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Speaker 1: This is the Eds with Eddie Judge and Edwin Adoyavi.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, buddy.

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Speaker 2: It's good to be back. It's been a while.

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Speaker 1: It's been way too long. I missed you last time

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Speaker 1: in Napa. It would have been so much fun to

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Speaker 1: have you there and enjoy that moment. But there are

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Speaker 1: gonna be other future moments that we can have fun together.

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Speaker 1: In the podcast. Today we have Jody Glidden and Jody

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Speaker 1: Glinton is a veteran tech entrepreneur and co founder of

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Speaker 1: intro Hive, Postulized, split Well, and several other business ventures.

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Speaker 1: He is currently dating Lisa. I can't say her last name,

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Speaker 1: but everybody knows Lisa from Miami Housewives. And welcome Jody.

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Speaker 3: Great, thank you, Great to have you, Jody, Thank you

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Speaker 3: awesome again.

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Speaker 1: So Jody, listen. I don't know if you've listened to

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Speaker 1: our podcast, but as I mentioned earlier, it's all about you, man,

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Speaker 1: So talk about your yourself as much as you'd want,

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Speaker 1: and tell us all about yourself. I think the first

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Speaker 1: question that we want to know is who is Jody

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Speaker 1: Glinton and where did you grow up? Well?

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Speaker 4: You for sure, so I grew up in a little

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Speaker 4: town in eastern Canada and so kind of like a

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Speaker 4: little bit of a fishing and forestry town.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was. It was a nice upbringing.

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Speaker 3: I think we would, you know.

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Speaker 4: Play with motorcycles in the woods and you know, do

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Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was fun.

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Speaker 4: At a certain point during I don't know, maybe I

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Speaker 4: was eight years old or something, my parents got me

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Speaker 4: a computer and so I ended up learning to program

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Speaker 4: do it for fun, like for a hobby, kind of

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Speaker 4: part time. And then whenever, you know, we were all

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Speaker 4: graduating high school and everybody was trying to figure what

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Speaker 4: they were going to do for their life. It was

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Speaker 4: the early nineties, and I started realizing, actually, you can

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Speaker 4: make a business out of this, you know, maybe maybe

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Speaker 3: And that's how I ended up getting into tech.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. Sounds like the Bill Gates Steve Young story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think right place, right time, Well, wrong place,

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Speaker 3: So there was no check going on in Eastern Canada

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Speaker 3: at that time. I had to leave.

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Speaker 1: Really, you're speaking my language. Because I love the outdoors

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Speaker 1: and I wish more than anything, like my number one

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Speaker 1: thing I could do for the rest of my life

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Speaker 1: is ride my dirt bike in the woods all day long.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it was so much fun.

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Speaker 4: And I think like so often now as parents, we

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Speaker 4: or don't let them get hurt. But it was those

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Speaker 4: times like being out, you know, with our motorcycle or whatever,

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Speaker 4: like our little dirt bike and somebody.

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Speaker 3: It's just like it was fun times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. I still try to wrap my head

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Speaker 1: around that, Like why in my generation, and I think

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Speaker 1: in Edwin's generation too, it's like, well, how are you

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Speaker 1: Jody fifty one? Yeah, you're the same generation, same same age.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we were told get the hell out

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Speaker 1: and generation like, we don't let him go anywhere. You know,

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Speaker 1: him everywhere. And it just doesn't make any sense to me.

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Speaker 4: And actually, I think when you look at the numbers,

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Speaker 4: it's it's a much safer, you know, time that we

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Speaker 4: I come back from school, I drop my book bag,

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Speaker 4: at like ten or eleven at night, and.

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Speaker 3: I think if Peyton were to do that, I would

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when you say eastern, your Eastern Canada is that

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Speaker 4: I mean it's really it would be a ten hour

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you go from when you were born, what

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Speaker 5: took you to Toronto? And then how did you end

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 5: That was Miami the first choice? Or did you ever

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: I started I started out creating a tech company in Fredericton,

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Speaker 4: come into tech in Toronto and places like that. But

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Speaker 4: I moved to Toronto really for my third tech company.

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Speaker 4: So I did two tech companies in Frederickton and sold them.

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Speaker 5: So Toronto, San Francisco, then Miami. So what took you

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Speaker 4: The women, Well, uh no, when I got to San Francisco,

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Speaker 3: So I was kind of thinking about moving.

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Speaker 4: I was married at the time, she didn't really want

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Speaker 4: So we did a short stint back in Canada and

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Speaker 4: then ended up back in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 4: Back then I would just anywhere where I thought it

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Speaker 3: We were there for seven years. That's where my daughter

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Speaker 1: But you were young when you got married, because that

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Speaker 5: Did that white be out by the way, and do

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Speaker 5: okay with during that crash?

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Speaker 4: No, No, it was I sold the business, the second business,

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Speaker 3: That was it was fine. I was just living on

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Speaker 4: You know, I didn't bother trying to start another business

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Speaker 5: Now I also read some did you go to Harvard?

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Speaker 5: Did you get your masters from Harvard?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I did my masters at Harvard. I had I learned

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Speaker 3: But my mom, she had six kids.

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Speaker 4: I was one of them. I was the only one

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Speaker 4: and then I realized she didn't even know what Harvard was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're all back in Canada, but they come

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Speaker 5: What drove you to want to start to become an

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Speaker 4: So so at first I started my mom's you know,

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Speaker 4: And then this I had these different Microsoft certifications and

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Speaker 3: You can help me in my business.

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Speaker 5: If I'm going to go to these events, I'm not

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Speaker 4: Like I'll have half a drink or something if people

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Speaker 1: Omega threes the supplements. I definitely do creatine, even though

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00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 1: I eat a lot of meat that meets my primary

443
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 1: source of fuel and nutrition. But I do take creatine

444
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 1: because of its beneficial returns. You know, it's it's worth it.

445
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 1: I also take yeah, and I also do supplement with electrolytes,

446
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 1: you know, mostly because I am a sweathog. I sweat

447
00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,439
Speaker 1: like mad, and I know I lose a lot a

448
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 1: lot of electrolytes and electrolytes you know, micronutrients are very

449
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 1: hard to replenish unlike macro nutrients, you know, So to me,

450
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 1: it's sort of like the safe feats like a like

451
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 1: a backup system for me, Like I'm just gonna have

452
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: my electrolytes in there, whether I need them or not,

453
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 1: because yeah, there's going to be days where I'm out

454
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: eight hours on my dirt bike and I'm sweating my

455
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,400
Speaker 1: balls off and I'm having a great time. But afterwards

456
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: is the effect, right, Like why am I cramping?

457
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 4: And you know, like as we as we all age, right,

458
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,239
Speaker 4: there's things that just happen to our bodies that so

459
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 4: for example, all of our testosterone gets low, our growth

460
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 4: hormone gets low.

461
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 3: There's all these things that happen to us that are

462
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 3: it's not good.

463
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 4: So there's there's things now that are coming down through

464
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 4: research and everything, like mylestat and inhibitors and you know,

465
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 4: ways for people to supplement their testosterone either through in

466
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 4: klomaphine or through testosterone itself or whatever.

467
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 3: Like there's a whole bunch of.

468
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 4: Ways to fix these things that to make you a

469
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 4: little bit more like your body chemist for you, like

470
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,239
Speaker 4: when you're twenty, there's like the you know, people that

471
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 4: have they really do feel hunger in a way that

472
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 4: many of us might not. And and now there's like

473
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 4: ways to inhibit the feeling of hunger and all that

474
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. So I just think that what's happening

475
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 4: in medicine is like pretty amazing.

476
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 3: So I'm not like.

477
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 4: Anti you know, medicine in any way or whatever. I'm

478
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 4: more like about I just want to measure what's going

479
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 4: on in my body. I love this function. I don't

480
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 4: know if you guys saw function the blood.

481
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: Tests, Yeah, I've heard of it.

482
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty cool.

483
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 4: Like you can test, like, you know, a hundred different

484
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 4: biomarkers and you'll see like you're deficient in vitamin D

485
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 4: three and you're deficient in this and this and this,

486
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 4: and then you.

487
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 3: Can just correct it, you know, and it makes a

488
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 3: big difference.

489
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: Tell us about Lisa.

490
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 5: How did you meet Lisa. Let's get into let's get

491
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 5: into that good stuff.

492
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

493
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I had I had broken up with well,

494
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 4: I was in a really toxic relationship where we were

495
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 4: breaking up, getting back together, breaking up, getting back together.

496
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 3: I'd move out.

497
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: Is this your marriage?

498
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 3: No?

499
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 4: No, I actually have a great relationship with my ex wife.

500
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 4: We were together almost twenty years and wow, you know,

501
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 4: we just talked today, even we talk every day pretty much.

502
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 4: But this was a relationship I probably never should have

503
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 4: gotten into. I was but her and me and my

504
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 4: ex wife we had broken up.

505
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 3: I was single for a while.

506
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 4: I was dating, dating, dating, and then I was thinking, like,

507
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 4: I should probably make a decision on what I'm going

508
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 4: to do because I was worried that it would set

509
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 4: a bad example to my daughter if she sawt me

510
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 4: dating a lot of different people. And so I think

511
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 4: I probably jumped into choosing when I probably shouldn't have.

512
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 4: And probably about a year in I knew it wasn't right,

513
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 4: and I just kept on, you know, trying to make

514
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 4: it work. I think I'm a bit of a try

515
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 4: to make it work a person. Yeah, and then it

516
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 4: clearly wasn't and then I would just get to the

517
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 4: breaking point. I would move out, and we went through

518
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 4: this very toxic thing for a long time.

519
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: And then how long was the breakup period?

520
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 5: Like how long did it take from you knew you

521
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,959
Speaker 5: obviously knew the first year you should have broke up,

522
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 5: but you still.

523
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: Go five years?

524
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, it used to happen to me all

525
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 2: the time.

526
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 5: By the way, I knew I should have broken up

527
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 5: like six at the six month mark, at the year mark,

528
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 5: and then it took three years to finally break up.

529
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 2: It took five years to finally break up.

530
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 5: When in retrospect, I was like, I kind of knew

531
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 5: at year one it was never going to happen, Yet

532
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 5: I continued this back and forth toxic relationship.

533
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's that interesting for you or for them.

534
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 4: I think what prolonged the whole thing is that her

535
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 4: friends convinced me that everything would get a lot better

536
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 4: if we just got engaged, because a lot of the

537
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 4: you know, craziness that was happening, in the stress that

538
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 4: was happening, arguing that was happening, was because I was

539
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 4: not being engaged. And I don't know how I felt

540
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 4: for that. That was like, it's like these people that

541
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 4: they're like, oh, just have a baby, that'll fix everything.

542
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 4: So I got engaged, and and then it didn't fix

543
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 4: the It didn't fix the issues.

544
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, we ended up calling it off.

545
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 4: And then so then I was single, trying to figure

546
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 4: out what to do. And then one of my friends

547
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 4: we used to see this girl in the in the

548
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 4: gym all the time at Berry's boot Camp Lisa.

549
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 2: Barry's boot Camp, by the way, it's one of my

550
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: favorite workouts.

551
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 4: I still go like once a week with at least.

552
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 4: She's like a frequent flyer there.

553
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: Nice.

554
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 3: But we used to see her come in.

555
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 4: She was like I always thought she was beautiful, but

556
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 4: she she'd come in like five minutes slate to the class,

557
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 4: and she'd leave five minutes early.

558
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: And I'd think, like, what's with that girl?

559
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 4: She thinks she's too good for everybody's what's going on?

560
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 4: Why is she coming in late and leaving early and everything?

561
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 4: And then I came to realize what her life was like,

562
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 4: like if she sticks around, she gets like, you know,

563
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 4: it can be hard to get in and out sometimes. Yeah,

564
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 4: So that's where I first saw her, and I would

565
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 4: talk about her with my friends and everything, and then

566
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 4: then they broke up. I kind of forgot all about

567
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 4: it until I broke up, and I was like, I

568
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 4: was on a boat with one of my friends and

569
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 4: he said we were talking about like, what.

570
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 3: Am I going to do next? Am I going to

571
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: go on a dating app?

572
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 4: What am I going to do? And then he's we

573
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 4: were like, what about that? Lisa girl, and I was like, yeah,

574
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 4: maybe I'll ask her out. So I didn't realize at

575
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 4: the time how unrealistic that was, you know, just pulled outreach.

576
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 4: But I just like dm'd her and and then she

577
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 4: started writing back, and it was like within two minutes

578
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 4: she started writing back, and it was like an interview.

579
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 4: She's like like, do you have any kids? You know,

580
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 4: like what how old is your kid? What has your

581
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 4: relationship with her? Like it was like boom boom, boom,

582
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 4: boom boom, like for an hour and a half, like

583
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 4: what do you do for a living?

584
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 3: What did you do before that? Like you know, uh?

585
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 5: And then when in your DM or did you like

586
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 5: say hey it's me from Barrie's do you remember me?

587
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 5: Or what was that first DM?

588
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: What did you ask?

589
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: Well?

590
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 4: I remember it because she tells this story quite a bit.

591
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 4: She was getting apparently like a lot of like really

592
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 4: bad messages, like a lot of gross messages from guys

593
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 4: like whatever, and and mine was probably a pretty Canadian

594
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 4: I guess I was like, hey, I think you're really beautiful.

595
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 4: I've seen you around at you know, at your parties

596
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 4: and at various bot camp and stuff like that, and

597
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 4: I always thought you had like really great style, and

598
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 4: you know, you just you're kind of my neighbor. You

599
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 4: just live on the next island, and I'd love to

600
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 4: take you out sometime if you want.

601
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 3: And she's like, huh, next island. So he's doing okay

602
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: for himself. You know.

603
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say that I liked that drop

604
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 5: of the next island.

605
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 2: That's just like yeah, low hand.

606
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah. So it worked.

607
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 4: And then we went out for planned our first date

608
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 4: at a restaurant and it was like a very awkward

609
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 4: car ride because it was it was probably too long

610
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 4: of a car ride, and and then but yeah, but

611
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 4: it turned out to be it turned out to be great.

612
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 4: We ended up going to an event. It was like

613
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 4: this season is all about the Philip Line thing. We

614
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 4: went to a Philip Line event when we first.

615
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: Met, and.

616
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 4: It was it was nice because like I had had

617
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 4: other friends there so I could talk to my friends

618
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 4: and like she could still talk to her.

619
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: It wasn't so much pressure, you know. Yeah, it turned

620
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 3: out to be really good.

621
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 4: And then then I just you know, asked her out again,

622
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 4: and it is kind of I remember her telling me,

623
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 4: like early into the relationship, she said, are you sure

624
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 4: you want to do this because this is going to

625
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 4: get really crazy.

626
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

627
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: I was thinking, like how crazy could it really get?

628
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 4: You know, I've been in the media before with my

629
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 4: tex stuff. I didn't realize how different that was, you know.

630
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, well, let me ask you the big question.

631
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: When you saw Lisa, and you obviously knew about her,

632
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: not just because she's a hottie, did you know that

633
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: she was on a real housewife show on TV? Yeah?

634
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, everybody everybody in the city knew that couple.

635
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 3: More than anybody else on the show.

636
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 4: They just knew who that couple was because they were

637
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 4: in the same social circles. So I had a million

638
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 4: friends that were their friends.

639
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: Yea.

640
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 4: It happened to have not met, so it was that

641
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 4: was one of the things that actually made it pretty

642
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 4: ea because we had so many friends in common. Okay,

643
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 4: and I didn't have any friends in common with anybody

644
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 4: else on the show. But I knew all about her,

645
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 4: and she knew a lot of my friends, but we

646
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 4: didn't really I didn't know much about the show because

647
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 4: I didn't watch the show.

648
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: I was just going to ask you that, like, were

649
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: you very familiar with the show? Okay?

650
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: You I was forced to watch it once or twice

651
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: by one of my axes.

652
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 2: But do you interact with Lisa's X at all?

653
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 3: No, not really.

654
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 4: I went to like birthdays and things like that. I

655
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 4: tried to make the best of it. I just felt like,

656
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: you know, I had such a good relationship with my ax.

657
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 4: I thought it would work itself out in time. And

658
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 4: I remember texting them that saying like, Hey, I know

659
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 4: things arely heated between you and Lisa right now, but

660
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 4: I do think it'll work itself out over time and

661
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 4: all that, kind of giving them my perspective, but they

662
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 4: never I'm not sure it ever will for them.

663
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: You know.

664
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tough place to be and I know that.

665
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate to bring this up, but I

666
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: know Edwin is kind of walking into that world, Like

667
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: how is he going to feel when the kids are

668
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 1: going to be with somebody else? And it's it's a

669
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: crazy dynamic. I don't know if you're ready for that.

670
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: You're ready for that, Edwin?

671
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: I think so. It seems like a cool guy.

672
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: I haven't met him yet, but but are you communicating

673
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: with him?

674
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: No, not yet, not yet.

675
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: I personally I don't have a problem with it, but

676
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: that's good.

677
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 5: But I think it's you know, I think it's a

678
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 5: you know, when it just happens organic. I think I'm

679
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 5: more of that type of person and stuff.

680
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think we talked about this before on

681
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: another podcast interview, and I want to say I had

682
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: I never spoke to my wife's ex. It just was

683
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: not conducive. The guy was just a terrible person. But

684
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: I think if I had done it different, if I

685
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: had my way, I would have had a great conversation

686
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: or relationship with him because it benefits the kids the most.

687
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: I think that's my opinion. I didn't experience that, but

688
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: from what I witnessed and other relationships that have gone

689
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: through something like that, I think the kids benefit highly.

690
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: And and I just had, you know, an interview with

691
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: PAULI and we talked about that with him and Dolores

692
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: and yeah, and and how he has just an incredible

693
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: relationship with the whole entire extended family, including Frank and

694
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: it's just so funny how they go back and forth

695
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: like brothers, and it's it's bizarre to me, but he says, yeah,

696
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: you know, it works, It really works.

697
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 5: I think it's easy if if both couples are getting along. Yeah,

698
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 5: it's it's easy to meet the other person, right. I

699
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 5: think if you're not getting along, it just makes it

700
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 5: that much tougher, right because you know, as the as

701
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 5: the guy that's coming into a new relationship, you almost

702
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 5: have to stay away because it can only be bad

703
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 5: for you. If they're in a bad place and then

704
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 5: you try to butt in, it just gets worse. So

705
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 5: but if they're both doing well and amicable, it's easy

706
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 5: to just meet the other person, I think.

707
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

708
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 4: And it's so much harder in our world, I think too,

709
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 4: because everything, uh, you know, everybody is so visible in

710
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 4: the media, so like there was an awful lot happening

711
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 4: where something would happen and then somebody would call you know,

712
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 4: page six or us or whatever, and then like and

713
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 4: then somebody then they call for a rebuttal and it's

714
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 4: just it's a weird world, you know, this whole thing

715
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 4: is it just RKEs it really difficult.

716
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: Now.

717
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 4: On the other hand, my daughter's mom and she's you know,

718
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 4: she's now remarried, and we travel together, like you and

719
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 4: the kids and uh and my daughter and and then

720
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 4: like we did ski trips together, we do Christmas together.

721
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: Wow. Great that's awesome.

722
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you bring Lisa with you, I assume, yeah, yeah.

723
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 4: Lisa and the kids and and actually Logan h which

724
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 4: is Lisa's on he was, he was he he loves Danny,

725
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 4: which is you know, it's like my kid's mom's husband.

726
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 4: He loves me, and Danny has taken him like pickleball

727
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 4: and you know, all kinds of stuff like that. It's

728
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 4: kind of like a you know, a new modern family.

729
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 3: It's fun.

730
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: That's cool. That is so cool.

731
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 5: So you were I remember I saw some articles on

732
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 5: you know, how supportive you were being for Lisa and

733
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 5: how great you were for Lisa, and obviously you were

734
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 5: getting some great press and then all of a sudden

735
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 5: you start getting some bad press with that incident of you,

736
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 5: which you guys quickly sort of diminished. But how was that,

737
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 5: you know, getting good press and then all of a

738
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 5: sudden you.

739
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: Got to deal with that crap?

740
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: Right?

741
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: How was that? Definitely the ard where you're disappointed.

742
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 4: I thinkfully, that wasn't my first foray into it, because

743
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 4: like I had when I was like several months into

744
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 4: dating Lisa and then there was a hit piece put

745
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 4: in by her ex about just one day whenever I

746
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 4: was like dropping her off. He like called the you know,

747
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 4: one of these tabloids or whatever, and they were saying

748
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 4: like that I was visiting the house late at night.

749
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 4: It was just like a really bizarre article. I was like,

750
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 4: this is really strange that this is what the world

751
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 4: is like. You know, you do a normal thing, like

752
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 4: you're just dropping somebody off, and it turns into a

753
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 4: news story.

754
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: So what was that story, Like you were being a

755
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: stalker or what.

756
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 3: Well, it was trying to apply that I was home with.

757
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 4: And the kids, and then that was somehow inappropriate because

758
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 4: the kids are too young to have a guy around.

759
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: It was a twenty thousand square foot mansion with two

760
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 4: guest houses, you know, like it's not like we're just

761
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 4: we were just hanging out like every couple hangs out. Yeah,

762
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 4: but you know, he was able to spin that into

763
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 4: a news story. And I think he was just angry

764
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 4: at the time at her And I'm sure there was

765
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 4: a lot of back and forth worth us.

766
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 3: I mean, I was really angry with my with my

767
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: ex when we first broke up, so I think that's natural.

768
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 4: But that's where I first caught the first shrapnel, I guess.

769
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: And and then this last one, I had actually heard

770
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 4: like long before the season was ever, Like really, when

771
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 4: season one was was wrapping up, one of the producers

772
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 4: had said to me that a lot of times in

773
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 4: season two, like when you're in your second full season,

774
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 4: a lot of times that's when they'll.

775
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 3: Give you a bad editor. Yeah, and so I.

776
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 4: Wasn't entirely surprised, and then and then I got But

777
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 4: when I saw that, it was so bizarre because you know,

778
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 4: they leave all the windows and door You guys have

779
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: probably seen this, but they have like the lighting equipment

780
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 4: and stuff like that, so they leave all the windows and

781
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 4: doors open where they're filming. We had barbecues and everything

782
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 4: in our in our living room, and so it was

783
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 4: like ninety some degrees.

784
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 3: Everybody's like sweating through their shirts and everything.

785
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 4: And also most of my friends don't want to be

786
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 4: on camera, but but I didn't want to be at

787
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 4: my own birthday without my friends. Yeah, if I said,

788
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 4: you know, it's fine and invite all the cast and everything,

789
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 4: but I want to have my own friends there, and

790
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 4: then my friends would come and they basically just had

791
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 4: you know, we have a got a very large place,

792
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 4: so they just had their own kind of birthday going

793
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 4: on separate from the main one, and then then I

794
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 4: see that they're like clearly trying to imply that I

795
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 4: was like that AC was some code word, and some

796
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 4: people have even like given it, like they say adult

797
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 4: candy or.

798
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 3: Something like that. It's just so stretching, but whatever.

799
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: I mean, that's part of the Real Housewife world is

800
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: that every edit, for the most part, is to create

801
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: the maximize the drama, you know, to create something out

802
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: of nothing or take something completely out of context. I

803
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 1: get it now because I've been in it for so long,

804
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: and if there wasn't any of that, then there wouldn't

805
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: be an audience just rivetted to watching the train wreck, right,

806
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: because that's what I call it. It's just just a

807
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: train wreck shit show that everybody loves to watch, and

808
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: they've been very successful with it, doing that same program

809
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: year in year out. Every time I've spoken to any

810
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: potential house husband or boyfriend that's going to be on

811
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: the show, I've had a few of them reach out

812
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: to me and say, hey, so what should I expect.

813
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: My biggest advice has always been to stay out of

814
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: the cameras, to stay out of the drama, don't get involved.

815
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: You know, at the end of the day, it's better

816
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: to be called a guy or a guy that doesn't

817
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: support his wife on this show, then a guy that

818
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: gets all into the business it gets into a fight

819
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: with another housewife and becomes, you know, the seventh housewife

820
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: on the show. Right, that's my take on it.

821
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 3: This is what I tried to do.

822
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 4: So when I heard that this was probably that I

823
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: was probably going to be, you know, I have this

824
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 4: happen in season two, I thought, okay, Well, the first

825
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 4: thing I did is said I'm not going to film

826
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 4: season two, and so we went a long time into

827
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 4: negotiations where I was like, I'm not going to do

828
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 4: this until you know if this is what's coming. And

829
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 4: it ended up I was. I was satisfied. I thought

830
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 4: it was all going to be kept under control. The

831
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 4: very first event was my birthday, so there was no

832
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 4: it's but to be there, you know, So so I

833
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 4: was kind of trapped. Larsa came right up and confronted

834
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 4: me at my birthday.

835
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: They cut most of the scene.

836
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 4: It's actually like a five minute scene or so where

837
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 4: I have a whole conversation with her where she's like

838
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: asking these different questions and I'm saying like, she's like,

839
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 4: do you know don't you know what Marcus did to me?

840
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 4: And I said, well, something along lines of like no,

841
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 4: I don't know anything about that, and and she was like, well.

842
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 3: You know he did this and this and this. Don't

843
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: even don't aren't you on Instagram?

844
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 4: And I said, I'm not really on Instagram like once

845
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 4: in a while, like once every few weeks or a month,

846
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 4: I'll post something, but I'm not really an Instagram person.

847
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 4: And she's like, well, what about the tabloids. It's all

848
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 4: over the TMC and everything. I was like, I don't.

849
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 4: I'm a business person. I don't really read tabloids or

850
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,479
Speaker 4: any of that kind of stuff. Honestly, I just don't

851
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 4: do that. It was a whole conversation.

852
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: Are you drinking? Do you have a little buzz going on?

853
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 2: And she's.

854
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 3: I was prepared because I was like, this is gonna

855
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: be like. I didn't let my guard down until the

856
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 3: whole I thought.

857
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 4: It was over, like I thought, okay, well I handled

858
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 4: that pretty well, and then I was like, okay, guys,

859
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 4: like all right.

860
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 3: Let's go do a shot.

861
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 4: So then I felt like it was all good and

862
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 4: then but turned out they clipped the whole argument and

863
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 4: they made it look like she confronted me, and I

864
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 4: was like, oh.

865
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that clip. My wife made me watch

866
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: the show.

867
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's And then I realized, I mean, every

868
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 4: year you learn a little bit more right, and you

869
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 4: realize I thought, as long as you don't give them

870
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 4: any any scenes that where you're being full Oh no,

871
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 4: I realized, No, it's it's even more than that. You

872
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 4: really have to just stay away. Yeah, like you said,

873
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 4: if you stay away too much, then you're on supportive.

874
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think I think I'll know the right

875
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 4: balance next year if I if I decide to.

876
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: Do it, Yeah, I think my number one rule is

877
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: just don't get involved with the drama no matter how

878
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: bad it gets, because I have confidence more than one

879
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: hundred percent that my wife can handle it because she's

880
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: been doing that. She's seasoned. She knows how to deal

881
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: with these little bitches that you know, want men that

882
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: want to be on the show and want to be

883
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, big mouth and be part of the housewife world.

884
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I there's nothing I can contribute to

885
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: that because my wife will put them in their place,

886
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, And my wife doesn't make up bullshit, you know,

887
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: she defends herself, defends her family, and just calls people

888
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: out on their bullshit. And that's what people don't like,

889
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: especially men.

890
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

891
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 4: In our in our group, the men don't really get involved.

892
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 4: This year, what ended up happening is, you know, Marcus

893
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 4: and I joined the show at the same time. Every

894
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 4: time he lives in Orlando, So every time he would

895
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 4: come down from Orlando, which is every three four months

896
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 4: or whatever, he's he's friends with all my friends, so

897
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 4: all my friends, and he has to be like, Hey,

898
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 4: I'm coming to.

899
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 3: Town or whatever, let's go grab dinner. We grab dinner, and.

900
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 4: One of these times, it was in the summertime, I

901
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 4: grabbed dinner with him and a bunch of my friends.

902
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: And then.

903
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 4: Like months later, we're going into filming and then Larsa

904
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 4: calls and she's all angry. I'm like what, And then

905
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 4: I'm realizing she's talking about this group dinner with all

906
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 4: my friends from like months before.

907
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't even I didn't.

908
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 4: Even know this was a problem, you know. Yeah, and

909
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 4: then it just turned into a confrontation. First thing I

910
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 4: knew I was the story lie.

911
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: Well, the other thing I kind of took away from

912
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: watching the clip of your show last Sunday, I think

913
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: it was, is, you know, there's going to be drama

914
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: between friends. You know, Again, something I learned recently, there's

915
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: got to be a fight, and then there's got to

916
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: be making up. And my wife's had so many of

917
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: those relationships on the show. And again it's for show purposes, right,

918
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: but there also have been some women on the show

919
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: that they can't get to my wife. They can't you know,

920
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: make her emotionally cry or really get at her, right,

921
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: so they go after their kids, or they go after

922
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: their husbands or boyfriends. And that's just not fun. That's

923
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: not cool, you know, these these women, and we're not

924
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: going to you know. And and the thing that really

925
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: gets me is that Bravo edits it and puts it

926
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: out there, and I get it, you know, it's part

927
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,959
Speaker 1: of the show. We signed the contract, then we're there

928
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: because we want to support our wife anyway we can.

929
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: But it's it's, yeah, it's I don't know, collateral damage.

930
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: Welcome to the collateral damage.

931
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 4: But I think I think it does make it harder

932
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 4: to recruit successful guys.

933
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 3: To the show, because yeah, and to get us to

934
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 3: come back like after after a year like this.

935
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 4: You know, we had a lot of discussions, like do

936
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 4: I ever want to be on camera again?

937
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know.

938
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: It's I I definitely wanted to help her. I wanted

939
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: to support her, But then I.

940
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 4: See some of the women on the show where their

941
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 4: husbands barely appear and they've been fine. Yeah, so I

942
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 4: think I think I can probably fade away and that

943
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 4: would be great.

944
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: Do you still talk to Marcus?

945
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

946
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I probably every two or three months we talk.

947
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 4: I'm I'm taking my daughter to Paris here this weekend,

948
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 4: and and and he's going to be in Paris apparently

949
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 4: in the same same weekends we were talking about actually

950
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 4: grabbing dinner.

951
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 3: If that doesn't like cause, I.

952
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 4: Mean, the guy doesn't even drin think anymore. Like he's

953
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 4: he's he's so not what at least from what I've seen,

954
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 4: he's so not what is rumored?

955
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, yeah, what is uh?

956
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: What does mom now think of you been on the show?

957
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: Obviously she was very proud when you got that job

958
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: making fifteen bucks. Now what does she think now that

959
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: you're on Bravo TV?

960
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: Is she like a big fan is sher celebrity?

961
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god, if if my mom were My

962
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 4: mom passed a long time ago, but if my mom

963
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 4: were still alive, there was no way I would do

964
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 4: the show because she would have just never. My mom

965
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 4: was very She used to preach to me all the

966
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 4: time about modesty and not bragging and just like she was,

967
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 4: so it was so important to her that uh that

968
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 4: I actually it kind of hurt my businesses for a

969
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 4: long time because I wouldn't be on camera. I didn't

970
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 4: have any kind of public image because I always had

971
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 4: these things going on in my hat about what my

972
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 4: mom had taught me. So yeah, if she were, if

973
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 4: she were alive, I'd be wrestling between you know, what's

974
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 4: good for Lisa and what's good for my mom, and

975
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 4: I probably would lean towards modesty.

976
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 2: My last question for you, just a fun one.

977
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 5: You mentioned when you DMD or you said, hey, I

978
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 5: have a house just snacks on the other island. Who

979
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 5: had a nicer house?

980
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: You or Lisa?

981
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 4: Oh?

982
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: You know it was? My house was was quite nice.

983
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 3: It was a waterfront. You know.

984
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 4: I sold it for twelve through twelve million dollars just

985
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 4: a couple months ago.

986
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 3: But at least was worth I think eighty million dollars.

987
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 4: Oh wow, it's like a massive, massive place, so really,

988
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 4: you know, it kind of to me felt a little

989
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 4: bit like a hospital. It was giant, like twenty five

990
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 4: ceilings and like.

991
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, was yours more modern?

992
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, mine was more more like modern like wood.

993
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 4: It's kind of like I don't know if you've seen

994
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 4: these like with Teak and Epey and all that. I

995
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 4: love that kind of thing, like feel a little bit jungly.

996
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

997
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: Now they got some beautiful homes there.

998
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 3: I can only Miami. Miami is a really great place.

999
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: It's my daughter was just saying about how she loves

1000
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 4: where she lives. And I remember when I grew up,

1001
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 4: and most of us when we grew up, we didn't

1002
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 4: love where we lived. But I do find off a

1003
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 4: lot of people they love Miami.

1004
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great place. It's a really cool, just hip, jive,

1005
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 1: awesome place to visit. I don't know that I could

1006
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: live at the same thing with New York. I love visiting,

1007
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: I don't know that I can live there, But you know,

1008
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: it probably stems from just growing up in southern California

1009
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: all my life and I'm comfortable here, but I do

1010
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: love to visit Miami. It's awesome. It's pretty cool.

1011
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: Now that you sold your place, what's next?

1012
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 4: Well, so now I think I'm actually looking at another place.

1013
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 4: So there's a place that's another waterfront place I found.

1014
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 4: I had a feeling that prices were going to drop,

1015
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 4: and they are. So I think I talked to that

1016
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 4: kind of perfectly been investing and stuff like that, and

1017
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 4: then now I think I'm probably gonna buy another place

1018
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 4: coming well, I guess if I can get it for

1019
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 4: what I think I can.

1020
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: Do you involve your daughter at all with it? She

1021
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: just has no.

1022
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 3: Interest in that kind of stuff.

1023
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 4: You know, I'm waiting to see, you know what she's

1024
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 4: gonna have interest in. At the moment, she's like very

1025
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 4: focused on forensics. She wants to solve crimes, work for

1026
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 4: the FBI and all that kind of stuff. That could

1027
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 4: be pretty cool. I would like for her to do

1028
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 4: something in maths or sciences or AI or something that's

1029
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 4: future proof, you.

1030
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: Know, right right, times are definitely changing. So one last

1031
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: question I have for you is now that we've mentioned,

1032
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: you know, some of the negative stuff that has happened

1033
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: on Bravo and how they spin things to create a

1034
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: storyline and how you know, sometimes we get to be

1035
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: you know, collateral damage on all that. Tell us about

1036
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: some of the positive stuff that you've experienced since being

1037
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: on the show.

1038
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's it's I mean, I guess in terms

1039
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 4: of it's a wild life. Yeah, we go to you know,

1040
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 4: she's coming to meet me and Peyton in Paris here

1041
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 4: this weekend, and you know, it's it's crazy, like when

1042
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 4: we're getting stopped all the time in the street and

1043
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 4: and like all this it's a it's that that stuff

1044
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 4: is it is cool for a while, but I think

1045
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 4: in I think and it's been really great for Lisa.

1046
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: I mean, Lisa has built a.

1047
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 4: Whole career in business that is probably starting to rival

1048
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 4: what she's making on the show now. And that's that's

1049
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 4: really just within the last couple of years. So I think,

1050
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 4: you know, she never really had focused on it before,

1051
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 4: and now I've been kind of like trying to help her,

1052
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 4: you know, how to build a brand and then you know,

1053
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 4: how to think about product and stuff like that, and

1054
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 4: she's been really focusing. I've been pretty proud of her

1055
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 4: now that she's like clear of the distraction of the divorce.

1056
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 4: I think she's doing a good job. So I think

1057
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 4: it's really good for the women that you know, use

1058
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 4: it in the right way.

1059
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: So I understand you guys created an app for divorce

1060
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: to make divorce a little bit easier or yeah, consumer friendly.

1061
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

1062
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 4: So she had ran into a lot of problems during

1063
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 4: her divorce, and she was constantly calling me. I have

1064
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 4: a bit of a legal background too, and so she

1065
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 4: would ask me different questions about things that would happen

1066
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 4: all the time, like, hey, she'd just wake up in

1067
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 4: the morning and maybe all the cars were gone from

1068
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 4: the driveway and she had to drive, she had to

1069
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 4: get the kids to school or whatever, like all kinds

1070
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 4: of random situations, and so I would, you know, help

1071
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 4: her look through the legal documents and all that stuff

1072
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 4: that she could save money.

1073
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 3: And then they were just de escalating conversations.

1074
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 4: There was like how to find a good attorney that's

1075
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 4: not going to take advantage of the situation all these problems,

1076
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 4: And we started conversations about like, you know, we could

1077
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 4: probably build something that would help you, but also help

1078
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 4: women in general that are the disadvantage party. Usually they

1079
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 4: don't have as much legal knowledge as much money as

1080
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 4: the husband and it would be a good business for Lisa.

1081
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 4: So so I helped her get that off the ground,

1082
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 4: helped her raise money, hire the team, and she's got

1083
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 4: she's got a whole team that basically runs with that

1084
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 4: now and I just kind of like help them set

1085
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 4: weekly goals or whatever.

1086
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: But that's awesome.

1087
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: I was an investor in it.

1088
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 4: Now I don't have to be that involved anymore, which

1089
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 4: is my postalized business has just really taken off. It's

1090
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 4: been we're this week, I think going to close a

1091
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 4: really large financing.

1092
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 3: To take it to the next level. So that's taking

1093
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 3: up a lot of my time.

1094
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: Fantastic, very cool, fantastic. So do you have any questions

1095
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: for us or do you have anything and else? Do

1096
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: you want to clarify about your experience on the show,

1097
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: anything you want to talk about.

1098
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 3: You know, I was when the more we got talking.

1099
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 4: I know, we met at Pravacan a couple of years ago,

1100
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 4: and I thought it's been such a nice network, you know, Yeah,

1101
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 4: just meeting all the different guys and you realize how

1102
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 4: you have a lot of things in common with them

1103
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 4: because you're all kind of subject to the same things.

1104
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 3: But I found fan you guys.

1105
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 4: To be really great, and I love that you guys

1106
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 4: do this because it kind of helps a little bit

1107
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 4: when you feel like your only camera time is whatever

1108
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 4: slice of camera time that Bravo decides to give you,

1109
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 4: and it's not always the one that you want, and

1110
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 4: it's nice when people get to know who you really are.

1111
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it's.

1112
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 4: Nice to you guys take the time to do these

1113
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 4: kinds of podcasts and I love that.

1114
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I know I'm enjoying it. Edwin,

1115
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: you're enjoying this and.

1116
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 5: Enjoying them, and I love hearing stories like yours and

1117
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 5: again kind of get to hear the story the man

1118
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 5: behind the stories.

1119
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 2: So it's pretty cool.

1120
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think my favorite part of this is,

1121
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, getting the opportunity to share the real man

1122
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: behind or with the housewife on the show, because it's

1123
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: not fair. It's not fair that, you know, we don't

1124
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: get to be the real person on TV. And I

1125
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: get why, you know, I'm boring on TV.

1126
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 4: You know, I was like, I was like, the reason

1127
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 4: I look awkward on camera is because I'm awkward on camera.

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00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: You know, housewife, I don't I never intended to be

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00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 3: a housewife.

1130
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: Oh. I wanted to mention that too. When I was

1131
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: watching the show on Sunday, I'm like, oh, he is

1132
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable on the camera and I'm the same way,

1133
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: Like I'm a perfectly cool guy, normal conversation, but you

1134
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: put that big lens in front of me, it changes me.

1135
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 4: Just I don't think people realize what it's like because

1136
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 4: when we're doing these scenes, there's like, you know, ten

1137
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 4: people around you with my booms and you know, cameras

1138
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 4: from all different angles and stuff, and you're just have

1139
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 4: a normal conversation as though they're not even there.

1140
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 3: It's it's, yeah, it's not like those lights.

1141
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: Can be pretty hot, by the way. Those those lights

1142
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 2: can get warm.

1143
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and on where you're at and where the scene

1144
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 5: is that those lights are just like beaming on you.

1145
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1146
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 3: He's a hilarious I don't know if you guys have

1147
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 3: seen this.

1148
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 4: He's hilarious, this guy who acted out a scene of

1149
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 4: a typical house husband.

1150
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: He's like, I haven't seen that.

1151
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 4: I'll have to send it to you guys, maybe show

1152
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 4: notes or something. But it's it's so funny. It's this

1153
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 4: this guy where he's like, what I can't believe she

1154
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 4: disrespected our family. So it's a house husband, you know,

1155
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 4: like we're all just do our part to like say whatever, yeah,

1156
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 4: supportive thing, but we are not involved.

1157
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: Sometimes I when I get awkward like that, I'll yell

1158
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: out to the crew and I say, line, do.

1159
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: You get more comfortable when you have some drinks on you? Yeah?

1160
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 4: Say, oh my god, that was what that was what

1161
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 4: I was doing. It's kind of like the story you told.

1162
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 4: I was drinking a lot in the scenes because I

1163
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 4: was like, I gotta get.

1164
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 3: Comfortable or whatever, you know.

1165
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 4: And then I was just like, I don't, like, we're

1166
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 4: shooting like at some points five times a week.

1167
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't do that.

1168
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no.

1169
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 5: Eddie's very calm with the cameras. He even did a

1170
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 5: nude scene almost.

1171
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: From the start. It was all downhill from there.

1172
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. They did that in my season one too.

1173
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 4: There was like a there was like a scene where

1174
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 4: they were like, hey, you guys want to like do

1175
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 4: a date night. So we did a date night and stuff,

1176
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 4: and then then they're like, you know, what are you

1177
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 4: guys going to do after after dinner? I was like,

1178
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, like maybe go hang out by the

1179
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 4: dock or whatever.

1180
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 3: They're like, how about the hot tub? And then I'm like,

1181
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 3: oh man.

1182
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: You know what they want? Yeah, oh man. So hey,

1183
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: I'll leave you with this final advice if you haven't

1184
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: seen this show on Netflix is called Unreal. It's a

1185
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: sort of a I think it's an eight series reality

1186
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: TV kind of show, and it's about filming reality TV.

1187
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: And the biggest takeaway is you know how producers are

1188
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: wired to make a good show. But it'll open up

1189
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 1: your eyes on how this all works for real because

1190
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: you know some producers, most of the producers on our show,

1191
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: I love them. They're they're really nice. They're really really

1192
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: nice to you when they want you to do something right.

1193
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: Perfect example, my very first scene when I filmed, you know,

1194
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: the bathtub scene, the producer took me downstairs and said,

1195
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: you don't have to do this, but here's a shot

1196
00:56:52,680 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: at tequila. Seven shots later, I'm like, yo. They just

1197
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: they just know how to manipulate you to do certain things.

1198
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 1: And this show was very entertaining to watch only because

1199
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: we're in it. You know, we're deep in it, and

1200
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: there'll be there'll be a lot of takeaway for you

1201
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: for how to manage yourself in the future.

1202
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. I do love a lot of the producers.

1203
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 4: They're really they're really good people, and I know they're

1204
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 4: doing their job.

1205
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 3: I know that his job.

1206
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 4: But no, I probably have to probably film very little

1207
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 4: or maybe not at all if it's gonna go like that.

1208
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 3: It's just I think it's hard not to.

1209
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: And this is another experience I had. I think it

1210
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: was year two. Going into year two. I had a

1211
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: decent edit in the beginning, because that was the night

1212
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: in Shining Armor, you know, coming to save Camera from

1213
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: her divorce or her last her last life. But yeah,

1214
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: they they edited me in a way where it just

1215
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: didn't make any sense, kind of like what happened to you?

1216
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: And I had to make a choice. I literally contemplating, contemplated,

1217
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: you know, I can't do this show. And if I

1218
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: can't do this show, I can't be in this relationship

1219
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: with Camera, So what's more important to me? And I

1220
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: had to dig deep, deep, deep inside me and ask myself, like,

1221
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: do you see a potential in this relationship? And all

1222
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: the lights went up and said, yeah, you got to

1223
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: do whatever it takes. So I had to make a

1224
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: I had to literally flip a switch in my head

1225
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: and go, Okay, I'm going to do this, and I'm

1226
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: going to do it my way, and then you know,

1227
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to stay out of the drama, out of

1228
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: the camera as much as possible, and only film when

1229
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: I absolutely have to. And one trink I learned is

1230
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: I think you did this too. It when whenever the

1231
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: cameras are filming and the drama starts, I always stand

1232
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: behind the cameraman or next to the cameraman because they

1233
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: can't get my my my reaction, they can't get me

1234
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: on the on you know, part of the drama, so

1235
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: they can't air it. And it's always It's always worked

1236
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: for me.

1237
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 3: That's a good idea. Just careful going going to the

1238
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 3: bathroom or something.

1239
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and learn how to turn the mics off.

1240
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: How many times have you had to tell your friends?

1241
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: I might it's like you're you're working for the FBI

1242
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: or something, right.

1243
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got that girl, such a.

1244
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1245
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: Well, Jody, it's been an awesome time hanging with you.

1246
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed getting to know you. I hope to

1247
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: see you at Bravo Khan this year.

1248
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely.

1249
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had a good time.

1250
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, good time. Thank you for being so open, Jody.

1251
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 2: It was so much fun interviewing you man.

1252
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. Really nice to see you guys.

1253
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: Awesome. Well take care, Jody, have a good one.

1254
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 2: See.

1255
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was fun.

1256
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was fun. I loved how open he was.

1257
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 2: It was super cool.

1258
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I and it all makes sense, which is super cool.

1259
00:59:58,480 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: You know.

1260
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: One of the of things I was concerned with is,

1261
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes, and especially in my experience over here,

1262
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: there's been actual real douchebags that are on the show

1263
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: and they try they interview well, they talk well, they

1264
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: present well, right, So I never want to interview those

1265
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: guys because they're just gonna lie through their teeth. And

1266
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: my concern was, I don't really know Jody much, but

1267
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: there's this controversy going on, and you know, let's just

1268
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: give it a shot. Let's see what happens.

1269
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 2: So he's very genuine to me.

1270
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like the guy a lot. And it

1271
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: sounds like he really cares about people and his family

1272
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: and his obviously his relationship with Lisa. So totally cool guy.

1273
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 3: I like it.

1274
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 2: Loved it all right, my man.

1275
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:47,479
Speaker 1: It's a great senior brother.

1276
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 2: I know, it's great senior man. We got to hang soon,

1277
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 2: catch up.

1278
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: All right. I hope you're doing well. All right, same,

1279
01:00:52,840 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: all right, take care of bro, sayah bye.