WEBVTT - LIVE IN LA: One True Champion

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<v Speaker 1>John one half of me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a man.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard so many players say what I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be happy? You want to be a happy for a

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<v Speaker 1>day at a stake?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that Wood and time? Welcome back to the song

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<v Speaker 2>herble boys, girls, that's what I like. That's what I like.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Ty.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll the brand, that fine gentleman over there, the one,

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<v Speaker 2>the only, always, the incomparable, the Native Sun. Yeah, women staying.

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<v Speaker 2>We were at the world famous Troubadour. They let us

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<v Speaker 2>in the door.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. We're actually a little bit farther apart than

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<v Speaker 1>we normally are because we're also going to bring other

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<v Speaker 1>couple of people up on stage at a certain we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing the Clint Eastwood. They were talking to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're talking to the chair. I gotta tell you

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<v Speaker 1>right off the bat and the listening audience won't realize this,

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<v Speaker 1>but the beautiful and attractive people and attendants will realize this.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't intentionally wear it too shirt to troll usc

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<v Speaker 1>people in LA I didn't, but then up there because

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<v Speaker 1>I have a different shirt up there, I saw I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Wenna two lane shirt. He's like, you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sticking with this. I'm gonna go with this. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>lean into it.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's incredible that we're here. I grew up point

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<v Speaker 1>to shows here. I was gonna say, you've been to

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<v Speaker 1>shows here. It's incredible to see. Are the name of

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<v Speaker 1>our show the soliverbel up on the Marquee. It's all gravy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited to do this and I'm ready with

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<v Speaker 1>my good friend, Fat Tire, Fat Tire.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a sponsor, could be, absolutely could be. So the

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<v Speaker 2>name of this show, the code name for this show

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<v Speaker 2>for people who listen, knows that we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 2>one true champion, Yes, for a couple of months now,

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<v Speaker 2>one true champ. What does that mean? Well, two things

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<v Speaker 2>happened about a month ago. The first is that the

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<v Speaker 2>College Football Playoff Selection Committee announced the top four, the

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<v Speaker 2>four teams that will be competing for the national championship.

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<v Speaker 2>We obviously know who the final two are. That's the first.

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<v Speaker 2>The second is that they finally came to a even

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<v Speaker 2>with a Rose Bowl on expanding things to twelve teams

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<v Speaker 2>starting in twenty twenty four. Yep, you and I decided, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>now we're gonna do it our own way. Correct, We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to expand the playoff in the way that we

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<v Speaker 2>see fit. We're also not going to just play it

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<v Speaker 2>off between those four teams. We're going to expand to twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to make our own.

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<v Speaker 1>We also don't have that capability to put on a

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<v Speaker 1>tournament of teams. The budget's not there yet. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that we do fantasy things before the season,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to find twelve things that we think

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<v Speaker 1>have best come to define the twenty twenty two season

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<v Speaker 1>and whittle it down to the one true champion things storyline, movement,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever is that accurate?

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<v Speaker 2>That is accurate? Okay, So we've got twelve college football narratives,

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<v Speaker 2>things that move the needle for us this past season.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to put them in brackets. We originally had slides,

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<v Speaker 2>but my dongle and you have the easy tie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>don't talk about your dongle in front of these at all.

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<v Speaker 2>That the dongle didn't work the way it was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be, Okay, and thank you. So, so we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do engage in a little theater of the mind here

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<v Speaker 2>talking through what that's cool, what all of these twelve

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<v Speaker 2>matchups are. But you can envision a twelve thing twelve

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<v Speaker 2>team bracket. Yeah, that will be popp You can hold

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<v Speaker 2>up your phone. I could show it now we're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do that, Okay, yes, continue. So it's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>twelve thing bracket of our own creation. And by the

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<v Speaker 2>end of this thing, maybe we can get some fan participation.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got some special guests who are gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Help us on the way.

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<v Speaker 2>We plan on naming the one true champion, Not Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>not TCU, no, one true Saliverbal champion of the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two season.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not do it in front of beautiful attractive people.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we have this sound too. You guys can tell

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<v Speaker 2>me which one you like better. I stole this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out CBS. They didn't license it to us.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sort of like a Jurassic Park version of CBA.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I have.

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<v Speaker 2>To all right, it's a little better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right? Shall we start with round one? I

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<v Speaker 1>would love your hands to get it for round one.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've seeded this right. It's organized in the way

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<v Speaker 1>any other twelve team bracket would be organized. So the

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<v Speaker 1>first four seeds have a bye, first four seeds have

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<v Speaker 1>a bye.

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<v Speaker 2>These this first round of games is being played at

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<v Speaker 2>they're home games. Okay, right, so I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>that means, right, but our first matchup is a five

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<v Speaker 2>to twelve, which, ohulie. For anybody who actually listens to

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<v Speaker 2>the actual tournam man, okay, brackets, you follow it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>a five to twelve can be very, very dangerous. It's

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<v Speaker 2>always danger five seed in this bracket is coach catastrophes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, we're gonna have to unpack.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the twelve seed is something that you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to call desperately, the Big ten West sad Mall. Yes, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll unpack that one as well. Everybody familiar with wherever

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<v Speaker 1>they're from, there's a good mall and a sad mall, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, that's right. The good ball might be outdoors,

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<v Speaker 1>there might be a couple department stores that are still

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<v Speaker 1>busy something like that. The sad mall is like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>people are still buying shoes there. Yeah, not that they're

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<v Speaker 1>bad shoes, but it's that the employees seem a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit sad and the ground hasn't been cleaned in a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what we are going to determine is essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>which one of these coaching catastrophes, which is a broad term,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can go through a number of examples. Or

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<v Speaker 1>was the sad mall that was the Big Ten West.

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<v Speaker 1>If you remember late in the season when Northwestern was terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>they were objectively terrible at football. There were tweets outlining

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<v Speaker 1>they still have a chance. That's the kind of division

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<v Speaker 1>it was. And so I don't know if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go through some coaches and look at where they

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<v Speaker 1>might be working in said mall, but I have PJ

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<v Speaker 1>Fleck at Lady Foot Locker. You didn't ask, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a natural fit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the coach catastrophes, I actually wanted to turn that

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<v Speaker 2>one over to you, Okay, you took a certain amount

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<v Speaker 2>of sadistic joy in the plight of one Mario crystal

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<v Speaker 2>Ball this past season.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just so familiar and what a catastrophe it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It really was a beautiful catastrophe.

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<v Speaker 1>It was because I'm not gonna say I knew it

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna happen. I figured he would have some success

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<v Speaker 1>at Miami, but the fact that something came out in

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of weeks that Manny Diaz and his

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<v Speaker 1>thirty whatever games allowed hit five games of forty points

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, and in Mario Crystaball's first year

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<v Speaker 1>was like nine of them allowing so look between Mario Cristobal,

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<v Speaker 1>between Brent Venables, between Kirk Farns. We'll get there. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get there. Around the sports, around the sport, there were

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty catastrophic coaching situations that Look, it started with

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<v Speaker 1>I think what was the to you the opening shot

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<v Speaker 1>of the coach? Was it South Dakota State, Iowa?

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<v Speaker 2>That was it? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the true apex moment? What was the climax settle?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the climax to you? Was it Tennessee Miami?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, middle Tennessee Miami. I believe was a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>later on in the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I understand this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the one for me that really was like

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<v Speaker 2>whoa was Oklahoma Texas?

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma Texas was top forty nine?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that the final?

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<v Speaker 1>It was forty nine nothing? And it was a situation

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't Oklahoma didn't have their starting quarterback. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat understandable.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to that one. The beauty of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Specific catastrophe was for four or five weeks you watched

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma and you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, all right, little scrappy, there's something there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the end of the TCU game, and then

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<v Speaker 1>when you get to the point where you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>a box score and there's a number like one point

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<v Speaker 1>eight or two point four next to QBR or yards

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<v Speaker 1>per attempt, that's going to be a long weekend on

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<v Speaker 1>the Oklahoma message boards.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, between Miami and Oklahoma, fourteen losses between those two

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<v Speaker 2>first year head coaches.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, could have been worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciative crowd here. I appreciate that. I'm sure I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if they do. No. And then you mentioned Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 2>and what their plight was, right, and if we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the Big ten West sad mall, there was this

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<v Speaker 2>thing that we joked about on our show called Nebraska.

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<v Speaker 1>Lightis Nebraska colitis? Like Nebraska colitis?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's it's a very mysterious thing. You could

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<v Speaker 2>argue that Northwestern was sort of patient zero. They caught

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<v Speaker 2>the European strain.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, they caught the the European variant of Nebraska litis.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there were seven is seven or eight games

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<v Speaker 2>that Nebraska played and then the week following or the

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<v Speaker 2>game following for those respective opponents, right, they lost, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got Northwestern Georgia, Southern Oklahoma, Indiana, Perdue, Illinois, and Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, Michigan almost lost. Correct, that was

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<v Speaker 2>that game against Illinois where they won nineteen seventeen. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, somebody else can do the math on what

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<v Speaker 2>percentage of the opponents that was. But playing Nebraska, just

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<v Speaker 2>having exposure to Nebraska was not a good thing either.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure you have a friend or you and

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<v Speaker 1>solid wife Kate have like a couple friend who are like,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just kind of downers and they bring everybody down

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<v Speaker 1>and you just feel kind of icky after you leave

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<v Speaker 1>their place, sort of like you know the Office episode

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<v Speaker 1>with with Michael and jan where everybody's like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>this really hurts to watch, and there is something about

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<v Speaker 1>like you go to Lincoln, Nebraska and you watch how

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<v Speaker 1>dysfunctional Nebraska got that it just stays with you. But

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you call the European variant for Northwest.

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<v Speaker 2>Or European stream, Yeah, So I mean by a show

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<v Speaker 2>of well applause, who would vote for coach catastrophees in

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<v Speaker 2>this matchup, it's coach Catastrophes against a big ten West

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<v Speaker 2>sad mall coach catastrophees.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they like the sad mall.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a sad mall crowd sad mall. Yeah. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I have let's see, I have Pat Fitzgerald at

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<v Speaker 1>a sad leather store. Does that make sense, like a

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson's Leather.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got Jeff Brahm. He's running like a massage kiosk. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't want to be there either. Care for Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Broum won the Big ten West and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is too sad.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Who else do we have in the Big ten West? Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Frost is in like a Hollister something. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the guy. He's got the sad pooka vibe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sad Pookah, Scott Frost. I don't know where this is

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<v Speaker 1>all coming from. Who else do we have in the

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<v Speaker 1>Big ten West? We'll get to Kirk Farens later. There

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<v Speaker 1>was something about Wisconsin and Graham Mertz where it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're sticking with him no matter what. We've invested so

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<v Speaker 1>much in this. I don't know what that is in

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<v Speaker 1>like the inventory at hot Dog on a Stick or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. Where's that food court that's always has

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<v Speaker 1>the samples like, please take some.

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<v Speaker 2>More grammar takes them.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't get He's probably a nice guy. That sounds

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<v Speaker 1>very mean, but like that was the vibe I got

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<v Speaker 1>from this year's Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've got our first upset. We're gonna put it

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<v Speaker 2>go through. We plan in putting the five through, but

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<v Speaker 2>twelve through.

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<v Speaker 1>There is I'm I can't wait to talk about Brett

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<v Speaker 1>Bielima's role in the sad.

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<v Speaker 2>That brings us to an eight to nine matchup, Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting some snaps. It's this literal, snappy little tip.

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<v Speaker 1>This is look at this, this is oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>this is great.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to be an earworm situation for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these folks. The eighth seed in this bracket

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<v Speaker 2>is something we called weirdly human Alabama. Yes, and the

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<v Speaker 2>nine this is my favorite one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The nine is Dabbo Sweeney slowly melting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because the visual immediately you can kind of visualize him.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you can see that. So why don't we start

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<v Speaker 2>with Alabama and then we can get to Dabble. It

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<v Speaker 2>says something about a team when it's a catastrophe to

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<v Speaker 2>go ten and two. When you go ten and two,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's an abject failure in some sense. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that says a pretty good deal about your program. So

0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.280
<v Speaker 2>they're in a good place. But there was this thing

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<v Speaker 2>and we struggled with it all season trying to pick

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<v Speaker 2>these Alabama games, especially after we saw the Texas one.

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<v Speaker 2>After that game in Week two, our our thought was that, well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Texas is really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure what an incredible loss?

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<v Speaker 2>May text is just really good, Like Texas is back

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<v Speaker 2>really yeah, text not so much spoiler earlier. Yeah, Alabama

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<v Speaker 2>was just weirdly human.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So are you familiar with I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's US Weekly or in Style, you know the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of magazine I'm talking about. They have this segment called

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<v Speaker 1>Stars Colin.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just like us, that's right. Are you familiar with that?

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<v Speaker 2>Or I am familiar with this.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll show Ben Affleck just tired and sad while smoking

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<v Speaker 1>a cigarette. It's like, well, or they'll show I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's the greatest paparazzi picture ever taken. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever seen Jonah Hill and the iced coffee? Has

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<v Speaker 1>anybody seen this? Do you know what I'm talking about?

0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's Jonah Hill holding an ice coffee but the

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<v Speaker 1>frame is exactly when he's holding from the lid. And

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't anticipate going here by the way where the

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<v Speaker 1>ice coffee is falling from the lid, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>Jonah Hill. And so you think to yourself, Yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been there, like I have bad pores when I go

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<v Speaker 1>to get a salad.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>There is something about this year's Alabama reminiscent of Sure,

0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:17.480
<v Speaker 1>my team has been torched by Tennessee. Sure, Brian Kelly

0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.680
<v Speaker 1>has somehow beaten my team late, Sure, Ole miss almost

0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:24.120
<v Speaker 1>beat my team with a sloppy performance. That was the

0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.360
<v Speaker 1>vibe of the like stars. They're just like us. Obviously,

0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Ben Affleck is excellent at what he does, but when

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<v Speaker 1>you show him a little bit paunchy, as we all

0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.800
<v Speaker 1>have been, Sure, Ben, I get you, I feel you.

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<v Speaker 1>The holidays are tough for all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>The interesting thing that I learned about Alabama, and specifically

0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Alabama fans this year. You could say anything you want

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<v Speaker 2>about Alabama. Yeah, it could be as mean as mean

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<v Speaker 2>spirited as you can possibly conjure up. No, Alabama fans

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<v Speaker 2>will sten to National Collegeotball podcast. No, they're so good.

0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.960
<v Speaker 2>They have constructed their own parallel universe. Yeah, with their

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<v Speaker 2>own podcasts and their own websites and their own appear makers.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't listen to us. So it was very freeing

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to talk about weirdly human Alabama once

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<v Speaker 2>we realized it was a thing. I don't even think

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<v Speaker 2>without any repercussions whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody had Alabama takes this year. They

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<v Speaker 1>were on Alabama Plus and the rest of us had

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<v Speaker 1>the standard package.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so on the Alabama front. Speaking of Alabama, and

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about this in the show time and time again,

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<v Speaker 2>but the fact that Alabama has been on this run

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<v Speaker 2>under Nick Saban has really poisoned the well for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of other schools. Yes, when it comes to coaches

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to build up any kind of national recognition

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<v Speaker 2>and program building and what have you. Clemson, Clemson thought

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people thought for a good long time

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<v Speaker 2>that if Nick Saban leaves, maybe Dabosweney would take that job.

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<v Speaker 2>Right then this year kind of happened and you start

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<v Speaker 2>to wonder, Okay, well, Clemson's had a lot of success,

0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.360
<v Speaker 2>but now they're starting to lose coaches and players maybe

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<v Speaker 2>are transferring out and suddenly people are putting microphones in

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<v Speaker 2>front of Dabo, ask him social questions, like social issues.

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<v Speaker 2>That always ends, well, yeah, and it's just like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying it's falling apart, but there is a sense

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe it is slowly melting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was. There was the issue of like, who

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<v Speaker 1>is your actual starting quarterback going to be? And then

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<v Speaker 1>he said, well, kay Klebnick's gonna play. That was the preseason,

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<v Speaker 1>and then throughout the season he said, dj use our guy.

0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:23.320
<v Speaker 1>And then they gave a bajillion yards up to wake

0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Forest and he always used to love using That was

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<v Speaker 1>the Roy Bust. The rest of y'all right, and that,

0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.040
<v Speaker 1>oh little old Clemson. There were moments we're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you are a little old Clemson and it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>super well. You could see the veins popping a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more for Davia's gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>There were more angry shots of Dabbo and the sidelines

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm accustomed to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh and it was. And the thing is, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna miss Dabbo when he's gone. He's not sick to

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<v Speaker 1>my knowledge, that was that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was worded in phrasing a weird way.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to my knowledge, I'm gonna miss Hi when he's gone,

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<v Speaker 1>because there are so many vanilla coaches out there that

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun to have him in my life because he's

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<v Speaker 1>so ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Dabo Sweeney versus weirdly here, really human Alabama? Are we

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<v Speaker 2>going for weirdly human Alabama? There's the one Alabama? Continue

0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Dabo Sweeney, Babbo see the sets. We have two upsets.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many little things or in the case of

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<v Speaker 1>his suit, like really big billowy things about Dabbo that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Try to We didn't even get to him running down

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<v Speaker 2>the hill.

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<v Speaker 1>No, oh my god, that's great.

0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Continual speaking of slowly melting are next first round matchup

0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.280
<v Speaker 2>is a battle of six versus eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>The sixth seed is what.

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<v Speaker 2>The fuck TCU? Yes, I repeat, what the fuck TCU?

0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:41.440
<v Speaker 1>And eleven the.

0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Eleven seed is comically terrible backups, Yes, specifically quarterbacks, specifically quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>This one's important and personal to you. It is, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I hear. Are we all know where this is going?

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<v Speaker 1>Folks?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma a problem with curious backups. Davis Bevel really against Tes,

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<v Speaker 2>they had that and Oklahoma State had as I like

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<v Speaker 2>to call something called Garrett.

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<v Speaker 1>Rangerett Wrangle and Gunner Gundy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Gundhy, but I'm sorry, this is a Drew Pine category.

0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.399
<v Speaker 1>Category says, this is the Drew Pine.

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<v Speaker 2>Entrant in our bracket. I was told by a friend,

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<v Speaker 2>and you remember this several weeks ago, that Drew Pine

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<v Speaker 2>is built like me, like Tie, I'm built like a podcaster. Yes,

0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:38.440
<v Speaker 2>it's different ish, Yeah, And what what I mean what

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<v Speaker 2>kind of amazed me about the whole Drew Pine experience

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<v Speaker 2>is that he was so bad. He was actually kind

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<v Speaker 2>of good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a twenty two to six touchdown interception ratio,

0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.879
<v Speaker 2>and they turned him from a really bad backup at

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<v Speaker 2>the start of the season into what I've come to

0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:55.840
<v Speaker 2>now say is a quarter bot. In that he handed

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<v Speaker 2>the ball off and he threw it to Michael Maher.

0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was programmed for a very speci responsibility.

0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.600
<v Speaker 2>He was like the terminator in a sense, right, and

0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.800
<v Speaker 2>so they found a way to win a games with that.

0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.400
<v Speaker 2>And not only that, but they gave him the confidence

0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:10.959
<v Speaker 2>to believe that he should be the starter next year,

0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:12.720
<v Speaker 2>which is why transferred us right.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck with that there is I had a hypothetical

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<v Speaker 1>a number of years ago that I was especially proud of,

0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and it was, would you rather wake up out of

0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.760
<v Speaker 1>a dead sleep and you have you're on stage at

0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:27.080
<v Speaker 1>the Oscars having to host and you have to put

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<v Speaker 1>out fifteen minutes of content or whatever it is, Or

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<v Speaker 1>would you rather wake up out of a dead sleep

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<v Speaker 1>and have to sing the national anthem at the Super Bowl?

0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:36.760
<v Speaker 1>And you have to sing it? You can't run off,

0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and it's difficult, right, I mean, the Super Bowl one's

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<v Speaker 1>over sooner, but you can be made fun of more

0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.800
<v Speaker 1>by singing terribly. There is something about this group of

0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.280
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks that like they woke up out of a dead

0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.159
<v Speaker 1>sleep and were asked to drive the ball in the

0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Cotton Bowl. Because that's what I relate to. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>number of the throws that these gentlemen, who I'm sure

0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.800
<v Speaker 1>are nice, capable, They're in better shape than I am,

0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:02.320
<v Speaker 1>They're a better football player. Grades Yeah, absolutely, But there

0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:05.760
<v Speaker 1>is something like you're awake now you have to read

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.240
<v Speaker 1>cover three and Drew Pine is like I'm throwing it

0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:12.119
<v Speaker 1>to the tall guy. And I appreciate that because it

0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:13.440
<v Speaker 1>makes them relatable. Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that when I heard built like me, I

0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:19.359
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh boy, TCU Like okay, let's talk to you.

0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I feel like we got to put TCU through. They're here,

0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.560
<v Speaker 2>they're in this game. Yes, And I remember we did

0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:26.520
<v Speaker 2>the preview. Guys who listened to the show, you know,

0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.479
<v Speaker 2>I've said it time time again, the preseason quote from

0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:31.639
<v Speaker 2>Sunny Dikes that I hung my hat on and I

0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:33.359
<v Speaker 2>believed in the Sunny Dykes higher. We all thought it

0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:36.399
<v Speaker 2>was a good higher. It's gonna take eighteen months. Eighteen

0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.200
<v Speaker 2>months is what it takes about. Eighteen months till we

0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.640
<v Speaker 2>get to the point where program stable. We can move

0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:42.920
<v Speaker 2>this thing forward, you know, we can start building for

0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.720
<v Speaker 2>the future. It took eighteen weeks. Yeah, it was nothing

0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:49.639
<v Speaker 2>eighteen weeks and suddenly now Woston the Big twelve championship.

0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:53.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they were Big twelve Championship adjacent's that's right.

0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But to do it as quickly as they did

0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:57.919
<v Speaker 2>to get here to this game. We will talk more

0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:00.280
<v Speaker 2>about TCU at some point here, but I feel like

0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:01.640
<v Speaker 2>we have to put TCU through. We can't.

0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to rely on the beautiful, attractive people

0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:07.080
<v Speaker 1>we're putting TCU through because I have said everything, all

0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the thoughts that I have about Davis Bevel at this point,

0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I am milked dry. That's so nope, I'm taking that back.

0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm bringing that back. I'm disgusted with myself for using

0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:19.760
<v Speaker 1>that phrase.

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<v Speaker 2>So we agree on the TCU for.

0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm pushing TCU through because it's I don't have anything

0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:26.639
<v Speaker 1>really that bad to say about TCU. They're in an

0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:30.640
<v Speaker 1>incredible story and we don't have we don't have anything

0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:34.119
<v Speaker 1>on this list that's incredible other than TCU.

0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Is anybody in the audience rooting for Georgia?

0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:41.719
<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, that's great, that's great. No, it's

0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:44.159
<v Speaker 1>it's TCU as a team that traditionally has not been

0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.520
<v Speaker 1>in this position. They've They've gotten to this point through

0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:50.840
<v Speaker 1>playing really, really good football. I have been there. They're okay.

0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I have a bit of baggage with guys like Max

0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.240
<v Speaker 1>dug and bow Nicks, where this has been the ultimate

0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.520
<v Speaker 1>redemption year. They don't care. They don't know my name,

0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:01.560
<v Speaker 1>they don't care about me. I was out on bone

0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Nicks from very early on. I was out on Max

0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Duggan from ver earlier on, early on, and for them

0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:08.560
<v Speaker 1>this year, and there's been a number of guys like this,

0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:13.720
<v Speaker 1>but for Max Duggan backup quarterback TCU, the Frogs first

0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.440
<v Speaker 1>year head coach, who like halfway through the season was like, well,

0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:19.679
<v Speaker 1>where's cool hoodies? And then now they're here. I mean

0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:26.720
<v Speaker 1>that's just incredible to me. Yeah, seventy ten.

0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, I like this. This is it's it's very

0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:33.119
<v Speaker 2>it's a vibe, it's very menacing. Yeah. Ohio State and

0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Michigan fan freak out love this versus Kansas has a

0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:38.880
<v Speaker 2>pulse now question mark.

0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So the problem with Kansas here is it was

0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:47.119
<v Speaker 1>like a mid October thing and then it went a

0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:50.959
<v Speaker 1>little bit sideways. Still a great story, unbelievable having two

0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:53.760
<v Speaker 1>good quarterbacks. It was a summer fling in a slide hold.

0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:56.359
<v Speaker 1>It was a summer fling. It was a half season story.

0:21:57.400 --> 0:21:59.800
<v Speaker 1>But it came to an end. I think they're in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a terrific story. I always like it when these

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<v Speaker 1>completely down and out programs make a move right that

0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that charge towards mediocrity. But we've got like a very

0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 1>quiet woo in the front row charge to mediocrity.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoo.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is something about the existential crises that Michigan

0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:22.760
<v Speaker 1>and Ohio State fans feel. Well, first of all, every week,

0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:25.919
<v Speaker 1>but at this point of the season. Ohio State's out

0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:27.560
<v Speaker 1>of it. They lost to Michigan. You got to fire

0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Day, you have to redo everything as a twelve

0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and one eleven in one program. Whatever. And then Michigan

0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:38.000
<v Speaker 1>getting to the point beating Ohio State again, and then well,

0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:42.400
<v Speaker 1>the NCAA has issues with free burgers and Jim Harbaugh

0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:44.359
<v Speaker 1>might go to the NFL. Do you know where those

0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:46.600
<v Speaker 1>rumors are coming from. I think they might be coming

0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:49.800
<v Speaker 1>from inside the house. That might be Jim Harbaugh saying

0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I've heard Jim harbough. They got to offer who like?

0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Do they like? Oh?

0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:54.920
<v Speaker 1>No, this is Steve Harrball.

0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:55.640
<v Speaker 2>That's what I heard.

0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:58.960
<v Speaker 1>That's where the call is coming from. So there is

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:02.040
<v Speaker 1>something that Michigan fans and Ohio State fans can't have

0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:03.400
<v Speaker 1>nice things for very.

0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Low No, the Kansas story was fun though. I mean, yes,

0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:08.560
<v Speaker 2>it was incredible. Maybe it was short lived, but they

0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:10.800
<v Speaker 2>did go five and oh to start the season. They

0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 2>weaseled their ways negative connotation, but they snaked their way.

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Let's okay, thank you up into the top twenty. Huh

0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:21.639
<v Speaker 2>almost beat TCU. He just talked about he's playing in

0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:25.200
<v Speaker 2>this game. Yeah, in forty eight hours. So the fact

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:28.000
<v Speaker 2>that they got to six wins at all this season

0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:31.680
<v Speaker 2>is a huge accomplishment given the fact that neither of

0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:34.920
<v Speaker 2>the two previous coaches got to six wins in their

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 2>entire arc.

0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:39.280
<v Speaker 1>At Kansas, it puts the thing is that it's unfortunate.

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:42.119
<v Speaker 1>It puts a lot of pressure on like Pat Fitzgerald, right, Like,

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.280
<v Speaker 1>if Kansas can do it, if Steve could lose one

0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:47.240
<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty five pounds and has a six pack,

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 1>now why can't you, Carl. I don't know where I'm

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:52.159
<v Speaker 1>going with this, but it does put a lot of

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:54.399
<v Speaker 1>pressure on other people. I think the Kansas thing is

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:55.040
<v Speaker 1>a great story.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:23:56.840 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm putting through Ohio State.

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Mission heat on that there's a little bit more meat

0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 2>on that bone. And plus, both Ohio State and Michigan

0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:08.240
<v Speaker 2>were just they had more of an impact on the

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 2>arc of college football this season. Both made the playoff.

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I agree.

0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:13.080
<v Speaker 2>So it's hard not that we put TCU through. It's

0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:15.160
<v Speaker 2>only fair that we would put Ohio State and Michigan through.

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:16.879
<v Speaker 2>It will get tougher in the next round though, just

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:20.479
<v Speaker 2>looking ahead at this bracket recognition, the folks out there

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 2>don't have the benefit of seeing the bracket we will

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:24.880
<v Speaker 2>get this. So we're going to go Ohio State.

0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:27.800
<v Speaker 1>We're going Ohio State in Michigan existential crises.

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Let's go to the quarterfinals, quarterfinals.

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 4>I like that.

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I played the other one that time. Did you guys

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 2>catch that?

0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:37.439
<v Speaker 1>No one?

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 2>No one heard boo, No one heard that.

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:42.399
<v Speaker 1>Should we bring a warm bottom to this seat? Is

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:43.879
<v Speaker 1>that what we should do? At this point?

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 2>We can if you want to.

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I would love to. We've got a couple of quarter

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:49.920
<v Speaker 1>final matchups here. So we've got a one in four

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 1>seed entering the fray, right.

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 2>It's correct. We've got taken time three and four to.

0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Take on what a twelve seed in the sad big

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 1>ten West Mall, that's right, and in the nine seed

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Dabo slow melting an overwhelming snap choice.

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Should we talk about tc Should we talk about TCU?

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Though?

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 2>Should want to talk about tc I just want to

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 2>we talk about TCU. Okay, well, it's fine, and we've

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 2>got a special guest to help us do that. All right,

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:18.879
<v Speaker 2>So a nine year, ten year yell it out eleven.

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:26.119
<v Speaker 1>Eleven year NFL veteran and former starting star tackle for

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the TCU horn Frog's Marshall Newhouse come to say.

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Again just a bunch of burly, big dudes on stage.

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of meat up here, a lot of meat. Okay,

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna present the matchup with my beer mustache.

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 1>We have a six seed in What the fuck? TCU?

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:03.919
<v Speaker 1>Where the hell did this come from? Against? Excuse me, sir?

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>We are at Christian University? Excuse me? Sorry? Sorry?

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Do you know that? I asked?

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know who this is going to offend,

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.359
<v Speaker 1>but I'm almost a half a beer ind I've said.

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I've said to multiple people, it's like, well, TCU, the

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 1>sea is Christian like, it's just a frat place. It's

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>just a frat place.

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:22.919
<v Speaker 4>It's loosely affiliated with the Christ Disciple or something like that, okay.

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Or something like that.

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 2>The proud tc alone.

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Just to show you the importance of the scene. If

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you want that, you to Baylor SMU. That was the

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of idea I got from. So, TCU, the frogs

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 1>are in this, but they are trying to prove themselves

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:42.160
<v Speaker 1>to be more important to the twenty twenty two arc. Then,

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you have a sound for this

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:49.919
<v Speaker 1>or anything. Tie that's fine, I don't know. You couldn't

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 1>have got round ball rock for me. No, that would

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:52.640
<v Speaker 1>have been nice.

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 2>I could work on it.

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>USC and UCLA getting the hell out of the Pac twelve.

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:06.120
<v Speaker 2>See that's tough. That's tough.

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:08.959
<v Speaker 1>So which has been So I just want to talk

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 1>about TCU. There's no way you expected this, No, not

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:12.399
<v Speaker 1>at all.

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 4>I mean people were still you know, processing having to

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.119
<v Speaker 4>let go of a guy who's statue is on the

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 4>way into the office for the coaching staff. Yeah, and

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 4>Gary Patterson. So yeah, there's no way you could have

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:28.159
<v Speaker 4>predicted this. And then subsequently the the pundits put us

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 4>at seventh in the Big twelve. I appreciate it, which

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 4>at different times, right, yeah, at different times this year,

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 4>people you know, have lauded its depth or its lack

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 4>of whatever.

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, there's no way you could have known. Did

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>when did you know? Like, I think they're actually something?

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 4>It was Oklahoma. I mean just I was at the game.

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 4>I did a pregame show this year, and you know,

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 4>you're kind of highlighting the players. I met a few

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:53.360
<v Speaker 4>of the newer guys and we're like, oh, there's gonna

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 4>be a tough game, Oklahoma. You know, we've given them,

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, challenges for three quarters most of the years

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:02.119
<v Speaker 4>in the last five or so. Ye, and then in

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:06.160
<v Speaker 4>the first quarter we break like two or three long

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 4>plays and Oklahoma looks like disheveled on the sideline. I'm like,

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 4>that's something I've never seen before. Yeah, I mean not

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 4>since two thousand and five. And then by that game,

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, we just stomped a hole in their forehead.

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 4>This might be for real. So yeah, and then they're

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 4>run after that. But yeah, it was Oklahoma again.

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>And Monday night. If we were to give you it

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 1>looks like you have your honesty j just right in

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:32.239
<v Speaker 1>front of you. Could you The ongoing question is like, well,

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:34.119
<v Speaker 1>what would it take for TCU? Like, first of all,

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 1>they're a really good team and they've beaten good teams.

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Are you going into this in the way that I

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 1>think TCU is, which is like, it's free money, nobody

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>expected us to be here. Let's just play loose and

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>see what happens. Or are you of the mind if

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 1>ABC goes in a specific way, this is a real thing.

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 1>It's very real. I think you know.

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 4>TCU fans are pretty realistic fans. We've been kind of

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 4>the doormat for a long time. We're a small school.

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 4>There's just there weren't a lot of expectations are there now.

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 4>But we were realistic before Michigan. I said before the game,

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 4>we need a couple of things to go our way. Turnovers,

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 4>big plays. Who knew that they'll mean two pick sixes

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 4>and you know, a seventy five yard touchdown. But yeah,

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 4>I was very honest about Michigan, and I believe it's

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 4>similar to this. We gotta win the term about there's

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 4>just no way a Georgia program that's accumulated five star

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 4>athletes for six seven years. There's just no way to

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 4>beat them at their own game. So there has things

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 4>have to go our way a little bit. But walking

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 4>if we do the off the bus off the bus test,

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 4>there's a tight end at TC who barely just used

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 4>who six seven forty that's during my time there.

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>That just wasn't real. There's two tackles who were seeing

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>you're a Mountain West athlete. To be clear, Yeah, I

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 1>am honest now that if I were to try to

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>get rided t taking that, I'm like, I'm insulting him. No, No,

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, no, But it's just it's not

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>that long about it.

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna kick dan'a ask later it's okay, yeah, registered,

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 4>I haven't coming backhanded com registered registered, No, like I

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 4>probably wouldn't get recruited there. Now I'm a shorter tackle,

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 4>but the athletes they have now, they're big. And I talked,

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 4>I spoke to this about this antiquated notion that TCU's

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 4>too small. Fifteen years ago we were too small. That's

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 4>just not the case anymore. So that was part of

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 4>the Michigan lead up. And so yeah, we stole couple

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 4>possessions and Max played okay. He had two picks that

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 4>bounced off receiver's hand yep, and then he threw for

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 4>a little under fifty percent.

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 1>He can't do that. Those receivers can drop those balls.

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 1>And so it's there.

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 4>I believe it's there, and I also believe George is

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 4>not going to underestimate us and it's going to be

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 4>a dogfight. So I don't the house money thing. You know,

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 4>it's I know how hard it is to win anything,

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 4>any championship. So acting like we're just gonna go on

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 4>this run and maybe get back here, there's too much luck,

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 4>there's too much craziness that could happen to assume that

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 4>that no matter how good you recruit, that this could

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 4>happen again, So why not, you know, shoot your shot now.

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 2>It does feel like they're on a hell of a

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 2>run at the craps table, though, and that makes them

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 2>tricky to bet against. Yeah, you could bet Georgia, and

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 2>both Dan and I picked Georgia.

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>You speak for yourself, Tied Marshall and Irene Marshall, and

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>I believe time you're.

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 4>Saying we're the degenerat in the corner with a cigarette

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 4>and yeah, yeah empty vodka SODA's just on a heater

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 4>right now.

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I don't like I could pick Georgia, and

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 2>I understand all the reasons why it makes sense. I

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 2>don't feel good about it. Yeah, I don't feel good

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 2>about it. I don't want them. I want to see

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 2>you to win, but I don't feel good about it

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 2>because of the run that TCU has been on. And

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 2>you know that feeling of not having anything to lose

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 2>can be really dangerous.

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 4>And I'm I'm like, I couldn't gamble, so I'm new

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 4>to it. But just the idea and that the machinations

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 4>thirteen points is a lot lot, It's a big number.

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>It's a big number.

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Of a quick strike offense that you know, it's being

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 2>in weird situations all year.

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>It's twelve now. By the way, has there ever been

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 1>in a hypothetical world in which Georgia wins the National Championship?

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.959
<v Speaker 1>Will there ever be a happier group of fans to lose?

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Was in the National Championship? Not that tc was happy

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>just to be here, but just like whatever, who we're running,

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>we're shriaking down the street and our pants are on

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>exact continue.

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 2>So here here is the matchup that we brought you

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 2>up here, beyond of course the game preview when you're

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 2>insight into TCU, But the matchup we've got here is

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 2>between TCU and this incredible run and what otherwise would

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 2>be the biggest story in college football, the notion that

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 2>both USC and UCLA and LA as a whole is

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 2>now a big ten town. Dan, I kind of feel

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 2>like that's the bigger thing that we should I mean.

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 1>It's disrespect towards Santa Monica City College, but continue, I just.

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Kind of feel like that's a bigger, more important thing. Sure,

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>we talked more about and that everybody got a little

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 2>bit more into the.

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<v Speaker 1>Well and the idea of realignment also affects TCU with

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Texas and Oklahoma leaving, because TCU again Big twelve Championship adjacent.

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>TCU is in a position to go to the playoff

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<v Speaker 1>probably more often if Oklahoma is fully weaponized, that's certainly

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>a roadblock. And with you know, all due respect to Cincinnati, UCF,

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 1>BYU and Houston, like, the road is a lot better

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>for TCU right now with Oklahoma leaving, should they get

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>back to where they've been? So I think it's USC

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 1>and UCLA just because it sort of changes the trajectory

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>of how we look at the sport that it's become

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>like a big ten sec thing at this point. But man,

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you USC fans and UCLA fans going to State College,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to like speak specifically about how hard

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>it is not just to get there, but to exist there.

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 2>There is not NonStop service from lax No to State College.

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 1>No, there is tricky. Is there a slider word than remote?

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 2>It's a long van ride from Pittsburgh or Philly for

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 2>most fans. Right you fly into University Park, but most

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:53.719
<v Speaker 2>of the land can't. It's a tough place to get

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 2>to you Otherwise.

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, USC and UCLA firebombing a conference to chase money.

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>All due respect, I have a lot of USC friends

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 1>UCLA fan friend one. I think there's not that many

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 1>of them. If you've ever seen there, there is, and

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there are a couple of examples of stadiums

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>that really pop in empty ways. The Rose Bowl is

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>special because we all love the Rose Bowl, right, we

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 1>love the game itself. But there's something about, like, I'm

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure two thirds of the stadium are empty, two

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 1>thirds of the seats are empty for a UCLA game,

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and the big twelve is we want you. And so

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 1>that's funny to me that there is you know, maybe

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Iowa fans will travel, maybe Minnesota fans will travel, but

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 1>it's still gonna be tricky. There's there's something about an

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 1>empty Rose Bowl that I don't know. It just feels

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 1>like home being from here.

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:47.439
<v Speaker 2>Does anybody object to us putting USC and UCLA through Yes, yeah,

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 2>other than you Marshall of course.

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.320
<v Speaker 1>By the way, there was something I don't know a

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>few days ago after TCU beat Michigan, somebody from the

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>TCU Athletic department or something like radios they said something like,

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, all these people are acting surprised about TCU,

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:05.360
<v Speaker 1>But we knew the whole time. Bullshit, you guys needed.

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 1>You guys needed to sprint out in Unison to kick

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a field goal against Baylor to get here.

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 2>We knew the whole time.

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm positive that that's called a bazooka kick, and

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 4>we practiced every Thursday.

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm positive you watch the end of that game with

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>your arms crossed like, nope, nope, nope, not even close.

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I was too busy. I was down the sideline trolling

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the Baylor student section. Well that's fun, that's fun. That's

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>what you're legally supposed to be doing as a TCU person.

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, before we let you go, do you have a

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:41.359
<v Speaker 2>prediction while you're up here?

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 4>Uh? Yeah, I mean I've been doing the show and

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:47.359
<v Speaker 4>so I'm like, I've got my Homer shirt on all

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.359
<v Speaker 4>the time, but I truly believe it. With a couple

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:52.879
<v Speaker 4>you know, bounces our way like we're in the game,

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:56.359
<v Speaker 4>but it feels like like a one score Georgia win.

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 4>But I think there's a chance, like late in the

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 4>fourth quarter, there's a game turning drive for TACU or

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 4>Georgia that will either have to teach you there to

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 4>win or will kind of they'll pull away, but I

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 4>mean it's gonna be a closer game. It'll be very

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:11.320
<v Speaker 4>well contested.

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Georgia could cover and it could still be hell of

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 2>a game.

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Yeah. So any given Monday nights specifically built for

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:19.879
<v Speaker 1>TV audiences, anything could happen.

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, put your hands together for Marshall.

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you. Am I free? You're free?

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, go be our biggest fan. Thank you.

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to keep it going with large humans

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>in this chair? We can. That's not confidence.

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:49.439
<v Speaker 2>Let's do it all right? Another guest.

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>We have another guest, another large human. Ladies and gentlemen

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 1>from the Gojo Show. You've seen him on ESPN, You've

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:58.719
<v Speaker 1>seen him on he might be on Twitter twenty four

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>hours a day, seven days of Mike Gullig Junior.

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I just want to say thank you for not reading

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 2>my football resume after Marshalls there is.

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>You have a hell of a Wikipedia page. By the way,

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 1>he is the only professional, semi professional football player. You

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 1>played in Brooklyn, New York professionally.

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, the I played in the Brooklyn Cyclones Minor League

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 3>baseball park on Cony Island. Huh, I rode a legit

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 3>yellow school bus to professional football practice. But I did

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.319
<v Speaker 3>make the All Star team in the FXFL and didn't

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:47.720
<v Speaker 3>get paid for the last three weeks.

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Is that true? Yes, that.

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 3>At some point it's not thirty for thirty worthy at all.

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 3>But someone will do like a small YouTube short on

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 3>what happened to that fall? Uh huh, where I ate

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:01.879
<v Speaker 3>at the same Spanish restaurant, worked out at the same

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 3>La Fitness and went bowling three nights a week, living

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 3>in a holiday and Express on Staten Island for three months.

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 3>He just brought the room down. Yeah, no, it was

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 3>dark times, man, it was dark times anyway. Happy to

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 3>be here.

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 2>On the Brass tax Mic. We've got a compelling matchup

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 2>here between a number nine seed otherwise known as Dabosweeney

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 2>slowly melting and the number one overall seed, which we're

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:33.359
<v Speaker 2>referring to as transfer portal fucking chaos, well language, well

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 2>chaos chaos. We're actually a Catholic institute, yea.

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>We care about the God stuff, so.

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Everybody knows about the dabble thing. We just talked about that,

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 2>the God the nil thing. We could talk about that quote, yeah,

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 2>in due time, but I'm curious from your perspective as

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 2>a former college athlete, how you feel about the transfer

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 2>portal chaos, because I'm sure you've seen the numbers. Over

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.879
<v Speaker 2>a thousand people entered their name into the transfer portal.

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Some have pulled their names out, some have pulled their

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 2>names out and then put them back in it at

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 2>all careful. We just got done with the milk and stuff.

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I keep thinking of the old ESPN Y two K

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:17.239
<v Speaker 2>commercial where they countdown three two to one, you hear

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:21.279
<v Speaker 2>the alarms call freedom. Charlie Steiner's doing braveheart. Yes he's

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 2>playing for Tulsa now, Charlie Steiner. Congratulations. Yeah, So where

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 2>are you at with the transfer portal and all this

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 2>chaos we've seen well, and especially what.

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 3>You guys brought up is its outsize impact on the

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 3>world of college football.

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 2>We just got through, I believe the last of the.

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 3>Major transfer portal quarterback Dominos to follow with Brendan Armstrong

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 3>following his former offensive coordinator Brandon and I two NC State.

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 3>But we saw the impact it had on USC this year.

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 3>We saw the impact that it's had on Old miss

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 3>and Slane Kiffin got there. It's got tangible impact that

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 3>we've seen almost immediately on the field for some big programs,

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 3>and it's the easiest sports tall gas back subject on earth.

0:39:57.840 --> 0:39:59.839
<v Speaker 2>You can get Stephen A. Smith talking about that. Yeah,

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 2>if Steven A. Smith is talking about college football, that

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 2>tends to mean whatever.

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 1>The subject is a.

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Pretty big deal. Yeah, I mean this. The other interesting

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.719
<v Speaker 2>thing about this matchup is that Dabos Sweeney versus the

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 2>transfer portal is also a real life gage. It's ongoing,

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:16.399
<v Speaker 2>right Simpson, fans all just slowly dying, as you said, Yeah, yeah,

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 2>it's true.

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:19.879
<v Speaker 1>Continue to say.

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 2>It just doesn't seem like Dabo's got a handle on

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 2>that situation.

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:25.759
<v Speaker 1>No, not at all. Here here's my question for Mike though,

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>with the transfer portal stuff, you were you were pretty

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 1>locked in on Notre Dame obviously a legacy and you

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.440
<v Speaker 1>love Look you're wearing a Notre Dame little Is that

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 1>a jacket or is that it's a patch? No, it's

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:35.720
<v Speaker 1>just a jacket.

0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:36.320
<v Speaker 2>It's a jacket.

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:38.279
<v Speaker 1>It's just a jacket. Yeah, I'm learning things as we go.

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 1>This would not you would have not entertained the idea

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I presume of leaving Notre Dame.

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 3>I thought briefly about it. Okay, to my last year

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:50.800
<v Speaker 3>just because I hadn't played a bunch. But it was

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 3>a lot harder decision. I was, obviously, you know, a

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 3>legacy player there all that good stuff, so would have

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 3>been a lot harder than it seems to be now,

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:00.359
<v Speaker 3>which that part is wild to me, and I'm sure

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 3>Marshall can speak to this too. The thought of uprooting

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 3>everything that you've done as frequently as some players have

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:09.759
<v Speaker 3>seems incredibly off putting, Like they do have to think

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 3>about it a lot more like a business that we

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 3>ever did.

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Okay, so when you look at this, does it

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.759
<v Speaker 1>like Tie is all in on the transfer portal? Tie

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 1>loves I mean, look, Tie is a professional talker now,

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 1>so it gives us fodder all year long, like okay,

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 1>this quarterback's going here, or this new coach just brought

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 1>in forty new players or whatever from the portal lane.

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Kiffin's the portal king. Do you enjoy it in that

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:33.919
<v Speaker 1>way or you're like that's kind of a bummer, because

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 1>there is something nice about like you going somewhere with

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>four years and you're making all these like lifelong friends.

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 1>What are you? Are you mixed on it? Do you

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:42.440
<v Speaker 1>understand it? But does it you wear you with it,

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>so I.

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Don't get as inundated with it overall, necessarily because trying

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 3>to keep tack of each and everyone that jumps into

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 3>the portal is an impossible task. I'm like, skipped a labor,

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 3>Show me the baby, tell me where the good guy's

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:56.919
<v Speaker 3>end up, and we'll be good with all that. I'm

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 3>a fan of it because it allows more teams to

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:01.760
<v Speaker 3>get better quick yeah, which I think as a college

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 3>football fan helps in an era we're about to expand

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 3>the playoff. And I think it also gives players recourse

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 3>against the system that's traditionally landlocked them. Where now you've

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 3>got guys that, if their coach decides to up and

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 3>leave after the first signing day, have the ability to

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 3>get out if the bill of goods they were sold

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 3>isn't the one that they get when they get on campus. Like,

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 3>coaches have to tell you the truth now, they didn't

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 3>always have to tell you the truth before in those

0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 3>recruiting meetings because you were, you know whatever, a star prospect.

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 3>They could make you feel all the things you wanted

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 3>to feel, and then you got on campus and you

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:34.719
<v Speaker 3>were theirs, and it was really hard to get out

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:36.799
<v Speaker 3>of that and so I like, in a sport where

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 3>the players do not yet have a union, that they've

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.279
<v Speaker 3>got some way to impact their future in a four

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 3>or five year window.

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:45.800
<v Speaker 1>There's also the interesting dynamic of recruiting your current players

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.879
<v Speaker 1>like you probably wouldn't have hated for your offensive line

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:50.880
<v Speaker 1>coach in meetings like hey, by the way, Mike, you

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:54.720
<v Speaker 1>mean a ton to us and we love having You're like, hey, thanks.

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 3>It's it's created such an interesting dynamic where, yes, it

0:42:58.040 --> 0:42:59.759
<v Speaker 3>feels like now they've still got to be nice to you.

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 3>You get on this, so maybe it eliminates you getting

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 3>five am punishment workouts for two weeks straights after a

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:07.839
<v Speaker 3>very lame, minor intoxication.

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>That is off my record now.

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:14.799
<v Speaker 5>Hypothetically he could be talking about anybody not gonna point

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:18.759
<v Speaker 5>any old last year, but no, I think I had

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 5>an interesting conversation last year doing a North Carolina game

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 5>with Mac Brown, And obviously anyone who's ever lost a

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:25.760
<v Speaker 5>game in North.

0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 3>Carolina is in a very long conversation with Mac Brown

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 3>and midfield, way longer than I want to. But it

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 3>was interesting hearing him talk about that, because I think

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 3>it changes the way some of these coaches have to

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 3>operate if they're smart, which is word of mouth has

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:43.839
<v Speaker 3>always been the best recruiting device. Players talk now more

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 3>than ever. And he said, if a guy doesn't think

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 3>the best opportunity for him is here, we want to

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 3>help get him to where he thinks that that was

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:53.399
<v Speaker 3>the promise we made him recruiting. And listen, he's talking

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 3>to the media. He's selling us the right stuff. But

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 3>that's the point is if that's the the let's say,

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 3>perception of you that's out there, and then that impacts players,

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 3>and you show that on a day to day basis,

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 3>players are gonna buy what you're selling. And that, to

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:08.440
<v Speaker 3>me is the biggest thing. If you're truthful in the

0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 3>way you build your program, you're not gonna have to

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:11.280
<v Speaker 3>do as much recruiting.

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Right by the way, just as an aside, Mac Brown,

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:16.280
<v Speaker 1>an all time elite first name.

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.319
<v Speaker 2>Remember, remembers everybody's name, so you.

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Got like the doc Rivers in the NBA. But he

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 1>does do something where like a media member will ask

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 1>him a question, He'll say like, great question, Derek, and

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Derek will say that was a great questions Mac.

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:31.480
<v Speaker 2>It's why if these coaches ever have a chance go

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 2>do the media thing. For a year. Yeah, because you'll

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 2>learn how easy it is to get us.

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Such marks. Yeah, it's unbelievable. We don't take much.

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Just the Cross has done at Hollister. He can head

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 2>right for the boost somewhere. So I think we got

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 2>to put the portal through. I think portal through. I

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:53.839
<v Speaker 2>love the Dabbos, slowly melting love it one the name,

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 2>image and likeness of God. That's right.

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna miss that.

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I have quote. We built this program on nil. We

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 2>really did. Sweeney said, it's probably different than what you're thinking. Though.

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:05.880
<v Speaker 2>We built this programm in God's name, image and likeness.

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:09.920
<v Speaker 1>It's perfect. It's perfect. Here's what.

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Trevor Lawrence does. Look like the white God they put

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 2>up in my cap at high school.

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:21.120
<v Speaker 1>So let that sink in. Okay, there's something about Dabbo

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 1>where he's it seems like he's gonna coach Clemson forever, right,

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 1>that's his thing. He's gonna be the the Clemson whatever.

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:31.239
<v Speaker 1>But at some point he's going to retire and I

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know, like he'll have speaking circuit. The only other

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 1>thing that I could think about for Dabbo after he

0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:39.880
<v Speaker 1>leaves is because of the way he speaks the name,

0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 1>image and likeness of God. That's how we There is

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 1>going to be something like I'm Dabo Sweeney and I

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:46.919
<v Speaker 1>know a little bit about gold, which is why I'm

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 1>here to tell you a little bit about Gold.

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:54.360
<v Speaker 1>There is gonna be like you'll be watching something with

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:57.800
<v Speaker 1>an elder relative and Dabbo will appear on your screen

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 1>like as the next like I don't know who's doing now,

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Tom Selleck, Like Dabo is going to fit in so

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:05.400
<v Speaker 1>smoothly in that world.

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm so excited for. And I guess it's not gonna

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 3>be my grandparents anymore. This will be like my dad

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:15.320
<v Speaker 3>or I guess not my dad maybe specifically because he

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:17.880
<v Speaker 3>would know this, but somebody's dad who becomes a grandpa

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:20.239
<v Speaker 3>gonna be like, did you know this nice gold Man.

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Used to coach that football team? Who knew Carolinas. It's

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna be such an easy transition and we are all

0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 1>going to see it coming now.

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, put your hands together. From Mike Gouling Junior, thank you, sir.

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Wait before you go, Before you go, do you want

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 1>to place any of the Big ten West coaches in

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>a sad mall store? Okay, so I guess Luke Fickle

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't count. We're gonna have to go Paul Christ because

0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:47.360
<v Speaker 1>he was the one who was the head coach for

0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 1>a time this year. You've got Brett Bielima, You've got

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Kirk Farens. Who am I missing? From the Big ten West.

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 1>You've got Pat Fitzgerald, Oh and PJ Flack. Yeah.

0:46:57.680 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 3>Brett Bielima was recently fire from the Cinnabon as the

0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 3>night manager because he was stealing them.

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Low hanging but accurate. Yeah, I am what I am? Yep,

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 1>thank you very much, My.

0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Dog dinner, our Cinderella from round one the Big ten

0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 2>West sad Mall against a very strong number four seed.

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:33.799
<v Speaker 2>Jimbo Fisher's buyout, Yes, can afford the whole damn mall.

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Eighty five million is the buyout.

0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:41.600
<v Speaker 2>For those playing along at home, this is the kind

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:44.839
<v Speaker 2>of topic that you draft for a dynasty fantasy league. Yes,

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 2>of course, because he signed the contract five years ago.

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 2>He re upped the contract two years ago now twenty

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty one, and we're still talking about it. It was

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:57.759
<v Speaker 2>the contract that changed college football coaching forever. Yeah, because

0:47:57.800 --> 0:47:59.879
<v Speaker 2>I remember it was ten year, seventy five million dollars

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:03.400
<v Speaker 2>ten years what it was a big talking point for us.

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:05.759
<v Speaker 2>Now it's more of a talking point now, but not

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:08.719
<v Speaker 2>for the reasons we thought when you signed the contract.

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 2>It could be because A M did not score thirty

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:13.880
<v Speaker 2>points against Power five opponent until the last week of

0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:14.280
<v Speaker 2>the season.

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:18.279
<v Speaker 1>That'll happen. That'll happen, Yeah, last week of the season. Dan, Yes,

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 1>so eighty five million dollars is a lot of money.

0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 1>But also shout out to the guy for discovering the

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:27.200
<v Speaker 1>greatest retirement plan in the sports Texas A and M's

0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:30.960
<v Speaker 1>coaching job. There's nothing better. There's nothing like. Can you

0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:33.920
<v Speaker 1>imagine the coaches that have been on the line with

0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:36.719
<v Speaker 1>their agents to say, look at some points, just get

0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>me in there right like, you know, when this is

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:40.960
<v Speaker 1>all said and done, Lincoln Riley is gonna be the

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 1>head coach in Texas A and M. I'm gonna walk you.

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna walk you through the process. Lincoln Riley's gonna

0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:53.120
<v Speaker 1>take an NFL job in twenty twenty four. It's gonna

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:55.919
<v Speaker 1>go pretty well and then poorly, and then he's gonna

0:48:55.960 --> 0:49:02.239
<v Speaker 1>end up in College Station Texas. It's just a quick

0:49:02.280 --> 0:49:06.960
<v Speaker 1>little spoiler alert for the Lincoln Riley trajectory here with

0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:08.360
<v Speaker 1>me a very wealthy man.

0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:11.239
<v Speaker 2>The Jimbo buy out. I think I'm just sort of

0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 2>transfixed at how much we talked about it this year.

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 2>We expect to, I think is what made it so

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:18.720
<v Speaker 2>notable in our world. The big ten West Sad Maldough

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 2>is it's teaming with coaches with bad programs. I mean,

0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 2>we didn't even talk about Kirk ference. No, let's take

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 2>a secon. Let's take a knee to talk about Kirk Ferencene,

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 2>late stage, Kirk Farnce at this point, so we talk

0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 2>about half teams on the show all the time. By

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:37.400
<v Speaker 2>the numbers that we look at, one hundred and twentieth

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:42.160
<v Speaker 2>an offense, Well yeah, first, first, in defense, I cannot

0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 2>remember a disparity that large since we've been doing the show.

0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe somebody else can. But one twenty to one is

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 2>a pretty big deal in a vacuum, that's not that

0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:54.880
<v Speaker 2>big of a story. But the fact that i was

0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 2>been there before, and the fact that Iowa was sought

0:49:57.239 --> 0:49:59.840
<v Speaker 2>to try and solve the problem by saying, hey, Brian,

0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:02.759
<v Speaker 2>you know something about electrical work, don't you, right, can

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:04.920
<v Speaker 2>you give us a shot? Like it costs money to

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 2>do a fixer upper of this magnitude.

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:10.799
<v Speaker 1>It's it's unimaginable how bad Iowa's offense got. They were

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:15.799
<v Speaker 1>never great on offense. The thing that I specifically love

0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:18.640
<v Speaker 1>is that there is an obvious conflict of interest to

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>the point where Brian Ferrence doesn't report to his father,

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 1>the head coach, and that it's other people deciding his

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:29.880
<v Speaker 1>job performance. It was so so bad to watch Iowa.

0:50:29.960 --> 0:50:32.879
<v Speaker 1>But again, I treasure it. I treasure the Big Ten West.

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:35.359
<v Speaker 1>I treasure how bad it got. I treasure the fact

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 1>that their best offensive coordinator was their defensive coordinator and

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Phil Parker, that's pretty great. This was Iowa. Iowa's incompetence

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:48.239
<v Speaker 1>was so creative and novel. I celebrate it. It was

0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:50.520
<v Speaker 1>so incompetent that it was the best and they made

0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:54.719
<v Speaker 1>it work. They well to an extent. Sure, they made

0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:56.800
<v Speaker 1>it too and won a bowl game. That's true. They

0:50:56.880 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 1>shut out a very said Kentucky team.

0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of malls. Right, so I still feel like, you know,

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:06.719
<v Speaker 2>despite the fact that the Big Ten West sad mall

0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:08.240
<v Speaker 2>is a fun thing to say.

0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, do you think here's the question, do you think

0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:13.880
<v Speaker 1>it's more difficult to be truly terrible at Iowa on

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 1>offense given that defense, or is it more difficult to

0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:21.120
<v Speaker 1>screw up on the level of Texas A and M

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 1>with the talent of the Aggies with I mean, the

0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:25.879
<v Speaker 1>sec Wes wasn't incredible this year.

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 2>What do you think Kirk Farrens would do with the

0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:30.600
<v Speaker 2>roster in college station? Oh my god, they would all

0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:34.919
<v Speaker 2>be transferring. Just if they switch spots, right, what would happen?

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Punts be a lot of punting. No, nothing terribly different. No,

0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:44.000
<v Speaker 2>it's it's just he's much more expensive Jimbo. He's much

0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:46.520
<v Speaker 2>more expensive Jimbo. Fisher's buiout goes through I think, and

0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:48.319
<v Speaker 2>so this is where the twelve seeds run.

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I also like that you have to pay attention to

0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 1>oil futures to gauge whether or not it's realistic to

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:55.640
<v Speaker 1>get rid like, there are move there are things afoot

0:51:56.440 --> 0:52:02.120
<v Speaker 1>that have to happen. Okay, we're gonna have to explain

0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the snaps to the at home audio audience.

0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I currently fakes up a little bit so that we

0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:09.800
<v Speaker 2>can pick it up our two versus seven matchup. We

0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:13.560
<v Speaker 2>already talked about the Ohio State Michigan freakouts. Tough matchup

0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:18.160
<v Speaker 2>here going up against Nil Madness. Yes, you and I

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Nil boom boo. We You and I talked about the possibility,

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:30.640
<v Speaker 2>the weirdest possible ways that NIL could be applied, and

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:33.799
<v Speaker 2>I believe at the coffee shop before this, our conclusion

0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:37.160
<v Speaker 2>was JT. Daniels accepting money from the Qataris to play

0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:41.239
<v Speaker 2>in an off shoot league. So I believe that was

0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:42.000
<v Speaker 2>what we came up with.

0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Here is my pitch. Here's my pitch, maybe a soft pitch.

0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:47.840
<v Speaker 1>In the shadow of Mike Goelick junior're talking about not

0:52:47.920 --> 0:52:49.719
<v Speaker 1>getting paid to play in the I think it's the

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:54.520
<v Speaker 1>fx FL. Okay, it's almost the XFL. It's the FXFL

0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:56.879
<v Speaker 1>that was their commercial on the side of a bus.

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it is worthwhile in that NBA players when

0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:07.719
<v Speaker 1>it's not working out for them in the NBA, they

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 1>can retire, they can coach, they can go sit and

0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:13.360
<v Speaker 1>be the fourteenth man and be that. Like Pseudo. I

0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know how familiar are with the NBAB Like Eudonnas.

0:53:15.480 --> 0:53:17.439
<v Speaker 1>Haslam has been on the Miami Heat and hasn't played

0:53:17.520 --> 0:53:20.000
<v Speaker 1>meaningful minutes since like two thousand and six.

0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 2>And that's great locker room guy. He's a guy. He's

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:23.080
<v Speaker 2>a glue guy.

0:53:23.120 --> 0:53:25.799
<v Speaker 1>He's a culture guy, sure, But a lot of these

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:27.759
<v Speaker 1>guys who still have some life in their legs in

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the NBA, they'll go to China, right, and they'll cash

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:33.239
<v Speaker 1>in like Dwight Howard's averaging forty seven points for the

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Beijing Ducks. All I'm saying is I want an nil

0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:41.960
<v Speaker 1>option from some possibly problematic state. But I'm saying, and

0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not mocking problematic states, they are problematic. But what

0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying is I want guys who just can't find

0:53:48.840 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 1>that home right, that JT. Daniels, that whoever that has

0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:55.600
<v Speaker 1>transferred a couple of times down on their luck. I

0:53:55.760 --> 0:53:58.600
<v Speaker 1>want them to go be a god in the Philippines.

0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:02.279
<v Speaker 1>That's all I want. Like I want, I want to

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:05.200
<v Speaker 1>hear about somebody I've forgotten about, like in four years.

0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear about Dju making one hundred and

0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:11.040
<v Speaker 1>forty million dollars in Sri Lanka. That's all I want

0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:12.920
<v Speaker 1>for these guys that if look, it's not gonna work

0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:16.280
<v Speaker 1>out as a college football player stateside, but for whatever reason,

0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:18.520
<v Speaker 1>it's really worked out for them in Taipei.

0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I sat jaw a gape earlier when we looked up

0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:24.440
<v Speaker 2>some of these Chinese basketball stats. Oh yeah, it's in

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:27.839
<v Speaker 2>Kyler Hansbro two years ago. Yeah, it's like thirty eight

0:54:27.920 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 2>years old. At this point was averaging thirty three points.

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Again, yes, so so this has gone off the rails.

0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:39.840
<v Speaker 1>But there is something kind of fun about nil because

0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 1>we don't know anything, right, We don't know the accurate numbers.

0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 1>We hear about quarterbacks, we hear about you know, schools

0:54:45.640 --> 0:54:53.400
<v Speaker 1>like Tennessee or now recently you see like congratulations, yeah exactly,

0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 1>and you hear about like Miami and Oregon. Right, they've

0:54:57.120 --> 0:55:00.520
<v Speaker 1>got this like one big booster. And the funny like

0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:03.040
<v Speaker 1>line behind the scenes with Oregon is like, we gotta

0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:07.759
<v Speaker 1>win before Phil goes. We gotta he's eighty four, we

0:55:07.840 --> 0:55:10.239
<v Speaker 1>gotta make this work. And he's just throwing money into

0:55:10.320 --> 0:55:14.560
<v Speaker 1>the fire. There is something great about that that, you know,

0:55:14.880 --> 0:55:17.960
<v Speaker 1>it's the what the life line, life block whatever? John

0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Ruiz at Miami, like, we shouldn't know these guys's names.

0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:24.080
<v Speaker 1>But now it's sort of in the light a little bit,

0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:27.760
<v Speaker 1>and they're paying players what their market, the market deems

0:55:27.840 --> 0:55:32.600
<v Speaker 1>them to be worth. There's something wonderful and mysterious about it.

0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:34.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now all the under the table stuff is above

0:55:34.920 --> 0:55:35.320
<v Speaker 2>the table.

0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Some of it is, yeah, and it's.

0:55:37.360 --> 0:55:40.239
<v Speaker 2>It's like I can only imagine the first big party

0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:41.640
<v Speaker 2>after they got rid of prohibition.

0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and nobody knows what to do.

0:55:43.200 --> 0:55:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Everybody's just like, what do.

0:55:44.600 --> 0:55:45.279
<v Speaker 1>What do I do with this?

0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Here?

0:55:46.360 --> 0:55:48.120
<v Speaker 1>We are true And what happens now is you'll hear

0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:49.880
<v Speaker 1>recruits saying, well, I could have gotten more to go

0:55:49.960 --> 0:55:51.840
<v Speaker 1>to this school, but I am a man of integrity

0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:54.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to Alabama or whatever for less money.

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:57.760
<v Speaker 1>It's great, it's wonderful. It's it's a new element to things.

0:55:58.080 --> 0:56:01.160
<v Speaker 1>And we had that like that period of time where

0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:04.440
<v Speaker 1>like not recruits, but active players are doing commercials and

0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:06.879
<v Speaker 1>they still are, like you have the Nebraska dB Duck,

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Coldest Crawford wonderful, the air conditioning commercial. Excuse me, but

0:56:11.880 --> 0:56:14.480
<v Speaker 1>now this charade is kind of fading into the background

0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:17.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit and it's just guys getting paid, which

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:18.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm great with. I love.

0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:20.880
<v Speaker 2>So NIL clearly has to go through it has to

0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:22.920
<v Speaker 2>go through issues, I think. So it's been such a

0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:25.279
<v Speaker 2>such a big story. We have to put it in

0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:27.400
<v Speaker 2>that we're in favor of it, you're in favor of it.

0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:31.160
<v Speaker 2>That's over what Ohio State over Ohio State and Michigan

0:56:31.200 --> 0:56:32.920
<v Speaker 2>freak outs. The one thing I did want to bring

0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:35.320
<v Speaker 2>up on that on that note, and it really doesn't

0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:37.239
<v Speaker 2>fit in neatly to any of the things that we're

0:56:37.280 --> 0:56:39.560
<v Speaker 2>talking about here. I just wanted to read this quote

0:56:39.560 --> 0:56:42.080
<v Speaker 2>from Jim Harbaugh quote as I stayed in in December.

0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:44.640
<v Speaker 2>While no one knows what the future holds, I expect

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:47.640
<v Speaker 2>that I will be enthusiastically coaching at Michigan in twenty

0:56:47.719 --> 0:56:51.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty three. Who am I? I expect I will be

0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:56.120
<v Speaker 2>enthusiastically married It Like, yeah, what kind of a quote

0:56:56.239 --> 0:56:57.799
<v Speaker 2>is that you're saying?

0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Jim harmlas Jim Harbaugh's firm where it needs to be updated?

0:57:00.640 --> 0:57:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe like he's a chat what is the app? He's

0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a chat GPT coach.

0:57:05.320 --> 0:57:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Here's a little bit of so.

0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:07.360
<v Speaker 1>That is what is it?

0:57:07.440 --> 0:57:08.160
<v Speaker 2>An AI app?

0:57:08.239 --> 0:57:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I have to explain these jokes sometimes.

0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Jim Harbaugh is I joked a long time ago that

0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Jim Harbaugh is what happens when you teach human emotion

0:57:17.160 --> 0:57:20.080
<v Speaker 2>to a robot. Yeah, and I stand by that he's

0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:20.720
<v Speaker 2>a great coach.

0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that this is what you got? Yeah, I

0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:27.280
<v Speaker 1>don't recall those Hamburgers. Yeah, isn't that what he's in

0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:32.000
<v Speaker 1>trouble for? It does not compute, Nil goes through.

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Hey. That brings us to the semi final. All right

0:57:38.520 --> 0:57:41.479
<v Speaker 2>here it is the final four, Final four straight chalk

0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:43.880
<v Speaker 2>in a sense, had some early round upsets, but just

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:46.960
<v Speaker 2>like the real March badness, we get down to the

0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:50.840
<v Speaker 2>top four, we've got Jimbo Fisher's buyout against transfer portal chaos.

0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Dan, mm hmm.

0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:53.520
<v Speaker 2>This is a big one.

0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:56.640
<v Speaker 1>This is a big one. Well again, these are two

0:57:56.720 --> 0:58:00.400
<v Speaker 1>that are linked inextricably because if you followed what Texas

0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:03.840
<v Speaker 1>A and M players are doing, getting the hell out right.

0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:07.680
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's probably portal chaos because it affects

0:58:07.720 --> 0:58:09.800
<v Speaker 1>more teams and it's something that looms over the sport,

0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:12.840
<v Speaker 1>largely in a positive way. But you never know who

0:58:12.960 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 1>is coming, who is going whatever. We know Jimbo Fish

0:58:15.720 --> 0:58:17.920
<v Speaker 1>is gonna leave Texas A and M. We don't know

0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:20.000
<v Speaker 1>if it's this year. We know it's probably gonna happen

0:58:20.000 --> 0:58:23.600
<v Speaker 1>in the next couple of years. I think Bobby Patrino

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:25.840
<v Speaker 1>is a nice agent of chaos to speed things up.

0:58:27.200 --> 0:58:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Nice catalyst if you wanted to speed up the process

0:58:30.600 --> 0:58:36.400
<v Speaker 1>and perhaps use the term for cause, maybe bringing Bobby

0:58:36.440 --> 0:58:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Patrino to do some dirty work. Am I am? I

0:58:42.000 --> 0:58:44.560
<v Speaker 1>am I implying that Bobby Patrino is a double agents.

0:58:45.840 --> 0:58:48.400
<v Speaker 1>That wouldn't be fair. Yes, I am. I'm absolutely implying

0:58:48.920 --> 0:58:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Bobby Patrino has been hired for a very specific reason.

0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think the sheer magnitude of the portal this season,

0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:56.760
<v Speaker 2>the fact that we had so many names going in,

0:58:57.160 --> 0:58:59.360
<v Speaker 2>and the fact that you know, granted we'll talk about

0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Nil here. I terily by all the tampering that we

0:59:01.960 --> 0:59:06.240
<v Speaker 2>know happened that nobody talks about, and how it's inextricably

0:59:06.360 --> 0:59:09.880
<v Speaker 2>linked to Nil. And it's like there is definitely a

0:59:09.960 --> 0:59:12.480
<v Speaker 2>wild West quality to the portal. And what I find

0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:15.040
<v Speaker 2>amusing about it is that it's always the coaches that

0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:17.080
<v Speaker 2>are losing, the transfers that try to take the mortal

0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:19.240
<v Speaker 2>high ground. Pat ar Doozy, Oh my god, Pat's the

0:59:19.320 --> 0:59:22.440
<v Speaker 2>best patent Ardozy, as I've said before, doesn't ky, He

0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:24.200
<v Speaker 2>doesn't give any fs. I won't say the word right

0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:27.520
<v Speaker 2>at this point, Pat Nardoozy is like ready to speak

0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:29.920
<v Speaker 2>on any and everybody who wants to hear it.

0:59:30.160 --> 0:59:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I would pay five dollars a month for patn Ardozy substack.

0:59:32.960 --> 0:59:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I would now sign me up. I'd probably pay twelve

0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:38.480
<v Speaker 1>dollars to twenty dollars a month. If Patton Ardozy was like,

0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:41.200
<v Speaker 1>here is all of the dirty laundry, I'm totally in

0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:45.000
<v Speaker 1>for that substack tie. Yeah, you're absolutely right though.

0:59:45.360 --> 0:59:46.800
<v Speaker 2>It's got to be the portal. Right, we got to

0:59:46.800 --> 0:59:48.880
<v Speaker 2>put the number one overall seed through. I'm putting the

0:59:48.920 --> 0:59:51.000
<v Speaker 2>portal through over jim What do you guys think, would

0:59:51.000 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 2>you go, Jimbo? Would you go portal?

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:54.920
<v Speaker 1>But like, yeah, it's portal portal.

0:59:56.000 --> 0:59:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we have to.

0:59:57.560 --> 0:59:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think life is too grand out here to

0:59:59.600 --> 1:00:00.920
<v Speaker 1>be concerned with Jimbo Fisher.

1:00:02.000 --> 1:00:10.120
<v Speaker 2>All right. That brings us to nil madness, which we

1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:14.480
<v Speaker 2>just talked about versus something that on our slides before

1:00:15.320 --> 1:00:18.200
<v Speaker 2>we had labeled as us see you later. And the

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<v Speaker 2>reason we left UCLA off again is because you said,

1:00:20.280 --> 1:00:20.840
<v Speaker 2>no one gives a shit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's real tough. It's real tough to find UCLA people. Yeah,

1:00:26.400 --> 1:00:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that's all, Okay, we have we have the twos, all right,

1:00:31.720 --> 1:00:33.360
<v Speaker 1>nobody can see them, all right, So we've got three

1:00:33.840 --> 1:00:35.240
<v Speaker 1>three U c l A people here.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is why I think we need to pick nil. Yeah,

1:00:38.000 --> 1:00:43.520
<v Speaker 2>because USC and u c l A will remain profitable

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<v Speaker 2>for whatever conference they go into next. Right, we'll pay

1:00:46.200 --> 1:00:49.400
<v Speaker 2>dividends well into the future. There will come a point

1:00:49.400 --> 1:00:51.800
<v Speaker 2>in time where folks look at NIL and they say,

1:00:51.840 --> 1:00:53.960
<v Speaker 2>we paid what for a freshman quarterback? The r O

1:00:54.120 --> 1:00:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I will eventually catch up to the people paying this money.

1:00:57.360 --> 1:00:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm here for that story.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do you remember that people with a ton

1:01:01.920 --> 1:01:04.960
<v Speaker 1>of money just love spending money, and they spend it

1:01:05.000 --> 1:01:07.560
<v Speaker 1>on all sorts of crazy things. I think they're underestimating

1:01:07.600 --> 1:01:10.360
<v Speaker 1>that a little bit. Okay, that's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So are you thinking maybe it's your Southern California bias showing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you thinking maybe USC and UCLA is probably the bigger,

1:01:18.960 --> 1:01:21.720
<v Speaker 2>the bigger, so more impactful story from this college football

1:01:21.760 --> 1:01:23.240
<v Speaker 2>seas maybe the one true champion.

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<v Speaker 1>As representatives of realignment. Yes, I don't think USC and

1:01:27.520 --> 1:01:30.520
<v Speaker 1>UCLA resonate. Perhaps, I mean USC resonates right, they have

1:01:30.560 --> 1:01:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the Heisman Trophy winner. It's a bigger program. Whatever. I'll

1:01:32.720 --> 1:01:34.680
<v Speaker 1>due respect to UCLA. I grew up at UCLA fan

1:01:34.760 --> 1:01:36.600
<v Speaker 1>down here. I know what it's like to have nobody

1:01:36.680 --> 1:01:40.680
<v Speaker 1>recognize who you are and your team. I miss Kate

1:01:40.760 --> 1:01:46.160
<v Speaker 1>McNown There is something about the shifting wins of the

1:01:46.240 --> 1:01:49.800
<v Speaker 1>sport that USC and UCLA represent, and you all of

1:01:49.800 --> 1:01:52.560
<v Speaker 1>a sudden you have Big twelve and Pac twelve people

1:01:52.680 --> 1:01:55.000
<v Speaker 1>yelling at each other online over TV ratings.

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<v Speaker 2>It's awful. It's truly bad.

1:01:59.320 --> 1:02:02.520
<v Speaker 1>And so because that is permeated the sport and Texas

1:02:02.560 --> 1:02:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and Oklahoma leaving the sport, and it is, by the way,

1:02:06.560 --> 1:02:08.480
<v Speaker 1>as an aside, it will be very fun for Oklahoma

1:02:08.600 --> 1:02:10.600
<v Speaker 1>to take on Lincoln Riley and Texas A and M

1:02:10.680 --> 1:02:11.280
<v Speaker 1>in a few years.

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<v Speaker 2>I am just.

1:02:15.720 --> 1:02:22.360
<v Speaker 1>It's his destiny. Do you not understand this? I don't

1:02:22.360 --> 1:02:24.480
<v Speaker 1>know if it's an off season story. I mean, realignment

1:02:24.560 --> 1:02:26.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of comes and goes. I don't know how much

1:02:26.720 --> 1:02:29.440
<v Speaker 1>it's actually going to change the college football experience because

1:02:30.000 --> 1:02:32.080
<v Speaker 1>teams aren't going away. The thing it'll change if teams

1:02:32.080 --> 1:02:34.680
<v Speaker 1>like Oregon State and Washington State become like Mountain West teams.

1:02:35.000 --> 1:02:37.320
<v Speaker 1>That's a big change, and that's that's a worthwhile thing

1:02:37.400 --> 1:02:40.560
<v Speaker 1>to talk about. But you're saying nil madness. I think

1:02:40.640 --> 1:02:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Nil is going to have a bigger grip on this sport.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in Los Angeles. Yes, you know who are we

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<v Speaker 2>going with?

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<v Speaker 1>Here?

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<v Speaker 2>We go in US US.

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<v Speaker 1>The USC guy of course, said we're going to sc UCLA. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, are you are you happy about being a

1:02:57.280 --> 1:03:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Big ten program? Are you making any money off of it?

1:03:01.800 --> 1:03:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1:03:02.240 --> 1:03:04.720
<v Speaker 1>So that's the thing, that's the tough thing. I will

1:03:04.720 --> 1:03:08.800
<v Speaker 1>go USC UCLA just because it'll it'll. It's I was

1:03:08.840 --> 1:03:11.080
<v Speaker 1>going ANIL, but people here said us the UCLA, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a prisoner to these attractive people.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, the three is going through. Yes, let's

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<v Speaker 2>decide our one true champion, Dan, Okay, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a big time matchup. It is USC UCLA

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<v Speaker 2>leaving the PAC twelve, going east east to the Big ten. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>versus transfer portal chaos. Yeah, this is a BigGAN. Who's

1:03:35.120 --> 1:03:36.320
<v Speaker 2>favored and who do you got?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm going portal chaos because there is something

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<v Speaker 1>that there will be contracts drawn up with USC and

1:03:47.880 --> 1:03:51.160
<v Speaker 1>UCLA leaving when they're going, What the travel looks like,

1:03:51.280 --> 1:03:54.280
<v Speaker 1>what the schedules look like, what the TV listings look like.

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<v Speaker 1>With the portal, there's nothing like you can leave once

1:03:58.800 --> 1:04:00.520
<v Speaker 1>for free and then you're a grad tran you can

1:04:00.640 --> 1:04:04.520
<v Speaker 1>leave again. But they're the tampering stuff, which I mean

1:04:04.640 --> 1:04:06.600
<v Speaker 1>is wonderful, and I just hope we get more stories

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<v Speaker 1>about tampering. I like I said, I'm going to subscribe

1:04:09.680 --> 1:04:13.840
<v Speaker 1>to paton Ardoozy's eventual substack. I think that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the movement in the sport. I mean, these

1:04:16.200 --> 1:04:18.920
<v Speaker 1>are both representative of movement in the sport, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it is the portal stuff that teams can get

1:04:22.320 --> 1:04:25.200
<v Speaker 1>so much better so quickly, or teams can plug holes,

1:04:25.280 --> 1:04:29.360
<v Speaker 1>or teams can become deeper that the usc UCLA thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is more of a bummer. But maybe I'm

1:04:32.560 --> 1:04:36.040
<v Speaker 1>a biased Oregon fan there Whereas I think the portal thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I like chaos in this sport. I like the unpredictable,

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<v Speaker 1>I like the novelty. So my bias says portal chaos.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that's interesting about this, much like the much

1:04:46.880 --> 1:04:50.160
<v Speaker 2>like the Dabo Sweeney versus the transfer portal that we

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<v Speaker 2>had earlier on in this bracket is Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the game that we've got on Monday, outside

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<v Speaker 2>of the playoff and some of the stories that came

1:04:59.120 --> 1:05:01.520
<v Speaker 2>as a resultable season Yeah, you could argue that the

1:05:01.640 --> 1:05:04.960
<v Speaker 2>USC and UCLA thing versus a transfer portal sort of

1:05:05.000 --> 1:05:07.560
<v Speaker 2>defined the season even before it started. Sure, right, so

1:05:07.680 --> 1:05:10.080
<v Speaker 2>this is a very representative matchup of where college football is.

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<v Speaker 1>But how much did we talk about it as a collective?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously was talked about here, but like during

1:05:16.680 --> 1:05:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the season where there are a lot of conversations about

1:05:19.160 --> 1:05:21.200
<v Speaker 1>like what the Big ten will be in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It was definitely the subject of many a comment that

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<v Speaker 2>we got on YouTube that started with kids these days.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, absolutely, kids these days, yeah.

1:05:32.120 --> 1:05:34.959
<v Speaker 2>Right, or the networks are running college.

1:05:34.640 --> 1:05:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Football administrators these days.

1:05:37.200 --> 1:05:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Every cynical online, extremely online college football fan had a

1:05:42.040 --> 1:05:44.800
<v Speaker 2>little something to sink their teeth into with USC and

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<v Speaker 2>UCLA leaving as well as the transfer portal in the chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we can just ask Mike what his winner is.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike, could you pick.

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<v Speaker 1>He's thinking he is a professional thinker and talking thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Or we can we can ask a more.

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<v Speaker 1>Accomplished football player, Marshall, what do you think port portal?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the champion, true champion.

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<v Speaker 2>Give it up for the transfer portal, the one true

1:06:32.920 --> 1:06:36.760
<v Speaker 2>champion of our college football season. Transfer portal chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the Heisman Trophy winner emerged from the

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<v Speaker 1>transfer portal fight of right. Yeah yeah, So, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Transfer portal chaos. So amid a field of eleven other peers,

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<v Speaker 2>some more equal than others. Transfer portal wins.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you've sent me borderline inappropriate messages about Sam Hartman.

1:06:58.320 --> 1:07:01.360
<v Speaker 1>I got to watch bo Nick instead of whatever Mario

1:07:01.480 --> 1:07:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Christobal was doing at Oregon. I'm a pretty big fan.

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<v Speaker 1>You seem to be a pretty big fan. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>you DM Devin Leary's high school coach. Randomly, That's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>I just made that up. It was a one time thing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Tie is not a representative of the is al Borland

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<v Speaker 2>Beard will fit in very nice.

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<v Speaker 1>We love it.

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<v Speaker 2>They love it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Transfer Portal is our one true champion.

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<v Speaker 2>One true champion. Play your hands together with the Transfer Portal.

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<v Speaker 2>With that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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<v Speaker 2>for myself, Tie Hill and brand thanks for coming on

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<v Speaker 2>out here to the Solid Heblive, Stay solid peace. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the way this works. This microphone in between.

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<v Speaker 2>We are gonna bring this down there. We should make

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<v Speaker 2>people sit right next to us. Yeah, we'll bring this

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<v Speaker 2>down to the somewhere in the middle between the seats. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll do about a half hour Q and A typically

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<v Speaker 2>is what we do want and most of our live show.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you got anything you want to ask, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to ask anything. If you don't want to,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine too, but we'll put this down there. Just

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<v Speaker 2>line up and fire away, ask you to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna trip and get personal with Tie, really dig in.

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<v Speaker 1>Smell ties. Don't smell ties hair you can?

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<v Speaker 5>That?

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<v Speaker 2>Will?

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<v Speaker 1>That be a new tear on Patreon. Okay,