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Speaker 1: No, it's incredible that we're here. I grew up point

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Speaker 2: Not a sponsor, could be, absolutely could be. So the

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Speaker 2: name of this show, the code name for this show

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Speaker 2: for people who listen, knows that we've been talking about

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Speaker 2: one true champion, Yes, for a couple of months now,

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Speaker 2: one true champ. What does that mean? Well, two things

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Speaker 2: We obviously know who the final two are. That's the first.

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Speaker 2: starting in twenty twenty four. Yep, you and I decided, ah,

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Speaker 2: now we're gonna do it our own way. Correct, We're

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Speaker 1: We also don't have that capability to put on a

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Speaker 1: tournament of teams. The budget's not there yet. But in

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Speaker 1: the way that we do fantasy things before the season,

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Speaker 1: and whittle it down to the one true champion things storyline, movement,

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Speaker 2: That is accurate? Okay, So we've got twelve college football narratives,

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Speaker 2: We're going to put them in brackets. We originally had slides,

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Speaker 2: but my dongle and you have the easy tie. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: We plan on naming the one true champion, Not Georgia,

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Speaker 2: not TCU, no, one true Saliverbal champion of the twenty

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Speaker 1: Why not do it in front of beautiful attractive people.

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Speaker 1: the Oklahoma message boards.

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Speaker 2: Well, between Miami and Oklahoma, fourteen losses between those two

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Speaker 2: Appreciative crowd here. I appreciate that. I'm sure I don't

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Speaker 2: know if they do. No. And then you mentioned Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: Yep, they caught the the European variant of Nebraska litis.

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Speaker 2: game following for those respective opponents, right, they lost, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I've got Northwestern Georgia, Southern Oklahoma, Indiana, Perdue, Illinois, and Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure you have a friend or you and

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Speaker 2: of well applause, who would vote for coach catastrophees in

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Speaker 2: this matchup, it's coach Catastrophes against a big ten West

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Speaker 2: sad mall coach catastrophees.

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Speaker 1: I think they like the sad mall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a sad mall crowd sad mall. Yeah. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I have let's see, I have Pat Fitzgerald at

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Speaker 1: I've got Jeff Brahm. He's running like a massage kiosk. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Broum won the Big ten West and he was like,

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Speaker 1: this is too sad.

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Speaker 1: Who else do we have in the Big ten West? Obviously,

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Speaker 1: There is something about this year's Alabama reminiscent of Sure,

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Speaker 1: The sixth seed is what.

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Speaker 2: Eleven seed is comically terrible backups, Yes, specifically quarterbacks, specifically quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma a problem with curious backups. Davis Bevel really against Tes,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Gundhy, but I'm sorry, this is a Drew Pine category.

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Speaker 2: I understand that when I heard built like me, I

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Speaker 2: I feel like we got to put TCU through. They're here,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to rely on the beautiful, attractive people

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Speaker 2: So we agree on the TCU for.

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Speaker 1: I'm pushing TCU through because it's I don't have anything

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Speaker 1: playing really, really good football. I have been there. They're okay.

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00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 1: I have a bit of baggage with guys like Max

438
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 1: dug and bow Nicks, where this has been the ultimate

439
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: redemption year. They don't care. They don't know my name,

440
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 1: they don't care about me. I was out on bone

441
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 1: Nicks from very early on. I was out on Max

442
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,360
Speaker 1: Duggan from ver earlier on, early on, and for them

443
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: this year, and there's been a number of guys like this,

444
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: but for Max Duggan backup quarterback TCU, the Frogs first

445
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 1: year head coach, who like halfway through the season was like, well,

446
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 1: where's cool hoodies? And then now they're here. I mean

447
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: that's just incredible to me. Yeah, seventy ten.

448
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I like this. This is it's it's very

449
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 2: it's a vibe, it's very menacing. Yeah. Ohio State and

450
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 2: Michigan fan freak out love this versus Kansas has a

451
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 2: pulse now question mark.

452
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the problem with Kansas here is it was

453
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 1: like a mid October thing and then it went a

454
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,959
Speaker 1: little bit sideways. Still a great story, unbelievable having two

455
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: good quarterbacks. It was a summer fling in a slide hold.

456
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 1: It was a summer fling. It was a half season story.

457
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 1: But it came to an end. I think they're in.

458
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: It's a terrific story. I always like it when these

459
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: completely down and out programs make a move right that

460
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: that charge towards mediocrity. But we've got like a very

461
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: quiet woo in the front row charge to mediocrity.

462
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 2: Whoo.

463
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: But there is something about the existential crises that Michigan

464
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: and Ohio State fans feel. Well, first of all, every week,

465
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 1: but at this point of the season. Ohio State's out

466
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: of it. They lost to Michigan. You got to fire

467
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: Ryan Day, you have to redo everything as a twelve

468
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 1: and one eleven in one program. Whatever. And then Michigan

469
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: getting to the point beating Ohio State again, and then well,

470
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 1: the NCAA has issues with free burgers and Jim Harbaugh

471
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: might go to the NFL. Do you know where those

472
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: rumors are coming from. I think they might be coming

473
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: from inside the house. That might be Jim Harbaugh saying

474
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: I've heard Jim harbough. They got to offer who like?

475
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:53,719
Speaker 2: Do they like? Oh?

476
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 1: No, this is Steve Harrball.

477
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 2: That's what I heard.

478
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: That's where the call is coming from. So there is

479
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: something that Michigan fans and Ohio State fans can't have

480
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 1: nice things for very.

481
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 2: Low No, the Kansas story was fun though. I mean, yes,

482
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: it was incredible. Maybe it was short lived, but they

483
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: did go five and oh to start the season. They

484
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: weaseled their ways negative connotation, but they snaked their way.

485
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: Let's okay, thank you up into the top twenty. Huh

486
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 2: almost beat TCU. He just talked about he's playing in

487
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 2: this game. Yeah, in forty eight hours. So the fact

488
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: that they got to six wins at all this season

489
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 2: is a huge accomplishment given the fact that neither of

490
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 2: the two previous coaches got to six wins in their

491
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: entire arc.

492
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: At Kansas, it puts the thing is that it's unfortunate.

493
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: It puts a lot of pressure on like Pat Fitzgerald, right, Like,

494
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: if Kansas can do it, if Steve could lose one

495
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five pounds and has a six pack,

496
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: now why can't you, Carl. I don't know where I'm

497
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 1: going with this, but it does put a lot of

498
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: pressure on other people. I think the Kansas thing is

499
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: a great story.

500
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: I don't.

501
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: I think I'm putting through Ohio State.

502
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 2: Mission heat on that there's a little bit more meat

503
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: on that bone. And plus, both Ohio State and Michigan

504
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: were just they had more of an impact on the

505
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: arc of college football this season. Both made the playoff.

506
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: I agree.

507
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: So it's hard not that we put TCU through. It's

508
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 2: only fair that we would put Ohio State and Michigan through.

509
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 2: It will get tougher in the next round though, just

510
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,479
Speaker 2: looking ahead at this bracket recognition, the folks out there

511
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: don't have the benefit of seeing the bracket we will

512
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 2: get this. So we're going to go Ohio State.

513
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: We're going Ohio State in Michigan existential crises.

514
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: Let's go to the quarterfinals, quarterfinals.

515
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 4: I like that.

516
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 2: I played the other one that time. Did you guys

517
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: catch that?

518
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 1: No one?

519
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: No one heard boo, No one heard that.

520
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: Should we bring a warm bottom to this seat? Is

521
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: that what we should do? At this point?

522
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: We can if you want to.

523
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: I would love to. We've got a couple of quarter

524
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: final matchups here. So we've got a one in four

525
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: seed entering the fray, right.

526
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: It's correct. We've got taken time three and four to.

527
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: Take on what a twelve seed in the sad big

528
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: ten West Mall, that's right, and in the nine seed

529
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: Dabo slow melting an overwhelming snap choice.

530
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: Should we talk about tc Should we talk about TCU?

531
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: Though?

532
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: Should want to talk about tc I just want to

533
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: we talk about TCU. Okay, well, it's fine, and we've

534
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: got a special guest to help us do that. All right,

535
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: So a nine year, ten year yell it out eleven.

536
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: Eleven year NFL veteran and former starting star tackle for

537
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: the TCU horn Frog's Marshall Newhouse come to say.

538
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: Again just a bunch of burly, big dudes on stage.

539
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: There's a lot of meat up here, a lot of meat. Okay,

540
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna present the matchup with my beer mustache.

541
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: We have a six seed in What the fuck? TCU?

542
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 1: Where the hell did this come from? Against? Excuse me, sir?

543
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: We are at Christian University? Excuse me? Sorry? Sorry?

544
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 2: Do you know that? I asked?

545
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: And I don't know who this is going to offend,

546
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: but I'm almost a half a beer ind I've said.

547
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: I've said to multiple people, it's like, well, TCU, the

548
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: sea is Christian like, it's just a frat place. It's

549
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: just a frat place.

550
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 4: It's loosely affiliated with the Christ Disciple or something like that, okay.

551
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: Or something like that.

552
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: The proud tc alone.

553
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: Just to show you the importance of the scene. If

554
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: you want that, you to Baylor SMU. That was the

555
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: kind of idea I got from. So, TCU, the frogs

556
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: are in this, but they are trying to prove themselves

557
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: to be more important to the twenty twenty two arc. Then,

558
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have a sound for this

559
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: or anything. Tie that's fine, I don't know. You couldn't

560
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: have got round ball rock for me. No, that would

561
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: have been nice.

562
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: I could work on it.

563
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: USC and UCLA getting the hell out of the Pac twelve.

564
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: See that's tough. That's tough.

565
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

566
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 1: So which has been So I just want to talk

567
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: about TCU. There's no way you expected this, No, not

568
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: at all.

569
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 4: I mean people were still you know, processing having to

570
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 4: let go of a guy who's statue is on the

571
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 4: way into the office for the coaching staff. Yeah, and

572
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 4: Gary Patterson. So yeah, there's no way you could have

573
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 4: predicted this. And then subsequently the the pundits put us

574
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 4: at seventh in the Big twelve. I appreciate it, which

575
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 4: at different times, right, yeah, at different times this year,

576
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 4: people you know, have lauded its depth or its lack

577
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 4: of whatever.

578
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's no way you could have known. Did

579
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: when did you know? Like, I think they're actually something?

580
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 4: It was Oklahoma. I mean just I was at the game.

581
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 4: I did a pregame show this year, and you know,

582
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 4: you're kind of highlighting the players. I met a few

583
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 4: of the newer guys and we're like, oh, there's gonna

584
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 4: be a tough game, Oklahoma. You know, we've given them,

585
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 4: you know, challenges for three quarters most of the years

586
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 4: in the last five or so. Ye, and then in

587
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 4: the first quarter we break like two or three long

588
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 4: plays and Oklahoma looks like disheveled on the sideline. I'm like,

589
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 4: that's something I've never seen before. Yeah, I mean not

590
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 4: since two thousand and five. And then by that game,

591
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, we just stomped a hole in their forehead.

592
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 4: This might be for real. So yeah, and then they're

593
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 4: run after that. But yeah, it was Oklahoma again.

594
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: And Monday night. If we were to give you it

595
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: looks like you have your honesty j just right in

596
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 1: front of you. Could you The ongoing question is like, well,

597
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: what would it take for TCU? Like, first of all,

598
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: they're a really good team and they've beaten good teams.

599
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: Are you going into this in the way that I

600
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: think TCU is, which is like, it's free money, nobody

601
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: expected us to be here. Let's just play loose and

602
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: see what happens. Or are you of the mind if

603
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: ABC goes in a specific way, this is a real thing.

604
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: It's very real. I think you know.

605
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 4: TCU fans are pretty realistic fans. We've been kind of

606
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 4: the doormat for a long time. We're a small school.

607
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 4: There's just there weren't a lot of expectations are there now.

608
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 4: But we were realistic before Michigan. I said before the game,

609
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: we need a couple of things to go our way. Turnovers,

610
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 4: big plays. Who knew that they'll mean two pick sixes

611
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 4: and you know, a seventy five yard touchdown. But yeah,

612
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 4: I was very honest about Michigan, and I believe it's

613
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 4: similar to this. We gotta win the term about there's

614
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 4: just no way a Georgia program that's accumulated five star

615
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 4: athletes for six seven years. There's just no way to

616
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 4: beat them at their own game. So there has things

617
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 4: have to go our way a little bit. But walking

618
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 4: if we do the off the bus off the bus test,

619
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 4: there's a tight end at TC who barely just used

620
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: who six seven forty that's during my time there.

621
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: That just wasn't real. There's two tackles who were seeing

622
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: you're a Mountain West athlete. To be clear, Yeah, I

623
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: am honest now that if I were to try to

624
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: get rided t taking that, I'm like, I'm insulting him. No, No,

625
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: I know, I know, no, But it's just it's not

626
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: that long about it.

627
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna kick dan'a ask later it's okay, yeah, registered,

628
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 4: I haven't coming backhanded com registered registered, No, like I

629
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: probably wouldn't get recruited there. Now I'm a shorter tackle,

630
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 4: but the athletes they have now, they're big. And I talked,

631
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 4: I spoke to this about this antiquated notion that TCU's

632
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 4: too small. Fifteen years ago we were too small. That's

633
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 4: just not the case anymore. So that was part of

634
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 4: the Michigan lead up. And so yeah, we stole couple

635
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 4: possessions and Max played okay. He had two picks that

636
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: bounced off receiver's hand yep, and then he threw for

637
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 4: a little under fifty percent.

638
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: He can't do that. Those receivers can drop those balls.

639
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: And so it's there.

640
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 4: I believe it's there, and I also believe George is

641
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 4: not going to underestimate us and it's going to be

642
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: a dogfight. So I don't the house money thing. You know,

643
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 4: it's I know how hard it is to win anything,

644
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 4: any championship. So acting like we're just gonna go on

645
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 4: this run and maybe get back here, there's too much luck,

646
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 4: there's too much craziness that could happen to assume that

647
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 4: that no matter how good you recruit, that this could

648
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 4: happen again, So why not, you know, shoot your shot now.

649
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: It does feel like they're on a hell of a

650
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: run at the craps table, though, and that makes them

651
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: tricky to bet against. Yeah, you could bet Georgia, and

652
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: both Dan and I picked Georgia.

653
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: You speak for yourself, Tied Marshall and Irene Marshall, and

654
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: I believe time you're.

655
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 4: Saying we're the degenerat in the corner with a cigarette

656
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 4: and yeah, yeah empty vodka SODA's just on a heater

657
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 4: right now.

658
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't like I could pick Georgia, and

659
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: I understand all the reasons why it makes sense. I

660
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: don't feel good about it. Yeah, I don't feel good

661
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: about it. I don't want them. I want to see

662
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: you to win, but I don't feel good about it

663
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: because of the run that TCU has been on. And

664
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: you know that feeling of not having anything to lose

665
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: can be really dangerous.

666
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 4: And I'm I'm like, I couldn't gamble, so I'm new

667
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 4: to it. But just the idea and that the machinations

668
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: thirteen points is a lot lot, It's a big number.

669
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: It's a big number.

670
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: Of a quick strike offense that you know, it's being

671
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: in weird situations all year.

672
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: It's twelve now. By the way, has there ever been

673
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: in a hypothetical world in which Georgia wins the National Championship?

674
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 1: Will there ever be a happier group of fans to lose?

675
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: Was in the National Championship? Not that tc was happy

676
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: just to be here, but just like whatever, who we're running,

677
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: we're shriaking down the street and our pants are on

678
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: exact continue.

679
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: So here here is the matchup that we brought you

680
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: up here, beyond of course the game preview when you're

681
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: insight into TCU, But the matchup we've got here is

682
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: between TCU and this incredible run and what otherwise would

683
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: be the biggest story in college football, the notion that

684
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: both USC and UCLA and LA as a whole is

685
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: now a big ten town. Dan, I kind of feel

686
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: like that's the bigger thing that we should I mean.

687
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: It's disrespect towards Santa Monica City College, but continue, I just.

688
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: Kind of feel like that's a bigger, more important thing. Sure,

689
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: we talked more about and that everybody got a little

690
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: bit more into the.

691
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: Well and the idea of realignment also affects TCU with

692
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: Texas and Oklahoma leaving, because TCU again Big twelve Championship adjacent.

693
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: TCU is in a position to go to the playoff

694
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: probably more often if Oklahoma is fully weaponized, that's certainly

695
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: a roadblock. And with you know, all due respect to Cincinnati, UCF,

696
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: BYU and Houston, like, the road is a lot better

697
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: for TCU right now with Oklahoma leaving, should they get

698
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: back to where they've been? So I think it's USC

699
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: and UCLA just because it sort of changes the trajectory

700
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: of how we look at the sport that it's become

701
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: like a big ten sec thing at this point. But man,

702
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: you USC fans and UCLA fans going to State College,

703
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: do you want to like speak specifically about how hard

704
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: it is not just to get there, but to exist there.

705
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: There is not NonStop service from lax No to State College.

706
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: No, there is tricky. Is there a slider word than remote?

707
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: It's a long van ride from Pittsburgh or Philly for

708
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: most fans. Right you fly into University Park, but most

709
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 2: of the land can't. It's a tough place to get

710
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: to you Otherwise.

711
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, USC and UCLA firebombing a conference to chase money.

712
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: All due respect, I have a lot of USC friends

713
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: UCLA fan friend one. I think there's not that many

714
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: of them. If you've ever seen there, there is, and

715
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are a couple of examples of stadiums

716
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: that really pop in empty ways. The Rose Bowl is

717
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: special because we all love the Rose Bowl, right, we

718
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: love the game itself. But there's something about, like, I'm

719
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: pretty sure two thirds of the stadium are empty, two

720
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: thirds of the seats are empty for a UCLA game,

721
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: and the big twelve is we want you. And so

722
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: that's funny to me that there is you know, maybe

723
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: Iowa fans will travel, maybe Minnesota fans will travel, but

724
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: it's still gonna be tricky. There's there's something about an

725
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: empty Rose Bowl that I don't know. It just feels

726
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: like home being from here.

727
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 2: Does anybody object to us putting USC and UCLA through Yes, yeah,

728
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: other than you Marshall of course.

729
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: By the way, there was something I don't know a

730
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: few days ago after TCU beat Michigan, somebody from the

731
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: TCU Athletic department or something like radios they said something like,

732
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, all these people are acting surprised about TCU,

733
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: But we knew the whole time. Bullshit, you guys needed.

734
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: You guys needed to sprint out in Unison to kick

735
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: a field goal against Baylor to get here.

736
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: We knew the whole time.

737
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 4: I'm I'm positive that that's called a bazooka kick, and

738
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 4: we practiced every Thursday.

739
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm positive you watch the end of that game with

740
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: your arms crossed like, nope, nope, nope, not even close.

741
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: I was too busy. I was down the sideline trolling

742
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: the Baylor student section. Well that's fun, that's fun. That's

743
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: what you're legally supposed to be doing as a TCU person.

744
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, before we let you go, do you have a

745
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: prediction while you're up here?

746
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, I mean I've been doing the show and

747
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 4: so I'm like, I've got my Homer shirt on all

748
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 4: the time, but I truly believe it. With a couple

749
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 4: you know, bounces our way like we're in the game,

750
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 4: but it feels like like a one score Georgia win.

751
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 4: But I think there's a chance, like late in the

752
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 4: fourth quarter, there's a game turning drive for TACU or

753
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 4: Georgia that will either have to teach you there to

754
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 4: win or will kind of they'll pull away, but I

755
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 4: mean it's gonna be a closer game. It'll be very

756
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 4: well contested.

757
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: Georgia could cover and it could still be hell of

758
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: a game.

759
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah. So any given Monday nights specifically built for

760
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: TV audiences, anything could happen.

761
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, put your hands together for Marshall.

762
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. Am I free? You're free?

763
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: Okay, go be our biggest fan. Thank you.

764
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: Do you want to keep it going with large humans

765
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: in this chair? We can. That's not confidence.

766
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 2: Let's do it all right? Another guest.

767
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: We have another guest, another large human. Ladies and gentlemen

768
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: from the Gojo Show. You've seen him on ESPN, You've

769
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: seen him on he might be on Twitter twenty four

770
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: hours a day, seven days of Mike Gullig Junior.

771
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: I just want to say thank you for not reading

772
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: my football resume after Marshalls there is.

773
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: You have a hell of a Wikipedia page. By the way,

774
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: he is the only professional, semi professional football player. You

775
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: played in Brooklyn, New York professionally.

776
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: Yes, the I played in the Brooklyn Cyclones Minor League

777
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: baseball park on Cony Island. Huh, I rode a legit

778
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: yellow school bus to professional football practice. But I did

779
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 3: make the All Star team in the FXFL and didn't

780
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 3: get paid for the last three weeks.

781
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: Is that true? Yes, that.

782
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: At some point it's not thirty for thirty worthy at all.

783
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: But someone will do like a small YouTube short on

784
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 3: what happened to that fall? Uh huh, where I ate

785
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 3: at the same Spanish restaurant, worked out at the same

786
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: La Fitness and went bowling three nights a week, living

787
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: in a holiday and Express on Staten Island for three months.

788
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: He just brought the room down. Yeah, no, it was

789
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: dark times, man, it was dark times anyway. Happy to

790
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: be here.

791
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: On the Brass tax Mic. We've got a compelling matchup

792
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: here between a number nine seed otherwise known as Dabosweeney

793
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: slowly melting and the number one overall seed, which we're

794
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 2: referring to as transfer portal fucking chaos, well language, well

795
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: chaos chaos. We're actually a Catholic institute, yea.

796
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: We care about the God stuff, so.

797
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: Everybody knows about the dabble thing. We just talked about that,

798
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: the God the nil thing. We could talk about that quote, yeah,

799
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: in due time, but I'm curious from your perspective as

800
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: a former college athlete, how you feel about the transfer

801
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: portal chaos, because I'm sure you've seen the numbers. Over

802
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 2: a thousand people entered their name into the transfer portal.

803
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: Some have pulled their names out, some have pulled their

804
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: names out and then put them back in it at

805
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: all careful. We just got done with the milk and stuff.

806
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: I keep thinking of the old ESPN Y two K

807
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: commercial where they countdown three two to one, you hear

808
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: the alarms call freedom. Charlie Steiner's doing braveheart. Yes he's

809
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: playing for Tulsa now, Charlie Steiner. Congratulations. Yeah, So where

810
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: are you at with the transfer portal and all this

811
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: chaos we've seen well, and especially what.

812
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: You guys brought up is its outsize impact on the

813
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: world of college football.

814
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: We just got through, I believe the last of the.

815
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: Major transfer portal quarterback Dominos to follow with Brendan Armstrong

816
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: following his former offensive coordinator Brandon and I two NC State.

817
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 3: But we saw the impact it had on USC this year.

818
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 3: We saw the impact that it's had on Old miss

819
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: and Slane Kiffin got there. It's got tangible impact that

820
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: we've seen almost immediately on the field for some big programs,

821
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: and it's the easiest sports tall gas back subject on earth.

822
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: You can get Stephen A. Smith talking about that. Yeah,

823
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: if Steven A. Smith is talking about college football, that

824
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: tends to mean whatever.

825
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: The subject is a.

826
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: Pretty big deal. Yeah, I mean this. The other interesting

827
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: thing about this matchup is that Dabos Sweeney versus the

828
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: transfer portal is also a real life gage. It's ongoing,

829
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 2: right Simpson, fans all just slowly dying, as you said, Yeah, yeah,

830
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: it's true.

831
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: Continue to say.

832
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: It just doesn't seem like Dabo's got a handle on

833
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: that situation.

834
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: No, not at all. Here here's my question for Mike though,

835
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: with the transfer portal stuff, you were you were pretty

836
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: locked in on Notre Dame obviously a legacy and you

837
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: love Look you're wearing a Notre Dame little Is that

838
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: a jacket or is that it's a patch? No, it's

839
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: just a jacket.

840
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 2: It's a jacket.

841
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: It's just a jacket. Yeah, I'm learning things as we go.

842
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: This would not you would have not entertained the idea

843
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: I presume of leaving Notre Dame.

844
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: I thought briefly about it. Okay, to my last year

845
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 3: just because I hadn't played a bunch. But it was

846
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: a lot harder decision. I was, obviously, you know, a

847
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 3: legacy player there all that good stuff, so would have

848
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: been a lot harder than it seems to be now,

849
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 3: which that part is wild to me, and I'm sure

850
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 3: Marshall can speak to this too. The thought of uprooting

851
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 3: everything that you've done as frequently as some players have

852
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 3: seems incredibly off putting, Like they do have to think

853
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: about it a lot more like a business that we

854
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: ever did.

855
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, so when you look at this, does it

856
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: like Tie is all in on the transfer portal? Tie

857
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: loves I mean, look, Tie is a professional talker now,

858
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: so it gives us fodder all year long, like okay,

859
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: this quarterback's going here, or this new coach just brought

860
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: in forty new players or whatever from the portal lane.

861
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: Kiffin's the portal king. Do you enjoy it in that

862
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 1: way or you're like that's kind of a bummer, because

863
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: there is something nice about like you going somewhere with

864
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: four years and you're making all these like lifelong friends.

865
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: What are you? Are you mixed on it? Do you

866
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: understand it? But does it you wear you with it,

867
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: so I.

868
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 3: Don't get as inundated with it overall, necessarily because trying

869
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: to keep tack of each and everyone that jumps into

870
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: the portal is an impossible task. I'm like, skipped a labor,

871
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 3: Show me the baby, tell me where the good guy's

872
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 3: end up, and we'll be good with all that. I'm

873
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: a fan of it because it allows more teams to

874
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 3: get better quick yeah, which I think as a college

875
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: football fan helps in an era we're about to expand

876
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: the playoff. And I think it also gives players recourse

877
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: against the system that's traditionally landlocked them. Where now you've

878
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: got guys that, if their coach decides to up and

879
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 3: leave after the first signing day, have the ability to

880
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: get out if the bill of goods they were sold

881
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: isn't the one that they get when they get on campus. Like,

882
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: coaches have to tell you the truth now, they didn't

883
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: always have to tell you the truth before in those

884
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 3: recruiting meetings because you were, you know whatever, a star prospect.

885
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: They could make you feel all the things you wanted

886
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 3: to feel, and then you got on campus and you

887
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: were theirs, and it was really hard to get out

888
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 3: of that and so I like, in a sport where

889
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: the players do not yet have a union, that they've

890
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 3: got some way to impact their future in a four

891
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: or five year window.

892
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: There's also the interesting dynamic of recruiting your current players

893
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: like you probably wouldn't have hated for your offensive line

894
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: coach in meetings like hey, by the way, Mike, you

895
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 1: mean a ton to us and we love having You're like, hey, thanks.

896
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: It's it's created such an interesting dynamic where, yes, it

897
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 3: feels like now they've still got to be nice to you.

898
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 3: You get on this, so maybe it eliminates you getting

899
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: five am punishment workouts for two weeks straights after a

900
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 3: very lame, minor intoxication.

901
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: That is off my record now.

902
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 5: Hypothetically he could be talking about anybody not gonna point

903
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 5: any old last year, but no, I think I had

904
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 5: an interesting conversation last year doing a North Carolina game

905
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 5: with Mac Brown, And obviously anyone who's ever lost a

906
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 5: game in North.

907
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 3: Carolina is in a very long conversation with Mac Brown

908
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: and midfield, way longer than I want to. But it

909
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: was interesting hearing him talk about that, because I think

910
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: it changes the way some of these coaches have to

911
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 3: operate if they're smart, which is word of mouth has

912
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 3: always been the best recruiting device. Players talk now more

913
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: than ever. And he said, if a guy doesn't think

914
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 3: the best opportunity for him is here, we want to

915
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: help get him to where he thinks that that was

916
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 3: the promise we made him recruiting. And listen, he's talking

917
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: to the media. He's selling us the right stuff. But

918
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: that's the point is if that's the the let's say,

919
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 3: perception of you that's out there, and then that impacts players,

920
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: and you show that on a day to day basis,

921
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: players are gonna buy what you're selling. And that, to

922
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: me is the biggest thing. If you're truthful in the

923
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: way you build your program, you're not gonna have to

924
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 3: do as much recruiting.

925
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: Right by the way, just as an aside, Mac Brown,

926
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 1: an all time elite first name.

927
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: Remember, remembers everybody's name, so you.

928
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: Got like the doc Rivers in the NBA. But he

929
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: does do something where like a media member will ask

930
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: him a question, He'll say like, great question, Derek, and

931
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: Derek will say that was a great questions Mac.

932
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: It's why if these coaches ever have a chance go

933
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: do the media thing. For a year. Yeah, because you'll

934
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: learn how easy it is to get us.

935
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: Such marks. Yeah, it's unbelievable. We don't take much.

936
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: Just the Cross has done at Hollister. He can head

937
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: right for the boost somewhere. So I think we got

938
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: to put the portal through. I think portal through. I

939
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 2: love the Dabbos, slowly melting love it one the name,

940
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: image and likeness of God. That's right.

941
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss that.

942
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: I have quote. We built this program on nil. We

943
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: really did. Sweeney said, it's probably different than what you're thinking. Though.

944
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: We built this programm in God's name, image and likeness.

945
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: Thank you.

946
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: It's perfect. It's perfect. Here's what.

947
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence does. Look like the white God they put

948
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: up in my cap at high school.

949
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: So let that sink in. Okay, there's something about Dabbo

950
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: where he's it seems like he's gonna coach Clemson forever, right,

951
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: that's his thing. He's gonna be the the Clemson whatever.

952
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: But at some point he's going to retire and I

953
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: don't know, like he'll have speaking circuit. The only other

954
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: thing that I could think about for Dabbo after he

955
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: leaves is because of the way he speaks the name,

956
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: image and likeness of God. That's how we There is

957
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: going to be something like I'm Dabo Sweeney and I

958
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 1: know a little bit about gold, which is why I'm

959
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: here to tell you a little bit about Gold.

960
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: Right.

961
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: There is gonna be like you'll be watching something with

962
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: an elder relative and Dabbo will appear on your screen

963
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: like as the next like I don't know who's doing now,

964
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: Tom Selleck, Like Dabo is going to fit in so

965
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: smoothly in that world.

966
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: I'm so excited for. And I guess it's not gonna

967
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 3: be my grandparents anymore. This will be like my dad

968
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 3: or I guess not my dad maybe specifically because he

969
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 3: would know this, but somebody's dad who becomes a grandpa

970
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 3: gonna be like, did you know this nice gold Man.

971
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: Used to coach that football team? Who knew Carolinas. It's

972
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: gonna be such an easy transition and we are all

973
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: going to see it coming now.

974
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, put your hands together. From Mike Gouling Junior, thank you, sir.

975
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: Wait before you go, Before you go, do you want

976
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: to place any of the Big ten West coaches in

977
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: a sad mall store? Okay, so I guess Luke Fickle

978
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: doesn't count. We're gonna have to go Paul Christ because

979
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: he was the one who was the head coach for

980
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: a time this year. You've got Brett Bielima, You've got

981
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: Kirk Farens. Who am I missing? From the Big ten West.

982
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: You've got Pat Fitzgerald, Oh and PJ Flack. Yeah.

983
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: Brett Bielima was recently fire from the Cinnabon as the

984
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: night manager because he was stealing them.

985
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: Low hanging but accurate. Yeah, I am what I am? Yep,

986
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: thank you very much, My.

987
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: Dog dinner, our Cinderella from round one the Big ten

988
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: West sad Mall against a very strong number four seed.

989
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher's buyout, Yes, can afford the whole damn mall.

990
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: Eighty five million is the buyout.

991
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

992
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: For those playing along at home, this is the kind

993
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 2: of topic that you draft for a dynasty fantasy league. Yes,

994
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: of course, because he signed the contract five years ago.

995
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: He re upped the contract two years ago now twenty

996
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: twenty one, and we're still talking about it. It was

997
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: the contract that changed college football coaching forever. Yeah, because

998
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 2: I remember it was ten year, seventy five million dollars

999
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: ten years what it was a big talking point for us.

1000
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 2: Now it's more of a talking point now, but not

1001
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: for the reasons we thought when you signed the contract.

1002
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: It could be because A M did not score thirty

1003
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: points against Power five opponent until the last week of

1004
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 2: the season.

1005
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: That'll happen. That'll happen, Yeah, last week of the season. Dan, Yes,

1006
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: so eighty five million dollars is a lot of money.

1007
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: But also shout out to the guy for discovering the

1008
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: greatest retirement plan in the sports Texas A and M's

1009
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: coaching job. There's nothing better. There's nothing like. Can you

1010
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: imagine the coaches that have been on the line with

1011
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: their agents to say, look at some points, just get

1012
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: me in there right like, you know, when this is

1013
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: all said and done, Lincoln Riley is gonna be the

1014
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: head coach in Texas A and M. I'm gonna walk you.

1015
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk you through the process. Lincoln Riley's gonna

1016
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: take an NFL job in twenty twenty four. It's gonna

1017
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 1: go pretty well and then poorly, and then he's gonna

1018
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: end up in College Station Texas. It's just a quick

1019
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: little spoiler alert for the Lincoln Riley trajectory here with

1020
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: me a very wealthy man.

1021
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: The Jimbo buy out. I think I'm just sort of

1022
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: transfixed at how much we talked about it this year.

1023
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: We expect to, I think is what made it so

1024
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 2: notable in our world. The big ten West Sad Maldough

1025
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: is it's teaming with coaches with bad programs. I mean,

1026
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: we didn't even talk about Kirk ference. No, let's take

1027
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: a secon. Let's take a knee to talk about Kirk Ferencene,

1028
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: late stage, Kirk Farnce at this point, so we talk

1029
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: about half teams on the show all the time. By

1030
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: the numbers that we look at, one hundred and twentieth

1031
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: an offense, Well yeah, first, first, in defense, I cannot

1032
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: remember a disparity that large since we've been doing the show.

1033
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: Maybe somebody else can. But one twenty to one is

1034
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: a pretty big deal in a vacuum, that's not that

1035
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: big of a story. But the fact that i was

1036
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: been there before, and the fact that Iowa was sought

1037
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: to try and solve the problem by saying, hey, Brian,

1038
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: you know something about electrical work, don't you, right, can

1039
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: you give us a shot? Like it costs money to

1040
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: do a fixer upper of this magnitude.

1041
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: It's it's unimaginable how bad Iowa's offense got. They were

1042
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: never great on offense. The thing that I specifically love

1043
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: is that there is an obvious conflict of interest to

1044
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: the point where Brian Ferrence doesn't report to his father,

1045
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: the head coach, and that it's other people deciding his

1046
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: job performance. It was so so bad to watch Iowa.

1047
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: But again, I treasure it. I treasure the Big Ten West.

1048
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: I treasure how bad it got. I treasure the fact

1049
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: that their best offensive coordinator was their defensive coordinator and

1050
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: Phil Parker, that's pretty great. This was Iowa. Iowa's incompetence

1051
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: was so creative and novel. I celebrate it. It was

1052
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: so incompetent that it was the best and they made

1053
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: it work. They well to an extent. Sure, they made

1054
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: it too and won a bowl game. That's true. They

1055
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: shut out a very said Kentucky team.

1056
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 2: Speaking of malls. Right, so I still feel like, you know,

1057
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 2: despite the fact that the Big Ten West sad mall

1058
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 2: is a fun thing to say.

1059
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: Well, do you think here's the question, do you think

1060
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: it's more difficult to be truly terrible at Iowa on

1061
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: offense given that defense, or is it more difficult to

1062
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: screw up on the level of Texas A and M

1063
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: with the talent of the Aggies with I mean, the

1064
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: sec Wes wasn't incredible this year.

1065
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: What do you think Kirk Farrens would do with the

1066
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: roster in college station? Oh my god, they would all

1067
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 2: be transferring. Just if they switch spots, right, what would happen?

1068
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 2: Punts be a lot of punting. No, nothing terribly different. No,

1069
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: it's it's just he's much more expensive Jimbo. He's much

1070
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: more expensive Jimbo. Fisher's buiout goes through I think, and

1071
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 2: so this is where the twelve seeds run.

1072
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: I also like that you have to pay attention to

1073
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: oil futures to gauge whether or not it's realistic to

1074
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: get rid like, there are move there are things afoot

1075
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: that have to happen. Okay, we're gonna have to explain

1076
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: the snaps to the at home audio audience.

1077
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: I currently fakes up a little bit so that we

1078
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 2: can pick it up our two versus seven matchup. We

1079
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: already talked about the Ohio State Michigan freakouts. Tough matchup

1080
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: here going up against Nil Madness. Yes, you and I

1081
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: Nil boom boo. We You and I talked about the possibility,

1082
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: the weirdest possible ways that NIL could be applied, and

1083
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 2: I believe at the coffee shop before this, our conclusion

1084
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: was JT. Daniels accepting money from the Qataris to play

1085
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 2: in an off shoot league. So I believe that was

1086
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: what we came up with.

1087
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: Here is my pitch. Here's my pitch, maybe a soft pitch.

1088
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: In the shadow of Mike Goelick junior're talking about not

1089
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: getting paid to play in the I think it's the

1090
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: fx FL. Okay, it's almost the XFL. It's the FXFL

1091
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 1: that was their commercial on the side of a bus.

1092
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: I think it is worthwhile in that NBA players when

1093
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: it's not working out for them in the NBA, they

1094
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: can retire, they can coach, they can go sit and

1095
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: be the fourteenth man and be that. Like Pseudo. I

1096
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: don't know how familiar are with the NBAB Like Eudonnas.

1097
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 1: Haslam has been on the Miami Heat and hasn't played

1098
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: meaningful minutes since like two thousand and six.

1099
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 2: And that's great locker room guy. He's a guy. He's

1100
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: a glue guy.

1101
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: He's a culture guy, sure, But a lot of these

1102
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: guys who still have some life in their legs in

1103
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: the NBA, they'll go to China, right, and they'll cash

1104
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: in like Dwight Howard's averaging forty seven points for the

1105
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: Beijing Ducks. All I'm saying is I want an nil

1106
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: option from some possibly problematic state. But I'm saying, and

1107
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm not mocking problematic states, they are problematic. But what

1108
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I want guys who just can't find

1109
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: that home right, that JT. Daniels, that whoever that has

1110
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: transferred a couple of times down on their luck. I

1111
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: want them to go be a god in the Philippines.

1112
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: That's all I want. Like I want, I want to

1113
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: hear about somebody I've forgotten about, like in four years.

1114
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: I want to hear about Dju making one hundred and

1115
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: forty million dollars in Sri Lanka. That's all I want

1116
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: for these guys that if look, it's not gonna work

1117
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 1: out as a college football player stateside, but for whatever reason,

1118
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: it's really worked out for them in Taipei.

1119
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: I sat jaw a gape earlier when we looked up

1120
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: some of these Chinese basketball stats. Oh yeah, it's in

1121
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 2: Kyler Hansbro two years ago. Yeah, it's like thirty eight

1122
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: years old. At this point was averaging thirty three points.

1123
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: Again, yes, so so this has gone off the rails.

1124
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: But there is something kind of fun about nil because

1125
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: we don't know anything, right, We don't know the accurate numbers.

1126
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: We hear about quarterbacks, we hear about you know, schools

1127
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: like Tennessee or now recently you see like congratulations, yeah exactly,

1128
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: and you hear about like Miami and Oregon. Right, they've

1129
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: got this like one big booster. And the funny like

1130
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: line behind the scenes with Oregon is like, we gotta

1131
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: win before Phil goes. We gotta he's eighty four, we

1132
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: gotta make this work. And he's just throwing money into

1133
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: the fire. There is something great about that that, you know,

1134
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: it's the what the life line, life block whatever? John

1135
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: Ruiz at Miami, like, we shouldn't know these guys's names.

1136
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: But now it's sort of in the light a little bit,

1137
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 1: and they're paying players what their market, the market deems

1138
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: them to be worth. There's something wonderful and mysterious about it.

1139
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, now all the under the table stuff is above

1140
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 2: the table.

1141
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: Some of it is, yeah, and it's.

1142
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 2: It's like I can only imagine the first big party

1143
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: after they got rid of prohibition.

1144
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and nobody knows what to do.

1145
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: Everybody's just like, what do.

1146
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: What do I do with this?

1147
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 2: Here?

1148
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: We are true And what happens now is you'll hear

1149
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: recruits saying, well, I could have gotten more to go

1150
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: to this school, but I am a man of integrity

1151
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: and I'm going to Alabama or whatever for less money.

1152
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 1: It's great, it's wonderful. It's it's a new element to things.

1153
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: And we had that like that period of time where

1154
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: like not recruits, but active players are doing commercials and

1155
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 1: they still are, like you have the Nebraska dB Duck,

1156
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: Coldest Crawford wonderful, the air conditioning commercial. Excuse me, but

1157
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: now this charade is kind of fading into the background

1158
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: a little bit and it's just guys getting paid, which

1159
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: I'm great with. I love.

1160
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 2: So NIL clearly has to go through it has to

1161
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 2: go through issues, I think. So it's been such a

1162
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 2: such a big story. We have to put it in

1163
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: that we're in favor of it, you're in favor of it.

1164
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: That's over what Ohio State over Ohio State and Michigan

1165
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: freak outs. The one thing I did want to bring

1166
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 2: up on that on that note, and it really doesn't

1167
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: fit in neatly to any of the things that we're

1168
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: talking about here. I just wanted to read this quote

1169
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 2: from Jim Harbaugh quote as I stayed in in December.

1170
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: While no one knows what the future holds, I expect

1171
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: that I will be enthusiastically coaching at Michigan in twenty

1172
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 2: twenty three. Who am I? I expect I will be

1173
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: enthusiastically married It Like, yeah, what kind of a quote

1174
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 2: is that you're saying?

1175
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: Jim harmlas Jim Harbaugh's firm where it needs to be updated?

1176
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: Maybe like he's a chat what is the app? He's

1177
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: a chat GPT coach.

1178
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 2: Here's a little bit of so.

1179
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: That is what is it?

1180
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 2: An AI app?

1181
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have to explain these jokes sometimes.

1182
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh is I joked a long time ago that

1183
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh is what happens when you teach human emotion

1184
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: to a robot. Yeah, and I stand by that he's

1185
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: a great coach.

1186
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that this is what you got? Yeah, I

1187
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: don't recall those Hamburgers. Yeah, isn't that what he's in

1188
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: trouble for? It does not compute, Nil goes through.

1189
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: Hey. That brings us to the semi final. All right

1190
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,479
Speaker 2: here it is the final four, Final four straight chalk

1191
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: in a sense, had some early round upsets, but just

1192
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: like the real March badness, we get down to the

1193
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: top four, we've got Jimbo Fisher's buyout against transfer portal chaos.

1194
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: Dan, mm hmm.

1195
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 2: This is a big one.

1196
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: This is a big one. Well again, these are two

1197
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: that are linked inextricably because if you followed what Texas

1198
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: A and M players are doing, getting the hell out right.

1199
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: So I think it's probably portal chaos because it affects

1200
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: more teams and it's something that looms over the sport,

1201
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: largely in a positive way. But you never know who

1202
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: is coming, who is going whatever. We know Jimbo Fish

1203
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: is gonna leave Texas A and M. We don't know

1204
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: if it's this year. We know it's probably gonna happen

1205
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: in the next couple of years. I think Bobby Patrino

1206
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: is a nice agent of chaos to speed things up.

1207
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: Nice catalyst if you wanted to speed up the process

1208
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: and perhaps use the term for cause, maybe bringing Bobby

1209
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: Patrino to do some dirty work. Am I am? I

1210
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: am I implying that Bobby Patrino is a double agents.

1211
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be fair. Yes, I am. I'm absolutely implying

1212
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: Bobby Patrino has been hired for a very specific reason.

1213
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the sheer magnitude of the portal this season,

1214
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: the fact that we had so many names going in,

1215
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: and the fact that you know, granted we'll talk about

1216
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 2: Nil here. I terily by all the tampering that we

1217
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: know happened that nobody talks about, and how it's inextricably

1218
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 2: linked to Nil. And it's like there is definitely a

1219
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 2: wild West quality to the portal. And what I find

1220
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: amusing about it is that it's always the coaches that

1221
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: are losing, the transfers that try to take the mortal

1222
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 2: high ground. Pat ar Doozy, Oh my god, Pat's the

1223
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 2: best patent Ardozy, as I've said before, doesn't ky, He

1224
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: doesn't give any fs. I won't say the word right

1225
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: at this point, Pat Nardoozy is like ready to speak

1226
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: on any and everybody who wants to hear it.

1227
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: I would pay five dollars a month for patn Ardozy substack.

1228
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: I would now sign me up. I'd probably pay twelve

1229
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: dollars to twenty dollars a month. If Patton Ardozy was like,

1230
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: here is all of the dirty laundry, I'm totally in

1231
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: for that substack tie. Yeah, you're absolutely right though.

1232
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: It's got to be the portal. Right, we got to

1233
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 2: put the number one overall seed through. I'm putting the

1234
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: portal through over jim What do you guys think, would

1235
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: you go, Jimbo? Would you go portal?

1236
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, it's portal portal.

1237
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we have to.

1238
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think life is too grand out here to

1239
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: be concerned with Jimbo Fisher.

1240
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: All right. That brings us to nil madness, which we

1241
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 2: just talked about versus something that on our slides before

1242
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: we had labeled as us see you later. And the

1243
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 2: reason we left UCLA off again is because you said,

1244
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 2: no one gives a shit.

1245
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: It's real tough. It's real tough to find UCLA people. Yeah,

1246
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: that's all, Okay, we have we have the twos, all right,

1247
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: nobody can see them, all right, So we've got three

1248
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: three U c l A people here.

1249
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: Here is why I think we need to pick nil. Yeah,

1250
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: because USC and u c l A will remain profitable

1251
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 2: for whatever conference they go into next. Right, we'll pay

1252
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 2: dividends well into the future. There will come a point

1253
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 2: in time where folks look at NIL and they say,

1254
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 2: we paid what for a freshman quarterback? The r O

1255
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 2: I will eventually catch up to the people paying this money.

1256
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 2: I'm here for that story.

1257
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: Do you do you remember that people with a ton

1258
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: of money just love spending money, and they spend it

1259
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: on all sorts of crazy things. I think they're underestimating

1260
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: that a little bit. Okay, that's all I'm saying.

1261
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 2: So are you thinking maybe it's your Southern California bias showing.

1262
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, right.

1263
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: Are you thinking maybe USC and UCLA is probably the bigger,

1264
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 2: the bigger, so more impactful story from this college football

1265
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: seas maybe the one true champion.

1266
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: As representatives of realignment. Yes, I don't think USC and

1267
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: UCLA resonate. Perhaps, I mean USC resonates right, they have

1268
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy winner. It's a bigger program. Whatever. I'll

1269
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: due respect to UCLA. I grew up at UCLA fan

1270
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: down here. I know what it's like to have nobody

1271
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: recognize who you are and your team. I miss Kate

1272
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: McNown There is something about the shifting wins of the

1273
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: sport that USC and UCLA represent, and you all of

1274
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: a sudden you have Big twelve and Pac twelve people

1275
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: yelling at each other online over TV ratings.

1276
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: It's awful. It's truly bad.

1277
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: And so because that is permeated the sport and Texas

1278
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma leaving the sport, and it is, by the way,

1279
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: as an aside, it will be very fun for Oklahoma

1280
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: to take on Lincoln Riley and Texas A and M

1281
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: in a few years.

1282
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: I am just.

1283
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: It's his destiny. Do you not understand this? I don't

1284
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: know if it's an off season story. I mean, realignment

1285
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: sort of comes and goes. I don't know how much

1286
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: it's actually going to change the college football experience because

1287
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: teams aren't going away. The thing it'll change if teams

1288
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: like Oregon State and Washington State become like Mountain West teams.

1289
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: That's a big change, and that's that's a worthwhile thing

1290
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: to talk about. But you're saying nil madness. I think

1291
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: Nil is going to have a bigger grip on this sport.

1292
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 2: But we're in Los Angeles.

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01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: We're in Los Angeles.

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01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 2: We're in Los Angeles. Yes, you know who are we

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01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 2: going with?

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01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: Here?

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01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 2: We go in US US.

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01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: The USC guy of course, said we're going to sc UCLA. Wait,

1299
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: hold on, are you are you happy about being a

1300
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: Big ten program? Are you making any money off of it?

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01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1302
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: So that's the thing, that's the tough thing. I will

1303
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: go USC UCLA just because it'll it'll. It's I was

1304
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: going ANIL, but people here said us the UCLA, And

1305
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm a prisoner to these attractive people.

1306
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 2: So all right, the three is going through. Yes, let's

1307
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 2: decide our one true champion, Dan, Okay, let's do it.

1308
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 2: It is a big time matchup. It is USC UCLA

1309
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 2: leaving the PAC twelve, going east east to the Big ten. Yeah,

1310
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: versus transfer portal chaos. Yeah, this is a BigGAN. Who's

1311
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: favored and who do you got?

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01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: I think I'm going portal chaos because there is something

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01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: that there will be contracts drawn up with USC and

1314
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: UCLA leaving when they're going, What the travel looks like,

1315
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: what the schedules look like, what the TV listings look like.

1316
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: With the portal, there's nothing like you can leave once

1317
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: for free and then you're a grad tran you can

1318
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: leave again. But they're the tampering stuff, which I mean

1319
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: is wonderful, and I just hope we get more stories

1320
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: about tampering. I like I said, I'm going to subscribe

1321
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: to paton Ardoozy's eventual substack. I think that's what it is.

1322
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: I think the movement in the sport. I mean, these

1323
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: are both representative of movement in the sport, but I

1324
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: think it is the portal stuff that teams can get

1325
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: so much better so quickly, or teams can plug holes,

1326
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: or teams can become deeper that the usc UCLA thing,

1327
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: I think is more of a bummer. But maybe I'm

1328
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: a biased Oregon fan there Whereas I think the portal thing,

1329
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: I like chaos in this sport. I like the unpredictable,

1330
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: I like the novelty. So my bias says portal chaos.

1331
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: The thing that's interesting about this, much like the much

1333
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 2: like the Dabo Sweeney versus the transfer portal that we

1334
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 2: had earlier on in this bracket is Yeah, I mean,

1335
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 2: outside of the game that we've got on Monday, outside

1336
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 2: of the playoff and some of the stories that came

1337
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 2: as a resultable season Yeah, you could argue that the

1338
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 2: USC and UCLA thing versus a transfer portal sort of

1339
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 2: defined the season even before it started. Sure, right, so

1340
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 2: this is a very representative matchup of where college football is.

1341
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: But how much did we talk about it as a collective?

1342
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously was talked about here, but like during

1343
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: the season where there are a lot of conversations about

1344
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: like what the Big ten will be in twenty twenty

1345
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: five or whatever.

1346
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 2: It was definitely the subject of many a comment that

1347
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 2: we got on YouTube that started with kids these days.

1348
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: Sure, absolutely, kids these days, yeah.

1349
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,959
Speaker 2: Right, or the networks are running college.

1350
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: Football administrators these days.

1351
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 2: Every cynical online, extremely online college football fan had a

1352
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 2: little something to sink their teeth into with USC and

1353
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: UCLA leaving as well as the transfer portal in the chaos.

1354
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: I mean, we can just ask Mike what his winner is.

1355
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 2: Mike, could you pick.

1356
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: He's thinking he is a professional thinker and talking thinking.

1357
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: Or we can we can ask a more.

1358
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: Accomplished football player, Marshall, what do you think port portal?

1359
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: I think that's the champion, true champion.

1360
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 2: Give it up for the transfer portal, the one true

1361
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 2: champion of our college football season. Transfer portal chaos.

1362
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Heisman Trophy winner emerged from the

1363
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: transfer portal fight of right. Yeah yeah, So, I mean

1364
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: that's pretty good.

1365
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 2: Transfer portal chaos. So amid a field of eleven other peers,

1366
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: some more equal than others. Transfer portal wins.

1367
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean you've sent me borderline inappropriate messages about Sam Hartman.

1368
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: I got to watch bo Nick instead of whatever Mario

1369
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: Christobal was doing at Oregon. I'm a pretty big fan.

1370
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: You seem to be a pretty big fan. He's got

1371
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 1: you DM Devin Leary's high school coach. Randomly, That's not true.

1372
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: I just made that up. It was a one time thing. Yeah.

1373
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 2: Tie is not a representative of the is al Borland

1374
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 2: Beard will fit in very nice.

1375
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: We love it.

1376
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: They love it.

1377
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: The Transfer Portal is our one true champion.

1378
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 2: One true champion. Play your hands together with the Transfer Portal.

1379
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 2: With that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

1380
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: for myself, Tie Hill and brand thanks for coming on

1381
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 2: out here to the Solid Heblive, Stay solid peace. All right,

1382
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 2: So here's the way this works. This microphone in between.

1383
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 2: We are gonna bring this down there. We should make

1384
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 2: people sit right next to us. Yeah, we'll bring this

1385
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 2: down to the somewhere in the middle between the seats. Yep,

1386
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 2: we'll do about a half hour Q and A typically

1387
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 2: is what we do want and most of our live show.

1388
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 2: So if you got anything you want to ask, you

1389
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 2: don't have to ask anything. If you don't want to,

1390
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 2: that's fine too, but we'll put this down there. Just

1391
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: line up and fire away, ask you to do it.

1392
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trip and get personal with Tie, really dig in.

1393
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: Smell ties. Don't smell ties hair you can?

1394
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 5: That?

1395
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: Will?

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01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,759
Speaker 1: That be a new tear on Patreon. Okay,