1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: Welcome man, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Aaron Torres, 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the tirec dot 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: Com studios tyreq dot com. We'll help you get there, 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: and I'm match selection, fast, free shipping, free road hazard protection, 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: over ten thousand recommended installers, Tireck dot com, the way 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: tire buying should be. I was in Vegas covering the 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: PAC twelve tournament over the last three days. You can 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: hear it in my voice. But so much college hoops, 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: so much NFL. Jmart my man. By the way, jmart 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: of Tobacco Roads. 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: Fame of NC State, Fame. 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: Land Ami, are you what's going on? Are you wearing 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: your NC State pajamas right now? Give me the scope here. 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm not. But it's really interesting because both my alma maters, 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: NC State that I attended first and in Western Kentucky 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: where I finished my degree, both just won their tournaments 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: and qualified like within the same couple of minutes. They 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: were both on television and it was cool. And the 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: NC State story. You know this because Connecticut, I think, 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: is the only other team to do it. Yep, to 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: win five games in five days. I think it was 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: back in twenty eleven Kemba Walker. So yeah, so it's 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: just cool to see and obviously it's a you know, 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: North Carolina was going to go no matter what. We 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: already knew that, but just watching the NC State kids, 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: who you know, were nine and eleven in conference at 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: twenty one and fourteen of the year, it was an 29 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: up and down year to say the least. Just the 30 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: emotion on them having pulled this off, not just making 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: it to the final, but winning it. There've been a 32 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: couple of other times where the wolf back of Meya 33 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: final kind of improbably in some down or mediocre years 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: and then been able to turn the corner and get 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: to the final, but then not be able to get 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: over the hump. For them to actually do it, it's 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: just super impressive and it's just another reminder of what 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: March brings and why we love this time of year 39 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: is because of the possibility of chaos. 40 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, really quickly, you know, and you know the history. 41 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: Like you talk about a program, I think there's probably 42 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: two in my life that you could argue. It just 43 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: feels like everything that can go wrong does go wrong 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: at the worst possible time you're affiliated with two of them. 45 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: One is Tennessee, the other one is NC State, And like, 46 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: I think back to all the stuff that has happened 47 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: to that program through the years, you know, even like 48 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this, but like the 49 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: College Baseball Tournament. 50 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one, Oh I remember it. Yeah, what was it? 51 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 2: They got to the championship game and then they had 52 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: like six players ruled out for COVID on the day 53 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 2: of the game or something like that. 54 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, where you say. 55 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I went anything more to say other 56 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: than just yeah. I mean, sometimes luck is just not 57 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: on your side. And well, at that point in time, 58 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: the thing was, it was just luck wasn't on anybody's 59 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: side at that time. But it was a year where 60 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: NC State was very competitive and really good, and it 61 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: just took them completely out of the equation. It's just 62 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: it's a good night for Raleigh. I was there, you know, 63 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: I was in school when NC State beat Florida State 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: in football, and this is when you just didn't beat 65 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: Florida State, especially in conference, and it happened. It was 66 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: a primetime game on a Thursday, and I just remember, 67 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: I think classes were canceled the next day and then 68 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: almost nobody remembers that weekend at all because it was 69 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: just absolute pandemonium. And it's just cool to see that. 70 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: And I know what Hillsborough Street looks like right now, 71 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: and I just I feel good for them because they 72 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: haven't had a ton to cheer for. They've had some 73 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: good programs in sports through the years, but it's been 74 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: a few lean years and it's cool. And again now 75 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: they're in the tournament. They weren't gonna be, so here 76 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: you go. Somebody lost a bid tonight. 77 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: Let me you know, we were gonna start with Justin Fields, 78 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: but listen, the news is a few hours old and 79 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: we can get. 80 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: To Justin Field, so we got plenty of time. 81 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is topical and this is March. So 82 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: let's let's stick with college basketball. Because you know, you 83 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: and I were batting around ideas before the show, and 84 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: I do think the conversation is interesting because we all, 85 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: you know, you know, even people that aren't diehards, you 86 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: kind of follow, you kind of try to see what 87 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: the you know, what the big stories are, what the 88 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: teams are that are that are worth monitor and and 89 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: so I bring it up because even if you're not 90 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 2: a diehard, you kind of know who are the contenders, 91 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: who are not the contenders, all that good stuff. So 92 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: I bring it up because just today, Houston loses. Yesterday, 93 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 2: Tennessee loses, is the top seed in the SEC tournament, 94 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: Arizona loses to an Oregon team that isn't projected to 95 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: make the tournament. 96 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: As you just said a moment ago, you. 97 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: Kind of win in in relative dominant fashion today, but 98 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: even yesterday had to hold on against against against Saint John's. 99 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: By the way, North Carolina, which some believe was in 100 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: line to get that fourth number one. 101 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 3: Seed, loses to NC State tonight. 102 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: Does this change your perspective at all of what to 103 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: expect from this tournament? Because on the one hand, you 104 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: could say it's wide open. I think on the other 105 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: hand you could say, well, now, Yukon, if there was 106 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: any doubt whether they were the favorites or not, didn't 107 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: even mention that Purdue loss today in the in overtime 108 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 2: in the Big Ten tournament. So essentially we're gonna have 109 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: one number one seed win one of these major conferences. 110 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: That was Yukon. 111 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: Does it change at all your perspective of it's more 112 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 2: wide open than you thought, or or does it or 113 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: or did this just confirm that Yukon is the definitive 114 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: team to beat or or none neither of the above. 115 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So I think there's I think there's a nuance here. 116 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: I think there's different ways to look at it. I 117 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: will be picking Yukon to win. I'm not even gonna care. 118 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, I will pick them to win. 119 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: I do think they're the best team in the country. 120 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: But I think there is a difference between how many 121 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: teams can actually win the whole thing and how many 122 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: teams can lose. And I think that my feeling on 123 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: it is there are a pretty small amount of teams 124 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: that I feel like have the makeup to actually win 125 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: the tournament. But there is no one that I can't 126 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: see losing like there is there is every team in 127 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: this tournament can lose, and there's just so many There's 128 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: so many factors that go into it. And you look 129 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: at what we what you just laid out with Houston 130 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: and with Tennessee and Kentucky and Alabama all going down 131 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: for the first time in the SEC Tournament on Friday night, 132 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: and what we saw tonight with North Carolina and do 133 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, barely not even getting too the weekend and 134 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: all of this stuff. I do think Yukon should win 135 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: at all, but this tournament and the fact that you 136 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: show up and you shoot twenty seven percent, I don't 137 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: care how good you've been, You're gonna get beat. We've 138 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: seen Arizona lose to USC during our time slot just 139 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: in the past few weeks. It just continues to happen. 140 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: I just don't feel confident about anything other than telling 141 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: you I think Yukon should win it, and I think 142 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: they're the best team in the country. But there is 143 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: no team I think is unbeatable on the right night. 144 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: So it's gonna come down to matchups, basketball matchups and 145 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: making shots. And that's uh, that's a crap shoot, man. 146 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: No it is. 147 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: And and it's tough because you know, I was doing 148 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: you know, postgame shows over the last couple of days 149 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: after all these these game these nights, and you know, 150 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: you sort of get caught up in the moment, but 151 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: you sort of don't. And and you know, that was 152 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: one thing I always said, is that like basically there's 153 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: no like, there's no such thing as an unbeatable team 154 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: in this sport. I mean, they're you know, in professional sports, 155 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: you gotta win four out of seven, you know, true 156 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: home venues. Obviously everything's weighted towards the better teams, and 157 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: you know, but but but I just bring it up 158 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: because even a you kind of matter how dominant they are, 159 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: can be beaten. Obviously we saw Houston can be beaten today. 160 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: If there was doubts about other teams, they were disproven 161 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: uh this week. And so I do think there's that 162 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: I will say, like one, Yukon is going to be 163 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: the team to be. And to your point, by the way, 164 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: because Steve Hartman threw this in my face the second 165 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: I walked in studio ten minutes ago. Well, according to 166 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: Steve Hartman, only four so Yukon. So they do put 167 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: out an AP pole after the bracket is announced for 168 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: whatever reason, there's no reason to. And he said in 169 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: the last forty years, only four teams that were ranked 170 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: number one in the final AP pole after the bracket 171 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: is revealed. I don't know if it's the final one. 172 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: They might do one after the tournament, I forget, but 173 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: the bracket going into the tournament only four times in 174 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 2: the last forty years has the team been ranked number 175 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: one in the country gone on to win the national championship. 176 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 3: So that shows you how hard it is. 177 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: And so even in years where there isn't a prohibited 178 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: favorite like Yukon, you know, I do think that it's 179 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: a hard thing to win. I mean, they say it's 180 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: the toughest postseason in sports to win, and I believe 181 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: it's six single elimination games. Like you said, bad shooting night, 182 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: twisted ankle, bad referee call, whatever. What I'll also say 183 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: is it's tough because you know that, but without knowing 184 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: the bracket, I will also say this. I mean, if 185 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: you've watched these teams over the last couple of weeks, 186 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 2: Yukon not. And I was telling this to Steve when 187 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: when he was kind of busting my chops. Is that 188 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: you look at the way the bracket's gonna break. Yukon 189 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: their first two games are going to be in Brooklyn, 190 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 2: and should they win those next two games those first 191 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: two games, their next two games are going to be 192 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: in Boston as the number one seed. And so I 193 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 2: just bring it up because, like I think they should 194 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: be the favorite. I get the concept that no team 195 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: is unbeatable. We've seen twenty fifteen Kentucky when they were 196 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: undefeated going to the Final four, twenty twenty one Kenzaga 197 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: when they were undefeated of going in the championship game. 198 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: I get all that, but four home games for Yukon, 199 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: and I will tell you Houston, I know they lost today. 200 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 2: I know Iowa State won in very convincing fashion. I 201 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 2: don't think there's any way to prepare for Houston if 202 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: you've never seen him. This was Iowa State's third time 203 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 2: playing them, you know, coming into today, I'll say this 204 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: is like, I'm not saying that Houston is unbeatable either. 205 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: They had lost since the since early January. They had 206 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: lost one game, it was at Kansas, and so it's like, 207 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: I just I think it's wide open. But I do 208 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 3: think there are two or three teams that you're really 209 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 3: it's gonna take more than just you know, your best shot, 210 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: Like stuff is going to have to go wrong for them. 211 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: I mean, even Yukon today, they you know, anyone who 212 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 3: watched the game for Yukon knows they basically couldn't put 213 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 3: the ball in the basket for the literally, like the 214 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 3: first twelve thirteen minutes of the game, and they still 215 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: end up putting over seventy points up and winning, by 216 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: the way, against the top ten team in the country. 217 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: So I just bring it up because I think it's interesting. 218 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: Anybody is beatable. But I also do think that, like 219 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: with the way the bracket's gonna go, I think Yukon's 220 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: gonna be really tough to knock out, Houston the same. 221 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 2: And then I think once you get past that, we've 222 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 2: seen that Tennessee on any given night, Arizona on any 223 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: given night, Duke certainly on any given night. 224 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 3: All these other teams are very beautiful. 225 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, And what's interesting And when we were kind of 226 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: just batting this back and forth this afternoon via text, 227 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: I kind of threw out the feeling it's just like 228 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: there's nobody that fully trust. And you said interesting because 229 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: I kind of feel opposite because there's two teams, And 230 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: I immediately said, well, I mean, I certainly feel the 231 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: best about Yukon and Houston, and those are the same 232 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: two you're looking at. I mean, I do if one 233 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: of those two teams wins, not only will it not 234 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: be a surprise, it will make all the sense in 235 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: the world. It's just when you look at how many 236 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: top seeds and good teams, really good teams have found 237 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: ways to lose during the regular season, and just it 238 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: is the hardest one to win. And the reason why 239 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: is because it's single elimination. All it takes is one 240 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: bad half. Honestly, if it's a second half, especially, you 241 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: can find yourself on the outside looking in. You're right though, 242 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: It's not just going to be you showing up and 243 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: playing the best basketball in your life. They're also going 244 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: to have to play a mediocre game at best for 245 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: you to find your way to win, because, like you said, 246 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: they won by sixteen over Marquette, I think it was 247 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: after having that tough start. Those are two teams I 248 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: do anticipate they both should make a Final four, and honestly, 249 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: if one of them doesn't, that's gonna be a disappointment 250 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: for a season. 251 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I can just tell you for even from 252 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: the Yukon perspective, you know that Creighton was the last 253 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: team to beat him. 254 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 3: Yukon. 255 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: They're only lost in twenty twenty four is to Creighton 256 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: in that game, and Creighton shot fourteen of twenty eight 257 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: from three, and Yukon is they're not an elite three 258 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 2: point percentage defense team. But nobody's come close to hitting 259 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: fifty percent on, you know, with fourteen threes in that game. 260 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: So Yukon wins UH the Big East, Houston loses the 261 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 2: big twelve worth noting, by the way, right before we 262 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 2: came on air, NC State does stun North Carolina UH 263 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: in the ACC final that has two ramifications as one, 264 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: NC State would not have been in the field. It 265 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 2: means that there is one bid that will be stolen. 266 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: Also for North Carolina, I think they would have absolutely 267 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: locked up the fourth number one seed Perdue, Yukon and 268 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 2: Houston pretty much have them locked up independent of what 269 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: happened today. Now, the question that becomes North Carolina, Tennessee 270 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: or Arizona. I won't bore the audience with stats, Jason, 271 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: I assume one. I don't even know if it's anything 272 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: you have a strong opinion on, but I'll say this 273 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: is that I don't think any of them really has 274 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: like a super strong leg to stand on, and I 275 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: don't think any of them has a super big gripe. 276 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: I if one of them doesn't end up as that 277 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: third number one seed, yeah, because. 278 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: They all had it within their their ability to make it. 279 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: A non issue, I think, and none of them were 280 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: able to do it, So I think you're right, like 281 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: I felt, really I started to buy in more to 282 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: Tennessee over the last couple of weeks, but then you 283 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: find a way to lose to Kentucky and then just 284 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: shockingly get beat by Mississippi State, and then North Carolina 285 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: not being able to win their conference tournament and everything else. 286 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't know which way they're going to go either. 287 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: I think all three of those teams are teams they're 288 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: capable of winning the entire thing. They are also teams 289 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: that are very capable of disappointing relatively early. So it's 290 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: just the tournament's going to be great fun to watch 291 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: just from a just from the intrigue of who is 292 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: going to find a way to get through this thing 293 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: unscathed and outside of the two teams that we have 294 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: really discussed, everybody else there is there's a there's a 295 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: very high possibility and then there's a very low possibility. 296 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: It seems like there are extremes for most of these teams, 297 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: and so it's really just gonna come down to watching 298 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: all these games, which should be fantastic. 299 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio Aeron towards Jason Martin on 300 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: a Saturday night. 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Did you 344 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: know Discover wants everyone to feel special. That's why with 345 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: your Discover credit card, you have access to twenty four 346 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: to seven customer service as well as zero dollar fraud liability, 347 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: which means you're never held responsible for unauthorized purchases. Jason, 348 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: we have yet another five that will very much impact 349 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 2: the bubble as the Oregon Ducks have won the PAC 350 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 2: twelve tournament. 351 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 3: This is relevant. 352 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: Oregon was not getting into the NCAA tournament if they 353 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: did not win the PAC twelve. They along with NC 354 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: State both just stole bids. I should mention, by the way, 355 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: Florida Atlantic lost in their conference tournament, meaning that the 356 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 2: AAC will get somebody in who was not projected to 357 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 2: be there otherwise. If you're a Saint John's fan, if 358 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: you're an Indiana State fan, if you're a Providence fan, 359 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 2: if you're a Texas A and M fan, which I 360 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 2: think probably would have been off the bubble with the 361 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: win over Kentucky last night probably back on now. 362 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: This is crazy. This is crazy. 363 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 2: I feel like every year we wait for stuff like 364 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: this to happen, and it very rarely does. But we 365 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: got three or four bids here that have been taken 366 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 2: that are gonna go to teams that otherwise would not 367 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: have gotten in without winning their conference tournament. 368 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's unfortunately the way that it works for those 369 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: teams that are going to be on the outside looking in. 370 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: But I again look at all of this and just say, 371 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: if you were sitting on the bubble in a sixty 372 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: eighteen tournament, you just haven't done enough. You've put it 373 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: in the hands of someone else, and so then things 374 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: are going to have to go your way, and sometimes 375 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 1: they don't. Because as Bernie Froude, who follows us our 376 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: good friend, always says, it's the best reality show there is, 377 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: and that's what comes true over and over again. You 378 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: had an entire season to not be on a sixty 379 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: eighteen bubble. If you get to that point and someone 380 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: wins their conference tournament and that's the way that they 381 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: get into the tournament, unfortunately, that's on you. I hate 382 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: to say it because it sounds it sounds nasty, it 383 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: sounds ugly, but it's just it's the reality of sports. 384 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: For someone to win, someone else has to lose, and 385 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: in this case, we're going to see that. 386 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: So I was gonna say this story for the end 387 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: of the end of the show or the end of 388 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: what what ever. But uh, there is another very interesting 389 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: storyline that is developing in beautiful Henderson, Nevada right now 390 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: as the Long Beach State. Why am I probably blanking 391 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: on their name or whatever they are? 392 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: Who cares? Forty nine ers? Thank you to Saga, I 393 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: knew you, chime in. 394 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: I don't know how I didn't know that Long Beach 395 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: State is up by three with forty nine seconds to 396 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: go in the Big West Championship. 397 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: Now, normally we would. 398 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: Not be talking about Long Beach State on this show, Jason, 399 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 2: but Long Beach State made the very interesting decision. A 400 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 2: week ago they announced that they were relieving their head coach, 401 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 2: Dan Munson of his duties, which means he was fired. 402 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: But they said, ah, you know, we're gonna let you 403 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: finish what you started here, and they let him coach 404 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 2: the conference tournament. 405 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: With Long Beach State entering at eighteen. 406 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: And fourteen and in the four spot in the bracket, 407 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 2: Long Beach State is thirty five seconds away from clinching 408 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: an NCAA tournament birth with a coach that has been fired, 409 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: yet the school let him stay out for the conference tournament. 410 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'd be happy or sad if 411 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: I was in the Long Beach State ad right now, 412 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: because they got to be sitting there kind of scratching 413 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: their head. 414 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a cool story from the perspective of 415 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: the coach and the team, assuming that they were all 416 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: see and I and all of that. But yeah, so 417 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: they called it a mutual separation, but they re lead them. 418 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean they said they were gonna part ways with 419 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: him after the season. It is funny. It's just kind 420 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: of I don't think that it's that big of a 421 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: deal one way or the other. I don't think we're 422 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: talking about Long Beach State at all if not for 423 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 1: this story. No, And so if you want to, if 424 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: you believe in the axiom that there is no bad bablistic, 425 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: which I don't, I do think there is in this case, 426 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: it's not in this case. This is just a humorous stories, like, 427 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: of course we're gonna let him go, and now he's 428 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: gonna make the tournament for us. And I think that 429 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: Long Beach State, the decision makers there, we'll probably laugh 430 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: at this, just like the coach will, and it'll be 431 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: a fun story and it'll probably be a bit of 432 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: a you know, a couple headlines written out of it, 433 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: maybe a maybe I think piece or two on TV. 434 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: And I think that's good for Long Beach State. That's 435 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: a that's a fun way for you know, you never 436 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: want to see the separation, so there's a there's some 437 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: negativity and some bittersweetness attached to it, but that's a 438 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: it's kind of if you're gonna have that happen, this 439 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: is probably the best possible scenario to just kind of 440 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: make it fun on the way out. 441 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think it teaches a very valuable lesson. If 442 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: you're gonna fire guy, you can't let him coach the count. 443 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: If you're going to fire him before the conference tournament, 444 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: you can't let him coach the conference tournament. 445 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, because when there's when there's automatic bids for sure. 446 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And like you know, the counter people would say, well, 447 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: you know, why, why why don't you fire him before 448 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: the tournament? It's because he can win it, and you know, 449 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: obviously this was not something that they anticipated. But and 450 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: by the way, I also understand why you don't wait 451 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: until after the conference tournament because if he does win it, 452 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: then it basically makes them it makes it impossible to 453 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: fire him. 454 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 3: So I have no problem with the firing. 455 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm far from a Long Beach State like 456 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: basketball expert, but you know, Dan Munson's been there forever 457 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: he's had you know, I think he's been there probably 458 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: about fifteen or twenty years at this point, and so 459 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: I just bring it up because he had plenty of 460 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: time to prove that he was the right guy for 461 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: the job. He has been there since two thousand and seven. 462 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 2: This will be his second NCAA tournament since two thousand 463 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 2: and seven when he got the job, So he had 464 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: plenty of time. And you know, me being a little 465 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: bit of a college basketball nerd, I know enough coaches 466 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: in the industry that have kind of been wondering for years. 467 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: I mean literally five six, seven years when this job 468 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: was going to open. But it is an interesting scenario. 469 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: UC Davis has cut the lead to three, Long Beach 470 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: State up with eleven seconds to go. If they can 471 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: get the ball in and make one fall shot, they 472 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: should be going to the NCAA Tournament. But yeah, shout 473 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: out to Long Beach State. If you're gonna fire a 474 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 2: coach and you're going to you're going to fire coach 475 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 2: before a conference tournament, you tell him to pack up 476 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: the office. He ain't coming on the bus with you 477 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: of the conference tournament. Fox Sports Radio Era Tors Jason Martin, 478 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot Com studios, continue the conversation. 479 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: Our college hoops want to get back to Yukon, our 480 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: Dan Hurley and the. 481 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 3: Husky's the new face of this sport. We'll discuss that next. 482 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 2: Before we do, though, Steve Desager with your Long Beach 483 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: State history lesson. 484 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 6: I used to work at the local station that carried 485 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 6: the Long Beach State games and the Beach as they 486 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 6: refer to themselves, So I bet there are Beach fans 487 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 6: that don't even remember the whole forty nine ers nickname. 488 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 6: By the way, Long Beach State did beat USC this 489 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 6: year in Brownie James debut. He had more points that night, 490 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 6: and the Beach beat him at USC in overtime. Back 491 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 6: in December, here, Long Beach State had lost five in 492 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 6: a row to finish the regular season, so they finished 493 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 6: ten and ten in conference. 494 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: Wow, I'll say, really quick, I'm sure someone will make 495 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 2: the argument that he should be able to keep his 496 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: job after doing this. You've been at a job since 497 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: two thousand and seven, and you've made one tournament. He 498 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 2: hasn't made an NCAA tournament since twenty twelve. Like, I 499 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: don't care how broke the school is. I don't care 500 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: who you know. 501 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 6: Hey, you see your vine's tough man? Well yeah, oh yeah, 502 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 6: it's just I like tuck the leaf over them. 503 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: Hey man. He got to the final round of the 504 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: game show and then he wasn't able to guess the word, 505 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: and they gave him a nice parting gift. And the 506 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: parting gift is this. It's not what comes after this. Well, 507 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: it's just like, hey man, you get to take home 508 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: this whirlpool washer and dryer, and that's that's kind of 509 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: what this is going to be if they make the 510 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: NCAA tournament. That's a fun way for his run at 511 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: Long Beach State to end, but it ended for a reason. 512 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 6: In his career. The lovely parting gift, what's the contract 513 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 6: he got from Minnesota to leave Gonzaga in the first place. 514 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 6: I was over twenty years ago. 515 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 2: The parting gift was what he left for Mark Fuicknzaga. 516 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: But now, in all serious as Mark Fu took it 517 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 2: to a level that he probably never would have but 518 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: it is crazy. 519 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: He was the guy that started all So. 520 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 6: It's eleven seconds to go in Vegas or the suburbs 521 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 6: of Vegas. Long Beach State is leading seventy two sixty 522 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 6: eights over UC Davis, the two seed in the Big 523 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 6: West Championship game. 524 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 3: So Long Beach State is. 525 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 6: Going to go to twenty one and fourteen here three 526 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 6: and a half seconds to go seventy two to seventy. 527 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 6: Let's not count our chickens, shall we? 528 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: Like Dan Muns, like Long Beach State did, counted the 529 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: chickens before they atched. 530 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: Tobey didn't months in it. Going back to Kingpin. 531 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 6: Concreds to Western Kentucky apparently their first Conference USA championship 532 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 6: as they beat UTEP. This is an odd matchup in 533 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 6: a final Conference USA tonight, seventy eight seventy one the final. 534 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 6: Western Kentucky went eight and eight in league play. UTEP 535 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 6: had gone seven to nine in league play. But the 536 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 6: two wins Oregons and NC States are the ones that 537 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 6: are still going to be talked about tomorrow because there 538 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 6: are more teams on the bubble now because those two 539 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 6: are in they are conference tournament champions. NC State with 540 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 6: its fifth win in five days this week, takes the 541 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 6: AC Final against fourth rank North Carolina eighty four to 542 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 6: seventy six. Oregon in Vegas won the PAC twelve final 543 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 6: against Colorado seventy five to sixty eight earlier in Vegas. Today, 544 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 6: New Mexico beat San Diego State to win the Mountain 545 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 6: West sixty eight sixty one, Lobos into the NCAA Tournament 546 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 6: for the first time in a decade. Number two Yukon 547 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 6: wins the Big East Final on Fox TV, beating number 548 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 6: ten rank Marquette seventy three to fifty seven, and number 549 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 6: one Houston lost sixty nine to forty one against seventh 550 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 6: ranked Iowa States, which takes the Big twelve Crown forty 551 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 6: one points fews by an AP number one team since 552 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 6: nineteen eighty two. Selection Sunday for the NCAA Tournament is tomorrow. 553 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 6: Vermont took the America East Final, Howard takes the MIAC 554 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 6: Saint Peter's wins a close Metro Atlantic Final. Right now, 555 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 6: Grambling has a chance for the NCAA Tournament two and 556 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 6: a half to go. Grambling, one seat in the Swack, 557 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 6: is leading its final against Texas Southern seventy one to 558 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 6: fifty eight. Complete crusher for Kent State. What a way 559 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 6: to end the season. I just saw that highlight during 560 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 6: the pemmersh Row Akron Advances winning the MAC Conference Final 561 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 6: sixty two to sixty one. Kent State, you see, had 562 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 6: scored to take the lead with under ten seconds to go, 563 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 6: and then one of their players, thinking they were not ahead, 564 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 6: fouled intentionally in the back court, handing Akron two free throws, 565 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 6: which turned out to be the two game winning free 566 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 6: throws with five seconds left, sixty two to sixty one. 567 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 6: And so happy that we have another conference final, the 568 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,479 Speaker 6: last one just about to start in Vegas. Grand Canyon 569 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,239 Speaker 6: at twenty eight and four out of Phoenix, Arizona. And 570 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 6: where is the final four this year? Ladies and gentlemen. 571 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 3: You're saying Grand Canyon's going Phoenix Arizona. 572 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: And NC State's winning the championship just like Yukon after 573 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 2: winning five and five. 574 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: Baby, it's gonna. 575 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 6: Be Grand Canyon against UT Arlington in the WAT Conference 576 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 6: Final just about to begin. We haven't talked much about 577 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 6: the NBA. Let me tell you this. Late in the 578 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 6: Lakers Golden State game tonight, it took literally fifty team 579 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 6: to twenty minutes to play fifteen seconds of game time. 580 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 6: There was a long video review and then constant shot 581 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 6: clock problems. They would inbound it and the referees whistle 582 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 6: and they'd go try and figure it out, inbound it again, 583 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 6: shot clock still not moving, over and over. Literally, it 584 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 6: took more than fifteen minutes to play fifteen seconds of 585 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 6: the game. Golden State beat the Lakers one tight, one 586 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 6: tent one. Anthony Davis with an eye injury left after 587 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 6: the first quarter. The eye was swollen shut after taking 588 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 6: a hit, and the Bears traded quarterback Justin Fields to 589 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 6: the Steelers. 590 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve the Seger, 591 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday ERR towards Jason Martin. 592 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the tyreq dot com studios. 593 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: By the way, well the Sager was talking to Jason, 594 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: and I do want to get to the Yukon produced stuff, 595 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: but it struck me as I'm watching the confetti fall 596 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: in Vegas. This is basically like the last Pac twelve 597 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: thing that we'll probably ever talk about, Like I know, 598 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: maybe like one of their softball teams will be good 599 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: in the spring, or like you know, Stanford will make 600 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: the college World Series. But this is this is basically 601 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: it like just one hundred and ten years conference of 602 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 2: champions When Oregon walks out of that arena, that's basically 603 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: the end of the Pac twelve as we know, Jason. 604 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: It's kind of surreal that we have come to this place. 605 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: And it's been quite a year for the Pac twelve 606 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: as well, with the way the football season played out 607 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: and having so many more competitive teams than we thought 608 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: and one of them making it right to the doorstep 609 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: in the National Championship. And now we're going to see 610 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: whatever these teams are able to do in the NCAA Tournament. 611 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: But the fact that we are losing a conference that 612 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: does have a ton of tradition and regional importance and 613 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: championships and all these kinds of things, it's it's surreal, 614 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,239 Speaker 1: and it just shows how fast everything can change, and 615 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: just the landscape of college sports going forward and what 616 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: it looks like is just so radically different than maybe 617 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: we could have even foreseen five years ago, even though 618 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: I think we all might have seen at some point 619 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: we get here. I think it wasn't a gradual It 620 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: felt like it was gonna be gradual, and then all 621 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden, we look up and we went from 622 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: zero to one hundred in about two seconds. 623 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 3: It was literally less than a week. 624 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: Like it was like Colorado is thinking about leaving, and 625 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: I think they left. And then it was like, you know, 626 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: is the Big twelve gonna be able to poach another team? 627 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, it was like, well, 628 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 2: the Big twelve things they can get those other three 629 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: corner schools. And then the Big Ten was like, well, crap, 630 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 2: now we kind of have we don't have to take anybody, 631 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: but like then now is our chance to get Oregon 632 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: and watching it on the cheaps. So it's just crazy 633 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: to think about it. I mean, listen, we've done the moratorium. 634 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: You know, there's other stuff. There's bigger issues in the world. 635 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: All those teams are still gonna play sports, but it 636 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: is kind of wild to just think. I was just 637 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: thinking about that as the Sager was speaking. As Oregon 638 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: wins the Back twelve championship, tell you what Jason will 639 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: come back, will wrap the hour. We will get to 640 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: some interesting conversation. Also worth noting, by the way, Long 641 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: Beach State did win the Big West. Dan Munson, who 642 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: was fired but allowed to coach the Conference tournament is 643 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: headed to the NCAA Tournament. What's the line for the 644 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: movie Friday, How'd you get fired on your day off? 645 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: This is like the exact opposite of that, you know, 646 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: It's like, how'd you get fired? 647 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 3: And you had your best week on the job. 648 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: Anyway, we'll discuss you kN perdue everything else in college 649 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: basketball next, and of course plenty of NFL with Justin Fields, 650 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: and of course all the quarterback news of the week. 651 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: That's all coming up. Fox Sports Radio. 652 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 653 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 654 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 4: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 655 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 4: listen live. 656 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio er Torris Jason Martin 657 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tire Rack dot com studios. We are, 658 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: according to my math, what fourteen minutes away from officially 659 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: hitting selection Sunday. In college basketball, we will have a 660 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: bracket by this time tomorrow. As we've been telling you 661 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: a lot of interesting news. Tonight, Oregon Oregon and NC 662 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: State win the PAC twelve and the ACC respectively, stealing 663 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: two bids. We'll continue that conversation. We will get to 664 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: some NFL in just a few minutes talking Justin Fields. 665 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: I had a question for you, Jason, and you know 666 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: this is one I'm more curious for your perspective because 667 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: something I'm probably a little bit too close to. But 668 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 2: a week ago you and I were on and we 669 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: had a real big conversation about Caitlin Clark in the 670 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 2: state of the women's game, and just the lack of 671 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: kind of recognizable stars in college basketball. 672 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 3: The players leave early. 673 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: This has always been a coach driven sport, and when 674 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: coach k Roy Williams, when those guys retired over the 675 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 2: last couple of years, obviously Jim Beheim, Jay Wright, it 676 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: does feel like there's kind of a void. 677 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 3: Yes there's John Caliperry, but he's on the back end. 678 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: Even Kentucky fans are kind of, you know, accepting that 679 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: the end is near and he's probably not what he 680 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: once was. Tom Izzo certainly isn't, you know, at the 681 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: peak of his powers anymore. I just bring it up 682 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: because you know, I was watching Yukon today and why 683 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: I want to ask you is that basically Yukon wins 684 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: the national championship this past year. Okay, they come back 685 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: and have been actually significantly better this regular season thirty 686 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: one and three, first Big East regular season championship since 687 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: O six, first Big East Tournament champions since twenty eleven 688 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: with Kemba Walker. And I was thinking, is is Dan 689 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 2: Hurley like and in his Yukon Are they becoming like 690 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: the new face of college basketball? And I bring it 691 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: up because I will say that Dan Hurley, why why? 692 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: I think it's at least a conversation. It's not just 693 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: that Yukon is winning. It's not even that they're dominant 694 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 2: this year. It's that at Lee in a certain part 695 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: of the country, Dan Hurley does illicit emotion. Like I 696 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: know that in you know, Nashville, Tennessee. I don't think 697 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: people are are walking the streets having Dan Hurley debates. 698 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 2: But I can tell you in Big East country, a 699 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 2: lot of fans don't like him. He's loud, he's brash, 700 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,479 Speaker 2: he's honest. He was you know, he got a tech 701 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: for yelling at a Saint John's fan yesterday. And so 702 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 2: I don't know how I I I don't know exactly 703 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,959 Speaker 2: how I feel about it because on the one hand, 704 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 2: I think I'm too close to it. On the other hand, 705 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: he's winning people don't like him, at least in his conference. 706 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 2: He drives people crazy. As an outsider to both the 707 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 2: Big East and you know, certainly Yukon somebody with a 708 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 2: little bit different perspective. 709 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 3: I'm curious what your thoughts. 710 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: Are on that. I understand where you're coming from. I 711 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: would say we need to back up and slow down 712 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: just a little bit. I think that the door is 713 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: open for them to take that role, but I don't 714 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,439 Speaker 1: think we're there yet. If they win the tournament this year, 715 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: let's have that discussion. Then I don't think you can 716 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: do it yet. They won last year and they're gonna 717 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: enter this tournament I would assume as the number one 718 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: overall seed, so they're gonna have the opportunity to then 719 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: go back to back, and I understand how difficult it 720 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: is to do that, but I feel like, for instance, 721 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: look at Georgia and college football. I don't think that 722 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: we saw them exactly the same way until the second year, 723 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: and so we're seeing that second year right now. But 724 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: they've got to finish this job. If they're able to 725 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: do that, then there's gonna be no doubt about who 726 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: the top program is at this stage because they've been 727 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: able to pull off this thing twice and again. I 728 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: understand how difficult that is, but I think that's when 729 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: the nation takes interest. What you're saying is regionally correct, 730 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: and what you're saying about the Big East problem is 731 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: that just doesn't extend far enough for them to be 732 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: able to fill the void left by the gigantic programs 733 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: of the past, some of which are in pretty good 734 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: places right now and some that certainly are not and 735 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: have dropped off. But if you win too, especially with 736 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: Hurley's more extroverted personality and kind of the way he 737 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: goes about his business, and love him or hate him stuff, 738 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: that's what you need, and that's what you get. You 739 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: get kind of like the Harball effect or something like that. 740 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: That might even be an even better comparison to it. 741 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: I think they got to do it again this year, 742 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: and then I'm more than willing to entertain that discussion. 743 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's one. First of all, I think you're right. 744 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 2: I don't even think it's two. Like, maybe there just 745 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 2: isn't a face of the sport right now. Maybe it 746 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 2: is still Caliperry. I know that there are a lot 747 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 2: of fan bases that seem to enjoy him suffering. I 748 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 2: think when Duke loses, there is still some vitriol and 749 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 2: enjoyment out of seeing them lose, and so maybe there 750 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 2: is no face and if there is, it probably still 751 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 2: is not yet Dan Hurley and Yukon and but you know, 752 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 2: maybe that changes if they win the second national championship 753 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 2: because you know, obviously people tuned into the sport for 754 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 2: the tournament, maybe weren't as familiar last year and knew 755 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 2: he was Bobby Hurley's brother, didn't really know much about him, 756 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 2: if anything beyond that, And so yeah, no, it's it's 757 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 2: just one. Yeah, like I said, I I don't I 758 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 2: don't have a like strong opinion on it, and it's 759 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 2: one that I don't even know that I believe, like 760 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 2: I think, Like I said, I don't think that even 761 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 2: I believe that at this moment in time, he is 762 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 2: that guy. I will say if they do that though, 763 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 2: if they do win, go if they do go back 764 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 2: to back, I do think that becomes And this was 765 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 2: something I was thinking about. I don't think enough people 766 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 2: were talking about that, possibly because it was funny because 767 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 2: Steve Hartman and Manzi were in before before you and I, 768 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 2: and it was immediately you know, I said, Steve Harton 769 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 2: was busting my chops. But it's like I I it's 770 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 2: it was interesting to watch during the season, I felt 771 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 2: like nobody was giving them enough credit for what they 772 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 2: were doing after losing their three players off of last 773 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 2: year's team all in the NBA. Jordan Hawkins was a 774 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 2: lottery pick. He's playing well for the New Orleans Pelicans. 775 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: I felt like the Yukon wasn't getting enough credit, and 776 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 2: it was interesting to see the narrative flip where as 777 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 2: we open the show, everyone is going to be picking them. 778 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 2: I just think it's interesting because, like I said, I 779 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 2: actually thought during the season they didn't get enough credit. 780 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 2: And I think what they're doing is incredible because even 781 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 2: when we've seen teams go back to back, you know, 782 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 2: Duke brought back Latner and Hurley and Grant Hill Florida 783 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 2: brought back their entire starting five, Yukon's doing it with 784 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 2: their three best players off last year's team currently in 785 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 2: the NBA. 786 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's right, and I think that needs to 787 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: be mentioned. I think the thing with the NC DOUBLEA Tournament, 788 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 1: and the reason why Hartman's point is right so often 789 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: is because I don't know that the NC DOUBLEA tournament 790 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: often crowns the best team. It crowns the team that 791 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: has the best run at the time that it matters. 792 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: So just because you're number one, it just positions you 793 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: better for the just war that you're about to have 794 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: to deal with this gauntlet style tournament that just before you, 795 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: before you look up, the entire thing is over. And 796 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 1: I think that's what it is like. It's it's hard 797 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: for me to say, yeah, they need to win to 798 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: become the face. I just don't. I I am of 799 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: the opinion there is no face right now, sure, but 800 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: they're the ones that actually are at the doorstep with 801 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: the opportunity to step through it. It's all completely in 802 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: front of them to do it. I don't think it 803 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: was Florida is until Florida got the second one. I 804 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: think that's what changed it. But they have a golden 805 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: opportunity to do just that over the next three weeks. 806 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 2: No, I think it's I think it's an interesting conversation 807 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 2: and I think, you know, it's gonna be a fun 808 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 2: a fun couple weeks, you know, not just watching them, 809 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 2: but watching this tournament. I do think it is pretty 810 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 2: wide open. I do think It's going to be a 811 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 2: fun tournament. Tell you what, Jason, we still got two 812 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 2: hours up. There's more college hoops to discuss, but you 813 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 2: ready to talk some uh some Justin Fields. 814 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: Man, that is not a story I was expecting today. 815 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,320 Speaker 2: Well we got it today. Justin Fields is a Pittsburgh Steeler. 816 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson is a Pittsburgh Steeler. Kenny Pickett is not 817 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 2: a Pittsburgh Steeler. A lot has changed here over the 818 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 2: last couple months. We're gonna discuss all that, obviously, Jason. 819 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 2: As you know, Kirk Cousins is a richer man than 820 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 2: he was the last time the week came out of here, 821 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 2: a lot richer. Sam Darnold has another job. I'm gonna 822 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 2: lose by voice because I can't keep track of all 823 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 2: this stuff. Pittsburgh's got got two quarterbacks that nobody wanted 824 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: a week ago. You know, Kirk Cousins has so much 825 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 2: money he doesn't know what to do with Sam Darnold's 826 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 2: other job. There is so much to discuss. That's next. 827 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. 828 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody our two Fox Sports Radio Ertorius Jason 829 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live from the Tireraq dot Com studios. 830 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 3: Tyreck dot com. 831 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 2: We'll help you get there and unmatched election, fast free shipping, 832 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: free road as a protection, and over ten thousand recommend 833 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 2: installers tyre rack dot com. The way tire buying should be. 834 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 2: It is officially selection Sunday on the East Coast. We 835 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 2: will have a bracket in Oh what about let's do 836 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 2: some math here? What eighteen hours from now? But we 837 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 2: got to talk to football here, Jason, because football never sleeps. 838 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 3: The NFL is. 839 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 2: King, and I think the pseudo final domino that we 840 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 2: were waiting to drop did drop, and it was that 841 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 2: Justin Fields is a Pittsburgh Steeler. By now everybody knows, 842 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 2: I know, Steve Hartman and Matzi before us talked a 843 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 2: lot about this in their show. But Justin Fields traded 844 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 2: to the Pittsburgh Steelers for a sixth round pick that 845 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 2: becomes a fourth round pick if he plays over fifty 846 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 2: one percent of the snaps next season for the Pittsburgh Steelers. However, 847 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 2: Courtney Cronin and I saw from ESPN was reporting that 848 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 2: the plan is to let Russell Wilson be the starter 849 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 2: next year, Justin Fields be the backup. And there's a 850 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 2: lot to discuss here, Jason. But what do you make 851 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 2: of the big movie? And it's worth noting. I think 852 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 2: everybody listening would know this, but Kenny Pickett was in 853 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 2: fact traded yesterday to the Philadelphia Eagles. So now Justin 854 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 2: Field's in to backup Russell wilson with the Pittsburgh Steelers. 855 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: Kind of blew me away. I just didn't see it 856 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: coming when you kind of look and read. You mentioned 857 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: Courtney Corona and she also said I think there were 858 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: five teams in addition to the Stewers that have reached 859 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: out to the Bears, and almost all of them wanted 860 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 1: him as a backup quarterback. You know, that was kind 861 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: of baffling. And the idea is, yes, Russell Wilson starts 862 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,439 Speaker 1: and they say Justin Field sits behind and learns from 863 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: the nine time pro bowler. I'm just like, you want 864 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 1: to learn from Russell Wilson. Now, it's they're similar in style, right, 865 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: like they they're both mobile. Justin Field's ability is incredible. 866 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: But I think what I saw just before we came 867 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: back here is that those two guys were second and 868 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: third in the league in longest amount of time with 869 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: the ball in their hands before getting rid of it 870 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: last year, Like fields held onto the ball too long. 871 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 1: That drove Bears fans nuts. I think it drove some 872 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: of the coaching staff nuts as well. So but you're 873 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,720 Speaker 1: not going to necessarily get better at that because Russ 874 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: has had that same problem, especially over the last couple 875 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: of years. But you do get a twenty five year 876 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: old who maybe he can flourish. I don't know. It's 877 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: an interesting play because you've got Russell Wilson for peanuts. 878 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: You're gonna have like a mill and a half and 879 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna pay justin fields if you're Pittsburgh, a little 880 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: over three million. And then I think one of the 881 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: things Aaron that scared off some of these teams is 882 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: that you're supposedly going to have to make a decision 883 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: on him before May first as to whether or not 884 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: you're gonna pay him twenty five million dollars or not, 885 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 1: and you're not gonna, at that point in time have 886 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: even seen him throw the football for your team. I 887 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: think what you will see is Pittsburgh won't pick up 888 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 1: the fifth year option, and then they'll be in a 889 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 1: scenario next year where they can do something. But it 890 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: does give them some flexibility because if Russ stinks it 891 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: up and he just can't get it done anymore. You 892 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: do have somebody you could put there faster, or if 893 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: he gets hurt, then you have a more than capable backup, 894 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: one would think. And you also potentially have a scenario 895 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: where and I haven't seen this anywhere, but this is 896 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: immediately what I thought. It's like this shrewd move because 897 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,959 Speaker 1: especially like if you really want to get conspiratorial, maybe 898 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: you get Russ simply so that the Bears don't have 899 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: that much leverage on you anymore. It's like, hey, man, 900 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: we'd really like to have justin fields, but if we 901 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: got a roll with Russ, we'll roll with Russ. So 902 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: here's what we can offer you. And clearly there weren't 903 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,280 Speaker 1: a lot of better offers out there. But I also 904 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: think that you give yourself potentially capital here because we're 905 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: gonna see quarterbacks get injured this year. It's just going 906 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: to happen. So what team that might still have a 907 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: shot at the playoffs might have this might actually call 908 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh up about justin fields, and maybe you're looking at that. 909 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what you do. There's a myriad of 910 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: different options. I think if you're a Bears fan, you 911 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: have to wonder this is all this is what you 912 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: could get. I think the market for Justin Fields was 913 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: much smaller than some thought, especially as a starting quarterback, 914 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 1: and you started to see some of these quarterback dominoes 915 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: fall prior to that, and the more time that passed 916 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: without Fields being signed, the less that the Bears were 917 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: going to get because clearly some teams had made had 918 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,320 Speaker 1: made judgments that he was not going to be their answer. 919 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 3: Well, what I'll say a couple of things. 920 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 2: One, the market was much smaller, and I know that 921 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 2: on last week's show, when when we thought that the 922 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 2: Falcons seemed to be leaning in the Kirk Cousins direction, 923 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 2: I know that I was a little bit critical of 924 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 2: it and say, you know, do you roll the dice 925 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 2: with one year of Justin Fields to see if he 926 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 2: still got it. But we'll talk about Kirk Cousins here 927 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 2: in a few minutes. But I think from the Justin 928 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 2: Fields perspective, I get it. From all sides, won the 929 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 2: market wasn't that big. From the Atlanta perspective, you have 930 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 2: the tools to win right away. Go get the veteran, 931 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 2: which again we'll talk about Kirk Cousins in a second. 932 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 2: But for Justin Fields, let me also say this is 933 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 2: that you know I've talked about this a million times, 934 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 2: including with you, is that I get why we rush 935 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 2: our young quarterbacks out there as soon as they're drafted. 936 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 2: You know, guy on a rookie contract. The most valuable 937 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 2: thing and maybe all of sports is a star quarterback 938 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 2: on a rookie contract. 939 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 3: I mean, it just is, and so I get it. 940 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 2: But I also wonder how many guys would have their 941 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 2: careers would have been different if they just had a 942 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 2: little bit more time. Like I know, there's only one 943 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. I don't think it hurt him sitting for 944 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 2: a year behind Alex Smith and learning the position. You know, 945 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 2: the same with the same with Lamar Jackson, who really 946 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 2: wasn't called in the action as rookie year. There's plenty 947 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 2: of guys that are having success that that were called 948 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 2: in action. Joe Burrow was one. You know, you go 949 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 2: on and on down list whatever. I just wonder if 950 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 2: you know you can do the hard reset with Justin Fields, 951 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 2: where it is learn the playbook. I know, Russ, you 952 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 2: know we've we've all read the stories about you know, 953 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 2: what kind of teammate he is, and what kind of 954 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 2: guy he is in the locker room. But he's kind 955 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,479 Speaker 2: of like this is the last chance saloon for him too. 956 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 2: And and I don't know if he'll ever be a 957 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 2: you know, uh, you know, the most popular player in 958 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 2: the locker room, but like he's kind of got to 959 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 2: fall in line, he's kind of got to be a leader. 960 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 2: He's kind of got to you know, put aside whatever 961 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 2: ego that he has and making it all about Russ. 962 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 2: And so I just love this for Justin Fields, not 963 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 2: because it's definitely gonna work, but because he is in 964 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,760 Speaker 2: a position now where the weight of the world isn't 965 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 2: on his shoulders, that he will be in a place 966 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 2: where he could just take his time, learn the playbook, 967 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,280 Speaker 2: not be called into action, at least not right away, 968 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 2: and that maybe there is a chance that his career 969 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 2: is salvagable because we know the tools are there. 970 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 3: We've seen it in flashes. 971 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 2: Now obviously, look, you know, defensive head coach, you know, 972 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin isn't exactly at the forefront of quarterback development. 973 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 2: But I like that he has this kind of reboot 974 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 2: where again, oh, by the way, he's not going to 975 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 2: Atlanta where he'd be thrown into the fire. He's not 976 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,919 Speaker 2: going to Minnesota where he'd have to start right away. 977 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 2: He's not going to Seattle where he'd have to start 978 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 2: right away. Don't know if it's going to work, but 979 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 2: I am interested for him, and I do sort of 980 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 2: hope for him that he has the time to take 981 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 2: a step back and kind of redevelop that way. 982 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that he's definitely somebody that 983 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: could have benefited from not being thrown into the fire 984 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: too soon, no question about that. Some guys are more 985 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: equipped for that than others. He is someone that I 986 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: think there was a lot of potential, And the question 987 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,879 Speaker 1: is has there been anything that's been burned that can't 988 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 1: come back because of the experience just being rather poor. Now, 989 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,760 Speaker 1: this past season showed some flashes, but it was there. 990 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,840 Speaker 1: There were a lot of minuses there, and there wasn't 991 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: necessarily the right framework around him that was going to 992 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 1: facilitate him being in a best situation. Like even though 993 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 1: there were some rough edges for for instance, like a 994 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, he was in a pretty good brain trust 995 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 1: and things were moving in the right direction. Now it 996 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: looks like it's moving better for the Bears with some 997 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 1: of the moves that they are making. But he may 998 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: have been a casualty of that. And I do think that, 999 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 1: and we've talked about this before, Aaron, it wasn't normal 1000 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: for most of these early draft pick quarterbacks to go 1001 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,879 Speaker 1: on the field as early as they are regularly. Now 1002 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 1: they're expected to go in almost immediately because they're going to, 1003 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, franchises that are really struggling. But the biggest 1004 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,879 Speaker 1: problem for a lot of them is that usually if 1005 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 1: you stink, your offensive line stinks. So let's say you're 1006 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: a terrible team and you draft a great quarterback, but 1007 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: you can't block for the guy and he's trying to 1008 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 1: learn the NFL game and how it differs, you know, 1009 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 1: what challenges erupt on the pro level that maybe weren't 1010 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,919 Speaker 1: true on campus. All of that makes it that much 1011 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,720 Speaker 1: more difficult if your skill set is more a little 1012 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: bit more raw. So I look at a guy like 1013 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 1: him and hope that he's not a casualty of that. 1014 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 1: I think we've seen some guys that have been thrown 1015 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,800 Speaker 1: into the fire too much because the expectation has changed. 1016 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: The question is just is he going to be cool 1017 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: From a mental standpoint, sitting behind somebody because he's already 1018 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: done the other thing. As long as his attitude is 1019 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: as it should be. As long as and this is 1020 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 1: true for russ too. On the other side, being a 1021 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 1: leader like you mentioned, but Justin Fields has got to 1022 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 1: be dialed into the fact that I'm going to be 1023 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: the I'm going to soak up everything that I can, 1024 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: what I can get, what I can learn. He's in 1025 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 1: a good organization with an excellent head coach, one of 1026 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: the best ownership groups in the entire NFL. He's going 1027 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: to have the support that he needs, and maybe he's 1028 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 1: going to have a veteran guy that does see an 1029 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 1: opportunity here to enhance his legacy in that way as 1030 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: well in terms of leadership. If his attitude is right, 1031 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: I like what this could be. It's also if you're Pittsburgh, 1032 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: it's just a really low risk move that could potentially 1033 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 1: really put you in a good spot long term. Because 1034 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: we all know that Russell Wilson is more you know, 1035 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: the fix the flat than he is the brand new tire. 1036 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 2: No, there's no doubt about that. And I think, to me, listen, 1037 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 2: I don't know either of these guys. Obviously, I don't 1038 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 2: have a personal relationship with either of them. I only 1039 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 2: know what I read and what I see and what 1040 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,360 Speaker 2: former teammates say. I actually think I'm more worried about 1041 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 2: is Russ gonna be a good soldier? Is he gonna 1042 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 2: be a you know, sort of the half. Hey, I'm 1043 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 2: here to win, but at the same time, I'm sort 1044 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 2: of here to mentor him as well. I'm kind of 1045 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 2: more worried about that than I am Justin Fields being 1046 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 2: a good soldier. And I could be one hundred percent 1047 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 2: wrong on that, but I think for Justin Fields, like 1048 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 2: you said, after you got beat up for the last 1049 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 2: four or five years or whatever, three years, four years, 1050 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 2: whatever it is, I don't think this is the worst thing. 1051 00:51:59,080 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 5: Now. 1052 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point, you know. 1053 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,360 Speaker 2: Obviously, outside of that first year at Georgia, he's probably 1054 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,240 Speaker 2: been a starter pretty much every year of his entire 1055 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 2: since he's been playing football. But yeah, I just I 1056 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 2: think it's a really cool move. And I think what 1057 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 2: you said that the end is important is assuming that 1058 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 2: he doesn't become a trade chip, which I don't think 1059 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 2: he would be unless Russ balls out, which I don't 1060 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 2: think any of us think that is necessarily gonna happen either. 1061 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 2: I also just think it's a really interesting idea. It's 1062 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 2: almost like when when Trey Lance was traded to the Cowboys. 1063 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 2: And maybe, and maybe that's not even a perfect analogy either, 1064 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 2: because Dak is more kind of closer to the middle 1065 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 2: of his prime than Russell Wilson is. So I don't 1066 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 2: know if there is an analogy, but I love the 1067 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 2: idea of Hey, even if it works with us. I mean, 1068 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 2: this is a guy that's now what he's like. I 1069 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 2: think he's thirty, gonna be thirty six this year, thirty five. Like, 1070 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 2: even if it somehow works and we get some version 1071 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,359 Speaker 2: of the guy that was really really, really good, it's 1072 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,399 Speaker 2: not a seven eight year thing. So let this guy sit, 1073 00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 2: let this guy develop. And yeah, I'm just I'm one 1074 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 2: of anything. I'm curious to see how it goes. I 1075 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 2: think Pittsburgh becomes interesting with with both of them, and 1076 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,359 Speaker 2: and and I I think it'd be very interesting if 1077 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 2: he can develop. But I think it'll just be interesting 1078 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 2: because again it'll be it'll be I know I keep 1079 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 2: saying the word interesting, but I think it'll be interesting. 1080 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 2: From this perspective, is are these guys after they get 1081 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 2: beat up for two, three, four years. 1082 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,320 Speaker 3: Are they salvageable. 1083 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 2: Or or is it just you know, like once you 1084 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 2: get your brains beat in for too long, it's just 1085 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 2: tough to overcome. I don't know the answer, but I 1086 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,399 Speaker 2: would love I think I could see the scenario where 1087 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 2: it works with Russell Wilson for a year or two 1088 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 2: as much as it possibly can, and then Justin Fields 1089 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 2: comes in and he's a new man having been able 1090 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 2: to sit back and relax for a couple of years. 1091 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 1: Jason, and then and then on a flip side, just 1092 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: looking at it from Chicago's standpoint, you see, you know, 1093 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: you bring in Keenan Allen, You're doing some things to 1094 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,919 Speaker 1: bring in some other talent. Any doubt in your mind 1095 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 1: is going to be Caleb, Like do you think did 1096 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,439 Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels there's a shot at him at number one? 1097 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 1: I've just closed the book, and just I feel like 1098 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 1: it's going to be Kaleb Williams. Whether or not you 1099 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 1: want to put out seventeen thousand red flags in various 1100 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 1: articles or comment sections or all this, I just think 1101 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,280 Speaker 1: it's Kaleb Williams. I think that's the no brain remove 1102 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 1: And I think what I think that's what's gonna happen. 1103 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, this probably makes it even I mean, we knew 1104 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,439 Speaker 2: just Fields was going, but you know, I did throw 1105 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 2: out my half bake theory of Washington flopping with it, 1106 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 2: flipping with the number one pick in Chicago going number 1107 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 2: two and taking either Jayden Daniels. 1108 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 3: Or Drake May. 1109 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I think it'll I still think it'll 1110 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 2: probably be Kayleb Williams. It'll be interesting as we get 1111 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 2: close with the draft again. Like I said two three 1112 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 2: weeks ago, whenever we talked about it, Caleb Williams can 1113 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 2: say all of the right things. His actions seem to 1114 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,880 Speaker 2: indicate or the actions of his camp seem to indicate 1115 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 2: that he's not very excited about going to Chicago. So 1116 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 2: if it keep, what I would say is the Bears 1117 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 2: will have a rookie quarterback next year. I don't see 1118 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 2: a scenario, especially with all the guys that went off 1119 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 2: the board this week, where they're not drafting a quarterback 1120 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 2: the first round and that guy is what will be 1121 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 2: the starter on opening Day. And really, all I'll say 1122 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 2: is this is Caleb Williams has never pulled an Eli 1123 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,319 Speaker 2: Manning and said I refuse to play there. So my 1124 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,399 Speaker 2: hunch is that he is the guy, and I think 1125 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 2: the only scenario where they trade that pick is if 1126 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 2: it goes to like number two or number three, and 1127 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 2: I you know, and I think to makes sense because 1128 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 2: Washington is Caleb williams hometown. But the question is is 1129 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 2: Washington going to give up the kind of capital that 1130 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 2: they got to give up to move up one spot 1131 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,399 Speaker 2: that I don't know. But Jason, that was a very 1132 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 2: long winded answer to your question. I would say seventy 1133 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 2: eight percent that Caleb Williams is the guy, twenty two 1134 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 2: percent that they trade the pick to Washington, and that 1135 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,399 Speaker 2: Washington is willing to give up that arm and leg 1136 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 2: to get the hometown hero to be their starting quarterbacks. 1137 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think there's been some trends at 1138 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 1: free agency, and well, we'll talk more about them a 1139 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,920 Speaker 1: little bit later on in the show. For sure, there 1140 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: have been some things that have been real interesting about 1141 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 1: certain positions and how they've been favored or not favored 1142 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:02,799 Speaker 1: over the first week. 1143 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. 1144 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,920 Speaker 2: Jason will come back and we will continue that conversation 1145 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,959 Speaker 2: everybody's talking about that Kirk Cousins contract from earlier this week. 1146 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 2: Tell you what Jason, that wasn't the strangest thing that 1147 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,439 Speaker 2: happened on the quarterback market. 1148 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,720 Speaker 3: We'll discuss all that next Fox Sports Radio. 1149 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Tors, Jason Martin 1150 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 2: broadcasting that I from the Tireck dot Com Studios. Pimp, No, 1151 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 2: its a pimp Kirk Cousins. Baby, this guy another monster 1152 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,320 Speaker 2: contract for Kirk Cousins. 1153 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 3: Listen. I know it's four or five days old at 1154 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:42,400 Speaker 3: this point. 1155 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 2: I know that everybody on the network has talked about 1156 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 2: it and done a great job in doing so. But 1157 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins the four year deal with the Atlanta Falcons. 1158 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 2: I believe the number that I heard was that he 1159 00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:01,280 Speaker 2: will have cleared over three hundred and fifty million dollars 1160 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 2: by the time his contract with the Falcons is done. Jason, 1161 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 2: I remember, I remember last week we were talking like 1162 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 2: you know, I had seen I think it was Field 1163 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 2: Yates put out a report that he was hearing like 1164 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 2: two years at one hundred million when you factor in 1165 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,440 Speaker 2: bonuses and everything and signing bonuses. Kirk Cousins the four 1166 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 2: year deal one hundred eighty million dollars. 1167 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 3: Jason Martin. The Flora is yours by friend the flora 1168 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 3: is yours? 1169 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 1: Good for him? Really, he has bet on himself repeatedly 1170 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 1: and he's just been great in terms of negotiating and 1171 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 1: being in the right place at the right time. He 1172 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody thinks he's other worldly a quarterback. 1173 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: But I also think that when you think of Kirk Cousins, 1174 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: you say, hey, he's pretty good. Like there are some 1175 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 1: times where he really can why you with throws, and 1176 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 1: he could really impress you with throws, and certainly of 1177 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 1: everybody that was available here, he was the guy that 1178 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 1: was the one that you could bring in and win 1179 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: with immediately. Now how much you can win, we'll find out. 1180 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 1: And he's coming off an injury in his mid thirties, 1181 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 1: which also is something to be questioning. I'm not his 1182 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 1: big as fan when it comes to what I think 1183 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 1: he can do on the field in terms of top 1184 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 1: flight I remember doing a ranking years ago of the 1185 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: six people in sports I thought were the most overrated, 1186 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 1: and he was one of them. But I also qualified 1187 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 1: that by saying overrated in terms of where he's hyped 1188 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 1: to be, not that he's not good. So Kirk Cousins 1189 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 1: is really good? Is he somebody that we should be 1190 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 1: talking about in terms of that kind of bank that 1191 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 1: he's made. I mean, maybe not on paper. But here's 1192 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 1: the thing, Aaron, and I know you agree with this. 1193 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 1: If somebody's willing to pay him that, then yeah, he's 1194 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 1: worth that. Like if he can get somebody to pay 1195 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 1: him that, then good for him. I just look at 1196 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 1: it and say, the careers can be rather short, they 1197 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 1: could be rather painful, they can be rather punishing. Kirk 1198 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 1: Cousins has he's played the system exactly right multiple times. 1199 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 1: He went to Minnesota and I thought he did a 1200 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 1: very nice job for them. I think they overpaid for 1201 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 1: him when they got him, Yes, but I think that 1202 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: they got a lot out of kirk Cousins. I don't 1203 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 1: think he was I don't think he was the reason 1204 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 1: for your failure. If you're a Minnesota Vikings fan, there 1205 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 1: is a there's a tier, and i'd put him somewhere 1206 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 1: in the low two to high three range. Is that 1207 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 1: worth what he's getting paid. Maybe not, But you got 1208 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 1: to do something. If you're the Atlanta Falcons with a 1209 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 1: new head coach, so you bring in somebody with a 1210 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 1: little bit of familiarity with him from times in the past, 1211 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,400 Speaker 1: and you bring in a guy that you know can 1212 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: throw the football, has a solid football like you, has 1213 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 1: a lot of experience in the league, and you go 1214 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 1: from what you've had, which is, I don't know what 1215 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 1: we got with Desmond Ritter or something like that. You 1216 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 1: move to the exact opposite, somebody with a lot of experience, 1217 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 1: that knows a lot, and you hope that he's able 1218 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 1: to kind of give you a couple of good years 1219 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 1: to finish off his career. 1220 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, first of all, I agree with the idea 1221 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 2: of you you're worth what somebody's willing to pay you. 1222 00:59:58,280 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 2: You know, it's the same. It's the same with any 1223 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it's the same with nil in college sports. 1224 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,440 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, some people think it's crazy to 1225 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 2: pay an unproven high school player, however much they're getting 1226 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 2: an nil. And if a Texas A and M Booster 1227 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 2: and Ohio State booster wants to do it, who am 1228 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:11,320 Speaker 2: I to say? 1229 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 7: No. 1230 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 2: Let me just ask you this, Jason about Kirk Cousins, 1231 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 2: because you know, I guess my thought on him, and 1232 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 2: I said this in the Justin Fields segment a minute ago. 1233 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 3: It has changed. 1234 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is this is that 1235 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 2: last week I think I advocated for, hey, Justin Fields, 1236 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 2: go with him for one year because he's still on 1237 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 2: that rookie contract and you basically get a you know, 1238 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 2: you get a relatively cheap and I know, as you said, 1239 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 2: the contract kind of kicks in overdrive here in the 1240 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 2: next couple of months, but like, you get one year 1241 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 2: to really figure out if he's the guy. He's in 1242 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 2: his hometown in a weak division, and if he's not, 1243 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 2: you know, you get to start over. But I was 1244 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 2: thinking about this because I also think that I have 1245 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 2: learned a lesson about quarterbacks and coaches and this and that, 1246 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 2: and I used this analogy last week, and I really 1247 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 2: thought about it over the last couple of days. I 1248 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 2: think the Matt Rule experience in Carolina changed my perspective 1249 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 2: and why I am okay with the Atlanta Falcons choosing 1250 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 2: lower ceiling Kirk Cousins versus Justin Field. Wo Yes, if 1251 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 2: it all clicks could have upsides. So I bring up 1252 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,040 Speaker 2: Matt Rule because I remember when he took over the 1253 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 2: Carolina job. You know, it's easy to forget. Now everybody 1254 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 2: wanted that guy. Now you and I have discussed should 1255 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 2: he have been that out of a candidate whatever he was. 1256 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 2: But in year one, it was like, well, you know, 1257 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 2: we don't really have our guy. We're gonna go with 1258 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater. If it doesn't work out, we'll figure it out, 1259 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 2: we'll go get you know, we'll draft somebody whatever. Teddy 1260 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 2: Bridgewater doesn't really work out. I think there were some 1261 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 2: injuries whatever. The year two, it's like, well, we're gonna 1262 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,760 Speaker 2: give Sam Donald another chance. And then all of a sudden, 1263 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 2: Sam Donald doesn't work. You're going into year three, you 1264 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 2: still don't have a quarterback. You don't want to draft 1265 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 2: a rookie. I think that was the year that Kenny Pickett, 1266 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 2: ironically enough, was the only quarterback that went in the 1267 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 2: first round. It was a bad quarterback class. Now all 1268 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 2: of a sudden, you're going into year three, don't want anything. 1269 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 2: You haven't found your quarterback, you don't even have a 1270 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 2: young guy that you believe in, and boom, just like that, 1271 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 2: Matt careers, NFL, Matt rules, NFL career is over. And 1272 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,880 Speaker 2: so I just bring it up because I think that 1273 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,920 Speaker 2: taught me that it's easy to say, hey, Raheem Morris, 1274 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 2: new head coach. 1275 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 3: I'll have time to figure it out. 1276 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 2: And if Justin Fields doesn't work in year one, then whatever, 1277 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,520 Speaker 2: you know, they'll just they'll it'll, they'll draft somebody next year. 1278 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 2: What if next year's class isn't good? What if they 1279 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 2: win just enough where they're not in position to take 1280 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,480 Speaker 2: a quarterback. So that's a very long winded way of 1281 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 2: me just saying that I'm okay with the kirk Cousins 1282 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 2: decision because there is a baseline floor of what you 1283 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 2: will be with him. And then, as I know many 1284 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 2: others have brought up, obviously the young offensive skill talent 1285 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 2: is there where if you have an adult in the room, 1286 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 2: a guy that you know is gonna come in, know's 1287 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 2: gonna put in the work, they have a chance to 1288 01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:55,160 Speaker 2: do some big things because of Bijon Robinson, Uhdrake Drake John, 1289 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 2: Drake Jackson, Drake London Okay, Drake Jackson is the defensive line, 1290 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 2: and of course you know all the other guys they 1291 01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 2: have there. So that's the long winning way of me 1292 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 2: asking you did you have a problem with them choosing 1293 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins over Justin Fields, Because the more I thought 1294 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 2: about it this week, the more I was okay with it. 1295 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 3: Even though the money is obviously a little bit insane. 1296 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 4: No. 1297 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 1: I mean again, he's a proven commodity, but they were 1298 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 1: a pretty good football team last year that were rudderless 1299 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 1: in many respects when it came to the offense from 1300 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback position. There were just too many mistakes made. 1301 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 1: There were too many missed plays and things like that. 1302 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 1: You hate to say that about somebody, but it just 1303 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,040 Speaker 1: the play wasn't up to snuff and they couldn't seemingly 1304 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 1: decide on anything, which I think is one of the 1305 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,440 Speaker 1: reasons Arthur Smith lost his position because it just didn't 1306 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 1: look like there was a philosophy that made sense and 1307 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 1: they didn't utilize by John Robinson the way that they should. 1308 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 1: The key here is it may be a lower ceiling, 1309 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of the ceiling for Justin Fields 1310 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 1: that is dependent upon potential, not anything we've actually seen. 1311 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of mystery to what you're going 1312 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,080 Speaker 1: to get from Justin Fields. It could be if it's 1313 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 1: at its best, yes, it's going to be higher than 1314 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,560 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, but the floor is the crucial point. If 1315 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,800 Speaker 1: you have a pretty good football team, then you need 1316 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback that can keep you from letting all of 1317 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,040 Speaker 1: that be squandered, and Kirk Cousins, even if he goes 1318 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,840 Speaker 1: in there and he's relatively mediocre, we're talking about a 1319 01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,320 Speaker 1: guy who in Minnesota through one hundred and seventy one 1320 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:29,680 Speaker 1: touchdowns and fifty five interceptions, but he had a sixty 1321 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,200 Speaker 1: eight percent completion percentage. He's a guy that can be 1322 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,960 Speaker 1: deadly accurate, and he's a guy that stands up and 1323 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 1: he throws the football exactly where it needs to go. 1324 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 1: So if you believe in Drake London and you still 1325 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 1: think that Kyle Pitts can be something, and you like 1326 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 1: Bjon Robinson, then you are bringing a guy in that 1327 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 1: is capable of utilizing those weapons from moment one. And 1328 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 1: because it's definitely a win now mode, whoever's going to 1329 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,320 Speaker 1: get Kirk Cousins, it's win now. It's not winning five 1330 01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 1: years or even looking down the three year pathway, but 1331 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 1: with Kirk, with Kirk Cousins, it puts you in position, 1332 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,520 Speaker 1: especially in a division that's still rather weak, let's just 1333 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:12,919 Speaker 1: be honest to get yourself into the playoffs this coming year. 1334 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,960 Speaker 2: Very interesting stuff on Kirk Cousins and where I want 1335 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 2: to go next. Jason is the place he just left 1336 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 2: because as egregious as that Kirk Cousins contract is. I 1337 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,720 Speaker 2: think much something much more egregious happened on the quarterback 1338 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 2: market this week. We'll discuss all that next. Before we do, 1339 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 2: let's toss it over the news desk to Sega. What 1340 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 2: is trending? 1341 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 7: Oh? 1342 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 6: You want contract news, I've got it for you. In 1343 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 6: college basketball, first off, what might be our stat of 1344 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 6: the night. We talked earlier about NC State's incredible run 1345 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 6: to the ACC Tournament championship, winning the final over fourth 1346 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,280 Speaker 6: ran North Carolina tonight eighty four seventy six there in DC, 1347 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,479 Speaker 6: the wolf Pack with five wins in five days there 1348 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:55,200 Speaker 6: this week, it's been pointed out that the Washington Wizards 1349 01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,280 Speaker 6: of the NBA have a home record of four and 1350 01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,960 Speaker 6: twenty six. Therefore, NC State had more wins this week 1351 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 6: then the Wizards have had the entire seasons at home. 1352 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 6: And it's been posted part of the contract for the 1353 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 6: NC State coach Kevin Keats, who signed through twenty twenty six, 1354 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 6: this agreement shall be extended automatically for two years with 1355 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 6: an ACC Tournament championship in any contract is on the 1356 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 6: lvil ship congratulations. On top of that, it's on this 1357 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,400 Speaker 6: list of things that he can get. Any Round of 1358 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:33,440 Speaker 6: sixteen appearance is a one year extension, so stay tuned, 1359 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 6: ladies and gentlemen. Well, it was an NC State win 1360 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,160 Speaker 6: to take the ACC crown and an Oregon victory to 1361 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,480 Speaker 6: take the PAC twelve final tonight in Vegas over Colorado 1362 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 6: seventy five sixty eight, So bubble teams like Saint John's 1363 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 6: and Virginia might not be getting in tomorrow. Selection Sunday 1364 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 6: is tomorrow for the NCAA Tournament. For sure, the Ducks 1365 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 6: and the Wolfpack are in, and it looks like Yukun's 1366 01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 6: going to be seated number one overall, ranked number two 1367 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 6: this week, Connecticut beat Marquette right tenth in the Big 1368 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 6: East Finals seventy three fifty seven. 1369 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 1: Number one. 1370 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,280 Speaker 6: Houston got blitzed by number seven Iowa State in the 1371 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:14,040 Speaker 6: Big twelve Final sixty nine to forty one. You talked 1372 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 6: about the Long Beach State head coach Dan Monson. He 1373 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,720 Speaker 6: leads Long Beach State to the NCAA Tournament with this 1374 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,440 Speaker 6: run to the Big West Final and then winning the 1375 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 6: tournament championship tonight over UC Davis seventy four to seventy. 1376 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 6: He was interviewed after the game. Here's a coach who's 1377 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,800 Speaker 6: allowed to finish out the season and he's going to 1378 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:40,080 Speaker 6: the NCAAs the interview on ESPN two right after this 1379 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 6: win tonight. 1380 01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,680 Speaker 7: God is blessed her with a great career and these 1381 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:49,120 Speaker 7: kids have been awesome the coach. And when Jim Harborough says, 1382 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 7: who's got it better than him? 1383 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:52,920 Speaker 1: Somebody needs to tell him Dan Munson. 1384 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 6: Of course, Jim Harbo in the LA area as well 1385 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 6: with the Chargers. By the way, Dan Monson's dad, Don Monson, 1386 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 6: was a college basketball coach for years. Was the Oregon 1387 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 6: hoops coach for about a decade through nineteen ninety two. 1388 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,680 Speaker 6: His dad, Don was a Michigan State assistant that helped 1389 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,080 Speaker 6: recruit Magic Johnson to the Spartans. Just for the record, 1390 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 6: in the late nineteen seventies, we've got conference final victories 1391 01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 6: for New Mexico, Vermont for Akron, and Saint Peter's wins 1392 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 6: for Howard and Western Kentucky victories for Grambling. And we'll 1393 01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,559 Speaker 6: see about the last one because the whack Conference Final 1394 01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,040 Speaker 6: is at halftime. Grand Canyon, with an overall record of 1395 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 6: twenty eight and four, is leading U T Arlington tonight 1396 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,600 Speaker 6: in the late game thirty six to thirty two. The 1397 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,559 Speaker 6: late game in the NBA is now final. New York's 1398 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,080 Speaker 6: Jalen Brunson with forty two points in a victory at 1399 01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:52,360 Speaker 6: Sacramento ninety eight ninety one. Minnesota and Oklahoma City each 1400 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 6: one again each on the road, and Golden State got 1401 01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 6: a win at the Lakers one twenty eight one twenty 1402 01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 6: one despite forty points from lebron James Davis with an 1403 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 6: eye injury left after the first quarter for LA. The 1404 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,640 Speaker 6: Bears traded quarterback Justin Fields to the Pittsburgh Steelers. And 1405 01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 6: the Dodgers are playing their first exhibition in Soul tonight 1406 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:15,599 Speaker 6: against a Korean pro club, and it's the regular Dodger lineup, 1407 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 6: which means the top three in the order are Mookie 1408 01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,479 Speaker 6: Batts now starting shortstop, and then show Hey Otani the 1409 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,640 Speaker 6: DH d for a couple of at bats and he 1410 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,840 Speaker 6: struck out twice and now he's out of the game. 1411 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 6: And then Freddie Freeman batting third. Freeman hit a first 1412 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,120 Speaker 6: inning solo home run tonight, estimated to go almost four 1413 01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 6: hundred and fifty feet. 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You can 1437 01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,080 Speaker 2: go to Fox Sports Radio dot Com and fill out 1438 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:39,759 Speaker 2: your bracket. 1439 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:40,080 Speaker 3: Now. 1440 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,799 Speaker 2: We'll have Disaga back here in just a few minutes 1441 01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,760 Speaker 2: for his extended update. But Jason, as I teased before 1442 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:50,439 Speaker 2: we got to the Sager, as crazy as that Kirk 1443 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:54,160 Speaker 2: Cousins contract was, I think the craziest thing is that 1444 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,880 Speaker 2: somebody still believes that Sam Donold maybe an NFL starting quarterback. Now, 1445 01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,200 Speaker 2: maybe Minnesota's plan is to draft some I don't know. 1446 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 2: We will see, but if Sam Donald is, let me 1447 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,479 Speaker 2: put this way, sam Donald is not the answer. I 1448 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,760 Speaker 2: don't know if they think he is, but I know 1449 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,200 Speaker 2: the answer to that question. That's one of the answers 1450 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,479 Speaker 2: that I got to the test before it before we 1451 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,800 Speaker 2: even got the test, he has got a starting NFL 1452 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,400 Speaker 2: quarterback yet here Sam Donald is, he's gonna be wearing 1453 01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,560 Speaker 2: the purple and white Minnesota Vikings. 1454 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,719 Speaker 3: Just just don't get it, Jason Martin. 1455 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:31,320 Speaker 1: I don't either, Especially what was eleven million dollars that 1456 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,040 Speaker 1: they're paying him, Like, and you'd said maybe they're gonna 1457 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,760 Speaker 1: draft somebody, right then, why pay him eleven million dollars? 1458 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 1: Like there's no need to make this move. I was 1459 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,880 Speaker 1: totally wrong about Sam Donald coming out of USC. I 1460 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,320 Speaker 1: was really sold on him. I thought he was gonna 1461 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,720 Speaker 1: be stellar. Now I don't know if the situation that 1462 01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 1: he found himself in with the Jets. We talked about 1463 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,240 Speaker 1: Justin fields hopefully not being a casualty. I feel like 1464 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,080 Speaker 1: Sam Donald definitely lost something up there that maybe he 1465 01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:00,320 Speaker 1: never recovered. But you know, he may have also then 1466 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,400 Speaker 1: not what we thought he was gonna be once he 1467 01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:07,120 Speaker 1: got to that level. But gosh, if you're a Vikings fan, 1468 01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,040 Speaker 1: what are you looking at now? Because you recall that 1469 01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson talked about how he didn't want to sign 1470 01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,960 Speaker 1: long term yet because he wanted to see what the 1471 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,880 Speaker 1: Vikings plan was at quarterback. Let me suggest that if 1472 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:24,920 Speaker 1: the plan is Sam Darnold, sure, Justin Jefferson's gonna be 1473 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,960 Speaker 1: wearing a different uniform pretty soon. And you look at 1474 01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,680 Speaker 1: the makeup of that team and where it was a 1475 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,840 Speaker 1: couple of years ago and what we're looking at right now, 1476 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,320 Speaker 1: especially had division, I mean Detroit, we know what Detroit is. 1477 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,160 Speaker 1: Chicago's going to take a big time swing with the 1478 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,360 Speaker 1: number one pick, and then Green Bay is ahead of 1479 01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:48,360 Speaker 1: schedule and making some moves themselves. And I certainly like 1480 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,120 Speaker 1: the team that they're going to be bringing onto the 1481 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,400 Speaker 1: field this come and fall. If you're the Vikings, you 1482 01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:57,240 Speaker 1: may be the dregs of that division real fast. And 1483 01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:59,760 Speaker 1: just that is a lot of money to pay Sam 1484 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:01,800 Speaker 1: don't arnold. I was just happy that it happened because 1485 01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,120 Speaker 1: it meant that Denver couldn't pay him money to go 1486 01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,400 Speaker 1: be to go be my team's quarterback. 1487 01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:10,000 Speaker 2: So the Vikings have the eleventh pick in the NFL Draft, 1488 01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 2: and they also have via trade, the twenty third pick, 1489 01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:13,880 Speaker 2: so in theory they. 1490 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:14,599 Speaker 3: Could go up. 1491 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:16,760 Speaker 2: But again, if you're gonna draft a quarterback at eleven, 1492 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,080 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to pay him a lot of money, 1493 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,360 Speaker 2: which doesn't make sense as to why you would sign 1494 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,280 Speaker 2: Sam Donald. This is the Sam Donald that, throughout his 1495 01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:29,759 Speaker 2: career has a fifty nine percent completion percentage, a sixty 1496 01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:33,720 Speaker 2: three to fifty six touchdown interception ratio. I'll say this, 1497 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,080 Speaker 2: don't think I'll be watching very many Vikings games this 1498 01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,040 Speaker 2: coming year. By the way, Like I think there's a 1499 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:43,760 Speaker 2: possibility that Justin Fields is salvagable, I don't think Sam 1500 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,600 Speaker 2: Donald is. So enough of the Sam Donald bashing. I 1501 01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,880 Speaker 2: think everyone knows where Jason and I stand. I'll tell 1502 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 2: you what Jason will come back, will bring in De 1503 01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:55,519 Speaker 2: Sager for his extended update. 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Do you want toss it 1516 01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,360 Speaker 2: over the news desk to saga with all the stuff 1517 01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,519 Speaker 2: we've missed throughout the day, to saga the floor Jory. 1518 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,520 Speaker 6: Guys, we must start with the craziest of craziest finitches 1519 01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:49,200 Speaker 6: in college oops tonight the matt Conference Final in Cleveland, Ohio, 1520 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 6: Because if this had happened a week from now in 1521 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:55,559 Speaker 6: the actual NCAA tournament, it would be talked about four days. 1522 01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,080 Speaker 6: Kent State, a team with a losing record in conference 1523 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,360 Speaker 6: play in the regular season, has a chance to go 1524 01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:05,280 Speaker 6: to the NCAA Tournament. They're trailing by one, but here 1525 01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,920 Speaker 6: and we'll hear it from ESPN two here they have 1526 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,280 Speaker 6: a chance with under ten seconds to go to take 1527 01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:14,160 Speaker 6: a shot and take the lead. In the conference final. 1528 01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,519 Speaker 6: Late in the game, six. 1529 01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,879 Speaker 4: Seconds ago, Kent Stay one point lead and a foal 1530 01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 4: on Rollins. 1531 01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:28,519 Speaker 3: No, why is Rollins ruling joy of fowls? 1532 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,120 Speaker 1: Could not know time and score? 1533 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:35,759 Speaker 6: You heard it correctly. Kent State scored, took the lead 1534 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 6: and immediately purposely fouled the opponent as soon as they 1535 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:44,639 Speaker 6: inbounded the ball. That handed the opponent Akron two free 1536 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,480 Speaker 6: throws with five seconds left. They made both of them. 1537 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 6: Kent State season is over sixty two to sixty one 1538 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,519 Speaker 6: the final ouch. As we mentioned on an earlier show, 1539 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,599 Speaker 6: at least Chris Webber after his timeout in the final 1540 01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,880 Speaker 6: with Miss Michigan, had a long and great NBA career 1541 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:03,400 Speaker 6: to go on. 1542 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,360 Speaker 3: I just can't imagine it's from Kent State. He's not 1543 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,440 Speaker 3: going number one. 1544 01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,160 Speaker 6: I can't imagine he's going to be getting any sleep tonight. 1545 01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:14,479 Speaker 6: That's just an absolute crusher for Kent State and for 1546 01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,800 Speaker 6: him specifically, speaking of crushing did you see the game 1547 01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,080 Speaker 6: with number one Houston today? Wow lost sixty nine to 1548 01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,439 Speaker 6: forty one in the Big twelve final against seventh ranked 1549 01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 6: Iowa State, which, according to SEC Network for one says, 1550 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,800 Speaker 6: the Cyclones have never lost a Big Twelve title game. 1551 01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,360 Speaker 6: Six and zero now and that's the best record in 1552 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:36,240 Speaker 6: a conference championship game by any team in a single 1553 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,680 Speaker 6: conference in the history of Division one basketball. But the 1554 01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,440 Speaker 6: lopsided margin the largest over an AP number one team 1555 01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,639 Speaker 6: since Kareem and UCLA beat up Houston and Elvin Hayes 1556 01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:51,879 Speaker 6: in the Final Four in nineteen sixty eight. Wow Houston 1557 01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,040 Speaker 6: was up sixty two early today and then scored only 1558 01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,160 Speaker 6: thirty five points in about the last thirty seven minutes 1559 01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,200 Speaker 6: of the game. This is a team that could have 1560 01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,600 Speaker 6: been the one seed overall for the tournament when the 1561 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,120 Speaker 6: field is announced tomorrow. And for the Cyclones first team 1562 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,679 Speaker 6: ever to beat an AP number one by this much 1563 01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,200 Speaker 6: in a game outside of their home city. 1564 01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,639 Speaker 3: I heard the stat from NOL home no. 1565 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:18,479 Speaker 6: Hometown crowd advantage because when UCLA and Luel Sundor did that, 1566 01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,960 Speaker 6: the final four happened to be in the LA Sports 1567 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,000 Speaker 6: Arena that year. So Iowa State led by three late 1568 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,519 Speaker 6: in the first half, they win sixty nine to forty one. 1569 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,920 Speaker 6: Houston shot twenty seven percent from the floor and that 1570 01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:33,360 Speaker 6: includes from three point range four of twenty two. The 1571 01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,400 Speaker 6: score with about seven minutes left, the number one ranked 1572 01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,320 Speaker 6: team was down fifty six to twenty eight. Just an 1573 01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:43,400 Speaker 6: amazing result. So number two ranked Yukon is for sure 1574 01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,040 Speaker 6: going to be one seed Yukon and probably number one 1575 01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,559 Speaker 6: overall seed tomorrow. Connecticut took the Big East Final over 1576 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:53,280 Speaker 6: tenth rank Marquette, seventy three to fifty seven. Connecticut led 1577 01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 6: by two with about ten minutes left, and what a 1578 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,759 Speaker 6: story for NC State and for Oregon for that matter. 1579 01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,280 Speaker 6: They're each going four were sure as conference tournament champions. 1580 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,040 Speaker 6: The wolf Pack with five wins in five days in 1581 01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,240 Speaker 6: DC this week, winning the ACC Final tonight eighty four 1582 01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,240 Speaker 6: to seventy six against fourth right North Carolina. This is 1583 01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,040 Speaker 6: a Wolfpack team that had lost four straight to end 1584 01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,200 Speaker 6: the regular season. I read this is their first five 1585 01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,600 Speaker 6: game winning streak of the season and they've done it 1586 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:19,400 Speaker 6: in five days. 1587 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:19,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1588 01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,960 Speaker 2: I was watching the postgame and the DJ Horn Star 1589 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,200 Speaker 2: player He's like, I've been saying why not us. 1590 01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,800 Speaker 3: It's like there was nobody like. 1591 01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,720 Speaker 6: Enough because we hadn't seen it. But congratulations. 1592 01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:32,120 Speaker 1: So R. J. 1593 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,840 Speaker 6: Davis at the tar Heels had thirty points, so the 1594 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,839 Speaker 6: rest of his team was fifteen to forty one shooting 1595 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:42,000 Speaker 6: from the floor. Oregon won what was probably the last 1596 01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,479 Speaker 6: ever PAC twelve final tonight. Let's just go ahead and 1597 01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,439 Speaker 6: say that we'll put it down in pen as well. 1598 01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,759 Speaker 6: Seventy five to sixty eight. Oregon beats Colorado. We assume 1599 01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,960 Speaker 6: Colorado's in. We know for sure Oregon is in, and 1600 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,200 Speaker 6: bubble teams like Saint John's and Virginia might not make 1601 01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:01,559 Speaker 6: the NCAAs now Seaton Hall, Providence, Indiana State very much 1602 01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,720 Speaker 6: on the bubble for tomorrow. The New Mexico Lobos are 1603 01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,880 Speaker 6: into the NCAA Tournament for the first time in a 1604 01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,000 Speaker 6: decade after beating San Diego State in the Mountain West Final. 1605 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:14,360 Speaker 6: Sixty eight sixty one conference final victories for Vermont winning 1606 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:18,200 Speaker 6: at home Howard University, which had a record in early 1607 01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,640 Speaker 6: February of nine and fourteen and has gone nine and 1608 01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,880 Speaker 6: two since Howard won the meek Saint Peter's is back 1609 01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:28,200 Speaker 6: in the NCAA Tournament. Trailed the Metro Atlantic Final at 1610 01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:32,080 Speaker 6: half by seven, but still beat Fairfield sixty eight sixty three. 1611 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,839 Speaker 6: We mentioned the Akron win with the late free throws 1612 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,679 Speaker 6: in the MAC Conference Western Kentucky seventy eight seventy one 1613 01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:42,720 Speaker 6: winners against UTEP in the Conference USA Final. Each of 1614 01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 6: those teams was about a five hundred club in conference 1615 01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,840 Speaker 6: play this year. Grambling advances to the NCAA Tournament for 1616 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,080 Speaker 6: the first time ever, winning the SWAC tonight seventy five 1617 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,120 Speaker 6: sixty six over Texas Southern and Long Beach State with 1618 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,760 Speaker 6: a coacher that was let go but allowed to finish out. 1619 01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,720 Speaker 6: The season is going to the NCAA's after taking the 1620 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,599 Speaker 6: Big West Ground seventy four to seventy over UC Davis, 1621 01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 6: and the late game has started in the second half. 1622 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,880 Speaker 6: The WAX Championship has one seed Grand Canyon I head 1623 01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,160 Speaker 6: thirty nine to thirty two over ut Arlington. 1624 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:12,679 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Steve to say. 1625 01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:16,360 Speaker 2: We'll keep everybody updated on that final conference championship game today. 1626 01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:20,439 Speaker 2: There is still one left Selection Sunday. It's now officially 1627 01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,800 Speaker 2: Selection Sunday on the East Coast and soon in the 1628 01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,519 Speaker 2: Central time zone as well. 1629 01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:26,360 Speaker 3: Tell you what Jason will come back. 1630 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,360 Speaker 2: We will reset some of the big college basketball news 1631 01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:30,719 Speaker 2: as it is Selection Sunday. 1632 01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,880 Speaker 3: A bracket is coming out. That's next. 1633 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:40,080 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox 1634 01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:44,479 Speaker 2: Sports Saturday, Eric Tors, Jayson bar We are broadcasting live 1635 01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:48,439 Speaker 2: from the tireraq dot com studios. Tyrec dot com will 1636 01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,839 Speaker 2: help you get there and unmatched selection, fast free shipping, 1637 01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,680 Speaker 2: free road hazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers. 1638 01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:59,559 Speaker 2: Tyreck dot com the way tire buying should be. It 1639 01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:05,559 Speaker 2: is now one am Eastern Time, midnights Central, which means 1640 01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,639 Speaker 2: that for half of the country, it is Selection Sunday. 1641 01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,320 Speaker 2: I want to talk some college hoops. A lot of 1642 01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,120 Speaker 2: action in today's slate. By the way, I should have 1643 01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,120 Speaker 2: mentioned Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show will be 1644 01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:17,360 Speaker 2: following us in just one hour. 1645 01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:18,360 Speaker 3: Jason. 1646 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,120 Speaker 2: You know one thing that we did not talk about 1647 01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,040 Speaker 2: today an hour one. We did a lot of college hoops, 1648 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:24,240 Speaker 2: and we'll get back to some of it here in 1649 01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:30,080 Speaker 2: a minute. We didn't talk about Purdue. Yeah, and you know, listen, 1650 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,519 Speaker 2: I think it's a pretty big story. I mean, you know, listen, 1651 01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:36,599 Speaker 2: I understand college hoops, you know, not the national acclaim 1652 01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,759 Speaker 2: of you know of of the NFL or major college 1653 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,599 Speaker 2: football whatever. But Purdue is an interesting story going into 1654 01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:45,880 Speaker 2: the NCAA Tournament. I mean, this is a team that, 1655 01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:49,320 Speaker 2: of course we all know, last year lost as a 1656 01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,360 Speaker 2: number one seed for just the well for them, it 1657 01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,160 Speaker 2: was the first time ever, second time ever that a 1658 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,040 Speaker 2: number one seed lost to a sixteen seed. They lose 1659 01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:00,840 Speaker 2: to Fairley Dickinson. The last time that it happened was Virginia. 1660 01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,000 Speaker 2: Virginia became the first one in twenty eighteen. They go 1661 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,679 Speaker 2: on to win the twenty nineteen National champion The one 1662 01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:09,040 Speaker 2: thing that I don't think a lot of people remember though, Virginia, 1663 01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,439 Speaker 2: their best player was hurt in twenty eighteen, DeAndre Hunter, 1664 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,679 Speaker 2: who ended up being a lottery pick and of course 1665 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:19,040 Speaker 2: was healthy during that national championship run on your you know, 1666 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,920 Speaker 2: as somebody who's not a diehard college basketball fan, but 1667 01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,919 Speaker 2: you certainly love the sport, Like, where does just Purdue 1668 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,040 Speaker 2: going into this week kind of rank in terms of 1669 01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:29,720 Speaker 2: interest for you? 1670 01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,880 Speaker 1: I Mean, it's definitely interesting, But there there are a 1671 01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,760 Speaker 1: few teams that I just don't trust, And you really 1672 01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't do this because a lot of times it's not 1673 01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,360 Speaker 1: the fault all the time of the coach, right, But 1674 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,840 Speaker 1: two teams that I had kind of almost turn into 1675 01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:48,360 Speaker 1: a punchline when you asked me my trust factor or 1676 01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:54,599 Speaker 1: something like that. If anybody has, it's Purdue and it's Tennessee. 1677 01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,679 Speaker 1: And the biggest reason is because Rick Barnes has always 1678 01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,680 Speaker 1: found a way to do this. And Matt Painter seventeen 1679 01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:04,120 Speaker 1: and fifteen in the NCAA Tournament as a head coach. 1680 01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:08,439 Speaker 1: We know about the fairly Dickinson loss last year, but 1681 01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean they gotta be by thirteen in twenty twenty one, 1682 01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:16,360 Speaker 1: losing to North Texas. They lost to Saint Peter's in 1683 01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:20,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. This is a guy that it's just 1684 01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,800 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a guy that's had no luck at March. 1685 01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:27,320 Speaker 1: And I don't really know why it's this way, why 1686 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,400 Speaker 1: it continues to be this way. But you know you 1687 01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:34,719 Speaker 1: mentioned Virginia. Well, I mean Tony Bennett won a national championship, thankfully, 1688 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,680 Speaker 1: and that is not true for Matt Paynter. We have 1689 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,519 Speaker 1: Matt Painter on this show about a month ago. I 1690 01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,040 Speaker 1: think Matt Painter is an excellent coach. I just don't 1691 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,920 Speaker 1: trust his basketball teams. In March because there's no reason 1692 01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,839 Speaker 1: for me too, because there is no history to indicate 1693 01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,479 Speaker 1: that makes any sense. Like, eventually, I can't keep running 1694 01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:55,840 Speaker 1: my head into the same brick wall. I think they 1695 01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,720 Speaker 1: have a really good basketball team. I do. I don't 1696 01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,040 Speaker 1: know what the matchup's going to be. But if you 1697 01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:06,160 Speaker 1: just ask me right now blindly to put a hot 1698 01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,200 Speaker 1: take out there knowing nothing about the bracket other than 1699 01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,360 Speaker 1: I know Purdue will be in the tournament, I have 1700 01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:15,360 Speaker 1: a feeling they'll lose in sweet sixty. That's just right 1701 01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:18,760 Speaker 1: where I find myself right now. They're an excellent team 1702 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,360 Speaker 1: that could win it all. I just they're in that 1703 01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:26,040 Speaker 1: territory where they've so often failed, and they come from 1704 01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:29,439 Speaker 1: a conference of teams that tend to underperform in the 1705 01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,879 Speaker 1: NCAA tournament. So a lot of what you see from Purdue, 1706 01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,160 Speaker 1: you just wonder how much of this is a benefit 1707 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,920 Speaker 1: of the conference they play in and their style meshing 1708 01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,559 Speaker 1: and then being the best of that lot as opposed 1709 01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:45,599 Speaker 1: to a team that could really compete across the country 1710 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,880 Speaker 1: in this kind of a tournament, or are they going 1711 01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:52,920 Speaker 1: to get exposed? And I just gut feeling is this 1712 01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:54,840 Speaker 1: is just going to be another one of those years 1713 01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:55,560 Speaker 1: for Purdue. 1714 01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's a tough balance because a couple 1715 01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,120 Speaker 2: things stand out. One, you gotta give credit where it's due. 1716 01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,479 Speaker 2: Right in the out of conference the Big Ten is 1717 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,040 Speaker 2: down this year. I think the Big Ten is always overrated. 1718 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,559 Speaker 2: This year yeah, but this year is just flat out 1719 01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:12,880 Speaker 2: not good. I mean, five teams probably six with Michigan State, 1720 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,600 Speaker 2: but Michigan State could be one of those teams that 1721 01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,200 Speaker 2: with the bid stealing today from NC State which won 1722 01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,639 Speaker 2: the ACC, Oregon which won the Pac twelve, those two 1723 01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,719 Speaker 2: teams would not have been in the field if if, 1724 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,920 Speaker 2: if they had not won those conference tournaments. So that's 1725 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,680 Speaker 2: gonna cost two bids, two teams their bids. Also worth 1726 01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:32,200 Speaker 2: noting the AAC Florida Atlantic loss today. Their championship game 1727 01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,240 Speaker 2: is tomorrow. They're gonna have a team in that in 1728 01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,400 Speaker 2: that uh there, their champion is going to steal a 1729 01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:40,280 Speaker 2: bid as well. So I just bring it up because 1730 01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:41,960 Speaker 2: we might be looking at five bids from the from 1731 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,559 Speaker 2: the Big Ten. Got to give credit to Purdue. They 1732 01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,800 Speaker 2: they won, They won a ton of big games out 1733 01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,479 Speaker 2: of conference Arizona on a neutral Alabama on a neutral 1734 01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:51,559 Speaker 2: Tennessee on a neutral Gonzaga on a neutral on and 1735 01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,479 Speaker 2: on a non But I do think that there should 1736 01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,519 Speaker 2: be some concern. First of all, I think the point 1737 01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,000 Speaker 2: you brought up is really well made, and it's something 1738 01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,280 Speaker 2: that I've been a little confuse by and maybe frustrated by. 1739 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:07,080 Speaker 2: Is everybody focuses on last year. Okay, totally get it. 1740 01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:11,639 Speaker 2: That's fine, but I bring it up because they're really 1741 01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:13,960 Speaker 2: I mean literally statistically, whether you want to go a 1742 01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,000 Speaker 2: two year sample size or a three year sample size, 1743 01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,599 Speaker 2: as you just said, it is literally the worst three 1744 01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,040 Speaker 2: year run. I think you could pretty much indisputably argue 1745 01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:24,000 Speaker 2: in the history of the tournament. It loves to a 1746 01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,759 Speaker 2: thirteen seed as a four seed. Okay, that happens. Well, 1747 01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:30,600 Speaker 2: everybody forgets, you know, Saint Peter's they beat Kentucky in 1748 01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:34,840 Speaker 2: round one and it's this crazy indictment on John Caliperry. Well, 1749 01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,599 Speaker 2: two rounds later they play Perdue. Perdue has a week 1750 01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,760 Speaker 2: to prepare for him. Saint Peter's has been hearing how 1751 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,840 Speaker 2: good they are. Prduo's, they can't take them lightly and 1752 01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,439 Speaker 2: they end up losing to them anyway. So obviously that 1753 01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,840 Speaker 2: is in a conjunction with losing to a sixteen seed 1754 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,960 Speaker 2: in Fairley Dickinson last year. But I just bring it up, Jason, 1755 01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,839 Speaker 2: because on top of all that, there is like another 1756 01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,040 Speaker 2: part about this that I keep bringing up that I 1757 01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:59,600 Speaker 2: haven't really heard other people bring up, and I'm not 1758 01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,760 Speaker 2: totally or why is because I see a lot of people, Well, 1759 01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:06,000 Speaker 2: you know, Virginia lost in twenty eighteen and they ended 1760 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,040 Speaker 2: up winning the national championship the next year. Maybe Purdue 1761 01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,599 Speaker 2: can do the same. Perdue, maybe can do the same. 1762 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:16,759 Speaker 2: But if they do, they will essentially break a cardinal 1763 01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:18,760 Speaker 2: rule of winning the NCAA tournament, and that is that 1764 01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:23,240 Speaker 2: basically every NCAA tournament winner has NBA dudes on their roster. 1765 01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,479 Speaker 2: And you know, you kind of had three guys last year, 1766 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,160 Speaker 2: even Virginia. People forget I just said it, but DeAndre 1767 01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,880 Speaker 2: Hunter was a lottery pick who was out of that game, 1768 01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,280 Speaker 2: was out of the year, was out the year that 1769 01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,120 Speaker 2: they lost in the opening round. Had two other guys 1770 01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,320 Speaker 2: that got drafted that year, Ty Jerome and I'm blanket 1771 01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,160 Speaker 2: on the other guy, Kyle Guy I think was Guy's name. 1772 01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,960 Speaker 2: So they had three NBA players on that Virginia team. 1773 01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:48,519 Speaker 2: Perdue has maybe one. If you really believe in Zachi Edie. 1774 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll get a shot, but I don't think 1775 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:52,680 Speaker 2: you know, I see him in these mock drafts as 1776 01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,519 Speaker 2: a top ten, top twelve, top fifteen pick. 1777 01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:56,439 Speaker 3: I don't see that. I think he's a late first, 1778 01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,160 Speaker 3: early second, and so. 1779 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,200 Speaker 2: That's like like that That's the thing to me is 1780 01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,360 Speaker 2: just I'm not ruined four against him. 1781 01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:04,840 Speaker 3: I no perdue fans thing. I don't like him. I'd 1782 01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:06,200 Speaker 3: have done matter to me one way or the other. 1783 01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:10,120 Speaker 2: I just do know that if they win this national championship, 1784 01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:14,960 Speaker 2: it will be basically breaking a thirty forty year track 1785 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,719 Speaker 2: record that we have of basically you need NBA dudes 1786 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,040 Speaker 2: on your roster to ultimately win this thing. 1787 01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:24,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right. I mean the problem for 1788 01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,160 Speaker 1: Purdue is, I mean they did have Jay and Ivy 1789 01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:27,720 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago and they still got beat 1790 01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,760 Speaker 1: Like yeah, and he was a what top five pick? 1791 01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:32,720 Speaker 1: He was a top five pick. I believe he's number 1792 01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:38,160 Speaker 1: four overall. So that's like, I don't know what to 1793 01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,840 Speaker 1: say about what happens to some of these teams in March. 1794 01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,080 Speaker 1: Like I've seen Rick Barnes be out coached in a 1795 01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:44,800 Speaker 1: couple of these games. But I've also just seen these 1796 01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,400 Speaker 1: guys not make shots. And because this tournament is one 1797 01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:49,320 Speaker 1: and done, no matter how good you are, what you've 1798 01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:52,960 Speaker 1: done during the season, you know you're increasingly gonna see, 1799 01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,599 Speaker 1: especially if you're a team that relies on deep shooting, 1800 01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:59,240 Speaker 1: if you come up empty for fifteen minutes, you can 1801 01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,240 Speaker 1: put yourself in a hole that you can't pull yourself 1802 01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:04,320 Speaker 1: out of. So I don't know, like and that's why 1803 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,479 Speaker 1: when we have Matt paynter on, I asked that question, 1804 01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,920 Speaker 1: I said, why do you feel more comfortable this year? 1805 01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,640 Speaker 1: Like what is this team to you? And you know, 1806 01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,000 Speaker 1: he mentioned the leadership and how they've done everything they've 1807 01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:16,960 Speaker 1: been asked to do, and of course that's that's what 1808 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:20,200 Speaker 1: a coach is gonna say. But you know, anyway, get 1809 01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:22,719 Speaker 1: beat on a buzzer beater and get sent to overtime 1810 01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,559 Speaker 1: and everything that happened in that Wisconsin game, we understand that. 1811 01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:31,360 Speaker 1: But something always happens to Purdu something always just it's 1812 01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:33,280 Speaker 1: just I don't know what they are. I don't know 1813 01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:34,720 Speaker 1: what I would compare him to. What are they the 1814 01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:39,080 Speaker 1: Chargers of college basketball, Like the Chargers with Philip Rivers, 1815 01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,120 Speaker 1: at least, like a team that was actually fairly good 1816 01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,519 Speaker 1: or good, but would always underperform in the big moments. 1817 01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,639 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but if not now 1818 01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,240 Speaker 1: then win? Like how many? How many good teams can 1819 01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,960 Speaker 1: Matt Painter bring and then not get somewhere with? And 1820 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,439 Speaker 1: I think that the lucky thing for him is he's 1821 01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,559 Speaker 1: not at Kentucky, He's not at Duke, He's not at 1822 01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:02,080 Speaker 1: one of these goals Purdue has. You know, they have 1823 01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:04,200 Speaker 1: tradition and history and all that kind of stuff with 1824 01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:08,080 Speaker 1: Gane Katie. But how much better are you gonna do 1825 01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:11,360 Speaker 1: than Matt Painter? Is it his problem or is it 1826 01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,680 Speaker 1: just something that doesn't click in March? I don't know 1827 01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:19,200 Speaker 1: how to how to really kind of grasp that, Aaron, Like, 1828 01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:21,439 Speaker 1: what is it about Matt Painter? What is it about 1829 01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,040 Speaker 1: Rick Barnes? What is it about Sean Miller even or 1830 01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,559 Speaker 1: you know the struggles that we've seen at different times 1831 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,880 Speaker 1: for some of these coaches that you have a ton 1832 01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:31,200 Speaker 1: of respect for, and then when it gets to March, 1833 01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:32,680 Speaker 1: it's just like, man, once you get to March, I 1834 01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:34,880 Speaker 1: don't really like these guys anymore. And I don't know 1835 01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:35,479 Speaker 1: what that is. 1836 01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,040 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, And there's no right 1837 01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:41,839 Speaker 2: or wrong answer, but and I think the last couple weeks, 1838 01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,679 Speaker 2: I think one with the way that Yukon play today, 1839 01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:49,760 Speaker 2: they are probably the deserving favorite in Houston up until 1840 01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:53,519 Speaker 2: today was steamrolling everybody. So I don't know that it's 1841 01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:57,760 Speaker 2: like national championship or bust, but like, how far does 1842 01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:58,840 Speaker 2: Purdue have to go? 1843 01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,040 Speaker 3: Because remember this is a team. He can say whatever 1844 01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:01,360 Speaker 3: you want. 1845 01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:03,840 Speaker 2: They were the number one seed last year Big Ten 1846 01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,600 Speaker 2: regular season champs, Big Ten Tourney champs. Lose in the 1847 01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:09,559 Speaker 2: first round. That was the third straight awful loss in 1848 01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:13,120 Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament. They bring back everybody they win the 1849 01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,479 Speaker 2: big Big Big ten regular season. They did, to their credit, 1850 01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:20,120 Speaker 2: win a ton of big games during the during the 1851 01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,680 Speaker 2: out of conference portion of play. I just bring it 1852 01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:26,160 Speaker 2: up because in your opinion, what would they have to 1853 01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:29,560 Speaker 2: do for this season to not be considered a disappointment 1854 01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,320 Speaker 2: or this tournament run, I should say not to be 1855 01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:33,080 Speaker 2: considered a disappointment. 1856 01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:39,040 Speaker 1: They meaning Yukon perdue or perdue for it not to 1857 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:43,520 Speaker 1: be a disappointment, they got to get to Arizona. 1858 01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:44,000 Speaker 3: I agree. 1859 01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:45,519 Speaker 1: I think they've got to get to the final four. 1860 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,479 Speaker 1: I mean, eventually, Elite eight's nice and all. But when 1861 01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:51,599 Speaker 1: you've been a top one to five team all year long, 1862 01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:54,280 Speaker 1: it's got to be better than that. It just does 1863 01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:57,920 Speaker 1: that is good. Make it the Elite eight. It is 1864 01:31:57,960 --> 01:31:59,400 Speaker 1: going to be a dream come true for a lot 1865 01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,719 Speaker 1: of programs. It can't be Purdue. Like we've moved past 1866 01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:07,080 Speaker 1: the gradual step move and we are in a spot 1867 01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:11,040 Speaker 1: where it's got to start showing up or we're going 1868 01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:13,000 Speaker 1: to start to question things, and maybe we already have. 1869 01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:17,519 Speaker 1: I was looking at an SIPs from Pat forty after 1870 01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,160 Speaker 1: they lost to Fairley Dickinson. I brought it up here 1871 01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:22,599 Speaker 1: as you're talking, and it says, when it really matters, 1872 01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:25,320 Speaker 1: Purdue doesn't guard well enough, it doesn't make enough big shots, 1873 01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't coach its way out of tight spots. The 1874 01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,200 Speaker 1: Painter system is flawed, perhaps fatally in terms of NC 1875 01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:37,040 Speaker 1: DOUBLEA Championship competition. Now forty is certainly somebody that likes 1876 01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,920 Speaker 1: to stir it up a little bit. But that last 1877 01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:42,280 Speaker 1: sentence is the one that I've been trying to figure out. 1878 01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,519 Speaker 1: The Painter system is flawed, perhaps fatally in terms of 1879 01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:48,880 Speaker 1: NC DOUBLEA Championship competition. When I look at Painter, when 1880 01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:50,760 Speaker 1: I look at Rick Barnes, and some of these kind 1881 01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,200 Speaker 1: of coaches. I'm trying to figure out what about the 1882 01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,479 Speaker 1: system is flawed, Like what is it that is not 1883 01:32:56,520 --> 01:33:02,280 Speaker 1: being done by the coaches that I've seen some instances 1884 01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,280 Speaker 1: where I'm like, all right, that coach should have made 1885 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:07,800 Speaker 1: this adjustment at halftime. But I also sit there and think, well, 1886 01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:10,320 Speaker 1: dudes are missing wide open shots. I don't know what 1887 01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:14,040 Speaker 1: the guy on the sideline can do about that except 1888 01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:17,439 Speaker 1: yell at them to make those shots. Like there's a 1889 01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,519 Speaker 1: balance here that I'm not sure how to strike. But 1890 01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:25,800 Speaker 1: it does seem systemic that there are certain coaches that 1891 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:30,000 Speaker 1: just find a way to not do what they should 1892 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,240 Speaker 1: do with the talent that they have. 1893 01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and what I would say really quickly on that 1894 01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:37,000 Speaker 2: is that, you know, I understand that they don't make shots, 1895 01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:40,760 Speaker 2: you know, logic, But when you start as the head 1896 01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,400 Speaker 2: coach in five oh six and a Big ten program, 1897 01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:46,160 Speaker 2: you're still there in twenty twenty four, that's you know, 1898 01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:48,320 Speaker 2: I'm not great at Maack, but that's eighteen ish years. 1899 01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:52,120 Speaker 2: To his credit, they've basically made the NCAA Tournament every year. 1900 01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:54,760 Speaker 2: It looks like there are three years if you take 1901 01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:58,080 Speaker 2: out the twenty twenty COVID season that he did not 1902 01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:02,960 Speaker 2: make the NCAA tournament. So that's eighteen years fourteen NCAA tournaments. 1903 01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,160 Speaker 2: That would have been fifteen with twenty twenty. But so 1904 01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:08,959 Speaker 2: if say fourteen NCAA tournaments when you're in a power conference, 1905 01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:11,920 Speaker 2: fourteen NCAA tournaments won Elite eight. Now, to his credit, 1906 01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:15,640 Speaker 2: he does have a few Sweet sixteens, especially early, but 1907 01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,639 Speaker 2: that goes beyond just missing a couple of file shots. 1908 01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:21,160 Speaker 2: And so I only bring it up because I'll be 1909 01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,759 Speaker 2: curious over these next couple of days. But I do 1910 01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:27,040 Speaker 2: agree that I think it's Final four bus for people 1911 01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:30,960 Speaker 2: who don't aren't college basketball diehards perdue basically since the 1912 01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,600 Speaker 2: tournament has expanded, has not made the NCAA tur or 1913 01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:35,760 Speaker 2: not made the Final four. Excuse me, nineteen eighty was 1914 01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,240 Speaker 2: the last time they made a Final four. It certainly 1915 01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:41,559 Speaker 2: isn't what it is now in terms of fan interest 1916 01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:42,120 Speaker 2: and all that. 1917 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm with you. I do think they have 1918 01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:44,880 Speaker 3: to get there. 1919 01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:50,599 Speaker 2: By the way, apparently Matt Pater had to defend Zach 1920 01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,679 Speaker 2: Edy again because in the process of looking up his resume. 1921 01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,240 Speaker 2: In the process of looking up his resume, the first 1922 01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:02,280 Speaker 2: three Google results were perdue. Coach Zach Edie defends Purdue 1923 01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:05,920 Speaker 2: coach defends Zach edy shortly after controversial call versus Wisconsin. 1924 01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:08,439 Speaker 3: Uh, let's see what he said here really quick. 1925 01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:12,360 Speaker 2: I've never seen somebody so good set get so much 1926 01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:14,599 Speaker 2: expletive for no reason. 1927 01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:16,080 Speaker 3: It blows my mind. 1928 01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:19,680 Speaker 2: All say, Matt, is when your team shoots thirty two 1929 01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:23,439 Speaker 2: file shots the other team shoots nine, I'm sorry, Like, like, 1930 01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:25,920 Speaker 2: we did this whole thing like three weeks ago, Jason 1931 01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:27,519 Speaker 2: when he was on we don't have to do it again. 1932 01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,840 Speaker 2: But when they have like a plus twenty free throw 1933 01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:35,679 Speaker 2: advantage every single game, you simply cannot say that one 1934 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:39,639 Speaker 2: team is so physical that they are committing you know whatever, 1935 01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:43,200 Speaker 2: ten twelve, fifteen more fouls and on the other side 1936 01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:45,760 Speaker 2: of the court that there is no there is not 1937 01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:49,240 Speaker 2: an equal level of physicality. It's just I understand he 1938 01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,880 Speaker 2: has to defend his player. But I will say, like 1939 01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,760 Speaker 2: I watched that game, and I have been in the 1940 01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,360 Speaker 2: middle of that conversation, and I tried to stay out 1941 01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:58,920 Speaker 2: of it today, and it is worth noting I saw 1942 01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:00,960 Speaker 2: a lot of people getting in on the action today. 1943 01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:03,280 Speaker 3: So uh yeah, today they lose. 1944 01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:05,640 Speaker 2: By one in a game where let me just make 1945 01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:08,439 Speaker 2: sure that I have this stack correct, in a game 1946 01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:11,360 Speaker 2: where they let's take a look, I just want to 1947 01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:13,719 Speaker 2: make sure I have it right. They had a thirty 1948 01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:17,720 Speaker 2: two to nine free throw advantage, So that is what 1949 01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:22,240 Speaker 2: a twenty four free throw advantage. Zach Edi shot nineteen 1950 01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:25,719 Speaker 2: free throws, Wisconsin shot nine as eighteen. 1951 01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:28,120 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's very so just a stat. 1952 01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:31,080 Speaker 1: Let me tell you. Yeah, what you're saying is yeah, 1953 01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,320 Speaker 1: I mean you're going to keep answering those questions, Matt 1954 01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:37,200 Speaker 1: if those discrepancies stay the same a couple of others. 1955 01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:38,880 Speaker 3: Just anyway, go ahead, Yeah, right. 1956 01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:44,000 Speaker 1: Contextual points here. Purdue in their last ten tournaments have 1957 01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,240 Speaker 1: been upset by higher seeds in six of them. Oh wow, 1958 01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:52,000 Speaker 1: he's made one Elite eight at Purdue in twenty nineteen. 1959 01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:57,040 Speaker 1: Six times they've made it to Week two. They've made 1960 01:36:57,040 --> 01:37:01,200 Speaker 1: it every year with with a kind of down year. 1961 01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:05,120 Speaker 1: They had a two year problem twenty twelve, thirteen, somewhere 1962 01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:08,080 Speaker 1: in that neighborhood. But he's a guy that's been to 1963 01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:10,879 Speaker 1: the tournament fifteen times. He's made one Elite eight fifteen 1964 01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:14,560 Speaker 1: times at Purdue and I think once at so Nolinois. 1965 01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:18,080 Speaker 1: His first year. But the idea that in six of 1966 01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:22,680 Speaker 1: ten tournaments you've been upset, I mean something has to 1967 01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:25,519 Speaker 1: change eventually, like he's been there for a very long time. 1968 01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:31,840 Speaker 1: But it's if I'm a Purdue fan, it has got 1969 01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:34,280 Speaker 1: to be a miserable experience because you watch a great 1970 01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:37,120 Speaker 1: team all year and then you just watch them collapse, 1971 01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:40,040 Speaker 1: and you wonder, did what I see for the last 1972 01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:44,280 Speaker 1: three or four months was that real? Or is this real? 1973 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:47,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter because this is a one and done tournament. 1974 01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:51,559 Speaker 2: No, And it's a fascinating question, and I'm glad we 1975 01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:54,000 Speaker 2: dove into that because I think it's a very interesting 1976 01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:56,360 Speaker 2: question of what has to happen. And I do think 1977 01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:58,880 Speaker 2: to be clear, I understand it's a tough bracket, a 1978 01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,400 Speaker 2: hard bracket to win all that national championships, hard bracket. 1979 01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:04,479 Speaker 2: I had the hard thing to do. I'm sorry you 1980 01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:07,680 Speaker 2: cannot as a as a number one seed. Again, I 1981 01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:10,120 Speaker 2: think you have to get to the final four for 1982 01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:13,040 Speaker 2: the season to be considered fully a success. Now their 1983 01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,479 Speaker 2: own fans can talk about it however they want to, 1984 01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:17,240 Speaker 2: but in my opinion, that's what you have to do. 1985 01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:18,719 Speaker 3: Should mention, by the way. 1986 01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:23,280 Speaker 2: Our Fox Sports Radio bracket is already open, and you 1987 01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:26,799 Speaker 2: can pre register for that Fox Sports Radio Bracket Challenge 1988 01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:29,720 Speaker 2: at Foxsports Radio dot com. Don't miss your chance to 1989 01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:32,639 Speaker 2: win the ultimate college sports trip for you and friend, 1990 01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:36,200 Speaker 2: brought to you by graduate hotels where college fans stay. 1991 01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:40,479 Speaker 2: Just finished talking about a coach that can't seem to 1992 01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:43,759 Speaker 2: get over the hump. We'll talk about it an NBA player, 1993 01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:45,400 Speaker 2: just the same. 1994 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:46,040 Speaker 3: That's net. 1995 01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:50,720 Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio eror Torris Jason Martin 1996 01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:54,160 Speaker 2: broadcasting live for the Tyreck dot com studios. Remember you 1997 01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:57,400 Speaker 2: can pre register right now for the Fox Sports Radio 1998 01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:00,960 Speaker 2: Bracket Challenge at Foxsports Radio dot com. Don't miss your 1999 01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,760 Speaker 2: chance to win the ultimate college sports trip for you 2000 01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:07,360 Speaker 2: and a friend, brought to you by graduate hotels where 2001 01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:12,240 Speaker 2: college fans stay. Jason, I want to switch to one 2002 01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:14,680 Speaker 2: NBA topic before I do. Is there anything from a 2003 01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:18,120 Speaker 2: college basketball perspective that we've missed? Selection Sunday is here 2004 01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:20,840 Speaker 2: on the East Coast and Central time zones, And earlier 2005 01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:24,040 Speaker 2: in the show we talked a lot about Yukon. Are 2006 01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:28,600 Speaker 2: they the overwhelming favorite? Are they essentially, you know, the 2007 01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,719 Speaker 2: new face of the sport. We've talked about the Long 2008 01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:34,360 Speaker 2: Beach State story, which is certainly interesting. They clinch an 2009 01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:38,200 Speaker 2: NCAA tournament berth just days after firing their head coach, 2010 01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:41,439 Speaker 2: but allowing him to coach the conference tournament, and obviously perdue. 2011 01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:43,840 Speaker 2: We just spent a significant amount of time on this 2012 01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:47,320 Speaker 2: past segment. Is there anything that we haven't hit on 2013 01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:49,120 Speaker 2: yet that you want to get to before we kind 2014 01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:51,080 Speaker 2: of switch gears here, Jason, I don't think so. 2015 01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:53,880 Speaker 1: I mean, the tournament's coming, and we're gonna have plenty 2016 01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,639 Speaker 1: of time to talk about that in the coming weeks. 2017 01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,840 Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be fun to have the bracket and 2018 01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:02,280 Speaker 1: be able to look at some of these matchups and 2019 01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:05,599 Speaker 1: get to the basketball. I do miss when Sunday felt bigger, 2020 01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:09,280 Speaker 1: and I don't mean Selection Sunday, But I guess at 2021 01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,519 Speaker 1: my age now, I remember a time when the ACC 2022 01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,559 Speaker 1: Final was Sunday afternoon, when I got home from church 2023 01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:16,439 Speaker 1: and you would have the SEC Final and you would 2024 01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:18,479 Speaker 1: have a lot of the bigger games. It does feel 2025 01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:22,280 Speaker 1: like a lot of that's moved to Saturday. But outside 2026 01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:23,760 Speaker 1: of that, it just feels I feel like we have 2027 01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:25,720 Speaker 1: a better handle on things now than we used to 2028 01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,559 Speaker 1: at like four pm on Sunday. But I kind of 2029 01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:31,520 Speaker 1: like that that Sunday felt like a big time culmination 2030 01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:34,000 Speaker 1: as opposed to it's not as exciting to watch the 2031 01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:37,200 Speaker 1: games in the afternoon as maybe it used to be. 2032 01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:39,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting you just said what you said about 2033 01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:43,639 Speaker 2: having a better feel for what's going on. David Warlock, 2034 01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:47,479 Speaker 2: who is the NCAA director of Media, tweeted out about 2035 01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,800 Speaker 2: an hour ago he said, been doing this since two 2036 01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:52,320 Speaker 2: thousand and six, It's never been this hard for the committee, 2037 01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:54,040 Speaker 2: not only because of how close so many of these 2038 01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:57,320 Speaker 2: teams are, but because of the abundance of big thieves 2039 01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,760 Speaker 2: which have knocked teams out going on midnight. But the 2040 01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:03,759 Speaker 2: work continues. That's why they call it madness. Greg Byrne, 2041 01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:07,200 Speaker 2: the Alabama AD who was on who is on the committee, 2042 01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,799 Speaker 2: basically confirmed that said we're still working here. Well passed midnight. 2043 01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:13,120 Speaker 2: What David said, we are still in the room. So 2044 01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:15,759 Speaker 2: essentially this year is definitely a little bit tougher because 2045 01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,640 Speaker 2: they're the bid thieves, because there's so much on the 2046 01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:21,840 Speaker 2: bubble that that could be undetermined. But I do still 2047 01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,280 Speaker 2: think at the end of the day, now that we know, 2048 01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,519 Speaker 2: you know everybody who's going to be there, you know 2049 01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:29,439 Speaker 2: there's there's maybe a team or two, but we also 2050 01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:31,000 Speaker 2: know probably two or three that probably are on the 2051 01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,679 Speaker 2: wrong side of the bubble based on what happened today, 2052 01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:36,960 Speaker 2: Jason really quick. I didn't want to get to one 2053 01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,439 Speaker 2: NBA topic. It's it's not a huge thing, but I 2054 01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:41,960 Speaker 2: think it's actually very interesting. And if there wasn't so 2055 01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:43,760 Speaker 2: much basketball, I would have loved to kind of dive 2056 01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:48,160 Speaker 2: into this a little bit deeper. But today Joel mbeat 2057 01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:52,599 Speaker 2: excuse me, turned thirty years old, and obviously he's heard, 2058 01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:55,040 Speaker 2: and it's a bummer because he was playing really well again. 2059 01:41:56,360 --> 01:42:01,439 Speaker 2: But I thought kind of going through his career and 2060 01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:05,720 Speaker 2: giving a grade on where his career is would be fascinating. 2061 01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:07,760 Speaker 2: I think I think maybe you could argue the most 2062 01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,120 Speaker 2: fascinating grade that you could have to give a player, 2063 01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:12,720 Speaker 2: because on the one hand, you know, this is a 2064 01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:16,960 Speaker 2: guy that has developed into a literal MVP, finished second 2065 01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:19,639 Speaker 2: in MVP voting the two previous years before winning it 2066 01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:22,880 Speaker 2: last year, was in line to win it again this 2067 01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:26,560 Speaker 2: year before his injury, and so listen, he's been a 2068 01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:27,719 Speaker 2: success story. 2069 01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:28,800 Speaker 3: Third overall pick. 2070 01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:31,080 Speaker 2: You know, obviously we know he grew up in Cameroon 2071 01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:35,040 Speaker 2: and has exceeded any expectations anybody could have reasonably placed 2072 01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:39,800 Speaker 2: on him from a you know, an individual standpoint. I 2073 01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:41,080 Speaker 2: was gonna say, real quick, I just want to set 2074 01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:42,920 Speaker 2: it all up, then I'll toss it over you. The 2075 01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:45,439 Speaker 2: counter to that is also that hasn't made it another 2076 01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:48,280 Speaker 2: second round of the tournament as an MVP, Worth noting 2077 01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:50,679 Speaker 2: in the process he has had some very bad teammates, 2078 01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:52,840 Speaker 2: which I don't think has helped. And so I just 2079 01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:54,559 Speaker 2: think you could look at it and say it's been 2080 01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:57,800 Speaker 2: somewhat disappointing. I think you could say he's overachieved. I 2081 01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:00,360 Speaker 2: think you could go in any direction, and so I 2082 01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:02,160 Speaker 2: want to go ahead and let you do exactly that 2083 01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:04,360 Speaker 2: and tell me what you would grade his career at 2084 01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:07,280 Speaker 2: age thirty. 2085 01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:11,120 Speaker 1: Twenty seven point eight points a game, eleven rebounds, three assists. 2086 01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:13,719 Speaker 1: He shoots a little over fifty percent from the field 2087 01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:17,400 Speaker 1: about thirty four percent career from three eighty two percent 2088 01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:19,799 Speaker 1: free throw shooter. We know how big he is, but man, 2089 01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:22,280 Speaker 1: when he's on, he's as good as you can find. 2090 01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:27,160 Speaker 1: I think that there have been some things that can 2091 01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:29,360 Speaker 1: knock him one, just being he hadn't been able to 2092 01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:32,240 Speaker 1: stay healthy, which you feared coming out of college, and 2093 01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:34,640 Speaker 1: it's been true he's played a lot of games, but 2094 01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:37,639 Speaker 1: he's missed a lot of games. But your point about 2095 01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:41,800 Speaker 1: the teammates has to be talked about because I would 2096 01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:44,959 Speaker 1: say the first few years of his first. 2097 01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:47,679 Speaker 2: It was literally the worst time, worst, worst, biggest rebuild 2098 01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:48,640 Speaker 2: ever he was part of. 2099 01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:50,720 Speaker 3: That's also where he entered the league, which is worth 2100 01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:51,400 Speaker 3: noting as well. 2101 01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, he's part of the process. But I 2102 01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:56,360 Speaker 1: think Ben Simmons ruined a couple of years for him. 2103 01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that James Harden did very much for 2104 01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:02,160 Speaker 1: him for a couple of years as well. Lots on 2105 01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:04,320 Speaker 1: his shoulders and he was trying to take on a lot, 2106 01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:06,639 Speaker 1: and as such, I think that his body's not really 2107 01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:09,639 Speaker 1: built for it, because it had already kind of betrayed 2108 01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:11,200 Speaker 1: him a bit in college, and it was doing the 2109 01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:15,439 Speaker 1: same thing in the pros. His ability is otherworldly. I 2110 01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:17,880 Speaker 1: think the knocks on him are of those two things, 2111 01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:21,519 Speaker 1: and maybe the perception that sometimes he doesn't want it 2112 01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:24,920 Speaker 1: when it comes to He has had some he's had 2113 01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:29,280 Speaker 1: some moments certainly where he has been less than stellar 2114 01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:32,599 Speaker 1: in the postseason, and then we've seen the opposite. I mean, 2115 01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:34,720 Speaker 1: there was the year that Kawhi hit the shot that 2116 01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:38,240 Speaker 1: knocked them out of the postseason at the end the 2117 01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:41,200 Speaker 1: year that the Raptors would go on to win at all. 2118 01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:44,040 Speaker 1: So there have been some things that he could control, 2119 01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,160 Speaker 1: some things that he have that he's not going to 2120 01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:49,760 Speaker 1: be able to control. I think the biggest thing is 2121 01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:51,720 Speaker 1: just he's been lapped by guys that have been more 2122 01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:55,080 Speaker 1: available than him. Sure, but outside of that, he you know, 2123 01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:58,320 Speaker 1: he's an MVP. He's a guy that you do think 2124 01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:01,759 Speaker 1: you could win a championship within. The Only problem is health, 2125 01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:04,120 Speaker 1: and I don't know that that's ever going to change. 2126 01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:06,479 Speaker 1: I don't think that he's he has underperformed at all. 2127 01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:09,720 Speaker 1: I think he's been stellar. I just think that that 2128 01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:13,800 Speaker 1: availability issue and the circumstances around him in the way 2129 01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:15,880 Speaker 1: that the team has been built around him, have done 2130 01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:19,120 Speaker 1: him no favors. And as such, I think he could 2131 01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:24,360 Speaker 1: be far more accomplished right now in terms of championships 2132 01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:28,160 Speaker 1: or in terms of playoff success than he is. But individually, 2133 01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:32,120 Speaker 1: you can't deny what a just immense talent he is. 2134 01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, context always matters, and like so for me, I 2135 01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,800 Speaker 2: think the availability thing is a real thing, but I 2136 01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:42,760 Speaker 2: have always in it, not just for this conversation. I've 2137 01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:44,880 Speaker 2: always pushed back on the playoff stuff, and by the way, 2138 01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:46,920 Speaker 2: I've even pushed back a little bit from from the 2139 01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:50,080 Speaker 2: Doc Rivers perspective of some of those losses in Philadelphia, 2140 01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:52,200 Speaker 2: where it's like, Okay, you can sit there and say that, 2141 01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:55,040 Speaker 2: you know, Joel Embiid as a player in Philadelphia as 2142 01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:58,400 Speaker 2: a team is underachieved, as you said, lost a literal 2143 01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:01,879 Speaker 2: Game seven at the Buzzer to the Toronto Raptors. Otherwise, 2144 01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:06,280 Speaker 2: who knows how that season plays out. And then you know, listen, 2145 01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:09,000 Speaker 2: I was on air with Arnie Spaniard during that game 2146 01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:13,160 Speaker 2: seven Sunday night. They're playing you know, Atlanta in the 2147 01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:15,439 Speaker 2: second round, that the number one seed in the in 2148 01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:19,800 Speaker 2: the conference, and Ben Simmons he choked. I'm sorry, and 2149 01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:21,719 Speaker 2: I know it ruined his career, and I know it's 2150 01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:23,360 Speaker 2: his mental health is not a good place. I'm not 2151 01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,280 Speaker 2: trying to be a jerk about it, but mental you know, 2152 01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:28,000 Speaker 2: Ben Simmons. 2153 01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:29,240 Speaker 3: Just he just lost. 2154 01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:31,680 Speaker 2: He was afraid to shoot the basketball, and it was 2155 01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:33,840 Speaker 2: he was afraid to shoot that whole series. But that 2156 01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:35,840 Speaker 2: fourth quarter, you know, Arnie and I were on air 2157 01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:38,320 Speaker 2: when he gets the ball wide open under the basket 2158 01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:40,760 Speaker 2: for a dunk and he passes it out, and so 2159 01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:42,720 Speaker 2: it's like, that's not Joel embii's fault. The other thing too, 2160 01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:45,000 Speaker 2: I'll say about MBID, which it doesn't really have much 2161 01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:47,479 Speaker 2: to do with this, but what I will say is, 2162 01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:51,080 Speaker 2: I think through all the chaos, he's been a great 2163 01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:54,679 Speaker 2: leader and kind of a great cornerstone for that organization. 2164 01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,559 Speaker 2: I mean that Ben Simmons stuff got really dark for 2165 01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:59,960 Speaker 2: a little while. Where Ben Simmons is demanding a tree, 2166 01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:02,559 Speaker 2: He's blaming the front office, he's blaming Doc Rivers. 2167 01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:04,599 Speaker 3: You know, he's claiming they lied. 2168 01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:07,120 Speaker 2: Then he's claiming that that he has mental health problems 2169 01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:08,599 Speaker 2: and the team isn't willing to help and. 2170 01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:09,879 Speaker 3: They will put him in this situation. 2171 01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:12,200 Speaker 2: Dah Da dah and Joel mb just showed up every 2172 01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:14,840 Speaker 2: day and said, I have these guys backs. I believe 2173 01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,400 Speaker 2: in their vision, I believe in what they're doing. And basically, 2174 01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:20,439 Speaker 2: you know, it's not often that that players like when 2175 01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:22,799 Speaker 2: they're on the same team. Now, when when a Katie 2176 01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:26,200 Speaker 2: leaves Oklahoma City, yeah, Russell go after him. When you know, 2177 01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:29,720 Speaker 2: whoever leaves wherever other you know guys will go after him. 2178 01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:31,880 Speaker 2: But when he was on the team still Joel MB 2179 01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:33,559 Speaker 2: just drew the line in the sand. It was like, no, No, 2180 01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:36,400 Speaker 2: I am the pillar I have this team's back. Ben 2181 01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:39,160 Speaker 2: Simmons is not my guy in this situation. So I 2182 01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:40,760 Speaker 2: do give him credit for that. I don't know what 2183 01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:43,840 Speaker 2: it's worth. At some point, you gotta win at the 2184 01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:46,120 Speaker 2: highest level. But I do think that's something that's worth 2185 01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:47,880 Speaker 2: noting with him, is like he has been a great 2186 01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:50,200 Speaker 2: leader and, like I said, a foundational piece for that 2187 01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:52,400 Speaker 2: team through a whole lot of chaos. 2188 01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:53,000 Speaker 7: Yeah. 2189 01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:56,519 Speaker 1: I think that's fair and I think it's it's well said, 2190 01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:59,840 Speaker 1: and it does need to be mentioned. He definitely has 2191 01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:03,840 Speaker 1: more of the rock where everything else has been not 2192 01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:07,600 Speaker 1: on a very firm foundation, and they have seemingly scrambled 2193 01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:11,200 Speaker 1: around him at different times. I don't look at him 2194 01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:13,160 Speaker 1: like I look at some guys where I really don't 2195 01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:16,000 Speaker 1: feel like you can win a title with them. I 2196 01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:20,840 Speaker 1: also need to see him win a championship to really 2197 01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,280 Speaker 1: solidify how you can feel about him. Right now, he 2198 01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:26,879 Speaker 1: is just kind of in that crop of guys that's awesome, 2199 01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:31,519 Speaker 1: but that's the step that's missing, and that's where the 2200 01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,640 Speaker 1: health is. He's going to have to stay healthy for 2201 01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:37,040 Speaker 1: the brunt of a season to get them there and 2202 01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:42,960 Speaker 1: then be healthy while they're there, And I'm not my 2203 01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:46,400 Speaker 1: confidence level in that is shaky for him. I hope 2204 01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:49,479 Speaker 1: it does happen, quite frankly, because I think that a 2205 01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:52,360 Speaker 1: player at that level should be rewarded that way. But 2206 01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:55,920 Speaker 1: that's not how life works. So we will see. But 2207 01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:59,280 Speaker 1: I think it would be hard to call where he 2208 01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:03,320 Speaker 1: finds himself in any way really disappointing from a basketball 2209 01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,640 Speaker 1: standpoint outside of he hasn't had the win loss success 2210 01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:09,600 Speaker 1: in the postseason that you would want to see. But 2211 01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,920 Speaker 1: in terms of what he has brought to the franchise 2212 01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:16,960 Speaker 1: on the floor and your your previous points, I think 2213 01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:18,040 Speaker 1: those are undeniable. 2214 01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,120 Speaker 3: One last, last, last little thing before we get to 2215 01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:20,519 Speaker 3: this Sager. 2216 01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:24,000 Speaker 2: There is talk that he's going to potentially represent Team 2217 01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:26,479 Speaker 2: USA in the Olympics this summer. I think it'd be 2218 01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:29,719 Speaker 2: cool for him just to be around those Steph Curry, 2219 01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:31,760 Speaker 2: Lebron James, guys. You know you said he's you know, 2220 01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:33,640 Speaker 2: soft isn't the right word, but but maybe doesn't have 2221 01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:36,160 Speaker 2: that killer instinct. You know, you talk to those NBA, 2222 01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:38,599 Speaker 2: you know, you talk to people who cover the League, 2223 01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:42,080 Speaker 2: they'll say, you know, hey, Lebron's career really kind of 2224 01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:44,200 Speaker 2: went to the next level when he was around Kobe 2225 01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:48,040 Speaker 2: during those Olympic years, and sometimes being around those guys 2226 01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:50,120 Speaker 2: that have done at the highest level kind of allows 2227 01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:52,439 Speaker 2: other guys to kind of see the work that goes in. 2228 01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:54,880 Speaker 2: So I'm informed because I, you know, i'd like to 2229 01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:57,000 Speaker 2: see him win one before it's all said and done again. 2230 01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,200 Speaker 2: Will the injuries allow him to I don't know, I 2231 01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:01,000 Speaker 2: should add, by the way, I don't think he'll probably 2232 01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:02,479 Speaker 2: end up playing in the Olympics if he's coming off 2233 01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:05,360 Speaker 2: knee surgery, but you never know. Fox Sports Radio ERATURUS 2234 01:50:05,479 --> 01:50:09,200 Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tire rack dot Com studios. 2235 01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:11,639 Speaker 2: Gonna wrap the show here in a minute, but before 2236 01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:14,160 Speaker 2: we do, final time this evening, Steve de Seger what 2237 01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:15,200 Speaker 2: is trend dude? 2238 01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,559 Speaker 6: And Steve Kerr due to be the Olympic coach for 2239 01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:20,120 Speaker 6: the US with Mark Few of Gonzaga one of the 2240 01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:22,600 Speaker 6: assistant I didn't even know that along with Eric Spolstra 2241 01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:25,519 Speaker 6: to Ron lou and you mentioned the Game seven loss 2242 01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:28,400 Speaker 6: for Embiid's team five years ago. It wasn't just a 2243 01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:31,320 Speaker 6: buzzer beater. It was the Kawhi Leonard shot that hit 2244 01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:34,360 Speaker 6: the rim four times before thropping in. I mean, that's 2245 01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:38,040 Speaker 6: just ridiculous. As for the Lake College basketball game, We'll 2246 01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:39,960 Speaker 6: get to more hoops in a moment, but the late game, 2247 01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:42,920 Speaker 6: the WAT Conference championship has just over five minutes to go. 2248 01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:45,759 Speaker 6: One seed in the league. Grand Canyon is still leading 2249 01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:49,439 Speaker 6: U T Arlington sixty eight sixty one. Philadelphia seventy six 2250 01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:51,920 Speaker 6: Ers were winners at home tonight against Charlotte one oh 2251 01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:55,160 Speaker 6: nine ninety eight at NBA play. Charlotte's record seventeen and 2252 01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:58,599 Speaker 6: fifty one. Tobias Harris of the Sixers was also out 2253 01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:01,639 Speaker 6: tonight with a sprained ankle. Ti A Maxi had thirty points. 2254 01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:04,920 Speaker 6: Indiana and New Orleans each with home wins. Houston as well. 2255 01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:07,240 Speaker 6: Rockets have won five in a row. They beat Cleveland. 2256 01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:10,439 Speaker 6: The Cabs gave a ten day contract Marcus Morris. The 2257 01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:13,559 Speaker 6: Sons gave Isaiah Thomas a ten day contract. He'd recently 2258 01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:16,640 Speaker 6: joined a G League team. New York won at Sacramento 2259 01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:20,000 Speaker 6: ninety eight ninety one. Jalen Brunson forty two points out 2260 01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:23,200 Speaker 6: of the ninety eight. Minnesota and Oklahoma City each one 2261 01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:25,679 Speaker 6: on the road. Golden State beat the Lakers in LA 2262 01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:28,519 Speaker 6: one twenty eight one twenty one, despite forty points from 2263 01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:32,479 Speaker 6: Lebron James. Lakers star Anthony Davis with an eye injury 2264 01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:35,639 Speaker 6: left after the first quarter that i was swollen shut 2265 01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:38,679 Speaker 6: after being hit. Steph Curry returned for missing three games 2266 01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:40,920 Speaker 6: with a sprain dynkle and had thirty one points in 2267 01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:44,800 Speaker 6: this win. Chicago beat Washington won twenty seven to ninety eight, 2268 01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:47,880 Speaker 6: and as we mentioned earlier, well this was a road game, 2269 01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:50,640 Speaker 6: but it's another l for the Washington Wizards eleven and 2270 01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:55,479 Speaker 6: fifty six overall, that includes four home wins. How about 2271 01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:58,320 Speaker 6: five wins in that building in DC just this week 2272 01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:01,200 Speaker 6: for NC State, which won the aah CC Tournament final 2273 01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:06,439 Speaker 6: upsetting number four North Carolina eighty four seventy six. Number 2274 01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:08,920 Speaker 6: two ranked Yukon is going to be seated number one 2275 01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:13,800 Speaker 6: overall apparently on selection Sunday tomorrow. Connecticut beat Marquette to 2276 01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:17,000 Speaker 6: win the Big East Final seventy three fifty seven. Number 2277 01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:20,400 Speaker 6: one ranked Houston lost sixty nine to forty one against 2278 01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:24,799 Speaker 6: seventh ranked Iowa State in the Big Twelve Tournament final. Oregon, 2279 01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:28,799 Speaker 6: like NC State, an unlikely entry to the Dance. Oregon 2280 01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:32,640 Speaker 6: wins the PAC twelve seventy five sixty eights over Colorado. 2281 01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:35,479 Speaker 6: This is very bad news for bubble teams like Saint 2282 01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,639 Speaker 6: John's and Virginia. They may not be making the NCAA 2283 01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:42,599 Speaker 6: field Tomorrow. We'll see conference title wins for New Mexico, 2284 01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:45,280 Speaker 6: which beat San Diego State, for Vermont, which got a 2285 01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:49,160 Speaker 6: home win against UMass, Lowell victories for Akrons, Saint Peter's 2286 01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:52,680 Speaker 6: and Howard victories for Grambling going to the NCAA's for 2287 01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:54,960 Speaker 6: the first time ever, for Long Beach State, and for 2288 01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:58,280 Speaker 6: Western Kentucky. And in that late game about four minutes 2289 01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:01,519 Speaker 6: to go. Now, Grand Canyon trying to up its record 2290 01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:04,720 Speaker 6: to twenty nine to four, lead sixty eight sixty one 2291 01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:07,479 Speaker 6: against U T. Arlington. You talked about number three ranked 2292 01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:10,960 Speaker 6: per Due earlier. They lost in the Big Ten semifinals 2293 01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:14,120 Speaker 6: today in overtime seventy six to seventy five against Wisconsin. 2294 01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:16,680 Speaker 6: The Badger's got a layup at the end of regulation, 2295 01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:19,800 Speaker 6: so it'll be Wisconsin against thirteenth ranked Illinois in the 2296 01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:22,799 Speaker 6: Big Ten Final tomorrow. The Aliini were trailing by eleven 2297 01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:25,599 Speaker 6: at the half, but still beat Nebraska ninety eight eighty seven, 2298 01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:30,280 Speaker 6: Terrence Shannon forty points SEC tournament semifinal wins for number 2299 01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:34,719 Speaker 6: twelve Auburn and for Florida. Yes The Bears traded quarterback 2300 01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:38,240 Speaker 6: Justin Fields tonight to the Pittsburgh Steelers for a conditional 2301 01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:41,800 Speaker 6: sixth rounder next year depending on his playing time. Pittsburgh 2302 01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:46,080 Speaker 6: traded quarterback Kenny Pickett yesterday to Philadelphia. NASCAR's on Fox 2303 01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:48,679 Speaker 6: TV again this Sunday from Bristol again at three thirty 2304 01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:51,679 Speaker 6: pm Eastern Time. Ryan Blaney has the poll. The Xfinity 2305 01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,320 Speaker 6: Series was off this weekend. The trucks race tonight on 2306 01:53:54,439 --> 01:53:58,160 Speaker 6: FS one went to Christian X. Kyle Busch finished second 2307 01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:01,679 Speaker 6: at spring training today Saint Louis, Washington eight to five, 2308 01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:03,920 Speaker 6: the Wind to Miles michael Is six innings of work, 2309 01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:07,560 Speaker 6: two runs allowed. The Dodgers are playing their first exhibition 2310 01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:12,000 Speaker 6: in Seoul tonight against a Korean pro club. It's LA 2311 01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:16,320 Speaker 6: thirteen to three in the eighth Jason Hayward for RBIs 2312 01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:20,080 Speaker 6: and a long home run early from Freddie Freeman. Dodgers 2313 01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:23,160 Speaker 6: and Padres started workouts early this spring, since their regular 2314 01:54:23,200 --> 01:54:26,599 Speaker 6: season begins with two games in South Korea against each 2315 01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:29,040 Speaker 6: other Wednesday and Thursday. Back to you. 2316 01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:32,160 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Sager, Fox Sports Radio, Fox 2317 01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:35,040 Speaker 2: Sports Saturday Er Tours Jason Martin broadcasting live from the 2318 01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:36,560 Speaker 2: tyreck dot Com studios. 2319 01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:39,080 Speaker 3: We'll come back, we'll wrap the show. 2320 01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:42,280 Speaker 2: Make some picks for next next week. Fox Sports Radio, 2321 01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:48,160 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio eron Torris, Jason Martin. 2322 01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,400 Speaker 2: We are taking up till the top of the hour. 2323 01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:55,720 Speaker 2: Bernie Frado of The Bernie Fratto Show follows us, and 2324 01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:57,959 Speaker 2: we know Bernie's got a lot to say. 2325 01:54:57,880 --> 01:54:59,320 Speaker 3: On all things sports. 2326 01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:03,320 Speaker 2: I'm sure lot on college basketball, the NFL as well. 2327 01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:06,760 Speaker 2: Really quickly keeping the updated on the final college hoops 2328 01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:09,680 Speaker 2: game of the day, the Whack Championship between Grand Canyon 2329 01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:14,520 Speaker 2: and ut r Lington. Grand Canyon up seventy six to 2330 01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:18,920 Speaker 2: sixty seven with two minutes to go, and we'll keep 2331 01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:22,160 Speaker 2: you updated on that one. Several tickets punched today, jays. 2332 01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:23,960 Speaker 2: Let's just go ahead and wrap the show. A couple things, 2333 01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:25,400 Speaker 2: by the way, if you missed anything. A lot of 2334 01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:27,280 Speaker 2: college hoops tonight. We talked a lot about Perdue, We 2335 01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:30,240 Speaker 2: talked a lot about Yukon trying to go back to back. 2336 01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:32,440 Speaker 2: Are they the new face of college basketball? What do 2337 01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:34,879 Speaker 2: the boiler Makers need to do for this NCAA tournament 2338 01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:37,720 Speaker 2: to not be considered a disappointment. Make sure and go 2339 01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:41,560 Speaker 2: back download the podcast Jason A couple things, A couple 2340 01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:47,440 Speaker 2: of predictions for this week. Tomorrow, Perdue, Houston, Yukon will 2341 01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:50,040 Speaker 2: be number one seeds. Who do you think the fourth 2342 01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:52,960 Speaker 2: one will be? And I'll give you know the three 2343 01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:56,520 Speaker 2: that seem to be most realistic. Tennessee your SEC regular 2344 01:55:56,560 --> 01:56:00,680 Speaker 2: season champs, Arizona your PAC twelve regular season champ, North 2345 01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:03,240 Speaker 2: Carolina your ACC champs. 2346 01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:07,640 Speaker 1: I'd say it's North Carolina. You could make an argument 2347 01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:12,879 Speaker 1: for any of them, but the manner in which Tennessee 2348 01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:15,520 Speaker 1: and Arizona got knocked out of their tournament. You look 2349 01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:19,040 Speaker 1: at North Carolina ran into just a team on an 2350 01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:22,520 Speaker 1: all time crazy run in NC State and got beat 2351 01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:25,440 Speaker 1: in their tournament final. But what are they twenty and 2352 01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:29,120 Speaker 1: three entering that game like? They started seven to three 2353 01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:32,000 Speaker 1: in the season and then they rattled off twenty out 2354 01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:35,880 Speaker 1: of twenty three wins before that loss, right there, so 2355 01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:38,560 Speaker 1: that I think that they're I mean, you look at Tennessee, 2356 01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:41,160 Speaker 1: right Tennessee lost to Kentucky in their last regular season 2357 01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:43,120 Speaker 1: game and then lost to Mississippi State, which is a 2358 01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:46,880 Speaker 1: bad loss. We talked about Arizona. They dropped the ball 2359 01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:50,280 Speaker 1: week prior as well, losing to a not very good 2360 01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:53,839 Speaker 1: at all USC team and then didn't win their conference 2361 01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:57,160 Speaker 1: tournament either. So I feel the best right now in 2362 01:56:57,240 --> 01:56:59,560 Speaker 1: terms of where the tournament's going to see them, I 2363 01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:02,880 Speaker 1: think they're gonna send North North Carolina, probably to Charlotte. 2364 01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think you're right, and it's for most 2365 01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:08,120 Speaker 2: of the reasons that you said. You know, I think 2366 01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:12,080 Speaker 2: with Arizona, I know it's not supposed to matter, but 2367 01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:15,680 Speaker 2: they won the Pac twelve regular season, but the first 2368 01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:17,760 Speaker 2: of all, they took some really bad losses. That part matters, 2369 01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:21,320 Speaker 2: you know, at Oregon State, at Stanford that just fired 2370 01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:24,080 Speaker 2: their coaching staff at USC, like you said, but I mean, 2371 01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:28,480 Speaker 2: you know, listen, it's a two big if Colorado, Colorado 2372 01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:30,680 Speaker 2: could be one of those teams that get squeezed off 2373 01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:33,680 Speaker 2: of the bubble because of the teams that won today. 2374 01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:35,400 Speaker 2: So I guess it would be a three big conference. 2375 01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:37,640 Speaker 2: Washington State will get in alongside. I mean, it's a 2376 01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:40,520 Speaker 2: three bid conference, and I know the ACC isn't much better. 2377 01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:42,960 Speaker 2: But North Carolina, as you said, did advance further north 2378 01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:46,000 Speaker 2: Carolina really doesn't have any bad losses. I actually, I'm 2379 01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:49,960 Speaker 2: not a bracketology expert. I don't really get the argument 2380 01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:51,680 Speaker 2: for Arizona as a one seed. Now, if you want 2381 01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:54,240 Speaker 2: to talk about two seed, yeah, Theyo they deserve that, 2382 01:57:54,280 --> 01:57:56,800 Speaker 2: And I think for Arizona they'd rather be the two 2383 01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:58,480 Speaker 2: seed in the West and be able to play a 2384 01:57:58,520 --> 01:58:01,160 Speaker 2: regional potentially in Los Angels if they can make it 2385 01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:03,600 Speaker 2: that far, then you know, be a one seed and 2386 01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:07,800 Speaker 2: have to go somewhere else. But but yeah, yeah, I 2387 01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:10,840 Speaker 2: think it's probably them as well. Any other like hot 2388 01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:13,040 Speaker 2: takes or anything interesting going into the tournament. By the way, 2389 01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:15,080 Speaker 2: we didn't one thing. We didn't really talk about Kentucky. 2390 01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:17,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to be negative because I like the guy. 2391 01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:20,320 Speaker 2: I think he puts up with a lot of crap. Uh, 2392 01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:22,840 Speaker 2: what do we think is happening? What are we talking 2393 01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:26,760 Speaker 2: about on Saturday? If John Caliperry somehow loses in the 2394 01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:29,640 Speaker 2: first round or loses on a Saturday game and is 2395 01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:31,760 Speaker 2: out of the tournament by this time next week, I'm. 2396 01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:33,440 Speaker 1: Man, I think we're gonna be talking again the same 2397 01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:36,440 Speaker 1: stuff we always are. Is he overrated? H what is 2398 01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:41,200 Speaker 1: he as a game day coach. How long will Kentucky 2399 01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:44,000 Speaker 1: continue to abide by this in terms of are their 2400 01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:47,440 Speaker 1: fans gonna be okay with this? And I think it's 2401 01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:50,120 Speaker 1: gonna be the same exact story. I mean, Kentucky's been 2402 01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:52,520 Speaker 1: the ultimate jeck one High team where they've been either 2403 01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:57,600 Speaker 1: really good or they've just been bafflingly mediocre throughout much 2404 01:58:57,640 --> 01:59:00,480 Speaker 1: of this year. They could they've got all the talent 2405 01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:02,280 Speaker 1: in the world, but at the same time, like I 2406 01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:05,600 Speaker 1: tend to think they're probably about to have a rough 2407 01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:08,520 Speaker 1: NCAA tournament as well. But I don't know that cal 2408 01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:11,280 Speaker 1: Perry's job is in any kind of danger. I don't know. 2409 01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, I still think the way the 2410 01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:18,080 Speaker 2: contract is structured, he'd basically have to leave. But it's 2411 01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:20,720 Speaker 2: obviously also going to get very toxic. 2412 01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:22,280 Speaker 1: You know. 2413 01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:24,160 Speaker 2: If they have an early tournament run and they're one, 2414 01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:26,760 Speaker 2: I will say, there's years where they've been up and 2415 01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:28,480 Speaker 2: down in the regular season and I just don't think 2416 01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:30,440 Speaker 2: they're built for March this year. I will say, if 2417 01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:32,920 Speaker 2: they decide they want to show up, I still think 2418 01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:35,440 Speaker 2: they can play with just about anybody. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, 2419 01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:38,960 Speaker 2: so so, so we'll see, did you say Satnday soon, 2420 01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:39,800 Speaker 2: ipot it no. 2421 01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:41,200 Speaker 1: I just said I agree with you on that. 2422 01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure no, and so we will see. But selection 2423 01:59:44,680 --> 01:59:47,240 Speaker 2: Sunday is tomorrow. Should mentioned by the way, Brackett comes 2424 01:59:47,240 --> 01:59:50,120 Speaker 2: out what six pm Eastern time. I will be on 2425 01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:53,120 Speaker 2: air with Dan Bayer breaking it all down. We got 2426 01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:54,440 Speaker 2: to get out of here. 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