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Speaker 2: Not a sponsor, could be, absolutely could be. So the
Speaker 2: name of this show, the code name for this show
Speaker 2: for people who listen, knows that we've been talking about
Speaker 2: one true champion, Yes, for a couple of months now,
Speaker 2: one true champ. What does that mean? Well, two things
Speaker 2: happened about a month ago. The first is that the
Speaker 2: College Football Playoff Selection Committee announced the top four, the
Speaker 2: four teams that will be competing for the national championship.
Speaker 2: We obviously know who the final two are. That's the first.
Speaker 2: The second is that they finally came to a even
Speaker 2: with a Rose Bowl on expanding things to twelve teams
Speaker 2: starting in twenty twenty four. Yep, you and I decided, ah,
Speaker 2: now we're gonna do it our own way. Correct, We're
Speaker 2: going to expand the playoff in the way that we
Speaker 2: see fit. We're also not going to just play it
Speaker 2: off between those four teams. We're going to expand to twelve,
Speaker 2: and we're going to make our own.
Speaker 1: We also don't have that capability to put on a
Speaker 1: tournament of teams. The budget's not there yet. But in
Speaker 1: the way that we do fantasy things before the season,
Speaker 1: we are going to find twelve things that we think
Speaker 1: have best come to define the twenty twenty two season
Speaker 1: and whittle it down to the one true champion things storyline, movement,
Speaker 1: whatever is that accurate?
Speaker 2: That is accurate? Okay, So we've got twelve college football narratives,
Speaker 2: things that move the needle for us this past season.
Speaker 2: We're going to put them in brackets. We originally had slides,
Speaker 2: but my dongle and you have the easy tie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: don't talk about your dongle in front of these at all.
Speaker 2: That the dongle didn't work the way it was supposed
Speaker 2: to be, Okay, and thank you. So, so we're gonna
Speaker 2: do engage in a little theater of the mind here
Speaker 2: talking through what that's cool, what all of these twelve
Speaker 2: matchups are. But you can envision a twelve thing twelve
Speaker 2: team bracket. Yeah, that will be popp You can hold
Speaker 2: up your phone. I could show it now we're not
Speaker 2: gonna do that, Okay, yes, continue. So it's it's a
Speaker 2: twelve thing bracket of our own creation. And by the
Speaker 2: end of this thing, maybe we can get some fan participation.
Speaker 2: We've got some special guests who are gonna.
Speaker 1: Help us on the way.
Speaker 2: We plan on naming the one true champion, Not Georgia,
Speaker 2: not TCU, no, one true Saliverbal champion of the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two season.
Speaker 1: Why not do it in front of beautiful attractive people.
Speaker 2: Right, we have this sound too. You guys can tell
Speaker 2: me which one you like better. I stole this one.
Speaker 1: Shout out CBS. They didn't license it to us.
Speaker 2: It's sort of like a Jurassic Park version of CBA.
Speaker 4: And then I have.
Speaker 2: To all right, it's a little better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right? Shall we start with round one? I
Speaker 1: would love your hands to get it for round one.
Speaker 1: So we've seeded this right. It's organized in the way
Speaker 1: any other twelve team bracket would be organized. So the
Speaker 1: first four seeds have a bye, first four seeds have
Speaker 1: a bye.
Speaker 2: These this first round of games is being played at
Speaker 2: they're home games. Okay, right, so I don't know what
Speaker 2: that means, right, but our first matchup is a five
Speaker 2: to twelve, which, ohulie. For anybody who actually listens to
Speaker 2: the actual tournam man, okay, brackets, you follow it. You know,
Speaker 2: a five to twelve can be very, very dangerous. It's
Speaker 2: always danger five seed in this bracket is coach catastrophes.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're gonna have to unpack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the twelve seed is something that you wanted
Speaker 2: to call desperately, the Big ten West sad Mall. Yes, so.
Speaker 1: I'll unpack that one as well. Everybody familiar with wherever
Speaker 1: they're from, there's a good mall and a sad mall, Right,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. The good ball might be outdoors,
Speaker 1: there might be a couple department stores that are still
Speaker 1: busy something like that. The sad mall is like, wow,
Speaker 1: people are still buying shoes there. Yeah, not that they're
Speaker 1: bad shoes, but it's that the employees seem a little
Speaker 1: bit sad and the ground hasn't been cleaned in a bit.
Speaker 1: And so what we are going to determine is essentially,
Speaker 1: which one of these coaching catastrophes, which is a broad term,
Speaker 1: and we can go through a number of examples. Or
Speaker 1: was the sad mall that was the Big Ten West.
Speaker 1: If you remember late in the season when Northwestern was terrible,
Speaker 1: they were objectively terrible at football. There were tweets outlining
Speaker 1: they still have a chance. That's the kind of division
Speaker 1: it was. And so I don't know if you want
Speaker 1: to go through some coaches and look at where they
Speaker 1: might be working in said mall, but I have PJ
Speaker 1: Fleck at Lady Foot Locker. You didn't ask, but I
Speaker 1: think it's a natural fit.
Speaker 2: Well, the coach catastrophes, I actually wanted to turn that
Speaker 2: one over to you, Okay, you took a certain amount
Speaker 2: of sadistic joy in the plight of one Mario crystal
Speaker 2: Ball this past season.
Speaker 1: I was just so familiar and what a catastrophe it was.
Speaker 2: It really was a beautiful catastrophe.
Speaker 1: It was because I'm not gonna say I knew it
Speaker 1: was gonna happen. I figured he would have some success
Speaker 1: at Miami, but the fact that something came out in
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks that Manny Diaz and his
Speaker 1: thirty whatever games allowed hit five games of forty points
Speaker 1: or something like that, and in Mario Crystaball's first year
Speaker 1: was like nine of them allowing so look between Mario Cristobal,
Speaker 1: between Brent Venables, between Kirk Farns. We'll get there. We'll
Speaker 1: get there. Around the sports, around the sport, there were
Speaker 1: some pretty catastrophic coaching situations that Look, it started with
Speaker 1: I think what was the to you the opening shot
Speaker 1: of the coach? Was it South Dakota State, Iowa?
Speaker 2: That was it? Like?
Speaker 1: What was the true apex moment? What was the climax settle?
Speaker 1: What was the climax to you? Was it Tennessee Miami?
Speaker 2: Well, middle Tennessee Miami. I believe was a little bit
Speaker 2: later on in the year.
Speaker 1: I know, I understand this.
Speaker 2: I think the one for me that really was like
Speaker 2: whoa was Oklahoma Texas?
Speaker 1: Oklahoma Texas was top forty nine?
Speaker 2: Was that the final?
Speaker 1: It was forty nine nothing? And it was a situation
Speaker 1: they didn't Oklahoma didn't have their starting quarterback. So it's
Speaker 1: somewhat understandable.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that one. The beauty of that.
Speaker 1: Specific catastrophe was for four or five weeks you watched
Speaker 1: Oklahoma and you're.
Speaker 2: Like, all right, little scrappy, there's something there.
Speaker 1: And then the end of the TCU game, and then
Speaker 1: when you get to the point where you're looking at
Speaker 1: a box score and there's a number like one point
Speaker 1: eight or two point four next to QBR or yards
Speaker 1: per attempt, that's going to be a long weekend on
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma message boards.
Speaker 2: Well, between Miami and Oklahoma, fourteen losses between those two
Speaker 2: first year head coaches.
Speaker 1: Yes, could have been worse.
Speaker 2: Appreciative crowd here. I appreciate that. I'm sure I don't
Speaker 2: know if they do. No. And then you mentioned Oklahoma
Speaker 2: and what their plight was, right, and if we're talking
Speaker 2: about the Big ten West sad mall, there was this
Speaker 2: thing that we joked about on our show called Nebraska.
Speaker 1: Lightis Nebraska colitis? Like Nebraska colitis?
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a very mysterious thing. You could
Speaker 2: argue that Northwestern was sort of patient zero. They caught
Speaker 2: the European strain.
Speaker 1: Yep, they caught the the European variant of Nebraska litis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there were seven is seven or eight games
Speaker 2: that Nebraska played and then the week following or the
Speaker 2: game following for those respective opponents, right, they lost, Yes,
Speaker 2: I've got Northwestern Georgia, Southern Oklahoma, Indiana, Perdue, Illinois, and Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: And by the way, Michigan almost lost. Correct, that was
Speaker 2: that game against Illinois where they won nineteen seventeen. So
Speaker 2: you know, somebody else can do the math on what
Speaker 2: percentage of the opponents that was. But playing Nebraska, just
Speaker 2: having exposure to Nebraska was not a good thing either.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure you have a friend or you and
Speaker 1: solid wife Kate have like a couple friend who are like,
Speaker 1: they're just kind of downers and they bring everybody down
Speaker 1: and you just feel kind of icky after you leave
Speaker 1: their place, sort of like you know the Office episode
Speaker 1: with with Michael and jan where everybody's like, oh man,
Speaker 1: this really hurts to watch, and there is something about
Speaker 1: like you go to Lincoln, Nebraska and you watch how
Speaker 1: dysfunctional Nebraska got that it just stays with you. But
Speaker 1: whatever you call the European variant for Northwest.
Speaker 2: Or European stream, Yeah, So I mean by a show
Speaker 2: of well applause, who would vote for coach catastrophees in
Speaker 2: this matchup, it's coach Catastrophes against a big ten West
Speaker 2: sad mall coach catastrophees.
Speaker 1: I think they like the sad mall.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a sad mall crowd sad mall. Yeah. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I have let's see, I have Pat Fitzgerald at
Speaker 1: a sad leather store. Does that make sense, like a
Speaker 1: Wilson's Leather.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've got Jeff Brahm. He's running like a massage kiosk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be there either. Care for Jeff
Speaker 1: Broum won the Big ten West and he was like,
Speaker 1: this is too sad.
Speaker 2: I need to go.
Speaker 1: Who else do we have in the Big ten West? Obviously,
Speaker 1: Scott Frost is in like a Hollister something. We talked
Speaker 1: about the guy. He's got the sad pooka vibe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sad Pookah, Scott Frost. I don't know where this is
Speaker 1: all coming from. Who else do we have in the
Speaker 1: Big ten West? We'll get to Kirk Farens later. There
Speaker 1: was something about Wisconsin and Graham Mertz where it was like,
Speaker 1: we're sticking with him no matter what. We've invested so
Speaker 1: much in this. I don't know what that is in
Speaker 1: like the inventory at hot Dog on a Stick or
Speaker 1: something like that. Where's that food court that's always has
Speaker 1: the samples like, please take some.
Speaker 2: More grammar takes them.
Speaker 1: We can't get He's probably a nice guy. That sounds
Speaker 1: very mean, but like that was the vibe I got
Speaker 1: from this year's Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: So we've got our first upset. We're gonna put it
Speaker 2: go through. We plan in putting the five through, but
Speaker 2: twelve through.
Speaker 1: There is I'm I can't wait to talk about Brett
Speaker 1: Bielima's role in the sad.
Speaker 2: That brings us to an eight to nine matchup, Dan.
Speaker 1: We're getting some snaps. It's this literal, snappy little tip.
Speaker 1: This is look at this, this is oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is great.
Speaker 2: This is going to be an earworm situation for a
Speaker 2: lot of these folks. The eighth seed in this bracket
Speaker 2: is something we called weirdly human Alabama. Yes, and the
Speaker 2: nine this is my favorite one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The nine is Dabbo Sweeney slowly melting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the visual immediately you can kind of visualize him.
Speaker 2: No, you can see that. So why don't we start
Speaker 2: with Alabama and then we can get to Dabble. It
Speaker 2: says something about a team when it's a catastrophe to
Speaker 2: go ten and two. When you go ten and two,
Speaker 2: and that's an abject failure in some sense. I mean
Speaker 2: that says a pretty good deal about your program. So
Speaker 2: they're in a good place. But there was this thing
Speaker 2: and we struggled with it all season trying to pick
Speaker 2: these Alabama games, especially after we saw the Texas one.
Speaker 2: After that game in Week two, our our thought was that, well,
Speaker 2: maybe Texas is really good.
Speaker 1: Sure what an incredible loss?
Speaker 2: May text is just really good, Like Texas is back
Speaker 2: really yeah, text not so much spoiler earlier. Yeah, Alabama
Speaker 2: was just weirdly human.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So are you familiar with I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's US Weekly or in Style, you know the kind
Speaker 1: of magazine I'm talking about. They have this segment called
Speaker 1: Stars Colin.
Speaker 2: They're just like us, that's right. Are you familiar with that?
Speaker 2: Or I am familiar with this.
Speaker 1: They'll show Ben Affleck just tired and sad while smoking
Speaker 1: a cigarette. It's like, well, or they'll show I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's the greatest paparazzi picture ever taken. Have
Speaker 1: you ever seen Jonah Hill and the iced coffee? Has
Speaker 1: anybody seen this? Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: So it's Jonah Hill holding an ice coffee but the
Speaker 1: frame is exactly when he's holding from the lid. And
Speaker 1: I didn't anticipate going here by the way where the
Speaker 1: ice coffee is falling from the lid, and it's just
Speaker 1: Jonah Hill. And so you think to yourself, Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: been there, like I have bad pores when I go
Speaker 1: to get a salad.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: There is something about this year's Alabama reminiscent of Sure,
Speaker 1: my team has been torched by Tennessee. Sure, Brian Kelly
Speaker 1: has somehow beaten my team late, Sure, Ole miss almost
Speaker 1: beat my team with a sloppy performance. That was the
Speaker 1: vibe of the like stars. They're just like us. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Ben Affleck is excellent at what he does, but when
Speaker 1: you show him a little bit paunchy, as we all
Speaker 1: have been, Sure, Ben, I get you, I feel you.
Speaker 1: The holidays are tough for all of us.
Speaker 2: The interesting thing that I learned about Alabama, and specifically
Speaker 2: Alabama fans this year. You could say anything you want
Speaker 2: about Alabama. Yeah, it could be as mean as mean
Speaker 2: spirited as you can possibly conjure up. No, Alabama fans
Speaker 2: will sten to National Collegeotball podcast. No, they're so good.
Speaker 2: They have constructed their own parallel universe. Yeah, with their
Speaker 2: own podcasts and their own websites and their own appear makers.
Speaker 2: They don't listen to us. So it was very freeing
Speaker 2: to be able to talk about weirdly human Alabama once
Speaker 2: we realized it was a thing. I don't even think
Speaker 2: without any repercussions whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody had Alabama takes this year. They
Speaker 1: were on Alabama Plus and the rest of us had
Speaker 1: the standard package.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so on the Alabama front. Speaking of Alabama, and
Speaker 2: we've talked about this in the show time and time again,
Speaker 2: but the fact that Alabama has been on this run
Speaker 2: under Nick Saban has really poisoned the well for a
Speaker 2: lot of other schools. Yes, when it comes to coaches
Speaker 2: and trying to build up any kind of national recognition
Speaker 2: and program building and what have you. Clemson, Clemson thought
Speaker 2: a lot of people thought for a good long time
Speaker 2: that if Nick Saban leaves, maybe Dabosweney would take that job.
Speaker 2: Right then this year kind of happened and you start
Speaker 2: to wonder, Okay, well, Clemson's had a lot of success,
Speaker 2: but now they're starting to lose coaches and players maybe
Speaker 2: are transferring out and suddenly people are putting microphones in
Speaker 2: front of Dabo, ask him social questions, like social issues.
Speaker 2: That always ends, well, yeah, and it's just like I'm
Speaker 2: not saying it's falling apart, but there is a sense
Speaker 2: that maybe it is slowly melting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was. There was the issue of like, who
Speaker 1: is your actual starting quarterback going to be? And then
Speaker 1: he said, well, kay Klebnick's gonna play. That was the preseason,
Speaker 1: and then throughout the season he said, dj use our guy.
Speaker 1: And then they gave a bajillion yards up to wake
Speaker 1: Forest and he always used to love using That was
Speaker 1: the Roy Bust. The rest of y'all right, and that,
Speaker 1: oh little old Clemson. There were moments we're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you are a little old Clemson and it's not going
Speaker 1: super well. You could see the veins popping a little
Speaker 1: bit more for Davia's gonna say.
Speaker 2: There were more angry shots of Dabbo and the sidelines
Speaker 2: that I'm accustomed to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh and it was. And the thing is, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna miss Dabbo when he's gone. He's not sick to
Speaker 1: my knowledge, that was that.
Speaker 2: Was worded in phrasing a weird way.
Speaker 1: Not to my knowledge, I'm gonna miss Hi when he's gone,
Speaker 1: because there are so many vanilla coaches out there that
Speaker 1: it's fun to have him in my life because he's
Speaker 1: so ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Dabo Sweeney versus weirdly here, really human Alabama? Are we
Speaker 2: going for weirdly human Alabama? There's the one Alabama? Continue
Speaker 2: Dabo Sweeney, Babbo see the sets. We have two upsets.
Speaker 2: There's so many.
Speaker 1: There's so many little things or in the case of
Speaker 1: his suit, like really big billowy things about Dabbo that I.
Speaker 2: Try to We didn't even get to him running down
Speaker 2: the hill.
Speaker 1: No, oh my god, that's great.
Speaker 2: Continual speaking of slowly melting are next first round matchup
Speaker 2: is a battle of six versus eleven.
Speaker 1: The sixth seed is what.
Speaker 2: The fuck TCU? Yes, I repeat, what the fuck TCU?
Speaker 1: And eleven the.
Speaker 2: Eleven seed is comically terrible backups, Yes, specifically quarterbacks, specifically quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: This one's important and personal to you. It is, I mean,
Speaker 2: I hear. Are we all know where this is going?
Speaker 1: Folks?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Oklahoma a problem with curious backups. Davis Bevel really against Tes,
Speaker 2: they had that and Oklahoma State had as I like
Speaker 2: to call something called Garrett.
Speaker 1: Rangerett Wrangle and Gunner Gundy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gundhy, but I'm sorry, this is a Drew Pine category.
Speaker 1: Category says, this is the Drew Pine.
Speaker 2: Entrant in our bracket. I was told by a friend,
Speaker 2: and you remember this several weeks ago, that Drew Pine
Speaker 2: is built like me, like Tie, I'm built like a podcaster. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's different ish, Yeah, And what what I mean what
Speaker 2: kind of amazed me about the whole Drew Pine experience
Speaker 2: is that he was so bad. He was actually kind
Speaker 2: of good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He had a twenty two to six touchdown interception ratio,
Speaker 2: and they turned him from a really bad backup at
Speaker 2: the start of the season into what I've come to
Speaker 2: now say is a quarter bot. In that he handed
Speaker 2: the ball off and he threw it to Michael Maher.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was programmed for a very speci responsibility.
Speaker 2: He was like the terminator in a sense, right, and
Speaker 2: so they found a way to win a games with that.
Speaker 2: And not only that, but they gave him the confidence
Speaker 2: to believe that he should be the starter next year,
Speaker 2: which is why transferred us right.
Speaker 1: Good luck with that there is I had a hypothetical
Speaker 1: a number of years ago that I was especially proud of,
Speaker 1: and it was, would you rather wake up out of
Speaker 1: a dead sleep and you have you're on stage at
Speaker 1: the Oscars having to host and you have to put
Speaker 1: out fifteen minutes of content or whatever it is, Or
Speaker 1: would you rather wake up out of a dead sleep
Speaker 1: and have to sing the national anthem at the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: And you have to sing it? You can't run off,
Speaker 1: and it's difficult, right, I mean, the Super Bowl one's
Speaker 1: over sooner, but you can be made fun of more
Speaker 1: by singing terribly. There is something about this group of
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that like they woke up out of a dead
Speaker 1: sleep and were asked to drive the ball in the
Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl. Because that's what I relate to. That's the
Speaker 1: number of the throws that these gentlemen, who I'm sure
Speaker 1: are nice, capable, They're in better shape than I am,
Speaker 1: They're a better football player. Grades Yeah, absolutely, But there
Speaker 1: is something like you're awake now you have to read
Speaker 1: cover three and Drew Pine is like I'm throwing it
Speaker 1: to the tall guy. And I appreciate that because it
Speaker 1: makes them relatable. Bill.
Speaker 2: I understand that when I heard built like me, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh boy, TCU Like okay, let's talk to you.
Speaker 2: I feel like we got to put TCU through. They're here,
Speaker 2: they're in this game. Yes, And I remember we did
Speaker 2: the preview. Guys who listened to the show, you know,
Speaker 2: I've said it time time again, the preseason quote from
Speaker 2: Sunny Dikes that I hung my hat on and I
Speaker 2: believed in the Sunny Dykes higher. We all thought it
Speaker 2: was a good higher. It's gonna take eighteen months. Eighteen
Speaker 2: months is what it takes about. Eighteen months till we
Speaker 2: get to the point where program stable. We can move
Speaker 2: this thing forward, you know, we can start building for
Speaker 2: the future. It took eighteen weeks. Yeah, it was nothing
Speaker 2: eighteen weeks and suddenly now Woston the Big twelve championship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they were Big twelve Championship adjacent's that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But to do it as quickly as they did
Speaker 2: to get here to this game. We will talk more
Speaker 2: about TCU at some point here, but I feel like
Speaker 2: we have to put TCU through. We can't.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to rely on the beautiful, attractive people
Speaker 1: we're putting TCU through because I have said everything, all
Speaker 1: the thoughts that I have about Davis Bevel at this point,
Speaker 1: I am milked dry. That's so nope, I'm taking that back.
Speaker 1: I'm bringing that back. I'm disgusted with myself for using
Speaker 1: that phrase.
Speaker 2: So we agree on the TCU for.
Speaker 1: I'm pushing TCU through because it's I don't have anything
Speaker 1: really that bad to say about TCU. They're in an
Speaker 1: incredible story and we don't have we don't have anything
Speaker 1: on this list that's incredible other than TCU.
Speaker 2: Is anybody in the audience rooting for Georgia?
Speaker 1: All right, all right, that's great, that's great. No, it's
Speaker 1: it's TCU as a team that traditionally has not been
Speaker 1: in this position. They've They've gotten to this point through
Speaker 1: playing really, really good football. I have been there. They're okay.
Speaker 1: I have a bit of baggage with guys like Max
Speaker 1: dug and bow Nicks, where this has been the ultimate
Speaker 1: redemption year. They don't care. They don't know my name,
Speaker 1: they don't care about me. I was out on bone
Speaker 1: Nicks from very early on. I was out on Max
Speaker 1: Duggan from ver earlier on, early on, and for them
Speaker 1: this year, and there's been a number of guys like this,
Speaker 1: but for Max Duggan backup quarterback TCU, the Frogs first
Speaker 1: year head coach, who like halfway through the season was like, well,
Speaker 1: where's cool hoodies? And then now they're here. I mean
Speaker 1: that's just incredible to me. Yeah, seventy ten.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I like this. This is it's it's very
Speaker 2: it's a vibe, it's very menacing. Yeah. Ohio State and
Speaker 2: Michigan fan freak out love this versus Kansas has a
Speaker 2: pulse now question mark.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the problem with Kansas here is it was
Speaker 1: like a mid October thing and then it went a
Speaker 1: little bit sideways. Still a great story, unbelievable having two
Speaker 1: good quarterbacks. It was a summer fling in a slide hold.
Speaker 1: It was a summer fling. It was a half season story.
Speaker 1: But it came to an end. I think they're in.
Speaker 1: It's a terrific story. I always like it when these
Speaker 1: completely down and out programs make a move right that
Speaker 1: that charge towards mediocrity. But we've got like a very
Speaker 1: quiet woo in the front row charge to mediocrity.
Speaker 2: Whoo.
Speaker 1: But there is something about the existential crises that Michigan
Speaker 1: and Ohio State fans feel. Well, first of all, every week,
Speaker 1: but at this point of the season. Ohio State's out
Speaker 1: of it. They lost to Michigan. You got to fire
Speaker 1: Ryan Day, you have to redo everything as a twelve
Speaker 1: and one eleven in one program. Whatever. And then Michigan
Speaker 1: getting to the point beating Ohio State again, and then well,
Speaker 1: the NCAA has issues with free burgers and Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 1: might go to the NFL. Do you know where those
Speaker 1: rumors are coming from. I think they might be coming
Speaker 1: from inside the house. That might be Jim Harbaugh saying
Speaker 1: I've heard Jim harbough. They got to offer who like?
Speaker 2: Do they like? Oh?
Speaker 1: No, this is Steve Harrball.
Speaker 2: That's what I heard.
Speaker 1: That's where the call is coming from. So there is
Speaker 1: something that Michigan fans and Ohio State fans can't have
Speaker 1: nice things for very.
Speaker 2: Low No, the Kansas story was fun though. I mean, yes,
Speaker 2: it was incredible. Maybe it was short lived, but they
Speaker 2: did go five and oh to start the season. They
Speaker 2: weaseled their ways negative connotation, but they snaked their way.
Speaker 2: Let's okay, thank you up into the top twenty. Huh
Speaker 2: almost beat TCU. He just talked about he's playing in
Speaker 2: this game. Yeah, in forty eight hours. So the fact
Speaker 2: that they got to six wins at all this season
Speaker 2: is a huge accomplishment given the fact that neither of
Speaker 2: the two previous coaches got to six wins in their
Speaker 2: entire arc.
Speaker 1: At Kansas, it puts the thing is that it's unfortunate.
Speaker 1: It puts a lot of pressure on like Pat Fitzgerald, right, Like,
Speaker 1: if Kansas can do it, if Steve could lose one
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five pounds and has a six pack,
Speaker 1: now why can't you, Carl. I don't know where I'm
Speaker 1: going with this, but it does put a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure on other people. I think the Kansas thing is
Speaker 1: a great story.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I think I'm putting through Ohio State.
Speaker 2: Mission heat on that there's a little bit more meat
Speaker 2: on that bone. And plus, both Ohio State and Michigan
Speaker 2: were just they had more of an impact on the
Speaker 2: arc of college football this season. Both made the playoff.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: So it's hard not that we put TCU through. It's
Speaker 2: only fair that we would put Ohio State and Michigan through.
Speaker 2: It will get tougher in the next round though, just
Speaker 2: looking ahead at this bracket recognition, the folks out there
Speaker 2: don't have the benefit of seeing the bracket we will
Speaker 2: get this. So we're going to go Ohio State.
Speaker 1: We're going Ohio State in Michigan existential crises.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the quarterfinals, quarterfinals.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 2: I played the other one that time. Did you guys
Speaker 2: catch that?
Speaker 1: No one?
Speaker 2: No one heard boo, No one heard that.
Speaker 1: Should we bring a warm bottom to this seat? Is
Speaker 1: that what we should do? At this point?
Speaker 2: We can if you want to.
Speaker 1: I would love to. We've got a couple of quarter
Speaker 1: final matchups here. So we've got a one in four
Speaker 1: seed entering the fray, right.
Speaker 2: It's correct. We've got taken time three and four to.
Speaker 1: Take on what a twelve seed in the sad big
Speaker 1: ten West Mall, that's right, and in the nine seed
Speaker 1: Dabo slow melting an overwhelming snap choice.
Speaker 2: Should we talk about tc Should we talk about TCU?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: Should want to talk about tc I just want to
Speaker 2: we talk about TCU. Okay, well, it's fine, and we've
Speaker 2: got a special guest to help us do that. All right,
Speaker 2: So a nine year, ten year yell it out eleven.
Speaker 1: Eleven year NFL veteran and former starting star tackle for
Speaker 1: the TCU horn Frog's Marshall Newhouse come to say.
Speaker 2: Again just a bunch of burly, big dudes on stage.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of meat up here, a lot of meat. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna present the matchup with my beer mustache.
Speaker 1: We have a six seed in What the fuck? TCU?
Speaker 1: Where the hell did this come from? Against? Excuse me, sir?
Speaker 1: We are at Christian University? Excuse me? Sorry? Sorry?
Speaker 2: Do you know that? I asked?
Speaker 1: And I don't know who this is going to offend,
Speaker 1: but I'm almost a half a beer ind I've said.
Speaker 1: I've said to multiple people, it's like, well, TCU, the
Speaker 1: sea is Christian like, it's just a frat place. It's
Speaker 1: just a frat place.
Speaker 4: It's loosely affiliated with the Christ Disciple or something like that, okay.
Speaker 1: Or something like that.
Speaker 2: The proud tc alone.
Speaker 1: Just to show you the importance of the scene. If
Speaker 1: you want that, you to Baylor SMU. That was the
Speaker 1: kind of idea I got from. So, TCU, the frogs
Speaker 1: are in this, but they are trying to prove themselves
Speaker 1: to be more important to the twenty twenty two arc. Then,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have a sound for this
Speaker 1: or anything. Tie that's fine, I don't know. You couldn't
Speaker 1: have got round ball rock for me. No, that would
Speaker 1: have been nice.
Speaker 2: I could work on it.
Speaker 1: USC and UCLA getting the hell out of the Pac twelve.
Speaker 2: See that's tough. That's tough.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So which has been So I just want to talk
Speaker 1: about TCU. There's no way you expected this, No, not
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 4: I mean people were still you know, processing having to
Speaker 4: let go of a guy who's statue is on the
Speaker 4: way into the office for the coaching staff. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: Gary Patterson. So yeah, there's no way you could have
Speaker 4: predicted this. And then subsequently the the pundits put us
Speaker 4: at seventh in the Big twelve. I appreciate it, which
Speaker 4: at different times, right, yeah, at different times this year,
Speaker 4: people you know, have lauded its depth or its lack
Speaker 4: of whatever.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's no way you could have known. Did
Speaker 1: when did you know? Like, I think they're actually something?
Speaker 4: It was Oklahoma. I mean just I was at the game.
Speaker 4: I did a pregame show this year, and you know,
Speaker 4: you're kind of highlighting the players. I met a few
Speaker 4: of the newer guys and we're like, oh, there's gonna
Speaker 4: be a tough game, Oklahoma. You know, we've given them,
Speaker 4: you know, challenges for three quarters most of the years
Speaker 4: in the last five or so. Ye, and then in
Speaker 4: the first quarter we break like two or three long
Speaker 4: plays and Oklahoma looks like disheveled on the sideline. I'm like,
Speaker 4: that's something I've never seen before. Yeah, I mean not
Speaker 4: since two thousand and five. And then by that game,
Speaker 4: I'm like, we just stomped a hole in their forehead.
Speaker 4: This might be for real. So yeah, and then they're
Speaker 4: run after that. But yeah, it was Oklahoma again.
Speaker 1: And Monday night. If we were to give you it
Speaker 1: looks like you have your honesty j just right in
Speaker 1: front of you. Could you The ongoing question is like, well,
Speaker 1: what would it take for TCU? Like, first of all,
Speaker 1: they're a really good team and they've beaten good teams.
Speaker 1: Are you going into this in the way that I
Speaker 1: think TCU is, which is like, it's free money, nobody
Speaker 1: expected us to be here. Let's just play loose and
Speaker 1: see what happens. Or are you of the mind if
Speaker 1: ABC goes in a specific way, this is a real thing.
Speaker 1: It's very real. I think you know.
Speaker 4: TCU fans are pretty realistic fans. We've been kind of
Speaker 4: the doormat for a long time. We're a small school.
Speaker 4: There's just there weren't a lot of expectations are there now.
Speaker 4: But we were realistic before Michigan. I said before the game,
Speaker 4: we need a couple of things to go our way. Turnovers,
Speaker 4: big plays. Who knew that they'll mean two pick sixes
Speaker 4: and you know, a seventy five yard touchdown. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I was very honest about Michigan, and I believe it's
Speaker 4: similar to this. We gotta win the term about there's
Speaker 4: just no way a Georgia program that's accumulated five star
Speaker 4: athletes for six seven years. There's just no way to
Speaker 4: beat them at their own game. So there has things
Speaker 4: have to go our way a little bit. But walking
Speaker 4: if we do the off the bus off the bus test,
Speaker 4: there's a tight end at TC who barely just used
Speaker 4: who six seven forty that's during my time there.
Speaker 1: That just wasn't real. There's two tackles who were seeing
Speaker 1: you're a Mountain West athlete. To be clear, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: am honest now that if I were to try to
Speaker 1: get rided t taking that, I'm like, I'm insulting him. No, No,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, no, But it's just it's not
Speaker 1: that long about it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna kick dan'a ask later it's okay, yeah, registered,
Speaker 4: I haven't coming backhanded com registered registered, No, like I
Speaker 4: probably wouldn't get recruited there. Now I'm a shorter tackle,
Speaker 4: but the athletes they have now, they're big. And I talked,
Speaker 4: I spoke to this about this antiquated notion that TCU's
Speaker 4: too small. Fifteen years ago we were too small. That's
Speaker 4: just not the case anymore. So that was part of
Speaker 4: the Michigan lead up. And so yeah, we stole couple
Speaker 4: possessions and Max played okay. He had two picks that
Speaker 4: bounced off receiver's hand yep, and then he threw for
Speaker 4: a little under fifty percent.
Speaker 1: He can't do that. Those receivers can drop those balls.
Speaker 1: And so it's there.
Speaker 4: I believe it's there, and I also believe George is
Speaker 4: not going to underestimate us and it's going to be
Speaker 4: a dogfight. So I don't the house money thing. You know,
Speaker 4: it's I know how hard it is to win anything,
Speaker 4: any championship. So acting like we're just gonna go on
Speaker 4: this run and maybe get back here, there's too much luck,
Speaker 4: there's too much craziness that could happen to assume that
Speaker 4: that no matter how good you recruit, that this could
Speaker 4: happen again, So why not, you know, shoot your shot now.
Speaker 2: It does feel like they're on a hell of a
Speaker 2: run at the craps table, though, and that makes them
Speaker 2: tricky to bet against. Yeah, you could bet Georgia, and
Speaker 2: both Dan and I picked Georgia.
Speaker 1: You speak for yourself, Tied Marshall and Irene Marshall, and
Speaker 1: I believe time you're.
Speaker 4: Saying we're the degenerat in the corner with a cigarette
Speaker 4: and yeah, yeah empty vodka SODA's just on a heater
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't like I could pick Georgia, and
Speaker 2: I understand all the reasons why it makes sense. I
Speaker 2: don't feel good about it. Yeah, I don't feel good
Speaker 2: about it. I don't want them. I want to see
Speaker 2: you to win, but I don't feel good about it
Speaker 2: because of the run that TCU has been on. And
Speaker 2: you know that feeling of not having anything to lose
Speaker 2: can be really dangerous.
Speaker 4: And I'm I'm like, I couldn't gamble, so I'm new
Speaker 4: to it. But just the idea and that the machinations
Speaker 4: thirteen points is a lot lot, It's a big number.
Speaker 1: It's a big number.
Speaker 2: Of a quick strike offense that you know, it's being
Speaker 2: in weird situations all year.
Speaker 1: It's twelve now. By the way, has there ever been
Speaker 1: in a hypothetical world in which Georgia wins the National Championship?
Speaker 1: Will there ever be a happier group of fans to lose?
Speaker 1: Was in the National Championship? Not that tc was happy
Speaker 1: just to be here, but just like whatever, who we're running,
Speaker 1: we're shriaking down the street and our pants are on
Speaker 1: exact continue.
Speaker 2: So here here is the matchup that we brought you
Speaker 2: up here, beyond of course the game preview when you're
Speaker 2: insight into TCU, But the matchup we've got here is
Speaker 2: between TCU and this incredible run and what otherwise would
Speaker 2: be the biggest story in college football, the notion that
Speaker 2: both USC and UCLA and LA as a whole is
Speaker 2: now a big ten town. Dan, I kind of feel
Speaker 2: like that's the bigger thing that we should I mean.
Speaker 1: It's disrespect towards Santa Monica City College, but continue, I just.
Speaker 2: Kind of feel like that's a bigger, more important thing. Sure,
Speaker 2: we talked more about and that everybody got a little
Speaker 2: bit more into the.
Speaker 1: Well and the idea of realignment also affects TCU with
Speaker 1: Texas and Oklahoma leaving, because TCU again Big twelve Championship adjacent.
Speaker 1: TCU is in a position to go to the playoff
Speaker 1: probably more often if Oklahoma is fully weaponized, that's certainly
Speaker 1: a roadblock. And with you know, all due respect to Cincinnati, UCF,
Speaker 1: BYU and Houston, like, the road is a lot better
Speaker 1: for TCU right now with Oklahoma leaving, should they get
Speaker 1: back to where they've been? So I think it's USC
Speaker 1: and UCLA just because it sort of changes the trajectory
Speaker 1: of how we look at the sport that it's become
Speaker 1: like a big ten sec thing at this point. But man,
Speaker 1: you USC fans and UCLA fans going to State College,
Speaker 1: do you want to like speak specifically about how hard
Speaker 1: it is not just to get there, but to exist there.
Speaker 2: There is not NonStop service from lax No to State College.
Speaker 1: No, there is tricky. Is there a slider word than remote?
Speaker 2: It's a long van ride from Pittsburgh or Philly for
Speaker 2: most fans. Right you fly into University Park, but most
Speaker 2: of the land can't. It's a tough place to get
Speaker 2: to you Otherwise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, USC and UCLA firebombing a conference to chase money.
Speaker 1: All due respect, I have a lot of USC friends
Speaker 1: UCLA fan friend one. I think there's not that many
Speaker 1: of them. If you've ever seen there, there is, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are a couple of examples of stadiums
Speaker 1: that really pop in empty ways. The Rose Bowl is
Speaker 1: special because we all love the Rose Bowl, right, we
Speaker 1: love the game itself. But there's something about, like, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure two thirds of the stadium are empty, two
Speaker 1: thirds of the seats are empty for a UCLA game,
Speaker 1: and the big twelve is we want you. And so
Speaker 1: that's funny to me that there is you know, maybe
Speaker 1: Iowa fans will travel, maybe Minnesota fans will travel, but
Speaker 1: it's still gonna be tricky. There's there's something about an
Speaker 1: empty Rose Bowl that I don't know. It just feels
Speaker 1: like home being from here.
Speaker 2: Does anybody object to us putting USC and UCLA through Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: other than you Marshall of course.
Speaker 1: By the way, there was something I don't know a
Speaker 1: few days ago after TCU beat Michigan, somebody from the
Speaker 1: TCU Athletic department or something like radios they said something like,
Speaker 1: you know, all these people are acting surprised about TCU,
Speaker 1: But we knew the whole time. Bullshit, you guys needed.
Speaker 1: You guys needed to sprint out in Unison to kick
Speaker 1: a field goal against Baylor to get here.
Speaker 2: We knew the whole time.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm positive that that's called a bazooka kick, and
Speaker 4: we practiced every Thursday.
Speaker 1: I'm positive you watch the end of that game with
Speaker 1: your arms crossed like, nope, nope, nope, not even close.
Speaker 1: I was too busy. I was down the sideline trolling
Speaker 1: the Baylor student section. Well that's fun, that's fun. That's
Speaker 1: what you're legally supposed to be doing as a TCU person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, before we let you go, do you have a
Speaker 2: prediction while you're up here?
Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, I mean I've been doing the show and
Speaker 4: so I'm like, I've got my Homer shirt on all
Speaker 4: the time, but I truly believe it. With a couple
Speaker 4: you know, bounces our way like we're in the game,
Speaker 4: but it feels like like a one score Georgia win.
Speaker 4: But I think there's a chance, like late in the
Speaker 4: fourth quarter, there's a game turning drive for TACU or
Speaker 4: Georgia that will either have to teach you there to
Speaker 4: win or will kind of they'll pull away, but I
Speaker 4: mean it's gonna be a closer game. It'll be very
Speaker 4: well contested.
Speaker 2: Georgia could cover and it could still be hell of
Speaker 2: a game.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah. So any given Monday nights specifically built for
Speaker 1: TV audiences, anything could happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, put your hands together for Marshall.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. Am I free? You're free?
Speaker 2: Okay, go be our biggest fan. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Do you want to keep it going with large humans
Speaker 1: in this chair? We can. That's not confidence.
Speaker 2: Let's do it all right? Another guest.
Speaker 1: We have another guest, another large human. Ladies and gentlemen
Speaker 1: from the Gojo Show. You've seen him on ESPN, You've
Speaker 1: seen him on he might be on Twitter twenty four
Speaker 1: hours a day, seven days of Mike Gullig Junior.
Speaker 2: I just want to say thank you for not reading
Speaker 2: my football resume after Marshalls there is.
Speaker 1: You have a hell of a Wikipedia page. By the way,
Speaker 1: he is the only professional, semi professional football player. You
Speaker 1: played in Brooklyn, New York professionally.
Speaker 3: Yes, the I played in the Brooklyn Cyclones Minor League
Speaker 3: baseball park on Cony Island. Huh, I rode a legit
Speaker 3: yellow school bus to professional football practice. But I did
Speaker 3: make the All Star team in the FXFL and didn't
Speaker 3: get paid for the last three weeks.
Speaker 1: Is that true? Yes, that.
Speaker 3: At some point it's not thirty for thirty worthy at all.
Speaker 3: But someone will do like a small YouTube short on
Speaker 3: what happened to that fall? Uh huh, where I ate
Speaker 3: at the same Spanish restaurant, worked out at the same
Speaker 3: La Fitness and went bowling three nights a week, living
Speaker 3: in a holiday and Express on Staten Island for three months.
Speaker 3: He just brought the room down. Yeah, no, it was
Speaker 3: dark times, man, it was dark times anyway. Happy to
Speaker 3: be here.
Speaker 2: On the Brass tax Mic. We've got a compelling matchup
Speaker 2: here between a number nine seed otherwise known as Dabosweeney
Speaker 2: slowly melting and the number one overall seed, which we're
Speaker 2: referring to as transfer portal fucking chaos, well language, well
Speaker 2: chaos chaos. We're actually a Catholic institute, yea.
Speaker 1: We care about the God stuff, so.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows about the dabble thing. We just talked about that,
Speaker 2: the God the nil thing. We could talk about that quote, yeah,
Speaker 2: in due time, but I'm curious from your perspective as
Speaker 2: a former college athlete, how you feel about the transfer
Speaker 2: portal chaos, because I'm sure you've seen the numbers. Over
Speaker 2: a thousand people entered their name into the transfer portal.
Speaker 2: Some have pulled their names out, some have pulled their
Speaker 2: names out and then put them back in it at
Speaker 2: all careful. We just got done with the milk and stuff.
Speaker 2: I keep thinking of the old ESPN Y two K
Speaker 2: commercial where they countdown three two to one, you hear
Speaker 2: the alarms call freedom. Charlie Steiner's doing braveheart. Yes he's
Speaker 2: playing for Tulsa now, Charlie Steiner. Congratulations. Yeah, So where
Speaker 2: are you at with the transfer portal and all this
Speaker 2: chaos we've seen well, and especially what.
Speaker 3: You guys brought up is its outsize impact on the
Speaker 3: world of college football.
Speaker 2: We just got through, I believe the last of the.
Speaker 3: Major transfer portal quarterback Dominos to follow with Brendan Armstrong
Speaker 3: following his former offensive coordinator Brandon and I two NC State.
Speaker 3: But we saw the impact it had on USC this year.
Speaker 3: We saw the impact that it's had on Old miss
Speaker 3: and Slane Kiffin got there. It's got tangible impact that
Speaker 3: we've seen almost immediately on the field for some big programs,
Speaker 3: and it's the easiest sports tall gas back subject on earth.
Speaker 2: You can get Stephen A. Smith talking about that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if Steven A. Smith is talking about college football, that
Speaker 2: tends to mean whatever.
Speaker 1: The subject is a.
Speaker 2: Pretty big deal. Yeah, I mean this. The other interesting
Speaker 2: thing about this matchup is that Dabos Sweeney versus the
Speaker 2: transfer portal is also a real life gage. It's ongoing,
Speaker 2: right Simpson, fans all just slowly dying, as you said, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's true.
Speaker 1: Continue to say.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't seem like Dabo's got a handle on
Speaker 2: that situation.
Speaker 1: No, not at all. Here here's my question for Mike though,
Speaker 1: with the transfer portal stuff, you were you were pretty
Speaker 1: locked in on Notre Dame obviously a legacy and you
Speaker 1: love Look you're wearing a Notre Dame little Is that
Speaker 1: a jacket or is that it's a patch? No, it's
Speaker 1: just a jacket.
Speaker 2: It's a jacket.
Speaker 1: It's just a jacket. Yeah, I'm learning things as we go.
Speaker 1: This would not you would have not entertained the idea
Speaker 1: I presume of leaving Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: I thought briefly about it. Okay, to my last year
Speaker 3: just because I hadn't played a bunch. But it was
Speaker 3: a lot harder decision. I was, obviously, you know, a
Speaker 3: legacy player there all that good stuff, so would have
Speaker 3: been a lot harder than it seems to be now,
Speaker 3: which that part is wild to me, and I'm sure
Speaker 3: Marshall can speak to this too. The thought of uprooting
Speaker 3: everything that you've done as frequently as some players have
Speaker 3: seems incredibly off putting, Like they do have to think
Speaker 3: about it a lot more like a business that we
Speaker 3: ever did.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, so when you look at this, does it
Speaker 1: like Tie is all in on the transfer portal? Tie
Speaker 1: loves I mean, look, Tie is a professional talker now,
Speaker 1: so it gives us fodder all year long, like okay,
Speaker 1: this quarterback's going here, or this new coach just brought
Speaker 1: in forty new players or whatever from the portal lane.
Speaker 1: Kiffin's the portal king. Do you enjoy it in that
Speaker 1: way or you're like that's kind of a bummer, because
Speaker 1: there is something nice about like you going somewhere with
Speaker 1: four years and you're making all these like lifelong friends.
Speaker 1: What are you? Are you mixed on it? Do you
Speaker 1: understand it? But does it you wear you with it,
Speaker 1: so I.
Speaker 3: Don't get as inundated with it overall, necessarily because trying
Speaker 3: to keep tack of each and everyone that jumps into
Speaker 3: the portal is an impossible task. I'm like, skipped a labor,
Speaker 3: Show me the baby, tell me where the good guy's
Speaker 3: end up, and we'll be good with all that. I'm
Speaker 3: a fan of it because it allows more teams to
Speaker 3: get better quick yeah, which I think as a college
Speaker 3: football fan helps in an era we're about to expand
Speaker 3: the playoff. And I think it also gives players recourse
Speaker 3: against the system that's traditionally landlocked them. Where now you've
Speaker 3: got guys that, if their coach decides to up and
Speaker 3: leave after the first signing day, have the ability to
Speaker 3: get out if the bill of goods they were sold
Speaker 3: isn't the one that they get when they get on campus. Like,
Speaker 3: coaches have to tell you the truth now, they didn't
Speaker 3: always have to tell you the truth before in those
Speaker 3: recruiting meetings because you were, you know whatever, a star prospect.
Speaker 3: They could make you feel all the things you wanted
Speaker 3: to feel, and then you got on campus and you
Speaker 3: were theirs, and it was really hard to get out
Speaker 3: of that and so I like, in a sport where
Speaker 3: the players do not yet have a union, that they've
Speaker 3: got some way to impact their future in a four
Speaker 3: or five year window.
Speaker 1: There's also the interesting dynamic of recruiting your current players
Speaker 1: like you probably wouldn't have hated for your offensive line
Speaker 1: coach in meetings like hey, by the way, Mike, you
Speaker 1: mean a ton to us and we love having You're like, hey, thanks.
Speaker 3: It's it's created such an interesting dynamic where, yes, it
Speaker 3: feels like now they've still got to be nice to you.
Speaker 3: You get on this, so maybe it eliminates you getting
Speaker 3: five am punishment workouts for two weeks straights after a
Speaker 3: very lame, minor intoxication.
Speaker 1: That is off my record now.
Speaker 5: Hypothetically he could be talking about anybody not gonna point
Speaker 5: any old last year, but no, I think I had
Speaker 5: an interesting conversation last year doing a North Carolina game
Speaker 5: with Mac Brown, And obviously anyone who's ever lost a
Speaker 5: game in North.
Speaker 3: Carolina is in a very long conversation with Mac Brown
Speaker 3: and midfield, way longer than I want to. But it
Speaker 3: was interesting hearing him talk about that, because I think
Speaker 3: it changes the way some of these coaches have to
Speaker 3: operate if they're smart, which is word of mouth has
Speaker 3: always been the best recruiting device. Players talk now more
Speaker 3: than ever. And he said, if a guy doesn't think
Speaker 3: the best opportunity for him is here, we want to
Speaker 3: help get him to where he thinks that that was
Speaker 3: the promise we made him recruiting. And listen, he's talking
Speaker 3: to the media. He's selling us the right stuff. But
Speaker 3: that's the point is if that's the the let's say,
Speaker 3: perception of you that's out there, and then that impacts players,
Speaker 3: and you show that on a day to day basis,
Speaker 3: players are gonna buy what you're selling. And that, to
Speaker 3: me is the biggest thing. If you're truthful in the
Speaker 3: way you build your program, you're not gonna have to
Speaker 3: do as much recruiting.
Speaker 1: Right by the way, just as an aside, Mac Brown,
Speaker 1: an all time elite first name.
Speaker 2: Remember, remembers everybody's name, so you.
Speaker 1: Got like the doc Rivers in the NBA. But he
Speaker 1: does do something where like a media member will ask
Speaker 1: him a question, He'll say like, great question, Derek, and
Speaker 1: Derek will say that was a great questions Mac.
Speaker 2: It's why if these coaches ever have a chance go
Speaker 2: do the media thing. For a year. Yeah, because you'll
Speaker 2: learn how easy it is to get us.
Speaker 1: Such marks. Yeah, it's unbelievable. We don't take much.
Speaker 2: Just the Cross has done at Hollister. He can head
Speaker 2: right for the boost somewhere. So I think we got
Speaker 2: to put the portal through. I think portal through. I
Speaker 2: love the Dabbos, slowly melting love it one the name,
Speaker 2: image and likeness of God. That's right.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss that.
Speaker 2: I have quote. We built this program on nil. We
Speaker 2: really did. Sweeney said, it's probably different than what you're thinking. Though.
Speaker 2: We built this programm in God's name, image and likeness.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: It's perfect. It's perfect. Here's what.
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence does. Look like the white God they put
Speaker 2: up in my cap at high school.
Speaker 1: So let that sink in. Okay, there's something about Dabbo
Speaker 1: where he's it seems like he's gonna coach Clemson forever, right,
Speaker 1: that's his thing. He's gonna be the the Clemson whatever.
Speaker 1: But at some point he's going to retire and I
Speaker 1: don't know, like he'll have speaking circuit. The only other
Speaker 1: thing that I could think about for Dabbo after he
Speaker 1: leaves is because of the way he speaks the name,
Speaker 1: image and likeness of God. That's how we There is
Speaker 1: going to be something like I'm Dabo Sweeney and I
Speaker 1: know a little bit about gold, which is why I'm
Speaker 1: here to tell you a little bit about Gold.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: There is gonna be like you'll be watching something with
Speaker 1: an elder relative and Dabbo will appear on your screen
Speaker 1: like as the next like I don't know who's doing now,
Speaker 1: Tom Selleck, Like Dabo is going to fit in so
Speaker 1: smoothly in that world.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited for. And I guess it's not gonna
Speaker 3: be my grandparents anymore. This will be like my dad
Speaker 3: or I guess not my dad maybe specifically because he
Speaker 3: would know this, but somebody's dad who becomes a grandpa
Speaker 3: gonna be like, did you know this nice gold Man.
Speaker 1: Used to coach that football team? Who knew Carolinas. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be such an easy transition and we are all
Speaker 1: going to see it coming now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, put your hands together. From Mike Gouling Junior, thank you, sir.
Speaker 1: Wait before you go, Before you go, do you want
Speaker 1: to place any of the Big ten West coaches in
Speaker 1: a sad mall store? Okay, so I guess Luke Fickle
Speaker 1: doesn't count. We're gonna have to go Paul Christ because
Speaker 1: he was the one who was the head coach for
Speaker 1: a time this year. You've got Brett Bielima, You've got
Speaker 1: Kirk Farens. Who am I missing? From the Big ten West.
Speaker 1: You've got Pat Fitzgerald, Oh and PJ Flack. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Brett Bielima was recently fire from the Cinnabon as the
Speaker 3: night manager because he was stealing them.
Speaker 1: Low hanging but accurate. Yeah, I am what I am? Yep,
Speaker 1: thank you very much, My.
Speaker 2: Dog dinner, our Cinderella from round one the Big ten
Speaker 2: West sad Mall against a very strong number four seed.
Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher's buyout, Yes, can afford the whole damn mall.
Speaker 2: Eighty five million is the buyout.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: For those playing along at home, this is the kind
Speaker 2: of topic that you draft for a dynasty fantasy league. Yes,
Speaker 2: of course, because he signed the contract five years ago.
Speaker 2: He re upped the contract two years ago now twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one, and we're still talking about it. It was
Speaker 2: the contract that changed college football coaching forever. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: I remember it was ten year, seventy five million dollars
Speaker 2: ten years what it was a big talking point for us.
Speaker 2: Now it's more of a talking point now, but not
Speaker 2: for the reasons we thought when you signed the contract.
Speaker 2: It could be because A M did not score thirty
Speaker 2: points against Power five opponent until the last week of
Speaker 2: the season.
Speaker 1: That'll happen. That'll happen, Yeah, last week of the season. Dan, Yes,
Speaker 1: so eighty five million dollars is a lot of money.
Speaker 1: But also shout out to the guy for discovering the
Speaker 1: greatest retirement plan in the sports Texas A and M's
Speaker 1: coaching job. There's nothing better. There's nothing like. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine the coaches that have been on the line with
Speaker 1: their agents to say, look at some points, just get
Speaker 1: me in there right like, you know, when this is
Speaker 1: all said and done, Lincoln Riley is gonna be the
Speaker 1: head coach in Texas A and M. I'm gonna walk you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk you through the process. Lincoln Riley's gonna
Speaker 1: take an NFL job in twenty twenty four. It's gonna
Speaker 1: go pretty well and then poorly, and then he's gonna
Speaker 1: end up in College Station Texas. It's just a quick
Speaker 1: little spoiler alert for the Lincoln Riley trajectory here with
Speaker 1: me a very wealthy man.
Speaker 2: The Jimbo buy out. I think I'm just sort of
Speaker 2: transfixed at how much we talked about it this year.
Speaker 2: We expect to, I think is what made it so
Speaker 2: notable in our world. The big ten West Sad Maldough
Speaker 2: is it's teaming with coaches with bad programs. I mean,
Speaker 2: we didn't even talk about Kirk ference. No, let's take
Speaker 2: a secon. Let's take a knee to talk about Kirk Ferencene,
Speaker 2: late stage, Kirk Farnce at this point, so we talk
Speaker 2: about half teams on the show all the time. By
Speaker 2: the numbers that we look at, one hundred and twentieth
Speaker 2: an offense, Well yeah, first, first, in defense, I cannot
Speaker 2: remember a disparity that large since we've been doing the show.
Speaker 2: Maybe somebody else can. But one twenty to one is
Speaker 2: a pretty big deal in a vacuum, that's not that
Speaker 2: big of a story. But the fact that i was
Speaker 2: been there before, and the fact that Iowa was sought
Speaker 2: to try and solve the problem by saying, hey, Brian,
Speaker 2: you know something about electrical work, don't you, right, can
Speaker 2: you give us a shot? Like it costs money to
Speaker 2: do a fixer upper of this magnitude.
Speaker 1: It's it's unimaginable how bad Iowa's offense got. They were
Speaker 1: never great on offense. The thing that I specifically love
Speaker 1: is that there is an obvious conflict of interest to
Speaker 1: the point where Brian Ferrence doesn't report to his father,
Speaker 1: the head coach, and that it's other people deciding his
Speaker 1: job performance. It was so so bad to watch Iowa.
Speaker 1: But again, I treasure it. I treasure the Big Ten West.
Speaker 1: I treasure how bad it got. I treasure the fact
Speaker 1: that their best offensive coordinator was their defensive coordinator and
Speaker 1: Phil Parker, that's pretty great. This was Iowa. Iowa's incompetence
Speaker 1: was so creative and novel. I celebrate it. It was
Speaker 1: so incompetent that it was the best and they made
Speaker 1: it work. They well to an extent. Sure, they made
Speaker 1: it too and won a bowl game. That's true. They
Speaker 1: shut out a very said Kentucky team.
Speaker 2: Speaking of malls. Right, so I still feel like, you know,
Speaker 2: despite the fact that the Big Ten West sad mall
Speaker 2: is a fun thing to say.
Speaker 1: Well, do you think here's the question, do you think
Speaker 1: it's more difficult to be truly terrible at Iowa on
Speaker 1: offense given that defense, or is it more difficult to
Speaker 1: screw up on the level of Texas A and M
Speaker 1: with the talent of the Aggies with I mean, the
Speaker 1: sec Wes wasn't incredible this year.
Speaker 2: What do you think Kirk Farrens would do with the
Speaker 2: roster in college station? Oh my god, they would all
Speaker 2: be transferring. Just if they switch spots, right, what would happen?
Speaker 2: Punts be a lot of punting. No, nothing terribly different. No,
Speaker 2: it's it's just he's much more expensive Jimbo. He's much
Speaker 2: more expensive Jimbo. Fisher's buiout goes through I think, and
Speaker 2: so this is where the twelve seeds run.
Speaker 1: I also like that you have to pay attention to
Speaker 1: oil futures to gauge whether or not it's realistic to
Speaker 1: get rid like, there are move there are things afoot
Speaker 1: that have to happen. Okay, we're gonna have to explain
Speaker 1: the snaps to the at home audio audience.
Speaker 2: I currently fakes up a little bit so that we
Speaker 2: can pick it up our two versus seven matchup. We
Speaker 2: already talked about the Ohio State Michigan freakouts. Tough matchup
Speaker 2: here going up against Nil Madness. Yes, you and I
Speaker 2: Nil boom boo. We You and I talked about the possibility,
Speaker 2: the weirdest possible ways that NIL could be applied, and
Speaker 2: I believe at the coffee shop before this, our conclusion
Speaker 2: was JT. Daniels accepting money from the Qataris to play
Speaker 2: in an off shoot league. So I believe that was
Speaker 2: what we came up with.
Speaker 1: Here is my pitch. Here's my pitch, maybe a soft pitch.
Speaker 1: In the shadow of Mike Goelick junior're talking about not
Speaker 1: getting paid to play in the I think it's the
Speaker 1: fx FL. Okay, it's almost the XFL. It's the FXFL
Speaker 1: that was their commercial on the side of a bus.
Speaker 1: I think it is worthwhile in that NBA players when
Speaker 1: it's not working out for them in the NBA, they
Speaker 1: can retire, they can coach, they can go sit and
Speaker 1: be the fourteenth man and be that. Like Pseudo. I
Speaker 1: don't know how familiar are with the NBAB Like Eudonnas.
Speaker 1: Haslam has been on the Miami Heat and hasn't played
Speaker 1: meaningful minutes since like two thousand and six.
Speaker 2: And that's great locker room guy. He's a guy. He's
Speaker 2: a glue guy.
Speaker 1: He's a culture guy, sure, But a lot of these
Speaker 1: guys who still have some life in their legs in
Speaker 1: the NBA, they'll go to China, right, and they'll cash
Speaker 1: in like Dwight Howard's averaging forty seven points for the
Speaker 1: Beijing Ducks. All I'm saying is I want an nil
Speaker 1: option from some possibly problematic state. But I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: I'm not mocking problematic states, they are problematic. But what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I want guys who just can't find
Speaker 1: that home right, that JT. Daniels, that whoever that has
Speaker 1: transferred a couple of times down on their luck. I
Speaker 1: want them to go be a god in the Philippines.
Speaker 1: That's all I want. Like I want, I want to
Speaker 1: hear about somebody I've forgotten about, like in four years.
Speaker 1: I want to hear about Dju making one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty million dollars in Sri Lanka. That's all I want
Speaker 1: for these guys that if look, it's not gonna work
Speaker 1: out as a college football player stateside, but for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: it's really worked out for them in Taipei.
Speaker 2: I sat jaw a gape earlier when we looked up
Speaker 2: some of these Chinese basketball stats. Oh yeah, it's in
Speaker 2: Kyler Hansbro two years ago. Yeah, it's like thirty eight
Speaker 2: years old. At this point was averaging thirty three points.
Speaker 1: Again, yes, so so this has gone off the rails.
Speaker 1: But there is something kind of fun about nil because
Speaker 1: we don't know anything, right, We don't know the accurate numbers.
Speaker 1: We hear about quarterbacks, we hear about you know, schools
Speaker 1: like Tennessee or now recently you see like congratulations, yeah exactly,
Speaker 1: and you hear about like Miami and Oregon. Right, they've
Speaker 1: got this like one big booster. And the funny like
Speaker 1: line behind the scenes with Oregon is like, we gotta
Speaker 1: win before Phil goes. We gotta he's eighty four, we
Speaker 1: gotta make this work. And he's just throwing money into
Speaker 1: the fire. There is something great about that that, you know,
Speaker 1: it's the what the life line, life block whatever? John
Speaker 1: Ruiz at Miami, like, we shouldn't know these guys's names.
Speaker 1: But now it's sort of in the light a little bit,
Speaker 1: and they're paying players what their market, the market deems
Speaker 1: them to be worth. There's something wonderful and mysterious about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now all the under the table stuff is above
Speaker 2: the table.
Speaker 1: Some of it is, yeah, and it's.
Speaker 2: It's like I can only imagine the first big party
Speaker 2: after they got rid of prohibition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and nobody knows what to do.
Speaker 2: Everybody's just like, what do.
Speaker 1: What do I do with this?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 1: We are true And what happens now is you'll hear
Speaker 1: recruits saying, well, I could have gotten more to go
Speaker 1: to this school, but I am a man of integrity
Speaker 1: and I'm going to Alabama or whatever for less money.
Speaker 1: It's great, it's wonderful. It's it's a new element to things.
Speaker 1: And we had that like that period of time where
Speaker 1: like not recruits, but active players are doing commercials and
Speaker 1: they still are, like you have the Nebraska dB Duck,
Speaker 1: Coldest Crawford wonderful, the air conditioning commercial. Excuse me, but
Speaker 1: now this charade is kind of fading into the background
Speaker 1: a little bit and it's just guys getting paid, which
Speaker 1: I'm great with. I love.
Speaker 2: So NIL clearly has to go through it has to
Speaker 2: go through issues, I think. So it's been such a
Speaker 2: such a big story. We have to put it in
Speaker 2: that we're in favor of it, you're in favor of it.
Speaker 2: That's over what Ohio State over Ohio State and Michigan
Speaker 2: freak outs. The one thing I did want to bring
Speaker 2: up on that on that note, and it really doesn't
Speaker 2: fit in neatly to any of the things that we're
Speaker 2: talking about here. I just wanted to read this quote
Speaker 2: from Jim Harbaugh quote as I stayed in in December.
Speaker 2: While no one knows what the future holds, I expect
Speaker 2: that I will be enthusiastically coaching at Michigan in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three. Who am I? I expect I will be
Speaker 2: enthusiastically married It Like, yeah, what kind of a quote
Speaker 2: is that you're saying?
Speaker 1: Jim harmlas Jim Harbaugh's firm where it needs to be updated?
Speaker 1: Maybe like he's a chat what is the app? He's
Speaker 1: a chat GPT coach.
Speaker 2: Here's a little bit of so.
Speaker 1: That is what is it?
Speaker 2: An AI app?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have to explain these jokes sometimes.
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh is I joked a long time ago that
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh is what happens when you teach human emotion
Speaker 2: to a robot. Yeah, and I stand by that he's
Speaker 2: a great coach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that this is what you got? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't recall those Hamburgers. Yeah, isn't that what he's in
Speaker 1: trouble for? It does not compute, Nil goes through.
Speaker 2: Hey. That brings us to the semi final. All right
Speaker 2: here it is the final four, Final four straight chalk
Speaker 2: in a sense, had some early round upsets, but just
Speaker 2: like the real March badness, we get down to the
Speaker 2: top four, we've got Jimbo Fisher's buyout against transfer portal chaos.
Speaker 1: Dan, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: This is a big one.
Speaker 1: This is a big one. Well again, these are two
Speaker 1: that are linked inextricably because if you followed what Texas
Speaker 1: A and M players are doing, getting the hell out right.
Speaker 1: So I think it's probably portal chaos because it affects
Speaker 1: more teams and it's something that looms over the sport,
Speaker 1: largely in a positive way. But you never know who
Speaker 1: is coming, who is going whatever. We know Jimbo Fish
Speaker 1: is gonna leave Texas A and M. We don't know
Speaker 1: if it's this year. We know it's probably gonna happen
Speaker 1: in the next couple of years. I think Bobby Patrino
Speaker 1: is a nice agent of chaos to speed things up.
Speaker 1: Nice catalyst if you wanted to speed up the process
Speaker 1: and perhaps use the term for cause, maybe bringing Bobby
Speaker 1: Patrino to do some dirty work. Am I am? I
Speaker 1: am I implying that Bobby Patrino is a double agents.
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be fair. Yes, I am. I'm absolutely implying
Speaker 1: Bobby Patrino has been hired for a very specific reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the sheer magnitude of the portal this season,
Speaker 2: the fact that we had so many names going in,
Speaker 2: and the fact that you know, granted we'll talk about
Speaker 2: Nil here. I terily by all the tampering that we
Speaker 2: know happened that nobody talks about, and how it's inextricably
Speaker 2: linked to Nil. And it's like there is definitely a
Speaker 2: wild West quality to the portal. And what I find
Speaker 2: amusing about it is that it's always the coaches that
Speaker 2: are losing, the transfers that try to take the mortal
Speaker 2: high ground. Pat ar Doozy, Oh my god, Pat's the
Speaker 2: best patent Ardozy, as I've said before, doesn't ky, He
Speaker 2: doesn't give any fs. I won't say the word right
Speaker 2: at this point, Pat Nardoozy is like ready to speak
Speaker 2: on any and everybody who wants to hear it.
Speaker 1: I would pay five dollars a month for patn Ardozy substack.
Speaker 1: I would now sign me up. I'd probably pay twelve
Speaker 1: dollars to twenty dollars a month. If Patton Ardozy was like,
Speaker 1: here is all of the dirty laundry, I'm totally in
Speaker 1: for that substack tie. Yeah, you're absolutely right though.
Speaker 2: It's got to be the portal. Right, we got to
Speaker 2: put the number one overall seed through. I'm putting the
Speaker 2: portal through over jim What do you guys think, would
Speaker 2: you go, Jimbo? Would you go portal?
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, it's portal portal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think life is too grand out here to
Speaker 1: be concerned with Jimbo Fisher.
Speaker 2: All right. That brings us to nil madness, which we
Speaker 2: just talked about versus something that on our slides before
Speaker 2: we had labeled as us see you later. And the
Speaker 2: reason we left UCLA off again is because you said,
Speaker 2: no one gives a shit.
Speaker 1: It's real tough. It's real tough to find UCLA people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all, Okay, we have we have the twos, all right,
Speaker 1: nobody can see them, all right, So we've got three
Speaker 1: three U c l A people here.
Speaker 2: Here is why I think we need to pick nil. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because USC and u c l A will remain profitable
Speaker 2: for whatever conference they go into next. Right, we'll pay
Speaker 2: dividends well into the future. There will come a point
Speaker 2: in time where folks look at NIL and they say,
Speaker 2: we paid what for a freshman quarterback? The r O
Speaker 2: I will eventually catch up to the people paying this money.
Speaker 2: I'm here for that story.
Speaker 1: Do you do you remember that people with a ton
Speaker 1: of money just love spending money, and they spend it
Speaker 1: on all sorts of crazy things. I think they're underestimating
Speaker 1: that a little bit. Okay, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So are you thinking maybe it's your Southern California bias showing.
Speaker 1: I don't know, right.
Speaker 2: Are you thinking maybe USC and UCLA is probably the bigger,
Speaker 2: the bigger, so more impactful story from this college football
Speaker 2: seas maybe the one true champion.
Speaker 1: As representatives of realignment. Yes, I don't think USC and
Speaker 1: UCLA resonate. Perhaps, I mean USC resonates right, they have
Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy winner. It's a bigger program. Whatever. I'll
Speaker 1: due respect to UCLA. I grew up at UCLA fan
Speaker 1: down here. I know what it's like to have nobody
Speaker 1: recognize who you are and your team. I miss Kate
Speaker 1: McNown There is something about the shifting wins of the
Speaker 1: sport that USC and UCLA represent, and you all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you have Big twelve and Pac twelve people
Speaker 1: yelling at each other online over TV ratings.
Speaker 2: It's awful. It's truly bad.
Speaker 1: And so because that is permeated the sport and Texas
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma leaving the sport, and it is, by the way,
Speaker 1: as an aside, it will be very fun for Oklahoma
Speaker 1: to take on Lincoln Riley and Texas A and M
Speaker 1: in a few years.
Speaker 2: I am just.
Speaker 1: It's his destiny. Do you not understand this? I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's an off season story. I mean, realignment
Speaker 1: sort of comes and goes. I don't know how much
Speaker 1: it's actually going to change the college football experience because
Speaker 1: teams aren't going away. The thing it'll change if teams
Speaker 1: like Oregon State and Washington State become like Mountain West teams.
Speaker 1: That's a big change, and that's that's a worthwhile thing
Speaker 1: to talk about. But you're saying nil madness. I think
Speaker 1: Nil is going to have a bigger grip on this sport.
Speaker 2: But we're in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: We're in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: We're in Los Angeles. Yes, you know who are we
Speaker 2: going with?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 2: We go in US US.
Speaker 1: The USC guy of course, said we're going to sc UCLA. Wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, are you are you happy about being a
Speaker 1: Big ten program? Are you making any money off of it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So that's the thing, that's the tough thing. I will
Speaker 1: go USC UCLA just because it'll it'll. It's I was
Speaker 1: going ANIL, but people here said us the UCLA, And
Speaker 1: I'm a prisoner to these attractive people.
Speaker 2: So all right, the three is going through. Yes, let's
Speaker 2: decide our one true champion, Dan, Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 2: It is a big time matchup. It is USC UCLA
Speaker 2: leaving the PAC twelve, going east east to the Big ten. Yeah,
Speaker 2: versus transfer portal chaos. Yeah, this is a BigGAN. Who's
Speaker 2: favored and who do you got?
Speaker 1: I think I'm going portal chaos because there is something
Speaker 1: that there will be contracts drawn up with USC and
Speaker 1: UCLA leaving when they're going, What the travel looks like,
Speaker 1: what the schedules look like, what the TV listings look like.
Speaker 1: With the portal, there's nothing like you can leave once
Speaker 1: for free and then you're a grad tran you can
Speaker 1: leave again. But they're the tampering stuff, which I mean
Speaker 1: is wonderful, and I just hope we get more stories
Speaker 1: about tampering. I like I said, I'm going to subscribe
Speaker 1: to paton Ardoozy's eventual substack. I think that's what it is.
Speaker 1: I think the movement in the sport. I mean, these
Speaker 1: are both representative of movement in the sport, but I
Speaker 1: think it is the portal stuff that teams can get
Speaker 1: so much better so quickly, or teams can plug holes,
Speaker 1: or teams can become deeper that the usc UCLA thing,
Speaker 1: I think is more of a bummer. But maybe I'm
Speaker 1: a biased Oregon fan there Whereas I think the portal thing,
Speaker 1: I like chaos in this sport. I like the unpredictable,
Speaker 1: I like the novelty. So my bias says portal chaos.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The thing that's interesting about this, much like the much
Speaker 2: like the Dabo Sweeney versus the transfer portal that we
Speaker 2: had earlier on in this bracket is Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: outside of the game that we've got on Monday, outside
Speaker 2: of the playoff and some of the stories that came
Speaker 2: as a resultable season Yeah, you could argue that the
Speaker 2: USC and UCLA thing versus a transfer portal sort of
Speaker 2: defined the season even before it started. Sure, right, so
Speaker 2: this is a very representative matchup of where college football is.
Speaker 1: But how much did we talk about it as a collective?
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously was talked about here, but like during
Speaker 1: the season where there are a lot of conversations about
Speaker 1: like what the Big ten will be in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five or whatever.
Speaker 2: It was definitely the subject of many a comment that
Speaker 2: we got on YouTube that started with kids these days.
Speaker 1: Sure, absolutely, kids these days, yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, or the networks are running college.
Speaker 1: Football administrators these days.
Speaker 2: Every cynical online, extremely online college football fan had a
Speaker 2: little something to sink their teeth into with USC and
Speaker 2: UCLA leaving as well as the transfer portal in the chaos.
Speaker 1: I mean, we can just ask Mike what his winner is.
Speaker 2: Mike, could you pick.
Speaker 1: He's thinking he is a professional thinker and talking thinking.
Speaker 2: Or we can we can ask a more.
Speaker 1: Accomplished football player, Marshall, what do you think port portal?
Speaker 1: I think that's the champion, true champion.
Speaker 2: Give it up for the transfer portal, the one true
Speaker 2: champion of our college football season. Transfer portal chaos.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Heisman Trophy winner emerged from the
Speaker 1: transfer portal fight of right. Yeah yeah, So, I mean
Speaker 1: that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Transfer portal chaos. So amid a field of eleven other peers,
Speaker 2: some more equal than others. Transfer portal wins.
Speaker 1: I mean you've sent me borderline inappropriate messages about Sam Hartman.
Speaker 1: I got to watch bo Nick instead of whatever Mario
Speaker 1: Christobal was doing at Oregon. I'm a pretty big fan.
Speaker 1: You seem to be a pretty big fan. He's got
Speaker 1: you DM Devin Leary's high school coach. Randomly, That's not true.
Speaker 1: I just made that up. It was a one time thing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Tie is not a representative of the is al Borland
Speaker 2: Beard will fit in very nice.
Speaker 1: We love it.
Speaker 2: They love it.
Speaker 1: The Transfer Portal is our one true champion.
Speaker 2: One true champion. Play your hands together with the Transfer Portal.
Speaker 2: With that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,
Speaker 2: for myself, Tie Hill and brand thanks for coming on
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