WEBVTT - Preseason Week 4 recap, Chargers preview, and more...

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<v Speaker 1>Fantasy football frenzy. M. That is fantastic. You're right, You're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not you know, I don't have kids and stuff yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not married yet. But I'm surprised he's got close

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<v Speaker 1>on him. That's true. But do you think I'll wear

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<v Speaker 1>anything more than a shirt? Now? I'm picturing this and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't focus on what I need to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about next. All right, So relax, fancy football frenzy.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna break down. Obviously we did. I can't see

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<v Speaker 1>chief say we're almost done with team previews. Imagine took

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<v Speaker 1>us two months, but almost done. I want to do

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers today, who also went twelve and four like

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs last year, but they did not have the

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<v Speaker 1>tie break, so they were a wild card team. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Charges once again, pretty stacked team, although some may say

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<v Speaker 1>they're unlucky. Uh. They lose Derwin James uh this year

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<v Speaker 1>for the whole season, which is a huge loss for

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<v Speaker 1>them defensively their safety, um, you know, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>have Melvin Gordon's hold out of course, which you know

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<v Speaker 1>just continues to be an issue for everyone fantasy owners alike.

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<v Speaker 1>So yesterday we had the preseason games and I know

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<v Speaker 1>you said. I didn't mean it's born like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie. I only watched the Giant game, or parts

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and I saw Paul Paul Perkins cut someone up,

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<v Speaker 1>get it like a ten yard run, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm good. I don't I really don't watch

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Perkins. I watched a whole season. And we watched

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<v Speaker 1>the whole season of Paul Perkins as are starting running back,

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<v Speaker 1>which was brutal. That that what must have been the

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<v Speaker 1>worst rushing season for the Giants I've ever seen in

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<v Speaker 1>my thirty two years of his of existence, which I

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<v Speaker 1>just turned thirty two, by the way. So um, you

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm getting all I'm getting up there now, you guys. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess there was a couple of things that

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<v Speaker 1>stood out yesterday. I'll mention a couple. One thing I

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<v Speaker 1>think it stood I was Donchrill Hi Hilliard, um, who

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<v Speaker 1>looks to be the past catching back possibly for the

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Browns. When when the season starts, hat twelve rushes

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five yards, two catches thirteen yards in a t D.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had a nice little game. Wait wait, wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's let's make sure we're clear on this with

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<v Speaker 1>the people watching and listening to the show. Yes, you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying he's gonna be the past catching back. Possibly, let's

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<v Speaker 1>not forget, and let's make sure we tell everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>case they missed it. This team also wants to get

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<v Speaker 1>Chubb much more involved in the passing game, So to

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<v Speaker 1>call him the receiving back is taking some of that

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<v Speaker 1>off a Chub And right now, that's what's putting the

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<v Speaker 1>glimmer on Chub is the fact that he has a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to catch more passes. Now that I think of that, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. They say this about Nick Chubb. They

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<v Speaker 1>say this about Chris Carson. But my, when I watched

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<v Speaker 1>the games right and I see these players play like

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<v Speaker 1>I just to me, Chubb and Carson, these guys aren't

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<v Speaker 1>there average to below average pass catchers. They're not great

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<v Speaker 1>pass catchers. So I feel like they will get their targets.

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<v Speaker 1>But are they gonna get fifty receptions sixty receptions? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think so. Would you say they're gonna get fifty

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<v Speaker 1>sixty receptions? Those two guys, no together, I mean no

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<v Speaker 1>individuals together, No individually each Well no, maybe not, but

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<v Speaker 1>I could definitely see Chubb coming out of this with

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<v Speaker 1>thirty catches. Okay, so if you if he's got thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five forty catches, I mean that just that really limits

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<v Speaker 1>what the Hilliard can do. Yeah, I mean that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that, you know, obviously, listen, every NFL

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<v Speaker 1>team uses a second running back unless like like the

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<v Speaker 1>Giants will probably use Barkley eight eighty five percent at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, But most teams are gonna use they're running

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<v Speaker 1>their lead runner fifty sixty maybe sixty at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's other running backs they get involved. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying, Dontral hill You is gonna get involved because

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<v Speaker 1>you want to keep your your running backs fresh. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to overuse them and then at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the season they burnt out. So Hilliar's gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>his fair share. And I think it's gonna mostly come

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<v Speaker 1>in the passing game on third downs. It's logical, right, um,

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<v Speaker 1>But Chubb will also get his fair share of targets

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Just because someone's a third down passket pass

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<v Speaker 1>catching back doesn't mean that the lead runner isn't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get targets either, you know, I mean, And it also

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that they're down past. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>have it in their head. A lot of people here

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<v Speaker 1>when they hear, you know, pass catching back or third

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<v Speaker 1>down back, you know they've taken into their mindset that

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<v Speaker 1>that that's gonna be his role all the time, right

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<v Speaker 1>and that you know, like you said, he's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a role, but you know they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna use Chubb or and often to start the season.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just don't see Hill you're having any value

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<v Speaker 1>at all until at least a few games in. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill maybe catch a few passes, but you're probably looking

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<v Speaker 1>at four to six touches of max a week right now,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, minimal touches. I'm not saying we should draft

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<v Speaker 1>this guy in deeper leagues. Maybe at the very end

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<v Speaker 1>you want to take a shot. But also you don't

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<v Speaker 1>forget cream Hunt comes back, uh, you know, week ten

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, So that could steal a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of pass catchy work from top. But we'll come right back.

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<v Speaker 1>people and they always pushed back and they go, well

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<v Speaker 1>what about this? What about my guys? Why are asking

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<v Speaker 1>me that you could disagree or you have a different viewpoints?

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<v Speaker 1>So are you asking me? I don't want to argue

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I'm not here to fight. Maybe he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like this guy. I'm like dude who had

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes last year, who won thousands of pun thousands

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<v Speaker 1>that dad? All right? I'm learning dead. Turning out to Dore.

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<v Speaker 1>You made you welcome back fancy Football Frenzy on a Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm glad, Jim you brought up the the past

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<v Speaker 1>catching back, not the dad biding. I just killed that dad.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way nine out of ten. Ryan now was

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<v Speaker 1>like seven out of ten. All right, I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys. Keep this up. I am literally going to

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<v Speaker 1>come to that studio and ncap both of you. I

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<v Speaker 1>want that to happen. I want to see you come

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<v Speaker 1>to the studio. I would love to see you in.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep doing that, you might just get your wish. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't like the dam day Apparently, I'm not a millennial.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm past that thirty two years old. Then stop acting

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<v Speaker 1>like I like messing with the millennials. Um So, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad you brought up the past catching thing because I

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<v Speaker 1>did a draft recently which was a good friend of

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<v Speaker 1>mine and a young kid who's looking to become, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an analyst in fantasy sports and sports in general. He

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<v Speaker 1>has a website called Sony plus dot com that's s

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<v Speaker 1>S Sony plus dot com, and I did a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>with him last night. We did a draft. I was

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<v Speaker 1>in his home league, and it seemed like all the

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<v Speaker 1>kids in his league, we're drafting everybody else except these

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<v Speaker 1>valuable pass catching running backs. It's a PPR league by

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<v Speaker 1>the Bay one point PPR. They were all falling down

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<v Speaker 1>the draft board. There was a ton of running back

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<v Speaker 1>value in that draft. I I don't think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people realize the concept that, like, the pass catching

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<v Speaker 1>backs are very valuable, just because they're the backup doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that the lead runner is always the better running back.

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<v Speaker 1>Duke Johnson went in the seventh round of this draft.

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<v Speaker 1>End of the seventh round. That's a steel right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the guys the starting running back right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a great pass catcher. Um you had obviously

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<v Speaker 1>Terri Cohen, guys like James White and uh Austin Ekeler.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventh round, eighth round. This is this is where they

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<v Speaker 1>were going in this draft where you're seeing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the expert or analyst drafts, they go a little

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<v Speaker 1>higher than that fifth, sixth. So you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people realize the concept that pass

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<v Speaker 1>catching backs dird down backs, or sometimes they just split carries. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know exactly what the touches are gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>The volume obviously volume is king, but you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>because the guy's a lead runner doesn't mean he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be an RB two or uh he's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>the better running back on the team. That he's splitting

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<v Speaker 1>carries with it just means that he's the starting running back.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the one that's gonna get the carries earlier on

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<v Speaker 1>the other guy could have just as many touches in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. So I want people to realize that and

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<v Speaker 1>not just say, oh, I'm taking this guy because he's

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<v Speaker 1>the starting running back. You know, do your research and

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly what's going on, uh with you know, running

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<v Speaker 1>back situations, because sometimes it could get foggy. Uh and

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<v Speaker 1>that's how value falls down the board. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>running backs went super late and it was unnecessary, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because the Chicago Bears again draft in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighth round. The Bears defense. That's a big no no,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Uh well, yeah, like what you're saying. Dontrell

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<v Speaker 1>Hilly yesterday catches thirty touchdown to Marius Thomas seven catches

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<v Speaker 1>eighty seven yards, two touchdowns yesterday. Are we buying this,

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<v Speaker 1>George Kurtz, Are you buying to Marius Thomas? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>someone you might now take a look at in drafts?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I buying to Marius Thomas because he had a

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<v Speaker 1>big game in Week four of the preseason against a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of nobody, Yes, Uh, listen, you want to take

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<v Speaker 1>him last round? You know, dartboard, throw mud against the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>See if it sticks. I've gotten I never have a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with that. I don't care that drafted Chris Venture

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<v Speaker 1>in the last round. Give a shot. Maybe Chris can

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<v Speaker 1>have a big year. You never know, lighted up through.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, I mean the same Chris Venture that's

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<v Speaker 1>now in Sports Illustrated today, am I Yeah, very good.

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<v Speaker 1>You had your right up in there from our our

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<v Speaker 1>auction who did the write up? Because I forgot to

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<v Speaker 1>do the right up I was on. I apologize. We

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<v Speaker 1>were gonna talk about that. Yeah, well, well we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But George, go ahead. Finished what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh to Thomas, Right, Okay, So that's I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with anybody drafting anyway. The last I never

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<v Speaker 1>do nearly anybody you want to take. Uh, there was

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<v Speaker 1>the first guy you're gonna move on from anyway, when

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, the hot guy, or when you're

0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the bye weeks come you need that filler. Oh, I

0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.560
<v Speaker 1>don't want to play with twelve, you know, eight guys

0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:22.880
<v Speaker 1>that week instead of nine, So I gotta release this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the first guy you move on from So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have an issue with it. Do I think

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<v Speaker 1>there could be something there? Hey, you never know. But

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<v Speaker 1>now that Josh Gordon's back, I mean, even if everything

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<v Speaker 1>goes right, Edelman is going to get his assuming that

0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:35.960
<v Speaker 1>injury from last night, it's not all that bad. James White,

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<v Speaker 1>who we just talked about's gonna get his. Uh, Gordon's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get his. The deep shots there, Thomas caught the ball,

0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.120
<v Speaker 1>but he looked like look like De's Bryant at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>There no separation. He's gonna catch the book. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger body. Is that speed's gone? So you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a few few and four between the big plays here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not overly excited to get him. No, But

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<v Speaker 1>do I think there could be a role for him? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>But then again he might be cut today also, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean after that performance, I'd be surprised if he

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<v Speaker 1>gets cut. But like, who is the third wide receiver

0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.520
<v Speaker 1>on this team, Josh Gordon, Julian Edelman? Is it the

0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Marius Thomas or healthy? And that's that's what it looked

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<v Speaker 1>like to me. It looked like he wasn't fully a dent.

0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Sure that he was ready to go. Uh, there were

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times he pulled up afterwards and you

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<v Speaker 1>can almost see him like want to reach for the leg,

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<v Speaker 1>like it wasn't quite right. And I think that's where

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<v Speaker 1>he's at right now. I'm just not sure he's a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent certain that it's gonna hold up if he

0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:37.200
<v Speaker 1>starts playing at full speed. So yeah, look, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing. I don't think they cut him because of

0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.920
<v Speaker 1>their needs at wide receiver. Um, if if he can

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<v Speaker 1>hold out a little bit longer, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he'll get a slow start to the season,

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<v Speaker 1>but look, if he comes on, you know, even from

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<v Speaker 1>like week three on, you're still going to get a

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<v Speaker 1>serviceable wide receiver. And like George says, he's cost you nothing. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you can grab him in the last round or grab

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<v Speaker 1>him in the second the last round, because you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>grab day Ogawally with your last round pick. Uh. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>those two picks at the end of the draft, why not,

0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.600
<v Speaker 1>they're all dart throws. Anyway, this is a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>has a history, he knows the game. Uh, if he

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<v Speaker 1>gets healthy in this New England offense, heck, he could

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<v Speaker 1>be the number two if Josh Gordon decides to walk

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<v Speaker 1>off the field and we three, we just don't know

0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.760
<v Speaker 1>at this point, but is he worth a dart throw? Absolutely? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So they and I like that you mentioned dare ogonowly.

0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I pronounced that perfectly nice. Alright, So these two guys

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<v Speaker 1>are becoming, uh you know, new additions to the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the draft board. Uh, you know, flyers last round

0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.960
<v Speaker 1>picks that you could potentially get some you know, production

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<v Speaker 1>out of. So Marius Thomas, for those of you who

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<v Speaker 1>are young and don't know, this guy, used to be

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best war season in the league, Like

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<v Speaker 1>this guy on Denver, Like I remember at times he

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<v Speaker 1>was like I'm choosing between Leo Jones into Marries Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>in my draft at one point. Like he was that

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<v Speaker 1>good in his prime, but he fell off pretty quickly

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<v Speaker 1>and now he's just pretty much an afterthought. But yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>he showed flashes of still having what it takes to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe give you some production new England offense that's looking

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<v Speaker 1>better than it did before, you know, before the preseason started. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll see what happens with that. Other things that

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<v Speaker 1>stood out to me that might have potential in fantasy

0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:34.840
<v Speaker 1>leagues or Ogoomba Wally Uh eight rushes nine yards, not

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<v Speaker 1>very good on the ground, but you get two catches

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<v Speaker 1>for seventeen yards. Um. It looks like he might be

0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.160
<v Speaker 1>the past catching back here in Tampa Bay. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>chance that he who win that role, and Ronald Jones

0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:51.360
<v Speaker 1>and Payton Barber will be splitting carries as the lead runner,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, between the tackles runner. I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens with that. Another dark throw might

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<v Speaker 1>be worth the shot in PPR leagues past catching back

0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:05.960
<v Speaker 1>right there. Uh, Jordan's scarlett the handcuffed too. Christian McCaffrey

0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:07.840
<v Speaker 1>looks like right now not a lot of people talk

0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:09.680
<v Speaker 1>about and burn deeper leagues. It's a guy you can

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<v Speaker 1>draft in the late rounds. Eleven carries twenty two yards,

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<v Speaker 1>not great in the ground, but did have three catches

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<v Speaker 1>twenty yards in a touchdown. Paris Campbell for the Colts

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<v Speaker 1>had three catches forty two yards. Haskins ten for seventeen

0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.320
<v Speaker 1>hundred four yards in a touchdown. And a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>I really like, but nobody drafts. And he's really probably

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna get a lot of burn when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to the Baltimore Ravens running backs is kenn Of Dixon

0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:34.000
<v Speaker 1>thirteen carries sixty six yards. I I love this guy

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<v Speaker 1>when he was coming in because he was great past catcher,

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<v Speaker 1>talented kid. Just go. He's just been getting hurt every

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<v Speaker 1>single season that he's played and at this point you

0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:45.119
<v Speaker 1>can't rely on him. So uh, you know, he's an afterthought.

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<v Speaker 1>But somebody maybe to keep on the watch list. Will

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens in Baltimore. But right now it's mark

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<v Speaker 1>Ingram and Justice Hill looking to lead that running back crew.

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<v Speaker 1>Any last thoughts about preseason before we had to break guys, George,

0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:03.560
<v Speaker 1>it's over, Thank god, that's Jim. Hey, I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>one thing. Look, I'll be honest, Daniel Jones looks so

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<v Speaker 1>much better to me than I expected. Um, he just does.

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<v Speaker 1>He throws with such nice accuracy, He throws with touch.

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<v Speaker 1>He you know, is not hesitant when he gets him

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<v Speaker 1>once he lets the ball go, he lets it go.

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<v Speaker 1>He is surprising the heck out of me. I am

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<v Speaker 1>I have been very pretesment what I've seen from this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been doing good. I still think it's a bad

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<v Speaker 1>pick though. You talk about the draft, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>come right back starting quarterback for the next ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>It won't see it big then. Full time fantasy boys

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<v Speaker 1>never really there on my radar. It's not that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like him. I do like Tyland Boyd, and I

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<v Speaker 1>really like him for the first four or five weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in round five where you would take him,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been taking a running back. Okay, I think even

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<v Speaker 1>the receivers too. Again, it depends who's on the board.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm trying to think I have I might

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<v Speaker 1>DFS slate, so check that out. Um, let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>back Welcome back, first of all, to fantasy football frenzy.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into the the Chargers, Los Angeles Chargers, who

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<v Speaker 1>uh that that team has a ton of fantasy weapons here, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is why they they don't really want or

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<v Speaker 1>need to orfer Melvin Gordon a deal. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be just fine offensively without him. I think a

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:42.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of people feel that way. So let's break it down.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with the the running backs, where you have

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<v Speaker 1>the Melvin Gordon situation. There was a report that said

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<v Speaker 1>that Melvin you know, might be there for week one

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<v Speaker 1>to hold that one week one, But I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe that. That was not a report that was

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<v Speaker 1>exactly yeah, and it was just part of something else.

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<v Speaker 1>And his opinion was he thought he would be in

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<v Speaker 1>for week one. Now I don't like that. Yeah, And

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 1>of course it got all blown up. Everybody's reporting that

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<v Speaker 1>Melvin Gordon is gonna be in for week one. Now, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it. I don't believe it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's clickbait. There's a lot of clickbait out there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the days exactly everything is fake. No, no,

0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:29.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not true. Not everything is fake, but a lot

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 1>of things are. Most everything is except for us. We're real.

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Where all give it to you real? Even Chris that's true. Yeah, no, true,

0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:41.199
<v Speaker 1>that's true. Everybody I tell you I like I draft.

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you right now I have Josh Allen almost

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:47.159
<v Speaker 1>every team I've drafted so far. We'll see how it

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 1>works at backup Q. He's real, he's I may lose

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:55.439
<v Speaker 1>every league. Actually, you know what I'm doing great and

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 1>fantasy baseball this year. I'll tell you that I'm in

0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:00.199
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs four to six leagues and kill in it.

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>But it's football season, so it's hard to manage both.

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:06.440
<v Speaker 1>People don't realize that that right now is the baseball playoffs,

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's really more important than what's going on in

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 1>football right now. But we're talking about the Los Angeles

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 1>charges here, all right, Melvin Gordon, Uh, we know the

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.199
<v Speaker 1>situation here at this point, it looks like he's falling

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 1>further and further. Uh fifth round right now, I'd say

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 1>it is where he's he's going in that range. But

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of you know, it depends on the draft.

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Like in a homely draft, he might go in the

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 1>third round or the seventh round. I've seen him go.

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 1>He's going in. His range of outcomes is freaking us over.

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:41.159
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you something. Let's see Melvin Gordon trying to

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 1>find it right now. He's gone everywhere from thirty ninth

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>to sixty second. So you're talking to beginning of the

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 1>fourth round to the sixth round in a lot in

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 1>the most current full time fantasy uh, you know, overall rankings.

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>So his range of outcomes and if you start adding

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<v Speaker 1>in you know, local leagues or you know leagues among

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 1>people that just do it for fun like we used

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:10.119
<v Speaker 1>to um, then you're you're looking at the range of

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 1>outcomes is even gonna be wider because there's gonna be

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that don't know what's going on.

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.400
<v Speaker 1>There's gonna be a lot of other people see the headlines.

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.400
<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna be a camp and bail on him.

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>So the range is gonna be huge. Yeah, absolutely, because

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously we don't know. I still think Zeke

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>has a better chance than Melvin Gordon of playing uh

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 1>week one. I just I just don't see Melvin going

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 1>playing at all the season. I don't think the charges

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>are gonna do anything. I don't think they're gonna give

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>him what he wants. It's just not gonna happen. Uh,

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 1>So he can't, he can't stay out the whole season.

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I've tried to read everything I could on this so far,

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 1>and from all indications I can find, and remember, we

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.120
<v Speaker 1>thought to this about Bell as you two. But from

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.919
<v Speaker 1>every indication I could find, and the people that wrote this,

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:56.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're talking to ESPN, you know, all the

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>big sites are saying he has to be in by

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 1>week ten to get as as an accrued season so

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>he can become a free agent at the end of

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the year. Well, okay, so he has to he has

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>to come in at some point. But what happened with

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Bell last year, didn't he also have to do the

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:13.719
<v Speaker 1>same thing. No, he wasn't under contract and he'd already

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>had enough accrude time, so it you know, it's a

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>different situation. Alright, good, thank you for clarifying that. So

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:23.679
<v Speaker 1>he has to all right, well, I could see him

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.680
<v Speaker 1>missing a good portion of the season at least, That's

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>where I'm with you. Yeah, so you have if you

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:32.359
<v Speaker 1>want to. I would say this if similar to like

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about Zeke last week. We said, you know,

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 1>if you're in one league and it's a big money

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 1>league and that's the only league you're in, don't take

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>the chance, play it safe, go a different route. I

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 1>would say the same thing here with Melvin Gordon, of course,

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:48.119
<v Speaker 1>but if you're in ten leagues and you want to

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:52.640
<v Speaker 1>draft him in one maybe two, I would say that

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 1>one maybe two out of the ten. Uh. And I

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:58.959
<v Speaker 1>mean because you know what, why you know what. I

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:01.199
<v Speaker 1>understand what you're trying to say, But my question is

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 1>why why take the risk at this point when you

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 1>know there's just we just every negative news. I'm with you, Zeke,

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I do If Zeke is not in week one, I

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna be in week two because if he's

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>not there week one, the Giants took Gona, spank Dallas

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>and Jerry Jones is gonna freak out, So so I

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>expect him back by week too. Gordon, we can absolutely

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:28.120
<v Speaker 1>see a retract, you know, a long extended time off

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>here for him, and Nan scares me. And at that point,

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's the same thing as looking at Kareem

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Hunt coming back in week ten, right, you don't you

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>tell everybody not to draft him. Seventh and eighth round

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>is way too early. Well, at this point, I'm looking

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the same thing for Gordon. Okay, So if you're looking

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 1>at it like that, then yeah, because Kareem Hunt right

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>now is getting drafted in the double digit rounds, so

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>you know you're you're getting him at the end because

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, for effect, he's not coming back to like

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>week ten, whereas Melvin Gordon you don't know for sure,

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>but everything's pointing in that direction. And I get it

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>only reason why I say one out of ten. So

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>let's say you play ten leagues. Maybe you're cheapest league,

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>you're ten dollar league. You want to take a chance

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.959
<v Speaker 1>on Melvin Gordon in the fifth round or something like that.

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 1>He's sticking out to you. You know, I take one

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 1>chance maybe in a in a cheap league like that,

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>but otherwise it's hard to touch him. Now. You do

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>have these running backs that are there right now, and

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 1>that's Austin Ekeler and Justin Jackson. Austin Ekeler being the

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 1>one that everybody would rather have right now. He's going

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>higher in drafts. He's going in the six, fifth, six,

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>seventh round range, sixth round range. Um. He's a great

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>pass catcher, as you could tell from last season. Had

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>fifty three targets, thirty nine catches, four hundred and four yards,

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>three touchdowns through the air, three touchdowns on the ground.

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 1>He also did well on the ground five point two

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>yards to carry five hundred and fifty four yards on

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>a hundred six carries. This guy could get it done.

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>He's talented. Let me jump in here. There's a few stats. Again,

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>this is from Throw Football Focus. Not for me. I

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.719
<v Speaker 1>am not this smart um Austin Ekeler. Last year, he

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 1>ranked six out of six one running backs in PF

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>grade with an eighty three point sixth grade very good grade,

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>six out of sixty one. He was seventh out of

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 1>fifty six running backs in elusive rating. He was six

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 1>out of fifty six running backs in yards per carry average,

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>seventh out of thirty one running backs in yards per

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>target average, and all of those numbers were better than

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Melvin Gordon's. Just say, yep, they have it. That's the

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>thing he's like, he's great pass catching ability. I think

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you know he's that elusive Ward Nett. You know he

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like a Duke Johnson thing. I thought that Justin

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Jackson was going to be the guy who was gonna

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 1>get all the early down work and the goal line work.

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Now I still think he gets a decent amount of

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 1>coal line work, But so far, Austin Ekeler, when given

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>the chance, has looked so much better as a running

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 1>back than Justin Jackson has. So I'm I'm at the

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>point where I'm buying all in on Ekeler, and I'm

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>leaving Justin Jackson down quite a bit in my rankings

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>because of it. Uh, he may get some of those touchdowns,

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>but Eckler has just looked so much more explosive than

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Jackson has. Right, Yeah, I'm I'm with you all the way,

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and I was with and the same thing you said

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>about um, Justin Jackson looked like he was gonna be

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>the early down guy and Ekeler be more of the

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>past catching and you know he'll also get carries. He

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>had a hundred and six less year. He did very

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>well with them. He did better than Justin Jackson with them.

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, five point two yards per carry um.

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>But it looks like this he's just a better back overall.

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I know he's he's five ten, two hundred pounds. Now,

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean he like he can't take a full workload. Uh.

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 1>You know DeVonta Freeman does that and he's only two

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>under five pounds. He's a little heavier. But Ekeler has

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>just more dynamic I feel like abilities than Justin and Jackson.

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Justin Jackson right now, like he's got the pass catching ability,

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>he's elusive. Uh. You know, he's shifted, he's agile, He's

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of things you covered in uh in

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>a running back. So I think this guy right now

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 1>is kind of a Steel George. Where he's going uh

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 1>in that sixth round range. Uh? And like I said,

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the last draft, I didn't in a home league type

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>of draft. He went in the mid to late seventh rounds.

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a steel right there. That's a great value. Well,

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>mid to late seventh rounds certainly. Yeah, sixth value steel

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>their sex is still a good value. I mean it's

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>starting running back for a team that we expect to

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 1>be very good. Assume they don't all end up on

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>I L. So I have no problem with Austin club.

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to be a good, solid running back.

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 1>We know what the charges are doing, but they don't

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 1>believe in paying a running back they have. They have

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 1>low balled Gordon. They did all from a deal one year,

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>ten million. That's a low bowl offer. Uh, Gordon knows it.

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty much told him all They all he needed

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>to know about how the charges feel about him. They

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 1>feel he can be replaced, and I'm not really necessary

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>blaming the charge. They have other contracts they have to

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>worry about. Philip Rivers needs to be resigned. He's gonna

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>make thirty million a year next year or whatever it

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>might be. They have defensive place who need to be resigned.

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>They have good backups. This is not the same situation

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 1>as Dallas where zeke. There really is Apollo who knows

0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>charges have good backups, so that this is where they're

0:32:59.880 --> 0:33:01.719
<v Speaker 1>going with him here. Like Jimm said earlier, I think

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Gordon does come back, but I think it's week don

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>you know. I don't think it's coming back anytime soon.

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 1>So the only way I want Gordon is if I

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>if I'm want return later in drift, I get good

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>at extra back to back, I would think about doing

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>that round six seven, round seven eight if I can

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>last that long. That's interesting. Right on the turn you

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 1>take them back to back, you lock up. You know

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Chargers running backs basically beside Justin Jackson, which you can

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>get at the end of the draft. Really in double

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>dige a round. So we'll be right back fasty football friends,

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>you continue the charges talk, didn't Dave? George Kurtzy Boy?

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:35.080
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<v Speaker 1>moved Dante Pettis at all. I got convinced that, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>he's extremely talented, he's an early round traffic. He was

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<v Speaker 1>great towards the end of the last season. None of

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<v Speaker 1>that's changed. But he's healthy he's still is talented and healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's dealing with like this groin injury right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>like he played entire preceson game, they pull him out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're playing him deep into the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're trying to use it as a as

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<v Speaker 1>a motivational tactic, but it seems like they almost hurt

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<v Speaker 1>themselves and hurt Dante Pettis by doing so. What the

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<v Speaker 1>Look at my look at look at song choice like

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to Jim. Do you know they just grab

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<v Speaker 1>you know those lyrics. It's just so deep. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like anything that's not real music. I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>a damn Jim. Please. Yeah, you keep looking, it's not happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. Fancy football. Frenzy were talking Los Angeles Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>UM and we talked about the running backs Austin Ekeler,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we said, we like the value their sixth round

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<v Speaker 1>if you can get him there, uh any later, any

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<v Speaker 1>later's great value, I think, and uh George mentioned a

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:38.879
<v Speaker 1>good point. I think if Melvin Gordon falls that far

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 1>and you could do it back to back Melvin Gordon

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>aust Ecle thing. The problem is, I just feel like

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Melvin Gordon might end up being being a wasted pick.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll see what happens. So much draft capital and

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<v Speaker 1>invested that early for those two picks, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Neckler will have a little of his own value,

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:58.359
<v Speaker 1>but if Gordon is back, that value takes a massive hit.

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he could still end up is a running

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<v Speaker 1>back too, So it's not terrible, but I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>need both of them to hit for that strategy to

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 1>work with that much draft capital and invested. Yeah, you

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>definitely need that to hit. And like I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>would do that in something like one or two like

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<v Speaker 1>something with the Gordon thing. I would do that and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one or two, uh dress if I can. You

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>gotta get both at the same time. I would be

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>more interested in trying to Gordon Jackson thing. They're just

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 1>because I don't have to spend that high on Eckler

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<v Speaker 1>with Jackson, you know, I mean, I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a tough situation. Back to back with Gordon and Eckler.

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:37.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that at all there's three running backs there,

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and one is the is the guy, and he's not there,

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:42.359
<v Speaker 1>he's holding out. And then you've got two other ones

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<v Speaker 1>that could be very useful. But Eckler looks like the

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<v Speaker 1>most useful and that's why he's going higher. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a messy situation, but I honestly would just say take Eckler.

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I would take Eckler. I want Eckler the most right now. Um,

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the best value. Anyway, Let's go to

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the Let's go to the war receivers here in l A.

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<v Speaker 1>And I absolutely love one of them. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>like Keenan Allen. Allen is a very very good wide receiver. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's had his injury injuries in the past,

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 1>he's had a history with that, but he's been, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pretty solid with that past couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>right Jim. Yeah. The one thing with Alan note and

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of weird. I really want to go back

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<v Speaker 1>and check this, but I was looking through some stuff

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday and I made a note at some point in

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<v Speaker 1>the past where I wanted to look at the numbers

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>closer and just haven't done it yet. Time has been

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<v Speaker 1>like the killer. These days. But uh, I made a

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<v Speaker 1>note at one point about how he starts off kind

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<v Speaker 1>of slow in the beginning of the season and then

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<v Speaker 1>really ramps it up at the end of the season. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to go back and check the numbers fully,

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 1>but at some point I had noted that, So I

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<v Speaker 1>really want to look at that. I'll have an answer

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<v Speaker 1>for you next week, but I gotta go look go

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<v Speaker 1>back and look at the numbers. But I remember seeing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that he did seem to get off to

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<v Speaker 1>a slow start the last couple of years, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go back pass that and see if that

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 1>was a trend from even before that, right, right, because

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:05.760
<v Speaker 1>if that is a trend that needs a slow starter.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, you know, then that might could be. I

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 1>mean we do this a lot in base yeah by

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<v Speaker 1>low candidate, uh you know, at some point in the season,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe week five or something like that. I don't know,

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 1>but you know we do this a lot in baseball.

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:21.799
<v Speaker 1>George could have tested this where you know, you have

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<v Speaker 1>your slow starters. Mark two. Sharer was notorious for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and you know you draft or you wouldn't draft

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<v Speaker 1>him and try to trade for him mid season. Those

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 1>type of guys that start slow and they pick it

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<v Speaker 1>up in the second half when it gets warmer. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess a similar thing here was Keenan Allen. I

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you this the last two years. Last year

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<v Speaker 1>at nine hundred thirty six targets ninety seven catches, eleven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety six yards almost basically twelve hundred yards

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<v Speaker 1>and six touchdowns. Year before, hundred fifty nine targets, a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred two catches, thirteen ninety three yards and six touchdowns

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:59.319
<v Speaker 1>almost fourteen hundred yards. There it was sixteen fifteen where

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 1>he had a you know, he was dealing with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of injuries. He only played eight games, only one

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I remember that in uh, and he was done. He

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 1>got he got hurt pretty bad. I remember on a

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<v Speaker 1>play I think it was Week one. So um, but

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>this guy, you know, he's a steady in PPR, he's steady.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets a ton of catches nineties seven and a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and to the past two years. That's elite. Um.

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:25.799
<v Speaker 1>The yardage is pretty much elite. I guess the only

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 1>thing you would say is the touchdowns. He's never cracked

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 1>double digit touchdowns. But touchdowns, yeah right. He's not a

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Renzo guy though, I wouldn't put that against him. There's

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys I like that. Julio Jones. Look, look,

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not putting Julio down, but for whatever reason, you

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:48.400
<v Speaker 1>know it, getting touchdowns has always been slim for him.

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 1>He's not a guy who throughout his history has caught

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<v Speaker 1>ten eleven touchdowns every year. You're talking about Julio, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. Now I gotta tell you though, because obviously

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 1>you know we all watched the games. I I've had

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 1>a Julio every single season he's been in the league,

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:05.400
<v Speaker 1>of course, but like, it's just it doesn't make sense

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 1>that he's not a touchdown guy because he's huge. It's

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>just they don't target him there in some seasons they didn't.

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:14.760
<v Speaker 1>The one season where they had Dirk Cutter, which who

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 1>he is now back on the team, he had ten touchdowns.

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.840
<v Speaker 1>He had his only double digit touchdown season. He should

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 1>be used. That's the thing. These bigger guys should. They

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:28.360
<v Speaker 1>should be Enzo targets. The bigger guys are usually logically

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the end zone or red zone targets, and Keenan Allen

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:35.360
<v Speaker 1>is six to two eleven, He's a big guy. He

0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:36.879
<v Speaker 1>he could get targeted the end so I could see

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>him having a ten touchdown season. Why not touchdowns? Sometimes

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 1>it's just a flukey thing. But he did have six

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>back to back season, so you gotta assume more than

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 1>likely he's not gonna crack ten. But if he does,

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about top five wire receivers here. I mean,

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the numbers in terms of receptions and yards

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 1>that he has. So he's always capability. He always has

0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.799
<v Speaker 1>that capability. The only thing you really gotta worry about

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 1>what him is I guess you know, because he has

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that injury history and we've seen he's dealing with injury

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:08.920
<v Speaker 1>in preseason. You worry about that a little bit. But

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 1>he's still a pretty safe pick. The Chargers offense is

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:14.280
<v Speaker 1>very good. He's the number one target in that offense.

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry about Keenan Allen. You want to take him

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:20.319
<v Speaker 1>in this middle second round, late second round by all means, uh,

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:22.319
<v Speaker 1>do it because he's that type of receiver. He's that

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 1>good um and the offense is that good. My big

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Mike Williams is the guy I kind of want more. Uh,

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.879
<v Speaker 1>he's going later, of course, he's going high and high.

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:35.399
<v Speaker 1>The hype is real with all these guys, all these

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 1>second year wid receiver, well not second year Mike Williams

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 1>is the third year wid receiver. Actually, he's going too

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>high for you, Jim. He's too high. He's absolutely too high.

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Look again, round we're talking late fourth round, early fifth round.

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:51.279
<v Speaker 1>If you're lucky, I can't do it. Um. Look, I

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:54.680
<v Speaker 1>love the ten touchdowns, but those numbers were so inflated

0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Speaker 1>last year that you have to wonder if he can

0:43:56.800 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 1>do it again. Um, you know, his number of receptions

0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>to number of touchdowns just don't meet. Well, there's too

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:09.840
<v Speaker 1>big a discrepancy there. Thirty three of his fantasy points

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 1>came off touchdowns. Um, you know, and that to me,

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 1>that's just a too big a percentage. And I think

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 1>there's definitely room for regression there, especially now that Henry

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Hunter and damn I always getting backward tight end is there,

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Henry is there in his playing with him. Now, this

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:33.880
<v Speaker 1>is a guy who definitely always had a good report

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:36.960
<v Speaker 1>with Rivers, was always a good red zone threat with Rivers.

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna take some of that off of

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Mike Williams. Plate the way Mike Williams has to get better.

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:44.719
<v Speaker 1>He has to get more receptions and I'm just not

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:48.479
<v Speaker 1>sure he's gonna see a ton more receptions. See that. Now,

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I get the thing what you're saying right now, But

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 1>let's make this clear to everybody right now. Um, the

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:58.200
<v Speaker 1>targets last year, that's the thing here. Okay, he had four,

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 1>he had sixty six targets. That's not uh, he was

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 1>a wire receiver three last year barely. I mean it

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:08.120
<v Speaker 1>was Tyrrell Williams and it was Keenan Allen Hunter. Henry

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 1>obviously missed the whole season. Yes, Hunter Henry's back, but

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Tyrell Williams is gone. So really, to me, there's three

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>major targets in this offense. It's Keenan Allen Hunter Henry

0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 1>and Mike Williams. Austin Ekeler and whoever else comes out

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:22.120
<v Speaker 1>of the backfield will get their little share of targets

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:24.319
<v Speaker 1>as well, but those are gonna be the big three guys.

0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 1>And I love these offenses that are good offenses that

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:29.880
<v Speaker 1>have a trio of targets. I think big Mike Williams

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 1>because of the price that you're getting him at two,

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking him early fifth. We pull him up to

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 1>the early fourth. I think the targets go up I

0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:39.360
<v Speaker 1>know touch ten touch on is a lot for a

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 1>guy only had sixty six targets and didn't play a

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of snaps, But those targets should go up too

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 1>close to a hundred maybe more this year. Okay, he's

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:50.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna be starting. He's a starter now. He wasn't a

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 1>really starter last year. You know he's moving up to

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the Only problem I have with that is that you

0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 1>know which Rivers do we see um Rivers through the

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>least amount of passes last year that he's thrown since,

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:08.839
<v Speaker 1>like you, I don't know two thousand nine. I think

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I only attempted five and eight passes last year because

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>the defense is so good, because they got a good

0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 1>running game. Now you know they lost Darwin James, so

0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:21.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe that takes a hit on their defense. So maybe

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>the game script turns a little bit more in the

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:27.680
<v Speaker 1>favor of Philip Rivers. Don't forget Melvin Gordon. Without Melvin

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Gordon are probably gonna throw the ball a lot more too. Well,

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:33.400
<v Speaker 1>we'll see. I mean, it really does depend on these

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.359
<v Speaker 1>guys behind him and whether or not they are good

0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 1>enough to supplant Melvin Gordon in the role. And that's

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:41.879
<v Speaker 1>what it really comes down to you're playing Russian Roulette there.

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 1>But man, look, you guys know I love Mike Williams.

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 1>I was all over him last year. I love what

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 1>he brought to the table and I still do. I

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 1>just think his a DP is too high for my

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:54.720
<v Speaker 1>liking right now. I only have him in a couple

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:58.319
<v Speaker 1>of leagues because everybody's buying into him, and man, I

0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>want to see more receptions before I buy into him

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 1>that high. I just do it is it is a

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 1>high price tag. What do you think, George about big

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Mike Williams here and his price tag? I mean, I

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 1>like Mike Tyrell is no longer there. Running game is

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:12.920
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be the same without Melvin Gordon, So theoretically

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 1>there should be more balls going to him, not a

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:17.839
<v Speaker 1>lot more balls. Was Keenan Allen still banged up? Uh?

0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Hard may to rely on him being healthy with sixteen

0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:22.759
<v Speaker 1>games either, Uh, Mike Williams sort of the anti Keenan Allen.

0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Keenan Allen's gonna get more volume. Mike Williams likely to

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 1>be more of a red zone threat. That's once again

0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the bigger body theory there. That's what the Philip Rivers

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 1>likes to go to a lot of teams have that.

0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 1>So I like Mike Williams within reason. I mean, to me,

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:36.759
<v Speaker 1>he's on that borderline wide receiver to wide receiver three

0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 1>between that twenty two and uh previous twenty eight range,

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:42.839
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of other white receivers there a lot

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 1>of guys who are in my mind, are just the

0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 1>same as him. But I'm a little higher on him

0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:48.920
<v Speaker 1>than I would have been had the offered state the same.

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, if Melvin Gordon was day where they might

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 1>run the balls same as as last year, even more,

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 1>or if Tyrelle Williams was there once, you gonna get

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 1>three receivers there rather than two now. So I like

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Mike Williams. Yeah, I mean for me, by the way

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 1>to um Jim, you're right. Two thousand nine was the

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:07.840
<v Speaker 1>last time Philip Rivers had less than five hundred and

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 1>eight attempts. Um that would that year he had four

0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:14.920
<v Speaker 1>eighties six he lingers around in his career. Philip burrs

0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 1>around five hundred and seventy attempts. It looks like anywhere

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:21.319
<v Speaker 1>from five fifty to five seventy one year he had

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:23.239
<v Speaker 1>six sixty one. But you don't want to be doing

0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:25.439
<v Speaker 1>that that means you're probably losing a lot of games

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:26.759
<v Speaker 1>or you're down in a lot of games and you

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:29.360
<v Speaker 1>just gotta throw. But at the same time, five o

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 1>eight seems fantasy. Yeah, we like that fantasy, but that's

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Five oh eight seems low for him.

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 1>So I think a regression to the mean this year,

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:41.160
<v Speaker 1>especially for Movin Gordon is not around. You're talking maybe

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:46.799
<v Speaker 1>five uh, And I think that's an assumptions education. But

0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>because look, it really does come down to how big

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 1>of a hit the defense stakes without Darlin James, it

0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:54.720
<v Speaker 1>really does. I mean, the guy is an outstanding player

0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:57.719
<v Speaker 1>for them, one of the leaders on that defense by far.

0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Losing him could hurt. If it hurts a lot, then

0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:03.279
<v Speaker 1>you're right. Then Philip Rivers is throwing the ball more.

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I get that. But if they can make up for

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 1>that with adjustments, and they have a great defensive coordinator,

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:10.920
<v Speaker 1>if anybody can do it, he can do it. So

0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:13.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, I'm not thinking they take as huge

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 1>a hit as everybody else seems to think. And if

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 1>that's the case, then that defense stands up strong again.

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Then Rivers isn't gonna have to I think that defense

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:24.399
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be good. I think it's gonna be good.

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 1>It's just tough for me. You know, I love Mike Williams.

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 1>You know I hate staying away from players I love,

0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:33.279
<v Speaker 1>but I can't. The thing is, I can't do it.

0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I understand. The thing is, it's it's very hard to

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 1>get him. In general. I've already done four or five

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:40.680
<v Speaker 1>league drafts, managed drafts, and I haven't got Mike Williams yet.

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Why because people are pulling him up the board. There's

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 1>no chance to grab him sometimes. Uh So I do

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:47.399
<v Speaker 1>want him, and I will pull him up the board

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:49.439
<v Speaker 1>if I have to, because I do love him that much.

0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe he regresses very little in touchdowns eight

0:49:53.880 --> 0:49:56.319
<v Speaker 1>or nine, but I think the targets go up, the

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:59.400
<v Speaker 1>receptions go up closer to six, and I think the

0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:03.920
<v Speaker 1>yardage come close to a thousand. I'm I'm all, I'm

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 1>all in on the guy. I'm all on the guy.

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Update in the chat, Henry Mudo doing a draft right now.

0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Mike Williams went at six and eleven, a great price.

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't take them as early as I've been seeing him,

0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:19.719
<v Speaker 1>all right, And hunt to Henry, of course, one of

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:21.799
<v Speaker 1>the tier two guys that you want to grab on

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:23.880
<v Speaker 1>the charges as well in this offense. Great offense to have.

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 1>All Right, there, we have it ended the show. Have

0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:28.960
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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want it to plus dot com and I

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<v Speaker 1>I was in his home league, and it seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>league by the Bay one point people are. They were

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<v Speaker 1>all falling down the draft board. There was a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of running back value in that draft. I I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people realize the concept that, like

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<v Speaker 1>the pass catching backs are very valuable, just because they're

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<v Speaker 1>the backup doesn't mean that the lead runner is always

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<v Speaker 1>the better running back. Duke Johnson went in the seventh

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<v Speaker 1>round of this draft. End of the seventh round. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a steel right now. I mean the guys the starting

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<v Speaker 1>running back right now, and he's a great pass catcher.

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<v Speaker 1>Um you had obviously Ter Cohen, guys like James White

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<v Speaker 1>and uh Austin Ekeler. Seventh round, eighth round. This is

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<v Speaker 1>this is where they were going in this draft where

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing a lot of the expert or analyst drafts,

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<v Speaker 1>they go a little higher than that fifth sixth. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think a lot of people realize

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<v Speaker 1>the concept that pass catching backs, third down backs, or

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes they just split carries. Okay, you don't know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what the touches are gonna be the volume. Obviously volume

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<v Speaker 1>is king. But you know, just because the guy's a

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<v Speaker 1>lead runner doesn't mean he's going to be an RB

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<v Speaker 1>two or uh, he's gonna be the better running back

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<v Speaker 1>on the team that he's splitting carries with. It just

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<v Speaker 1>means that he's the starting running back. He's the one

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna get the carries earlier on the other guy

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<v Speaker 1>could have just as many touches in the game. So

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<v Speaker 1>I want people to realize that and not just say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking this guy because he's the starting running back.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, do your research and know exactly what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on uh with you know, running back situations, because sometimes

0:55:31.960 --> 0:55:34.760
<v Speaker 1>it could get foggy, uh and that's how value falls

0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:37.000
<v Speaker 1>down the board. A lot of running backs went super

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:39.600
<v Speaker 1>late and it was unnecessary, uh, you know, because the

0:55:39.680 --> 0:55:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Chicago Bears again draft in the eighth round. The Bears

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:44.960
<v Speaker 1>defense just that's a big no no, no no, you know,

0:55:45.680 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 1>uh well, yeah, like what you're saying. Dontrell Hilly yesterday

0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:54.160
<v Speaker 1>six two catches, thirteen touchdown to Marius Thomas seven catches,

0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:58.879
<v Speaker 1>eighty seven yards, two touchdowns yesterday. Are we buying this,

0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:01.759
<v Speaker 1>George Kurtz? Are you buying ta Marius Thomas? Is he

0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:05.400
<v Speaker 1>someone you might now take a look at in drafts?

0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Am I buying ta Marius Thomas? Because he had a

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:10.319
<v Speaker 1>big game in Week four of the preseason against a

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:14.919
<v Speaker 1>bunch of nobody. Um, listen, you want to take him

0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:18.040
<v Speaker 1>last round? You know, dart board throw mud against the wall.

0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:19.719
<v Speaker 1>See if it sticks. I've gotten I never have a

0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:21.600
<v Speaker 1>problem with that. I don't care that drafted Chris Venture

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 1>in the last round. Give a shot. Maybe Chris can

0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:27.279
<v Speaker 1>have a big year. You never know, light I mean,

0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean the same Chris Venture that's now in Sports

0:56:31.000 --> 0:56:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Illustrated today. Am I Yeah,