WEBVTT - CM Punk - What Happened? 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:06.640 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:15.520 Let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:19.640 here on Wrestling Observer Live. We're here every day Monday 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:22.840 through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific, sixth Eastern. 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:28.240 And yes, I am back here on the show. How 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:33.080 many times have I noted when I leave it all 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:38.479 goes down? And it did yet again, And I actually 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:40.599 have got my I have notes that I do for 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:42.239 this show every day, and I got all sorts of 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.519 notes here, and with the exception of the raw report, 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:51.040 I have no notes, zero, nothing. And I think everybody 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:54.640 knows the story of what happened this weekend, so I 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:55.880 don't know how much of it I need to go 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.080 over again, but I can. I can talk about it here. 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:02.640 If you would like to, uh lightheartedly talk about my 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:04.680 match with Filthy, we can do that later, but that's 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:07.560 not a top story. I have a few things I 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.160 want to say about the Scrum and CM Punk, which 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.880 we can also do later, but the first part of 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.760 the show will mostly just be talking about what happened. 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.640 If any of you have questions, You're welcome to ask questions. 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:24.040 If Mike ask questions, he's he's welcome to ask questions, 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:25.840 and I'll just I'll just answer because I think that 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:29.240 everybody knows the gist of the story, but I do 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:33.280 have I do have something I gotta say about the story. 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:35.959 When we come back from the break, I would like 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.520 everybody to, uh, I would like everybody listen to all 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:40.200 of the show today. That's kind of the gimmick for 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.360 a radio show. But listen to the first part of 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.560 the show for sure, and then if you'd like to 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:49.720 send in your questions, your comments, you're welcome to do that. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.800 The text message line four to five seven eight zero 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:56.880 seven five six six. That is four to five seven 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.480 eight zero seven five six six Brian and rustling observer 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.160 dot com. If you want to send an email, and 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.240 if you would like to follow me on Twitter, communicate 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:11.800 with me on Twitter at Brian Alvarez is the address. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.600 And so we sure got a lot to talk about today, 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.600 don't we. And we're gonna kick it off when we 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.880 come back from the break. Mike simper Viv will join us. 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:23.120 Hopefully I'll give him a chance to say something and uh, 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:52.679 that's it. Back in a moment Observer Live. Back in 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.639 the show, Brian Elba is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike 0:02:55.720 --> 0:03:00.760 simper Viv, also of Wrestling Observer at dot com. Hello, Mike, 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.200 hey boss, how you feeling? Can I can I have 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.040 the floor for a moment here. I got a few 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.800 things I gotta get off my chest. You may, you 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:10.760 may absolutely go ahead and listen. I just want to 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:15.079 say this first. Okay. We got chats on YouTube, we 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.840 got chats on Twitch, and you can also email me, 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:23.919 text me, Twitter whatever. I do not want to hear 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.160 anything about how this is a work. Do you all 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.320 understand I don't want to hear it. Okay, if you 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.760 say it on the chat, you're gonna be banned. If 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:32.840 I get an email or a text about it, I 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.040 mean I'm gonna delete it. And if you keep doing it, 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.480 I will block you. And I don't block nobody on Twitter. 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:44.320 But this is a blockable offense. It's not a work, okay, 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.200 and I listen. I've talked about this a million times. 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.320 I used to love doing after Dark. I used to 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.720 love talking about UFOs and big Foot and all this 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.520 and that. You know what there came a point where 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.600 this conspiracy radio wasn't fun anymore. And you all know why. 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:02.440 You all know the stories, Okay, conspiracy. Conspiracy is about 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.640 whether there was dead Ailiens and very fifty one. That's 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.240 kind of stuff is fun. Conspiracy is about you know, 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.800 these kids didn't die. That's not fun. And I don't 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.320 want to compare this to anything like that, but I'm 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.720 gonna make this comparison. Okay, this what happened, what happened 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.800 at the show was not like a legitimate tragedy. There 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.560 are legitimate tragedies that happened every day, okay, And if 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:27.159 you know anything about anything, every time there's a tragedy, 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.080 all of the conspiracy weirdos come out of the woodwork. 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.400 And what's the first thing they do. They look for 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:36.599 every inconsistency to find a way to prove that it 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:41.720 didn't actually happen. Or listen, I've heard every whatever about 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.840 what happened on Sunday night. Okay, Oh, David said the 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.560 cops were there? That no cop, Dude, we're reporting on 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:53.240 a story. People misspeak. Okay, there were no police there. 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.520 There were security guards. I saw them with my own eyes. 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:00.560 It happened, Okay, oh, I heard they were filming a documentary. 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.240 There's happened to be a fight. Okay, So if you're 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:07.720 filming a reality show by a w you don't think 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.920 they were gonna be cameras at all out filming. Of 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.200 course there were Now I actually don't know if there 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.000 were cameras there. But that's the latest conspiracy. Oh, there 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:21.680 were cameras filming a reality show, and they're just bro. 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:26.960 If they're filming a reality show, obviously they're gonna be 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:34.039 filming during all out and afterwards. Not to mention, you know, 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:37.080 there was another famous thing that happened where they're just 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.039 happened to be a documentary crew there. It was called 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.880 wrestling with shadows. But anyway, I don't want to hear it. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.040 I don't want to hear it. All of this is real. 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.520 I mean, you're gonna hear all about it. There's I 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:56.080 I listen. I can't say on. But there's gonna be lawsuits. 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.240 There's gonna be legal issues here. There's gonna be investigations. 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.200 This is not a work, so stop. Okay, that's number one. 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:12.919 Now what happened? Okay, there's two sides to every story. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:17.080 There was a match. Let see him Punk and John 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:21.039 Moxley and c him punk one okay see him. Punk 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:25.800 immediately went back to the presser and for those of 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:27.400 you that didn't see the first part of the pressor, 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.840 before any questions were even asked, nobody asked a question 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.960 about Cold Commands, the other conspiracy, oh some reporter. No 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:40.560 one asked anything. He started. He just went off, and 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.839 he went off about Cold Commander. He went off about 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:48.320 the e VPS, presumably the Young Bucks because he mentioned 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:52.440 Nick's name, and he mentioned Recida. He went off on 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:57.279 the Hangman. He went off on m JF, although he 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.600 was going to be feuding with mg So it's it's 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:02.880 hard to say if that was he's really upset about 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.320 MGF or not. You know, when I first heard it, 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.760 I thought, well, this is you know, he's feuding with MJF. 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.120 But he said things about MJF that have nothing to 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:14.200 do with with uh any sort of storyline. He called 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.200 him a prick who wouldn't listen to advice. I mean, 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:17.800 it was it was not the kind of thing you 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:19.600 would do to build up. So I don't know if 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.120 he's mad. I don't know if he's mad at m 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.840 JF or not. What I didn't find funny, and there 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.080 was not much funny about this situation. Is he was 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.480 mad at everybody, but he still thought Adam Cole was 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.680 the sweetest guy in the world, which I've been telling 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:36.520 everybody forever. The one universally loved guy is is Adam Cole. 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:43.480 But anyway, uh, then he left and he went to 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:48.640 his locker room. Okay. Now, from there there was an 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:52.200 altercation with the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega. This is 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:56.240 not in dispute, Okay. What is in dispute is who 0:07:56.400 --> 0:08:02.560 started it. Okay. Everybody agrees that see him, Punk punched 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:07.560 Matt Jackson. Okay. The there is one side that claims 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.920 that the Young Bucks walked into the room and Punk 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.160 just started swinging, okay, which I heard from multiple people. 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.600 There is the other side of the story that claims 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:23.880 that the Bucks barged in and we're aggressive, and Punk 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.320 responded in a way where he felt that he was 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:30.880 defending himself. Okay. It is not disputed that a steel 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:35.720 pulled the hair of Kenny Omega and bit him, and 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.040 it is not disputed that a steel through a chair 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:41.640 and hit Nick Jackson in the eye. Some people have 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.840 said that Nick Jackson was knocked out. Some people said 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.079 he wasn't. I don't know, but Nick Jackson was hitting 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:50.320 the eye with a steel chair. Okay, it is not 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:55.320 disputed that a Steel's wife was in the room with 0:08:55.440 --> 0:09:00.360 a broken foot on crutches, and so the a steel side, 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.599 his wife was in there with a broken foot, a 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:08.760 melee broke out. He did what he did. Obviously, the 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.280 other side is like, how can you bite somebody? There's 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:15.040 there's two sides to this. Okay. When it started, there 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.640 were only a few people in the room. By the 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.080 time it ended, and it did not end quickly. This 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.400 was not oh, you know, this guy grabbed this guy 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.240 who was immediately broken up. This thing went on for 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.920 a little while, and by the time it was broken up, 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:31.120 there were many many people in this room, so there 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:37.280 were many witnesses and obviously all of them are gonna 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:40.800 be questioned about what happened. And I don't know what 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.880 each individual person is going to do. I mean, if 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:47.240 something if something like this happens, I mean, the first 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:48.960 thing you would think in the real world is, well, 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.600 there's gonna be you know, this person may file suit, 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:54.920 this person whatever. I don't know what's gonna happen. Okay. 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:59.840 Now the other thing we don't know because no one 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:05.720 said anything officially. Okay, there's a Dynamite show tomorrow. I 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:10.520 don't know what's going to happen, but I I don't 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.000 think and I don't know this officially, but I do 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:20.240 not think that Punk, Ace, Nick, Matt Kenny. I don't 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.680 think any of them are going to be there, and 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.560 I don't know when any of them are gonna be back. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:26.720 I don't know who's gonna be back and who's not 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:30.880 going to be back. But it seems to me that 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:34.880 based on what happened, the individuals involved, which has in 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.120 fact been building up for a long time. We talked 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.160 about this, We talked about this for a long time. 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.040 This is what this was a long time coming. You know, 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.560 I I I've seen some it shouldn't be funny, but 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.160 you know, and I don't even want to get on 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.920 the guy because he is a big, big a W 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.000 fan and I'm a big a W fan, and we 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.760 all hope for the best. But you know, he was like, hey, 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:56.520 you know, I think if Punk ends up leaving, he'll 0:10:56.559 --> 0:11:02.480 drop the title. First I did laugh. I don't think. 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:06.400 I mean, this is a situation where I am not 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:10.160 sure that both sides are ever going to be in 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:11.960 the same company at the same side at the same 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.280 time again. I don't know that for sure, but it's 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:18.080 that volatile. It's not like, oh, you know, maybe they'll 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.720 all sit down and they'll do business together. Listen, anything 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:29.120 is possible. But I would be extremely surprised if these sides, 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.640 after what happened and the circumstances and all of this, 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.960 are ever working together again, or really I would be 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.040 I would be surprised, but it's just me. I have 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.120 no information. I would be surprised if all of them 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.120 are ever together in the company again at the same time. 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:49.080 Who stays, who goes? I have no idea, uh what 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:51.959 decision Tony Khan is gonna make there there. I woke 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:53.920 up this morning. There's all these rumors that people have 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.720 been suspended this and that. I cannot confirm any of that. 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.040 But obviously, if it came out in five minut it 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.040 they're all suspended, I it would not be surprising one bit. 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:07.240 I mean, it's a very serious situation, and I don't 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.160 know how Tony is gonna deal with this, because the 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:14.880 one thing we have learned is Tony likes everything planned out. 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:19.320 This is when this happens, etcetera, etcetera. And this is 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:23.760 a total day by day situation. They may be there tomorrow, 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:25.280 they may not. They may be there next week, they 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.679 may not. Some maybe back, some may not, all of them, 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.360 none of them. He is going to have to figure 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.080 out what to do, I would say, without any of 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.840 them until he knows what's going on. So anyway, we 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:44.559 can talk more after the break Observer Live. Oh hi, 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:50.439 I guess we're back. I let some air into this room. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.760 I was hot, all right, Okay, listen, I gotta say, 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.320 I gotta say something. I don't want this to be 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.680 about me, but I do have to address what CM 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:02.199 Punk said at the press sir. Okay, so, and I 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:03.599 have not watched it back, so if I get a 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:09.080 quote wrong, I'm sorry. All right, But he comes in, 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.679 he starts doing his deal, and then in the middle 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.559 of it, and I was behind some guy. I apologized 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.080 to whoever it was. And I don't mean this in 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:18.880 a negative way, but he had a big head. Okay, 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:20.840 So I really couldn't even see Punk, and Punk can 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:22.400 see me. I'm just looking at the back of this 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:26.480 guy's head. And listening to punk, and so all of 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:30.800 a sudden, Punk says, uh, Alvarez, you mad at me? 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.559 And I was like what? And I literally I went 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.320 like this around the guy's head and I looked at 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.000 Punk and I said, I'm not mad at you, and 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.640 he goes, all right, he chomps his muff and he goes, 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:46.520 I'm a little mad at you, and I was like what, Okay, 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.040 I kind of I sort of I didn't laugh because 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:50.800 I didn't want to make him really mad, but I 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:52.959 was kind of like what, So then he can't. He 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:55.760 just kept going I'm sitting there going, what's this bloke 0:13:55.840 --> 0:14:00.560 mad at me about? And uh. I Then a little 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.520 bit later, I don't remember the exact quote, but he 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:07.439 said something like, you know, I was watching a video 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.520 that you did, and uh, I'm a little upset that 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:14.480 you were incredulous that I had gone out there and 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:19.520 and uh and made those comments about Hangman. And I 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.720 kind of immediately knew what he was getting at here. 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:24.920 And so I don't know if it could be heard 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.480 because I didn't have a mic, but I said, I said, 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:31.920 a hold on a second, okay, I one when talking 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:35.800 about this situation, I said that a lot of people 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.800 in the locker room were upset with you about what 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:43.440 you had done, but I very specifically also said that 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:47.960 you had supporters who believed that what you did was 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:52.160 retaliation for something that hangman started. And he chomped his 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.280 muffin and he moved on, and that was absolutely audible 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:59.280 to everybody. Okay, so so you know, and then he 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.080 just kept kind of get going and moved on past 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.400 it or whatever. And you know, the time I was, 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:05.960 I was still kind of half laughing about it, because 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.840 I said, this is ridiculous, and you know, then of 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.120 course everything happened, and then I was kind of embroiled 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.640 in that and everything and then and then really it 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.080 was like later later on in the evening and kind 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.880 of the next day, I started thinking about it, and uh. 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.000 And ironically, if if he were sitting where you are 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:26.760 right now, I would say, uh, Phil, are you mad 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:30.080 at me? And regardless of what he would say, he'd 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.360 probably say yes. But regardless of what he would say, 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.520 I think I would say, well, I am never kind 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:38.520 of mad at you, because here's a deal. I don't 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.680 know what he did or didn't see, but what it 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:46.120 seems like to me is that he saw a clip 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:49.640 and uh, I don't even know what the clip was. 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.200 And you know, quite frankly, I talked about this a 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.240 million times, and maybe he saw a clip where he 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.280 really thought, Man, Brian is not being fair here, okay, 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:02.440 But I absolutely have been fair in all of this, 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.040 all of this, and he may not like it, but 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:10.520 here is the truth. I was incredulous when he came 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.440 out and he cut that promo on the Hangman. Now 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:20.760 I understand why he would be angry about that, okay, 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:26.800 because in his mind, he didn't start this. In his mind, 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:31.200 Hangman went out and started addressing things that he was 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:34.960 not happing. He's clearly. I mean that was months ago, 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:40.400 that was May, in its September. So in his mind, 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:44.160 this dude was out of line, he was unprofessional. And 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:49.480 what I did was merely give him a receipt. Okay. 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:54.280 Now I understand that that's what is in his mind. Okay. 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:58.560 In my mind, why was I more incredulous about what 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.000 happened with the Hangman? Why is not incredulous that he 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:07.080 had done that? Well? What did Hangman say? I mean, 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:11.199 I don't remember, but I I remember that he was 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:15.080 extremely vague. He did he did not mention cold Cabana. 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.399 He doesn't did not mention any of of you know 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.920 what everybody is, you know, been talking about for quite 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:25.720 a while now. He made comments about how you know, 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.920 you you claim to be a good guy workers rights, 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.760 but you're not a good guy. And I don't remember 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:35.119 what else what else he said, But you know the 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.639 fact of the matter is nine of the people watching 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.960 that on national television had absolutely no idea what the 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:45.040 Hangman was talking about. And I know that as a fan, 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.480 I knew what he was talking about. But the way 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.639 that they did their back and forth, I think Punk's 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:53.200 thing was I'm trying to build this pay per view 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.200 and you're trying to tear it down. And I'm sure 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:57.840 that's what he thought in his mind, and we can 0:17:57.880 --> 0:17:59.680 disagree on this. But when I when it was over, 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.080 I thought, dude, I can't wait to see this. But 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.600 it was over, I was like, man, you know that 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:09.840 sold this match to me? Okay, he thought otherwise, all right. Now. 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:14.000 When he came out and he got his receipt on 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:18.760 the Hangman, he did not make vague comments. Okay. What 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.280 he did was he came out and he challenged Hangman, 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.640 who was the last champion who had never gotten a rematch. 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.280 He challenged him to come down of the ring, knowing 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:31.200 he was not going to come out, and then essentially 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:35.080 ridiculing him, calling him a coward, and then moving on. Okay, 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.640 in his mind that was his receipt. I get that. 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:43.000 But when I watched it, I was like, listen, yes, 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:49.120 you both did the same thing, but nobody had any 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:52.159 idea what the Hangman was talking about. Whereas when you 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.520 did this, you buried the Hangman, you buried this character. 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.719 You made this character a coward. Okay, That to me 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:02.119 is a different thing. So yes, I was incredulous about 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:07.600 what Punk did, then about what Hangman did. But if 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:11.560 you listen to this show and not just clips on 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:17.040 the internet, I have always, I have always given the 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:19.560 two sides of the story. I have given the side 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:21.679 from the people who were angry about what see Him 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:23.840 Punk did, and I gave the side of the story 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.560 that said, you know what, you can be angry about it, 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:30.119 but Hangman started. I gave both sides of this, and 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.080 for whatever reason, and you know what, I was irritated. 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:35.560 But I'm not really that mad at Punk because the 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:37.880 fact of the matter is, I do a lot of shows, 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:40.879 and we have people that clip things up and they 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.600 and I'm not even mad. I'm not mad at Brian Rose. Okay, 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.320 this is just what happens. They clip things up and 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.600 they put them on YouTube, and if you only watch that, 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:53.520 you aren't getting the full story. And I do deal 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:57.200 with this every day. I deal with it every day 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.679 that people see a clip, they hear a clip, somebody 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.439 sends him a clip. It's out of context, it's not 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:05.639 the whole story, and they get mad about it. And 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:07.680 it happens all the time. And so in a sense, 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:09.919 I'm not really that anchor. He had punk about it 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:13.399 because he did what I hear about every day. But 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:17.879 I want to make it clear that I was not unfair. 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:22.720 This was not a situation where one side gave me 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.919 what they thought about it and I regurgitated it and 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.960 I didn't give the other side. I gave the I 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:32.640 gave both sides of of this this fight. I gave 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:35.040 both sides of the Hangman. I gave both sides of 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:38.520 punks promo on the Hangman. And I will say, even 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:40.280 though I have a little irritated a punk right now, 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:44.800 because I'm a fair man, you know, I would note 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:48.600 that dude, this guy in that match with Moxley, he 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:52.160 did a hell of a job. Okay, and I say 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:55.919 that because I also wrestled on Friday and uh this 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:59.320 this is not easy and uh see him. Punk was 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.080 coming off a added foot. Okay, this guy is coming 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:05.159 off a shattered foot. How much Cardio can you do 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:08.280 with a shattered foot? My shoulder hurt? Okay, but I 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:10.600 can do Cardio. This guy, I don't even know when 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:12.520 he could run. I don't know what this guy could 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:14.720 do for Cardio. This guy had to come back with 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:17.760 a foot that you know, whatever, whatever anybody says, I'm 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:19.439 sure in his mind he's not sure he's gonna make 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:22.400 through a match. He had to do a long pay 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:27.680 per view main event on a shattered a shattered foot 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:30.280 that he just got cleared. God only knows how much 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:32.640 Cardio and training he could do. He had to put 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:35.200 in time in front of his hometown in a title match. 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:37.440 And bro, I'm not taking anything away from Boxley either, 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:40.560 because that dude is the man. But dude, Punk did 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.960 an incredible job in that match. It was a great match, 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:49.080 and what happened afterwards. Kind of mad at him about 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:53.240 that as well, But that's just life, dude, that's my 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:55.320 side of the story. I don't know if you'll ever 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:57.199 hear it, but I wanted to get that out there 0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:59.480 because I was irritated with that that whole deal there, 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:03.439 because if I screw up, fine, bro, I screw up 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:08.040 all the time. But I don't like being Yeah whatever 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:14.159 that made me mad angry. Animals go mad, You're not. 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:16.680 You're not in the a W locker room. You're not 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:20.040 an animal going crazy and mad. But just to switch 0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:22.280 gears here a little bit, since you did actually have 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:26.119 a long, extended weekend that had more involved with it 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:31.359 than just Sunday night, how you feeling, how's your body? 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:35.840 How's your mind? How's your spirit? After being embarrassed by 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:41.720 Killer Kelly and filthy Tom Lawler, well, embarrass the right word, 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:46.480 by the way. Hey, listen, here's what I gotta say 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:52.760 about that. Okay, in storyline, I was humiliated. I was embarrassed. 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:57.080 In real life, I had the time of my life, dude, 0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:00.679 had a great time. I had so much fun. I 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.320 got a lot of really nice feedback. People seem to 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.800 really enjoy it. People like to see me get my 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:07.919 ass handed to me. You ever noticed that they like 0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:14.359 to see me get humiliated, beat up, slapped around, you 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:17.959 know what, and see him I went an irony by 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:20.000 the way and see him. Punk said when he was 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:23.240 leaving that presser, regardless of what you might think, I'm 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:26.440 actually a nice guy. Of course, when he said that, 0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:27.720