaker 1: uncle took me and then I got pulled from the
Speaker 1: crowd and like it was like not real one on one.
Speaker 1: It was probably to possessions. It was the scoreboard. I
Speaker 1: thought it was, though I was probably like nine. I
Speaker 1: don't know. He was a rookie. He was Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Year. And then I'm playing against him and I
Speaker 1: I beat him, or at least I like scored and
Speaker 1: he allowed me to. But it was like, well, best
Speaker 1: out of three, she wins or whatever. And I was like,
Speaker 1: holy sh it, how old were you? I think nine?
Speaker 1: He thought you were hot, and then he was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta let her away for sure. I definitely had
Speaker 1: a mullet and like a rat tail. I think that's
Speaker 1: why they let you, like a make a wish kid
Speaker 1: and I'm not this white trash girl out here. We
Speaker 1: will save her from hating minorities. Yes, you know it works.
Speaker 1: Oh I think there's I used to have it, like
Speaker 1: you're from North Carolina. We need to really get this
Speaker 1: in there, rat tail. Any any little white kids rat tails,
Speaker 1: We're gonna have you come down here fight something. I
Speaker 1: don't play against the rookie of the year. The basketball
Speaker 1: camp later that same summer, it was not even the
Speaker 1: best at basketball camp for children. That's how it's that's shocking.
Speaker 1: That'll knock you down. Well, it's funny because I went
Speaker 1: to Michael Jordan's camp two years and I was really
Speaker 1: good mate the All Star team. Not a brag, but
Speaker 1: also went to Michael Jordan camp. What year, nineties nineties seven?
Speaker 1: Because I think you were there at the same time
Speaker 1: as my cousin Hurst, Illinois. Oh, never mind, they have
Speaker 1: they that's the senor Barbarine is the one they went to.
Speaker 1: And this is how we found out that my aunt
Speaker 1: slept with Michael Jordan's Oh yes, I remember you having
Speaker 1: this story. I mean, you can which the aunt that
Speaker 1: I've met, whose house I've been to. We whispers whispering,
Speaker 1: I have you haven't been to her house? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but it's my it's it's my cousin again, whispering around.
Speaker 1: You do have a hot cousin, beautiful, But I have
Speaker 1: one cousin and is, as her own grandmother put it,
Speaker 1: one of the beautiful ones wisely for Michael Jordan. So
Speaker 1: is there anything else to that story? So they went
Speaker 1: to the This is how we found The way we
Speaker 1: found out, though, is so perfect because I didn't realize
Speaker 1: so that this obviously happened like a long time ago,
Speaker 1: and then I didn't know about it. And then we
Speaker 1: my husband and I went to my aunt's house and
Speaker 1: we were staying there, and she has all this Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan and paraphernalia, and it's like signed, signed stuff, and
Speaker 1: it's not even like displayed, like it's like put tucked
Speaker 1: behind his under couch or like it's all framed and signed.
Speaker 1: And then she doesn't have any She did used to
Speaker 1: work for the Kings, but she doesn't have any other
Speaker 1: sports paraphernalia anywhere. But to me, a girl from Chapel
Speaker 1: Hill in North Carolina, this did not seem strange at all.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, of course everyone he's a god
Speaker 1: and everyone has it in their home, not weird at all.
Speaker 1: But Billy was like, why does she have this? This
Speaker 1: is weird? And I was like, I guess so. And
Speaker 1: then we asked my cousin and she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: Mom sucked him. She was like, go to uh made
Speaker 1: us go to camp because my cousin is like very
Speaker 1: good at soccer but not a basketball And she was like,
Speaker 1: Mom made us go to camp. And we cried on
Speaker 1: the way. I didn't want to go and uh and
Speaker 1: they would like hang out with him, like have breakfast
Speaker 1: with it. So she was going to be like let's
Speaker 1: see if yeah, was it college for my cousin? No,
Speaker 1: the sex, like when did it happen? Oh, like college
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's college was your aunt? How did your aunt
Speaker 1: meet Michael Jordan to have sex with him? Oh? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I assumed something to do with the Kings,
Speaker 1: but you never. It wasn't North Carolina. No, this is
Speaker 1: like this is uh, but it wasn't. When her kids
Speaker 1: were at camp, then I think she might have no. No,
Speaker 1: that's that's definitely what's going on sex. Well, the kids
Speaker 1: were at camp. Yeah, oh maga. That's why I couldn't
Speaker 1: put together what you were talking about because I was like, no,
Speaker 1: we're talking of a real time affair. I wish my
Speaker 1: mom Jordan. It's funny to hear c J's like siblings
Speaker 1: talk about him going to Michael Jordan's camp, because they
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, then we just had to go on
Speaker 1: a trip for a week. It's sisters like, how much
Speaker 1: older than you? Nine years? Yeah. So she's just like
Speaker 1: a cool, beautiful woman having to go to Elmhurst, Illinois
Speaker 1: so her brother with asthma can meet Michael Jordan. But
Speaker 1: I loved Michael Jordan, understood it. They understood it. Should
Speaker 1: we all love Michael Jordan's That's like the universal that
Speaker 1: tears us apart, unexcepted. But I fully recognize that other
Speaker 1: people to do. Is this like, so Billy is a
Speaker 1: Duke fan of I'm a Carolina fan? Is that what
Speaker 1: this is like for you guys? No, because I definitely,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the thing that c J and
Speaker 1: I fight sports twise about is I'm obviously some would
Speaker 1: say delusionally obsessed with my hometown teams, like I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a homer like every I'll support them through thick and thin,
Speaker 1: and c J is a front runner. Oh I am too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that is I like talents, So that's a difficult
Speaker 1: thing for us. And then well did you did you
Speaker 1: have a pro team? But I was like, that's not well.
Speaker 1: So I was born in Marshalltown to Iowa. This is
Speaker 1: what I do about protimity. It was Marshalltown, Iowa. W
Speaker 1: G N Bowls games were on what your state? It's
Speaker 1: not my state, but what what NBA team is in Iowa? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but then you know that's what I'm thinking. So that's
Speaker 1: why I get to pick. I feel like I pick
Speaker 1: any team who has like my favorite current Carolina former
Speaker 1: Carolina player. That's understanding. I just like pick connection. He
Speaker 1: doesn't even really have a connection. I just like the
Speaker 1: teams that are well, this is what Billy always says about.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how we didn't like we've had almost like
Speaker 1: Mary Gending fights over Duke Carolina basketball coach. Oh, I
Speaker 1: can because it takes me back to middle school when
Speaker 1: you when it was so real, like it was it
Speaker 1: was not like you can understand that the other side
Speaker 1: is also good people, and it was like, no, I
Speaker 1: want them to die. I actually think the childhood is
Speaker 1: like why those things become so intense because in Indiana's
Speaker 1: a you perdue and then like that that's just the rivalry.
Speaker 1: I name, Butler is good too, but like I, you produce,
Speaker 1: like people hate each other and they cry. But no
Speaker 1: one in my family went to I. You were produced.
Speaker 1: We worked from Indiana, and so like Perdue, I'm happy
Speaker 1: when they beat I you it like really makes me laugh.
Speaker 1: But if they lose, I E whatever, I move on.
Speaker 1: I've definitely grown up from it because also like I
Speaker 1: was a Carolina fan born number of but then the
Speaker 1: high school that I went to was all everyone worked
Speaker 1: at DO. Everyone's parents worked at Duke, everyone went to DO.
Speaker 1: It was like a feeder school for Duke. So I've
Speaker 1: since been like, you know, Cameron is like the best
Speaker 1: place to see a basketball game on Earth. I'd like
Speaker 1: to go some day, and you just kind of almost
Speaker 1: have to like look at it maturely. Is like we're
Speaker 1: lucky that we got to have both of these powerhouses.
Speaker 1: Coach K's daughter was on my basketball team. Wow did
Speaker 1: take my place. I remember in grade school growing up,
Speaker 1: they were like asking me my favorite color, and I
Speaker 1: said Carolina blue. And they're like that, but that's not
Speaker 1: like what it's called. It's called God didn't love Carolina.
Speaker 1: Why did he make the sky Carolina blue? I said
Speaker 1: something I said as a child. You're quoting a movie there. No,
Speaker 1: that's like things kids said from where I'm from. It
Speaker 1: was like our way of being like fuck you, Carolina
Speaker 1: is better. So it's a beautiful color. I think Duke's
Speaker 1: blue is a beautiful color too. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: it being associated with the devil is tough, but I
Speaker 1: do think the color, I mean, it's Dodger blue is blue.
Speaker 1: It's it's a great royal but it's also just classic
Speaker 1: um rich rich v poor you know the yeah, the
Speaker 1: and and also Carolina used to be like Dean Smith
Speaker 1: and stuff. It was like super progressive. It was like
Speaker 1: all about sort of you know this like progressive voice
Speaker 1: in the South. And then do because like what's point,
Speaker 1: you know, the opposite of range Rover. Duke is rich,
Speaker 1: they aren't. Hair hasn't moved in decades. Two of my
Speaker 1: uncle's went to Duke and I went and I don't
Speaker 1: love it. No, I'm gonna get to it. I went
Speaker 1: on like a trip to the look at it. I
Speaker 1: went to so many schools. I had not a trance
Speaker 1: and Hill get me too. But I'm like I looked
Speaker 1: at it, you know, It's like I looked my eyes
Speaker 1: glanced at it. So we went to Duke because my
Speaker 1: husband was not my husband. My my uncle was getting
Speaker 1: married to the time. I got the flu at Duke
Speaker 1: and puked all over the student center and they still
Speaker 1: wanted to be like look around, and my uncle just
Speaker 1: like lanced around the quad and he goes, you don't
Speaker 1: want to go here, It's a beautiful campus. I don't
Speaker 1: think he loved. No, he had a great time there.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. Organizationally, sometimes you look back, there's
Speaker 1: things that I'm angry with that perdue. And there's also
Speaker 1: these places where you're like you are you were asking
Speaker 1: me for money, So I'm allowed to pass judgment on,
Speaker 1: you know, like if I am now the piggy bank
Speaker 1: for how many ellipticals are in the new workout place, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can be pissed that you're having shitty people come
Speaker 1: and speak. That's the only thing I don't have beef
Speaker 1: with about Carolina is they have great athletic facilities, even
Speaker 1: for students, like not even just for athletes. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure their tuition is not one thousand dollars a year. No,
Speaker 1: it's extremely It was like three grand went in state
Speaker 1: and I had written board scholarship. But alright, for oh
Speaker 1: for it started as merit and that there was fuel
Speaker 1: talking first, But we don't want to talk about my
Speaker 1: careers and you've already talked about who your relatives had
Speaker 1: had sex with. But I feel like we should get
Speaker 1: into our topic today. We've been saving this one for
Speaker 1: you for me. Yeah, this topic, I'm so excited about it.
Speaker 1: So today's topic is greatest athletes to our moms. Hell yeah, maybe,
Speaker 1: which is so many and it may seem like niche,
Speaker 1: but it's a real I think it's something that has
Speaker 1: sort of started to be celebrated more recently, especially when
Speaker 1: you go to look this up. I did have a
Speaker 1: hard time, and maybe some of that is like when
Speaker 1: women would become moms back in the day, Uh, they
Speaker 1: would they would stop competing. Well, yeah, I guess, and
Speaker 1: it's like maybe you wouldn't even someone didn't even reach
Speaker 1: their full potential. Yeah, and I may not have that right,
Speaker 1: they're they're very well could be. I don't know if,
Speaker 1: like Chris Everett had a baby and then kept playing,
Speaker 1: I don't truly know, but they don't pop up when
Speaker 1: you're like really getting into It seems like more of
Speaker 1: like a modern phenomenon that women are able to give
Speaker 1: birth and then continue to have professional athletic careers or
Speaker 1: just professions in general life, working is crazy. What do
Speaker 1: I talked to our own friends have been pregnant. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm having trouble getting out for my pregnancy, Like what
Speaker 1: is going on? I worked, I was working while in labor,
Speaker 1: like emailing back of the Because I'm freelance. You can't
Speaker 1: tell people I mean going to have a kid because
Speaker 1: I don't want them to not give me jobs. It's
Speaker 1: similar to athletes. It's like, okay, if you stopped playing,
Speaker 1: then you don't make any money. Yeah, and obviously in
Speaker 1: like this country have we have a very fucked up
Speaker 1: like post birth health systems and post birth work balance
Speaker 1: for I think a mother and the father. I think
Speaker 1: it's great that men get paternity leave now. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's sort of something that like we think about a
Speaker 1: lot and has started to be celebrated. And I do
Speaker 1: think some of that is just because there's really giant
Speaker 1: success stories. Um, and that's who we're going to be
Speaker 1: celebrating today. So Aaron, if you want to lead us
Speaker 1: off with your first pick? Wow, okay, so first pick
Speaker 1: is that my number one? We go like, okay, so
Speaker 1: one or whatever you have, I'm gonna start controversial. Okay,
Speaker 1: were like fun that mom, so as you're talking about
Speaker 1: like back in the day, it's just a guy like
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, m the So I just started by just
Speaker 1: being like, who are my all time favorite athletes? And
Speaker 1: then do they have kids? I think that's a great
Speaker 1: way to go back. And uh, my number one all
Speaker 1: time favorite athlete is Marion Jones Big Carolina. I love
Speaker 1: her so much. I know that that we've got some
Speaker 1: drug history is questionable, but I also I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: also just like, you know what lived your life? Honey?
Speaker 1: She won so much. It was like I feel like
Speaker 1: it was also she's like the perfect amount older than
Speaker 1: me that I that I was like, this is a
Speaker 1: living god. And then she was like on Carolina campus.
Speaker 1: So I saw her and I would you know, we're
Speaker 1: growing up and I would like be like that is
Speaker 1: an inhuman human and she's just like walking among us,
Speaker 1: like nineties track athletes and like two kids. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: they're only know like three names in track and field.
Speaker 1: It was like Mary and Jones, Jackie Um, Carl Lewis
Speaker 1: and maybe that's it, and so like, yeah, for these
Speaker 1: people to be known for just running, um, not just running.
Speaker 1: She was what is it four Olympic that's got stuck
Speaker 1: from her. I can't remember what it is exactly. They
Speaker 1: ended up getting taken away. But she also played in
Speaker 1: the w n B A. She's she's like the the greatest.
Speaker 1: She won three gold medals and two bronze medals just
Speaker 1: at the Sydney Games. That's the one that we're all stripped.
Speaker 1: She very I mean, it's tough because this is in
Speaker 1: the first paragraph of her Wikipedia. Yeah, where's her thirty
Speaker 1: for thirty because like I would look because I remember
Speaker 1: as a kid being like she got a bad deal,
Speaker 1: Like they aren't telling the full story. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know she took but she was kind of it was
Speaker 1: a famous person named in that belt yost and and
Speaker 1: so then you sort of become the poster child for
Speaker 1: and it was like also it was like that tinya
Speaker 1: harding issue where it was like it was back ass
Speaker 1: into it, like her boyfriend got he got her her first,
Speaker 1: I think for the drugs. First her ex husband, her
Speaker 1: ex husband, and then her the boyfriend. After that it
Speaker 1: was the same. It was all the same coach, it
Speaker 1: was all the same, and it was like this drug
Speaker 1: that wasn't like being tested for yet. So it's also like,
Speaker 1: well it wasn't even on the list, and that's what
Speaker 1: I hate, you know, it's just like the it's pressure
Speaker 1: from other people. It's not knowing. Oh yeah, this is
Speaker 1: like supplements, supplements exactly be injected. But okay, do you
Speaker 1: know when you're shooting something, picture that going into a
Speaker 1: stall and and like you popping up hill. Yeah, then
Speaker 1: then absolutely you don't know what you're doing. But if
Speaker 1: you're shooting it into your body, you probably you know.
Speaker 1: That's see, that's that's why I wont because that's what
Speaker 1: her ex husband testified, and it's like he had reason
Speaker 1: at that point to be talking ship. So yeah, all
Speaker 1: of her she admitted to it later, had been vacated.
Speaker 1: She did retain three World championships, but My thing is
Speaker 1: I don't think she needed it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like they say that's about like the a lot of
Speaker 1: the baseball players that got you know, it's like probably
Speaker 1: would have been home run champs without the whatever those phrases.
Speaker 1: Did this happen after she had the child before? But
Speaker 1: I think that because that's understanding. And listen, a lot
Speaker 1: of there's some there is a plastic surgery thing called
Speaker 1: the mommy makeover now, you know, like housewives are trying
Speaker 1: to be in Valco. Yeah. No, it's like now it's
Speaker 1: like we all want human growth hormone, we all want
Speaker 1: to paint it up. Yeah, there's a I feel like
Speaker 1: there has been talk because and I don't know when
Speaker 1: this will come out, so I don't know how this
Speaker 1: will shake out. But the wave of wanting the Astros
Speaker 1: World Series vacated gained momentum. But it's like, why are
Speaker 1: you taking away her meal? And I think people's argument
Speaker 1: for not taking it away is, Okay, well then you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to go back and look at all the
Speaker 1: teams that one during the steroid like abuse firestorm, and
Speaker 1: then are you going to vacate those? Like it's it's
Speaker 1: a really complicated thing when you're talking about Hall of Fame, like,
Speaker 1: well she go in the Track and Field Hall of Fame. Well,
Speaker 1: she she's obviously going to be part of like the
Speaker 1: North Caroline bo Jackson in terms of like just one
Speaker 1: of the greatest living athletes, and just she just didn't
Speaker 1: need it and like it's too I think she would
Speaker 1: have won without it, Like it's she was a beast
Speaker 1: from beginning to end and there was no I mean
Speaker 1: to me, I'm like, she's the champion forever. Well, she
Speaker 1: didn't even need the drugs. She would have dominated, but
Speaker 1: she dominated by so much that she didn't need it.
Speaker 1: I mean that controversy happened what in the early two thousands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like and there's a story here and Megan
Speaker 1: just mentioned it, but she was in two she played
Speaker 1: for the Tulsa Shock and she was that's after her son.
Speaker 1: Her son's born two three, which is like when the
Speaker 1: controversy and the thing is like if that happened to me,
Speaker 1: if I got caught doing drugs and like I'm out,
Speaker 1: I'm probably just not gonna do this anymore. But to
Speaker 1: then try to resurface and you're having to yourself so Curtiss.
Speaker 1: That's how good she is. She can play in in
Speaker 1: the w n b A. It's like as an old rookie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's incredible. And I suppose she even play in college.
Speaker 1: Like I always think the same. Being olympian probably lines
Speaker 1: up the best with being a mother too, because you're
Speaker 1: you're competing every four year. You know, you're obviously training
Speaker 1: and then you have the World champions World Championships every year,
Speaker 1: but your major major event is every four years. Time
Speaker 1: it like we think about that a lot. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure most people do when they're having a baby.
Speaker 1: Like I got a time it between winter with my
Speaker 1: sister in law as a teacher, and so she's like,
Speaker 1: I have to time it. I want to time it's
Speaker 1: like sew summer so then I can take And so
Speaker 1: like an olympian would that would that would be better
Speaker 1: for female athletes. I'm gonna read this one sentence from
Speaker 1: this article just it's just so heavy. She returns to
Speaker 1: the game as a mother of three, including a daughter
Speaker 1: born less than a year ago and a former inmate
Speaker 1: of a federal prison. Jones served as six months sentence
Speaker 1: after pleading guilty to perjury in two thousand seven for
Speaker 1: lying about her drug use and her role in a
Speaker 1: check fraud scheme. Not to I'm not trying to. But
Speaker 1: it's just like whatever she does, she does well. I mean,
Speaker 1: her injury is tough, But have I lied about my
Speaker 1: drug use? Don't tell me on the stand. That's a
Speaker 1: great pick. I like those picks more when Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: just so much to talk about, so much to talking about,
Speaker 1: so much. She's overcame and not letting it stop her
Speaker 1: competitive drive and being a mother. Obviously, I love her
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, okay, um, you want me to go next?
Speaker 1: I would like to go next. I think the women
Speaker 1: should get to first. A little silly, um, Okay, so
Speaker 1: my first pick perhaps maybe a lesser known UM athlete.
Speaker 1: Her name is Jessica McDonald. She is the only mom
Speaker 1: that is on the US women's national team, that incredible team.
Speaker 1: She is the only the only mom. Yeah, you kindly
Speaker 1: gonna give it up for the team to feel like
Speaker 1: no kids up in here. Yeah it could be many
Speaker 1: different facts, um, but yeah. She has a seven year
Speaker 1: old son named Jeremiah. She also plays for the North
Speaker 1: Carolina Courage. There we go. So she's a professional soccer
Speaker 1: player and then plays for the national team. That is
Speaker 1: like obviously incredibly decorated. But at some point in her
Speaker 1: career she almost had to retire because her soccer salary
Speaker 1: was so low it was almost impossible for her to
Speaker 1: raise a child on it um and during the off
Speaker 1: season she was working a nine to five job. Wow,
Speaker 1: playing professional soccer working nine to five job, because say,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. So it's like, Okay, when you become
Speaker 1: a mom, I hate it. It's like the things they
Speaker 1: say about you know, your time management is so uh
Speaker 1: it becomes such a bigger factor, like you have to
Speaker 1: there's a full time It is a full time gig
Speaker 1: in terms of how much you have paid to spend
Speaker 1: time with the child so that they're not you know,
Speaker 1: become a shooter or something like you have to be there.
Speaker 1: It's also extremely expensive um time money and ideally a
Speaker 1: partner to be able to do it. They don't have
Speaker 1: to train. On top of you have a full time job,
Speaker 1: than training is a full time job, than having you
Speaker 1: kids a full time job. It's like how do you
Speaker 1: how could you possibly fit in? She talks a lot
Speaker 1: about like the community helping her, and I'm assuming that's
Speaker 1: the community she lives in, and then also the soccer community.
Speaker 1: It does not see it seems like she's a single
Speaker 1: mom who is doing it on our own, which makes
Speaker 1: the story so much more beautiful. Her son now kind
Speaker 1: of accompanies her to all of these major things. After
Speaker 1: the win, he joined her on the field, He was
Speaker 1: on the float with them during the ticker tape parade,
Speaker 1: and he went to the SPS with her. So this
Speaker 1: sweet boy that she has like fought so hard to
Speaker 1: still be able to even have a career is now
Speaker 1: getting to celebrate all the beautiful things that came with
Speaker 1: that career with Just imagine what he's learning to like
Speaker 1: watch because he's got he sees her work that hard,
Speaker 1: and then he gets to go experience the fruit of
Speaker 1: that labor, which is like insane, you know, like I
Speaker 1: watched my dad work really hard. But then it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, to just what have a truck? Like who cares? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were never in a ticker tape exactly like for
Speaker 1: the vacation. A truck is a lot of down payments.
Speaker 1: I think it's so like beautiful for this young boy
Speaker 1: to be raised around this community of really really straw
Speaker 1: I mean, like the most famous badass women in the
Speaker 1: world athletically right now and he is, so he's most
Speaker 1: likely going to turn out to be an incredibly kind, empathetic,
Speaker 1: wonderful man. I can't wait to report back on the
Speaker 1: story in twenty years. Let's like, well, I'll only report
Speaker 1: back if it's positive, you know, like if I bring
Speaker 1: like a nice news story and then people are like,
Speaker 1: what happened, I'm like, I don't know. It means I know,
Speaker 1: and it's not good, But I think Jeremiah is going
Speaker 1: to be Um. That's an amazing story and I hope also, like, financially,
Speaker 1: this is kind of what the soccer team is fighting for,
Speaker 1: at least the US women's soccer team fighting for equal
Speaker 1: pay to the men, so then this woman doesn't have
Speaker 1: to worry about trying to raise her child. It's also like,
Speaker 1: it's not that much money to be celebrate these people
Speaker 1: that like to not have a full time job, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean when you have a full time job,
Speaker 1: but that's playing soccer. That is a job. It's insane
Speaker 1: to be like to not just be like how much
Speaker 1: money do you need to survive? And the sad thing
Speaker 1: is too for this success story. That's like so beautiful
Speaker 1: and feel good and wonderful. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: not even failures, but there are a lot of athletes,
Speaker 1: men and women that have had to quit playing because
Speaker 1: they're not able to support their family. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: like a real thing that time. I was going to
Speaker 1: say a hard knock you Like, see these families that
Speaker 1: move five different times and then they get caught and
Speaker 1: then on the practice squad and you're like, okay, but
Speaker 1: they're in the NFL, and it's like, yeah, but this
Speaker 1: is a family of five that they're trying to support
Speaker 1: on a practice squad and this is their dream. And
Speaker 1: so many people are having to make sacrifices when you're
Speaker 1: a parent and trying to pursue a dream in any industry.
Speaker 1: And then, but do you want your kids to see that?
Speaker 1: Like you want them to know that, Like it's I
Speaker 1: think you want them to know that it's going to
Speaker 1: be hard, you know what I mean, just because of
Speaker 1: course you get into the do you remember the first
Speaker 1: time like that as a young adult that you were like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: this is hard, And like if you don't have that
Speaker 1: experience very young, you can't get through it. You know,
Speaker 1: you you'll crumble under that, and then there's the pressure
Speaker 1: for these athletes that did grow up with it being
Speaker 1: hard even for them at a young age. It just
Speaker 1: came from families that were struggling financially or whatever it was.
Speaker 1: And then they're so rich and then they have these
Speaker 1: kids and there is to instill like, yeah, but life's
Speaker 1: like you were born with all these privileges and and
Speaker 1: there's a mom I'll talk about later and she's like,
Speaker 1: my daughter gets travel all these amazing places. And then
Speaker 1: you also have to make sure they're a good person,
Speaker 1: like their challenges, like my kids growing up in l A.
Speaker 1: Just the difference between like my stuff has been to
Speaker 1: Universal studios, like fifteen times I would have killed a person,
Speaker 1: you know, and he doesn't. He's get the lines are
Speaker 1: too long, like the and he's right. But it's like
Speaker 1: the growing up here just that alone, even like little class,
Speaker 1: like it's you get to do so much cool ship
Speaker 1: and you go see where it's like he gets to
Speaker 1: meet like people, you know, our friends who are making
Speaker 1: the cartoons he loves, and he's like, oh, that's a
Speaker 1: job you can have, which I did not know until
Speaker 1: I was in my twenties. Right, it's almost not safe.
Speaker 1: It's not okay to let them know that there's those
Speaker 1: jobs exciting. You can't grow up and make a living
Speaker 1: doing memes, okay, but you can't. You can, for uncle,
Speaker 1: if I heard of that, be like what, I drop
Speaker 1: out in sixth grade because what say they want to
Speaker 1: They all want to be like YouTube. Fe're like, okay,
Speaker 1: well get a huk alright, we'll help you, okay, CJ.
Speaker 1: Who's your first pack? Um? So I to be completely honest,
Speaker 1: I had to do a lot of research for this
Speaker 1: and fine, and I knew just not. I can't just
Speaker 1: say like my favorite w NBA player and like our
Speaker 1: they mom, okay, cool, that's like, um, but there are
Speaker 1: a couple of a lot of them are a lot
Speaker 1: of them are, and so like, I ended up finding
Speaker 1: a lot of cool stories and one mom and I
Speaker 1: found was a pro surfer named Bethany Hamilton's this so
Speaker 1: she had one. She had her arm when she was
Speaker 1: thirteen while surfing. She had her arm bit off by
Speaker 1: a shark. Um so it was already you know, I
Speaker 1: think she may have been a proster for then or
Speaker 1: on her way to be one. So the fact that
Speaker 1: she lost her arm and then had to recover from
Speaker 1: that and then continue her career and then ended up
Speaker 1: having a kid a few years later, and I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's got three now. But she has been documented saying
Speaker 1: that just being a mother, you know, she had to
Speaker 1: learn how to be a pro surfer still uh, just
Speaker 1: one arm, but then to figure out how to be
Speaker 1: a mom and continue to be a pro surfer with
Speaker 1: one arm is just like again we talked about time
Speaker 1: management and just figuring out how to do things like
Speaker 1: just like I can't even imagine wanting to keep surfing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't even go in a pool. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't go in a hot yup. It's just it's a
Speaker 1: level of it's just like you when you hear about
Speaker 1: someone like her, You're like, oh, people have different control
Speaker 1: over their brains because I would be too scared. And
Speaker 1: she's just like, no, I'm gonna go do this, and
Speaker 1: she went out like immediately, well and then I I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess it's a question for you, Aaron, when you
Speaker 1: became a parent, and it's like does the time management
Speaker 1: People are like, oh, you don't have that much time,
Speaker 1: but now you're like, no, I'm going to accomplish these
Speaker 1: things in more of a short window, like I have
Speaker 1: from three to five and then it has to be
Speaker 1: done then and I don't be distracted. Yeah, but there
Speaker 1: are days when I don't get it done and I'll
Speaker 1: beat myself up about it like that or you're like
Speaker 1: I have or you know, or I paid someone to
Speaker 1: watch him and then I don't get the thing done,
Speaker 1: and that is that's devastating, But it's also like then
Speaker 1: you got to be like, Okay, what did I learn
Speaker 1: from that? Next time? I don't dick around on Instagram
Speaker 1: before I start, like, I don't have that lux right,
Speaker 1: we like only dick around. I know when I go
Speaker 1: and when I tell Megan, I'm like, I'm gonna go, right.
Speaker 1: I definitely watch fourteen YouTube videos before writing the one sentence,
Speaker 1: and I think that that's part that for me. I
Speaker 1: know that's that's part of the process. I understand that's annoying,
Speaker 1: but like you do, you need to like zone your
Speaker 1: brain out for a second so you can like get
Speaker 1: into your like okay and find the real tunnel you
Speaker 1: want to go into. But and if you don't have that,
Speaker 1: how do you drop in faster? Is? Uh? You know,
Speaker 1: it'll make you it can make maybe for her or whatever,
Speaker 1: it can make you achieve faster. You have the luxury
Speaker 1: of not having her arm bitten off to realize. But
Speaker 1: I think about this, it's like she had that happened
Speaker 1: at thirteen. So it's not like, um, god, who's the
Speaker 1: football players? When the great thin that's his brother Shaquill,
Speaker 1: So he like an incredible story, but he was four,
Speaker 1: so he grew up learning how to do things like that.
Speaker 1: It's like she was thirteen and had learned how to
Speaker 1: live a life, which is probably like prime surfing, you know,
Speaker 1: one of those sports where it's like you're a young girl, perfect,
Speaker 1: get in there, ten will discard you. Also like, does
Speaker 1: this shark know how mad we're at at? Well? So
Speaker 1: does he know the shark? Like that? If you google
Speaker 1: her the you know, like those Google questions come up,
Speaker 1: it says did they find the shark like they did?
Speaker 1: Like Bethany, they killed the shark right away? Had a
Speaker 1: freaking oh my god. All right, Well on that note,
Speaker 1: and they're being canceled for something I didn't know was possible.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break and we'll be back with
Speaker 1: more picks from Aaron and ourselves. I think I'm white trash.
Speaker 1: Like I think I'm white trash. That's I think you
Speaker 1: can say it. We're back, we're having well, we're having
Speaker 1: I think we're having a very interesting white trash conversation.
Speaker 1: I identify as white trash. I identify sometimes it is
Speaker 1: a hillbilly, you know, like there's stuff that I like
Speaker 1: that is like hillbilly esque. Well, my my husband has
Speaker 1: a great joke about that. It's like, if you meet
Speaker 1: an actual hillbilly, you have sucked up because you're on
Speaker 1: their property. Like, oh yeah, when they're not out in
Speaker 1: the wild. When we drive like south in Indiana and
Speaker 1: you get down by the border, it's just like children
Speaker 1: with no shoes on four wheelers on the highway and
Speaker 1: it sounds fun. Where are four wheelers? That's just four wheelers,
Speaker 1: no shoes on, no shirt on, jeans and a diaper,
Speaker 1: you know that. Look the four wheelers classical flipped three. Okay, Aaron,
Speaker 1: you want to give us your next pick? All right?
Speaker 1: This is um Is this my number one? Yeah? Whatever
Speaker 1: you want. Okay, I'm gonna go with my number one
Speaker 1: just because I'm ready to talk about it. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: My number one is Candice Park and that was one
Speaker 1: of mine too, so will be great. She is well
Speaker 1: obviously first woman to dunk in a college game. Not
Speaker 1: I mean Lisa Leslie was the first one, but the
Speaker 1: I've always been a fan. I don't think I even
Speaker 1: realized until I was like looking this up that she
Speaker 1: one m v P seven weeks. She came back seven
Speaker 1: weeks after having her child and then one m v
Speaker 1: P and that is one rookie of the year, And
Speaker 1: that's more like person of the Year should be. She
Speaker 1: should be like unbelievable because I was like, you're you're like,
Speaker 1: I mean, not to be crasped, but like you're pissing yourself,
Speaker 1: like you know, like just running, you're gonna just pee
Speaker 1: all over you. Like it's that quickly. Afterwards, it's like
Speaker 1: been wrecked. Yeah, but also it's like if you're an
Speaker 1: incredible athlete, maybe your body heals faster. And that's why
Speaker 1: she's one of the greatest. Now, I just want to
Speaker 1: make sure she wanted to come back right clearly. I
Speaker 1: would just like maybe I'm saying I'm learning so much
Speaker 1: about work laws and I'm like, man, people will force
Speaker 1: you back to work, but these are these are like
Speaker 1: Candice Parker's free lance. She's an independent contractor. She is
Speaker 1: not being forced back by the w n B. A yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: she's not just making obligated just as you know, if
Speaker 1: I were to give birth and come back to the Greatest,
Speaker 1: that would be my decision. I don't. We're still doing this.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of episodes. I know, I'll be
Speaker 1: listen bring me a zoom in the delivery room for
Speaker 1: you guys to bring me a zoom. I'm just almost
Speaker 1: dropping potency pells into all of your teas, just waiting
Speaker 1: for you. Well, I still have my I U t in.
Speaker 1: I know, I sneak up there and I rip it
Speaker 1: out since I get Oh my gosh, people were mad
Speaker 1: at in our ratings and reviews because we have too
Speaker 1: many ancdotes. Now we're talking about your people got to
Speaker 1: know and I really love it. It's funny because people
Speaker 1: ask me about like my They're like, do you like it?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, so I like it. If you're
Speaker 1: on the fence about when I got a Marina, I
Speaker 1: haven't had my period in two years. It's awesome. More
Speaker 1: about Candice Parker, I had to I had to check
Speaker 1: up because she's now hosting. She's a big face on
Speaker 1: Turner and like TNT NBA coverage and it's like where
Speaker 1: she's amazing. She's like Dwyane Wade check doing it. Yeah
Speaker 1: she I didn't want to say that she is, but
Speaker 1: just like guys the NBA players will will take that
Speaker 1: job after their career, but she's doing it. She's still playing.
Speaker 1: She's still very much one of the best players in
Speaker 1: the league and is doing it as her second job.
Speaker 1: That's her. It's great. Well, I mean I just worked
Speaker 1: on the show where it was like Gronkowski and Venus
Speaker 1: Williams and Venus is still playing. Yeah, Gronk isn't. And
Speaker 1: it's like she's doing that. She's doing it was like
Speaker 1: double there for grown ups and they're doing these crazy challenges.
Speaker 1: She's still like competing at an insane level. And the
Speaker 1: training in the morning and then coming in and shooting
Speaker 1: a show, and it's like when I shoot a show,
Speaker 1: I don't do anything for weeks before or after. It's
Speaker 1: incredible what people are capable of and what I don't do.
Speaker 1: I still don't push myself to It also seems like
Speaker 1: candidate So Candice has a daughter, and this is who
Speaker 1: I was referencing earlier like her daughter has just gotten
Speaker 1: to do so many special things because Candice is also
Speaker 1: a very very decorated Olympian, so she's traveled to all
Speaker 1: these places. Like she said, her daughter will be like
Speaker 1: remember when we were in Dubai. And I just love that.
Speaker 1: I think it's so sweet that she's like this badass
Speaker 1: woman has provided that for her daughter. That is so cool.
Speaker 1: Who she even? I love that I don't know who
Speaker 1: she's married to. I love it young Sheldon she's married.
Speaker 1: They haven't gotten to the episode. I also was going
Speaker 1: to say when I started, like when I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look up who my favorite my favorite thing is,
Speaker 1: Like that's the kind of mom I want to be.
Speaker 1: Where they're like does she have a kid? Like like
Speaker 1: I like that you're that you can like you have
Speaker 1: to look up if someone has I think that's a
Speaker 1: cool way to be a mom. Not just that not
Speaker 1: that you shouldn't give your children everything, but I just
Speaker 1: mean that that's not doesn't need to define you. You
Speaker 1: have other that's a new phenomena. And that also like
Speaker 1: done to put pressure on people. It's like you can
Speaker 1: there's some people that that that they love that being
Speaker 1: their identity, you know, like their Instagram is like, mom,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about, wife of so and so.
Speaker 1: If that's your bio, look inside. What are you doing?
Speaker 1: People's bios people's bios and it's not an identity. People's
Speaker 1: bios are tough. Everyone needs to do a third draft
Speaker 1: on their byline is not trying to be a dick,
Speaker 1: which is always true. And I think Mine says my
Speaker 1: album mine has like promotional things, but used to be
Speaker 1: like indie Chicago, New York, l a nachos or something.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know why your mine is my album? Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what, fuck me. I'm a loser. And you
Speaker 1: know about to Kiss Conan is your cover photo. But
Speaker 1: I like Conan to see. I support these because these
Speaker 1: are all about you, Megan, Thank you, thank you, And
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. You should have things that are
Speaker 1: like this is what I'm doing. Um. Candice is incredible.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Sheldon Williams played a duke. I do
Speaker 1: know who he is. You blocked him out and I
Speaker 1: just read a story too. It's a bumber. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they got divorced and she had to pay him four
Speaker 1: dollars hell. Yeah, No, that's so dope because I means
Speaker 1: she was making all the money. Yeah, that's very I
Speaker 1: wonder what he did, like, is he did he take
Speaker 1: a lump payout? Did he like, Mr Mom, did you
Speaker 1: buy a condo? No? I think it's just alimony. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, was he because it's like, what
Speaker 1: was he not making anything? Yeah? But even if they're
Speaker 1: making something, alimony is still you know, I know, but
Speaker 1: it does it was like you know, um, it's waited
Speaker 1: by like what the lifestyle you're used to, and then
Speaker 1: like it's crazy how much I know about this but
Speaker 1: things I've never want to young Sheldon is not paying
Speaker 1: and California is a fault yeah state where they just
Speaker 1: split that ship. So that's how Um No, but if
Speaker 1: my husband came for me, I would destroy you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like he wouldn't because he knows that
Speaker 1: I he's seen me in court and he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to go. He doesn't want to the same sentiment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's more like you could have it. It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think this is a similar scenario
Speaker 1: where it's like if you guys ever split up, CJ
Speaker 1: would be under a bed with his table between his
Speaker 1: like like you would be you would destroy him, Kevin McAllister,
Speaker 1: he's going to get the you don't get freeing up,
Speaker 1: he'll get a worse deal. I mean, divorce on this
Speaker 1: podcast too much. Welcome to the Greatest Divorces. Um, I
Speaker 1: guess I mean there's some athlete divorces where the the
Speaker 1: spouse has then gone on to like create things to spite,
Speaker 1: like she created basketball. Why yes, I love that. Okay,
Speaker 1: sorry we got off topic. Um, okay, so we I
Speaker 1: have Candice Parker as well. I think she's just she
Speaker 1: is someone that has continued to excel posts yes, trial
Speaker 1: and so that is why I mean not even number one.
Speaker 1: She went from Rookie the Year to m v P.
Speaker 1: Like that's an upgrade. Yeah, I think she might have
Speaker 1: an MVP and Rookie of the Year, but I agree
Speaker 1: that it's an insane achievement. She'll probably end up being
Speaker 1: like on the Mount rushmore of like l A athletes
Speaker 1: like I can, yes, along with Lisa Leslie who's also
Speaker 1: on my Okay, alright, I didn't want to say her though,
Speaker 1: because I feel like Candice is like because I put
Speaker 1: it as above, because she came back after and had
Speaker 1: this insane season, and I think Lisa's kids were later.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but big Absoleeza Leslie Um the other
Speaker 1: first person to dunk. I'm on, I'm up to my
Speaker 1: first person just because I had Candae as well. Should
Speaker 1: we take a break and then comes to break and
Speaker 1: we'll take a break. We'll take a break. Just why not?
Speaker 1: And we are back with our Megan and I number
Speaker 1: one picks. I mean it's probably my number one pick two. Oh,
Speaker 1: I thought you did your number one pick. Well, I
Speaker 1: just don't. My number one is drunk. Why you trash
Speaker 1: the kid? I'm out in the world. So okay, we'll
Speaker 1: start Megan and I will say ours and then the
Speaker 1: count of three, she just all say it. Okay, three
Speaker 1: to one. That Lee the black widow, Yes I knew you, guys,
Speaker 1: is the obvious number one. Okay, the blast way to
Speaker 1: number one. Thank you for calling her by her proper name.
Speaker 1: I didn't see her on a list and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what I think about her once a month one.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess some widows I need to be like,
Speaker 1: you know, she's just a babe. That was when I
Speaker 1: was a younger kid. I was like, WHOA, who's that
Speaker 1: hot pro billiards player? That was my billiards player. That's
Speaker 1: what you called her, what they're called pool pool players,
Speaker 1: billiards whatever she I knew her because she had like
Speaker 1: crazy trick shots. Like anytime on a Saturday and you
Speaker 1: turn on like ESPN to my headphones. I constantly do
Speaker 1: things that look like stooge, like three stooges. You're just
Speaker 1: so handsome, so when you do it, it's cute. That's
Speaker 1: very nice. We were just talking about getting divorced ten
Speaker 1: minutes ago, um and I will support you both, but
Speaker 1: Janette Lee get ready for it. He has six kids
Speaker 1: and guess what, three of her own, and she's only
Speaker 1: forty eight years old. What she's six kids, three of
Speaker 1: them are step children and three of them are hers
Speaker 1: though it's not but it's still it's not like five
Speaker 1: I want to have because it's like I want to
Speaker 1: have another one, but we already have to, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because it's one and you need to.
Speaker 1: I think I'll just bring this up. I'll bring a
Speaker 1: black boddo or just like text in this article, it's
Speaker 1: also like my body, my choice. I'll decide yeah, if
Speaker 1: the black widow can do it, and Megan and I
Speaker 1: I jokingly say I want to have six because I'm
Speaker 1: like one, I don't even know. I do want like three,
Speaker 1: you just want to you want to starting five and
Speaker 1: then one backup? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, No, I just had
Speaker 1: like I liked the dynamics of being a kid with
Speaker 1: two siblings. Yeah, I like like the dynamics. You want
Speaker 1: to three off one of us making seven million dollars
Speaker 1: a year. That's the thing is like we are We're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we need to make money and have these kids. But
Speaker 1: it's just like I have friends in my hometown who
Speaker 1: have fourteen kids and work at I do think. I
Speaker 1: also think you just figured it out, and you know
Speaker 1: how you like haven't It's like that, It's like we're
Speaker 1: not having three and now you figured it out. And
Speaker 1: again this is going back into our personalize and we'll
Speaker 1: get back to Janette Lee. But it's just like, you know,
Speaker 1: we talked to our friends and all of our friends
Speaker 1: now our parents, and we are like in the prime
Speaker 1: of our careers, like we need to accomplish this one
Speaker 1: more thing before we have kids. Inside, I don't think
Speaker 1: it works out. It doesn't just kid feel that way,
Speaker 1: you don't. I think I did it for a second. Also,
Speaker 1: everyone has kids, so you're gonna get it's like when
Speaker 1: you do in the biz, it's like everyone's talking about it.
Speaker 1: It's it's fun water cooler. Somebody's Filipino and like basketball,
Speaker 1: that's my water cooler stuff. You're just gonna Expand she
Speaker 1: has six kids, ex kids, um, and she wins. I
Speaker 1: mean those shot you know, what's to be considered the
Speaker 1: man like it's all together right, my computer, my computer die.
Speaker 1: But she's not even considered lists, um, one of the
Speaker 1: best pro pool players. But she's the thing is though
Speaker 1: she's we know her, like so she has she's the
Speaker 1: most famous pool player. I think I can't name another
Speaker 1: pool even like my eyes could glance at seventeen of
Speaker 1: them and I have no idea, you know. And just
Speaker 1: the fact that we know her black widow is whenever
Speaker 1: the black because that's says the Scarlett Johansson Aventure character.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, no, it's Janette Lee is black widow.
Speaker 1: Like I want to see a movie about Janette Lee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do too. Um. But and then finding out she
Speaker 1: had six kids was like what my teenagers, I struggled
Speaker 1: to find acceptance. I looked to boys and pot for attention.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, identify hard a teenage delinquent. Wow, I mean
Speaker 1: that feels kind of like you have to be to
Speaker 1: learn how to play pool, actually, but it actually explains
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, she's so cool. I kind of want
Speaker 1: to look more into her, Like she's someone that was
Speaker 1: just like on TV so much when we were young.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was just like the type of TV that
Speaker 1: the three of us were watching Saturday and then that
Speaker 1: would come on. Yeah, it was like Saturday you you know,
Speaker 1: you have your top three channels. It was like after
Speaker 1: American Gladiators for sure, which is all I ever wanted.
Speaker 1: And she was the coolest and she beat all the men. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he is like the Lebron James of ESPN three because
Speaker 1: there is no I mean like there there is no
Speaker 1: advantage based on gender and pool. Yeah. One, and became
Speaker 1: number one in the world eighteen months after that. I
Speaker 1: would love a thirty Yeah, where's her thirty for thirty? Wow?
Speaker 1: Maybe that's our calling. Maybe we just suggests that is
Speaker 1: my favorite thing. When people go I can't wait for
Speaker 1: the thirty third to come out about this, Like We're
Speaker 1: watching it happen right now. You need this re explain
Speaker 1: to you with dramatic music. We're watching the buzzer Beater,
Speaker 1: We're watching Where is the Mary and Jones One? For real? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's for coming. We're in the business. We
Speaker 1: can make these things happen. Okay, So yeah that was
Speaker 1: a great pick. Ten neck and back surgeries. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. She's like overcome a ton of she has scoliosis,
Speaker 1: your disks, degenerative dis disease, carpal tunnel. And they have
Speaker 1: three kids. What did you get it from having the kids?
Speaker 1: That makes my spine tingle um? Because this is the
Speaker 1: thing that happens when you have a kid. And I
Speaker 1: didn't know this, and they don't tell you this, but
Speaker 1: but things start to hurt as you get that, as
Speaker 1: your body starts pushing on itself, like I had. I
Speaker 1: had to bruised ribs just because like the baby was
Speaker 1: pushing on my right time. And and then you go
Speaker 1: to doctor and they're like, yeah, it's just going to
Speaker 1: be like that until he's out. Like it's not there's nothing,
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, you're just gonna have this cold
Speaker 1: until it's over, Like your everything starts to That's why
Speaker 1: it's like, so we'll get this arena. But we're there,
Speaker 1: we're getting I'm making myself fat right now and it
Speaker 1: hurts you. Guys are saying then, like your organs are
Speaker 1: getting shoved up into your esophagus at all. It's incredible.
Speaker 1: But I didn't. I never had acid reflux in my life.
Speaker 1: And then you get it just because everything gets shoved
Speaker 1: up and um, it's horri Like there's like a whole
Speaker 1: industry that I never understood and I'm like, wow, how
Speaker 1: did why would anyone continue eating? You have that? It's
Speaker 1: so horrific. My brother has it. It's actually turned into
Speaker 1: kind of like a party trick. What does he just take?
Speaker 1: He'll just like eat and then be like and then
Speaker 1: and you're like, did you just We'll be like walking
Speaker 1: to a museum and he'll just puke and I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you like it? Like he pukes fully pukes. No,
Speaker 1: it's like that, Like this is so I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to get into serena where I say about us. Okay,
Speaker 1: so the what did she win the Australian Open? She
Speaker 1: was eight weeks pregnant? Eight weeks doesn't sound with a lot,
Speaker 1: but is when you are the most tired, so the
Speaker 1: the sickest. It's yeah, you're you're barfing, You're and like
Speaker 1: I was in I was like walking around New York
Speaker 1: City and kept throwing up because because the smell, it's
Speaker 1: like hot. The smells are a lot. And imagine like
Speaker 1: being sweaty being in Australian flight that long of the
Speaker 1: flight I bar from. I flew to Italy when I
Speaker 1: was like ten weeks pregnant and was so sick from it,
Speaker 1: and it's like she had to fly and then complete insane?
Speaker 1: Did she be? I don't know a lot of the
Speaker 1: it gets into women that I'm not familiar with. One
Speaker 1: of that person is like looking at the mirror like man,
Speaker 1: I'm freaking garbage. No, I think they're looking across the
Speaker 1: net and going to your God or just you honored
Speaker 1: to be beaten by Yeah, I think that's the vibe
Speaker 1: of most with some So. Serena had an HBO documentary
Speaker 1: that I have seen that I talk about a lot
Speaker 1: on this podcast, and that's sort of it goes from
Speaker 1: um right before she gives birth, then to her trying
Speaker 1: to get back onto the court and Serena had a
Speaker 1: very very very traumatic lady, yes, almost died. I thought
Speaker 1: about it during my labor. I mean, what's so great
Speaker 1: about what she's done? To talk about it openly is
Speaker 1: like too. I thought of it during mind because I
Speaker 1: was like, if you feel something, say something, because even
Speaker 1: if Serena fucking Williams can almost die. And I mean
Speaker 1: it actually sadly said a lot about out how the
Speaker 1: healthcare industry views women of color, um specifically black women.
Speaker 1: That the most famous female athlete in the world is
Speaker 1: telling you something's not right with my body, someone who
Speaker 1: is so in tune with their but more in tune
Speaker 1: than the doctor is, and they still and you're at hospital,
Speaker 1: you're at the best of the best of the best
Speaker 1: for everything, and it's still just like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. And this woman who with a history of
Speaker 1: blood clots had a surgery about it in her path
Speaker 1: something that like they should be so in tune with
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to I don't know who these doctors are,
Speaker 1: but what it really raised so many like sad red
Speaker 1: flags and questions. Also, it reinforced that this is a
Speaker 1: major thing to go through. There's a woman on shawls
Speaker 1: of sunset Mercedes, and she almost died. I mean, she
Speaker 1: was in intensive care. Her uterus had to be removed.
Speaker 1: Like it's not all easy, breezy, Let's get a photographer
Speaker 1: in here after words, and I'll have my eyebrows done.
Speaker 1: Like its section is an intense surgery and that's no,
Speaker 1: and it's but that's the other thing that's like always
Speaker 1: so shocking to me, Like the people who schedule a
Speaker 1: C section, where you're like, that's they're cutting through you know,
Speaker 1: I can't even That's an incredible thing that Arena had
Speaker 1: this extremely um traumatic birth, had her beautiful, sweet angel
Speaker 1: daughter who I just love so much, And then the
Speaker 1: documentary follows her like in Florida, out training, trying and
Speaker 1: like you really do watch her struggle so like that
Speaker 1: Candice Parker seven week journey, she couldn't even do that
Speaker 1: because of the surgery that she had been through. And
Speaker 1: then you're seeing her go through it and like the
Speaker 1: fatigue and still just like having pains. And it's also
Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm not even you know, close to
Speaker 1: that love an elite athlete. I'm a pretty elite athlete,
Speaker 1: but I do, I like would consider myself athletic and
Speaker 1: then so when I went into later, when going into
Speaker 1: pregnancy and labor and all that, I was like looking
Speaker 1: at it like sports, and like do you train and
Speaker 1: then you, uh, you get ready for game day, But
Speaker 1: it's like a game day, you can't you know, you
Speaker 1: can you can't experience it. You don't know what will happen.
Speaker 1: It's all unknown even to the doctors, like what will
Speaker 1: happen with your specific pregnancy and body and whatever. So
Speaker 1: it's like it also is all scary. And then it's
Speaker 1: also they the labor goes better when you're relaxed, but
Speaker 1: then you're in this unknown, terrifying thing, in a pain
Speaker 1: that is that This is what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: I've broken bones, I've torn blown out my entire knee,
Speaker 1: I've broken my notes three times. The pain of labor
Speaker 1: was something I've never experienced. It was other worldly. It
Speaker 1: was like and that's just like something that every person
Speaker 1: who's come into this world their mother had to go through,
Speaker 1: whether you like them or not. It's insane. Serena has
Speaker 1: all so she has not won a Grand Slam since
Speaker 1: giving birth, and so she has come under a lot
Speaker 1: of not even criticism, I guess, just scrutiny, and some
Speaker 1: of that is because she is the most decorated UM.
Speaker 1: But she was going, she was like on pace to
Speaker 1: win the Grand Slam, all four titles within the calendar year.
Speaker 1: It didn't happen, And so a lot of sports writers
Speaker 1: they talk about it a lot on p t I
Speaker 1: and they're like, I think she just can't physically do
Speaker 1: it anymore, because in tennis it's very similar gymnastics. Your
Speaker 1: peak age is so young, and Strina and Venus are
Speaker 1: so much older than them, I mean double their age,
Speaker 1: these girls that they're playing. I think she can still
Speaker 1: do it. Like I think she's out there and she's
Speaker 1: like pushing and competing, and she's playing less tournaments. She's
Speaker 1: not playing every single one. It's very kind of similar
Speaker 1: to like Tiger. But but yeah, she's load managing. I
Speaker 1: think she wants it so bad. She feels the pressure
Speaker 1: to prove that's exactly it. But this is and it
Speaker 1: would be truly incredible, UM. But it's also like she
Speaker 1: and Venus are already they are already the greatest athletes,
Speaker 1: like you know, of our generation. Like I talk about
Speaker 1: Serena in every single episode we do, and we forget
Speaker 1: that I'm like Serena like everything I hate, like Kawhi
Speaker 1: Leonard because he was like sitting out like I got
Speaker 1: a little twitch. And we don't hate Kauai. Everybody has
Speaker 1: their own journey and also it's like learning your body.
Speaker 1: But load management sounds hilarious now when it's like Serena
Speaker 1: was eight months or eight weeks pregnant, Like I think
Speaker 1: the I think the more incredible thing for Serena's that
Speaker 1: she almost died. She went through this. Who's the Chiefs
Speaker 1: player that can start burying in a car accident? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I mean and Eric Bury Hachimo and then came
Speaker 1: back and played an NFL and plays at a very
Speaker 1: high level. And that's really impressive. Serena was like hours
Speaker 1: away from her life ending. That's how traumatic the injuries were.
Speaker 1: And the fact that she has been able to come
Speaker 1: back to any extent also like forget you know, even
Speaker 1: like you know these massive football injuries like to Uh's injury,
Speaker 1: He's going to come back and but they mean, that's
Speaker 1: an unbelievable injury. But this is like what happens in
Speaker 1: your body. This is a trying to get at but
Speaker 1: when what happens in your body in pregnancy you've never
Speaker 1: experienced as an athlete before, like the it's muscles that
Speaker 1: you you don't tear, like, you don't rip, your ad
Speaker 1: muscles a lot like that, like or your vagina it doesn't.
Speaker 1: There's so when after like when I was like just
Speaker 1: walking around a week after whatever, You're like, there's things
Speaker 1: out of whack that you've never even known existed before.
Speaker 1: So that's like such a different journey to get back
Speaker 1: on the court. When you're twisting, it feels completely different.
Speaker 1: And she's had her you know her like the what
Speaker 1: you need and tennis to twist is completely ripped up
Speaker 1: by that. She's got a good man buy her side.
Speaker 1: Yeah man who created Reddit. I mean, all of these women,
Speaker 1: all of these across America, seems like he seems awesome
Speaker 1: and they truly have loved for each other in a
Speaker 1: way that's beautiful. I highly recommend the documentary. I think
Speaker 1: it's called Being Serena. It's on hbo. Um. All of
Speaker 1: these women are incredible. I think female athletes in general,
Speaker 1: whether their mothers or not, have faced more adversity, less pay,
Speaker 1: more hostile like everything. So they're extremely incredible to me.
Speaker 1: So I guess the takeaway is behind your mom's Yeah,
Speaker 1: even when it's hard. They went through a lot, and
Speaker 1: I think it also makes it so beautiful how many
Speaker 1: of these male athletes really really love their moms so much.
Speaker 1: And some of that is you know, they raised all
Speaker 1: of those things that they did and the sacrifices they made.
Speaker 1: But I can't wait for us to do an episode
Speaker 1: on greateth at Eatest. Did I say my own greatest
Speaker 1: Greatest Athletes moms? Oh that's a I was like Campbell soup.
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna watch. We're going to do a chunky
Speaker 1: commercial um trio which still don't know if those are
Speaker 1: their actual moments are I think it depends on what
Speaker 1: the mom is bringing performance wise, and also their relationship
Speaker 1: if they're like brings it, like like Vaughan's parents were
Speaker 1: on Saturday and they're hilarious and their relations and like
Speaker 1: they come alive when he's talking to them. Like there,
Speaker 1: I mean, they their family loves each other so much.
Speaker 1: It's really really great. But like Grons family is the same.
Speaker 1: I think the Gronks are very close there. What was
Speaker 1: that the clip of like all the brothers or the
Speaker 1: whole family came on stage when he got drafted. I mean,
Speaker 1: it makes me cry, but there's he We did a
Speaker 1: labor simulator segment with him on our show, and which
Speaker 1: before it went, before it happened, we were like, he
Speaker 1: was like, it can't be that bad. He was like,
Speaker 1: cranking all the way up, it can't be that bad.
Speaker 1: And then which led to me screaming in his dressing room.
Speaker 1: You'll never know the pain I ship myself in front
Speaker 1: of strangers and it's like, why am I yelling at it?
Speaker 1: The sweetest man, but my mom was. He did thank
Speaker 1: his mother. Absolutely, that's what you want. My mom was
Speaker 1: a lama's teacher for many years um and worked in
Speaker 1: been there for my labor. I mean that's I think
Speaker 1: that's the Anne has worked in hospice. You know, she's
Speaker 1: been bringing him in and taking him out. She used
Speaker 1: to put used to have this thing. It was called
Speaker 1: an empathy belly, and they would put it on the
Speaker 1: husbands so they could at least like feel what it
Speaker 1: felt like just to have like that weight. Possibly not,
Speaker 1: but she put the empathy belly on Reggie Miller and wow,
Speaker 1: this is intense. It's a great Fresh Prince episode two.
Speaker 1: Whe does it. He does the the labor simulator. No, no,
Speaker 1: the empathy belly. Oh, you're just carrying the but that
Speaker 1: doesn't even it doesn't even come close to push your
Speaker 1: organs up right. That's like the Mrs Doubt fire. So
Speaker 1: basically it's not the same. Um, Aaron, where can our
Speaker 1: listeners find you? Oh? Well, you can follow me on
Speaker 1: Instagram Aaron Deweye, Lennox or Twitter also the same. I
Speaker 1: have a bi weekly how do you say it? Every
Speaker 1: other week? Bi weekly? It's frog Town. Awesome show. It's
Speaker 1: really fun at outside, bring your dog. If you live
Speaker 1: in l A and you have the Chase Mobile app
Speaker 1: when you open it up, sometimes you're at spoke By Cafe.
Speaker 1: Is on there? Yeah, that's where it's every other latter
Speaker 1: day Mark. Um, it's such a fun show. And when
Speaker 1: is the Gronk CBS show coming out? They haven't told
Speaker 1: you yet. Sometimes the spring. But it's really going to
Speaker 1: be good. You guys are wrong. Coordinate is on it? No,
Speaker 1: he's an EP. He's a guest on it one time.
Speaker 1: But but then we have all these incredible athlete but
Speaker 1: Bobby leaves the other comic that but we have so
Speaker 1: many incredible athlete guests that I got to I got
Speaker 1: to take a picture with Jerry Smith wearing a shirt
Speaker 1: of his skin. I've seen that. I said, it's your skin,
Speaker 1: and then we took a photos. I believe it. I
Speaker 1: love j R. We'll figure out a way. Greatest, greatest
Speaker 1: guy who threw sleep at his coach he could. He's
Speaker 1: the number one and a lot of women do the
Speaker 1: win championships and perpetuating commune of human life. Aaron, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Thanks for having you guys. This was
Speaker 1: so fun. Maybe this will make this like a annual.
Speaker 1: You'll come on and give us a mom scoop. Okay, great,
Speaker 1: I'm an I'm an expert mom ex tell my kids
Speaker 1: that y'all yell in your baby's face. Thank you guys
Speaker 1: for listening. We'll see you next week. The Great Satist
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