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Speaker 1: We're gonna break down. Obviously we did. I can't see
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Speaker 1: us two months, but almost done. I want to do
Speaker 1: the Chargers today, who also went twelve and four like
Speaker 1: the Chiefs last year, but they did not have the
Speaker 1: tie break, so they were a wild card team. Um.
Speaker 1: Charges once again, pretty stacked team, although some may say
Speaker 1: they're unlucky. Uh. They lose Derwin James uh this year
Speaker 1: for the whole season, which is a huge loss for
Speaker 1: them defensively their safety, um, you know, and then you
Speaker 1: have Melvin Gordon's hold out of course, which you know
Speaker 1: just continues to be an issue for everyone fantasy owners alike.
Speaker 1: So yesterday we had the preseason games and I know
Speaker 1: you said. I didn't mean it's born like I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I only watched the Giant game, or parts
Speaker 1: of it, and I saw Paul Paul Perkins cut someone up,
Speaker 1: get it like a ten yard run, and I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm good. I don't I really don't watch
Speaker 1: Paul Perkins. I watched a whole season. And we watched
Speaker 1: the whole season of Paul Perkins as are starting running back,
Speaker 1: which was brutal. That that what must have been the
Speaker 1: worst rushing season for the Giants I've ever seen in
Speaker 1: my thirty two years of his of existence, which I
Speaker 1: just turned thirty two, by the way. So um, you
Speaker 1: know I'm getting all I'm getting up there now, you guys. Um.
Speaker 1: But I guess there was a couple of things that
Speaker 1: stood out yesterday. I'll mention a couple. One thing I
Speaker 1: think it stood I was Donchrill Hi Hilliard, um, who
Speaker 1: looks to be the past catching back possibly for the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. When when the season starts, hat twelve rushes
Speaker 1: sixty five yards, two catches thirteen yards in a t D.
Speaker 1: So we had a nice little game. Wait wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's make sure we're clear on this with
Speaker 1: the people watching and listening to the show. Yes, you're
Speaker 1: saying he's gonna be the past catching back. Possibly, let's
Speaker 1: not forget, and let's make sure we tell everybody in
Speaker 1: case they missed it. This team also wants to get
Speaker 1: Chubb much more involved in the passing game, So to
Speaker 1: call him the receiving back is taking some of that
Speaker 1: off a Chub And right now, that's what's putting the
Speaker 1: glimmer on Chub is the fact that he has a
Speaker 1: chance to catch more passes. Now that I think of that, Now,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. They say this about Nick Chubb. They
Speaker 1: say this about Chris Carson. But my, when I watched
Speaker 1: the games right and I see these players play like
Speaker 1: I just to me, Chubb and Carson, these guys aren't
Speaker 1: there average to below average pass catchers. They're not great
Speaker 1: pass catchers. So I feel like they will get their targets.
Speaker 1: But are they gonna get fifty receptions sixty receptions? I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Would you say they're gonna get fifty
Speaker 1: sixty receptions? Those two guys, no together, I mean no
Speaker 1: individuals together, No individually each Well no, maybe not, but
Speaker 1: I could definitely see Chubb coming out of this with
Speaker 1: thirty catches. Okay, so if you if he's got thirty
Speaker 1: five forty catches, I mean that just that really limits
Speaker 1: what the Hilliard can do. Yeah, I mean that's true.
Speaker 1: I just think that, you know, obviously, listen, every NFL
Speaker 1: team uses a second running back unless like like the
Speaker 1: Giants will probably use Barkley eight eighty five percent at
Speaker 1: the time, But most teams are gonna use they're running
Speaker 1: their lead runner fifty sixty maybe sixty at the time,
Speaker 1: and there's other running backs they get involved. So I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, Dontral hill You is gonna get involved because
Speaker 1: you want to keep your your running backs fresh. You
Speaker 1: don't want to overuse them and then at the end
Speaker 1: of the season they burnt out. So Hilliar's gonna get
Speaker 1: his fair share. And I think it's gonna mostly come
Speaker 1: in the passing game on third downs. It's logical, right, um,
Speaker 1: But Chubb will also get his fair share of targets
Speaker 1: as well. Just because someone's a third down passket pass
Speaker 1: catching back doesn't mean that the lead runner isn't gonna
Speaker 1: get targets either, you know, I mean, And it also
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they're down past. A lot of people
Speaker 1: have it in their head. A lot of people here
Speaker 1: when they hear, you know, pass catching back or third
Speaker 1: down back, you know they've taken into their mindset that
Speaker 1: that that's gonna be his role all the time, right
Speaker 1: and that you know, like you said, he's gonna have
Speaker 1: a little bit of a role, but you know they're
Speaker 1: gonna use Chubb or and often to start the season.
Speaker 1: And I just don't see Hill you're having any value
Speaker 1: at all until at least a few games in. I mean,
Speaker 1: Bill maybe catch a few passes, but you're probably looking
Speaker 1: at four to six touches of max a week right now,
Speaker 1: right right, minimal touches. I'm not saying we should draft
Speaker 1: this guy in deeper leagues. Maybe at the very end
Speaker 1: you want to take a shot. But also you don't
Speaker 1: forget cream Hunt comes back, uh, you know, week ten
Speaker 1: or something like that, So that could steal a lot
Speaker 1: of pass catchy work from top. But we'll come right back.
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Speaker 1: You made you welcome back fancy Football Frenzy on a Friday,
Speaker 1: And I'm glad, Jim you brought up the the past
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Speaker 1: like I like messing with the millennials. Um So, I'm
Speaker 1: glad you brought up the past catching thing because I
Speaker 1: did a draft recently which was a good friend of
Speaker 1: mine and a young kid who's looking to become, you know,
Speaker 1: an analyst in fantasy sports and sports in general. He
Speaker 1: has a website called Sony plus dot com that's s
Speaker 1: S Sony plus dot com, and I did a podcast
Speaker 1: with him last night. We did a draft. I was
Speaker 1: in his home league, and it seemed like all the
Speaker 1: kids in his league, we're drafting everybody else except these
Speaker 1: valuable pass catching running backs. It's a PPR league by
Speaker 1: the Bay one point PPR. They were all falling down
Speaker 1: the draft board. There was a ton of running back
Speaker 1: value in that draft. I I don't think a lot
Speaker 1: of people realize the concept that, like, the pass catching
Speaker 1: backs are very valuable, just because they're the backup doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that the lead runner is always the better running back.
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson went in the seventh round of this draft.
Speaker 1: End of the seventh round. That's a steel right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guys the starting running back right now,
Speaker 1: and he's a great pass catcher. Um you had obviously
Speaker 1: Terri Cohen, guys like James White and uh Austin Ekeler.
Speaker 1: Seventh round, eighth round. This is this is where they
Speaker 1: were going in this draft where you're seeing a lot
Speaker 1: of the expert or analyst drafts, they go a little
Speaker 1: higher than that fifth, sixth. So you know, I don't
Speaker 1: think a lot of people realize the concept that pass
Speaker 1: catching backs dird down backs, or sometimes they just split carries. Okay,
Speaker 1: you don't know exactly what the touches are gonna be.
Speaker 1: The volume obviously volume is king, but you know, just
Speaker 1: because the guy's a lead runner doesn't mean he's going
Speaker 1: to be an RB two or uh he's gonna be
Speaker 1: the better running back on the team. That he's splitting
Speaker 1: carries with it just means that he's the starting running back.
Speaker 1: He's the one that's gonna get the carries earlier on
Speaker 1: the other guy could have just as many touches in
Speaker 1: the game. So I want people to realize that and
Speaker 1: not just say, oh, I'm taking this guy because he's
Speaker 1: the starting running back. You know, do your research and
Speaker 1: know exactly what's going on, uh with you know, running
Speaker 1: back situations, because sometimes it could get foggy. Uh and
Speaker 1: that's how value falls down the board. A lot of
Speaker 1: running backs went super late and it was unnecessary, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, because the Chicago Bears again draft in the
Speaker 1: eighth round. The Bears defense. That's a big no no,
Speaker 1: you know. Uh well, yeah, like what you're saying. Dontrell
Speaker 1: Hilly yesterday catches thirty touchdown to Marius Thomas seven catches
Speaker 1: eighty seven yards, two touchdowns yesterday. Are we buying this,
Speaker 1: George Kurtz, Are you buying to Marius Thomas? Is he
Speaker 1: someone you might now take a look at in drafts?
Speaker 1: Am I buying to Marius Thomas because he had a
Speaker 1: big game in Week four of the preseason against a
Speaker 1: bunch of nobody, Yes, Uh, listen, you want to take
Speaker 1: him last round? You know, dartboard, throw mud against the wall.
Speaker 1: See if it sticks. I've gotten I never have a
Speaker 1: problem with that. I don't care that drafted Chris Venture
Speaker 1: in the last round. Give a shot. Maybe Chris can
Speaker 1: have a big year. You never know, lighted up through.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I mean the same Chris Venture that's
Speaker 1: now in Sports Illustrated today, am I Yeah, very good.
Speaker 1: You had your right up in there from our our
Speaker 1: auction who did the write up? Because I forgot to
Speaker 1: do the right up I was on. I apologize. We
Speaker 1: were gonna talk about that. Yeah, well, well we'll talk
Speaker 1: about it. But George, go ahead. Finished what you're saying,
Speaker 1: Uh to Thomas, Right, Okay, So that's I don't have
Speaker 1: a problem with anybody drafting anyway. The last I never
Speaker 1: do nearly anybody you want to take. Uh, there was
Speaker 1: the first guy you're gonna move on from anyway, when
Speaker 1: you know, you know, the hot guy, or when you're
Speaker 1: the bye weeks come you need that filler. Oh, I
Speaker 1: don't want to play with twelve, you know, eight guys
Speaker 1: that week instead of nine, So I gotta release this guy.
Speaker 1: You know, the first guy you move on from So
Speaker 1: I don't have an issue with it. Do I think
Speaker 1: there could be something there? Hey, you never know. But
Speaker 1: now that Josh Gordon's back, I mean, even if everything
Speaker 1: goes right, Edelman is going to get his assuming that
Speaker 1: injury from last night, it's not all that bad. James White,
Speaker 1: who we just talked about's gonna get his. Uh, Gordon's
Speaker 1: gonna get his. The deep shots there, Thomas caught the ball,
Speaker 1: but he looked like look like De's Bryant at the end.
Speaker 1: There no separation. He's gonna catch the book. He's a
Speaker 1: bigger body. Is that speed's gone? So you're not gonna
Speaker 1: be a few few and four between the big plays here.
Speaker 1: So I'm not overly excited to get him. No, But
Speaker 1: do I think there could be a role for him? Sure?
Speaker 1: But then again he might be cut today also, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean after that performance, I'd be surprised if he
Speaker 1: gets cut. But like, who is the third wide receiver
Speaker 1: on this team, Josh Gordon, Julian Edelman? Is it the
Speaker 1: Marius Thomas or healthy? And that's that's what it looked
Speaker 1: like to me. It looked like he wasn't fully a dent.
Speaker 1: Sure that he was ready to go. Uh, there were
Speaker 1: a couple of times he pulled up afterwards and you
Speaker 1: can almost see him like want to reach for the leg,
Speaker 1: like it wasn't quite right. And I think that's where
Speaker 1: he's at right now. I'm just not sure he's a
Speaker 1: hundred percent certain that it's gonna hold up if he
Speaker 1: starts playing at full speed. So yeah, look, it's a
Speaker 1: good thing. I don't think they cut him because of
Speaker 1: their needs at wide receiver. Um, if if he can
Speaker 1: hold out a little bit longer, and then you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll get a slow start to the season,
Speaker 1: but look, if he comes on, you know, even from
Speaker 1: like week three on, you're still going to get a
Speaker 1: serviceable wide receiver. And like George says, he's cost you nothing. Now,
Speaker 1: you can grab him in the last round or grab
Speaker 1: him in the second the last round, because you're gonna
Speaker 1: grab day Ogawally with your last round pick. Uh. So yeah,
Speaker 1: those two picks at the end of the draft, why not,
Speaker 1: they're all dart throws. Anyway, this is a guy that
Speaker 1: has a history, he knows the game. Uh, if he
Speaker 1: gets healthy in this New England offense, heck, he could
Speaker 1: be the number two if Josh Gordon decides to walk
Speaker 1: off the field and we three, we just don't know
Speaker 1: at this point, but is he worth a dart throw? Absolutely? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So they and I like that you mentioned dare ogonowly.
Speaker 1: I pronounced that perfectly nice. Alright, So these two guys
Speaker 1: are becoming, uh you know, new additions to the end
Speaker 1: of the draft board. Uh, you know, flyers last round
Speaker 1: picks that you could potentially get some you know, production
Speaker 1: out of. So Marius Thomas, for those of you who
Speaker 1: are young and don't know, this guy, used to be
Speaker 1: one of the best war season in the league, Like
Speaker 1: this guy on Denver, Like I remember at times he
Speaker 1: was like I'm choosing between Leo Jones into Marries Thomas
Speaker 1: in my draft at one point. Like he was that
Speaker 1: good in his prime, but he fell off pretty quickly
Speaker 1: and now he's just pretty much an afterthought. But yesterday
Speaker 1: he showed flashes of still having what it takes to
Speaker 1: maybe give you some production new England offense that's looking
Speaker 1: better than it did before, you know, before the preseason started. Um,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens with that. Other things that
Speaker 1: stood out to me that might have potential in fantasy
Speaker 1: leagues or Ogoomba Wally Uh eight rushes nine yards, not
Speaker 1: very good on the ground, but you get two catches
Speaker 1: for seventeen yards. Um. It looks like he might be
Speaker 1: the past catching back here in Tampa Bay. There's a
Speaker 1: chance that he who win that role, and Ronald Jones
Speaker 1: and Payton Barber will be splitting carries as the lead runner,
Speaker 1: you know, between the tackles runner. I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with that. Another dark throw might
Speaker 1: be worth the shot in PPR leagues past catching back
Speaker 1: right there. Uh, Jordan's scarlett the handcuffed too. Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 1: looks like right now not a lot of people talk
Speaker 1: about and burn deeper leagues. It's a guy you can
Speaker 1: draft in the late rounds. Eleven carries twenty two yards,
Speaker 1: not great in the ground, but did have three catches
Speaker 1: twenty yards in a touchdown. Paris Campbell for the Colts
Speaker 1: had three catches forty two yards. Haskins ten for seventeen
Speaker 1: hundred four yards in a touchdown. And a guy that
Speaker 1: I really like, but nobody drafts. And he's really probably
Speaker 1: not gonna get a lot of burn when it comes
Speaker 1: to the Baltimore Ravens running backs is kenn Of Dixon
Speaker 1: thirteen carries sixty six yards. I I love this guy
Speaker 1: when he was coming in because he was great past catcher,
Speaker 1: talented kid. Just go. He's just been getting hurt every
Speaker 1: single season that he's played and at this point you
Speaker 1: can't rely on him. So uh, you know, he's an afterthought.
Speaker 1: But somebody maybe to keep on the watch list. Will
Speaker 1: see what happens in Baltimore. But right now it's mark
Speaker 1: Ingram and Justice Hill looking to lead that running back crew.
Speaker 1: Any last thoughts about preseason before we had to break guys, George,
Speaker 1: it's over, Thank god, that's Jim. Hey, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: one thing. Look, I'll be honest, Daniel Jones looks so
Speaker 1: much better to me than I expected. Um, he just does.
Speaker 1: He throws with such nice accuracy, He throws with touch.
Speaker 1: He you know, is not hesitant when he gets him
Speaker 1: once he lets the ball go, he lets it go.
Speaker 1: He is surprising the heck out of me. I am
Speaker 1: I have been very pretesment what I've seen from this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been doing good. I still think it's a bad
Speaker 1: pick though. You talk about the draft, but if you
Speaker 1: come right back starting quarterback for the next ten years.
Speaker 1: It won't see it big then. Full time fantasy boys
Speaker 1: never really there on my radar. It's not that I
Speaker 1: don't like him. I do like Tyland Boyd, and I
Speaker 1: really like him for the first four or five weeks.
Speaker 1: I think in round five where you would take him,
Speaker 1: I've been taking a running back. Okay, I think even
Speaker 1: the receivers too. Again, it depends who's on the board.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm trying to think I have I might
Speaker 1: avoid him one league. I definitely don't have much. I
Speaker 1: just feel like there's other players in that range that
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Speaker 1: Let's get into the the Chargers, Los Angeles Chargers, who
Speaker 1: uh that that team has a ton of fantasy weapons here, um,
Speaker 1: and this is why they they don't really want or
Speaker 1: need to orfer Melvin Gordon a deal. I think that
Speaker 1: they'll be just fine offensively without him. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people feel that way. So let's break it down.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the the running backs, where you have
Speaker 1: the Melvin Gordon situation. There was a report that said
Speaker 1: that Melvin you know, might be there for week one
Speaker 1: to hold that one week one, But I don't I
Speaker 1: don't believe that. That was not a report that was
Speaker 1: exactly yeah, and it was just part of something else.
Speaker 1: And his opinion was he thought he would be in
Speaker 1: for week one. Now I don't like that. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: of course it got all blown up. Everybody's reporting that
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon is gonna be in for week one. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. I don't believe it. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's clickbait. There's a lot of clickbait out there.
Speaker 1: You know the days exactly everything is fake. No, no,
Speaker 1: it's not true. Not everything is fake, but a lot
Speaker 1: of things are. Most everything is except for us. We're real.
Speaker 1: Where all give it to you real? Even Chris that's true. Yeah, no, true,
Speaker 1: that's true. Everybody I tell you I like I draft.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now I have Josh Allen almost
Speaker 1: every team I've drafted so far. We'll see how it
Speaker 1: works at backup Q. He's real, he's I may lose
Speaker 1: every league. Actually, you know what I'm doing great and
Speaker 1: fantasy baseball this year. I'll tell you that I'm in
Speaker 1: the playoffs four to six leagues and kill in it.
Speaker 1: But it's football season, so it's hard to manage both.
Speaker 1: People don't realize that that right now is the baseball playoffs,
Speaker 1: and that's really more important than what's going on in
Speaker 1: football right now. But we're talking about the Los Angeles
Speaker 1: charges here, all right, Melvin Gordon, Uh, we know the
Speaker 1: situation here at this point, it looks like he's falling
Speaker 1: further and further. Uh fifth round right now, I'd say
Speaker 1: it is where he's he's going in that range. But
Speaker 1: there's a lot of you know, it depends on the draft.
Speaker 1: Like in a homely draft, he might go in the
Speaker 1: third round or the seventh round. I've seen him go.
Speaker 1: He's going in. His range of outcomes is freaking us over.
Speaker 1: I'll give you something. Let's see Melvin Gordon trying to
Speaker 1: find it right now. He's gone everywhere from thirty ninth
Speaker 1: to sixty second. So you're talking to beginning of the
Speaker 1: fourth round to the sixth round in a lot in
Speaker 1: the most current full time fantasy uh, you know, overall rankings.
Speaker 1: So his range of outcomes and if you start adding
Speaker 1: in you know, local leagues or you know leagues among
Speaker 1: people that just do it for fun like we used
Speaker 1: to um, then you're you're looking at the range of
Speaker 1: outcomes is even gonna be wider because there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of people that don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of other people see the headlines.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be a camp and bail on him.
Speaker 1: So the range is gonna be huge. Yeah, absolutely, because
Speaker 1: you know, obviously we don't know. I still think Zeke
Speaker 1: has a better chance than Melvin Gordon of playing uh
Speaker 1: week one. I just I just don't see Melvin going
Speaker 1: playing at all the season. I don't think the charges
Speaker 1: are gonna do anything. I don't think they're gonna give
Speaker 1: him what he wants. It's just not gonna happen. Uh,
Speaker 1: So he can't, he can't stay out the whole season.
Speaker 1: I've tried to read everything I could on this so far,
Speaker 1: and from all indications I can find, and remember, we
Speaker 1: thought to this about Bell as you two. But from
Speaker 1: every indication I could find, and the people that wrote this,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking to ESPN, you know, all the
Speaker 1: big sites are saying he has to be in by
Speaker 1: week ten to get as as an accrued season so
Speaker 1: he can become a free agent at the end of
Speaker 1: the year. Well, okay, so he has to he has
Speaker 1: to come in at some point. But what happened with
Speaker 1: Bell last year, didn't he also have to do the
Speaker 1: same thing. No, he wasn't under contract and he'd already
Speaker 1: had enough accrude time, so it you know, it's a
Speaker 1: different situation. Alright, good, thank you for clarifying that. So
Speaker 1: he has to all right, well, I could see him
Speaker 1: missing a good portion of the season at least, That's
Speaker 1: where I'm with you. Yeah, so you have if you
Speaker 1: want to. I would say this if similar to like
Speaker 1: we were talking about Zeke last week. We said, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're in one league and it's a big money
Speaker 1: league and that's the only league you're in, don't take
Speaker 1: the chance, play it safe, go a different route. I
Speaker 1: would say the same thing here with Melvin Gordon, of course,
Speaker 1: but if you're in ten leagues and you want to
Speaker 1: draft him in one maybe two, I would say that
Speaker 1: one maybe two out of the ten. Uh. And I
Speaker 1: mean because you know what, why you know what. I
Speaker 1: understand what you're trying to say, But my question is
Speaker 1: why why take the risk at this point when you
Speaker 1: know there's just we just every negative news. I'm with you, Zeke,
Speaker 1: I do If Zeke is not in week one, I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be in week two because if he's
Speaker 1: not there week one, the Giants took Gona, spank Dallas
Speaker 1: and Jerry Jones is gonna freak out, So so I
Speaker 1: expect him back by week too. Gordon, we can absolutely
Speaker 1: see a retract, you know, a long extended time off
Speaker 1: here for him, and Nan scares me. And at that point,
Speaker 1: you know, it's the same thing as looking at Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt coming back in week ten, right, you don't you
Speaker 1: tell everybody not to draft him. Seventh and eighth round
Speaker 1: is way too early. Well, at this point, I'm looking
Speaker 1: the same thing for Gordon. Okay, So if you're looking
Speaker 1: at it like that, then yeah, because Kareem Hunt right
Speaker 1: now is getting drafted in the double digit rounds, so
Speaker 1: you know you're you're getting him at the end because
Speaker 1: you know, for effect, he's not coming back to like
Speaker 1: week ten, whereas Melvin Gordon you don't know for sure,
Speaker 1: but everything's pointing in that direction. And I get it
Speaker 1: only reason why I say one out of ten. So
Speaker 1: let's say you play ten leagues. Maybe you're cheapest league,
Speaker 1: you're ten dollar league. You want to take a chance
Speaker 1: on Melvin Gordon in the fifth round or something like that.
Speaker 1: He's sticking out to you. You know, I take one
Speaker 1: chance maybe in a in a cheap league like that,
Speaker 1: but otherwise it's hard to touch him. Now. You do
Speaker 1: have these running backs that are there right now, and
Speaker 1: that's Austin Ekeler and Justin Jackson. Austin Ekeler being the
Speaker 1: one that everybody would rather have right now. He's going
Speaker 1: higher in drafts. He's going in the six, fifth, six,
Speaker 1: seventh round range, sixth round range. Um. He's a great
Speaker 1: pass catcher, as you could tell from last season. Had
Speaker 1: fifty three targets, thirty nine catches, four hundred and four yards,
Speaker 1: three touchdowns through the air, three touchdowns on the ground.
Speaker 1: He also did well on the ground five point two
Speaker 1: yards to carry five hundred and fifty four yards on
Speaker 1: a hundred six carries. This guy could get it done.
Speaker 1: He's talented. Let me jump in here. There's a few stats. Again,
Speaker 1: this is from Throw Football Focus. Not for me. I
Speaker 1: am not this smart um Austin Ekeler. Last year, he
Speaker 1: ranked six out of six one running backs in PF
Speaker 1: grade with an eighty three point sixth grade very good grade,
Speaker 1: six out of sixty one. He was seventh out of
Speaker 1: fifty six running backs in elusive rating. He was six
Speaker 1: out of fifty six running backs in yards per carry average,
Speaker 1: seventh out of thirty one running backs in yards per
Speaker 1: target average, and all of those numbers were better than
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon's. Just say, yep, they have it. That's the
Speaker 1: thing he's like, he's great pass catching ability. I think
Speaker 1: you know he's that elusive Ward Nett. You know he
Speaker 1: wasn't like a Duke Johnson thing. I thought that Justin
Speaker 1: Jackson was going to be the guy who was gonna
Speaker 1: get all the early down work and the goal line work.
Speaker 1: Now I still think he gets a decent amount of
Speaker 1: coal line work, But so far, Austin Ekeler, when given
Speaker 1: the chance, has looked so much better as a running
Speaker 1: back than Justin Jackson has. So I'm I'm at the
Speaker 1: point where I'm buying all in on Ekeler, and I'm
Speaker 1: leaving Justin Jackson down quite a bit in my rankings
Speaker 1: because of it. Uh, he may get some of those touchdowns,
Speaker 1: but Eckler has just looked so much more explosive than
Speaker 1: Jackson has. Right, Yeah, I'm I'm with you all the way,
Speaker 1: and I was with and the same thing you said
Speaker 1: about um, Justin Jackson looked like he was gonna be
Speaker 1: the early down guy and Ekeler be more of the
Speaker 1: past catching and you know he'll also get carries. He
Speaker 1: had a hundred and six less year. He did very
Speaker 1: well with them. He did better than Justin Jackson with them.
Speaker 1: Like I said, five point two yards per carry um.
Speaker 1: But it looks like this he's just a better back overall.
Speaker 1: I know he's he's five ten, two hundred pounds. Now,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he like he can't take a full workload. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know DeVonta Freeman does that and he's only two
Speaker 1: under five pounds. He's a little heavier. But Ekeler has
Speaker 1: just more dynamic I feel like abilities than Justin and Jackson.
Speaker 1: Justin Jackson right now, like he's got the pass catching ability,
Speaker 1: he's elusive. Uh. You know, he's shifted, he's agile, He's
Speaker 1: got a lot of things you covered in uh in
Speaker 1: a running back. So I think this guy right now
Speaker 1: is kind of a Steel George. Where he's going uh
Speaker 1: in that sixth round range. Uh? And like I said,
Speaker 1: the last draft, I didn't in a home league type
Speaker 1: of draft. He went in the mid to late seventh rounds.
Speaker 1: I think that's a steel right there. That's a great value. Well,
Speaker 1: mid to late seventh rounds certainly. Yeah, sixth value steel
Speaker 1: their sex is still a good value. I mean it's
Speaker 1: starting running back for a team that we expect to
Speaker 1: be very good. Assume they don't all end up on
Speaker 1: I L. So I have no problem with Austin club.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a good, solid running back.
Speaker 1: We know what the charges are doing, but they don't
Speaker 1: believe in paying a running back they have. They have
Speaker 1: low balled Gordon. They did all from a deal one year,
Speaker 1: ten million. That's a low bowl offer. Uh, Gordon knows it.
Speaker 1: It's pretty much told him all They all he needed
Speaker 1: to know about how the charges feel about him. They
Speaker 1: feel he can be replaced, and I'm not really necessary
Speaker 1: blaming the charge. They have other contracts they have to
Speaker 1: worry about. Philip Rivers needs to be resigned. He's gonna
Speaker 1: make thirty million a year next year or whatever it
Speaker 1: might be. They have defensive place who need to be resigned.
Speaker 1: They have good backups. This is not the same situation
Speaker 1: as Dallas where zeke. There really is Apollo who knows
Speaker 1: charges have good backups, so that this is where they're
Speaker 1: going with him here. Like Jimm said earlier, I think
Speaker 1: Gordon does come back, but I think it's week don
Speaker 1: you know. I don't think it's coming back anytime soon.
Speaker 1: So the only way I want Gordon is if I
Speaker 1: if I'm want return later in drift, I get good
Speaker 1: at extra back to back, I would think about doing
Speaker 1: that round six seven, round seven eight if I can
Speaker 1: last that long. That's interesting. Right on the turn you
Speaker 1: take them back to back, you lock up. You know
Speaker 1: Chargers running backs basically beside Justin Jackson, which you can
Speaker 1: get at the end of the draft. Really in double
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Fancy football. Frenzy were talking Los Angeles Chargers
Speaker 1: UM and we talked about the running backs Austin Ekeler,
Speaker 1: Like we said, we like the value their sixth round
Speaker 1: if you can get him there, uh any later, any
Speaker 1: later's great value, I think, and uh George mentioned a
Speaker 1: good point. I think if Melvin Gordon falls that far
Speaker 1: and you could do it back to back Melvin Gordon
Speaker 1: aust Ecle thing. The problem is, I just feel like
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon might end up being being a wasted pick.
Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens. So much draft capital and
Speaker 1: invested that early for those two picks, and you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, Neckler will have a little of his own value,
Speaker 1: but if Gordon is back, that value takes a massive hit.
Speaker 1: I mean, he could still end up is a running
Speaker 1: back too, So it's not terrible, but I mean you
Speaker 1: need both of them to hit for that strategy to
Speaker 1: work with that much draft capital and invested. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: definitely need that to hit. And like I said, I
Speaker 1: would do that in something like one or two like
Speaker 1: something with the Gordon thing. I would do that and
Speaker 1: maybe one or two, uh dress if I can. You
Speaker 1: gotta get both at the same time. I would be
Speaker 1: more interested in trying to Gordon Jackson thing. They're just
Speaker 1: because I don't have to spend that high on Eckler
Speaker 1: with Jackson, you know, I mean, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: a tough situation. Back to back with Gordon and Eckler.
Speaker 1: I don't like that at all there's three running backs there,
Speaker 1: and one is the is the guy, and he's not there,
Speaker 1: he's holding out. And then you've got two other ones
Speaker 1: that could be very useful. But Eckler looks like the
Speaker 1: most useful and that's why he's going higher. And it's
Speaker 1: a messy situation, but I honestly would just say take Eckler.
Speaker 1: I would take Eckler. I want Eckler the most right now. Um,
Speaker 1: I think it's the best value. Anyway, Let's go to
Speaker 1: the Let's go to the war receivers here in l A.
Speaker 1: And I absolutely love one of them. I mean, I
Speaker 1: like Keenan Allen. Allen is a very very good wide receiver. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, he's had his injury injuries in the past,
Speaker 1: he's had a history with that, but he's been, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, pretty solid with that past couple of years,
Speaker 1: right Jim. Yeah. The one thing with Alan note and
Speaker 1: it's kind of weird. I really want to go back
Speaker 1: and check this, but I was looking through some stuff
Speaker 1: yesterday and I made a note at some point in
Speaker 1: the past where I wanted to look at the numbers
Speaker 1: closer and just haven't done it yet. Time has been
Speaker 1: like the killer. These days. But uh, I made a
Speaker 1: note at one point about how he starts off kind
Speaker 1: of slow in the beginning of the season and then
Speaker 1: really ramps it up at the end of the season. Again,
Speaker 1: I need to go back and check the numbers fully,
Speaker 1: but at some point I had noted that, So I
Speaker 1: really want to look at that. I'll have an answer
Speaker 1: for you next week, but I gotta go look go
Speaker 1: back and look at the numbers. But I remember seeing,
Speaker 1: you know, that he did seem to get off to
Speaker 1: a slow start the last couple of years, and I
Speaker 1: want to go back pass that and see if that
Speaker 1: was a trend from even before that, right, right, because
Speaker 1: if that is a trend that needs a slow starter.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, then that might could be. I
Speaker 1: mean we do this a lot in base yeah by
Speaker 1: low candidate, uh you know, at some point in the season,
Speaker 1: maybe week five or something like that. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but you know we do this a lot in baseball.
Speaker 1: George could have tested this where you know, you have
Speaker 1: your slow starters. Mark two. Sharer was notorious for that.
Speaker 1: Um and you know you draft or you wouldn't draft
Speaker 1: him and try to trade for him mid season. Those
Speaker 1: type of guys that start slow and they pick it
Speaker 1: up in the second half when it gets warmer. Uh.
Speaker 1: I guess a similar thing here was Keenan Allen. I
Speaker 1: will tell you this the last two years. Last year
Speaker 1: at nine hundred thirty six targets ninety seven catches, eleven
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety six yards almost basically twelve hundred yards
Speaker 1: and six touchdowns. Year before, hundred fifty nine targets, a
Speaker 1: hundred two catches, thirteen ninety three yards and six touchdowns
Speaker 1: almost fourteen hundred yards. There it was sixteen fifteen where
Speaker 1: he had a you know, he was dealing with a
Speaker 1: lot of injuries. He only played eight games, only one
Speaker 1: I remember that in uh, and he was done. He
Speaker 1: got he got hurt pretty bad. I remember on a
Speaker 1: play I think it was Week one. So um, but
Speaker 1: this guy, you know, he's a steady in PPR, he's steady.
Speaker 1: He gets a ton of catches nineties seven and a
Speaker 1: hundred and to the past two years. That's elite. Um.
Speaker 1: The yardage is pretty much elite. I guess the only
Speaker 1: thing you would say is the touchdowns. He's never cracked
Speaker 1: double digit touchdowns. But touchdowns, yeah right. He's not a
Speaker 1: Renzo guy though, I wouldn't put that against him. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of guys I like that. Julio Jones. Look, look,
Speaker 1: I'm not putting Julio down, but for whatever reason, you
Speaker 1: know it, getting touchdowns has always been slim for him.
Speaker 1: He's not a guy who throughout his history has caught
Speaker 1: ten eleven touchdowns every year. You're talking about Julio, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think. Now I gotta tell you though, because obviously
Speaker 1: you know we all watched the games. I I've had
Speaker 1: a Julio every single season he's been in the league,
Speaker 1: of course, but like, it's just it doesn't make sense
Speaker 1: that he's not a touchdown guy because he's huge. It's
Speaker 1: just they don't target him there in some seasons they didn't.
Speaker 1: The one season where they had Dirk Cutter, which who
Speaker 1: he is now back on the team, he had ten touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He had his only double digit touchdown season. He should
Speaker 1: be used. That's the thing. These bigger guys should. They
Speaker 1: should be Enzo targets. The bigger guys are usually logically
Speaker 1: the end zone or red zone targets, and Keenan Allen
Speaker 1: is six to two eleven, He's a big guy. He
Speaker 1: he could get targeted the end so I could see
Speaker 1: him having a ten touchdown season. Why not touchdowns? Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's just a flukey thing. But he did have six
Speaker 1: back to back season, so you gotta assume more than
Speaker 1: likely he's not gonna crack ten. But if he does,
Speaker 1: you're talking about top five wire receivers here. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's the numbers in terms of receptions and yards
Speaker 1: that he has. So he's always capability. He always has
Speaker 1: that capability. The only thing you really gotta worry about
Speaker 1: what him is I guess you know, because he has
Speaker 1: that injury history and we've seen he's dealing with injury
Speaker 1: in preseason. You worry about that a little bit. But
Speaker 1: he's still a pretty safe pick. The Chargers offense is
Speaker 1: very good. He's the number one target in that offense.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about Keenan Allen. You want to take him
Speaker 1: in this middle second round, late second round by all means, uh,
Speaker 1: do it because he's that type of receiver. He's that
Speaker 1: good um and the offense is that good. My big
Speaker 1: Mike Williams is the guy I kind of want more. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's going later, of course, he's going high and high.
Speaker 1: The hype is real with all these guys, all these
Speaker 1: second year wid receiver, well not second year Mike Williams
Speaker 1: is the third year wid receiver. Actually, he's going too
Speaker 1: high for you, Jim. He's too high. He's absolutely too high.
Speaker 1: Look again, round we're talking late fourth round, early fifth round.
Speaker 1: If you're lucky, I can't do it. Um. Look, I
Speaker 1: love the ten touchdowns, but those numbers were so inflated
Speaker 1: last year that you have to wonder if he can
Speaker 1: do it again. Um, you know, his number of receptions
Speaker 1: to number of touchdowns just don't meet. Well, there's too
Speaker 1: big a discrepancy there. Thirty three of his fantasy points
Speaker 1: came off touchdowns. Um, you know, and that to me,
Speaker 1: that's just a too big a percentage. And I think
Speaker 1: there's definitely room for regression there, especially now that Henry
Speaker 1: Hunter and damn I always getting backward tight end is there,
Speaker 1: Henry is there in his playing with him. Now, this
Speaker 1: is a guy who definitely always had a good report
Speaker 1: with Rivers, was always a good red zone threat with Rivers.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna take some of that off of
Speaker 1: Mike Williams. Plate the way Mike Williams has to get better.
Speaker 1: He has to get more receptions and I'm just not
Speaker 1: sure he's gonna see a ton more receptions. See that. Now,
Speaker 1: I get the thing what you're saying right now, But
Speaker 1: let's make this clear to everybody right now. Um, the
Speaker 1: targets last year, that's the thing here. Okay, he had four,
Speaker 1: he had sixty six targets. That's not uh, he was
Speaker 1: a wire receiver three last year barely. I mean it
Speaker 1: was Tyrrell Williams and it was Keenan Allen Hunter. Henry
Speaker 1: obviously missed the whole season. Yes, Hunter Henry's back, but
Speaker 1: Tyrell Williams is gone. So really, to me, there's three
Speaker 1: major targets in this offense. It's Keenan Allen Hunter Henry
Speaker 1: and Mike Williams. Austin Ekeler and whoever else comes out
Speaker 1: of the backfield will get their little share of targets
Speaker 1: as well, but those are gonna be the big three guys.
Speaker 1: And I love these offenses that are good offenses that
Speaker 1: have a trio of targets. I think big Mike Williams
Speaker 1: because of the price that you're getting him at two,
Speaker 1: I'm taking him early fifth. We pull him up to
Speaker 1: the early fourth. I think the targets go up I
Speaker 1: know touch ten touch on is a lot for a
Speaker 1: guy only had sixty six targets and didn't play a
Speaker 1: lot of snaps, But those targets should go up too
Speaker 1: close to a hundred maybe more this year. Okay, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be starting. He's a starter now. He wasn't a
Speaker 1: really starter last year. You know he's moving up to
Speaker 1: the Only problem I have with that is that you
Speaker 1: know which Rivers do we see um Rivers through the
Speaker 1: least amount of passes last year that he's thrown since,
Speaker 1: like you, I don't know two thousand nine. I think
Speaker 1: I only attempted five and eight passes last year because
Speaker 1: the defense is so good, because they got a good
Speaker 1: running game. Now you know they lost Darwin James, so
Speaker 1: maybe that takes a hit on their defense. So maybe
Speaker 1: the game script turns a little bit more in the
Speaker 1: favor of Philip Rivers. Don't forget Melvin Gordon. Without Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon are probably gonna throw the ball a lot more too. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, it really does depend on these
Speaker 1: guys behind him and whether or not they are good
Speaker 1: enough to supplant Melvin Gordon in the role. And that's
Speaker 1: what it really comes down to you're playing Russian Roulette there.
Speaker 1: But man, look, you guys know I love Mike Williams.
Speaker 1: I was all over him last year. I love what
Speaker 1: he brought to the table and I still do. I
Speaker 1: just think his a DP is too high for my
Speaker 1: liking right now. I only have him in a couple
Speaker 1: of leagues because everybody's buying into him, and man, I
Speaker 1: want to see more receptions before I buy into him
Speaker 1: that high. I just do it is it is a
Speaker 1: high price tag. What do you think, George about big
Speaker 1: Mike Williams here and his price tag? I mean, I
Speaker 1: like Mike Tyrell is no longer there. Running game is
Speaker 1: not gonna be the same without Melvin Gordon, So theoretically
Speaker 1: there should be more balls going to him, not a
Speaker 1: lot more balls. Was Keenan Allen still banged up? Uh?
Speaker 1: Hard may to rely on him being healthy with sixteen
Speaker 1: games either, Uh, Mike Williams sort of the anti Keenan Allen.
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen's gonna get more volume. Mike Williams likely to
Speaker 1: be more of a red zone threat. That's once again
Speaker 1: the bigger body theory there. That's what the Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: likes to go to a lot of teams have that.
Speaker 1: So I like Mike Williams within reason. I mean, to me,
Speaker 1: he's on that borderline wide receiver to wide receiver three
Speaker 1: between that twenty two and uh previous twenty eight range,
Speaker 1: with a lot of other white receivers there a lot
Speaker 1: of guys who are in my mind, are just the
Speaker 1: same as him. But I'm a little higher on him
Speaker 1: than I would have been had the offered state the same.
Speaker 1: You know, if Melvin Gordon was day where they might
Speaker 1: run the balls same as as last year, even more,
Speaker 1: or if Tyrelle Williams was there once, you gonna get
Speaker 1: three receivers there rather than two now. So I like
Speaker 1: Mike Williams. Yeah, I mean for me, by the way
Speaker 1: to um Jim, you're right. Two thousand nine was the
Speaker 1: last time Philip Rivers had less than five hundred and
Speaker 1: eight attempts. Um that would that year he had four
Speaker 1: eighties six he lingers around in his career. Philip burrs
Speaker 1: around five hundred and seventy attempts. It looks like anywhere
Speaker 1: from five fifty to five seventy one year he had
Speaker 1: six sixty one. But you don't want to be doing
Speaker 1: that that means you're probably losing a lot of games
Speaker 1: or you're down in a lot of games and you
Speaker 1: just gotta throw. But at the same time, five o
Speaker 1: eight seems fantasy. Yeah, we like that fantasy, but that's
Speaker 1: what I mean. Five oh eight seems low for him.
Speaker 1: So I think a regression to the mean this year,
Speaker 1: especially for Movin Gordon is not around. You're talking maybe
Speaker 1: five uh, And I think that's an assumptions education. But
Speaker 1: because look, it really does come down to how big
Speaker 1: of a hit the defense stakes without Darlin James, it
Speaker 1: really does. I mean, the guy is an outstanding player
Speaker 1: for them, one of the leaders on that defense by far.
Speaker 1: Losing him could hurt. If it hurts a lot, then
Speaker 1: you're right. Then Philip Rivers is throwing the ball more.
Speaker 1: I get that. But if they can make up for
Speaker 1: that with adjustments, and they have a great defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: if anybody can do it, he can do it. So
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm not thinking they take as huge
Speaker 1: a hit as everybody else seems to think. And if
Speaker 1: that's the case, then that defense stands up strong again.
Speaker 1: Then Rivers isn't gonna have to I think that defense
Speaker 1: is gonna be good. I think it's gonna be good.
Speaker 1: It's just tough for me. You know, I love Mike Williams.
Speaker 1: You know I hate staying away from players I love,
Speaker 1: but I can't. The thing is, I can't do it.
Speaker 1: I understand. The thing is, it's it's very hard to
Speaker 1: get him. In general. I've already done four or five
Speaker 1: league drafts, managed drafts, and I haven't got Mike Williams yet.
Speaker 1: Why because people are pulling him up the board. There's
Speaker 1: no chance to grab him sometimes. Uh So I do
Speaker 1: want him, and I will pull him up the board
Speaker 1: if I have to, because I do love him that much.
Speaker 1: I think maybe he regresses very little in touchdowns eight
Speaker 1: or nine, but I think the targets go up, the
Speaker 1: receptions go up closer to six, and I think the
Speaker 1: yardage come close to a thousand. I'm I'm all, I'm
Speaker 1: all in on the guy. I'm all on the guy.
Speaker 1: Update in the chat, Henry Mudo doing a draft right now.
Speaker 1: Mike Williams went at six and eleven, a great price.
Speaker 1: I can't take them as early as I've been seeing him,
Speaker 1: all right, And hunt to Henry, of course, one of
Speaker 1: the tier two guys that you want to grab on
Speaker 1: the charges as well in this offense. Great offense to have.
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Speaker 1: did a podcast with him last night. We did a draft.
Speaker 1: I was in his home league, and it seemed like
Speaker 1: all the kids in his league, we're drafting everybody else
Speaker 1: except these valuable pass catching running backs. So pp a
Speaker 1: league by the Bay one point people are. They were
Speaker 1: all falling down the draft board. There was a ton
Speaker 1: of running back value in that draft. I I don't
Speaker 1: think a lot of people realize the concept that, like
Speaker 1: the pass catching backs are very valuable, just because they're
Speaker 1: the backup doesn't mean that the lead runner is always
Speaker 1: the better running back. Duke Johnson went in the seventh
Speaker 1: round of this draft. End of the seventh round. That's
Speaker 1: a steel right now. I mean the guys the starting
Speaker 1: running back right now, and he's a great pass catcher.
Speaker 1: Um you had obviously Ter Cohen, guys like James White
Speaker 1: and uh Austin Ekeler. Seventh round, eighth round. This is
Speaker 1: this is where they were going in this draft where
Speaker 1: you're seeing a lot of the expert or analyst drafts,
Speaker 1: they go a little higher than that fifth sixth. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think a lot of people realize
Speaker 1: the concept that pass catching backs, third down backs, or
Speaker 1: sometimes they just split carries. Okay, you don't know exactly
Speaker 1: what the touches are gonna be the volume. Obviously volume
Speaker 1: is king. But you know, just because the guy's a
Speaker 1: lead runner doesn't mean he's going to be an RB
Speaker 1: two or uh, he's gonna be the better running back
Speaker 1: on the team that he's splitting carries with. It just
Speaker 1: means that he's the starting running back. He's the one
Speaker 1: that's gonna get the carries earlier on the other guy
Speaker 1: could have just as many touches in the game. So
Speaker 1: I want people to realize that and not just say, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm taking this guy because he's the starting running back.
Speaker 1: You know, do your research and know exactly what's going
Speaker 1: on uh with you know, running back situations, because sometimes
Speaker 1: it could get foggy, uh and that's how value falls
Speaker 1: down the board. A lot of running backs went super
Speaker 1: late and it was unnecessary, uh, you know, because the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears again draft in the eighth round. The Bears
Speaker 1: defense just that's a big no no, no no, you know,
Speaker 1: uh well, yeah, like what you're saying. Dontrell Hilly yesterday
Speaker 1: six two catches, thirteen touchdown to Marius Thomas seven catches,
Speaker 1: eighty seven yards, two touchdowns yesterday. Are we buying this,
Speaker 1: George Kurtz? Are you buying ta Marius Thomas? Is he
Speaker 1: someone you might now take a look at in drafts?
Speaker 1: Am I buying ta Marius Thomas? Because he had a
Speaker 1: big game in Week four of the preseason against a
Speaker 1: bunch of nobody. Um, listen, you want to take him
Speaker 1: last round? You know, dart board throw mud against the wall.
Speaker 1: See if it sticks. I've gotten I never have a
Speaker 1: problem with that. I don't care that drafted Chris Venture
Speaker 1: in the last round. Give a shot. Maybe Chris can
Speaker 1: have a big year. You never know, light I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean the same Chris Venture that's now in Sports
Speaker 1: Illustrated today. Am I Yeah,