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Speaker 1: Man, Martin Wiss and for Rob Rob Actually, Martin, I

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Speaker 1: believe might be the downfall to the Lions since he

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Speaker 1: went to Detroit to watch his game versus Cowboys. I

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Speaker 1: had hope, Martin, until I realized Rob is gonna be there.

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Speaker 1: Now I just threw all hope out the window.

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Speaker 4: It depends who did he pick. Because if he picked

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Speaker 3: We're in great shape. You're in great shape. If that's

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Speaker 3: the case, that's a great point. Man.

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Speaker 1: tell you what we got. Sean Merriman gonna be joining us.

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Speaker 1: Former NFL All Pro, founder of Lights Out Extreme Fighting.

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Speaker 1: He's got a big tournament, as he always does.

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Speaker 3: We'll get into that.

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Speaker 1: Also some football headlines with him, and also Tim Brando

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Broadcast is going to join us next hour

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 3: We'll do shop talk. We got something lined up.

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Speaker 1: Brie has something lined up for you there, so looking

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Speaker 1: forward to it and a whole lot of NBA conversations

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Speaker 1: and also again Thursday Night Football on tap as well.

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Speaker 1: Let me introduce and bring in again you just heard

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Speaker 1: him co host Martin Weiss.

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Speaker 3: What's up, brother, doing well?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 5: How are you don Sean Merriman on.

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Speaker 4: The short list of biggest humans I've ever been in

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Speaker 3: And I've been in the same room with a lot

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Speaker 1: You might have been in the same room because you know,

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's just just and Sean Merriman doesn't have the

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Speaker 4: But what I'm saying big, I don't mean fat either.

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Speaker 3: No, that's one hundred percent. My man.

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Speaker 1: Sean has no net. It's just well, yeah, he's a

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Speaker 1: We have Bree who is and for Rob g give it.

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Speaker 3: Up for Bree.

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Speaker 1: She'll be producing the show throughout the day, helping us out.

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Speaker 1: And we have, of course you have Manzi Blas on

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Speaker 3: And we have missed Mary Mack on the ones and twos. Huh.

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Speaker 1: So we got everything lined up, folks. You gotta like

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Speaker 1: great show line up. Let's jump in here, Martin, Robin

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Speaker 1: and I got it. The news of course came now

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Speaker 1: like a day and a half ago. Whatever it is

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Speaker 3: But when I look at this, Martin, I look at

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Speaker 1: I talked a little bit about it yesterday with Rob

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Speaker 1: that presses on you, grinds on you. That we've heard

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Speaker 1: We've seen it, right, We've seen it, whether it was

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Speaker 3: So I looked at it as a split twenty year career.

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Speaker 1: First ten years could do no wrong, great commercial, he's

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Speaker 1: But you know what I say, if you're a record

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Speaker 1: gonna get some crazy stunts.

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Speaker 3: You know you've got to put out some fires.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody has that certain family member, you know,

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Speaker 3: But that's family.

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Speaker 1: And I say that to say the Clippers, he was

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Speaker 3: You know who he is, you know how he left,

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Speaker 1: The issues him and Blake, and I'm sure they passed

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Speaker 1: You know, he wants to win, he brings, he's a

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Speaker 1: Why is this a surprise? Why did you okay the

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Speaker 3: So I'm more shocked that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I do believe he might have been tough, might

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Speaker 1: have had expectations, but this has been him. Why are

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 3: It's inning ugly el for him?

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Speaker 1: This is all ruined and it's also putting a spotlight

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Speaker 1: on you all the Clippers, because now we're saying this

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Speaker 1: is fumble. The whole Kawhi Leonards experiment has been a fumble.

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Speaker 1: Sga is now a star that you traded with the Thunder.

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Speaker 1: He's a champion, an MVP, and they still got all

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Speaker 1: So now to me, you put the spotlight back on

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Speaker 3: I'll end with this Martin.

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Speaker 1: It just reminds us do it all Chris Paul's fought,

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Speaker 3: That is just absolutely unacceptable.

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Speaker 5: See I'm going at it actually from a different way.

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Speaker 4: I think this has a lot more to say about

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Speaker 4: I think it came down like this because if the

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Speaker 4: only been a quarter of the season. Now, I think

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Speaker 4: what all happened was you get into this situation.

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Speaker 5: You see Bradley Bill, he's out for the year.

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Speaker 4: You see the record, The team's out for the year essentially, right,

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Speaker 4: They're not competing for anything in a series in a

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Speaker 4: You're not signing these guys in this way if you

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Speaker 4: don't think you're gonna be able to compete. And again,

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Speaker 4: like you said, again, Clipper's gonna clip. I'm with you there.

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Speaker 4: This is just check throwing a good money after bad

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Speaker 4: right in terms of trying to re establish or reinvigorate

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Speaker 5: The reality of this is, though, this to me seems

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Speaker 4: Listen to the names that coach for the Clippers right now, Tylu,

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Speaker 4: You don't get your farewell tour. You don't get your

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Speaker 4: So they had equity built up in those organizations. Those

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Speaker 5: CP three had some equity built up in the Clippers.

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Speaker 4: But I think we all can say that this version

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Speaker 5: So I get that, but they've taken a step above that.

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Speaker 4: And to me, this would be like if Russell Westbrook

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Speaker 5: It's like, buddy, we've moved on from you.

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Speaker 4: We have no problem celebrating you, but we've moved on

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Speaker 1: The only thing is you said, going back to what

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Speaker 1: And so my whole thing is there's no shock that

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Speaker 3: I can't believe you did that. Well, that's nobody wants

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Speaker 4: He thinks he can contribute, and he's probably not wrong,

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Speaker 1: Marty in Kentucky. Marty, you're on with the odd couple

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Speaker 6: What's up, guys.

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Speaker 7: I'm really excited that you got John Marriham today. He's

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Speaker 6: Guys know that he played you, Coball.

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Speaker 7: Ben Sin. Yeah, that's pretty impressive. Somebody that just keeps

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Speaker 7: I just think at school he's on. But I'll get

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Speaker 7: to the subject. I think that Kelvin is dead on.

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Speaker 7: They're just adding another coach.

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Speaker 6: He's on.

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Speaker 7: He's got very little clay left and he's and he's

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Speaker 7: I still remember him, I mean right in James Harden's fate.

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Speaker 7: I just I don't like that situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, we appreciate the call, Marty. We'll definitely tell Sean. Uh,

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Speaker 3: Let's keep it grolling.

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Speaker 8: Right right over?

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Speaker 8: Guys? So I'm gonna come at this a different couple

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Speaker 8: Second of all, Chris Paul is not the best guard.

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Speaker 8: It's not won a championship. I can think of Jason Kidd,

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Speaker 8: Allen Iverson, Stockton, Kevin Johnson. I've watched so I've watched

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Speaker 8: a lot of Clipper games when they was Love City.

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Speaker 8: Blake Griffin is probably the best Clipper ever. Okay, I

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Speaker 8: know Chris Paul makes him look good, but if you

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Speaker 8: talk about just pure talent, so I'm gonna go, yes,

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Speaker 8: it's the Clippers just clipping the best coach they've ever had, well,

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Speaker 8: they've had in the last twenty years as Minnie Dell Negro,

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Speaker 8: and they let him go after a season and a half.

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Speaker 8: He did more things for that team to bring them

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Speaker 8: out of where they had been in the funk and

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Speaker 8: I never understood why they did it. And all they're

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Speaker 8: doing now is they're getting James Harden and Kawhi Leonard

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Speaker 8: and you know they've run in this old center. You know,

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Speaker 8: John Collins is a good kick cup. Chris Paul is

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Speaker 8: not as good as I mean, his stat's never there good,

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Speaker 8: but I've seen him on the floor and it looks

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Speaker 8: just like the call him. The last caller said he's

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Speaker 8: on everybody else's business when he is. I mean, his

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Speaker 8: turnover rate of a lot of games is terrible. His

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Speaker 8: three point shot was never I mean, he'd hit big shots.

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Speaker 8: He has that great mid range that turned around, fade away.

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Speaker 6: It's a corner.

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Speaker 8: But I don't you know, and I totally agree that

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Speaker 8: he probably tried to be that second or third coach

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Speaker 8: and they told him we're not going to We're not

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Speaker 8: going to do it and see later. And they can't.

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Speaker 8: They can't trade him right now. I mean they're really no.

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Speaker 1: They can't trade him till December fifteen. George, Hey, thank

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Speaker 1: you for the call. I'm gonna disagree with George there.

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Speaker 1: I still think the greatest Clipper. Now, maybe I'm missing

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Speaker 1: somebody in you know, the seventies or eighty, I can't

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Speaker 1: think of. But to me, it's Chris Paul, and it's

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Speaker 1: Blake Griffin was really good, but it's Chris Paul. He

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Speaker 1: absolutely turned that thing around.

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Speaker 4: Go Untie and I actually had this debate on Saturday,

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Speaker 4: and I said, I agreed with the caller. I said

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Speaker 4: that Blake Griffin was the better. It was the better

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Speaker 4: well known and like more loved Clipper.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that if you're saying more like likable.

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Speaker 3: But see, no, no, we're about to do that.

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Speaker 1: What we're not about to do is not act like

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul was not a darling of the league for

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Speaker 1: the first little but he was.

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Speaker 3: Chris Paul was Cliff Paul the commercials.

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Speaker 1: He was the MVP seven years, seven years, he finished

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Speaker 1: in the top whatever an MVP race.

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Speaker 4: Like, I'm not taking any of that away from him.

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Speaker 4: If you ask me, though, who is the most recognizable

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Speaker 4: when I think of the Clippers, who was the first

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Speaker 4: player I think of?

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Speaker 5: Is play Griffith.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's I don't think that's.

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Speaker 4: Fit quite honestly, it's Kawhi Leonard. Oh well then that's terrible,

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Speaker 4: but it's more it's more Kawhi because of the expectations

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Speaker 4: and absences.

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Speaker 3: So Kawhi did they sign him? Did they bring him in?

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Speaker 4: I do have to say this before we kicked the manse. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: to your point of Kawhi, did we sign him? The caller?

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Speaker 5: That've been a good point that I had forgotten about.

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Speaker 4: They played together in Houston, James Harden and Chris Paul,

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Speaker 4: and after they split in twenty twenty, I went and

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Speaker 4: looked it up the reporting at the time for friends

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Speaker 4: to show. Vinnie Goodwill said there was no re spacked

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Speaker 4: that all between Chris Paul and James Harden.

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Speaker 3: No, and then they were like, you know who we

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Speaker 3: should bring in?

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Speaker 5: Chris Paul Right.

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Speaker 4: According to ESPN's Typical Man, one of Paul's biggest beeflet

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Speaker 4: Harden this is back in twenty twenty was his lack

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Speaker 4: of interest in participating in the Rockets office and at

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Speaker 4: the ball and sometimes barely stepping over half court.

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Speaker 5: Basically, they argued over playing style.

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Speaker 4: So it may seem to me probably still a lot

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Speaker 4: of arguments over playing style. This is different is you're

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Speaker 4: playing style at this point in time, is sitting on

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Speaker 4: the bench.

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Speaker 5: Chris James went from fifty five, two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he I mean he's James still playing. He

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Speaker 1: played well for them over the last year and a half,

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Speaker 1: for sure. I just but but that was my whole part,

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Speaker 1: my whole point.

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Speaker 3: Martin was done. They like, didn't we see that coming?

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Speaker 3: All right? On the other side of trendy we got

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Speaker 3: sew Merriman.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to him a minute, right now, Mancy beloos

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Speaker 1: manzi uh say.

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Speaker 8: It again.

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Speaker 5: Time.

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Speaker 9: I don't think you did. I don't think you did.

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Speaker 3: But Mary Matt get that recorded day two of this.

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Speaker 10: I feel the exact same wayfl yesterday. Also, you are wrong.

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Speaker 10: The greatest Clipper is Blake Griffin because he put us

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Speaker 10: on the map. He made us cool, He made Chris

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Speaker 10: Paul come to LA and other free agents or whatnot.

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Speaker 10: He was the one who made the Clippers cool. He

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Speaker 10: started it. He is the greatest Clipper.

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Speaker 3: Look at this, we started this.

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Speaker 9: We did we did I think with skill fetched. You

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Speaker 9: know what I'm saying. It's not about skill, but you

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Speaker 9: you know what I mean, like what he did.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's crazy. I think Chris was just

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Speaker 3: the engine of that team.

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Speaker 10: Get you do not disagree with that Lob City does

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Speaker 10: not happen without Chris Paul and that was like some

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Speaker 10: of the best times.

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Speaker 9: But Blake Griffin is what did that him?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 9: And I know it was by luck because he was

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Speaker 9: the number one pick because we sucked. But yeah, like

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Speaker 9: he is the one that made us cool when we weren't,

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Speaker 9: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 10: So that's why I think he's the greatest Clipper, but

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Speaker 10: obviously not by skill.

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Speaker 9: You could argue it's GOI Leonard.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Couple with

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Speaker 2: Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern

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Speaker 2: four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: That's the Odd Couple, Kevin Washington, Martin Wis and for

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Speaker 1: Rob on the TV theme So on Thursday, joined now

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Speaker 1: by Sean Merriman, former NFL All Pro founder of Lights

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Speaker 1: Out Extreme Fighting, who They've gotten a.

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Speaker 3: Vi going on.

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Speaker 1: Is gonna be happening in Long Beach and doors are

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Speaker 1: gonna open at five point thirty. It is the twenty

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Speaker 1: six is this Saturday, This Saturday. Make sure you check

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Speaker 1: that out. We'll have him talk a little bit more

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Speaker 1: about it towards the end of the Shawn, what's up brother?

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Speaker 3: Always good chatting it up?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 3: How you doing yo?

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Speaker 6: What's up? One man?

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Speaker 3: How you doing doing great? Hey? What was his name? Martin?

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Speaker 3: The guy do you remember all right?

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Speaker 4: Alvin Armstead or something? Armstead apparently the roommate or teammate

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Speaker 4: of yours.

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Speaker 1: We had a caller that was excited to talk to you, said,

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Speaker 1: he used to you play with a buddy he is

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Speaker 1: at a Juco?

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Speaker 6: Ed you call his buddy at a Juco?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was. He was just hyped up about you.

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Speaker 1: I said, I was gonna how to bring it up

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Speaker 1: if if I remember, but I might have messed it

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Speaker 1: up as Armstead.

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Speaker 3: But uh, let's go here, man, let's talk to NFL.

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Speaker 1: We got Thursday night, Martin and I dive a little

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Speaker 1: deeper into this in a little bit, and you got

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys who all of a sudden, the research is

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Speaker 1: offensively right.

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Speaker 3: They they're they're looking great.

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Speaker 1: Dak's an MVP candidate, and even defensively they've been a

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Speaker 1: bit better. You have the Lions who seven and five,

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Speaker 1: they haven't looked great the last handful of weeks. Uh,

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Speaker 1: where do you come out on this? Which kind of

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Speaker 1: where the teams are trending. Who do you look at

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Speaker 1: tonight and say this is a must when they absolutely

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Speaker 1: have to win.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'll say this, man, this is a time we

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Speaker 6: call December football, right because those first several weeks and

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Speaker 6: me and my opinion doesn't matter. I mean just that's

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Speaker 6: just really teams getting on the same page, getting the

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Speaker 6: flow of things. But we all gonna see what they

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Speaker 6: shake out in December. Then that's that's when you want

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Speaker 6: to be trending up. Also, remember there was a lot

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Speaker 6: of Cowboys fans out there that was complaining why we

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Speaker 6: didn't go get the big name code or somebody else.

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Speaker 6: My man, Brian Schottenheimer, who was on the coaching staff

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Speaker 6: back went up with the Sandygo charges. I knew they

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Speaker 6: made the right decision and that was a Lem Rogers,

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Speaker 6: That was a Dak Prescott decision. But I keep him there.

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Speaker 6: Why why have a new offensive head coach coming in

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Speaker 6: and doing that? So I'm not surprised that Dak having

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Speaker 6: a season. And also Cowboys fans winding again about Jerry

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Speaker 6: Jones right letting go Michaeh. They started bringing in a

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Speaker 6: couple more pieces of the puzzle, and and look what's happening.

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Speaker 6: So in this another side of Michael Michael. Michael is

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Speaker 6: a great player, a long term I said that Jerry

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Speaker 6: could win this, win that trade, and this looked like

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Speaker 6: it's working out for him.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Talking on the other side of this game, the Lions

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Speaker 4: and the Cowboys. Uh, the Lions obviously lost both their coordinators.

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Speaker 4: They also lost center Frank Ragnow, like, offensively, they're still

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Speaker 4: scoring a ton of points, but like Kelvin just said,

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Speaker 4: it feels different in Detroit. How how much of an

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Speaker 4: impact do you think losing coordinators on that has on

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Speaker 4: a team year the year, Because the Lions, in terms

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Speaker 4: of the players on the field, it's a lot of

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Speaker 4: the same guys, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, And I don't like make an excuse because everybody's

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Speaker 6: injured or beat up at this point during the time.

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Speaker 6: During the year in the NFL, they got a lot

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Speaker 6: of injured players, and then they got a lot of

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Speaker 6: guys that's banged up. He's the wide receiver, you know,

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Speaker 6: he he's playing the night right, Yeah he's playing. He's active,

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Speaker 6: but we all know he's nowhere close to one hundred percent.

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Speaker 6: And so now you've got to start player that is

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Speaker 6: walking to the game banged up, and you're asking him

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Speaker 6: to go out there and win football games, and there's

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Speaker 6: going a lot of points. And that's really mainly because

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Speaker 6: Dan Campbell took over the office to play calling. But

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Speaker 6: I think that he should have been doing office to

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Speaker 6: play call him before the year started because his style

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Speaker 6: of playing, his style of coaching, they're really good at,

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Speaker 6: and that's taking shots, running the football well, going downfield

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Speaker 6: when necessary. But I don't know, man, I just don't

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Speaker 6: think they got enough horses to finish the season strong.

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Speaker 6: And I doubt tonight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, obviously everybody listens knows that. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: a Lions fan, but you're right. I mean, they're going

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Speaker 1: through it right now. Guys are nicked up, Guys are

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Speaker 1: banged up. They lose Laporta, so they're losing some steam

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Speaker 1: as they get closer towards the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to go to a team

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Speaker 1: right now that's kind of doing the opposite and they're

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Speaker 1: turning things around a little bit, and that's the Texans,

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. They find themselves in position where they've

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Speaker 1: won I think it's four straight.

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Speaker 3: They got the offense, believe they or not starting.

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Speaker 1: To go a little bit as well, what are you

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Speaker 1: making this team out of the turnaround offensively? Now they

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Speaker 1: got to go up at Kansas City, which is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a huge game for both teams, especially obviously the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs if they want to keep their playoff hopes alive.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, she's gonna have a problem with that defense man,

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Speaker 6: because this defense really taken on de Vico Rhinson attitude.

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Speaker 6: And I'll tell you one of my favorite players to watch,

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Speaker 6: and I have been watching them since he's at Alabama's

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Speaker 6: and Anderson. Yeah, those guys like to get up get

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Speaker 6: after you up front. And it's not even just their

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Speaker 6: their front four. They don't need to go and bring

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Speaker 6: a bunch of exotic blitzes and things like that. Man,

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Speaker 6: they can beat you one on one. And the worst

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Speaker 6: time to play teams is when when they winning three

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Speaker 6: four games in a row and they're turning up in

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Speaker 6: December and as they're going to the playoffs and they

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Speaker 6: get healthy. But this team, man is taken on to

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Speaker 6: Miko vins attitude, and I will not be surprised if

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Speaker 6: they are a problem for many teams down the stretch.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Now, you talked to a minute ago this is at

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Speaker 5: this time of the year.

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Speaker 4: This is when teams are all kind of figuring it out,

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Speaker 4: getting ready for the stretch. Run on the A couple

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Speaker 4: here at Martin white fielding in for Rob Parker Kelvin

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Speaker 4: watching Sean Merriman on the phone. The three kings of

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Speaker 4: the AFC the last few years, the Chiefs, the Ravens,

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Speaker 4: the Bills, all kinds of reading the same book right

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Speaker 4: now in terms of early season struggles, Uh, not necessarily.

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Speaker 4: And the leader in their division at this time of

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Speaker 4: the year. Which one of those three, if you have

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Speaker 6: I would say the Bills, man, because they're off a

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Speaker 6: couple of plays here and there. The Ravens, they just

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Speaker 6: don't look like the same Ravens we've seen the last

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Speaker 6: couple of years. And I know that Lamar had that hamstring,

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Speaker 6: and I think he miss practiced in the day. So

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Speaker 6: even if he plays, he's not going to be one

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Speaker 6: and then that thing goes again. And so they don't

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Speaker 6: have a problem, but they just have too many, too

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Speaker 6: missing pieces. The Bills. You can look at a series

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Speaker 6: that game. The Ravens just aren't playing that good this

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Speaker 6: If you talking about anybody that got a real shot

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Speaker 6: and turn it around and getting in the postseason and

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Speaker 3: All right, Man, we got to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, no doubt, man, A lot of respect to you.

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Speaker 1: That's what one of the things the callers said too.

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Speaker 1: He was saying, just all that you've done, even after

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Speaker 1: No doubt saw maryor me go ahead and give him

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Speaker 1: a follow right there, All right, coming back. Man Martin

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Speaker 1: believes a big time program shouldn't be in the college

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Speaker 3: Get ready to get up for this Thursday night football.

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Speaker 1: We got that game coming up in I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe about thirty minutes or so. We'll continue to obviously

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Speaker 1: keep you updated on that when that gets rolling. And

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Speaker 1: the great stuff that he's doing as well, real quick, Martin, Mary, Moncey, Bree, everybody, we.

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Speaker 3: You're playing at Charlie Brown, Chriss.

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Speaker 1: You know Charlie Brown. Everybody loves the Charlie Brown Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Any Chris spends your jam like that's just like for me,

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Speaker 1: home alone is one of those, like I got a

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Speaker 1: watch is holiday season Christmas, holl alone is gonna be burned.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be burned up. Played a lot in my house.

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Speaker 1: We don't get a lot of that going on in

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Speaker 1: the Washington house. So home Alone is one of those

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Speaker 1: for me. What about y'all.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday I put on the Santa Claus with the Senate

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Speaker 4: Tim Allen.

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Speaker 5: Tim Allen, Ye, how about this thirty six years old? Yesterday?

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Speaker 5: Finally got it?

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Speaker 3: Oh I they spelled them.

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Speaker 4: With an E because it's the clause in the contract

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Speaker 3: That was pretty clever. Yeah, that's wanted. Ever the Christmas Story.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we all obligated TV, TBS or tn

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Speaker 1: T whichever one plays it for thirty seven hours in

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Speaker 1: a row whatever, so we all got to see that.

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Speaker 3: What about anybody else?

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Speaker 9: Monty Breeze, Yeah, yeah, jingle all the way with Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I love that one.

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Speaker 3: That's what I didn't introduce my daughter to that like

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Speaker 3: a year ago or so. That's that's a good one too.

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Speaker 3: That's a sleeper well sindbad right, simbads?

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Speaker 9: Yes, yes, it's so funny. So it's about an action figure.

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Speaker 9: Anybody else and then it's a wonderful life for me.

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Speaker 4: I know it's like really old, but I think that's

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Speaker 4: a classic, and I feel like it's always what.

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Speaker 9: Shop really really with you?

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Speaker 3: No serious?

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Speaker 5: What are you talking about that?

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Speaker 9: It's like a historical movie.

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Speaker 10: There's so much I want to watch during the Holidays

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Speaker 10: historical movie.

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Speaker 9: I will tell you this, it's a classic.

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Speaker 4: A Christmas Carol got played yesterday. The two thousand and

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Speaker 4: nine Jimmy jim Carrey version never.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Oh yeah, I'm not too dark? Too dark?

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Speaker 6: Look?

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Speaker 3: And what was it that?

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Speaker 5: It was too dark the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: And I guess in two thousand and nine this was

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Speaker 4: probably cutting edge, but in twenty twenty five I couldn't.

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Speaker 5: Deal with it.

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Speaker 4: Oh the animation, the whole thing looked like a video

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Speaker 4: game cut scene, so like I just wanted to keep

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Speaker 5: The next task. I was just having too much trouble.

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Speaker 3: I can't do this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well shoot, Happy Holidays to everybody. Uh, we gotta

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Speaker 1: That was a five seventy there on the call. All right, Martin,

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Speaker 1: Texas shouldn't be in the playoffs because of.

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Speaker 4: What I am sick and tired of watching millionaires, like

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Speaker 4: for how they have to be in this college football playoff.

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Speaker 4: And it's honestly, all of it is shameful. I'm from

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Speaker 4: a generation where you lose a game in November, you're

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Speaker 4: now ineligible to win.

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Speaker 5: The college football championship. I liked it better that way.

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Speaker 4: I know it wasn't probably the best way possible, but

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Speaker 5: Calvin is Texas.

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Speaker 3: Oh, oh, we.

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Speaker 4: We all left out of the playoff. We can't do

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Speaker 4: things like schedule Ohio State again. Oh my goodness, Texas

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Speaker 4: should be out of the playoff, not because you lost

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Speaker 4: to Ohio State, because you lost off Florida, who was

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Speaker 4: as okay terrible. They fired their coach midway through the season,

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Speaker 4: and you know where he landed, James Madison.

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Speaker 5: He didn't even get another Power five job. Why because

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Speaker 5: he was terrible.

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Speaker 3: Florida was terrible this year and the fact that they

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Speaker 3: lost to them and.

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Speaker 4: Every other single year of college football, but then valid

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Speaker 4: at them from being eligible to win a national championship.

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Speaker 3: I understand why Shark's doing it.

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Speaker 5: I get it. I get It's just shameful, that's all.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I totally get what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, obviously, ain't nobody gonna advocate for you

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Speaker 1: like yourself. So I get what the coach is doing.

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Speaker 1: But you're right that he turns into a beauty pageant

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Speaker 1: where gee, golly, let me tell you why this win

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Speaker 1: they do be each coach doing that for the last

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Speaker 1: six seven weeks.

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Speaker 3: But not only mentioned you mentioned in Florida, I'll out

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Speaker 3: one up you.

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Speaker 1: They had some games Martin where they're supposed to flat

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Speaker 1: out dominate and they didn't. Right, I mean, you look

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Speaker 1: at some of these other games on their schedule, and

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Speaker 1: they were supposed to just flat out bea Kentucky. They

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Speaker 1: beat them by three in overtime, right, sixteen thirteen?

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Speaker 3: Sixteen points is all you're putting up.

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Speaker 1: You look at some other games that they have against

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Speaker 1: UTEP with arch Man, who was supposed to be that guy.

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Speaker 1: You beat them twenty seven to ten. You're supposed to

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Speaker 1: destroy them. They had a bad stretch. You you beat

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Speaker 1: Mississippi State by only a touchdown and overtime.

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Speaker 3: Again, you had to go to overtime with them. So

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Speaker 3: it's not just a Florida.

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Speaker 1: I'll add you agree with you in there, but I

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Speaker 1: add the fact that they just didn't look that dominant

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Speaker 1: against teams they were supposed to do.

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Speaker 4: You remember Manti Tao, that Notre Dame team that got

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Speaker 4: molli OpEd. They had some close wins too, but you

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Speaker 4: know what, they had no lossage, no.

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Speaker 3: Lossage, great point.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see how it all shakes out at this

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Speaker 1: time next week.

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Speaker 3: It's the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio