WEBVTT - Alpha Make Brent Terhune 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:04.400 I'm John Cipher and I'm Jerry O'Shea. I was a 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.840 CIA officer stationed around the world in high threat posts 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:09.440 in Europe, Russia, and in Asia. 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:12.680 And I served in Africa, Asia, Europe, the Middle East 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:16.840 and in war zones. We sometimes created conspiracies to deceive 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:17.799 our adversaries. 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.720 Now we're going to use our expertise to deconstruct conspiracy 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.680 theories large and small. Could they be true? 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:26.280 Or are we being manipulated? 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:33.080 This is mission implausible. So today's guest is Brent Turhun. 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.800 He's a comedian and podcaster. Some people know him as 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:40.159 the right wing redneck on Facebook and social media, and 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:42.120 Brett I'm a big fan. So it's really great to 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:42.639 have you on. 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.640 Thanks guys. It's good to actually meet two of the 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:49.080 guys responsible for killing JFK. So it's just an honor 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.240 to talk to you free for decades. 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:53.040 It takes something me. 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:55.960 Hey, guys, at four, you're already well trained, so it's 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.720 good to Thanks for having me. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:00.920 Guys, Hey, can you tell just a little bit about 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:02.440 your background and how did you come up with this 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:04.000 character that's becomes so popular. 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.759 Yeah, it's I'm a stand up comedian and I've been 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:11.399 doing that for I almost like nineteen years. And then 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:15.960 I started doing these videos pre COVID, and it's a 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.280 guy that's rants in his truck. So there's no shortage 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.559 of people that go and sit in their car after 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.680 they just got booted from whatever business they were causing 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.480 a scene in and then they go and record these videos. 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.160 So I do that. 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.720 So I'd just seen on everywhere but Fox News they're 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.080 saying Trump is messing up the economy. 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:37.480 That's a blatant lion. 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:41.199 You know, you idiots are just playing checkers while he's 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.960 playing double D chess. He knows some stuff about things. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.360 I don't even care about my four oh one K. Hell, 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.960 I could barely finish a five K. What do I 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:52.440 need all them ks for? 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:53.160 Huh? 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.520 I don't care if we going to a great depression? 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.520 What do you think Zoloft is for? Just sprinkling the 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.000 water like they do the fluor ride. Please just give 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.919 me a truck that looks like Lord Croft's titties. Please 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.840 just own the libs, because in this economy, that's all 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:09.000 I can afford to own. 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.600 People always ask me what the name of the character is, 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.280 and I never expected the character to be anything so 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.919 I guess I've called him alpha male because he's the 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.040 quintessential alpha male. And you guys can see me on 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:25.600 the camera here, I'm the peak physical specimen, so as 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.840 most of those people are that record those videos. But 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:32.280 it's a lot of reacting to social stuff or political stuff, 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.640 big headlines, and then of course I have my take 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:39.120 and I'm a I love maga and can't they can 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.080 do no wrong. I'm a my president still your president, 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.080 Donald J. Trump type guy. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.760 Yeah, I'm a proud boy, and I got the tattoo 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:49.440 to prove it. 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.280 But Trump said to stand by. 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:55.880 I nearly creamed my genes, which I'm not allowed to do. 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.080 We're like a fight club that talks about fight club 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.440 all the top. 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:05.400 Like we've rebranded. You know this ain't your daddy's KKK. 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.239 It's pretty hard to fight Antifa is when you're wearing 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.280 a robe and a hood and that's the only mask 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:14.119 I'm gonna wear, by the way. 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:15.840 And what kind of beer do you drink when you 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:17.480 have thers have a beer in hand? 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:17.680 Right? 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:21.919 It used to be bud Light, guys, but then it couldn't. 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.359 It's a it's an emotional support beer, which it's a 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.639 I have a kouzi and people are like, man, you, 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.320 I bet you love that Trump is back in office, 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.960 and I'm like, nope, But I always have an emotional 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:38.120 support beer to raise to whoever we're currently boycotting. I 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.120 also have some stuff they brought back layaway, so I 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.920 put some eggason layway, so hopefully they're still good by 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:45.360 the time I'm able to pay them off. 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.400 So you're a hoosier. I've always wanted to ask somebody 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:49.119 from Indiana. 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.080 I don't know what it is. I don't know what 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.080 a hoosier? Is that your question? 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:54.560 That's not my question? 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:55.040 Okay? 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.000 I told myself what is. 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.640 The difference between Indiana sports fan puppy? 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:03.760 Oh, I don't know. Why don't you tell me. 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.480 Puppies eventually grew up and stop whining. 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.080 Yeah, I thought you were going to say something about 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.800 dribbling or something like that. 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.520 I used to live in Chicago and Indiana course is 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.640 where we got all our legal guns. So that's you 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:18.240 guys are really important part of it. 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.320 We do have a two gun minimum to even be 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:20.880 in the state. 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.400 So so I have a question for you. Yeah, yeah, 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:28.359 but the proud boys, what are they proud of? What's 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.880 the pride thing that they have that I don't see. 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:36.080 Probably stuff that they didn't control in the first place, 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.479 was their whiteness and their being a male, stuff that 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.800 they didn't even choose. But I don't know what they 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:44.400 had to be proud of, because a lot of them 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.520 will cover their face, and of course you usually cover 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.679 your face when you're very proud of things, right. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.200 So what is it about politics that lends itself to humor? Like, 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:55.440 how did you get into this character? How did you 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.159 decide that this was the thing that you were going 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:57.640 to go with. 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.240 Yeah, I'm and I'm still to not like a very 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:06.360 political person. The character I do is very overtly political. 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:10.120 But I just was watching. The impetus of the character 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:14.160 was people burning nikes in their backyards. Of course, you 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.960 know Colin Kaepernecks taking a knee, So then they're gonna 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.800 burn all their stuff that they've already paid for, and 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.919 rather than donate to somebody, they want to film a 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:27.679 video and then also go watch the game on Sunday anyway, 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.919 you know, like that's hypocritical to the bone. So that 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.120 was the impetus of the character. And then I did 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:39.000 two more videos, and then I realized this is refillable. 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.520 There's no lack of things to talk about. There's no 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:46.920 shortage of hypocrisy and politics. And also, I think in 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.400 comedy you gotta punch up. You know, you can make 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.760 jokes about a homeless guy, and sure it's funny if 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.280 you think that's funny, but that guy is also the 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:01.160 lowest rung of society with rich people and political people. 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.120 I don't really feel bad about making fun of a 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.200 guy that could lose forty billion and still be richer 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.400 than everybody. So the other one, more recently, was like, 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.960 I drove Trump's garbage truck because there was a guy 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.560 that looked that we're doppel gingers. I even showed my 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.719 wife and she goes, is that you. I'm like, no, 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.280 clearly it's not me. But there's no lack of people 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.760 that look like me. We're all on Storm the Capitol 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:31.120 magazine coming up here soon the cover. But I gotta 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.839 say it was an honor and a privilege to drive 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:38.120 garbage force one. President Trump is just a normal everyday guy. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.120 He hopped in no problem. He said, how about we 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.680 take this bad boy through McDonald's And I said, sir, 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.120 I don't think she'll fit in the drive through. He said, 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.080 it's all right. I used to work there. 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:50.960 So Brent, how would the listeners of this, you know, 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.520 not being on video, how will they know it's really 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.520 you and not like say the editor of The Atlantic. 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.360 There's a guy Benny Thompson who's being paid by the 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.120 Russians or was paid by the Russians, and he's come 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.880 up with the conspiracy theory that he spawn as a 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:09.080 conspiracy and it was that putting Jeff Goldberg on the 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:14.560 chat is five dimensional chess. They knew this would happen, 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.520 and they were so basically like it was meant you're 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:21.680 all taken in and the other like other competing ones, 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.280 and I do mix them up. My right wing influencers 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.880 is no, this is a deep state trick. This is 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.760 John and I pulling the wool over the eyes of 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.520 the senior most folks in the US. Covers two completely 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.720 contradictory explanations for what happened. And this is what we 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:41.400 struggle with is the the psychology of it, which you 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.920 I think you touch on in your and dig deeply 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.840 into in your broadcast, the psychology of people who want 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:47.720 to believe. 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.680 This stuff you've done a bunch of episodes of this 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.920 show and then have worked in the CIA forever. What 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:56.600 is it that attracts people to conspiracies like a moth 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:57.480 to the flame? 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:57.720 Is it? 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.560 Because in my head, part of it is it's the 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:04.200 community aspect. It's very much like church. You may not 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.240 even buy into the thing necessarily, but you want to 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:11.840 be around people. They're documentaries like The Beyond the Curve 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:15.760 or whatever, the Flat Earth one where these people have 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:20.320 alienated themselves from their family, literally been cut off, and 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.280 now they have no choice but to hang out with 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.400 the flat Earth people. Is that something that you guys 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:28.560 have delved into the community aspect of it. 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.040 Yeah, for sure. We talked to a couple of people 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.079 who are real experts on conspiracy theories. Yeah, we're playing 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:36.280 at it and there's a variety of things. Is the 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:40.520 community piece of it. There's the just human desire to 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.280 pretend like you're in the know, so when you're a 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.480 group of people you can say, oh, here's what's really 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.360 happening and get attention. There's a variety of things that 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.760 are very human because conspiracy theories it's not just politics, 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.760 and it's not just in America. We've seen it around 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.520 the world too. It's just it's a way of simplifying 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.840 your world. And you can take this deeper and can 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.400 go down to religion and number of things where something 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:05.520 is really complex and maybe even can't be explained. You've 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.520 got to create a pattern, create an explanation, and so 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.640 conspiracy is just a far end of that process. 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:14.840 And it's the thing of terrible things just couldn't happen. 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:18.360 There has to be a guy pulling the strings, because 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:24.040 for me to acknowledge that mass death happens regularly and 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:28.400 not just as manufactured, my mind might blow up if 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.080 I just acknowledge the truth. 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.439 The three of us, I think, are kind of sort 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:36.800 of in the same club for conspiracy theorists. The two 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.880 real enemies are a people who deal in facts and logic, 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.160 and as former agency guys, that's you know, we were 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.800 all about facts, and the other one is being made 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:51.560 fun of that punctures that puncture. So I'm a history major, 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:55.240 and one of the things that dictators fear are comedians. 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.840 Hitler crack down on community. It's really dangerous to be 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:01.520 a comedian in authoritarian government, and it gets the more 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:03.640 dangerous it gets, So. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.560 You're fucked in other words. Yeah, One of the things 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.600 that is really interesting about and maybe even the first 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:11.640 time I saw you, is that you clearly it takes 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:13.920 a while to realize it's satire, right the first time, 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.040 that there's so much stuff that is very similar to 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.640 what you're doing by people who really believe this stuff. 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:19.200 Yeah. 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.280 And so every time you do one of these, a 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.760 number of the people who comment or attack you like 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.600 you're AMaGA person. So do you get attacked by people 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.160 who misunderstand or do people eventually get it? 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.480 I do get both. And the thing is, it depends 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.160 on what tone I've tried to strike with the videos, 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.720 the garbage truck one and the one where the boat sings. 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.559 I try to, like I said, no, have no clear indicator. 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:43.640 But I've said things like I digest and I said, 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.400 let me get a I don't know what it was 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.640 in the Eating Animals one. Let me get a rent 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:51.120 and stimpy omelet or whatever I said. What person says that? 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:55.520 But also I'm pairting things that are already ten out 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.960 of ten crazy. It's even the guys from South Park. 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:03.000 They would do a Trump parody and change their character 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:07.040 mister Garrison into Trump, and then he would they whatever 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:08.920 he would say on the show, and then a week 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.720 later he would just say things that were crazier. So 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:15.800 how do you parody clown shoes? They're already big? So 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:16.920 do you go bigger? 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:17.679 You know, like. 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:23.120 I'm starting in a ten yelling so I look like 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.520 everything else. But then if you just listen, which is 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.319 a big ask on the internet, you might. But then 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.360 the worst thing is people will watch the whole thing 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.440 and quote back things to me in the comments and 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:37.200 still not understand. So I've gotten people that like their uncle, 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.880 their right wing uncle will be he shares all the 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.560 videos and it's not critical, he's like sending it to 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.800 me and that he likes it. I get that all 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.960 the time. And then I also get the left leaning people. 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.800 They watch thirty seconds of a video and then they're 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.640 quick to call me whatever. And I love a good roast. 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:58.560 So if you roast me creatively, yes, But if you're 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.400 like you're fat, we all know that I can see me, 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.760 you know, like I get those two and I you know, 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.200 I get a lot of hate messages depending on the 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:10.560 topic too, and sometimes rightfully so. But I a big 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.680 thing that I've learned is, man, if you're going to 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:16.600 comment on something on the internet, at least watch it 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.560 till the end. And you know, if I did a 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:23.199 ten minute video, it's on you to also watch all 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.720 ten minutes of it. You know, let's take a break. 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:27.360 We'll be right back. 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.680 Hey, I'm a federal employee. This is week two. Of 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.000 the five things I did last week. Number one, I 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.040 used Clippy to help write my manifesto. Number two, I 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.680 got severed because I keep work at work. Number three 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.600 I microwave fish in the break room. Number four, I 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.079 enforced the dress code. I said, why aren't you wearing 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.000 a suit? And he was like, I'm the janitor. And 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.040 I said, well, you need to thank me because I'm 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:00.440 out here making all these messes causing your jobs to security. 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.199 And if you're so smart goodwill hunting, why don't you 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.920 figure out why the break room is always thinking so bad? 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.880 I do want to ask your sort of humor lends 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.920 itself to a coastal thing. And yet you were you 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.320 were in Indiana where there are a lot of people. 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.400 It's mega country. That's just where I come from, this 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.439 mega country too, right, Yes, I go up there, And 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.960 what's it like being in Indiana? Must be like? Really 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.040 great and really weird all at the same time. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.199 I think about that too with other states too, because 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.199 as soon as you turn the election map on Indiana 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.800 turns red, it just turns red. But then there are 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.480 other people that are like me. So it's just because 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:40.280 fifty one percent of the state voted one way. And 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.440 then I when I go on the road and do 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.760 stand up, I have people come out and it'll be 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:49.600 in a Kentucky or in Iowa or the reddest of 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:53.000 red Arkansas, and I get people that come to see 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:57.040 me because they are like me in that state. It's 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.439 just because fifty one per the percent of the people 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.880 voted that there's other people, and it's always weird. When 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.040 you hear artists like I'm not going to that state 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.080 till so and so wins the election. I'm like, yeah, 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.280 that's your definitely your right. But also there are other 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.680 people that are like you that would enjoy what you do. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:16.160 So people that are creators and stuff, I'm like, just 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.560 don't give up because there are people like that. And 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:23.400 I think videos like mine, I at least think help 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.440 people not feel alone because it's you can see all 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.280 day every day of the things you just said. Jerry 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.920 of Oh, they spun it two ways of the signal thing, 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.480 and they'll make you feel one way or the other. 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.960 But then once you see somebody else, I think talk rationally, 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.800 you're like, oh, there are people like me. And I 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:42.640 get people all the time that say you got me 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.200 through COVID or whatever, and I help me get through 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.120 COVID and likewise because we could laugh or cry about things, 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.440 you know. So to answer your question about what it's 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.480 like to live in Indiana, and I'm on the road 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:59.280 every week in different states, Indiana is everywhere like leading 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.960 up to the election, and I was like, man, there 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:08.440 are so many Trump flags everywhere and places you wouldn't 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.480 even imagine would be there, and especially one of my 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.800 favorite was in Pennsylvania where somebody had just took their 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.400 twenty twenty flag and added a four at the end 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:22.640 of it. I love that kind of stuff. But it's 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.640 just a blue dot in a red state. And there's 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:28.000 no shortage of guys with the biggest trucks imaginable with 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.040 the flags. And I don't know how it's not against 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:34.280 the law to be that flagged up and just in 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:38.360 the view of everybody. But even in Saint Louis, there was. 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.800 I took a picture of it the back somebody's tailgate 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.920 of their truck. When when Joe Brandon stole the election 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:49.320 and it was Joe Biden tied up in the back 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:53.400 of the truck with a gag like that was in 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.680 Saint Louis, and I'm like, God, it's like when you 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:58.760 see a car with a bunch of weed stickers on it, 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.440 You're like, you're just kind of asking for some kind 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.560 of trouble, and you also don't care. You're proud of that. 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.400 You spent like one thousand dollars to get that on 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.640 the back of your truck. So it's everywhere, and we 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.400 saw it in this past election when so many states 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:14.040 were flipped. 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:17.360 Yeah, it's true. I really frustrating when you see online 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.160 someone says saying we should let Texas leave this country. 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.840 There's a lot of people in Texas. There's sensible, nice, 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.880 normal that don't write off other Americans. Patriotism is like 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.160 loving your country even if you really dislike your government. 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:29.400 You know, Yeah, it's. 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.920 Most of those folks are like really nice, Right, you 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.080 move in, They'll bring your cookies. I don't want to 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:38.760 filify forty percent of the population. Most of these people 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.920 are like really nice, but there's something there that is ugly. 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:47.120 There's a reason that the guy's president again, and it's 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:51.480 whether he was the president or not. That stuff still 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:55.120 exists that doesn't change hearts and minds. So that's the 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:58.280 real thing of seeing all the January sixth stuff and 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.280 everything that's transpired to the last eight years, and you're like, God, 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:05.119 you still don't care. And at a certain point you're like, 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.160 I just did it for the economy, okay, but there's 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:15.560 more at stake there than money. So well, yeah, I'm 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:20.520 a stand up comedian. What do you think my change 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:22.760 jar over there in the corner is I've had to 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.560 do laundry a few times, so it's not doing well. 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.639 But it's not surprising, but it is, and it's to 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.800 write off a whole the whole state of somewhere is. 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.320 But also at the same time, I'm like, I get it. 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:39.160 I get it. It's frustration. So what is the real 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.400 brentter you? What's your non political comedy? 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:43.480 Like, yeah, behind me on the video. I know there's 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.479 an audio platform, but I love horror movies. I do 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:50.359 a horror movie podcast and it's a niche thing. But 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:55.560 then Also it's like controlling. What is scary if I 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:57.679 know it's a movie, like a horror movie. To me, 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:02.160 is the news that's real and exists. So I do 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.880 the that podcast called the They're Coming to Get You 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.119 and you to remember it. It's like They're coming to 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.680 get you Barbara from a Night of the Living Dead. 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.280 And then the other I do another podcast called The 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:16.000 Field Trip. It's topic based. I call it like pop 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:19.200 culture Pope wri So every episode is different, and I've 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:23.720 done my assassinations and I chose three of that. I'm 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.840 probably you guys haven't covered, not the. 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:28.359 Big ones, the two of them. 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:31.399 But I'm just saying, yeah, if you did Julius Caesar, 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:36.280 I'm impressed. E two John, it's top. It's famous last words, 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:40.000 famous last meals. I just did one on a sideshow performers. 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:42.080 But that's the kind of stuff is. I do my 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.359 research and then I talk about it with a guest. 0:18:48.480 --> 0:19:00.960 More of this after a quick break. So this is implausible, 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:04.760 and we do theories and conspiracies, and you're you've got 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:08.640 us now, so give us either a your favorite conspiracy. 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.920 You can ask us what's the yeah you want to 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.080 know about our conspiracies, the CIA ones. 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.040 I have the one that I'm to talk about, but 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.159 one that I also want to bring up to you 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:22.280 guys because I was scrolling through your archive on the podcast. 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:26.680 Have you guys even talked about the Donald Trump assassination attempt? 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:30.719 Because seeing my friends online the let more left people 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.159 for years it was oh, you guys are nothing but 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:37.119 saying to the right, you guys are nothing but conspiracy theorists. 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:40.239 And as soon as that happened, man did this the 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:44.440 flip the switch flip of oh it was a fake, 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.560 it was an inside job or whatever. So do you 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.439 guys have thoughts on all that, because I'm interested to 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:51.159 hear your take on what that was. 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.520 That's a great topic and we should do it because 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:57.439 you're exactly right. Immediately, people on the left did exactly 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.560 what they complained to the people and the right to and 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:01.680 we didn't do it because, and I think I speak 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:04.639 for Jerry is immediately, I would never suggest that was 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:08.520 fake to try to I mean, to try to hit 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.800 someone in the ear far away, even the simplest of things, 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:15.720 like it's almost impossible. The one thing about having worked 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.320 in CIA, and we talk about this on the podcast 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:21.159 and having been involved in trying to maybe fool the 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:23.840