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Speaker 1: and services the privacy minded crowd swears by, plus your

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Speaker 1: tech questions answered. What's going on? I'm Rich Demiro and

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Speaker 1: this is Rich on Tech. This is the show where

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Speaker 1: That's Rich on tech dot TV. Hit contact. All right,

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Speaker 1: We've got a packed show this week, very exciting, three

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Speaker 1: Financial guy Igor Paic is gonna explain what the heck

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Speaker 1: the end for that cryptocurrency, we'll talk about that. Jared Newman,

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Speaker 1: friend of the show, author of the Cord Cutter weekly newsletter,

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Speaker 1: is going to talk all things streaming TV and how

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Speaker 1: these personal AI assistants like Openclaw are all about. Well,

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Speaker 1: I hope you are having a fantastic day. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. Happy Valentine's Day weekend. Yes, all the songs

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Speaker 1: I am coming to you live from Las Vegas this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Why am I in Las Vegas again? Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: I know. It is my brother's bachelor party. I know.

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Speaker 1: People are winning, people are losing all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: So much to talk about this week. Let me start

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Speaker 1: with chat GPT because, as I say, the free ride

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Speaker 1: So if you're not paying anything, you might be seeing them.

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Speaker 1: DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology on a

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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day weekend? Do you celebrate? I know it's controversial.

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Speaker 1: Egor Pach. He is the author of the upcoming book

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Speaker 1: Tech Money. Egor, thanks for joining me.

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Speaker 2: Hi Rich, Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about bitcoin. Why why? Why why did

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Speaker 2: changed on the bitcoin fundamentals and the basics of the

431
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Speaker 2: investment hypothesis that many people had when buying them.

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Speaker 1: So bitcoin went from being sort of like a thing

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Speaker 1: that you might use to replace money to now it

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Speaker 1: became kind of an investment for a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: Like it's an investment venue. Do you believe in this?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that this is still the fundamentals are

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Speaker 1: there for bitcoin to last a long time? And you know,

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Speaker 1: for the average person that probably just bought in, Like

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Speaker 1: if you're not really that savvy, you just said, oh yeah, bitcoin,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, let me get in on this, and

441
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Speaker 1: you've lost all this money. Now what next?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly the point that many investors are facing.

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Speaker 2: If you get into something because you know, you see

444
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Speaker 2: other people getting rich off it, or your neighbor or

445
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Speaker 2: some expert tells you that it's a good investment, then

446
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Speaker 2: you do panicky this within times of turmoil, and I

447
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: think that's the most dangerous thing to do because what

448
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Speaker 2: you have to do is you have to check has

449
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Speaker 2: anything changed in those core principles that led you to

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Speaker 2: buy this asset in the first place. And I can

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Speaker 2: tell you the three most important things from my side

452
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Speaker 2: to look at is. Number one is the technological basis

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Speaker 2: sound and safe, and yes, we have seen this in

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Speaker 2: bitcoin now it's going since two thousand and nine, that's

455
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Speaker 2: never been hacked, never a serious any kind of serious,

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Speaker 2: major incident. And also the governance is there, so bitcoin

457
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Speaker 2: is arguably the most decentralized, the most safe asset technologically

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Speaker 2: in terms of governance that is out there in decentralized finance.

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Speaker 2: The second core principle is, you know, is the regulation

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Speaker 2: there to cover it? And we've seen in the US,

461
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Speaker 2: which is the major market worldwide for the future of crypto,

462
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Speaker 2: over the last one and a half years, we've seen

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Speaker 2: very strong laws and clear rules emerge. And we've seen

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Speaker 2: something that was rather part of a fraction of the

465
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Speaker 2: Republican Party turned into biparties, broad bipartisan support, so I

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Speaker 2: think there's no way going back. So crypto regulation is

467
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Speaker 2: here to stay. The rules of the game are clear.

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Speaker 2: We've seen the same in Europe with the markets and

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Speaker 2: crypto assets regulation. And the third thing is then you

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Speaker 2: have to ask yourself can this asset grow? Is there

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Speaker 2: enough room for growing? Because we've seen sellar appreciations thousands

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Speaker 2: of percent in some years innother years a couple of

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent, so really a lot. And here you

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Speaker 2: can basically never know because you have to estimate how

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Speaker 2: many people are going to buy bit koind of future.

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Speaker 2: But what you can do is look at market caps

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Speaker 2: of similar assets like gold. You know, we talk about

478
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Speaker 2: bitcoin less digital gold, and there you can see, you know,

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Speaker 2: depending on the bitcoin price, it's twenty thirty times the

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Speaker 2: market caps, so gold is twenty thirty times larger, which means, yes,

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Speaker 2: there is enough room to grow. So I would say

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Speaker 2: that nothing in those three fundamental areas has changed over

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Speaker 2: the last couple of days. So I don't see this

484
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Speaker 2: as a big sign to panic. It's just a temporary

485
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Speaker 2: macroeconomic situation that's kind of trickling down to the bitcoin

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Speaker 2: price at the moment.

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Speaker 1: So you think it sounds to me, like, if someone

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Speaker 1: has their money in this and they're worried. I mean,

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Speaker 1: in general, if you have any stock and it crashes

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Speaker 1: for some reason, and that reason I get it. In

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Speaker 1: what you're saying is if there's a if there is

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Speaker 1: a basis for that reason. Right, a company comes out

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Speaker 1: and like they're not selling any more phones, or they're

494
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Speaker 1: not making any more chips, or there's a major change. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this stock might go down and then it's like, okay,

496
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Speaker 1: well that there's a fundamental change in that company. But

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Speaker 1: with bitcoin, you're saying, these are all just kind of

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Speaker 1: like things that are happening in the greater world that

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Speaker 1: are that are reactionary. Nothing fundamental has changed about how

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Speaker 1: bitcoin works, why people believe in it, and all of

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Speaker 1: that stuff. Is that what I'm understanding. That's exactly the point.

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Speaker 2: And I would urge investors always to zoom out of it,

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Speaker 2: never make decisions based on, you know, just a temporary

504
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Speaker 2: market reaction and investor sentiment. But if you zoom out

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Speaker 2: and look at the history of bitcoin, and whenever you

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Speaker 2: got in there, you should have known that, you know,

507
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Speaker 2: these things can happen because in the history of bitcoin,

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Speaker 2: if you look at the last couple of years. Usually

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Speaker 2: things happen in four year cycles and once in those

510
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Speaker 2: four years, so there's one out of four years where

511
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Speaker 2: bitcoin plummeted. And actually fifty percent off that we're seeing

512
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Speaker 2: today is not that much in terms of bitcoin history,

513
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Speaker 2: because we've seen much worse eighty percent, eighty five percent,

514
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Speaker 2: much much worse plunges. But what happens also after these plunges,

515
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Speaker 2: at least that's what has been the case in the past,

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Speaker 2: is that you see three years in which Bitcoin outperforms

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Speaker 2: all other asset classes. Now that remains to be seen

518
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Speaker 2: if this will happen, But it's very important to zoom out,

519
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Speaker 2: don't panic, don't make your buy or sell decisions simply

520
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Speaker 2: on the current market mood and also not on macroeconomic cycles,

521
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Speaker 2: because what really matters here is the longer term picture.

522
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Speaker 2: And has anything changed in the initial reason why you

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Speaker 2: bought bitcoin and why you thought this was a good

524
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Speaker 2: investment a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: I've got less than a minute. I'm just curious what

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Speaker 1: keeps something else from coming along and becoming the next Bitcoin,

527
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Speaker 1: like just ups, you know, just wiping this thing out

528
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Speaker 1: and people say, oh this is better.

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Speaker 2: That's an excellent question. Many many other coins have tried.

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Speaker 2: The Ethereum, for example, has tried as well with a

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Speaker 2: slightly different approach, becoming you know, the engine of the

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Speaker 2: decentralized financial world, and some other bitcoin clones. But Bitcoin

533
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 2: has a very strong network effect. We see the bitcoin

534
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 2: dominance at some sixty percent, right, So sixty percent of

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Speaker 2: all of the value of the cryptosphere are constant art

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Speaker 2: in BITCOINI, which is a network effect because money is

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Speaker 2: a network business, and the more people use it, the

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Speaker 2: more valuable it gets. It's just like the US dollar, right,

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Speaker 2: So the US dollar is the world's number one reserve

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Speaker 2: currency and used currency, and this will not change any

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Speaker 2: time soon because it's very, very difficult to displace the

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Speaker 2: incumbent in a network based business.

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Speaker 1: All right, excellent excellent information. Egor Page, author of the

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Speaker 1: upcoming book Tech Money, A Guide to the New Game

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Speaker 1: of Technology Investing, coming out on May twenty sixth. Is

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Speaker 1: that all done? You all done writing that? Or what

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Speaker 1: is it?

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's completely done. It's in print, so you're you're ready.

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Speaker 2: It's ready to be pre ordered, so grab your copy today.

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Speaker 1: All right, It's on Amazon right now. Again. The book

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Speaker 1: is called Tech Money, I'll put a link to it

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Speaker 1: on the website rich On Tech dot TV. Egor, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for joining me today. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Rich all right, I think you calm some investors out there.

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Speaker 1: Eighty to eight rich one O one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five point five billion dollar settlement might be headed your way.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what that is right here on rich

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Speaker 1: On Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Gordon in Costa, Mesa. Gordon, you're on with rich

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Speaker 1: Line one. Gordon. Are you there all right? Hey? What

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Speaker 1: can I help you?

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Speaker 5: As I was trying to find a lap top computer

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Speaker 5: between fifteen and seventeen inch screen right now. I have

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Speaker 5: an Acer SFG fourteen seventy two Tango, but it had

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Speaker 5: been giving me a little bit of trouble, so I

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Speaker 5: wanted to get a backup laptop. I don't do any

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Speaker 5: billing on the computer. I do check my bank account

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Speaker 5: and retirement accounts, but I don't pay online and I

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Speaker 5: just surf along. So I was just wondering what you

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Speaker 5: had a suggestion on who with a good.

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Speaker 1: Laptop what's wrong with this laptop?

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Speaker 5: Well, the other day the screen went black and I

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Speaker 5: couldn't get it. It would I could sign in, but

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Speaker 5: then after I signed in, it went to a wha screen.

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Speaker 5: So I looked up on YouTube if there was anything,

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Speaker 5: and I did get it to come back.

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Speaker 6: But how old?

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Speaker 1: How old is this laptop?

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Speaker 5: It's a couple of years old?

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Speaker 1: Like are we talking five six seven? I mean it's

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Speaker 1: three years old?

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Speaker 5: Twenty twenty twenty three about it?

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Speaker 1: I mean, okay, you shouldn't need a new laptop after

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Speaker 1: three years. So is this does this support Windows eleven?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, this this laptop is perfectly fine. So unless there

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Speaker 1: is a unless there is an issue with it, like

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Speaker 1: a technical issue, like where it's a you know, something

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Speaker 1: is physically wrong with it. I think that this is

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Speaker 1: just a software issue. Have you tried to go through

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Speaker 1: and uninstall the programs that you don't need on this computer?

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Speaker 1: Have you gone through and done all the software updates

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Speaker 1: for this computer? And have you tried all that.

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Speaker 5: I have done the software upgrades, but I haven't gone

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Speaker 5: through and you know, got rid of things I don't need,

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Speaker 5: like in my files.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of files that I have to

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Speaker 1: go through, well the files. It's not so much the files,

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Speaker 1: it's more just like programs and apps that you might

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Speaker 1: have installed over the past couple years. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: this computer runs Windows eleven and it's only three years old,

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Speaker 1: there's no reason why you should need a new laptop.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 1: I can recommend new laptops all day long. I mean,

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00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: it's fine, but I don't think you need one. So

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Speaker 1: what I would do is go through your list of

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Speaker 1: programs the uninstall and just go through and whatever you

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Speaker 1: don't need, uninstall those programs. Then I would go through

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Speaker 1: the software update, make sure everything's up to date, restart

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Speaker 1: your computer, and if you have the problem still and

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Speaker 1: it's still giving issue, there's a thing that you can

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Speaker 1: do on Windows called a refresh, and so you can

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Speaker 1: actually basically it brings it back to the factory. So

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Speaker 1: they call it reset this PC. So if you want

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Speaker 1: to do that, Basically, if you have everything backed up,

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Speaker 1: you can keep your files if you want, but I

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Speaker 1: would recommend removing everything. That way you get a clean

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Speaker 1: wipe of everything. But then you can, you know, just

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Speaker 1: make sure your files are backed up somewhere and then

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Speaker 1: you can bring them back on. But that I think

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Speaker 1: will will solve all your problems. That's like the last

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Speaker 1: ditch effort, Like I would say, don't do that unless

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Speaker 1: this thing clearly doesn't work. But I would go through

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Speaker 1: and make sure everything's up to date, and that should

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Speaker 1: solve like ninety nine percent of your problems. Is this

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Speaker 1: happening on a web browser or like just in general

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Speaker 1: on your computer.

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Speaker 5: It's the only time it ever happened in.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, yeah, I think you're I think this computer's fine.

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Speaker 1: I think I don't think you should spend money on

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Speaker 1: a new one. I would I would go through and

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Speaker 1: kind of just give this thing a little a little

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Speaker 1: clean up and that should do it. So basically, if

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Speaker 1: the if the problem persists after you kind of update

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Speaker 1: all the software and clean everything out, then I would

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Speaker 1: go into the Windows reset your PC and that will

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Speaker 1: explain you know that will that will basically bring your

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Speaker 1: computer back to the factory. And that's the way you

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00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: can do it. So you can do this from the settings.

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Speaker 1: Let me just I'm looking up the way to do

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Speaker 1: it here. Basically, if you go into settings and then

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Speaker 1: system and then recovery, you can you can find that

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Speaker 1: process to start resetting your PC. But I think that's

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Speaker 1: gonna do it for you. I would not spend money

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Speaker 1: on a new computer, Gord, and hope that helps. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's go to John up. Thank you, Jordan. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to John in Rosemead line to John. You're on with Rich.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 8: Rich. I've been a customer of go daddy for many, many,

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Speaker 8: many many moons. I have multiple domain names.

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Speaker 1: Rit damn.

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Speaker 8: I think that's they they handle. I think it's called

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Speaker 8: the MX records of that. They handle all my email,

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Speaker 8: my different domains. But lately I'm having trouble using other

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Speaker 8: email clients because they I think they've moved to Microsoft

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00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 8: Authentication or something something. But recently I just followed as

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Speaker 8: mail bird and it was working fine. But then now

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Speaker 8: I'm getting authentication errors.

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00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 8: I'm just wondering, is it go daddy or what?

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Speaker 4: What do you.

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Speaker 8: Recommend as a host I guess for my domain names?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean if yeah, I mean, if they're if

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Speaker 1: you're having issues with it, I would I would switch.

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00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of other providers out there. Go

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00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: Daddy obviously advertised a lot over the years, so people

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Speaker 1: went with them and they're they're probably fine. I don't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of personal experience with them, so I

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00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: can't tell you, you know, whether I like them or not.

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00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: I just know them from their advertising most of the time.

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Speaker 1: And so I think there's some better email services out

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Speaker 1: there that I I here recommended over and over and

675
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: I can tell you those three, and I think you

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Speaker 1: should look into them and see if they might be

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00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: a better fit, uh for what you're talking about. And

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Speaker 1: they all offer business email. Now I think go Daddy too,

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00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: sells a lot of add ons, you know, like there's

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00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: a lot of things that you may not need, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many of those are on your plan,

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Speaker 1: but that's another aspect of like, you know, they might advertise,

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Speaker 1: you know, something cheap for email, but they might be

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Speaker 1: selling you a whole bunch of other stuff that you

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Speaker 1: may not use or need. So I think that these

686
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: products that I'm talking about pretty much specialize in email

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Speaker 1: and business email, and it seems like it's a pretty

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Speaker 1: good value. So the first one is proton Mail, which

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00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: a lot of these services I'm talking about are much

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00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: more secure, and that's what a lot of people like

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00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: these days. But proton Mail is they offer encrypted email

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00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 1: for your business starts at six ninety nine a month,

693
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: so you can do that. Gives you all the features

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Speaker 1: that you need, including your domain, so you can use

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Speaker 1: your existing domain. You would just have to move it

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Speaker 1: over to Proton. The other one is start mail, and

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00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: that one no ads, no tracking. You can have unlimited

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Speaker 1: you know, alternative emails like aliases. We call them encrypted emails.

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Speaker 1: That starts at five dollars a month or sorry, six

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Speaker 1: ninety nine a month for business, so you can do that.

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00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: And then the other one that a lot of people

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Speaker 1: like is called fast mail fast M A I L.

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00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: And then again that one for let's see here for

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Speaker 1: business basic is as cheap as three dollars a month.

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00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: That's if you only need about six gigs of storage.

706
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: But you can get your domain with all of these.

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Speaker 1: So I would take a look at those three see

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Speaker 1: which one might fit. And you said you had a

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Speaker 1: bunch of domains, so maybe just try migrating one of

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Speaker 1: them over to these new companies before you switch them all.

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Speaker 1: But I'll link them up on the website. Rich on

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Speaker 1: Tech dot TV, thanks for the call, John more rich

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Speaker 1: you're there. We got an email from Alex. He said, Hey, Rich,

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Speaker 1: I just heard the guy who got the black screen

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Speaker 1: on his laptop when it was eleven's recent update, and

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Speaker 1: he gave the number KB five oh seven four one

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Speaker 1: zero nine has caused black screen issues. He should check

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Speaker 1: to see if he has it. Either install the patch

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Speaker 1: four one oh five or uninstall four one oh nine

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Speaker 1: and pauses updates. Four one oh five has to be

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Speaker 1: installed before you can uninstall four one oh nine. You're welcome?

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Speaker 1: Is that English? What is I mean? I thought computers

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00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: were supposed to be simple. This is why people don't

733
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Speaker 1: like them. Why this Windows? I understand the recent Windows

734
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: updates have been a really rough ride for a lot

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Speaker 1: of people, so I typically tell people to install updates.

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00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: But the problem is with updates, we see this all

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Speaker 1: the time. You install an update and it causes problems.

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Speaker 1: And with these recent Windows eleven updates, there's a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of problems that they caused and then they had

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Speaker 1: to roll them back and tell people to reinstall new ones.

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Speaker 1: So maybe that will fix our callers issues. Hopefully it will,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. I see why people don't want

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Speaker 1: to install the updates. My computer works everything, I know, everything,

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00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: I understand. It's all good. I get it. It's like

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00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: I've got this figured out, and then you get an

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Speaker 1: update and everything changes, and so I understand. And we

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Speaker 1: usually say you got to do your updates because of

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Speaker 1: security reasons, because of exploits, all this stuff. You know,

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00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: the chances of that stuff happening to is probably pretty slim.

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Speaker 1: But I in general like doing updates just to make

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Speaker 1: sure that everything is working properly and smoothly. Coming to

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Speaker 1: you from Las Vegas this weekend. It is Valentine's weekend.

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Speaker 1: We went to the buffet here in Las Vegas, and

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Speaker 1: let me tell you, it's been a long time since

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Speaker 1: I've been to a buffet and it will be a

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00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: long time before I go to one again, because I

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00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like we're divided on this whole

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Speaker 1: buffet thing, Like, does anyone need to eat that much

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Speaker 1: in one sitting? They literally gave us ninety minutes of

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Speaker 1: eat time. I mean, what kind of world do we

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Speaker 1: live in where we're just I mean, we're just like

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00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: stuffing our faces with as much as we could crab legs, desserts.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've never had sixteen little tiny desserts in

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Speaker 1: my life in a city. But yet when you're out

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Speaker 1: a buffet, that's what you do. I tried Chinese food,

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Speaker 1: I tried Italian food, I tried seafood, I tried Mexican food.

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Speaker 1: I mean, every single type of food. Do you need

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Speaker 1: to eat every type of food on one sitting?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: But it was fun. We had a good time. You know,

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Speaker 1: we just sat there and chatted. But you know, it's like,

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Speaker 1: roll me home when I was done with that, Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh. Eighty eight rich one on one eighty eight

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Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Debora in Tennessee with a question about laptops. Deborah, Hello, Riche.

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Speaker 9: Hi, I want to buy a laptop Apple. I have

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Speaker 9: one that's so old I don't even know how it's

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00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 9: just really old. Anyway, So what's the difference being MacBook

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Speaker 9: Air thirteen MacBook Pro and what about a refurbished one?

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Speaker 1: Okay, good call. So number one, I'm glad that your

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Speaker 1: old MacBook lasted so long. And that's a testament to

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Speaker 1: the quality of these things. I feel like MacBooks last forever,

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Speaker 1: and then when I'm done with them, I can give

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Speaker 1: them to a family member and they still last. So

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00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. So the MacBook Air think of

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Speaker 1: that as a kind of for more light use. So

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Speaker 1: if you are just casually surfing the web, you are

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Speaker 1: just doing documents, emails, light video editing, light photo editing.

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Speaker 1: The MacBook Air is a great laptop. Now, I will

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Speaker 1: tell you I am a producer on my computer, like

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Speaker 1: I am editing every single day. I am pushing this

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Speaker 1: thing to its limits. And I am on a MacBook Air.

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Speaker 1: So it is a very high end computer for even

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Speaker 1: even the fact that it is lightweight and less expensive

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Speaker 1: than the MacBook pros. The mac Book Pros obviously have

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Speaker 1: sometimes maybe the better processors when you get up into

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Speaker 1: the higher end processors. They also may have more capacity

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Speaker 1: for things like memory and hard drive. They also may

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Speaker 1: have better graphics and just higher end specs for things like,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're really doing like high end video editing,

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Speaker 1: or you just want a professional computer with more ports,

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Speaker 1: perhaps that's the MacBook Pro. I've had the MacBook Pros,

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Speaker 1: I've had the MacBook Airs. I would say the MacBook Air,

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Speaker 1: if you're doing things at a higher end level, is

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Speaker 1: probably going to be a little bit slower day to

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Speaker 1: day on like certain tasks. But overall, I think ninety

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Speaker 1: nine point nine percent of casual users only need a

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Speaker 1: MacBook Air. So it really depends what you're going to

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Speaker 1: be doing on this computer whether you go with the Pro.

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Speaker 1: If you are a pro creator, then maybe you want

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Speaker 1: to get the Pro model. But I am and I

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Speaker 1: still have the Air and it works just fine. I

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Speaker 1: made that trade off because I travel a lot and

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Speaker 1: I wanted the lightest possible laptop in my backpack, and

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Speaker 1: so that's why I went with the Air. Now, when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the refurbished, yeah, you can go refurbished,

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Speaker 1: and it depends on the site. I only trust a

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Speaker 1: few sites for refurbished. Apple sells them themselves, and so

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Speaker 1: you could go to their website. You don't get a

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Speaker 1: huge savings. They're only up to fifteen percent off, so

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Speaker 1: it's better than nothing. But you know, let me see

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Speaker 1: what they have right now. So if we look at

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Speaker 1: the MacBook Air they've got, let's see, refurbished thirteen inch

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Speaker 1: MacBook Air M four is typically nine ninety nine. They're

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Speaker 1: selling it for eight forty nine, so not a huge difference,

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Speaker 1: but you know, that's that's pretty good. If I was

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Speaker 1: going to get a MacBook Air or any sort of

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Speaker 1: MacBook refurbished at this point, I would definitely go with

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Speaker 1: anything besides Intel. At this point, we've had four generations

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Speaker 1: of Mac chips, the M one, M two, M three,

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Speaker 1: M four. Yeah, the M one is definitely getting a

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Speaker 1: little bit older, but my wife uses an M one

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Speaker 1: chip for casual use and it's just fine. I would

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Speaker 1: say at this point, you probably want an M two

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Speaker 1: or an M three to let this laptop last a

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Speaker 1: long time. So that's Apple. And then if you want

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Speaker 1: a little bit more of a wide range of selections,

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Speaker 1: there's a company called back market that I like. Backmarket

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Speaker 1: dot com and they sell refurbished MacBooks as well, and

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Speaker 1: they have a wider range of these things. They have

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Speaker 1: some older ones, like you can get a MacBook Air

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Speaker 1: from twenty twenty, the M one series for three hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty nine dollars. I would not get that one.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit too old at this

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Speaker 1: point to get. But then they've got the M twoter

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Speaker 1: series starting at six thirty seven. They've got the uh,

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Speaker 1: let's see M three. Do they have an M three

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Speaker 1: on here? M three starting at about seven forty five,

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Speaker 1: So lots of options. When it comes to the maclaptops

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Speaker 1: for refurbished, I have no problem with the refurbished as

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Speaker 1: long as you're saving a decent amount of money and

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Speaker 1: you're buying it from a reputable source. Make sure you

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Speaker 1: check the return policy, make sure you check the warranty.

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Speaker 1: There are some other places that sell them, but I

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Speaker 1: would just be very careful because you don't want to

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Speaker 1: buy one on say one of those marketplace sites or

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Speaker 1: things like that, because you don't really know what you're getting.

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Speaker 1: Amazon sells renewed stuff and they have okay, interesting, they

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Speaker 1: do have laptops, So Amazon Renewed i'd probably trust as well,

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Speaker 1: because Amazon's a big, big company and they do sell

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, so I would I would probably

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00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: recommend them as well. So those are the places I'd

863
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: look for the laptop, and I think you'll love it.

864
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: Like I said, mine is. You know, I've got let's

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00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: see here, what do I have. I've got the fifteen

866
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Speaker 1: inch M three MacBook Air from twenty twenty four, and

867
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: it's just fantastic. Kim is chiming in, she's got the

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00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: fifteen inch twenty twenty three M two, and I'm sure

869
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Speaker 1: hers is great. So these things, you know, I find

870
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: that the Apple laptops last a really long time. They

871
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: just don't get bogged down as much as some of

872
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: the Windows laptops with all like the bloatwear and things

873
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: like that, and so I just find that when I'm

874
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: done with these, I can still pass them on to

875
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: a family member and they still have a good amount

876
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: of time with them, and just keep the software up

877
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: to date and of course the browser up to date

878
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: and things like that, and you'll be fine. Thanks for

879
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: the call, Deborah, really appreciate it. Eighty eight rich one

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Speaker 1: oh one eighty eight seven four to two four one

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00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: zero one. I gotta tell you, I know people love

882
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: and hate TikTok, but I never used it until this week,

883
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: and I think I'm I'm sold on it because of

884
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: this new feature. It is called local Feed, and it

885
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: is basically a feed that shows you videos tied to

886
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: your location. We're talking nearby restaurants, events, shops, local creators.

887
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 1: And I absolutely love it because I've never seen anything

888
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: like this. I'm flipping through my feed and when I

889
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: was in La it was all stuff around me, little

890
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: local restaurants, coffee places, undiscovered gems, stuff like that. In Vegas,

891
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: I for an hour last night just checking out all

892
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: the cool things that were in Vegas. I'm like, oh, yeah,

893
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: I know that. I know that. That's cool. That's a

894
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: cool restaurant. I mean, this is a huge breakthrough in

895
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: how we discover these short videos. And I think they

896
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: just nailed this feature. I guarantee you, mark my words,

897
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: I guarantee you Instagram will copy this feature because it

898
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: is so smart. Now keep in mind to power that feed,

899
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: the TikTok may ask you for your precise GPS location.

900
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: You don't have to give that to them, but they

901
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: may ask for it, and of course that's gonna give

902
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: them more data about you in general, So you have

903
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: to weigh the pros and cons. They can still show

904
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: you local stuff like for me, I don't have my

905
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: precise location on but they figured out that I'm in

906
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: Las Vegas based on my IP address for my phone,

907
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: so they can still figure out generally where you are,

908
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: but they want that precise GPS because of course they're

909
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: gonna be able to sell more ads. And this is

910
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: a very smart feature for getting people not only to

911
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: interact with TikTok more but in a local way, which

912
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: translates into sales, and it translates into visits for these restaurants,

913
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: these events, these shops. You might buy a ticket to

914
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: a local concert if you see it promoted there. I

915
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: think this is a huge deal. You can check it

916
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 1: out on TikTok up at the top it says local.

917
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: I am absolutely loving it and I never really like

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00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: TikTok in a big way for that. Eighty eight rich

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Speaker 1: one O one eight eight eight seven four to two

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Speaker 1: four one zero one. Coming up, we're gonna talk about

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00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: uh oh t Mobile has a new feature that turns

922
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: your phone into a live translator. That's amazing And if

923
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: you have a business, you might be getting this credit

924
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: card feat settlement. You might see that hitting your account

925
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: this week. So we'll talk about that coming up right

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Speaker 1: here on rich On Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

927
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Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology. Triple

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Speaker 1: eight Rich one O one eight eight eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. Go to the website

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech dot tv and hit contact if you

931
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: want to submit your question that way. A couple of

932
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Speaker 1: developments this week. Number one T Mobile is launching a

933
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,479
Speaker 1: new feature called Live Translation, and this is just next

934
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: level stuff. They've built this directly into their network. It's

935
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: translates phone calls in real time across more than fifty languages.

936
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Speaker 1: So the cool thing is you do not need a

937
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: special app, a new phone, or even a software update,

938
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: because this works on any device, even a flip phone,

939
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: as long as the call goes through T mobiles network,

940
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: and only one person on the call has to be

941
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: a T Mobile customer, so the other person could be

942
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: on any carrier. The feature is going to launch as

943
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: a beta this spring. You can sign up right now

944
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: if you're a customer to try it first. If you're

945
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: a T Mobile customer, and basically, once you're on a call,

946
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: you're going to dial a special code. I believe it's

947
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: Star seven Star. That won't work right now, but when

948
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: this is active and that will activate the translation and

949
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: then the system's going to listen to each side of

950
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: the conversation and translate it. And by the way, the

951
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: voices are going to sound like the person talking. I mean,

952
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: this is next level stuff, and this is built directly

953
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: into T mobiles network. So I got to tell you,

954
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: I think T Mobile, along with the Startlink stuff and

955
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: some of the other feet they've been doing, they are

956
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: killing it. They really really are. I mean, they're just

957
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: they keep adding new stuff, and I'm just not sure

958
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: I see that innovation from some of the other carriers

959
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 1: out there.

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00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 4: Now.

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00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: Yes, the mv and os, they're really competitive with price

962
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: and things like that, But I feel like TE Mobile

963
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: just keeps pushing out these new innovations that you know,

964
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: they've gone from kind of this company that was not

965
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: necessarily a leader in the marketplace to becoming a leader.

966
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: And they're really given Team Verizon and AT and T

967
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: a run for their money. It's very very clear to me.

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00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: And then if you have a small business. We talked

969
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: about this several years ago on the show. We had

970
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: Mitch gold Sewn from Scan My Photos on and he

971
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: talked about this idea that he basically went to Core

972
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: against these credit card companies and got them to settle

973
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: for five point five billion dollars involving these credit card

974
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: swipe fees. This went all the way to two thousand

975
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: and five. Basically, they claim that the card networks forced

976
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: merchants to pay excessive interchange fees. That's the money that

977
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: they pay to the processor when you swipe your card.

978
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: And by the way, that's why you're seeing all these

979
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: small businesses. If you want to use your credit card,

980
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, we're putting three percent extra your on

981
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: your bill because they don't they don't like these fees

982
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: that the credit card processors charge them. Now I have

983
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: my own thoughts on that. My feeling is if you're

984
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: doing business, that's part of the cost of doing business.

985
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: So either don't accept credit cards, but don't make me

986
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: pay an extra three percent. I really really have an

987
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: issue with that. Now I do it, and I have

988
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: to do it, and it doesn't keep me from using

989
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: my card. But at the same time, there are certain

990
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 1: costs of doing business that you just have to build

991
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: into your your you know, pricing, and I get it.

992
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: You can say, well, rich, why should I be penalized

993
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: if I'm not paid by credit card. I want to

994
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: save that money on my cash payment. Yes, but the

995
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: way the world is cards and so anyway, that's a

996
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: whole nother topic. And I'll tell you about my what

997
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: happened on the Bachelor party with the credit cards. Anyway,

998
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: So these settlements, the settlement payments are finally going out.

999
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: So if you had a US business that accepted Visa

1000
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: or MasterCard between twenty and four and twenty nineteen, and

1001
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: you signed up for this settlement, you might be getting

1002
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: a payout. So watch your bank account or watch your

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00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess it's going directly to the

1004
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: bank accounts. Maybe people already signed up for this, but

1005
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: check it out. The checks are going out right now.

1006
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: That's a big one, one of the largest anti trust

1007
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: settlements in US history. Okay, so I mentioned, you know,

1008
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm here with my brother's crew for the Bachelor party,

1009
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: and we were out to dinner and I actually were

1010
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: at the bar and I pulled out the woman brought

1011
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: the the bill to me, and I pulled out my

1012
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: debit card and I put it in the little shed,

1013
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 1: one of those little readers that they bring to you,

1014
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: and so I put it in there and the guys

1015
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: were watching like, whoa, what are you using a debit

1016
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: card for? Why aren't you using your credit card? Get

1017
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: the points? The points, the points. I said, oh no,

1018
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 1: here's my rule of thumb. If my card leaves my hand,

1019
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: I will use a credit card. If my card doesn't

1020
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: leave my hand, I will use my debit card. So

1021
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: because I was swiping my card right in front of me,

1022
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: the weight, the waiter or the attendant did not take

1023
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: my card away from me. Or if I'm not using

1024
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: it online, I will use my debit card. And that's

1025
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: for budgeting purposes, and the money's just gone. It's easier,

1026
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: it's simple. But they were like, oh, you're giving up

1027
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: the points, you're giving up the protection. Oh my gosh,

1028
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: I can't believe you're doing that. And I said, hold on,

1029
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: that's what I like to do, and that's my process.

1030
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: So in general, and I understand you get protections with

1031
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: a credit card. It's putting a little buffer between you

1032
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: and your money. Right, if someone gets your card number,

1033
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna you know, Chase or whoever Bank of America,

1034
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna credit you back that money. While

1035
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: they just don't give that money to whoever the processor

1036
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: was or the merchant that charged you for that. So

1037
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: it's it's a much more straightforward process than when you

1038
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: have your bank account your debit card. You have to

1039
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: say to your bank like, Okay, well I need my

1040
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: money back because that's my money and sounderstand why people

1041
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: feel that way, but personally, I just like the idea

1042
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: of it's easier to budget when I don't have to

1043
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: think about getting a huge bill at the end of

1044
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: the month. So for that reason, if I'm shopping online,

1045
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: yes I will use my credit card because think about it,

1046
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: my card is leaving my hand. But if I'm somewhere

1047
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: taped to pay, I will use my debit card because

1048
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm controlling my card number. It's not getting out there.

1049
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: And when you're using tap to pay, they're not giving

1050
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: your exact card number. They're giving a one time used

1051
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: card number or generated card number that you know is

1052
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: much more safe, is much safer than handing over your card.

1053
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: And so for that reason, I don't hand over my

1054
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: debit card unless I'm in control if I'm swiping, if

1055
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: I'm tapping, actually swiping is a whole other can of worms,

1056
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: because if you're still swiping your card. That's actually the

1057
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: most dangerous way of using your credit card or your

1058
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: debit card, because when you're swiping your card, they're actually

1059
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: capturing your physical card number, and that if that gets

1060
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: out there, game over. When you tap to pay, no

1061
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: matter what, whether you're tapping a card or your phone,

1062
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: they're only exchanging a one time number, and so your

1063
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: actual card number is protected. So always, always, always, when

1064
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: you can tap to pay, or if you insert to

1065
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: pay with the chip, that's the same thing. The chip

1066
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: is only exchanging a one time number. So those are

1067
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: the two safest ways to pay. I know I'm leaving

1068
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 1: points on the table, but at the end of the day,

1069
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: to each his own. If you want to use your card,

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Speaker 1: use it. I've got my system. You can use yours

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Speaker 1: if you like. Eighty eight rich one O one eighty

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two. Coming up, we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: all things streaming TV with Jared Newman. Up next, Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out

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Speaker 1: with you, talking technology. Triple eight rich one O one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 1: If you have a question about technology, give me a call.

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Speaker 1: We'll get you on right after this. Actually, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get back to the phones in just a moment. But first,

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite guests, Jared Newman, writes a couple

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Speaker 1: of great newsletters. One of them is called the Cord

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Speaker 1: Cutter Weekly Newsletter. He's always breaking down what's happening in

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Speaker 1: the world of streaming and there's a lot of changes.

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Speaker 1: Especially this week. We got a bunch of things. So Jared,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show. First off, Yeah, thanks for having

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Speaker 1: me back. Yeah, so let's start with YouTube TV because big,

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Speaker 1: you know, big announcement this week. They announced that they

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Speaker 1: have these new cheaper plans, but they're they're being weird

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Speaker 1: about this. I don't really understand why they keep like

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Speaker 1: teasing these plans, but like you still can't sign up

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Speaker 1: for them, you still can't see the channels in them.

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Speaker 1: Why do they keep doing It's just just to keep

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Speaker 1: people like on board, like what's going on here?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 10: It might be like a media inside baseball thing. You know,

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Speaker 10: there's a Bloomberg story earlier this week that had some details,

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Speaker 10: so maybe they felt like they had to have something

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Speaker 10: official out there with that. But it's supposedly I mean,

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Speaker 10: they said rolling out this week, and then I don't

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Speaker 10: I still don't think they've actually come out yet, but

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Speaker 10: they seem to be imminent, and I'm waiting to actually

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Speaker 10: see the full plan details before I can really do

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Speaker 10: a deep dive of comparison of all the different options

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Speaker 10: and how they compare to these other bundles. But it's

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Speaker 10: good to see that they're coming and, you know, potentially

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Speaker 10: save people a little bit of money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So the base plan, or I guess the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the standard plan on YouTube TV is about eighty three

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Speaker 1: dollars right now, and I know that because I just

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Speaker 1: recently canceled mine or put it on pause after the

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Speaker 1: NFL season ended. And I guess that's what they're trying

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Speaker 1: to upend here, is that they probably notice that people

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Speaker 1: come and go because they're paying so much every month,

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Speaker 1: But if they were paying a little bit less, maybe

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Speaker 1: they would just stick with it the whole year. So

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Speaker 1: they've got these genre based plans, and they've got a

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Speaker 1: sports plan for about sixty five dollars a month. They've

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Speaker 1: got an entertainment only plan for about fifty five dollars

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Speaker 1: a month that doesn't have sports. Then you've got a

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Speaker 1: news plan, So tell me a little bit about these plans.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, So, I mean, also worth pointing, I feel like

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Speaker 10: this is not even so much YouTube TV that's driving

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Speaker 10: this as it is. The TV networks are kind of

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Speaker 10: a little more open now to slimmer packages. You know

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Speaker 10: that they've seen the declines in their TV business and

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Speaker 10: they are willing to offer some flexibility. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 10: you know, this is a sixty five dollars per month

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Speaker 10: sports plan. You still get the local broadcast channels, and

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Speaker 10: you get the news channels, and so if that's the

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Speaker 10: main thing you care about with your TV package, then

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Speaker 10: it kind of makes sense to like chop off the

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Speaker 10: entertainment stuff and then they have that news. They have

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Speaker 10: a sports and news bundle that's seventy two dollars a month,

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Speaker 10: and that adds the CNNs and ms NOWS and Fox News,

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Speaker 10: and that kind of lines up with Direct TVs My

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Speaker 10: sports package, which is seventy dollars a month, and that's

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Speaker 10: very similar. It has despite the name, it has news

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Speaker 10: and sports and local channels. It's actually a couple dollars

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Speaker 10: cheaper than what YouTube is offering, which I was kind

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Speaker 10: of surprised about. I figured that YouTube would undercut them,

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Speaker 10: But yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean those are the ones to beat right now. I

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Speaker 1: mean Direct TV came out with their plans. What do

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Speaker 1: they call my Genre or something like that.

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Speaker 10: They just call them genre packs. But yeah, my Sports

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00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 10: is seventy my News, which is sneakily if I know

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Speaker 10: a lot of people that can't get TV with an

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Speaker 10: antenna and they're like, I just want to stream the

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Speaker 10: local channels. And despite the name, it actually has all

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Speaker 10: four local channels in many areas, including LA and it

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Speaker 10: comes with the cable news station. So that's kind of

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Speaker 10: a sneakily interesting package. And then they had this My

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Speaker 10: Entertainment Plan, which is thirty five dollars a month, and

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Speaker 10: it's it's just kind of these non sports, non broadcast

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Speaker 10: channels that are entertainment oriented but also includes Hulu and

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Speaker 10: Disney Plus and HBO Max, so kind of interesting to

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Speaker 10: compare that to what YouTube is doing. They're not really

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Speaker 10: bundling any streaming services except I guess ESPN Unlimited is

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Speaker 10: coming in the fall to the Sports plan, but they're

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Speaker 10: not bundling like Hulu and Disney Plus right now.

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Speaker 1: So this is all yeah, I mean, this is all

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Speaker 1: like in between stuff. If you ask me I mean,

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Speaker 1: what we really want is the ability to say, here

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Speaker 1: are the five channels that I want, let me subscribe

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Speaker 1: to them, and that's it. I want them all. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're five dollars each. I want ESPN and by the way,

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Speaker 1: when it's basketball season, I want the local regional sports channel,

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Speaker 1: and then I don't need that, you know, the rest

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Speaker 1: of the time. But I mean, nobody wants to do

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Speaker 1: that because there's so much money at stake here, right yeah,

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Speaker 1: And you.

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Speaker 10: Know, all of the if you were to have that

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Speaker 10: kind of thing, all of the networks would charge a

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Speaker 10: lot more for each channel. I mean, if you look

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Speaker 10: at this, you know, outside of this bundle kind of

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Speaker 10: system that we have here, you already kind of have

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Speaker 10: a la parte in the sense that you can subscribe

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Speaker 10: to ESPN by itself. You can now subscribe to Fox

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Speaker 10: all of Fox's channels by itself. You can subscribe to Netflix, Hulu,

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Speaker 10: Disney Plus, and eventually you start to add those up

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Speaker 10: and it does end up being more than some of

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Speaker 10: these packages. So the environment that we're in right now

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Speaker 10: is you kind of have to look at all the

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Speaker 10: different ways to slice and dice things and figure out

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Speaker 10: the best the best way to do it for you,

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Speaker 10: and hopefully that is not you know, you subscribing to

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Speaker 10: everything under the sun, being a little smarter about what

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Speaker 10: you need and what you don't.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I want to get to a couple more topics.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about streaming baseball in twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: because this is coming up. So explain what do we

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Speaker 1: need to know?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so you know we're starting to see I mean,

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Speaker 10: we've had this for a few years now, but just

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Speaker 10: more standalone options. So if you are outside of this

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Speaker 10: TV bundle system and you just want to watch your

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Speaker 10: local team, there are a lot more options now to

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Speaker 10: just be able to pay for a plan that is

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Speaker 10: your local in market team. MLB expanded that a lot

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Speaker 10: this year with team specific packages and different markets in

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Speaker 10: LA where you are. They had this last year too.

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Speaker 10: There is NLA Plus, which is sports that at LA

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Speaker 10: by itself. It's actually offered through through Major League Baseball

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Speaker 10: in a partnership, and it's two hundred dollars for a season.

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Speaker 10: We're thirty dollars a month, which is a lot. But

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Speaker 10: you know, if you don't want a whole TV package

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Speaker 10: and you just want to watch the Dodgers, it's nice

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Speaker 10: to have that, and so there's a lot of equivalents

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Speaker 10: like that. They're a bit cheaper in some of the

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Speaker 10: other markets where the teams are smaller, but it's just,

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Speaker 10: you know, you have to make sense of all these options.

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Speaker 10: I get a lot of questions about do I need

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Speaker 10: MLBtv or do I need one of these team packages?

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Speaker 10: And the thing that really take away is MLBtv is

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Speaker 10: for out of market. So your favorite team lives somewhere

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Speaker 10: else from you know, not in the city where you are,

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Speaker 10: you would sign up for MLBtv. And if it's a

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Speaker 10: team that would normally be on live local TV in

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Speaker 10: your area, you want to look for one of these

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Speaker 10: local team specific packages.

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Speaker 1: Now when you say that the team specific, like, I'm

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Speaker 1: on the MLB website and it's got s n Y.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's for New York area.

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Speaker 10: Yeh, s NY is for the Mets. So yeah, so

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Speaker 10: if you were looking for that. And then there's if

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Speaker 10: you were a Yankees fan, there's Yes Network, which is

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Speaker 10: via goth of Sports. I'm in Cincinnati and so now

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Speaker 10: MLB is running the service called reds dot TV. That's

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Speaker 10: twenty dollars a month or one hundred dollars for the season,

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Speaker 10: and there's Cardinals Dot TV and Mariners dot.

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Speaker 1: How do you find these? Is there one place to

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Speaker 1: find all these?

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Speaker 10: Not really, I actually have a spreadsheet. I need to

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Speaker 10: update it for twenty twenty six, but they do have

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Speaker 10: a spreadsheet that is basically, like, you want to watch baseball,

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Speaker 10: here's the in market options for every market, and you

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Speaker 10: can look at up but you know, you just have

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Speaker 10: to kind of look at your local team and see

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Speaker 10: what the in market option is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting because we did that with basketball. My

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Speaker 1: kid likes to watch a certain team and we just

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Speaker 1: subscribe to basically the team has a streaming service and

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Speaker 1: it's a certain price for the whole season, and it's

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Speaker 1: great you just but you only get their games. But

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Speaker 1: it's kind of all you need. I mean, this stuff

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Speaker 1: is getting so complicated because it used to be, you know,

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Speaker 1: one big bundle got you everything, and it was just

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Speaker 1: how much did you want to pay and how much

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Speaker 1: you know, did you access. Now it's like you can

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Speaker 1: really pick and choose. We're very much in an in

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Speaker 1: between world where like it's getting better but it's not perfect.

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Speaker 10: But I feel it's getting worse because on one hand,

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Speaker 10: like it's great that I can now watch the Reds

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Speaker 10: without paying one hundred dollars a month for a cable package.

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Speaker 10: But it does create more confusion in terms of like

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Speaker 10: where do you go to get these things? And potentially

1257
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 10: you could endup spending more if you're not careful about

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Speaker 10: what you end up getting.

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Speaker 1: Okay, before we have to go, I often get questions

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Speaker 1: about people email me. They say, hey, Rich, I want

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Speaker 1: to get the watch TV three thousand bocks. It's a

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Speaker 1: black box. All my friends have it. They get everything

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Speaker 1: for free, and these I call them black boxes. I

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Speaker 1: cannot recommend them, but explain briefly what these are and

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Speaker 1: not can we recommend these?

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Speaker 6: No, Right.

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Speaker 10: The main thing, first of all, is that a lot

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01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,959
Speaker 10: of times people don't realize these are piracy. It seems

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01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 10: obviously intuitive to you and I that if something is

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Speaker 10: like twenty dollars a month for one thousand cable TV channels,

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01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 10: that's probably not legitimate. But you know, not everybody has

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Speaker 10: that same familiarity with things as we do. And you know,

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Speaker 10: I don't condone these things, but if you're gonna do it,

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01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 10: my advice is like, at least know what you're getting into.

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Speaker 10: And there are issues with these these devices and services.

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01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 10: They could stop working tomorrow. The apps are generally kind

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01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 10: of janky and weird. If you go off looking for

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01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 10: these services, you could wind up on a malware site

1279
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 10: or something like that. And I've heard from people who,

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01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 10: you know, they spent three hundred dollars on a quote

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Speaker 10: fully loaded streaming box at a flea market and then

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Speaker 10: it stopped working. So you spend three hundred dollars for

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Speaker 10: a paperweight, So you know you're.

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Speaker 1: Going to go down that road.

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Speaker 10: You really just have to have a familiarity of what

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Speaker 10: is you're getting into.

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Speaker 1: Oh, when you just said that flea market thing, it

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Speaker 1: reminded me of the article this week on The Verge.

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Speaker 1: It was everyone is stealing TV and it is a

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into these black boxes, and it is

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Speaker 1: it is an entire cottage industry, and it is wild,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's a very deep dive. Like I'm talking,

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Speaker 1: there's certainly like twenty.

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Speaker 10: Those and like you know, just some neighbor that's like

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Speaker 10: going door to door because they have some kind of

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Speaker 10: affiliate thing.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's yes, it's out there. Yeah, it's out there.

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Speaker 1: So I say, my, I say stick to the official

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Speaker 1: platforms like a fire TV, a Roku, Apple Tea. What

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Speaker 1: else is there? Google TV?

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Speaker 10: You know, the thing is that with these services, you know,

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Speaker 10: if you go to their websites and they don't have

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Speaker 10: like an actual official app on Roku or fire tv,

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Speaker 10: and they have some weird method where you need to

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Speaker 10: sideload the app, that's a big red flag that is

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Speaker 10: not a service that's on the up and up.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jared Newman, We're gonna leave it there. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for joining me. Coordcutterweekly dot com is the website.

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Speaker 1: Coordcutterweekly dot com get all the updates from Jared in

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Speaker 1: the world of streaming TV. Thanks for joining me today, Jared.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Rich appreciate it all right, coming up more of

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Speaker 1: your calls. Eighty eight Rich one oh one. This is

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich

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Speaker 1: DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology. Triple eight

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Speaker 1: Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. As always, everything I

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Speaker 1: mentioned on the show is on the website. I take

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Speaker 1: very good show notes. This is episode one sixty one,

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Speaker 1: So if you go to rich on Tech dot tv

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Speaker 1: you can see all the show notes in live lifetime,

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Speaker 1: real time, so if I mentioned something, it is all there.

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Speaker 1: And then while you're there, you can watch my segments

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Speaker 1: from TV. You can subscribe to the podcast version of

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Speaker 1: this show, my newsletter which is free, and you can

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Speaker 1: even search the website as well, so it's all there

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Speaker 1: on the website. Rich on tech dot TV. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's go to Greg in Canada, Line one. Greg, you

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Speaker 1: are on with Rich.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna start off by saying that I'm completely blind,

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Speaker 6: so there's all things I can't do myself. But the

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Speaker 6: problem I'm having is I have a Google Pixel nine

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Speaker 6: and the form to be sitting on the table or

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Speaker 6: on the just chache beside me, and I'll hear a

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Speaker 6: phone number from the radio from my smart speaker and

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Speaker 6: it will dial that number is meaning out saying anything.

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Speaker 6: I would have thought that.

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Speaker 4: Ah okay, this sounds I'll listen to American radio and

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Speaker 4: I get dinged mon distance calls calling the States.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a problem. I mean, it's so basically

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Speaker 1: what it sounds to me that Google is listening. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we know that phones are always listening

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Speaker 1: for a hot word right to activate, and with Google

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Speaker 1: that's typically hey Google or okay Google, and so my

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Speaker 1: phone just activated. But I said that, sorry if I

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Speaker 1: just activated. Lots of phones across the country. But you know,

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Speaker 1: so that's what's happening. I think this kind of phantom

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Speaker 1: calling that you're talking about is something your phone is

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Speaker 1: interpreting whatever said before that phone number is activating your

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Speaker 1: phone to listen, and then it's dialing that number. So

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Speaker 1: what you have to do is go in and turn

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Speaker 1: off the sensitivity for that that. Let's just say, hate

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Speaker 1: h Google. Right now, here's the problem with that. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned that you're blind. You use that feature though.

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Speaker 6: I use your show of read text messages stuff like that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: See, therein lies the issue, because you can't turn this

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Speaker 1: feature off because you want to have the ability to

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Speaker 1: use that the hands free calling and the voice calling

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Speaker 1: or the you know anything if you just want to

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Speaker 1: ask a question, play things. So here's what i'd recommend Google.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if you have a feature. I believe that

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Speaker 1: you can turn off that feature by flipping your phone over.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard about that?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Okay, uh so I believe I'm gonna try this right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna well, I can't try it right now on

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Speaker 1: the radio because I want to I don't want to

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Speaker 1: activate everyone's phone. But I believe if you flip over

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Speaker 1: the pixel, it turns off that listening feature. I know

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Speaker 1: it does it on the iPhone. I have to to

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Speaker 1: confirm that, but I would say in general, I think

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Speaker 1: it's called like flip to shush. I think it's called

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Speaker 1: so if you go there, let's see here, Let's see

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Speaker 1: if I can find that in the settings. Flip to shush. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: so if you flip, okay, if you place your phone

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Speaker 1: face down on a flat surface, it will silence calls

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Speaker 1: and notifications. But I'm wondering. I don't know if it

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Speaker 1: actually turns off the the hey Google situation. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: I just did it again. Okay, But I think that's

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Speaker 1: where we're gonna go. I'd have to do a little

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Speaker 1: bit more research, Greg, but I think that's in the settings.

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Speaker 1: There may be another additional setting for in the accessibility

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Speaker 1: settings to kind of hone this in and to make

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Speaker 1: it so it's not as sensitive when you are not

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Speaker 1: using it, and it's you know, but you can still

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Speaker 1: get the use of that phone. And I'm looking through

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Speaker 1: my excess Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 6: Well only I obtuly would be call my provider and

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Speaker 6: block calling American numbers probably and uncle or just inside

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Speaker 6: Portland that they do want to call, so either be

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Speaker 6: used ability to call them or.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be that that would come. Yeah, that is

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Speaker 1: frustrating and it's a it's definitely an issue. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna test off the air to see if that

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Speaker 1: works with the flip the flip over, and I will

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Speaker 1: also kind of investigate this a little bit more because

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you're not the only one that's having this issue,

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Speaker 1: because I know my phone goes off all the time

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Speaker 1: because you're just you know, you're just saying something and

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Speaker 1: it interprets it as the keyword.

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Speaker 6: And so that's with Samsung. What I upgraded to this phone?

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Speaker 6: Why do you figure out how to answer a phone

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Speaker 6: called my voice?

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Speaker 1: And how do you do that?

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Speaker 6: I just found it. Instead of saying okg answer call,

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Speaker 6: you just say answer call.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so that I think calls okay. Yeah. It

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Speaker 1: is frustrating once you get the hang of certain features,

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Speaker 1: and they they are different, but overall, I think the

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Speaker 1: Pixel is a good phone. I think it's you know,

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Speaker 1: for the voice activation. All that stuff is pretty good.

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Speaker 1: But uh yeah, sorry, that's that's quite the issue. That's

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Speaker 1: you don't you don't want this thing calling international numbers

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Speaker 1: and getting built for it. So Greg, I'll take a

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Speaker 1: look during the during the break to see if I

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Speaker 1: can find any more details on how to do that.

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Speaker 1: But great question. Thanks for the call today, Really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Eighty eight Thanks for listening up there in Canada. Eighty

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Speaker 1: eight Rich one oh one eighty eight seven four to

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Speaker 1: two four one zero one. H. Clark emails. He says,

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Speaker 1: when I open a PDF of my two year old

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Speaker 1: hp n V running Windows eleven, Microsoft Word pops up

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Speaker 1: and says it's going to convert the PDF into an

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Speaker 1: editable word document. I don't want that. I want it

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Speaker 1: left as a PDF, especially since I created it as

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Speaker 1: a PDF in the first place. I already use an

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Speaker 1: online PDF editor when I need to make changes. How

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Speaker 1: do I turn off this word conversion feature? I love

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Speaker 1: your show on KFI. Uh, this is not a word problem.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like your default app in Windows is set

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Speaker 1: to open PDFs in word, so word assumes that you

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Speaker 1: want to convert them when that happens. So I think

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Speaker 1: the fix is pretty simple, Clark. You have to change

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Speaker 1: your default app for PDFs to a true PDF reader

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Speaker 1: like Adobe Acrobat or whatever you want. So in Windows

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Speaker 1: eleven you can go to Settings Apps, Default Apps and

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Speaker 1: then search for pdf and switch it from Word to

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Speaker 1: whatever your preferred PDF viewer is. Once you do that,

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Speaker 1: it should be fine. Adobe must know this is a

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Speaker 1: problem because they have a let's see, they have a

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Speaker 1: special document. Let's see if I can find it here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they have an entire web page set Adobe as the

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Speaker 1: default PDF program. So they've got a whole web page

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Speaker 1: that explains how to do that. I'll link that up

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Speaker 1: on the website as well. Thanks for the email. Eight

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Speaker 1: to eight rich one on one eighty eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. Coming up, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about but the apps and services you can use

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Speaker 1: if you want to distance yourself from big tech. Rich

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Speaker 1: on Tech. Mor of it coming up right after this. Okay,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to rich on Tech. I was gonna sing

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Speaker 1: the chorus and then I thought better of it. My

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Speaker 1: name was rich Demiro. Thanks for being here rich on

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Speaker 1: tech dot TV, hanging out with you talking technology. So

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Speaker 1: much to talk about. It's all on the website. Rich

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Speaker 1: On tech Dot TV earlier before the break, we had

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Speaker 1: Greg who is blind. He said that his phone, specifically

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Speaker 1: a pixel, was dialing phone numbers that it would hear

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Speaker 1: on TV and so I was looking for a way

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Speaker 1: to stop that from happening. And sure enough, clearly he's

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Speaker 1: not the only one, because there is a specific setting

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Speaker 1: inside the pixel to make this to keep this from happening.

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Speaker 1: So Greg, here's where you go. You open up the

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Speaker 1: Gemini app on your phone and you go into settings,

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Speaker 1: and there is a setting that says Gemini on lock screen,

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Speaker 1: and you can leave the one that says use Gemini

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Speaker 1: without unlocking, and that means you can still ask it questions,

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Speaker 1: get answers, do whatever you need to do, but toggle

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Speaker 1: off the switch next to make calls and send messages

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Speaker 1: without unlocking. So that means when you want to dial

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Speaker 1: a phone number, and Greg mentioned that he uses his

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Speaker 1: voice to dial numbers a lot, you will have to

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Speaker 1: just unlock your phone first. But that's good because it'll

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Speaker 1: keep you from dialing those numbers, those international numbers, and

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Speaker 1: getting charged for them from the commercials and things that

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Speaker 1: you hear that your phone is misinterpreting. So again you

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Speaker 1: go into Gemini, go into settings GEMI onlock screen, outgoing

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Speaker 1: calls and messages. Turn off the toggle next to make

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Speaker 1: calls and send messages messages without unlocking. Somehow that must

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Speaker 1: have gotten turned on on your device. Good question, always

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Speaker 1: good when we can find the answer. You know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: I may not be able to get it figured out live.

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Speaker 1: It's it's very tough to search for these things when

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Speaker 1: you're live. But if I don't know it off the

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Speaker 1: top of my head, I will search and I did

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Speaker 1: find it. Eighty eight rich one oh one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. If

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Speaker 1: you have a question big tech. You know, people are

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Speaker 1: finding they have a love hate relationship with big tech

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Speaker 1: and the It's funny the guys I'm hanging out with

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Speaker 1: this weekend, they are all into privacy centric alternatives, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: they're not into Google, they're not into Facebook, they're not

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Speaker 1: into Meta, they're not into Instagram, they're onto TikTok, they

1493
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: are into now. They get really nerdy with their stuff.

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01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: But there are some things that you can do to

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01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 1: kind of decouple yourself from these big tech companies. Now

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01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 1: I have a love hate relationship, obviously, I think a

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01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: lot of the products that big tech puts out are

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01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: great and they're very convenient, but they are tracking you,

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01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: and they are using your data to make money off

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01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 1: of you and market to you. And of course there's

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01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,759
Speaker 1: always private concerns with having your data in their cloud.

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01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: If it's not fully encrypted, it could be a problem

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01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 1: if there's ever a breach. So there's all these things.

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01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: So this is why people look at these alternatives. And

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01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that these guys have been

1506
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: talking about this all weekend long. But the Verge in

1507
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: their newsletter this weekend, the installer put out all the

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01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 1: crowd favorites of these privacy first alternatives. So here they

1509
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: are what they recommended. Number one, the name that keeps

1510
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: coming up over and over is Proton, and I've talked

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01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,759
Speaker 1: about them on the show. They offer email, they've got calendar,

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01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:38,480
Speaker 1: cloud storage, documents, and it's all built around privacy. Proton

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01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,799
Speaker 1: is synonymous with privacy, So if you're looking for privacy

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01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 1: centric things, that is really your first stop when it

1515
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 1: comes to messaging. The clear favorite is Signal, and this

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01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 1: is free and end to end encrypted. You've probably heard

1517
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: about it from a lot of the security experts out there.

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01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,799
Speaker 1: They like Signal. Now WhatsApp is end to end encrypted,

1519
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: but it's owned by Meta and specifically they're looking at

1520
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 1: some other things. Some of the metadata around your texts

1521
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: that you know may not have the contents, but there's

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01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: other data that they are collecting about you and how

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01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,879
Speaker 1: you use their products that people don't like, and so Signal.

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01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: It's going to take some convincing get your friends and

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01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 1: family to use it, but it is much more secure.

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01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,600
Speaker 1: And then if you want kind of a cloud system,

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01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 1: next cloud. Next Cloud is the cloud system that these

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01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: privacy centric folks like. So let me look this up.

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01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: Next Cloud. I had not heard of this one, but

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01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 1: let's see what they have. This is kind of a

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01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 1: self hosted cloud. If they promote themselves as the better

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01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: Microsoft three sixty five for private clouds. And this looks

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01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:43,879
Speaker 1: like it's going to take a little bit of setup

1534
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 1: to figure out. So it's not something that you can

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01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: just you know, download and use instantly. It might take

1536
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: a little bit more know how. But they've got files

1537
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: talk all kinds of office, all kinds of things, and

1538
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 1: does it cost anything? I don't know. I'd have to

1539
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: look more into that. I wasn't not that familiar with

1540
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: that one. Now here's the product that my friend or

1541
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: my brother and one of his best have been talking

1542
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: about all weekend long. It's called Home Assistant. And this

1543
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 1: is pretty much like the nerds dream when it comes

1544
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 1: to controlling the smart home stuff in your house. It's

1545
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:23,759
Speaker 1: all open source automation, and it supports thirty four hundred

1546
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 1: different integrations and it they've been showing it to me

1547
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 1: all weekend. It's pretty cool and you can connect just

1548
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: about everything. Let's see the different integration. So Alexa Assistant,

1549
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: Google home Kit, Ikea, Smart Things, I mean, all the

1550
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: pretty much all the big brands are there. Let's see

1551
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 1: if something like Ring is there. Oh, you can even yeah,

1552
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 1: Ring is there. Let's see if Wise is there, Whys

1553
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 1: is not there? Interesting? Let's see if oh my gosh,

1554
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 1: ACU Weather, Oh this is this is pretty impressive. It's

1555
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 1: got support for almost every smart home brand I've ever

1556
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: seen in my life. So that's really interesting. And that's

1557
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 1: called home Assistant. They cannot speak highly enough of that. Now,

1558
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 1: when it comes to search, a lot of people like

1559
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: more privacy focused search. In fact, my story on Monday

1560
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: on TV is all about these privacy focused search engines

1561
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: and Kagi is who I interviewed Kagi And this is

1562
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: actually paid search, so you pay them for your search,

1563
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: but your search is really private, and so you can

1564
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 1: try it for free of course, but then if you

1565
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 1: want to use it for you know, indefinitely for more searches,

1566
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay. But it's much more private

1567
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 1: than something like Google. So they're not selling your data,

1568
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 1: they're not collecting it, they're not compiling it, and so

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01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 1: that's there.

1570
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 4: Now.

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01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 1: When it comes to browsing the web, Firefox is the

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01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: is the fan favorite of all these privacy centric folks.

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01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: So that's another one. But there are other browsers out

1574
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: there that protect your privacy, like Brave is another one,

1575
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 1: O'Ryan if you are on Mac, is a good one

1576
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: that I kind of discovered for the iPhone is really

1577
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 1: cool too. So those are some privacy centric browsers. On

1578
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 1: the computer side, I know, oh my gosh, I don't

1579
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: talk about Linux very much on this show, but Linux

1580
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: Mint is very popular and you can run it on

1581
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,799
Speaker 1: a wide variety of computers. It feels kind of familiar

1582
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 1: to Windows users. I don't think that's something that the

1583
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: average person is going to install, but if you have

1584
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 1: a smart friend that is tech savvy and they're willing

1585
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 1: to set that up for you. You could probably do just

1586
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 1: fine on it if you are just using a web browser,

1587
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 1: because that's really the main thing people are doing nowadays

1588
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: is using a web browser. So that'll easily handle it.

1589
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about all the viruses and

1590
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: pop ups and things like that. For using Linux Mint

1591
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: on phones, obviously it's an iOS or Android world, but

1592
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: a lot of tech savvy users, including my brother, he's

1593
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 1: all into this graphene os, and so you can install

1594
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 1: that on certain I think it's just pixel phones at

1595
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: this point, but that's another Let's see graphene Os. That's

1596
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: another operating system that is completely secure. It's a privacy

1597
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: centric system and it is a nonprofit, open source. So

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01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 1: let's see what the installation. I could probably figure out

1599
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: how to install this with a command line installation. I

1600
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: could probably figure that. I used to do all the

1601
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,799
Speaker 1: ROMs on my phones back in the day on Android,

1602
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 1: and I used to love installing them, and of course

1603
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: they never worked the way you wanted them to. There'll

1604
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: always be some sort of problem, but at least it

1605
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 1: was fun to have it. Let's see. Okay, so you

1606
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:35,879
Speaker 1: got that Jellyfin for media. Again, I'm not too familiar

1607
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: with that one, but that's kind of an open source

1608
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: alternative to Plex, which lets you stream your own movies

1609
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: and shows for notes, Obsidian keeps coming up over and over.

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01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:49,480
Speaker 1: People love Obsidian. I've told you that I have used Obsidian.

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01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 1: I really do like it. It does use markdown, but

1612
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: what I like about it is that all of your

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01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 1: files are first and foremost in your own cloud or

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01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 1: your own computer, and it goes from there. So most

1615
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 1: of the way note programs work is that you're using

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01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: their cloud to store all of your stuff. By default, Obsidian,

1617
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 1: you are creating your own fault on your computer or

1618
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 1: on your own cloud, and that's the way you can

1619
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: keep it forever. So if you want to just use

1620
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: your own cloud, you can make it free forever. And

1621
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 1: I really like that because you always have a backup

1622
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 1: of your stuff because it's always on your system. But

1623
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 1: I did recently start using Craft, which is much more beautiful,

1624
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: I think, than Obsidian, and it kind of works for

1625
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: my workflow a little bit better than Obsidian. The problem

1626
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 1: with getting into a program like Craft, even though I

1627
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 1: love it, is that the more you use it, the

1628
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 1: more you're getting into it, the more you're gonna have

1629
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 1: to pay that yearly fee every single year forever. And

1630
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: that's one hundred dollars today, which means just going to

1631
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 1: keep going up over time. Obsidian could be free forever potentially.

1632
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: Let's see what else smartphones people like the Sunbeam F

1633
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: one flip phone. If you want just a simple flip phone,

1634
01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 1: the Sunbeam Flip F one flip Let's see if I

1635
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 1: seen that phone. Yep, Oh that's a that's a great

1636
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 1: little phone. If you just want a simple phone. How

1637
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: much is it? Let's see how much that is? Uh

1638
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: F one phone is two hundred and fifty bucks if

1639
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 1: you just want a simple flip phone. And then when

1640
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: it comes to ditching Kindle Cobo, which I've tested, they're excellent.

1641
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: That's a great alternative, much more open, much easier to

1642
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: get your stuff on there, although Kindle's made it a

1643
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 1: lot easier in recent months. And then an app like

1644
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 1: story Graph to track your reading anyway, that's all on

1645
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 1: the installer. That's from The Verge, so check it out.

1646
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: If you're not subscribed to their newsletter, that's a great one.

1647
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: All right, I'll link that up on my website, rich

1648
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: on tech dot TV. I mean, you could really get

1649
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 1: private if you wanted to. It's just all of the

1650
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: big tech services are so much easier and require a

1651
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 1: little bit less tinkering. That's why people default to them.

1652
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: And of course we hear those names over and over.

1653
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 1: But if you want to, if you want less tech,

1654
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 1: big tech in your life, you can definitely still have

1655
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 1: a pretty good experience using these other products. Eight to

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01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: eight rich one oh one, rich on tech dot TV.

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01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: Back after this, Welcome back to rich on tech rich

1658
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: DeMuro here hanging out with you, Talking technology eighty eight

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01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: rich one oh one eighty eight seven four to two,

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01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: four to one zero one the website, rich on tech

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01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 1: dot TV. If you want to send me an email,

1662
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 1: just hit contact that will make its way directly to

1663
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: my screen. And uh, you love sending emails. I've got

1664
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,719
Speaker 1: a lot of emails every week that I go through

1665
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 1: and I do right back to a lot of them,

1666
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 1: and I try to mention, you know, I always run

1667
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: the problem, not the problem, but the issue I run

1668
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: into with this show is there's just so much content.

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01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 1: Right You've got the live calls, you've got the emails,

1670
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 1: you've got the messages on social media, then you've got

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01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: the news of the week, and then you've got the guests.

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01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,719
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to pack all of that into one show.

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01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm surfing between all three of those

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01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 1: four or five of those things all the time, Like

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01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 1: it's a juggling act. It's like do I do more

1676
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: news or do I t take more calls or do

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01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: I do more emails? So I want to have you know,

1678
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 1: I kind of just do as much as I can

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01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 1: with everything. And that's really, uh, you know, my guiding

1680
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: factor here. With that said, let's go to Sam in Covina.

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01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 1: Line to Sam, you're on with Rich.

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01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 3: Yes, I have an Apple system in my home, several computers,

1683
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 3: and my main computer is an iMac and I use

1684
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 3: a time capsule or I have used a time capsule

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01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 3: from half all to back up my iMac. It was

1686
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 3: hardwired to my iMac. But I understand now that Apple

1687
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 3: is not going to be supporting a system of time

1688
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 3: capsule more time machine, and they're recommending that I no

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01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 3: longer use that. So I'm wondering what I will how

1690
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 3: how replace that? Can I just replace the target of

1691
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 3: the time capsule or the time gene.

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01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 1: Okay, so you said the magic words time machine. That

1693
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: is what you can now use to back up your Mac.

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01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 1: It is built into the to the computer. And so

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01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 1: you would basically just connect a USB drive like any

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01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,560
Speaker 1: any external drive to your computer. Make sure it's formatted,

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01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 1: and the first time you put that in there, it

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01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 1: will pop up and say, hey, do you want to

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01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 1: use this as your time machine backup? And once you

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01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 1: do that, it will anytime you plug in that drive,

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01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 1: it will back up that computer. You don't need to

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01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: keep it plugged in all the time, but you know,

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01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: once a week, once a month, whatever you want, you

1704
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 1: can back up that computer to that drive. Would that

1705
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: work for you? How often are you backing up? And

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01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: how many computers you're backing up?

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01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 3: Well, let's see two laptops and one iMac.

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01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 1: Okay, So in that case, you could switch to a

1709
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 1: have you heard of like a NASS a network attached server?

1710
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 3: Yes, I've heard of them.

1711
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 1: Okay, So I mean you could you could switch to

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01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 1: one of those and use that because you're backing up

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01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 1: three different computers. I mean, there's there's so many ways

1714
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 1: of doing this. I mean you could you know, you

1715
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: can use an online service like an eye drive to

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01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 1: back up. I mean, there's there's just a million and

1717
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 1: one ways of doing this. It just depends what what

1718
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 1: is easiest and what's best for you. So if you

1719
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 1: want the simplest, cheapest solution, I think time Machine is

1720
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 1: going to be the easiest. You plug in the drive,

1721
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 1: it backs up, and it's done, and you move on

1722
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 1: to the next thing. If you want the simplest without

1723
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 1: thinking at all, then you can just back up to

1724
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: an online service like i edrive or you know, Carbonite.

1725
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 1: There's some other brands out there that can do this,

1726
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 1: and so you can use that. I think back Blaze

1727
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: another one. Let me see if they are still still there.

1728
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 1: Back Blaze is another one that you can use. And

1729
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: then the other way to do it is to just

1730
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 1: get one of these Snology or q nap. They will

1731
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 1: sit in your house. It's basically a hard drive that's

1732
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 1: connected to the internet and your network and you can

1733
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,719
Speaker 1: use that as your backup as well. And they basically

1734
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: have their own software that will that will back up

1735
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 1: your devices. So three different methods for doing it. There

1736
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 1: is some other software if you want to kind of

1737
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 1: DIY this called free file Sync and This is open

1738
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: source software that pretty much will create backups of all

1739
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 1: of your important files. But what they do is they

1740
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: just kind of it's almost like time Machine, where it

1741
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 1: just does incremental updates. So anything that changes it will

1742
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 1: update on the drive. And so that's another way of

1743
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 1: doing it. So I will put all of this which

1744
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 1: on tech dot TV.

1745
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:52,560
Speaker 3: Time Machine is not time Machine is not being discontinued.

1746
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:54,759
Speaker 3: It's still being used.

1747
01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 1: Yea, as far as I know, I've not heard anything

1748
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 1: about time Machine being continued.

1749
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 6: No.

1750
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 1: Now, the time capsule that you have, the time Capsule maybe,

1751
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 1: and I have not heard about the time capsule for Mac. Yeah,

1752
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 1: that was discontinued in twenty eighteen, so that's probably what

1753
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 1: you're talking about. The Time Capsule is a different device,

1754
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:22,639
Speaker 1: and that was something I'm guessing that let's see here. Yeah,

1755
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 1: so it looks like support is just recently ended for that.

1756
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 1: So that's what's happening. That's that's that's completely different than

1757
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 1: time Machine. All right, I'll put all this on the website.

1758
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 1: Rich on tech dot tv a little confusing, I get

1759
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 1: it because they kind of share a similar name. But

1760
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, please back up your computer.

1761
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 1: Please back up your phone. Please back up anything that

1762
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 1: is important to you. And this doesn't mean that you

1763
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: have to have a complicated se Both Windows and Mac

1764
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 1: have easy backups built into their operating system that you

1765
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,680
Speaker 1: can use. You plug in a hard drive, do it

1766
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: once a month. Even if you did it once a month,

1767
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:13,959
Speaker 1: that's better than not having it all. For me personally,

1768
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 1: I have all of my important stuff in the cloud,

1769
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 1: and I think that obviously, even if you had it

1770
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 1: in the cloud, you should still have a backup somewhere else.

1771
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 1: Because of the cloud, you know, you never know, But

1772
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,719
Speaker 1: just back up your stuff. I guess so many people

1773
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: that say, Rich, I lost my photos, I lost my documents.

1774
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: How do I get them back? I can't get into

1775
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 1: my iPad, I can't get into any computer. It's really tough.

1776
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 1: Unless you have a backup. You get hit by malware

1777
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 1: or something ransomware. If you have a backup, it doesn't matter.

1778
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 1: So back back, back, back, back it up. All right.

1779
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:45,679
Speaker 1: Coming up, we are gonna talk about Oh my gosh,

1780
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 1: we got a lot more coming up. We're gonna talk

1781
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: about open clock. Coming up next. Welcome back to Rich

1782
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 1: on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking

1783
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 1: technology The website for the show is rich on tech

1784
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 1: dot tv U. Now is ethical hacker Dave Chronister of

1785
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:07,600
Speaker 1: Parameter Security. He's here to talk about personal AI assistance.

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01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Dave.

1787
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 7: Thanks for having me on.

1788
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely. So there's been a lot of talk about this

1789
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 1: new thing called open Claw. I believe it had a

1790
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 1: different name when it first started, but then they have

1791
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 1: to change it, right, that is that the one? Yeah,

1792
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 1: so they say settled on open claw. So this is

1793
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 1: a personal AI assistant. So this is getting into the

1794
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 1: world of like you can program, well, it just tell

1795
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 1: me the story, like what is this thing?

1796
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, So most people are familiar with your traditional generative

1797
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 7: AI or chatbots, where it's typically you're typing something in

1798
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 7: and then it's going to give you either text or

1799
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 7: some sort of generation of images. So the assistants are

1800
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 7: more what's called aegentic AI, and the idea beings that

1801
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 7: they can theoretically complete small task and work with minimal

1802
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 7: user input. So essentially it should be able to check

1803
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 7: your email, maybe turn on your Spotify in the morning,

1804
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 7: skip a song you don't like, different things like that.

1805
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 1: And this relies on what people are installing this on,

1806
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: like a computer, right.

1807
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, So this version open Claw you can either do

1808
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:34,680
Speaker 7: online and you can purchase tokens to run it, or

1809
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:36,759
Speaker 7: you can run it on your personal system.

1810
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:39,600
Speaker 1: Okay, And so I've heard there's like a run on

1811
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 1: like Mac Mini's because people are you know, installing this

1812
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 1: on their system and they're just and they've they've done

1813
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 1: all kinds of things to basically turn this little open

1814
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:51,680
Speaker 1: Claw into, like you said, a personal system that like

1815
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 1: can pretty much do anything because it has full access

1816
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:54,759
Speaker 1: to a computer.

1817
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1818
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know.

1819
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 7: It can try to do everything. I think there's an

1820
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 7: argument on how successful gen Takai is these days, but

1821
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:11,639
Speaker 7: the key being it has access to everything on your

1822
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 7: computer and any account that you give it access to.

1823
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 1: So I don't have experience with the open clocks. I

1824
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: have not installed it on a computer, but I do

1825
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,839
Speaker 1: have the chat Gybt at Liss installed on my computer.

1826
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 1: And in a way, you know, they've built into these

1827
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: browsers and actually Gemini as well, into Chrome where it

1828
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 1: can take over your browser and do things. So the

1829
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,640
Speaker 1: other day I was, you know, just testing out some

1830
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 1: of this stuff, and you can watch like chat gybt

1831
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 1: take control of your mouse on the browser and like

1832
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,640
Speaker 1: move around on the web page and do stuff, and

1833
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 1: so that's like one kind of like simple scenario. But

1834
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 1: it was interesting because when I went to change something

1835
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 1: on a Google account, it was like, hold on, this

1836
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 1: is actually an account page, Like we don't you know,

1837
01:33:57,920 --> 01:33:59,560
Speaker 1: like we're not really giving access to that. So I

1838
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 1: thought that was pretty interesting. But you can override that,

1839
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 1: of course. So what do you think is kind of

1840
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 1: like the purpose of all this, Like where do you

1841
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 1: think this is going?

1842
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 7: You know, I'll be honest, I am. I am very

1843
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 7: negative when it comes to a Gentikai. I mean, I

1844
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 7: think there's a couple of problems. Where it's supposed to

1845
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 7: be going. Is it's supposed to be the next level assistant. Unfortunately,

1846
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 7: I've been in technology for thirty years and we've been

1847
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 7: promised that every six months, right, the next six months

1848
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 7: will have an assistant, the password will go away, all

1849
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 7: of that. I think, what the passport hasn't gone away yet?

1850
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 7: What do you mean you're not using pass keys for

1851
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 7: everything exactly? But I think what this is is this

1852
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 7: is a very cool demo of what can happen. This

1853
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 7: is also a complete security nightmare when you start to

1854
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:59,759
Speaker 7: look at it. Essentially we call that the prefecta of security issues.

1855
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 7: Take a open claw for example. It is on the

1856
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 7: website itself. It says you will give it full access

1857
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 7: to your system, and then we're going to give it

1858
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 7: full access to all of our accounts, to our bank account,

1859
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 7: to our email, and then we're going to run scripts

1860
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 7: that strangers have created and you.

1861
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 1: Know, could go wrong.

1862
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, what what can absolutely go wrong? Oh by

1863
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 7: the way, it's on you to actually fix it. You know,

1864
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 7: I I like I like CHEPT, I have ADHD. It

1865
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 7: helps me get passed, especially if I'm having to write

1866
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 7: get past a few things. Unfortunately, I think the problem

1867
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 7: we're running into with all of this is it is

1868
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 7: not a perfect or even a accurate type of technology

1869
01:35:54,200 --> 01:36:01,679
Speaker 7: right now. I think last December there was hallucination charts

1870
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 7: on which which llms hallucinate the lesson that is say

1871
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 7: incorrect information that that you know, you may say what's

1872
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,600
Speaker 7: the sky and it goes it's red, that's the hallucination.

1873
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 7: The best was Rock four and it was fifteen percent

1874
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:21,680
Speaker 7: of the time it was hallucinating. So I think one

1875
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 7: of the problems we start to run into, you know,

1876
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 7: Rach like you said, you start to look at these

1877
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 7: you know, this is kind of neat, but if it's

1878
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:30,799
Speaker 7: trying to do your job, if it's trying to schedule

1879
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 7: things for you and there's inaccuracies or you're giving access

1880
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:38,479
Speaker 7: to someone else, that could become a major issue for you.

1881
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 1: And even if it's inaccurate just a little bit of

1882
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 1: the time. I mean, we know that people are using

1883
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 1: open ai, chatchybt Claude Gemini for to answer everything these days.

1884
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 1: I mean literally, I don't think if you have a

1885
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 1: medical situation, I don't think there's a person that's not

1886
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 1: asking chatchybt about it at this point. Like it used

1887
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 1: to be you know, web md. Now it's chatchabt. And

1888
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 1: the problem is even if it's getting things a little

1889
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 1: bit wrong. And I use it every single day. I

1890
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 1: use chatchabt all day, every day, and there are so

1891
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 1: many times when it just completely makes stuff up and

1892
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 1: you ask it, you say, hey, did you just make

1893
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 1: that up? It's like yeah, I probably should enough, it's like, well,

1894
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 1: why did you do that in the first place. It

1895
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 1: just but it just that's the way these things are programmed.

1896
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:20,879
Speaker 1: They just they can't help themselves at this point, right.

1897
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:23,800
Speaker 7: Open AI actually did a study a couple of years ago,

1898
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 7: and what they found is the confidence level of the

1899
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 7: responses increase when it's wrong, and that gets a little crazy. Yeah,

1900
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:34,719
Speaker 7: I use it too, you know. In fact, to prep

1901
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:37,599
Speaker 7: for a meeting with you, I put all my show

1902
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 7: notes in and put it in chat GBT, and right

1903
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 7: before I came on the air, I looked at it.

1904
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 7: I went, Wow, it just changed a bunch of things

1905
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 7: in there. But it is helpful with human oversight. I

1906
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 7: think the problem with a gig ai is it's designed

1907
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 7: to get rid of that human oversite. And I think

1908
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 7: right now where you know it would be like, hey,

1909
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 7: let's take your major functions of your organization or your

1910
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,640
Speaker 7: household and have your eight year old to it or

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Speaker 7: have an intern to it. They may be able to

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Speaker 7: do some of it, but you may have some bad

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Speaker 7: problems afterwards.

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Speaker 1: So back to this kind of open claw AI that

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Speaker 1: you kind of install on a computer and it can

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Speaker 1: do all kinds of things, and people like it because

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Speaker 1: you can chat with it, like it's almost like your

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Speaker 1: little chat assistant. But it can control your browser, it

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Speaker 1: can fill forms, extract data from any file. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: full system access, read and write files, run shell commands,

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Speaker 1: execute scripts, full access or sandboxed, and then it works

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Speaker 1: with all these programs WhatsApp, Telegram, Discord, Slack, Signal, I Message,

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Speaker 1: claud Gethub, Gmail, Browser, x Obsidian, qu Spotify, Chat, GBT

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Speaker 1: fifty plus integration. So I understand why people are tinkering

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Speaker 1: with this and testing it out, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. It's kind of like back in the day

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Speaker 1: when you just like had an idea for something like,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't it be cool if I can have my call?

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Speaker 1: You know, it reminds you of that back to the future,

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Speaker 1: right like in the beginning scene where it puts the

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Speaker 1: dog food, it opens up the can, it puts that,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the stuff that it does, and you know,

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Speaker 1: makes the breakfast, the alarm goes off. That's kind of

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Speaker 1: what people are doing here, but in a completely like

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Speaker 1: we don't even know what the implications are of this way.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know, I think at the end of

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Speaker 7: the day, the problem is is you can go, hey,

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Speaker 7: this was great. I put it on my system, I

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01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 7: tried it out, I connected a few things, and I

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Speaker 7: might just leave it here. The problem is is you've

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01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:38,560
Speaker 7: already given this application access through oh off through APIs

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Speaker 7: different access to your different accounts that don't necessarily turn

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Speaker 7: off right away. There's a there's a colleague and other

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Speaker 7: security researcher that has stated, if you've installed it on

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Speaker 7: your local machine previously, you need to consider a security

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Speaker 7: incident because you may have already installed some sort of

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Speaker 7: malicious plugin. Because, by the way, if they don't have

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Speaker 7: the integration now, there's a library where people can upload skills,

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Speaker 7: and a lot of those skills, I think the last

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Speaker 7: thing scene is up to twenty percent has malicious code

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Speaker 7: in it to gain access to your system, to steal

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Speaker 7: cryptocurrency tokens, to grab pass and things like that. And

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Speaker 7: that's a wild on their website, those that quotes on

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Speaker 7: their website.

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Speaker 1: So be careful. That's the bottom line. We're gonna leave

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Speaker 1: it there. Ethical hacker. Dave Kronisterer, founder of Parameter Security,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining me today. Thanks, rich have

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Speaker 1: a good one.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 1: I'll put a link to Dave's stuff on my website.

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Speaker 1: Rich On tech dot tv U coming up, we are

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Speaker 1: going to open up the feedback to see what you

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Speaker 1: were saying to me this week. That's coming up right

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Speaker 1: here on rich On Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technolog ge.

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Speaker 1: It is that time of the show where we open

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Speaker 1: up the feedbag. Feedbag is a combination of feedback and

1968
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:10,720
Speaker 1: mail bag. See where I'm going there. It's all the

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01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 1: stuff that you email me throughout the week. So let's

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Speaker 1: start with John. He says, I heard your segment about

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Speaker 1: the couple where the husband got hearing aids and now

1972
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 1: turns the TV down too low for his wife. The

1973
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Speaker 1: fix is simple, set the TV where the wife is comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Then the husband can lower the volume on his hearing aids.

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Speaker 1: No need for special headphones. I've worn hearing aids for years,

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Speaker 1: and three different audiologists have told me that more men

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Speaker 1: tend to need them, but plenty of women do too.

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Speaker 1: Some just choose not to wear them, even though most

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01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 1: styles are barely noticeable. Good point, John, That's one way

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Speaker 1: of tackling it. I guess. Thanks for that email. Candace

1981
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 1: writes in I use your tip about getting an ach

1982
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 1: routing and account number through Venmo to receive my eight

1983
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:59,559
Speaker 1: dollars settlement from the Lopez versus Apple class action. It

1984
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 1: worked perfectly on me for my one device claim. I

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Speaker 1: also appreciate that you're a cross platform user and keep

1986
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 1: those of us on Android in the mind. Love the

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Speaker 1: podcast and the newsletter. Thanks so much. Yes, if you

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Speaker 1: missed it, quick recap. I mentioned in my newsletter those

1989
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Speaker 1: series settlement checks for going out, but they wanted you

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Speaker 1: to hand over your bank account information to get the money.

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Speaker 1: Ah ah, I'm not doing that. So you can actually

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Speaker 1: find ach numbers like you're routing, and account numbers in Venmo,

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Speaker 1: cash app and PayPal they all have them, and so

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Speaker 1: you put those numbers into the settlement and lo and behold,

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01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,639
Speaker 1: your money will be there without giving out your account

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01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 1: numbers or your real bank account numbers. This is kind

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01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:42,799
Speaker 1: of like a stopgap. So I did mine with Venmo,

1998
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Speaker 1: and my forty dollars arrived a couple days later. It

1999
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 1: was perfect. Anett says, I need the Etsy customer service

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01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 1: toll free number as soon as possible. I love your

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01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 1: show and I appreciate the help and advice you give,

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Speaker 1: wishing you continued success, health and happiness. Well, thank you, Annette,

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Speaker 1: but do not do not just google for phone numbers.

2004
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you emailed me about this because this

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01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 1: is a great reminder. A lot of big companies, including Etsy,

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01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 1: do not have a toll free support number. They only

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01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 1: offer help online through their official website. So if you

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Speaker 1: search for a customer service number and you know, just

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01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: call one of those top results, there is a good

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Speaker 1: chance that could be a scam. They're fake customer support

2011
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:27,160
Speaker 1: numbers and they are everywhere. Be careful. The best thing

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01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:29,759
Speaker 1: to do is to go directly to the company's website

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01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:31,880
Speaker 1: and if they have a phone number, it will be

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Speaker 1: listed somewhere. Look down at the bottom where it says

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01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 1: help or support. If they don't, that means that it's

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Speaker 1: not something that's tough to find. It's I mean, it

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01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 1: may be tough to find, but it's something that they

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01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 1: just don't offer and you have to email them or

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Speaker 1: do something manually. Let's see here, where else do we have?

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Speaker 1: Donna writes in listening to the podcast, Hey Rich, longtime

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Speaker 1: Jersey girl.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 1: I just heard a few seconds of the song intro

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Speaker 1: from your dad's playlist. Oh this was last week, and

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01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:03,800
Speaker 1: immediately knew it was Vanilla Fudge. Definitely familiar to people

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Speaker 1: of a certain generation. Great playlist. Love the show. I

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Speaker 1: always learned something useful. I don't think I recognized half

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Speaker 1: the songs on my dad's playlist last week. I didn't

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Speaker 1: really understand that a lot of those before my time.

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Speaker 1: Marty and Fullerton listens live and on the podcast, he says, Hey, Rich,

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01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:23,599
Speaker 1: I tried your tip about teaching chat gbt what kinds

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Speaker 1: of wines my girlfriend Julie and I like. We went

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Speaker 1: out to dinner. I snapped a photo of the wine

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Speaker 1: list and asked chat ebt for help picking a bottle,

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Speaker 1: and it nailed it. We've got a new favorite wine.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the tip. I listen live and on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: You are dumb man, da dumb man. Love it, Marty.

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01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 1: I'm glad you found my I wonder what your girlfriend

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Speaker 1: thought of my tip because it's such a funny. It's

2041
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 1: such a funny solution right to use chatch ebt, but

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Speaker 1: it works. And basically, if you want to try this,

2043
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 1: you just build a project or you can just tell

2044
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 1: chatch ebt here's the wines I like. Remember this and

2045
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 1: it will then when you ask it, you know, hey,

2046
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 1: suggest a wine from this wine list, it will tell

2047
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:02,559
Speaker 1: you a whine on that list that is similar to

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01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,800
Speaker 1: what you like. Now, it doesn't always get it right. Yes,

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01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:06,880
Speaker 1: we know they make a lot of broad generalizations, but

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01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:09,880
Speaker 1: I find that is almost perfect. And the cool thing

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01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 1: is whin. I don't know if you notice a restaurants

2052
01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 1: has gotten really expensive, so you can say like tell

2053
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 1: me my best bang for the buck or something like that,

2054
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 1: and it's a nice way to you know, you might

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01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 1: even save some money. Let's see what else here, Jack

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Speaker 1: and Michigan. I heard you mentioned in your newsletter that

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01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:27,639
Speaker 1: you ask CarPlay for directions and it surprised you by

2058
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 1: opening Google Maps instead of Apple Maps. I use Apple

2059
01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 1: CarPlay all the time and stick with Ways, and there's

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01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 1: an easy way around that. I just ask Siri for

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Speaker 1: directions to my destination using Ways and it works perfectly.

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Speaker 1: Siri finds the place and it shows up right on

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Speaker 1: my Way's map. I've used Ways for years and I

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01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 1: feel really comfortable with it. It's nice being able to

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01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 1: it's nice being able to be specific and get exactly

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Speaker 1: the app I want without touching the screen. I figure

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Speaker 1: this might help your listeners. And thanks for all the podcasts,

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Speaker 1: radio and everything else. I listen all the time. Well,

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01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 1: thank you Jack for listening all the time. Now my

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Speaker 1: phone is listening because I said Siri got a lot

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Speaker 1: of love for the newsletter, Neil and Ohio. Hey Rich,

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01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:11,719
Speaker 1: I've been really enjoying your newsletter. This issue. This week

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01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:15,559
Speaker 1: was especially packed with interesting and useful information. I'm always

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01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 1: looking forward to the next one. Thanks for what you

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Speaker 1: do and sharing all of this with the world. Ah well,

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Speaker 1: I am happy to share it with the world. Georgia

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Speaker 1: and Santa Monica. Hey Rich, on your show, you talk

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Speaker 1: about which jobs might be safe from AI. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to add a few that people often overlook. Physical therapists

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Speaker 1: and PT assistants, occupational therapists and OT assistants, and speech therapists.

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01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 1: I've been a speech therapist for many years. I can

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Speaker 1: almost guarantee AI will not be taking these jobs anytime soon.

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01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:45,719
Speaker 1: There's just too much hands on evaluation, judgment, constant personal

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Speaker 1: interaction with patients, families, and medical terms. These careers are

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Speaker 1: also incredibly flexible. You can work with infants, kids, or adults.

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Speaker 1: You can work in clinics, hospitals, rehab schools, or even

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Speaker 1: patient homes. Therapists are always in demand, there's never enough applicants,

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Speaker 1: and you can set your own hour and shoes where

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Speaker 1: you want to live. A lot of people don't realize

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Speaker 1: how interesting this work is. You're in a medical setting

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Speaker 1: seeing every diagnosis you can imagine with patients up to

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Speaker 1: age one hundred. If your kids don't go into tech,

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Speaker 1: this could really be a rewarding path. My wife is

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Speaker 1: a therapist in that line of work, and so I

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01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 1: understand this, and I think that is a great thing. I,

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01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 1: if you can believe it, had a speech therapist for

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Speaker 1: many years when I was younger. If you heard the

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Speaker 1: way I spoke, it was really bad. My son also

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Speaker 1: had a speech therapist for many years, so believe me.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate the work that these folks do, and

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Speaker 1: it is life changing for people. I mean, I'm able

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Speaker 1: to speak on a national radio show because of it.

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Speaker 1: Joe and Bloomington, Indiana. Hey, Rich, quick follow up on

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Speaker 1: your point about using zip codes to check home Internet

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Speaker 1: zip codes are fine, but the FCC's National Broadband Map

2106
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 1: is a much better tool. If you want accurate address

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Speaker 1: level info. Instead of showing the whole area, lets you

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01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:55,919
Speaker 1: plug in a specific address. The data is self reported,

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01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:59,240
Speaker 1: so it's not guaranteed, but it's more precise. When you

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Speaker 1: look up an address, you can see all the providers

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Speaker 1: that service that home and you can see the map

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Speaker 1: at broadbandmap dot FCC dot gov. Yes, this is a

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Speaker 1: great thing to bookmark. Do it right now broadbandmap dot

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Speaker 1: FCC dot gov and see which providers are at your home.

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01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:17,719
Speaker 1: You might be surprised to find out there's some providers

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01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:19,760
Speaker 1: that you didn't realize service your house, and they might

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Speaker 1: be cheaper than what she got. All right, if you

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Speaker 1: can believe it, that is going to do it. For

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Speaker 1: this episode of the show. You can find links to

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Speaker 1: everything I mentioned on the website. Just go to the website.

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Speaker 1: It is do you know it richon tech dot tv.

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Speaker 1: This is episode one sixty one. If you want to

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Speaker 1: submit for the feedback, just hit contact. You can do that.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on social media. I am at

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Speaker 1: Rich on tech. If you're not following me on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: what are you waiting for? I post so much good

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Speaker 1: stuff on there, especially scams and things that you send me.

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Speaker 1: By the way, next week, we've got cybersecurity expert JP Castelinos.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna explain the biggest tech threats hitting consumers right

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Speaker 1: now and how to stay protected. Thanks so much for this.

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Speaker 1: There are so many ways you can spend your time.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you spending it right here with me.

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Speaker 1: One reminder before I go, do not drive distracted. Those

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Speaker 1: texts can wait. Thanks to everyone who makes this show possible,

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Speaker 1: Bobo Kim, My name is rich Demiro. I will talk

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Speaker 1: to you real soon