Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
Speaker 1: of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network.
Speaker 1: Let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez
Speaker 1: here on Wrestling Observer Live. We're here every day Monday
Speaker 1: through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific, sixth Eastern.
Speaker 1: And yes, I am back here on the show. How
Speaker 1: many times have I noted when I leave it all
Speaker 1: goes down? And it did yet again, And I actually
Speaker 1: have got my I have notes that I do for
Speaker 1: this show every day, and I got all sorts of
Speaker 1: notes here, and with the exception of the raw report,
Speaker 1: I have no notes, zero, nothing. And I think everybody
Speaker 1: knows the story of what happened this weekend, so I
Speaker 1: don't know how much of it I need to go
Speaker 1: over again, but I can. I can talk about it here.
Speaker 1: If you would like to, uh lightheartedly talk about my
Speaker 1: match with Filthy, we can do that later, but that's
Speaker 1: not a top story. I have a few things I
Speaker 1: want to say about the Scrum and CM Punk, which
Speaker 1: we can also do later, but the first part of
Speaker 1: the show will mostly just be talking about what happened.
Speaker 1: If any of you have questions, You're welcome to ask questions.
Speaker 1: If Mike ask questions, he's he's welcome to ask questions,
Speaker 1: and I'll just I'll just answer because I think that
Speaker 1: everybody knows the gist of the story, but I do
Speaker 1: have I do have something I gotta say about the story.
Speaker 1: When we come back from the break, I would like
Speaker 1: everybody to, uh, I would like everybody listen to all
Speaker 1: of the show today. That's kind of the gimmick for
Speaker 1: a radio show. But listen to the first part of
Speaker 1: the show for sure, and then if you'd like to
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Speaker 1: And so we sure got a lot to talk about today,
Speaker 1: don't we. And we're gonna kick it off when we
Speaker 1: come back from the break. Mike simper Viv will join us.
Speaker 1: Hopefully I'll give him a chance to say something and uh,
Speaker 1: that's it. Back in a moment Observer Live. Back in
Speaker 1: the show, Brian Elba is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike
Speaker 1: simper Viv, also of Wrestling Observer at dot com. Hello, Mike,
Speaker 1: hey boss, how you feeling? Can I can I have
Speaker 1: the floor for a moment here. I got a few
Speaker 1: things I gotta get off my chest. You may, you
Speaker 1: may absolutely go ahead and listen. I just want to
Speaker 1: say this first. Okay. We got chats on YouTube, we
Speaker 1: got chats on Twitch, and you can also email me,
Speaker 1: text me, Twitter whatever. I do not want to hear
Speaker 1: anything about how this is a work. Do you all
Speaker 1: understand I don't want to hear it. Okay, if you
Speaker 1: say it on the chat, you're gonna be banned. If
Speaker 1: I get an email or a text about it, I
Speaker 1: mean I'm gonna delete it. And if you keep doing it,
Speaker 1: I will block you. And I don't block nobody on Twitter.
Speaker 1: But this is a blockable offense. It's not a work, okay,
Speaker 1: and I listen. I've talked about this a million times.
Speaker 1: I used to love doing after Dark. I used to
Speaker 1: love talking about UFOs and big Foot and all this
Speaker 1: and that. You know what there came a point where
Speaker 1: this conspiracy radio wasn't fun anymore. And you all know why.
Speaker 1: You all know the stories, Okay, conspiracy. Conspiracy is about
Speaker 1: whether there was dead Ailiens and very fifty one. That's
Speaker 1: kind of stuff is fun. Conspiracy is about you know,
Speaker 1: these kids didn't die. That's not fun. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to compare this to anything like that, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make this comparison. Okay, this what happened, what happened
Speaker 1: at the show was not like a legitimate tragedy. There
Speaker 1: are legitimate tragedies that happened every day, okay, And if
Speaker 1: you know anything about anything, every time there's a tragedy,
Speaker 1: all of the conspiracy weirdos come out of the woodwork.
Speaker 1: And what's the first thing they do. They look for
Speaker 1: every inconsistency to find a way to prove that it
Speaker 1: didn't actually happen. Or listen, I've heard every whatever about
Speaker 1: what happened on Sunday night. Okay, Oh, David said the
Speaker 1: cops were there? That no cop, Dude, we're reporting on
Speaker 1: a story. People misspeak. Okay, there were no police there.
Speaker 1: There were security guards. I saw them with my own eyes.
Speaker 1: It happened, Okay, oh, I heard they were filming a documentary.
Speaker 1: There's happened to be a fight. Okay, So if you're
Speaker 1: filming a reality show by a w you don't think
Speaker 1: they were gonna be cameras at all out filming. Of
Speaker 1: course there were Now I actually don't know if there
Speaker 1: were cameras there. But that's the latest conspiracy. Oh, there
Speaker 1: were cameras filming a reality show, and they're just bro.
Speaker 1: If they're filming a reality show, obviously they're gonna be
Speaker 1: filming during all out and afterwards. Not to mention, you know,
Speaker 1: there was another famous thing that happened where they're just
Speaker 1: happened to be a documentary crew there. It was called
Speaker 1: wrestling with shadows. But anyway, I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. All of this is real.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna hear all about it. There's I
Speaker 1: I listen. I can't say on. But there's gonna be lawsuits.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be legal issues here. There's gonna be investigations.
Speaker 1: This is not a work, so stop. Okay, that's number one.
Speaker 1: Now what happened? Okay, there's two sides to every story.
Speaker 1: There was a match. Let see him Punk and John
Speaker 1: Moxley and c him punk one okay see him. Punk
Speaker 1: immediately went back to the presser and for those of
Speaker 1: you that didn't see the first part of the pressor,
Speaker 1: before any questions were even asked, nobody asked a question
Speaker 1: about Cold Commands, the other conspiracy, oh some reporter. No
Speaker 1: one asked anything. He started. He just went off, and
Speaker 1: he went off about Cold Commander. He went off about
Speaker 1: the e VPS, presumably the Young Bucks because he mentioned
Speaker 1: Nick's name, and he mentioned Recida. He went off on
Speaker 1: the Hangman. He went off on m JF, although he
Speaker 1: was going to be feuding with mg So it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to say if that was he's really upset about
Speaker 1: MGF or not. You know, when I first heard it,
Speaker 1: I thought, well, this is you know, he's feuding with MJF.
Speaker 1: But he said things about MJF that have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with with uh any sort of storyline. He called
Speaker 1: him a prick who wouldn't listen to advice. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was it was not the kind of thing you
Speaker 1: would do to build up. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's mad. I don't know if he's mad at m
Speaker 1: JF or not. What I didn't find funny, and there
Speaker 1: was not much funny about this situation. Is he was
Speaker 1: mad at everybody, but he still thought Adam Cole was
Speaker 1: the sweetest guy in the world, which I've been telling
Speaker 1: everybody forever. The one universally loved guy is is Adam Cole.
Speaker 1: But anyway, uh, then he left and he went to
Speaker 1: his locker room. Okay. Now, from there there was an
Speaker 1: altercation with the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega. This is
Speaker 1: not in dispute, Okay. What is in dispute is who
Speaker 1: started it. Okay. Everybody agrees that see him, Punk punched
Speaker 1: Matt Jackson. Okay. The there is one side that claims
Speaker 1: that the Young Bucks walked into the room and Punk
Speaker 1: just started swinging, okay, which I heard from multiple people.
Speaker 1: There is the other side of the story that claims
Speaker 1: that the Bucks barged in and we're aggressive, and Punk
Speaker 1: responded in a way where he felt that he was
Speaker 1: defending himself. Okay. It is not disputed that a steel
Speaker 1: pulled the hair of Kenny Omega and bit him, and
Speaker 1: it is not disputed that a steel through a chair
Speaker 1: and hit Nick Jackson in the eye. Some people have
Speaker 1: said that Nick Jackson was knocked out. Some people said
Speaker 1: he wasn't. I don't know, but Nick Jackson was hitting
Speaker 1: the eye with a steel chair. Okay, it is not
Speaker 1: disputed that a Steel's wife was in the room with
Speaker 1: a broken foot on crutches, and so the a steel side,
Speaker 1: his wife was in there with a broken foot, a
Speaker 1: melee broke out. He did what he did. Obviously, the
Speaker 1: other side is like, how can you bite somebody? There's
Speaker 1: there's two sides to this. Okay. When it started, there
Speaker 1: were only a few people in the room. By the
Speaker 1: time it ended, and it did not end quickly. This
Speaker 1: was not oh, you know, this guy grabbed this guy
Speaker 1: who was immediately broken up. This thing went on for
Speaker 1: a little while, and by the time it was broken up,
Speaker 1: there were many many people in this room, so there
Speaker 1: were many witnesses and obviously all of them are gonna
Speaker 1: be questioned about what happened. And I don't know what
Speaker 1: each individual person is going to do. I mean, if
Speaker 1: something if something like this happens, I mean, the first
Speaker 1: thing you would think in the real world is, well,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be you know, this person may file suit,
Speaker 1: this person whatever. I don't know what's gonna happen. Okay.
Speaker 1: Now the other thing we don't know because no one
Speaker 1: said anything officially. Okay, there's a Dynamite show tomorrow. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen, but I I don't
Speaker 1: think and I don't know this officially, but I do
Speaker 1: not think that Punk, Ace, Nick, Matt Kenny. I don't
Speaker 1: think any of them are going to be there, and
Speaker 1: I don't know when any of them are gonna be back.
Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna be back and who's not
Speaker 1: going to be back. But it seems to me that
Speaker 1: based on what happened, the individuals involved, which has in
Speaker 1: fact been building up for a long time. We talked
Speaker 1: about this, We talked about this for a long time.
Speaker 1: This is what this was a long time coming. You know,
Speaker 1: I I I've seen some it shouldn't be funny, but
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't even want to get on
Speaker 1: the guy because he is a big, big a W
Speaker 1: fan and I'm a big a W fan, and we
Speaker 1: all hope for the best. But you know, he was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I think if Punk ends up leaving, he'll
Speaker 1: drop the title. First I did laugh. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a situation where I am not
Speaker 1: sure that both sides are ever going to be in
Speaker 1: the same company at the same side at the same
Speaker 1: time again. I don't know that for sure, but it's
Speaker 1: that volatile. It's not like, oh, you know, maybe they'll
Speaker 1: all sit down and they'll do business together. Listen, anything
Speaker 1: is possible. But I would be extremely surprised if these sides,
Speaker 1: after what happened and the circumstances and all of this,
Speaker 1: are ever working together again, or really I would be
Speaker 1: I would be surprised, but it's just me. I have
Speaker 1: no information. I would be surprised if all of them
Speaker 1: are ever together in the company again at the same time.
Speaker 1: Who stays, who goes? I have no idea, uh what
Speaker 1: decision Tony Khan is gonna make there there. I woke
Speaker 1: up this morning. There's all these rumors that people have
Speaker 1: been suspended this and that. I cannot confirm any of that.
Speaker 1: But obviously, if it came out in five minut it
Speaker 1: they're all suspended, I it would not be surprising one bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a very serious situation, and I don't
Speaker 1: know how Tony is gonna deal with this, because the
Speaker 1: one thing we have learned is Tony likes everything planned out.
Speaker 1: This is when this happens, etcetera, etcetera. And this is
Speaker 1: a total day by day situation. They may be there tomorrow,
Speaker 1: they may not. They may be there next week, they
Speaker 1: may not. Some maybe back, some may not, all of them,
Speaker 1: none of them. He is going to have to figure
Speaker 1: out what to do, I would say, without any of
Speaker 1: them until he knows what's going on. So anyway, we
Speaker 1: can talk more after the break Observer Live. Oh hi,
Speaker 1: I guess we're back. I let some air into this room.
Speaker 1: I was hot, all right, Okay, listen, I gotta say,
Speaker 1: I gotta say something. I don't want this to be
Speaker 1: about me, but I do have to address what CM
Speaker 1: Punk said at the press sir. Okay, so, and I
Speaker 1: have not watched it back, so if I get a
Speaker 1: quote wrong, I'm sorry. All right, But he comes in,
Speaker 1: he starts doing his deal, and then in the middle
Speaker 1: of it, and I was behind some guy. I apologized
Speaker 1: to whoever it was. And I don't mean this in
Speaker 1: a negative way, but he had a big head. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I really couldn't even see Punk, and Punk can
Speaker 1: see me. I'm just looking at the back of this
Speaker 1: guy's head. And listening to punk, and so all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, Punk says, uh, Alvarez, you mad at me?
Speaker 1: And I was like what? And I literally I went
Speaker 1: like this around the guy's head and I looked at
Speaker 1: Punk and I said, I'm not mad at you, and
Speaker 1: he goes, all right, he chomps his muff and he goes,
Speaker 1: I'm a little mad at you, and I was like what, Okay,
Speaker 1: I kind of I sort of I didn't laugh because
Speaker 1: I didn't want to make him really mad, but I
Speaker 1: was kind of like what, So then he can't. He
Speaker 1: just kept going I'm sitting there going, what's this bloke
Speaker 1: mad at me about? And uh. I Then a little
Speaker 1: bit later, I don't remember the exact quote, but he
Speaker 1: said something like, you know, I was watching a video
Speaker 1: that you did, and uh, I'm a little upset that
Speaker 1: you were incredulous that I had gone out there and
Speaker 1: and uh and made those comments about Hangman. And I
Speaker 1: kind of immediately knew what he was getting at here.
Speaker 1: And so I don't know if it could be heard
Speaker 1: because I didn't have a mic, but I said, I said,
Speaker 1: a hold on a second, okay, I one when talking
Speaker 1: about this situation, I said that a lot of people
Speaker 1: in the locker room were upset with you about what
Speaker 1: you had done, but I very specifically also said that
Speaker 1: you had supporters who believed that what you did was
Speaker 1: retaliation for something that hangman started. And he chomped his
Speaker 1: muffin and he moved on, and that was absolutely audible
Speaker 1: to everybody. Okay, so so you know, and then he
Speaker 1: just kept kind of get going and moved on past
Speaker 1: it or whatever. And you know, the time I was,
Speaker 1: I was still kind of half laughing about it, because
Speaker 1: I said, this is ridiculous, and you know, then of
Speaker 1: course everything happened, and then I was kind of embroiled
Speaker 1: in that and everything and then and then really it
Speaker 1: was like later later on in the evening and kind
Speaker 1: of the next day, I started thinking about it, and uh.
Speaker 1: And ironically, if if he were sitting where you are
Speaker 1: right now, I would say, uh, Phil, are you mad
Speaker 1: at me? And regardless of what he would say, he'd
Speaker 1: probably say yes. But regardless of what he would say,
Speaker 1: I think I would say, well, I am never kind
Speaker 1: of mad at you, because here's a deal. I don't
Speaker 1: know what he did or didn't see, but what it
Speaker 1: seems like to me is that he saw a clip
Speaker 1: and uh, I don't even know what the clip was.
Speaker 1: And you know, quite frankly, I talked about this a
Speaker 1: million times, and maybe he saw a clip where he
Speaker 1: really thought, Man, Brian is not being fair here, okay,
Speaker 1: But I absolutely have been fair in all of this,
Speaker 1: all of this, and he may not like it, but
Speaker 1: here is the truth. I was incredulous when he came
Speaker 1: out and he cut that promo on the Hangman. Now
Speaker 1: I understand why he would be angry about that, okay,
Speaker 1: because in his mind, he didn't start this. In his mind,
Speaker 1: Hangman went out and started addressing things that he was
Speaker 1: not happing. He's clearly. I mean that was months ago,
Speaker 1: that was May, in its September. So in his mind,
Speaker 1: this dude was out of line, he was unprofessional. And
Speaker 1: what I did was merely give him a receipt. Okay.
Speaker 1: Now I understand that that's what is in his mind. Okay.
Speaker 1: In my mind, why was I more incredulous about what
Speaker 1: happened with the Hangman? Why is not incredulous that he
Speaker 1: had done that? Well? What did Hangman say? I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I I remember that he was
Speaker 1: extremely vague. He did he did not mention cold Cabana.
Speaker 1: He doesn't did not mention any of of you know
Speaker 1: what everybody is, you know, been talking about for quite
Speaker 1: a while now. He made comments about how you know,
Speaker 1: you you claim to be a good guy workers rights,
Speaker 1: but you're not a good guy. And I don't remember
Speaker 1: what else what else he said, But you know the
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is nine of the people watching
Speaker 1: that on national television had absolutely no idea what the
Speaker 1: Hangman was talking about. And I know that as a fan,
Speaker 1: I knew what he was talking about. But the way
Speaker 1: that they did their back and forth, I think Punk's
Speaker 1: thing was I'm trying to build this pay per view
Speaker 1: and you're trying to tear it down. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: that's what he thought in his mind, and we can
Speaker 1: disagree on this. But when I when it was over,
Speaker 1: I thought, dude, I can't wait to see this. But
Speaker 1: it was over, I was like, man, you know that
Speaker 1: sold this match to me? Okay, he thought otherwise, all right. Now.
Speaker 1: When he came out and he got his receipt on
Speaker 1: the Hangman, he did not make vague comments. Okay. What
Speaker 1: he did was he came out and he challenged Hangman,
Speaker 1: who was the last champion who had never gotten a rematch.
Speaker 1: He challenged him to come down of the ring, knowing
Speaker 1: he was not going to come out, and then essentially
Speaker 1: ridiculing him, calling him a coward, and then moving on. Okay,
Speaker 1: in his mind that was his receipt. I get that.
Speaker 1: But when I watched it, I was like, listen, yes,
Speaker 1: you both did the same thing, but nobody had any
Speaker 1: idea what the Hangman was talking about. Whereas when you
Speaker 1: did this, you buried the Hangman, you buried this character.
Speaker 1: You made this character a coward. Okay, That to me
Speaker 1: is a different thing. So yes, I was incredulous about
Speaker 1: what Punk did, then about what Hangman did. But if
Speaker 1: you listen to this show and not just clips on
Speaker 1: the internet, I have always, I have always given the
Speaker 1: two sides of the story. I have given the side
Speaker 1: from the people who were angry about what see Him
Speaker 1: Punk did, and I gave the side of the story
Speaker 1: that said, you know what, you can be angry about it,
Speaker 1: but Hangman started. I gave both sides of this, and
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, and you know what, I was irritated.
Speaker 1: But I'm not really that mad at Punk because the
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is, I do a lot of shows,
Speaker 1: and we have people that clip things up and they
Speaker 1: and I'm not even mad. I'm not mad at Brian Rose. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is just what happens. They clip things up and
Speaker 1: they put them on YouTube, and if you only watch that,
Speaker 1: you aren't getting the full story. And I do deal
Speaker 1: with this every day. I deal with it every day
Speaker 1: that people see a clip, they hear a clip, somebody
Speaker 1: sends him a clip. It's out of context, it's not
Speaker 1: the whole story, and they get mad about it. And
Speaker 1: it happens all the time. And so in a sense,
Speaker 1: I'm not really that anchor. He had punk about it
Speaker 1: because he did what I hear about every day. But
Speaker 1: I want to make it clear that I was not unfair.
Speaker 1: This was not a situation where one side gave me
Speaker 1: what they thought about it and I regurgitated it and
Speaker 1: I didn't give the other side. I gave the I
Speaker 1: gave both sides of of this this fight. I gave
Speaker 1: both sides of the Hangman. I gave both sides of
Speaker 1: punks promo on the Hangman. And I will say, even
Speaker 1: though I have a little irritated a punk right now,
Speaker 1: because I'm a fair man, you know, I would note
Speaker 1: that dude, this guy in that match with Moxley, he
Speaker 1: did a hell of a job. Okay, and I say
Speaker 1: that because I also wrestled on Friday and uh this
Speaker 1: this is not easy and uh see him. Punk was
Speaker 1: coming off a added foot. Okay, this guy is coming
Speaker 1: off a shattered foot. How much Cardio can you do
Speaker 1: with a shattered foot? My shoulder hurt? Okay, but I
Speaker 1: can do Cardio. This guy, I don't even know when
Speaker 1: he could run. I don't know what this guy could
Speaker 1: do for Cardio. This guy had to come back with
Speaker 1: a foot that you know, whatever, whatever anybody says, I'm
Speaker 1: sure in his mind he's not sure he's gonna make
Speaker 1: through a match. He had to do a long pay
Speaker 1: per view main event on a shattered a shattered foot
Speaker 1: that he just got cleared. God only knows how much
Speaker 1: Cardio and training he could do. He had to put
Speaker 1: in time in front of his hometown in a title match.
Speaker 1: And bro, I'm not taking anything away from Boxley either,
Speaker 1: because that dude is the man. But dude, Punk did
Speaker 1: an incredible job in that match. It was a great match,
Speaker 1: and what happened afterwards. Kind of mad at him about
Speaker 1: that as well, But that's just life, dude, that's my
Speaker 1: side of the story. I don't know if you'll ever
Speaker 1: hear it, but I wanted to get that out there
Speaker 1: because I was irritated with that that whole deal there,
Speaker 1: because if I screw up, fine, bro, I screw up
Speaker 1: all the time. But I don't like being Yeah whatever
Speaker 1: that made me mad angry. Animals go mad, You're not.
Speaker 1: You're not in the a W locker room. You're not
Speaker 1: an animal going crazy and mad. But just to switch
Speaker 1: gears here a little bit, since you did actually have
Speaker 1: a long, extended weekend that had more involved with it
Speaker 1: than just Sunday night, how you feeling, how's your body?
Speaker 1: How's your mind? How's your spirit? After being embarrassed by
Speaker 1: Killer Kelly and filthy Tom Lawler, well, embarrass the right word,
Speaker 1: by the way. Hey, listen, here's what I gotta say
Speaker 1: about that. Okay, in storyline, I was humiliated. I was embarrassed.
Speaker 1: In real life, I had the time of my life, dude,
Speaker 1: had a great time. I had so much fun. I
Speaker 1: got a lot of really nice feedback. People seem to
Speaker 1: really enjoy it. People like to see me get my
Speaker 1: ass handed to me. You ever noticed that they like
Speaker 1: to see me get humiliated, beat up, slapped around, you
Speaker 1: know what, and see him I went an irony by
Speaker 1: the way and see him. Punk said when he was
Speaker 1: leaving that presser, regardless of what you might think, I'm
Speaker 1: actually a nice guy. Of course, when he said that,
Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, well, anybody has to
Speaker 1: say they're nice guys and a nice guy. I actually
Speaker 1: have a nice guy. Damn it. Ah. I just want
Speaker 1: to give you guys all what you want, and I
Speaker 1: hope you liked it. But I like the full I
Speaker 1: need to see more of her when we see Billy
Speaker 1: on the scene. I like Bully Starks. You gave her
Speaker 1: that attitude to go out there and and go head
Speaker 1: up with Killer Kelly while you were well. I think
Speaker 1: I think the reason she was such a bully when
Speaker 1: she came out so angry was because they hit California
Speaker 1: Love and we didn't know if it was gonna be
Speaker 1: like we were each going to get our theme or
Speaker 1: just the team. And before we went have the crinchis
Speaker 1: do I get my music? And I quickly asked it
Speaker 1: was like no, we're both going after this. I think
Speaker 1: she was pretty irritated, but hey, we gotta get some
Speaker 1: shoot emotion in these matches. Back in a moment of
Speaker 1: river life. Back on the show, Resting Observer A Live,
Speaker 1: I'm here, some geek, listen, I'm back here on the show.
Speaker 1: But maybe you had to go throw a chair or something.
Speaker 1: I get to go show the door because I have
Speaker 1: to let air in after every segment because I generate
Speaker 1: so much heat. But anyway, yeah, we talked about all
Speaker 1: the shows with Mike yesterday. We can talk about Raw tomorrow.
Speaker 1: There wasn't much dude except Bronze Roman showed up and literally,
Speaker 1: as I said, I don't want to be that guy,
Speaker 1: but I told you all, as far as giants go,
Speaker 1: he's miles miles above any other giant. They've got low prey.
Speaker 1: It is low praise. But you know what, like I said,
Speaker 1: when one of those other giants can step up get
Speaker 1: rid of the gun. We'll not get rid of him,
Speaker 1: but Tim the next here whatever he has fired. But
Speaker 1: when that day comes, but until then, he's miles better
Speaker 1: than Omas, I'd rather see him running dudes over and
Speaker 1: or missing has happened last night, shankly out there dancing,
Speaker 1: So anyway, well you know what could have been. You
Speaker 1: know a lot better though, since they do like using
Speaker 1: enhancement talent every once in a while. I mean, we
Speaker 1: just saw Danny Mo and two other ladies on SmackDown
Speaker 1: out all that long ago. I mean we're on Rawle
Speaker 1: last week. Why does he have to destroy the entire
Speaker 1: tag team division? With all of the changes have been
Speaker 1: made to ww E. One of the things that they
Speaker 1: love to do is massacre a bunch of tag teams
Speaker 1: or massacre a bunch of people to try to like
Speaker 1: bring somebody up on a higher level. And it's great
Speaker 1: that Braun came back, that you have him back with
Speaker 1: the impact, have him destroyed like ninety other people instead
Speaker 1: of the very few tag teams that you actually have.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm gonna move on, but I
Speaker 1: do just want to say, because I am always a
Speaker 1: fair man, everybody making fun of Braun for running and
Speaker 1: falling down. It wasn't his fault. He was supposed to
Speaker 1: be spearing Chad Gable, and for reasons I cannot explain,
Speaker 1: Chad Gable leaped and sat on the apron and so
Speaker 1: poor Braun speared the air. And I still I still
Speaker 1: have no no, you're trying to spear the guy. But
Speaker 1: the guy vanished in mid air and so we just
Speaker 1: like slid in the first base or home plate or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then everyone makes one of Braun. It is like,
Speaker 1: this was not bronze fault. Okay, Braun will make a
Speaker 1: lot of mistakes. You can laugh at or whatever if
Speaker 1: you really want to, if you're mean unlike me, but
Speaker 1: that was not that was not his fault. Now said,
Speaker 1: there's red ass pants weren't too tight. Then we'll do
Speaker 1: a Q and A. If you have questions about anything
Speaker 1: this weekend. I can answer some of those if you
Speaker 1: want to. If you don't find but not, I could
Speaker 1: talk about raw. You're opening yourself up to the You
Speaker 1: could have talked about raw and said you're saying, send
Speaker 1: me some questions knowing damn well, some of the questions
Speaker 1: that you're gonna get. I don't have to read them,
Speaker 1: that's true, but you're gonna get them, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: get into your brain and they're gonna gonna think about them.
Speaker 1: So this person here says what I would do is
Speaker 1: gives see them punk two options. Come to Grand Slam,
Speaker 1: drop the title MJF, do business, leave for a bit
Speaker 1: cool down, apologize to the roster when ready returned, ready
Speaker 1: to be a team player or get out well as
Speaker 1: a fair man. Here's the deal. They gotta find out
Speaker 1: what happened, because this thing that you have written is
Speaker 1: presuming that all of this, the whole fight and everything
Speaker 1: was Punk's fault, and you know what, maybe it was,
Speaker 1: but there's a reason they are investigating everything, and they
Speaker 1: are talking to everybody that witnessed it, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people, and they are going to try to
Speaker 1: piece together what happened, who is responded sible, and then
Speaker 1: they will decide what moves to make. And we don't know,
Speaker 1: We don't know anything until that's all done, and it
Speaker 1: does not look like it's going to be all tidy
Speaker 1: and cleaned up before Tomorrow's Dynamite for anybody that's helping
Speaker 1: for that. That is not going to be the case
Speaker 1: period point where it cannot even issue suspensions yet, which
Speaker 1: they have been talked about, and I know, you know
Speaker 1: Wrestling news Brian last we heard about suspensions and things
Speaker 1: like that yesterday the same way Brian had. It is
Speaker 1: very tough to try to confirm any of that, especially
Speaker 1: because nothing has been laid out as far as there's
Speaker 1: a lot that still needs to be laid out, including
Speaker 1: who was in the room when, who did what when,
Speaker 1: and all of that. So for anybody that's looking to
Speaker 1: have all of this all cleaned up or looking at
Speaker 1: references made during Dynamite tomorrow, I would say, right now,
Speaker 1: you're going to be disappointed, all right. To fill in
Speaker 1: some other gaps from things that I seen on the internet.
Speaker 1: I do not know how injured c him Punk is
Speaker 1: right now, but he is injured. And I actually talked
Speaker 1: about this Sunday night on the Observer radio show, and
Speaker 1: somehow this has now become he got hurt during the fight. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: maybe he actually did also get hurt during the fight,
Speaker 1: but the injury that see him Punk sustained, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: happened during the match on Sunday, and uh, I don't
Speaker 1: remember the spot, but I was, I was, I was
Speaker 1: in the front row, and uh, he did some spot
Speaker 1: that did not involve his elbow, and then he grabbed
Speaker 1: his elbow and then he was he was kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, messing with his elbow for the rest of
Speaker 1: the match. So uh, and I was told that, you know,
Speaker 1: and you could see in the in the press continl
Speaker 1: like he came in and he was doing something with
Speaker 1: his elbow, so he was hurt in the match. I
Speaker 1: don't know the severity of it, uh, And you know,
Speaker 1: there you can do all sorts of speculation, like, you know,
Speaker 1: did he think he was seriously injured and so decided
Speaker 1: to do what he did at the press conference. I
Speaker 1: believe that you know, whether he was injured or not,
Speaker 1: like he was, he had a plan going into that
Speaker 1: press conference. But you know, so the story that he
Speaker 1: was injured during the fight could have been another injury
Speaker 1: or whatever. But he was for sure injured during the match.
Speaker 1: I don't know how badly he was injured, but he
Speaker 1: was in the trainer's room afterwards, so that happened. And
Speaker 1: you know, I do want to say I don't want
Speaker 1: to say one thing that has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: any of this, but does have to do with the show.
Speaker 1: So I was at ringside and I got to take
Speaker 1: a real good look at everything, obviously, And one thing
Speaker 1: that nobody ever talks about is, uh, the cameraman. And
Speaker 1: I know that sometimes you'll watch in a w show
Speaker 1: and you'll see that, you know, somebody does some dive
Speaker 1: and they miss it, and the first thing people say
Speaker 1: is the quote camera work. Okay, if you're watching the
Speaker 1: show and somebody doesn't dive and you don't see it.
Speaker 1: I realized that people talk about the camera work and
Speaker 1: and this and that, but it's not It's not the
Speaker 1: camera guys, it's whoever is responsible for pushing the button
Speaker 1: in the back to choose whichever camera. These camera guys,
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of them, and man, when that show
Speaker 1: is over, I was like, these guys get I don't
Speaker 1: want to say they get no respect, but they don't
Speaker 1: get enough credit. These dudes have got these big giant
Speaker 1: cameras on their shoulders, and bro, they're running and when
Speaker 1: the when the show was over, you know, see him
Speaker 1: punky his prom and he goes you know, I uh,
Speaker 1: I know. These seventy two hours shows are pretty long,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna make it quick. Which was interesting, by
Speaker 1: the way, But you know, we we talked about these shows,
Speaker 1: and we talked about us watching them, and man, that
Speaker 1: was a long show. And we talked about, oh, man,
Speaker 1: you know, this guy's in the main event and we
Speaker 1: three and a half four hours to go out there,
Speaker 1: and then whatever, Dude, you realize that these camera guys,
Speaker 1: they go out there when that like FBI thing goes
Speaker 1: up on the screen actually before that, because they're doing
Speaker 1: the buy in, and dude, they're out there the whole time,
Speaker 1: not like doing a match, a long match and going
Speaker 1: to the back, not waiting and coming out and doing
Speaker 1: a long they're out there the whole time, and they're
Speaker 1: running and they're jumping to get shots, and they're up
Speaker 1: and down and up on the apron and down the
Speaker 1: steps and blah blah blah. And one guy, I swear
Speaker 1: to god, the show is over and the screen goes
Speaker 1: to black, and this dude just put down his camera,
Speaker 1: just dropped to his knees, so tired, And I just
Speaker 1: want to put these guys over because they are unsung
Speaker 1: heroes of this. This a w n w W E,
Speaker 1: And not only do not get enough credit, but they
Speaker 1: get a lot of blame and it's not their fault.
Speaker 1: So shout out the folks operating those cameras and all
Speaker 1: of the major organizations. They are unsung heroes of all
Speaker 1: of this. Hopefully they've gotten lighter in the UH in
Speaker 1: the last few years, because I remember that about fifteen
Speaker 1: years ago, those things were heavy and it is a
Speaker 1: pain to be running around with that thing on your shoulder,
Speaker 1: use those things before, and the tape is incredibly expensive,
Speaker 1: at least it used to be. I know, you remember
Speaker 1: those days. The other one. I always like, like the
Speaker 1: camera guys are all doing their job, but then there's
Speaker 1: the they got a couple of security dudes, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know Atlas, it's always funny because like, okay, if if,
Speaker 1: if if I had to go somewhere, I need to
Speaker 1: back up. You know, who am I gonna choose? You know,
Speaker 1: with the Diaz brothers, tall skinny blokes, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: and of course their security guards because it's wrestling, and
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, you want to intimidate the geeks
Speaker 1: that hoped the rail. These dudes are gigantic and I
Speaker 1: don't know what their names are, but like there's just
Speaker 1: one guy. He's like the size of of the Warlord.
Speaker 1: And not only is he gigantic, but like he's got
Speaker 1: chains like from here all the way up his arm,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, how would you even grab somebody? I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got to have like eighty five pounds on each
Speaker 1: wrist and he's just out there all looking mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but does he have any lateral movement whatsoever? Can you
Speaker 1: juke that guy out and you just kind of like
Speaker 1: stiffly like, I mean, he's there for a reason, bro,
Speaker 1: He's there for a reason. And I think it's more
Speaker 1: like you look at that guy, You're like, ain't jump
Speaker 1: in the rail. Well that's what you hope, but then
Speaker 1: you gotta have a guy like you behind him where
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, I got past the big guy
Speaker 1: and then you like choke him out and tie him
Speaker 1: up in a knot or something like that, or the
Speaker 1: cash wheel or method just punched him right in the face.
Speaker 1: Yea almost got killed by Phoenix. He got thrown in
Speaker 1: the barricade right by me, and actually thought of like
Speaker 1: selling like the guard rail hit my face. But you
Speaker 1: got rock kicked by Athena? Were you that wasn't on
Speaker 1: your side? Was it gotch hit hard? What else happened
Speaker 1: from the life? What's your best personal takeaway? What was
Speaker 1: an actual positive? We've heard about all the negative ones,
Speaker 1: You've gotten your cajones busted by everybody who heard the
Speaker 1: punk thing. What can you take away from this weekend?
Speaker 1: What knowledge can you part upon us? What positivity from
Speaker 1: the life of Brian Alvrets through the entire trip positivity. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: I mean I had a great time until everything went down.
Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun at the show on
Speaker 1: Friday night and we went to a Brazilian steakhouse rice
Speaker 1: we all sat around, Oh guys, get out of here,
Speaker 1: you geeks. Anytime someone makes a comment about the white
Speaker 1: rice is you don't know anything about me, trust me,
Speaker 1: and anybody who was there will back up how much
Speaker 1: I can eat white rice or not. But anyway, I
Speaker 1: had funded that, and then we all we all watched
Speaker 1: the Clash, which was an awesome show Clash at the Castle,
Speaker 1: and I was gonna watch the first part of the
Speaker 1: n x T show before a w but it was
Speaker 1: I was tired and I would rather FaceTime my children.
Speaker 1: So I didn't see any of that. But I heard
Speaker 1: that that was heard. That was pretty good, And you know,
Speaker 1: I had. I had so much fun to the actual show,
Speaker 1: like life, shows are fun, and got to see all
Speaker 1: sorts of great people and meet met people, and the
Speaker 1: Q and A was great. Man, I had the time
Speaker 1: of my life until Sunday night, and it was all, Man,
Speaker 1: it was all downhill from there. It was all downhill
Speaker 1: from there. And it's not is it really that big?
Speaker 1: Of a negative or is it just the the annoyance
Speaker 1: and the relentless annoyingness that people bring to you over this,
Speaker 1: Because again it was very clear I talked about on
Speaker 1: the show yesterday. I didn't play the of you and
Speaker 1: him talking with each other, but I it was audible
Speaker 1: with you talking back over No. I explained the story,
Speaker 1: and you, you know, you weren't in shock like Nick
Speaker 1: Holisman a lot of other people when Punk were firing back.
Speaker 1: You actually said it very quickly back to him, which
Speaker 1: seemed to kind of like shut him up on the deal.
Speaker 1: But it look, he went in there with an agenda
Speaker 1: about Cole Cabana. From there, Look, I I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know what the well, I know what the answers
Speaker 1: are gonna be, just a matter of how they decide
Speaker 1: to go about everything. But it was It's interesting when
Speaker 1: all of that talk last week, there was good wrestling.
Speaker 1: We talked about the lead up in the build to
Speaker 1: that show, and it's like, you know what, Unfortunately what
Speaker 1: happened with Punk and Moxley really did get overshadowed by
Speaker 1: all this other real life stuff going on. Actually, we
Speaker 1: want to know the real irony. You want to know
Speaker 1: the real irony. The real irony is that Warlow was
Speaker 1: gonna get his biggest win ever over m JF. He
Speaker 1: gets it, and then they shoot that angle and everything
Speaker 1: Warlow did was totally overshadowed, and then ironically MJF makes
Speaker 1: his big return totally overshadowed by cm Punk. Lived by
Speaker 1: the sword, died by it. You can't write stuff like this.
Speaker 1: You literally can't write stuff like what happened this weekend
Speaker 1: back in a moment as you were life begging the show.
Speaker 1: Bran Elder is here Wrestling Observer Live, Mike simb for
Speaker 1: v B, also Wrestling Observer dot Com. This is not news,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna speculate here and I haven't. I have
Speaker 1: the impression signs gonna happen, so but nothing has been
Speaker 1: announced publicly yet. Tony said nothing and we got Dynamite
Speaker 1: tomorrow and whoever started whatever, blah blah blah. There was
Speaker 1: a brawl that involved the World Heavyweight Champion and the
Speaker 1: six man tag team champions, and I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know this, but I do not believe that the old
Speaker 1: champion or the six man take team champions are gonna
Speaker 1: be on the show tomorrow. And I don't know when.
Speaker 1: I don't know who else is gonna be there, but
Speaker 1: I don't think they're the only ones. But I don't
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be people in the show tomorrow. I
Speaker 1: don't know when they're gonna be back. So something needs
Speaker 1: to be said publicly about all of this. Something needs
Speaker 1: to be so Tony Conn needs to say something. And
Speaker 1: I don't know this, but my impression is that whatever
Speaker 1: it is is likely tomorrow. And of course it could
Speaker 1: happen right when the show goes off the air, but
Speaker 1: the impression I got is it's likely tomorrow. But I
Speaker 1: do think that, I do think that before Dynamite there's
Speaker 1: going to be some news regarding all of this, and
Speaker 1: hopefully it will happen, you know, for the show tomorrow
Speaker 1: we talk about read prefer that ye maybe we can
Speaker 1: call it a failor no, okay, not right now. Two
Speaker 1: tents listen, Thanks everybody, Thanks everybody me for a great weekend.
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. I'll be back later on tonight.
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