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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell that.

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Speaker 2: For me, I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so

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Speaker 2: many players say, well, I want to be happy.

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Speaker 3: You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 1: Edo State is that? Whoo whoo? And Dan and tie

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, you know we called it second Act Saturday

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Speaker 1: for a reason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we did, didn't we We.

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Speaker 1: Called it Second Act Saturday for a reason. It did

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Speaker 1: not disappoint. If nothing more, we got a bunch of

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Speaker 1: very interesting second halves, oh that I will discuss on

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Speaker 1: our Week eight Campfire episode. Welcome one, Welcome all, Gather

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Speaker 1: around the campfire. We're gonna get the fire started here momentarily,

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Speaker 1: of course, go through the headlining matchups, the so called

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Speaker 1: fire starters. As you know by now on the show.

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Speaker 1: We've also got a new game we're gonna call the

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Speaker 1: Flame Game, which we'll play. Got time for your roasts,

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Speaker 1: and of course the scary stories that must be told

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Speaker 1: around the campfire. Dan, how was your week? How are you?

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Speaker 3: This was maybe my favorite weekend. I mean I didn't

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Speaker 3: last week, so this is maybe my favorite Saturday of

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Speaker 3: the season thus far. Is that crazy to say?

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Speaker 1: You were pretty into this week. We were talking about

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Speaker 3: It's been pretty wall to wall fun. And I say

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Speaker 3: that knowing that what Ohio State and Penn State put

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Speaker 3: out onto the field wasn't exactly categorized as fun.

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Speaker 1: But no, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: No, I'd say that the season and teams and hierarchy

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Speaker 3: and things falling into place in some unexpected some expected

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Speaker 1: Pretty fun to me. I like it. It felt complete,

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Speaker 1: it felt well rounded, it felt balanced. October every year

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Speaker 1: has this way of kind of reshuffling the deck, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and giving us further clarity because of course, teams get

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Speaker 1: help us figure out, all, right, where do some of

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Speaker 1: to get into as we do this week eight. Campfire, Dan,

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Speaker 1: Shall we start up the fire? Start that fire up?

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Speaker 4: Time?

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Speaker 1: Love that sound. The big headlining matchup of the weekend

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Speaker 3: Plant your flag, Ty, Yeah? I want this headline from

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Speaker 3: you because you went through a roller coaster of emotions.

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Speaker 3: What did this game make you feel?

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Speaker 1: We did a live stream three and a half hour

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Speaker 1: evening as we record this. Twenty to twelve was the

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Speaker 1: the livestream. We were deliberating what is Franklin going to say?

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Speaker 1: What is how is he going to frame this? And

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Speaker 1: Let me put on my Penstate alumni hat for a second.

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Speaker 1: Please do and speak from that perspective. Maybe you can

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Speaker 3: Now, come on, we're sitting in front of a roaring,

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Speaker 1: And they're doing great job on the recruiting trail, but

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Speaker 1: It was Ohio State and Michigan. Now maybe not out

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Speaker 1: Maybe they get themselves in order. But the team that

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Speaker 1: they're certainly not Big ten championship caliber. They're certainly not

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Speaker 1: But that's just where they're at.

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Speaker 3: Man, Okay, So can I give the flowers? Is that

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Speaker 1: We'll give gives absolutely give some credit to ohiouse said,

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Speaker 1: you should have expected that I was gonna rant on Penzil.

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Speaker 1: No I did.

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Speaker 3: I did it. I think you fully you committed to

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Speaker 1: It's just frustrated. You know, it's really frustrating to kind

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Speaker 1: what's the matter? You could have put Sean Clifford out

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Speaker 3: Talking about a hyperd it completed a bunch of passes downfield.

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Speaker 1: Last Sean Clifford had receivers. It's a different situation. It's

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Speaker 3: I think what Penn State accomplished or didn't accomplish on

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Speaker 3: It's incredible. It played super well against Ohio State, all

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Speaker 3: It was never you know, when it was twenty to

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Speaker 3: Like I'm pretty sure the receivers that Penn State has

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Speaker 1: I was wrong. I've been wrong all year. I tell

435
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Speaker 1: you to trust me with the West Coast side. Oh

436
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Speaker 1: really replied to me before we picked this game. He said,

437
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Speaker 1: I think I'm going USC, and I'm like, you know,

438
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: Dan knows what he's talking about. I built a whole

439
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Speaker 1: thesis around USC.

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Speaker 3: But but I took Utah on the show. You had

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Speaker 3: the opportunity, no no, no, no no no, to pivot with me.

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Speaker 1: This is like forty eight hours after you told me

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Speaker 1: which direction you were going. I know, I know you

444
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Speaker 1: said I'm not in a meditation chamber. You threw me

445
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Speaker 1: a curve. You did it on purpose. I still love you. Fine, Yeah,

446
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Speaker 1: it's fine. But Utah wins thirty four thirty two, a

447
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Speaker 1: thirty eight yard field goal at the gun, a big

448
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 1: clutch run by Bryson Barnes at the very end of

449
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Speaker 1: this game to get well within field goal range and

450
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Speaker 1: set up that game winning kick. It's telling that Utah

451
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Speaker 1: with a I would call Bryson Barnes, who had a

452
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Speaker 1: pretty good game, I would.

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Speaker 3: Still say game we had a fall on. Good game,

454
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Speaker 3: follow good game.

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Speaker 1: I would still call him a part time backup because

456
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're fully committed to him. They

457
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Speaker 1: like a little bit in a Johnson, sometimes they like

458
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Speaker 1: Bryson Barnes, sometimes they don't. Maybe they'll like a more

459
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Speaker 1: after this showing. But the point stands that basically a

460
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Speaker 1: part time backup helped Utah, which is not played offense

461
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Speaker 1: all year out gain usc Yeah, and all of the

462
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Speaker 1: hype surrounding this offense, and Caleb Williams and all the

463
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Speaker 1: firepower and Lincoln Riley and oh my god, the offense,

464
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Speaker 1: and again it happens against Utah Dan once again.

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Speaker 3: Bryson Barnes is a quintessential Fourteen months ago, he was

466
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Speaker 3: running a pet smart like he's the Quinn essential because

467
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Speaker 3: Cam Rising has been there for so long, being so

468
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Speaker 3: good for so long, and Bryson Barnes has struggled this year. Right,

469
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Speaker 3: they've plateaued him, plateaued him pontoon platoon, platoon. What am

470
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Speaker 3: I what? We're luned platooned. I'm all over the place.

471
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: There's my baseball reference. Plateaued him with Nate Johnson, who

472
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Speaker 3: certainly seemed to be more of a running option. And

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Speaker 3: then they sort of turned to, you know, as we

474
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Speaker 3: all predicted a strong safety to help overhaul their offense

475
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Speaker 3: away from looking like you know, Mountain time zone Iowa.

476
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Speaker 3: And it worked against cal It. You know, they jump

477
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Speaker 3: out to it's a fourteen dollar game after like no time.

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Speaker 3: You know, us C is making making hay and executing

479
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Speaker 3: huge plays. Utah's marching downfield, running the ball downfield, finding

480
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Speaker 3: So it's Sione Vaki the sort of all purpose weapon

481
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Speaker 3: play safety lines up in the backfield, was great, catching

482
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Speaker 3: the ball out of the back.

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Speaker 1: You love this guy. You're gonna get a fat unbelievable

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Speaker 1: on there.

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Speaker 3: Of Yeah, they still make those that of thing, so

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Speaker 3: I don't know, not a sponsor hopefully still exists, but

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Speaker 3: He was terrific for them. The offensive line was very good,

488
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Speaker 3: and USC just seems to find themselves playing in these

489
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Speaker 3: games where Kayleb Williams, he had an incredible touchdown throw

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Speaker 3: where it looked like he overthrew the receiver by thirteen yards,

491
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Speaker 3: but he put enough loft on it that I'm afraid

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Speaker 3: it was Taj. I think it was Taj Washington, correct

493
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Speaker 3: me if I'm wrong here, but had an incredible touchdown throw,

494
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Speaker 3: made incredible plays with his arm and his legs, threw

495
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Speaker 3: a bad pick and it was just sort of USC fading.

496
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Speaker 3: I think they punted four out of the five drives

497
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Speaker 3: after it was fourteen all, and they scored those two touchdowns.

498
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Speaker 3: They're committing a bunch of penalties up front, you get

499
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Speaker 3: the brutal what looked to be a good roughing the

500
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Speaker 3: passer call against Bear Alexander turned out to be a

501
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Speaker 3: targeting call which extended a late drive and helped to

502
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Speaker 3: set Utah up for the game winning field goal. And

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Speaker 3: you're absolutely right, like Utah has had USC's number sort of,

504
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 3: but it was with these like big tight ends who

505
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 3: USC couldn't stop. Now it's just like a smallish safety

506
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Speaker 3: who they're lining up creatively, who can plant his foot

507
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Speaker 3: in the ground and go for twenty seven at any

508
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Speaker 3: given moment. And so Utah is a super well coached team.

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Speaker 3: They had all their timeouts. At the end of the game,

510
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Speaker 3: USC seemed to set themselves up in a good place

511
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Speaker 3: by a long punt return from Zachariah Branch. Like they

512
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Speaker 3: have these playmakers, but they just can't string together positivity

513
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Speaker 3: in a way that a more balanced team can. The

514
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 3: defense can't get off the field, the defense can't get

515
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Speaker 3: after the quarterback at all anymore. They got to the

516
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks they played in September. Quarterback Sam Hartman was very

517
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Speaker 3: clean against USC, as you remember, and Bryson Barnes for

518
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Speaker 3: the most part, was kept pretty clean in a lot

519
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Speaker 3: of big moments and ran you know it was third

520
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 3: or fourth down and long. He had that long run

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Speaker 3: down the sideline almost untouched for the majority of it. Like,

522
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Speaker 3: it's just a USC team that is a very fun,

523
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Speaker 3: entertaining half team, and a Utah team that is better

524
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Speaker 3: coached and better built to close out games because they

525
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Speaker 3: can play defense and play some gutty offense when needed.

526
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Speaker 3: So a great entertaining game. But I think pretty instructive

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Speaker 3: about where USC is and is probably heading.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Utah story continues to get more interesting.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham were told just tonight, Yeah, announced that came

530
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Speaker 1: rising out for the season.

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Speaker 3: Dan, oh, that's official. Okay, So I figured at this point,

532
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Speaker 3: why would he come back now? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Right, it figures to be Bryson Barnes and Nate Johnson

534
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Speaker 1: the rest of the way. There is a little bit

535
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Speaker 1: of the way that Kyle Whittingham has structured this team

536
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: that they're kind of living in a post quarterback world. Yeah,

537
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: they play solid defense, they're a physical team, They're continually underrated,

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Speaker 1: and yet they can.

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Speaker 3: USC ran on them pretty well though, to be honest,

540
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: you see, like Utah has been playing some pretty disappointing offenses.

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Speaker 3: They and they played Oregon State and lost to Oregon State.

542
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Speaker 3: But USC did a really nice job game planning for

543
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 3: this Utah team, and it faded and Utah made nice adjustments.

544
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Speaker 3: But USC came out really nicely against this youth team.

545
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Speaker 3: But alas, alas, here we go.

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Speaker 1: As Jason Bennetti pointed out on the broadcast, no two

547
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Speaker 1: loss team has ever made the playoff. This was USC's

548
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Speaker 1: first conference loss. I don't think we had any aspirations

549
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: that this was a playoff team after what we saw

550
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: against Notre Dame and even in some of the games

551
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Speaker 1: building up to this one. But it's official now, not

552
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: going to the playoff. I've got some thoughts on Caleb

553
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 1: Williams that we'll get to in the roast segment. That's

554
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: cool with you. Yeah, we've been talking about a lot

555
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: of negativity. Shall we talk about some of the things

556
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Speaker 1: that made us.

557
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Speaker 3: I try, I try to be balanced here, ty, I

558
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Speaker 3: try to bring some some sunshine.

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Speaker 1: All my teams lose, all my picks lose. What do

560
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: I like?

561
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 3: Why am I even here? What am I doing? You're

562
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: just eye candy at this point. Let's do it?

563
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Speaker 4: Oh on fire?

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Speaker 1: Oh well, NBA Jan torm In edition right there, shout

565
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: out Mark Tremmeel. Yeah, calling this the flame game, Dan,

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Speaker 1: These are the things. These are Saturday flames, the things

567
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: that things that the things that we're into from this

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Speaker 1: past Saturday.

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Speaker 3: So hot and spicy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a bunch. You've got a bunch. Why

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00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: don't you get started? What gave what gave you the

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00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: warm fuzzies, the warm fuzzies flames.

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Speaker 3: Look, it was it was and continues to be as

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00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: we record this episode, a very interesting day out west

575
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: in the PAC twelve. So Oregon starts slow against Washington State.

576
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: Cam Ward throws for like four hundred and thirty some

577
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Speaker 3: odd yards on nearly fifty attempts, so they didn't really

578
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Speaker 3: have a rushing attack to speak of, and Oregon stars

579
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Speaker 3: relatively slow. Washington State's competitive. I think it's Lincoln Victor

580
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: who got off really well, settled down for Washington State.

581
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Speaker 3: But it was the rushing attack, the rushing attack for Oregon,

582
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: the defensive adjustments. They get to cam Wards six times

583
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: in this game overall, and it was the talent, it

584
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: was the patients from this Oregon team. Bo Nicks didn't

585
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: make too many mistakes. I'm not still crazy about this offense,

586
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: but I'm talking to a Penn State fan, and Oregon

587
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: entered this game as like the number one points per

588
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: drive offense in America.

589
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Speaker 1: Just grab a beer.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to keep this, you know, all relative sure,

591
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: but you know, I view this through the lens of

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Speaker 3: what are they going to do against Utah this coming week?

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Speaker 3: What are they going to do against if they play

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Speaker 3: Washington again, what are they going to do against an

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Speaker 3: Oregon State team who's dangerous. So that's where I stand

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00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: right now with the Oregon offense. So the warm and

597
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: fuzzies to me with the PAC twelve, Oregon's adjustments in

598
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Speaker 3: the second half, patients on offense and just swarming on

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Speaker 3: defense of a very talented cam Ward UCLA making a

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Speaker 3: quarterback change and looking more competent and making fewer errors

601
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Speaker 3: as they're currently up comfortably against Stanford right now. The

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Speaker 3: last I checked it was twenty one nothing, So I

603
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: think there's a little bit more calm and ease right

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Speaker 3: now in Westwood slash Pasadena for the Bruins. I don't

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Speaker 3: know what's going to happen with Washington Arizona State. I'm

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Speaker 3: not currently watching it. I know it's halftime and it's

607
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: seven to three Sun Devils, and then we already talked

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Speaker 3: about Utah USC ad nauseum. And we've got a couple teams,

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Speaker 3: obviously Colorado the most notable of them off this week

610
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Speaker 3: in the PAC twelve. So that to me is where

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Speaker 3: I'm starting out with my flames Saturday, hot and spicy.

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Speaker 4: True. All right?

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Speaker 1: What gave me the warm fuz?

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Speaker 3: What gave you the warm fuzz is give me a conference?

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Speaker 3: Acc all right, Ice, he had an amazing day.

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Speaker 1: Acc had an incredible day, Absolutely incredible day. So first

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Speaker 1: and foremost credit where it is due. Out of nowhere,

633
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Speaker 1: and I do mean nowhere. The Virginia North Carolina game

634
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Speaker 1: was out of control. North Carolina came in number ten.

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00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: They were a home favorite of about twenty four points.

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Speaker 3: Big comeback win against Miami last week YEP.

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Speaker 1: One forty one thirty one last week against Miami is

638
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: a big win. Everyone's talking up top ten team. They

639
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: lose to one in five Virginia.

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Speaker 3: I saw Tony Elliott smile for the first time in

641
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Speaker 3: what felt like eighteen months.

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Speaker 1: He has not smiled in forever. Yeah, thirty one to

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Speaker 1: twenty seven was your final score. One of those deals, Dan,

644
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: where the Carolina defense of yesteryear showed back up, came

645
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: back for encore here and look, Virginia played a good game.

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Speaker 1: Virginia got a really big win for Tony Elliott on

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Speaker 1: the back of Tony Musket who played quarterback in the league, Washington,

648
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: who was the receiver who had like twelve grabs for

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Speaker 1: one fifteen in a touchdown. Virginia came to play and

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Speaker 1: North Carolina just could not get the job done. Just

651
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: not enough big moments, had big stat lines of course,

652
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: for Drake May three forty seven, two touchdowns in a

653
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: losing effort, but had the game ending interception after getting

654
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: hit by a defender. Virginia stepping up in the manner

655
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: that they did to take North Carolina basically out of

656
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: this national conversation, this playoff conversation. If you want. I

657
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: think was probably the headliner in the ACC. Now, of course,

658
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: the conference is thrown into an absolute blender over the

659
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: last couple weeks. We don't know who the second best

660
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: team is in the ACC. At this point, we feel

661
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: like Florida State is the clear number one, not just

662
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: because of what we saw this week, but from what

663
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: they've done so far this season. They've got a bunch

664
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Speaker 1: of quality wins. But Florida State right now, as it stands,

665
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: is the only unbeaten team still standing in the ACC.

666
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: And that's a Florida State Seminoles team that was down

667
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: against Duke. Duke looked really good in the first half.

668
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: It was twenty to seventeen at halftime against Duke. The

669
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: Knowles come out. They poured on in the second half.

670
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out the best way to

671
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: characterize this, and I kept coming back to professional. This

672
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: was a professional win from Florida State. I agree it

673
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: was a professional win because the deeper they got into

674
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: this game, the more the mismatches became apparent, the more

675
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: the mismatches out wide became a parent. I don't know

676
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: who's going to cover these receivers. If Jordan Travis has

677
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: time to throw. That is a problem for anybody on

678
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: this schedule. It did help that Riley Leonard got hurt.

679
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: They still would have won even if he were healthy.

680
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 3: This is probably the last good defense that Florida State's

681
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: going to face this year.

682
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: I mean, they they would have beaten Duke no matter what.

683
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: But Riley Leonard gets hurt again, hurts his ankle. He

684
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: was out for the game.

685
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 3: Backup, couldn't do anything. Yeah.

686
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: Now, Florida State's just an extremely scary team to try

687
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: and match up with gout a guy, and I'm excited

688
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: to see what they do. I mean, look, they're definitely

689
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: not short of a clunker at some point, or not

690
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: above a clunker at some point, excuse me. But for

691
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: the time being, this was a professional win, is what

692
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: I settled on.

693
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a patient win. And that's the word

694
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 3: I used for Oregon too. It was very patient of

695
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 3: Florida State, you know, understanding what the Duke defense was doing,

696
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 3: not try to bomb it down the field to Keon

697
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: Coleman and get him two hundred yards. It was it

698
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: was Johnny Wilson patient, it was Jdy Benson patient, it

699
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: was Jordan Travis seemingly getting lost in the wash and

700
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: then finding a way out and tossing it for six

701
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: yards on third and five or whatever, or scrambling for

702
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: the yards and sliding. It was sort of to apologize

703
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: to Sam Hanky. It was trusting the process, right, It

704
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: was we know we're more talented, we know we can

705
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: take care of business against a tough team, but it's

706
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: going to take four quarters to do so. I don't

707
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: really score two or three touchdowns to close it out

708
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: against Duke, I think in the fourth quarter, and that's

709
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 3: it showed. It was a really impressive win from Florida State.

710
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: And you're right that the number two in the ACC

711
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 3: is still probably North Carolina because of their ceiling. I

712
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: know Miami pulled it out against Clemson tonight, and it

713
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: was awfully close against Clemson. With Florida State, they I

714
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 3: think only led when they won the game. But it's

715
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 3: it's a it's not even top heavy. It's Florda to

716
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 3: State heavy, and even Florida State is not really separating itself.

717
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: And that's okay because winning is better than losing ty

718
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: as we all agree.

719
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: And then the final I think interesting point that gave

720
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: me the flames of Saturday flames if you will on

721
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: this year's Saturday, the Miami game, the Miami Clemson game

722
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: is really good. That was a good football game, and

723
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: I think second act Saturday was in full effect here,

724
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: especially for Miami bear in mid mayde it. Miami needed

725
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: it bad, They needed bad. Bradley wrote about it in

726
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: our newsletter this week that we sent out. Miami was

727
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: in need of a win in a big way. They

728
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 1: lost to Georgia Tech in that heartbreaker, that inconceivable loss

729
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: that they had two weeks ago. Then they lose to

730
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: North Carolina last week in the manner that they did.

731
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: Now they knock off Clemson in double overtime. Naturally, that's

732
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: the way things work in the ACC, as everybody jumbles about,

733
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: and whatever you think of Clemson, Yeah, whatever you think

734
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: of Clemson, it's a good win. It was good with

735
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: and these are two teams with two losses, and a

736
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: loss for either of them was going to spell some

737
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: really bad news. So Miami goes in there with the

738
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: backup quarterback because TVD was basically an O go and

739
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 1: the defense steps up, holds Clemson a four or fourteen

740
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: on third downs, forces three turnovers. Miami finally gets a

741
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: home conference win and gets the monkey off their back.

742
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: I believe twenty eight to twenty was the final score.

743
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: I thought this was a really big win for Miami.

744
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what the future holds for this team,

745
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: but to lose in the manner that they did for

746
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: two consecutive weeks, to come back home against arguably a

747
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: better team than either of those two and win, that

748
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: is really impressive to me. Man and Kate Klubnick took

749
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: some hits. He took some shots.

750
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a nice connection with I think it

751
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: was Brenning Stool the tight end and you know through

752
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: I don't want to call him fifty to fifty balls,

753
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: but like, I'm gonna put this ball somewhere in your

754
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 3: your catch zone, your catch radar radius, excuse me, hopefully

755
00:37:58,960 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: you can make a play.

756
00:37:59,680 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 5: And he did.

757
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 3: He made plays. But it was Miami, even with that

758
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: freshman quarterback, whether or not he was leaning on Colby Young,

759
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 3: whether or not they got a couple, you know, I mean,

760
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 3: they needed those big plays on the ground and then

761
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: to come through an overtime on fourth down. You know,

762
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: I didn't love that call, but you know, I love

763
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: any call that works. And it just didn't work with

764
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: kid club Nick trying to keep and run and it

765
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: was a great defensive play for Miami. Miami stepped it

766
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 3: up in overtime. And you know, as you mentioned first

767
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 3: conference when at home for Mario christaball in, Miami had

768
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: to come at some point. Yeah, and I was a

769
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 3: little disappointed. And this is not me picking on Miami,

770
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: but like, I don't know, man, Clemson's coming to town.

771
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: You're not filling your stadium. I know this is like

772
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: a thing that people harp on Miami about, like, come on, guys,

773
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 3: bad look.

774
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: All right, give me some Saturday flames for a different conference. Okay,

775
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,959
Speaker 1: So obviously LSU took care of business. Love the end zone.

776
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: By the way, there was the Camo. It was awesome

777
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: LSU taking on Army. They beat him sixty two to nothing.

778
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: There's not a lot to take away from this game

779
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: than the fact that once again sets up a huge

780
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: Alabama matchup in a couple of weeks. How about miszoo.

781
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 3: South Carolina lost in the way that if you had

782
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: told me this was going to be the final score.

783
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: Your final score was thirty four to twelve. South Carolina

784
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: couldn't protect Spencer Rattler.

785
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: He was on the run. He was shelled by what

786
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: hasn't been a super consistent Missoo defense. But it was

787
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: really the Miszoo rushing attack that got me going, that

788
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: got my heart all hot and flaming. Is that what

789
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 3: we're talking about? Touch Sure?

790
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: Saturday Flames?

791
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 3: Saturday Flames. Brady Cook was quite good. The passing game

792
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: was in a nice place, but to me, it was

793
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 3: hounding Spencer Rattler. It was overwhelming the South Carolina offensive

794
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: line once again, and there was just something about watching

795
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: Cody Schrader. The lanes were wide open. They were like

796
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 3: suburban freeway lanes at four am, just huge and luxurious lanes.

797
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: To the carpool lane, shall.

798
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 3: We It was look and again, this is not something

799
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: to take for granted, obviously if you're a Missouri fan

800
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 3: with where the offense has been these past couple of years.

801
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: But taking care of business in the same way that

802
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: I said, it's going to be fun and weird, and

803
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to Alabama LSU Missoo Georgia is gonna

804
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 3: be fun. It should be fun. I hope it's fun.

805
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: It has all the makings of fun, and that's what

806
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: filled my heart On the flip side, Mikey Wright and

807
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 3: Mississippi State seven, kJ Jefferson and Arkansas tree was.

808
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: This not sort of like the budget Iowa Minnesota of

809
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: the day.

810
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: I don't know who has it worse right now. I mean, look,

811
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: I know who has it worse because Ioways been winning

812
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 3: games in the manner in which they lost that game,

813
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 3: which I'm sure we're going to get too. Shortly to

814
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 3: be an Arkansas fan and to be immediately teased with

815
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 3: promising results, with strong receivers developing with playmakers on defense,

816
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: maybe a little bit less so, but Barry Odam was

817
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: creative with this defense. And then where this Arkansas team

818
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: is now with a defense that actually still plays pretty

819
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 3: hard and has playmakers, and an offense that can't protect

820
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 3: kJ Jefferson at all. I mean he's short arming dudes by.

821
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: Like I know seven years you're tell me this gives

822
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: you the warm fuzzies.

823
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it gives me the warm fuzzies. The

824
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 3: fact that it's over and we can move past this

825
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: game gives me the.

826
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: Warm because I had this in my Scary Stories segment,

827
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: which is coming up in a little bit, because the

828
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: offense was was not good. Now, this was a light

829
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: day in the SEC. This was Arkansas losing six in

830
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: a row now and Arkansas being pretty much on the

831
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: verge of Bowl ineligibility unless they go four and oh.

832
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 3: How about a little bit of fight from Auburn gave

833
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: me the warm fuzzies. You can't throw the ball and

834
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 3: you're still giving ole Miss a game was fourteen all

835
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: deeper into this one. So the fight from Auburn in

836
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 3: losing efforts, I suppose is something that I'm into because

837
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 3: I like competitive games. I have no idea what I

838
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: feel about Ole Miss, who seems to play exactly to

839
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: the level. They're like a rich Man's Boston College the

840
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: way we've talked about them, like they play exactly to

841
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: the level of everybody that they play. So good for

842
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: Auburn for showing that fight. That's the warm fuzzy, the.

843
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: Two warm fuzzies for me in the Big twelve. My

844
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State Cowboys.

845
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 3: Baby, Yeah, the team that you were positive was going

846
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: to have a terrific bounce back here.

847
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't. But I was dunking on Oklahoma State pretty

848
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: much all year. Yeah, to my credit, I did recognize

849
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: I recognized.

850
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 3: I may pat myself on the back.

851
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: I may pat my Hey, you do it all the time,

852
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: don't start I do if I if I can pat

853
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: myself in the back. Here for a second, I did

854
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: recognize the air of my ways. Okay, I said after

855
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: that bye week, I felt like something quick because remember

856
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: they be k State.

857
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, now offensive line looks a lot more together. Yeah,

858
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 3: a lot more together.

859
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State may be the only team I can accurately

860
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: predict right now. I'm serious, They're the only team I understand.

861
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: And it's weird and it probably shouldn't be that way.

862
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: But forty eight thirty four on the road, Yeah, in

863
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: Morgantown over West Virginia. Another absolute monster game from Ali Gordon,

864
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: who had two eighty four and four touchdowns in this game. Dude, dude, dude, Yeah,

865
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: that's all just a dude.

866
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

867
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: The Pokes now get this. I almost can't believe I'm

868
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: saying it. The Pokes are a whisper quiet five and

869
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: two oh Cincinnati next week. Then they have bed Lim

870
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: at home in week ten. The Bedlem game is really

871
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: the last big one left in the schedule They've got,

872
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: I think a schedule that's very manageable the rest of

873
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: the way. Oh yeah, I could totally see nine and three.

874
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: I could totally see nine and three.

875
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 6: Five.

876
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 3: I don't know how it exists in the Big twelve

877
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: that every Big Twelve team has an amazing back half

878
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: of their schedule. We're like, oh, let's take a look

879
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 3: at this team's okay, so they've got Baylor, they've got Cincinnati,

880
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 3: they've got Kansas, like and Kansas is good obviously, but

881
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: they don't have much of a defense. Like every team

882
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: in the Big twelve seems to have it very easy

883
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: in the back half, and it's incredible.

884
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: The other team in the Big Twelve that I want

885
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: to call out is Case State. Case State kicked the

886
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: absolute tar out of TCU.

887
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: Yes they did.

888
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: They absolutely kick the crap out of TCU. And you know,

889
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: we were we were Hoover Approvers and we were into

890
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: the quarterback change at tc Nah, was like, nah, we're

891
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 1: not having it out.

892
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: Still good.

893
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they outgained TCU five eighty seven to three hundred

894
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: and rushed for three forty three on the crowd cool.

895
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 3: I saw my guy of Barry Johnson doing work once again.

896
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go, there you go, and

897
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: let me close out the big ten here, just some

898
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: of the warm fuzzies there. We do scary stories. We

899
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: have other stuff here to get to a Michigan is ridiculous.

900
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: They're ridiculous. They absolutely annihilated Michigan State forty nine to nothing.

901
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: And that's not unexpected because I think we expected this

902
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: would be a bit of a runaway game, even if

903
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: it were within the points spread, which was twenty four.

904
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 6: And a half.

905
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: But I think especially after the last seventy two hours

906
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: of distractions with all the sign ceiling stuff and probably

907
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: a lot of questioning as to whether or not Michigan

908
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: is as good as everyone thinks, or if it's because

909
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: of something else, i e. Sheating. I think they used that.

910
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: I think they use that to focus this team. And

911
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: it says a lot about them that they did not

912
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: start this game slowly. That has been a Michigan thing

913
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: this season, starting a little bit slowly. And they went

914
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: out there on the road against their in state rival

915
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: and they went up fourteen to nothing without blinking, and

916
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: then they poured it on. They did not let up

917
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: the entire way through. They scored I want to say,

918
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: within the last couple minutes when the game was well

919
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: in hand already, so this was speaking of professional wins.

920
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: This was a very professional win from Michigan taking care

921
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: of business and says you like to say, taking care

922
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: of business off and overrated? Underrated?

923
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 3: Excuse me? Underrated?

924
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And speaking of taking care of business, how about

925
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: the Rutgers Scarlet Knights, try to tell you getting ball eligible?

926
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: Dan getting ball eligible? They needed to do it this week.

927
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: They have other opportunities, but to do it this week

928
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: would have definitely taken a lot of pressure off that roster.

929
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: They win by seventeen on the road over Indiana. They

930
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: did it despite Gavin Wimsat going five of twelve passing

931
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: for thirty nine yards. The way that they did it

932
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: was because Gavin Wimsatt also ran for one forty three

933
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: and three touchdowns alongside Kyle Manongai, who I believe is

934
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: still the Big Tens leading rusher, who added about one

935
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: hundred and nine more yards two seventy six on the

936
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: ground for the Scarlet Knights playing the style of football

937
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: that we know Greg Seanna wants to play, so good

938
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: on them. Bill eligibility is pretty exciting.

939
00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: I think you just don't understand Rutgers offensive football. You

940
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 3: just don't appreciate a tie. They're like the jam band

941
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 3: of college football, right. You don't know how to listen.

942
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 3: You don't know how to take it in. By the way,

943
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 3: Ty and I are going to be circling the country

944
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: following manog Guy and Whimsat on tour.

945
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: Don't they sound like jam bance a little bit?

946
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 3: Dude?

947
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: I love Mananguy when they were playing clubs. Tie.

948
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 3: You can't tell me otherwise. You have to really know

949
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 3: how to listen to Mananguy and Whimsat. That's all I'm saying.

950
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: You don't a pre four of whatever. Who cares tie?

951
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: This is winning football happening in Piscataway, New Jersey.

952
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: Hey, good for him, Man, good for you. Got any

953
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: other flames before we get to our scary stories? Well,

954
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: so that was it for the Big ten Flames of yours? Yeah,

955
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: I got some scary stories from the Big Ten. We'll

956
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: get time. Minnesota.

957
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: It was a It was a very fun active group

958
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: of five weekends, if I may say so myself. First

959
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 3: of all, Biff Pogey with his cutoff shirt. They beat Charlotte.

960
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: Excuse me, Charlotte beat ECU obviously. Biff Pogy the head

961
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 3: coach of Charlotte showing off the the guns.

962
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: He looked like he was riding a peloton the entire

963
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: game and just showed up for the interview afterwards wearing

964
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: whatever he wore on the bike. He looked like he

965
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: came in fifth place in the Philly Wing Bowl.

966
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 2: Look.

967
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 3: I gave him my all, what are you gonna do?

968
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 3: She's tiny but super effective. North Texas kind of storm

969
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 3: backed against Tulane. The me and Green held on Are

970
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 3: we still talking about Biff?

971
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 6: No? Keep going?

972
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: That's good.

973
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 6: J T.

974
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 3: Daniels to Luke McCaffrey. It's it's big ty. It keeps happening.

975
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 3: Rice keeps winning. They beat Tulsa Kevin Wilson and Tulsa

976
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 3: Jamie Chadwells Liberty seven and zero. They won somewhat late

977
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: over Middle Tennessee, but they win. Toledo held on TYE.

978
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 3: They jumped out to a comfortable lead against Miami, Ohio.

979
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 3: This was a game that everybody that watches MAC football

980
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 3: had circled, and Toledo on the road I think has

981
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,959
Speaker 3: one point favorites managed to hold on the more complete team.

982
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: So that's what I took away from from looking around

983
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: the country at the group of five conferences, but a

984
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 3: fun one nevertheless. James Madison keeps on winning. Jordan McLeod

985
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 3: still very much a dude for the duke. So all right,

986
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: no fun time.

987
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: Do we have any dudes?

988
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 3: Let's do dude Saturday flames. So I mentioned Alie Gordon

989
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 3: Sioni Vaki for you time. I'm just going to shout

990
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 3: him out once again. Bucky Irving both through the air

991
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 3: and on the ground for Oregon. Uh Na Kwon Wright

992
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 3: for South Florida one hundred and eighty six yards on

993
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: the ground and a win over Yukon. Nothing to you know,

994
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: turn your nose at Marvin Harrison Junior. Kind of a

995
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 3: retired dude, but like was kind of the only dude

996
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: on the field for an offense. What else do I hear?

997
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 3: Lincoln Victor for Wazoo in that game, goes for one

998
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty against a good Oregon defense. Caden Salter

999
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 3: for Liberty all over the place for them, Haines King

1000
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 3: Georgia Tach you didn't mention that. Maybe it's in your

1001
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 3: Georgia Tech BC Scary story segment, but he was quite effective,

1002
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: especially on the ground, And I think that's all I

1003
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 3: sort of have right now.

1004
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you got to give a shout out

1005
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: to Thomas ca. Yeah, he was also to college in

1006
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 1: a big win over Georgia Tech. Haynes King was sort

1007
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: of the offense for Georgia Tech. But Thomas Castillanos remains

1008
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: one of the underrated stories in the a SEC this

1009
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: season when he's out there, he's been pretty effective. Not

1010
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: not much around him, but with a nice win.

1011
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 3: And also Donovan Smith in a losing effort which I'm

1012
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 3: sure you're going to get to for Houston against Texas.

1013
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: Dan, give me that scary story.

1014
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: I think this is it. Thanks Bell, Thanks Bell on

1015
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: your bamboo float.

1016
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: Sounds marvelous scary stories. We call this the Racul Lombardie

1017
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: Picture Show. Yeah, we'll get to your reverbs.

1018
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 3: Your most long picture show, Rocky.

1019
00:50:54,560 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: So, a couple of things for me. The first, if

1020
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: we're talking about weird things and bad performances and injuries

1021
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: of note and whatnot, UCF's two point conversion attempt on

1022
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: the road in Norman. So, UCF plays an extremely solid

1023
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: football game against the sixth rngth Sooners again in Norman. Yeah,

1024
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: the Sooners won thirty one to twenty nine after UCF

1025
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: called a double pass on their attempt to tie it.

1026
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: It was so everybody was kind of calling this everybody.

1027
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: It was like double pass week. Everybody was calling the

1028
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: double pass. This one was so bad and Oklahoma did

1029
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: not bite at all that the guy didn't even have

1030
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: a chance to throw the second pass. It was a

1031
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: backwards pass, a lateral out to the left hand side.

1032
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: Nothing was open. Guy gets knocked down, Oklahoma survives. That

1033
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: would have been UCF's chance to tie it. I come

1034
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: back to this time and again, never underestimate the play

1035
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: caller's ability to over think the biggest call of the game. Yeah,

1036
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: never underestimate it. These guys need a first class pass

1037
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: on your underthink express. They just always overthink it in

1038
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: the big spots, and this was an opportunity for UCF

1039
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: on the road again, big spot against Oklahoma. I thought

1040
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: they played really well against Oklahoma. Obviously, I love watching

1041
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: indicate that was it.

1042
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 3: RJ. Harvey the running back for UCF with some big plays.

1043
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: Here's here's the only thing pushback. I'm going to a

1044
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: lot of big plays in this game, a lot of

1045
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 3: big plays, a lot of big plays. I thought Dylan

1046
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: Gabriel played admirably. The only rule with fourth and short

1047
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: third and short two point conversions, overtime, big moments, the

1048
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,959
Speaker 3: only rule is has to work. So you can say,

1049
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: hated that call. They needed to just underthink it and

1050
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 3: go if it always works in practice, if it's worked

1051
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 3: before in games. The only rule, and this is a

1052
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 3: book too, so I'm just copying it. The only rule

1053
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 3: is it has to work, because if it works, you're

1054
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 3: gonna come on the show and say, what the stones

1055
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 3: on Gus malson to call that and for his team

1056
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 3: to execute it. But you're not wrong.

1057
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: You run a play like that. It's hard enough in.

1058
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 3: Touch you cut off half the field.

1059
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 1: That's hard enough in tight windows to complete any pass.

1060
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: Now you're asking them to complete two and one may

1061
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: be uncontested, but there's a lot that needs to go right.

1062
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: I admire, I admire the gumption to go for a

1063
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: play like that, and you're right, if it works, he's

1064
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: a genius. But it didn't. Thirty one twenty nine. By

1065
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: the way, we were scoreboard watching the whole time, doing

1066
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: our live stream. A week. Yeah, we had a lot

1067
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: of n State Ohio State game, so I went back.

1068
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: I watched the express version of this, and I'm going

1069
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: to dive into it more this week. But as you said,

1070
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: a lot of big plays. Oklahoma is shuffling their line

1071
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: right now because of injury, and you see F really

1072
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: like took advantage of that. But Oklahoma with a late

1073
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: push on the ground in the fourth quarter rush for

1074
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: nearly one hundred yards of the fourth quarter to get

1075
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: to seven or zero. So a bit of a scare

1076
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma. Definitely a bit of a scare for UCF

1077
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 1: with the way they called that final two point conversion.

1078
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: But that scary story number one for me. The other

1079
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: one is and you mentioned the Texas game, Quinn Ewers

1080
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: went down again, Yes he did so. Quinn Eewers goes

1081
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: down late third quarter with what Sark referred to as

1082
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: a shoulder injury. Said, we should know more tomorrow. It's

1083
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 1: concerning to me. I saw some people on Twitter talking

1084
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: about potentially a collarbone that would not which is what

1085
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: I think he had last year. Right, That would not

1086
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: be good. That would not be good. So he had

1087
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: the injury issue a year ago. This is something to

1088
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: watch on the Texas side. Texas also went up twenty

1089
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: one nil and then gave it all back gave it

1090
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: all back, needed to refocus in the final eighteen minutes

1091
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: to get the job done, and Houston had a shot

1092
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: but also could not get the job done. If there

1093
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: is any silver lining whatsoever, and I do not mean

1094
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: to imply that Quinn Ewers getting hurt is is at

1095
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: all good. If there is any silver lining to having

1096
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: to sub out Quinnewers, it is having to sub in

1097
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: Malik Murphy, who is a man. He is He is

1098
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: a monster of a man, and I have been dying

1099
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: to see more of Malik Murphy. I always expected that

1100
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: it would be somewhere else after a transfer, and it

1101
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 1: probably still will be. But depending on what happens here

1102
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: with Quinn Eewers, Texas almost gave this one away. They didn't,

1103
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have to wait and see what happens

1104
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: with Quinn.

1105
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't do much other than hand the ball off.

1106
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 3: And by the way, and hope quin yours is all right.

1107
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 3: These two running backs for Texas kind of stop on

1108
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 3: the dime and explode like the best of them. CJ.

1109
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 3: Baxter and who's the guy the Jonathan Brooks. They're really fun.

1110
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 3: They're really fun, and they're not b John Robinson but

1111
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 3: they can take this team pretty far if they can

1112
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 3: at least cause concern of early last to open up

1113
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 3: play action for whoever's playing quarterback, be it Quin yours

1114
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 3: or a backup moving forward. Thought the spot was terrible.

1115
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 3: At the end of the game, I thought Houston converted

1116
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 3: the short yardage play and I think it was a

1117
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 3: third down. It looked like they pushed him. For me,

1118
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 3: it looked like prey clearly to me, it looked like his.

1119
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: Body and the ball were over at the line to gain.

1120
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 3: So I don't Yeah, and Dana Holgersson know what that means.

1121
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 3: He's pissed after the game they come up short on

1122
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 3: fourth and two or whatever. It wasn't a terrible call,

1123
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 3: but I didn't think they should have had to do

1124
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 3: it in the first place. So good fight from Houston,

1125
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 3: Good for Texas for holding on.

1126
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: Final scary story for me, like, yeah, Iowa Minnesota, it

1127
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: was Yeah. In one sense, it was exactly what we

1128
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be. It was exactly what

1129
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 1: we thought it was going to be. To quote Dennis Green,

1130
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: they are who we thought they were completely twelve to

1131
00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: ten Minnesota wins. It was so ugly, it was beautiful.

1132
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: This game coming nowhere near the total right nowhere near

1133
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: the total opened. I think when we talked about it

1134
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: at thirty two and a half at kickoff, I think

1135
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: it came down to thirty or thirty and a half.

1136
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: It was extremely low and still nowhere close, nowhere close

1137
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: to it. Iowa has been playing this brand of football

1138
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: every week, so it was not unexpected. They kind of

1139
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: had it coming in the manner that they lost this game. Yeah,

1140
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: and I feel bad saying about that. I'm legitimately not

1141
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: trying to dunk on Iowa for the manner that they lost,

1142
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,479
Speaker 1: because I know this is rivalry and the Floyd game

1143
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: is fun and all that, But you play this brand

1144
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: of football, you leave yourself such a thin margin for error.

1145
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: You kind of have something like this coming. So what

1146
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: basically goes down at the end of this game, and

1147
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can read about this online. There is

1148
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: a crazy sequence in the last four minutes where Iowa

1149
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: gets the ball. Of course, with their backup quarterback who

1150
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: really doesn't do anything does gives them nothing at quarterback, right,

1151
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: They've got the ball late in the game, Kirk Ferns

1152
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: has a decision to make it's fourth in well and

1153
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: they decide they're gonna punt with like I don't know,

1154
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: two minutes left, two and a half minutes left, something

1155
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: like that. They have all their timeouts, and so it

1156
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: makes sense to give the ball back to Minnesota. Minnesota

1157
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: hadn't done anything on offense all day. Give the ball

1158
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: back to Minnesota. Minnesota goes three and out on the

1159
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: ensuing punt. It is one of those deals where it

1160
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: lands off to the left and well short of the

1161
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: punt returner, Cooper Dejen de gen des.

1162
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: All American Degen all American corner.

1163
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: All American corner lands short of him, bounces into his

1164
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: hands and as he is running to get the ball,

1165
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: he is pointing with his right hand and with his

1166
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: left hand, sort of a combination of making a gesture

1167
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: along with I think, just swinging his arm as he's running,

1168
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: like you would normally do if you run, he'd.

1169
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 3: Like you would indicate to somebody that you're on the phone,

1170
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 3: like hold on, hold on, hold on.

1171
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 5: Right.

1172
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: He's waving wasn't obvious.

1173
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 3: I didn't.

1174
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: He was clearly waving his hand behind him. I don't know.

1175
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: It looked to me like he was just running and

1176
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: he was moving his arm a little bit. I don't

1177
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: see how they could interpret that as a signal, but okay, whatever,

1178
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: So he gets the ball, he picks it up, he

1179
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: puts some moves on guys, like crazy moves, runs for

1180
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Everybody's going crazy. Yeah, refs throw a flag,

1181
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: they go to review it. Actually, I don't even know

1182
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: if there was a flag. They just go to review it.

1183
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: I didn't think this was a reviewable scenario. But whatever,

1184
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: they take it into review, they come out of review,

1185
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: they decide, oh, by the way, that was an invalid

1186
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: fair catch signal. Therefore it's a dead ball at that point.

1187
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: Which is the rule? Which is the rule? Now there

1188
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: is a rule, it's very vaguely worded. Yeah, it's open

1189
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: to interpretation. What's considered a valid fair catch signal is

1190
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: when you put your hand above your head and wave.

1191
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: That's what everybody does. You are allowed to point, as

1192
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: he did with his right hand. But if that was

1193
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: if that also includes some sort of waving motion with

1194
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: the other hand, then they rule it an invalid signal

1195
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: because obviously, you know, if you're on the punt coverage team,

1196
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: you see a hand gesture that is your cue to

1197
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: lay off represents an unfair advantage. So it is genuinely

1198
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: a good rule.

1199
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 3: Which I don't know if I saw Minnesota players layoff completely.

1200
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: The guys I saw Minnesota fans online were like, wow,

1201
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: our punt coverage team led off. No, they didn't. There

1202
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: were like six guys there. They couldn't tackle them. I

1203
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: don't know why the rest didn't blow it dead in

1204
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: the moment. That would have been the easiest way to

1205
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: play it if they thought he signaled. But right. Nonetheless,

1206
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: whether it was reviewable or not, they took it into review.

1207
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: They decided after the review was an invalid, invalid fair

1208
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: catch signal. And after that, like after that, Minnesota gets

1209
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: the job done, Minnesota gets to stop, and Iowa ends

1210
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: up losing twelve to ten. Another lost bet for me.

1211
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: I was very close in the punt bowl parlay Dan right,

1212
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: very close to the punt Bullpark.

1213
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 3: Sorry, so, look, this is.

1214
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: A really bad offensive game. We knew that going in

1215
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: the over under. The over under knew it, and they

1216
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: couldn't set that over under low enough. So you know,

1217
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: Iowa having what two yards in the second half, though

1218
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: every bit appalling, is not at all unexpected, and in

1219
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: a way it's sort of beautiful the way they play football, Like,

1220
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm so beyond, I'm so beyond Iowa's r football, post

1221
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: offense football. It's just they're they're playing on a different

1222
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: frequency altogether. You just got to embrace it and not

1223
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: think twice about it. But yeah, again, I just I

1224
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: circle back to what I said here at the start

1225
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: of this, like, you play that brand of football, it's fine,

1226
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: but you leave yourself almost no wiggle room and correct

1227
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: if whether again, whether or not that's a reviewable call,

1228
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you leave yourself susceptible to moments

1229
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: like that that can shift the balance of the game

1230
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: in the other team's direction.

1231
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 3: And yeah, there's no margin for air playing like this. Yeah,

1232
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 3: so right, It's it's not different than what USC does.

1233
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 3: It's just looks different, but thematically it's pretty similar. That

1234
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 3: if you are going to choose to do this, if

1235
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 3: you're going to form a team like this, if you're

1236
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 3: going to hire the coaches to do this, you are

1237
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 3: going to get this. And for me, I saw our

1238
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 3: friend Spencer Hall said something like I didn't think that

1239
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 3: that was the right way to end that game or

1240
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 3: something like that, but he gave the refs a reason

1241
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 3: to do something right that you can leave no doubt.

1242
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 3: And the movements and the pointing, and I know, you

1243
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 3: know players point at bouncing punts all the time that

1244
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 3: there's nothing unclear about that. But the waving thing as

1245
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 3: a punt is in the air, or even if it's

1246
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,439
Speaker 3: subtle waving, even if it's our motions, if it's any

1247
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 3: our motion short of of setting up to catch a punt,

1248
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 3: it's going to lead to ambiguity. And I think your

1249
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 3: broader point is the right one. If your win comes

1250
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 3: down to a single play in which a cornerback, a

1251
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 3: transcendent quarterback is returning a punt for a touchdown, and

1252
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 3: that is everything essentially you need to win a college

1253
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 3: football game, then the other team deserves that giant metallic pig.

1254
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: That's just how it works. We play football for the

1255
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: for the metallic pig. Yeah, and so that Floyd goes

1256
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: to Minnesota.

1257
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 3: That's how I means.

1258
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: It's just the the sequence of events is really a

1259
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: raw deal. I thought for Iowa and the man that

1260
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: went down, whether or not it was the right call,

1261
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, I should mention they went to the review

1262
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: to check for something else. They thought maybe step out

1263
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: of bounds and then while they were in review they

1264
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: saw this instead, and then they So somebody's gonna have

1265
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: to write the article as to whether or not it's

1266
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: even a reviewable circumstance. And if that's something that's a lot.

1267
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, but regardless, that's the way it went down.

1268
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: Those are my scary stories. You got anything to add here?

1269
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: Well?

1270
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 3: I mentioned Arkansas and Mississippi State. I mentioned Washington. I

1271
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 3: believe is still losing. I don't know if you have

1272
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 3: a scoreboard in front of you. Washington is still losing

1273
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 3: with two minutes left in the third quarter, seven to three. Seven,

1274
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 3: So that's an ongoing. They're losing to a quarterback who

1275
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 3: has thrown for three point three yards per attempt. Michael

1276
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 3: Pennix has two interceptions. I think one was off of

1277
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 3: a tipped ball that I saw right before we started recording.

1278
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 3: They have four total turnovers in this game, man as

1279
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 3: we speak. Seems pretty scary. A week after everybody is

1280
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 3: giving the heisman to Michael Pennix, they beat a rival

1281
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 3: in Oregon game days there and they have a letdown

1282
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 3: of letdowns against a team and I did not fully

1283
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 3: realize this, And I hope Washington represents the PAC twelve

1284
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 3: very well throughout the rest of the season. My preference

1285
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 3: would be for Oregon to win the conference, but they've

1286
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 3: lost to Arizona State thirteen of fifteen times.

1287
01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: It's amazing.

1288
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 3: I did not realize that kind of ownership happening from

1289
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 3: the Tempe and Seattle Mazo. That's that's I think my

1290
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 3: final scary story. It was a fun weekend, man, unless

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Speaker 3: you're a Fun State fan.

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Speaker 1: Unless you're a Penn State fan. Let's get to our roasts.

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Speaker 1: Where's the roast, stay off marshmallows by the fire campal condo,

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Speaker 1: and let's start with our reverbs. Dan, we told people

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Speaker 1: to give us a call it eight five to five

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Speaker 1: verbal three, gather around the campfire, one and all. Let's

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Speaker 1: play some cheesy acoustic guitar music as one does. And

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Speaker 1: we're gathered around for this sort of emotional experience. Let's

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Speaker 1: hear what the find people have to get off their chest.

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Speaker 1: Here your reverbs, all right.

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Speaker 7: I brought some food for us to roast at our

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Speaker 7: campfire tonight, guys. I got some buffalo burgers for the dukes,

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Speaker 7: some bear cat kebabs here for the bears and for

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Speaker 7: you Penn State twenty one point six slices of bacon by.

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Speaker 8: This is Brian, a depressed Penn State fan in Madison, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 8: and I we've got some emotion. I need to get

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Speaker 8: out around this campfire. Penn State is a block field

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Speaker 8: goal return away from having lost twelve in a row

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Speaker 8: against Ohio State, and it's it's hard to see how

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Speaker 8: you can believe anything except this is their ceiling. This

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Speaker 8: is as good as it gets.

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Speaker 9: The turning point in this Penn State Ohio State game

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Speaker 9: happened in twenty fourteen, with Penn State's coaching higher.

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Speaker 5: In my search for somebody to blame, I have decided

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01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,919
Speaker 5: the tie. This is all your fault. Knowing the full

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Speaker 5: power of your reverse jinks, you still picked Penn State

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Speaker 5: this week. I'm not mad.

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Speaker 2: I'm just disappointed of that game was ugly as sin.

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Speaker 2: But Ohio State as a championship level defense, and they're

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Speaker 2: ready for Michigan this year. We coming boys, we coming eighth.

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Speaker 10: Eller doesn't have the arm. See you're such a seating

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01:06:56,320 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 10: plays which doesn't really happen. See Eller has nobody for

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Speaker 10: it to d We don't remember, but you know, vibe turns.

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Speaker 6: Out it was e all of the above.

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Speaker 11: Danyos has taken the Arkansas offense from rushing for two

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Speaker 11: hundred yards a game to now maybe not even getting

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Speaker 11: two hundred.

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Speaker 4: Yards a game.

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Speaker 11: Fine to move one.

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Speaker 2: Three. Are you ready to talk to your kids about

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Speaker 2: a Bowl eligible Rutgers?

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Speaker 9: If you ever wondered what it was like to watch

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01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 9: a raccoon fight a possum at the bottom of a

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01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 9: trash can for a rotting doughnut during any Big ten

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Speaker 9: plast football game, TJ.

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Speaker 2: Fleck is going to ride a sinking mask Deans of

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01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 2: the Harbor like Jack Sparrow, because he's just like he's PJ.

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Speaker 2: FLACKI you should notice that reverse jinks must be intended.

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Speaker 1: You have to mean it.

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Speaker 2: The dead walk tonight rolled no surprise.

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Speaker 6: Tennessee made so many boneheaded calls in the second half

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01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 6: because zombie Alabama A your brave rothod baby, Your Bama.

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Speaker 4: Pick was as bad as a jink, but sweetest soda pop,

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Speaker 4: I still dream about that, Hilton Brandt. Your reverse jinks

1345
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 4: didn't work on me. Thank you, hillbrand Samma, Bye Tennessee.

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Speaker 6: And this is Michael.

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01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 4: After watching the worst loss in Carolina history as twenty

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Speaker 4: three and a half twenty favorites against.

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Speaker 6: Virginia surrounded by friends and family on my rit's say,

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Speaker 6: this is Andrew in Atlanta and come on down to

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01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 6: the price is right where Penn Sate is playing the

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01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 6: Bob Barker offense because it is both Spade and Newddle.

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Speaker 1: Andrew going out with a fantastic roast. Dan eight five

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01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: five level three great calls there. Thank you to Shae

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01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 1: for cutting those up as he does so skillfully every

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Speaker 1: Saturday throughout the course of the day for us, Dan,

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Speaker 1: what do you got for me this week?

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Speaker 3: My big roast tonight is I don't trust the SEC

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01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 3: at all. I have no trust in the SEC and

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Speaker 3: I love it. But between Georgia, Alabama, LSU, Tennessee, Florida,

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01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 3: Texas A and m Missoo, I have zero trust. I

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01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 3: think I love it, but I don't think anybody should

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01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 3: be confident in any team. Like if you talk to

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01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 3: Georgia fans tonight, they're still a little bit worried about Georgia.

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Speaker 3: I don't think any team in the SEC is worth

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Speaker 3: trusting at this point.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think Caleb Williams should fake a leg injury.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's okay. So this is just a take. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I like this.

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Speaker 1: I think you should fake a leg injury. He is,

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Speaker 1: I think a lock for the overall number one draft pick.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be I think so. I

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01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: think so absolutely. I think it's a frustrating gear ahead

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01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: as they get more into the teeth of this of

1375
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: this schedule. It will not hurt his draft stock one

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01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: iota if he doesn't play. I'm not usually that guy.

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01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to see opt outs. I think it

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01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: makes college football a watered down product. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know that was That was a look of a defeated

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01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: guy there on the sidelines after the game, just sort

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01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: of lounging on the bench, looking up into the sky,

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01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: head and hands like that. That is a frustrating way

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01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: to lose. And you know, despite the fact that the

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01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: last two weeks maybe he wasn't as flawless as he's

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01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: been otherwise this season. This is not a loss on

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01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. It's not on Caleb Williams. It is a

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01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: loss I think on coaching. It is lost on not

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01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: being able to develop some of the guys around him

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01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 1: that can help support him, it can help take USC

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Speaker 1: to the next level. So though he's got some responsibility

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01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: in it. Sure it is more other people's fault than his,

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01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: And I could just see if you're in a guy

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Speaker 1: his position, just decide, now, let's develop a limp. I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 3: I saw three different Caleb Williams commercials today. Yeah, during games, Wendy's,

1396
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 3: there's Nissan Is, the Heisman House Nissan, and I think

1397
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 3: he's doing Doctor Pepper One's as well. He's doing Fansville yep.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't know if he has

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Speaker 3: to play every game, but I don't hate that.

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Speaker 1: No, And I'm not an opt out guy, but I'm

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01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 1: telling you, I just think.

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01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:54,799
Speaker 3: He's still only lost one Pack twelve.

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01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: Game, lost only one PAC twelve game two overall, but

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01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: the riding is on the wall for more. You know it,

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01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: I know, of course, you know it. Thank you to

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Speaker 1: one and all for calling our reverbline at eight five five,

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Speaker 1: verbal three Dan one other point of note here, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I didn't really know where to put this. Did you mention?

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Speaker 1: UNLV six and one UNLV six and jaded Maava a

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Speaker 1: kick six field goals, Dan Bolble for the fifth time

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Speaker 1: in school history. So good on incredible close out on

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Speaker 1: a high sum first year, first year, good for the

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Speaker 1: running ReBs. Okay, so look, thank you to one and

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Speaker 1: all for joining us on this campfire episode. If you

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Speaker 1: want to throw dirt or something on the fire, I

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Speaker 1: guess we're not supposed to leave this thing burning smoldering

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Speaker 1: deep into the night.

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Speaker 1: A L L E R s dot com Dan good Week, Goode,

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Speaker 1: a week gain, incredible week. Can't wait for Week nine?

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Speaker 1: Can't wait for Week nine? It is going to be

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Speaker 1: a banger of I don't know final four or five

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Speaker 1: weeks of this. Agree for that guy over there, I'm

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Speaker 1: for supporting the sOliver ball. We'll talk to y'all soon.

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Speaker 1: Stay solid, Peace,