1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: It's that time time, time, time, luck and load. So 2 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: Michael Verie Show is on the air. Welcome back to 3 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: the show. Professor Josh Blattin in South Texas College of 4 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Law is Supreme Court expert widely regarded. He came to 5 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: my attention some number of years ago as sort of 6 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: the foremost expert not just on the workings of the 7 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: Supreme Court as an august body or an institution Article 8 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: three of our Constitution, but on what they're likely to 9 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 1: do and why they do it, because they are, after all, 10 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: breathing human beings, you know, what are their prejudices and 11 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: biases and ideological cool idiosyncrasies. Turns out that he's a 12 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: professor in Houston at the South Texas College of Law. 13 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: Professor he is also known as Okay smarty Pants. On 14 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: our show, I discovered a fellow I don't know if 15 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: you know of him named Corey lu or lou l 16 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: I U all Right, adjunct professor at the University of 17 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: Texas School of Law and a civil litigation attorney. And 18 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: he writes a lot. He's on a war path, and 19 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting stuff. He writes a lot about government 20 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: overreach in diversity, equity inclusion, and I suspect, because you're 21 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: seeing this more and more. He's one of these Asian 22 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: Americans who said this government is basically handcuffing Asian Americans 23 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: in order to try to help blacks, and it's wrong, 24 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: and he has spoken out against it rather forcefully. But 25 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: what came to my attention something that I asked you 26 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: about yesterday. And I'll read what he wrote and you 27 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: can explain the situation. The Fifth Circuit en Bloc, in 28 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: an opinion by Judge Andrew Oldham, holds that the Securities 29 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: in Exchange Commission acted unlawfully in approving a NASDAQ policy 30 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: that forces corporate boards to implement an identity based diversity 31 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: quota that looks at race, sex, sexual orientation, and gender. 32 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: I'll be Professor Blackman, you be student Joshua. I'll call 33 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: you mister Blackman because your professor would mister Blackman, Can 34 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: you explain to us the facts of this case and 35 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: the importance of it? 36 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 2: Sure? The sec the Securities Exchange Commission, regulates financial markets, 37 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: and they make you disclose a lot of information at 38 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: risks you were by a stock or security. Give all 39 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: these pages on page that no one reads. But in 40 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: recent years. The sec was under the Biden administration, and 41 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: they decide to impose a DEI rule. And the di 42 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: rule likes this that you must disclose the racial, gender, 43 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: and sexual sexual characteristics of your directors. And if you 44 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: don't have any of these so called minorities, you have 45 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: to basically have at least two. So basically imposes an 46 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: obligation to have so called diverse directors for a nasset company, 47 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: and you need to have a disclosure of all the 48 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: different characteristics of your members. The problem is the government 49 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: has no power to do this, right, the securities laws 50 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: are passed to prevent fraud and to make sure people 51 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: have full information about various securities. It's not meant to 52 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: promote diversity. It's not meant to mandate that board membership 53 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: has all these issues. And so the court held here 54 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: at the Fifth Circuit Quarter Appeals Health here is that 55 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: this is illegal. These diversity rules, these DEI rules, cannot 56 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: be square with the nineteen thirty four Securities Act, which 57 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: was passed by President Roosevelt and was one hundred years ago. 58 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: And this, I think is an important decision that you 59 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: can't use government power to mandate these DEI policies. 60 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: Why not They're ruling is you cannot do so? Why not? 61 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: So there's this doctrine in the law and justice. Scalia 62 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: illustrates it very, very beautifully. He says, government does not 63 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: hide elephants and mouseholes. What do you mean by that? 64 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: If the government wants something really big, they're gonna tell 65 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: us they do something really big. Right. But what happens 66 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: here is to take these old statutes, these ninety year 67 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: old statutes, they say, well, we're gonna read this word 68 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: like this, or read this word like this and put 69 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: all the stuff together. That means we can impose a 70 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: dei rule. And really, when these statutes were passed ninety 71 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: years ago, no one was thinking about these things. It 72 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: was absurd. And with the Court held here in a 73 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: sharply divided votes nine to eight, it's a very sharp 74 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 2: we divided to vote that the statute that authorizes the 75 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: sec to sort of approve these rules goes not far 76 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: enough to support the diversity mandate. 77 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: Do you see this across the country as a trend 78 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: in jurisprudence or is this just a moment where the 79 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: Trump judges, where the cases are finally making their way 80 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: through the labyrinth of you know, the district court, and 81 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: then now we're at the appellate level and the Trump 82 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: bench is flexing its muscles. 83 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a little bit of both. So 84 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: on the one hand, in recent years, the Supreme Course 85 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: and very skeptical of taking these old statutes and reimagining 86 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: them to accomplish these modern goals. That's been clear from 87 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: the Court. But also the the Circuit I think is 88 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: kind of the cutting edge of American jurisprudence. The Supreme 89 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: Course is prep the left of the Fifth Circuit. Here 90 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: we have in Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, which is okay. I 91 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: think you see here judges who are taking the Ministry 92 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: of State very seriously, the take separation powers very seriously. 93 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: And look, even though Michael is nine to eight, right, 94 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: a lot of the you know, w Bush appointees don't 95 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: vote like the Trump appointees. That's that's just the fact 96 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: of the matter. And I think we're really seeing sort 97 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 2: of the sort of manifestation of what the current originalist 98 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: movement is leading to, where you take these decisions that 99 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: I think are pretty strong. This case will almost certainly 100 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: go to the US Supreme Court, almost certainly, and we'll 101 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: see the Supreme Court agrees. I think there's a good 102 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: chance to affirm this one. 103 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: Interesting when you let's take a step back and look 104 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: at the judiciary, I mean, we get a little bit 105 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: of the Supreme Court analysis, not to the level that 106 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: you would provide, but when you look at the district 107 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: courts across the country and then of course just the 108 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: Fifth Circuit. You know, our appellate courts all the way 109 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: up at the federal court level. Where do you see 110 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: our courts today on issues like that? And of course 111 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: we're about to enter the four more years of Donald 112 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: Trump and one thing he was very good at in 113 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: his first term was stacking the judiciary with good judges. 114 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: Right, no question, Michael Trump's fingerprints on the courts is 115 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: one of the greatest accomplishments we've had in generations. I mean, 116 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: maybe not since Reagan has any president that much of 117 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: the impact in the courts. Carter. Carter's weird one. For 118 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: whatever reason. In this nineteen seventies, they created all these 119 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: new judgeps which Carter filled taking those only one term president. 120 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: But that's another story. But Trump had a huge impact. 121 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: And let me say differently, there was a study done 122 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: recently about which judges are getting excited the most, that is, 123 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: which judges are being recognized by other judges, And almost 124 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: every name of the list of Trump appointee, almost everyone. 125 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: The Biden judges have had almost pure impact on anything. 126 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: If you asked me to name ten appell at Biden judges, 127 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: I couldn't do it. I just don't know who they are. 128 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: They've had a lot of impacts on anything. 129 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: They're absolute lightweights. 130 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: I just I just don't know them. I make a 131 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: name a couple in the Fifth Circuit, maybe a few 132 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: in the sixth Circuit, and maybe a few others, but 133 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: I don't think can name ten of them. But if 134 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: you want me to name ten Trump appointees and the 135 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: Fifth Circa, I can probably do that. It's it's it's 136 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: an impact, and I think we're gonna see more of 137 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: the same. Just this slight coby. It is. When Trump 138 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 2: came into office the first time, there were a lot 139 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: of vacancies because Republicans blocked a lot of the Obama nominations, 140 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: so there were many vacancy the outset. Trump will have 141 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: far fewer vacancies when he starts next month. Coming up. 142 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, okay, mister smarty fans professor Josh Blackman in 143 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: the South Texas College Law as our guest coming up 144 00:08:49,440 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: the Michael Berry Show. Someone, what does this have to 145 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: do with Jars? Blackman? Oh? Supremes very clever? Wow. Oh 146 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: that took me a second. No. Usually before I go 147 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: on the air, I try to figure out why he's 148 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: played the music. There's always something behind it. The Supremes, Yes, 149 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: well done. So I got a nice email from a 150 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: sweet lady named Darlene Jellinek and it says, good mornings. 151 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: Are you once mentioned a show sponsor that collects vintage 152 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: small outdoor motors. Well, I'm now a widow and I'm 153 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: preparing to downsize. I have a small Evan Rude that's 154 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 1: been in the attic for decades. I suspect it's from 155 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: the sixties, but I'm not really sure. I don't want 156 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: to discard it, but I would like to see it 157 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: go to someone local who will appreciate it. It sounds 158 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: like that's your friend. Will you please let me know 159 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: his name? Thanks, Darlene Jelinette. She's in Sugar and she 160 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: gives her address and I'm gonna give that out. So 161 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: that's my friend Skip Hartley, who owns Thunderbolt Motors and Transmissions. 162 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: And if you walk into Skip's office, he's got hanging 163 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,359 Speaker 1: on the wall, he's got all sorts of old Mercury 164 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: Evan Rude Johnson motors, I mean old old motors, and 165 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: it's that's that's he just loves them and he loves 166 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: everything about him and I you know, it's funny because 167 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: that's one of those. Emily came in yesterday, my assistant, 168 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: and her town home has the old new tone appliances, 169 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: including the hole in the middle of the counter where 170 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: you can put the blender and the knife sharpener and 171 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, all that that sort of stuff, and she 172 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: doesn't have the the blender that goes on there. So 173 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: she went onto eBay and it was something like six 174 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: hundred dollars for this piece of plastic. I mean it's 175 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: not it's not it's not worth that. It's worth what 176 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: somebody will pay for it, as you know. But it 177 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: was just this idea that there are people out there 178 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: who appreciate old things, and I love and appreciate old things. 179 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: So Josh Blackman, what would be your thing that you 180 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: know it's it may not have any value to anybody else, 181 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: like an old Coca Cola brand product or RC Cola, 182 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: or you know Oliver Wendell Holmes personal pin set, what 183 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: would be or Lewis brandit's Lewis Brandie's socks that need disinfectant, 184 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: or I don't know, Justice Cardozo's shoe strings. What would 185 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: be that thing for you? 186 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 2: I got one cool thing. It was a plate, a 187 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: little plastic plate with the ABC's that I used when 188 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: I was a kid, and now my daughter uses the 189 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 2: same plate and out of that, that's just it's kind 190 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: of cool for me, of course it's cool. 191 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: I have a bowl, a green bowl that has two 192 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: eyeballs stuck onto it, and it has yellow feet under 193 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: the bottom of it, and it's the bowl. It's a 194 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: silly little bowl. It was cheap. It was at kmart 195 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: and it has a mug that goes with it. And 196 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: my mother had taken me to town. It was shopping 197 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: day and my birthday's November tenth, so it must been 198 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: right around that time. And her best friend was Billy Tucker, 199 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: and Billy's mother was Peg, who I called Aunt Peg, 200 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: and so it was the four of us. My mom, 201 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: her best friend, her best friend's mother and me and 202 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: we went to Kmart and I wasn't allowed to go in, 203 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: which was weird. And today I would just leave the 204 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: car running so we could have air conditioning. Back then, 205 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: you didn't do that. So I sat out in this 206 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: hot car and Aunt Peg came out with a white 207 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: plastic bag and she sat down saying, she's Michael, don't 208 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: touch this, okay, please don't touch it, like it was radioactive. 209 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: And we went to the next door and went to 210 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: the next door, and my curiosity got the better of 211 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: men opened it up and it was that little mug 212 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: in that little bowl, and later it was I realized 213 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: it was for my birthday. And they didn't have a 214 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: rapping department at the time. So my mom, when my 215 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: oldest son, Michael T came home, my mom said, Michael, 216 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: you probably don't want this, but I've kept it. Do 217 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: you remember this? You got it for Christmas? And I 218 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: said no, I didn't get it for Christmas. Aunt Peg 219 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: got it for I mean I sat out in the 220 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: car and she went in and bought it while I 221 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: was there at the k martin Orange on sixteenth, I 222 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: mean on MacArthur, And she said, wow, you're right how 223 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: do you remember that? It's just kind of one of 224 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: those weird things. So I'm sure that every time you 225 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: see that it makes you happy. M Where did you go, ye? 226 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: Generation I no, no. I grew up in Stonel in 227 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: New York and where Staten Isle in. 228 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: New York was Staten Island. Oh wow, okay, interesting. So 229 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: I want I want to say this before you answered 230 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: the question, for anybody who's interested in sitting and observing 231 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: Professor Blackman's course number one. I'm not going to respond 232 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: to the individual emails, It'll be too many. It will 233 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: be posted on our blast that will go out when 234 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: we get off the air this morning. So go to 235 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: Michael Berryshow dot com and subscribe. You can unsubscribe tomorrow 236 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: if you want. But that's how we're going to push 237 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: out this information. And I will post it to my 238 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: Facebook page. I have a new page and only has 239 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: about eight thousand followers because the one that had three 240 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand they shut down an election time 241 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: and I'm tired of screwing with it, so we started 242 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: all over. It has a picture of me and our logo. 243 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: So those are the two places you can get the information. 244 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: The third thing is It is unheard of that a 245 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: professor would be willing to take on the hassle of 246 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: saying to the general public, yeah, you can go through 247 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: because you've got to register with the law school. You 248 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: got to go through as a visitor and put the 249 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: notes in there, and I'll explain all that the way 250 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: he explained it, and you can come and sit in 251 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: my class. This is unheard of that he would do that, 252 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: So thank you for that. You're kind of the people's 253 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: So is this your idea to democratize legal education. 254 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: It's twofold, so it's partly selfish. First off, I love 255 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: where I teach. I love South Texas College of Law School. 256 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: I'm very proud of and I want more people to 257 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: know about it. Maybe people don't know about it. I 258 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: want them to know that. But also I believe in 259 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: teaching as many people as I can. That's why I 260 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: go on your radio show. That's why I do TV. 261 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: Does I put on my lectures on YouTube. I do 262 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: this to spread information. We have a serious gap in 263 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: civic education in this country, a serious gap, and whatever 264 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: I can do to improve this I think helps the 265 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: republic strengthen in every way. 266 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: Interesting, do you have visitors come to your class now. 267 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: We do. I mean, just the way I think this 268 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: should work is if you're interested in law school, if 269 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: you're thinking about law school, it's something that might be 270 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: in your near term future, even long term future, let's 271 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: come by. I think basically a very useful way for 272 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: people sort of see it cheing constitutional law. This spring 273 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: up came up on Mondays and Wednesdays in the morning, 274 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: so it won't work for everyone. People have jobs, I 275 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: get it right. It's understood. If your kids interested, if 276 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: your kids in college now he's on break or something, 277 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: this could be a good way to sort of learn 278 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: about what a law school classroom is. 279 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: Like. 280 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: I've had actually many of your listeners over the years, 281 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: So just email me at the Blue I said, hey, 282 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: I saw you heard you and Michael Berry. You know 283 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: I'm interested in law school. Take them by. I'm like, yeah, yeah, 284 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: And I sort of put together with the admissions office 285 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: and they sort of put it together and they come 286 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: on by it. Talked to them a few minutes, and 287 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: so it's interesting. I've had students who came to South 288 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: Texas because of this show and they've heard in the 289 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: show like that that's kind of cool. 290 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: Well, probably our most we've had some superstars, probably our 291 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: most superstar intern we've ever had Scarborough, who you know 292 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: as what's Scarborough's. 293 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: An jose Atti, Yeah, yes, Addie. Yeah. 294 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: We want her to stick to the name she started 295 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: school with, which was Scarborough, because we think it sounds 296 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: cool and we like last names for first for girls. 297 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: Adele yeah, Adele yeah, or audience. He does as you know, 298 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: is now with your great assistance clerking for Judge Hoe. 299 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 2: Right she well in a couple of years. Yeah, she's 300 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: clerking first for Judge Tipton here in Houston. 301 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: Okay. 302 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: Then you can spend a year with the Texas at 303 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: Cheese Office, Social General Office, and then she'll go for 304 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 2: a year with Judge Hoe. So it's it's you know, 305 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: we have some some brilliant kid in South Texas getting 306 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: some really really high high power positions. I'm very proud 307 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: of my students. 308 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: Well, we are very proud. I see her mother, Jeanette 309 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: via ray All, because she's a regular at the she's 310 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: a lawyer herself at the Carabas on Voss And sometimes 311 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: if I'm in there and I see her, I always 312 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: I always get my update and she always always brags 313 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: on you and and you taking great pains to help 314 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: her daughter. Professor, It's always a pleasure. I hope your 315 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: bride and and kiddos are doing well. You're welcome back anytime, 316 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: my friend. 317 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. 318 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: That will be host to the Facebook page by the 319 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: time we get off at eleven, and it will be 320 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: posted on our blast which is free for you to get. 321 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: We send it out daily in between the two shows, 322 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: and it'll be the link you go to and what 323 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: you need to do to go sit through law school class, 324 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: whether you intend to go to law school or just 325 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer. I mean, I'd like to go 326 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: see the Marine Corps, you know, for for one day, 327 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: just to watch what they do. Cool. Well, something must 328 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: be right. You're listening to Michael Berry. Oh god, there's 329 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: a guy named Seko Woods. Saiko, I assume it's Sako, 330 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: might be psycho, which should be cool. And he is 331 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: h He sent me a message and he had written 332 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: a piece about how the hazel Wood Act should extend 333 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: toward disabled veterans. It was basically an advocacy for disabled veterans, 334 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: and that he wanted me to read this thing that 335 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: he'd written, so he sends it. I went and looked 336 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: him up and said, and so he has sent me 337 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: a DM by Twitter. And I hate dms because then 338 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: it's just one more place you have to check messages. 339 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: So I tell people, don't send me messages there, don't 340 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: text me, email me emails easy. So I went there 341 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: and I looked at his profile and it said that 342 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: he lives in Cyprus and black guy. He looks like 343 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: he might, you know, kind of be like Huggy beary 344 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: star skinned Hutch. You know, when I when I look 345 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: at my white guy profiles, you know, there's like there's 346 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: Uncle j I mean Uncle Jesse, There's you know, there's 347 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: a couple of white profiles, and you're kind of one 348 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: of those five. You know, Japanese is narrowed down quite 349 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: a bit. Hispanic. You know, you're, you know, either this 350 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: guy or this guy. So Huggi Bear is a common one, 351 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: especially for in glasses and kind of lean anyway, So 352 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: he said, can I get your email address? And I 353 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: responded back, are we going to fight? And he said, no, no, 354 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: not each other. I'm interested in disabled veteran issues. And 355 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: I looked him up and I saw that he lived 356 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: in Cypress, and I said, we can start a fight 357 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: club out there called Cypress Kill Gang. And I don't 358 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: I don't think he got the Cypress. He'll yeah, technically 359 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: Cypress Hill wasn't Cypress Hill Gang. That's sugar Hill Gang. 360 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: But I thought that was very clever and I was 361 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: disappointed he didn't get it. So so that happened. There 362 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: was on college game day last week or the week before. 363 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: With Army having such a great season in the Black Nights, 364 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: I guess at this point were undefeated. They did his 365 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: story about this coach at Army named Sean Saturno and 366 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: his brother Joe. His brother Joe has Down syndrome, and 367 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: it is an absolute tearjerk, especially if you've spent any 368 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: time around a person with Down syndrome, retardation, anything like this. 369 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: And so I don't discuss it very much. But my 370 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: mother's sister, Gail, lived with my grandmother my entire life, 371 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: and when my grandmother passed, she moved in with my 372 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: parents and this went on. This went on for quite 373 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: a few years, and my dad's health began to fail. 374 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: So they got a little like a Chrysler minivan or 375 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: whatever that had been owned by somebody that had a 376 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: disabled person in it, so they could haul her around. 377 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: And my dad at the time, at probably seventy five, 378 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: would be getting out of the thing and I'd pull 379 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: up or you know, they'd come visit us, and Gale 380 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: would be with them and he'd pop the back and 381 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: he'd be back there in the back. And none of 382 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: it was mechanized. So here's my dad at seventy five 383 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: in and out of the hospital and he's pulling this 384 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: wheelchair out of the back and I said, Mom, we 385 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: cannot do this anymore. We cannot. I understand your commitment 386 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: to your sister, we cannot do this. So Orange doesn't 387 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: have a lot of facilities, but there is a little, 388 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: low budget, decent and actually better than decent place that 389 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: people can My grandmother when she was one hundred pasted there. 390 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: I have an aunt who's there now, so it's a 391 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: nice place. It's very safe, the staff cares. So we 392 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: moved her into there and my mom would go see 393 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: her every day, and she was so worried that my 394 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: Aunt Gail was very severely mentally and physically retarded, that 395 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: Aunt Gail would pine for her sister, my mother, and 396 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: that she would be so sad in this facility. Let's 397 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: just say that didn't happen. Aunt Gail loves being in 398 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: this home. So my mom would get up there every 399 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: day and go over there and sit during the day 400 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: with her, never missed. And it was just kind of 401 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: funny because Gail, who had only ever lived at home, 402 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: she'd never been out in public, had never socialized or anything. 403 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: She became the bell of the ball, the wheel her 404 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: down to the lunch and everybody would come over because 405 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: she's so positive. She always has a smile, and she 406 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: has a Rainman type knowledge of classic country musicians. So 407 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: I have to go by there so she can say, Michael, 408 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: I walk in the door before I hug her, Michael, 409 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: did you see that Dolly parton? She's thinking about cutting 410 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: another album? And no, Gail, I didn't because I hadn't 411 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: read every you know thing like them. So they did 412 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 1: this thing on Uncle Joe. So Sean Saturno and his 413 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: brother who has Down syndrome, and they're walking across the 414 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: campus and he's got his army and they go for 415 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: a walk every day and he has become Uncle Joe 416 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: to these cadets. Well, come to find out, it's just 417 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: at least once a year, you find out something about Chad, like, 418 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, he and Bill Clinton were best friends in 419 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: high school or something. It turns out that Chad knew 420 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: Uncle Joe or Joey as he was at the time 421 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: because he's Chad's age. He lived next door to Chad's 422 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: cousin and they were altar boys together. And he said 423 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: his brother, who was profiled there, Sean Saturno was an 424 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 1: absolute stud running back at our high school, Helo High School. 425 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: He was a little bit older than us, but we 426 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: would all go and watch him play. And now he's 427 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: coach at Army and the whole story that goes with it. 428 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: I just thought it was it was interesting. And have 429 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: a friend named Lisa Marino her and her husband Steve. 430 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: If you have a person like God places people in 431 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: the world to care for people like this, But people 432 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: like this, I mean, they just they take over your life. 433 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: You can't just get so emotionally invested in them. 434 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: Right. 435 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: This is Mark Chestnut and Jar Bizaar of talk radio. 436 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 3: Steaming Knock King. 437 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: To run twenty seconds. I like, I love the way 438 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: he says it sure seems warmer none it did kind 439 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: of comes it kind of goes nasal. 440 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: Man could wake up dead. Furniture seems Mormer money did. 441 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: And knock, butniture seems Mormer money did it steaming in 442 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 3: knocking size bed. See anybody go in design. 443 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: And tall parting the Great Charlie Prize out on this 444 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: day four years ago, eighty six years old, I aver 445 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: known nothing and I tried a new restaurant last night. 446 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: It was Memorial in between the Beltway and Highway six. Well, 447 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that area very well. Remember whe Ann's 448 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: Fine Gifts used to be. So did I tell the 449 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: story on their or just posted on Facebook about the 450 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: charcuterie board. I didn't tell it on there. Okay. So 451 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: two days ago we were celebrating with a friend of 452 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: ours that they were getting a new house and they 453 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: had asked us to come by. We were the first 454 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: ones that going to see the new house, and my 455 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:32,239 Speaker 1: wife said, why don't we see if Emily can get 456 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: a charcuterie board, and I'll bring a glass of champagne. 457 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 1: We're not champagne drinkers, but we always keep champagne in 458 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: case there's something to celebrate, and so so we don't 459 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: have much time to do this, so it's mid afternoon, 460 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: and so I said, hey, Emily, you think you can 461 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: grab a charcuterie board short notice? You may not be 462 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: able to. And of course we could have Federal Maria 463 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: Grill do one, or Carabas or I'm sure Russell Leabar 464 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: could probably pull one out of the trunk of his car. 465 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it just makes stuff happen, right, I don't 466 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: think Big City Wings could do a charcooterie board, but 467 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know that don't sell sam 468 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: short so anyway, but we're short on time. We need 469 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: it almost immediately. And Emily was running an errand for 470 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: me out on Memorial near I guess that's called Memorial Green. 471 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: Jonathan's rubb is out there, and maybe she was town 472 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: in Countries somewhere around there. And she said, yeah, there's 473 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: this little wine bar that popped open, and let me 474 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: see if they can do one. So she goes in 475 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 1: and there's some guy working there, and you don't know 476 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: if he's the cook or the chef or you know, 477 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: the beer delivery guy, bald guy. And when a white 478 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: man is you never really know how old he is. Right, 479 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: Chris Baker could have been sixty or he could have 480 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: been twenty four. You don't know when a white guy 481 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: shaves their head, You don't know how old they are, 482 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: and especially if they shave it clean and you don't 483 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: see where the hair was, you know, supposed to come 484 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: in on the sides. You really just don't know. So anyway, 485 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: some guy who's you know, what's he doing there? Is 486 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: he a delivery guy? We don't know? And she says, 487 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: and the restaurant's empty, it's early, it's probably right after 488 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: the lunch rush. It's early, too early for dinner and 489 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: too late for lunch. And she says, I'm sorry, Is 490 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: there any way y'all can make me a charcuterie board? 491 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: And he said, absolutely not. We got a party coming 492 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: up in an hour and I'm getting ready for it. 493 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: And so clearly he's probably waited or whatever. He works there, 494 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: and we're short staff, and I'm sorry. They're not a 495 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: full service restauran. They're more kind of paninis and salads 496 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: and wine maar. And she said, oh, it's a celebration. 497 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: It's these people are they's can first time walk into 498 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: their house. And she doesn't lay it on him thick, 499 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: but she passive aggressively puts it on him like, okay, 500 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: ruin this occasion for these people, without without the you 501 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: know plea, can you please do it? It's very according 502 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: to her. She she she has learned from me very well, 503 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: because if you put that on somebody, they're gonna say no, 504 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: just as a you know principle. But if you kind 505 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: of okay, well I'll leave. I guess Michael just died 506 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: in the hospital without having his one last wish of 507 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, a nice persudo. Wait what, that's no big deal. 508 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: Max just in the hospital he might die, and he 509 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: just said before he died, he just wanted one bite 510 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: of persudo. Mattress Mac, I'll do it right. So it's 511 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: she didn't do that, but it was. It was in 512 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: that vein. So this guy said, look, we're not really 513 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: set up for this, and I just pulled in. I 514 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: need thirty minutes and she said, well great, because I 515 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: got some air insta run. How about I leave and 516 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: come back. He said that'd be great. So she said, well, 517 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: they got an event tonight. Somebody's popping in because the 518 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: head of our company, Premiere, turns out coming into town 519 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: and so we needed a charcuterie board for that. So 520 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna do one, mother too right, and you're gonna 521 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: do you could do none or two right. Two's not 522 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: twice as much as one. It's a question of are 523 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: you gonna start getting all this stuff out? You know 524 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: it's ten thirty one and you still want breakfast. They 525 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: could make breakfast. It's just gonna mess the grille up, right, 526 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: So if you're gonna do one, do two. And the 527 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: dude was like, that's fine, okay, So she comes back 528 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: in thirty minutes, simple but beautiful Charcuteri board. You saw 529 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: it well done. All the things I needed without, all 530 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: the things I didn't need, and the things I don't 531 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: need is I don't need things that are gonna get sticky. 532 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: I don't need. My wife likes all that, the gems 533 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: and jellies and huh, there was honey. And I will 534 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: tell you if they don't put honey, I'm okay. And 535 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: some of them put honeycomb, and I don't. I'm I 536 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: don't understand. I'm not a honeycomb kid. I don't. I 537 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: don't need that, and it gets sticky. I don't. I 538 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: don't do anything that gets sticky. And we're not gonna 539 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: do But anyway, it was delicious. It had it had pickles. 540 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: Those pickles were very good. It had uh, really sharp 541 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: mustard that's a nice touch, very nice and nice French mustard. 542 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: And then it had your basic cheeses. You know, I 543 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: don't know what's happened when I don't like breathe like 544 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: I used to. I don't know what I used to 545 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: love breath. He had some some little cruit, little hard Christina, 546 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: and some presciudos and some just basic, straight up pepperonis 547 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: and it was perfectly done. And he said, I only 548 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: have these two charcuterie boards, so I'm giving them to you, 549 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: but I'm trusting you to bring them back. So she 550 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: tells me his whole story. And I thought, the place 551 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: is called vin Santo red uh oh red wine wine 552 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: read and it's out west and I just his name 553 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: is Ricardo, although it's ri c C. I don't know 554 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: if that's pronounced Richardo Gureri. He's the owner. It's him 555 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: and his wife. I think they live in the back. 556 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: It's just great. He's a take. I had to stick 557 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: Italian accent exactly like you want. That's not where we 558 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: had dinner last night. I just wanted to brag on 559 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: that plate, that place is called Vin Santo