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Speaker 2: Cowboys. This is nick.

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Speaker 1: Shot, streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com and the official

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Heck ma Harrison,

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Speaker 1: Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Cowboy Nation, and welcome to the taj Mahall

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Speaker 3: of football. We are here in the SWBC Mortgage studios,

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Speaker 3: here at the Star in Frisco, home of your Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: You are now rocking with the best. I'm Heck Maharrison

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Speaker 3: alongside the neighborhood hero and Super Bowl champion Everson Walls.

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Speaker 3: And across from me is mister Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 4: And then yes, right, interesting, Oh what out of.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know what?

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Speaker 4: Evers?

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Speaker 2: Why do you listening it?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, man, come on, man, you was one of

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Speaker 3: the first I'm talking about talking about the local dude

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Speaker 3: that did good from right around here, I mean right

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Speaker 3: round the coner. Yeah, come on, the neighborhood hero Everson Walls. Man,

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Speaker 3: I had it right the first time, man, But sure, hey,

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Speaker 3: and gods like I do every Thursday anytime I get

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Speaker 3: an opportunity to host the show. I'm checking in mentally

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Speaker 3: on you guys. Mickey, I'll start with you this time.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm great?

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 5: I should use my microphone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what we do.

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Speaker 2: That's better. All right, you're great?

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Speaker 5: Still great?

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Speaker 4: All right? Everson, how about yourself?

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Speaker 2: Brother?

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Speaker 3: I am blessed, blessed in Holly, favored, highly favorite. I

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Speaker 3: get it, man, that is that is awesome. So we

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Speaker 3: will start with the book. Mickey is doodling over there

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Speaker 3: and in his notebook. But tell me what's new around

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Speaker 3: this defense. We were just listening to the defensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: speak just a few seconds ago.

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Speaker 4: I believed that was Eba Flu. It was okay, And

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Speaker 4: so what's.

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Speaker 3: Going on around the organization the locker room and with

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Speaker 3: this defense?

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Speaker 5: Flu said, they're all accepting accountability for that, So there

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Speaker 5: we go.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know that he had any meat and

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Speaker 5: potatoes here for us.

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Speaker 4: He talked about.

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Speaker 5: Having Schottenheimer in the defensive meeting rooms. You get a

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Speaker 5: chance to hear what offensive people think about what you're

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Speaker 5: doing defensively, said. He did that in Chicago, he said,

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Speaker 5: in the meetings. He also pointed out that over his

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Speaker 5: years he would call in the quarterbacks and see what

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Speaker 5: the quarterbacks were seeing on how to attack. They would

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Speaker 5: attack what they were doing defensively. So he mentioned Romo.

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Speaker 5: I think he mentioned Philip Rivers and whoever you know

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Speaker 5: playing quarterback at Chicago that might have known what they

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, really, it seems like every group should do that, right.

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Speaker 6: I have the wide receivers just once receive or coach,

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Speaker 6: just say a position coach and just talk about, Okay,

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Speaker 6: this is how I would attack you guys, so be

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Speaker 6: prepared for this, you know, and especially with these young guys.

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Speaker 6: Now it might click with some of them, because you know,

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Speaker 6: with young people, when you keep talking about inexperience, sometimes

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Speaker 6: something has to click.

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Speaker 2: Nothing's clicking.

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Speaker 6: Yet they haven't made a connection to what that defensive

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Speaker 5: So did they like, tell Tony Hill, Tony Hill, okay,

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Speaker 5: now go up against Everson and tell him. Now, if

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Speaker 5: I was playing against you, this is what I would

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Speaker 5: he I picked the wrong guy, right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Back up? That's even tell me, back up, man, get

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Speaker 2: off me. Do you think players do?

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Speaker 3: I mean in the off season, obviously you get more

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Speaker 3: coaches do with other players saying what you were just saying, Mickey,

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Speaker 3: this is what I would do versus you. And I

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Speaker 3: I think the one thing I was thinking like I'd

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Speaker 4: And it's a head coach. It's his job. But you're you're.

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Speaker 3: Coming in in on my meeting and feel like you're

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Speaker 4: But it's his job to make this team.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think he goes in there as the

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Speaker 2: Head coachultan I would think it's a consultant.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I always look back and I you know,

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Speaker 5: reference to when Jimmy Johnson got here. He was a

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Speaker 5: defensive coach. Right he couldn't fix the offense. Right now,

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Speaker 5: he can go in there and listen, but the offense

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Speaker 5: was in somebody else's hands. And if you look back

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Speaker 5: at those days, the Cowboys didn't fix their offense until

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Speaker 5: North Turner got here. He couldn't correct Dave Shula uh

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Speaker 5: Jimmy started drawing up offensive stuff on the cocktail napkins.

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Speaker 5: I think he was just trying to impress us that

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Speaker 5: he knew offense, not just defense. Right, but you're at

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Speaker 5: the mercy when you're not all total walkaround coach at

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Speaker 5: your four, your coordinators and the defensive guys not going

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Speaker 5: to fix the offense.

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Speaker 6: I think the only time I can relate to something

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Speaker 6: like that was when Michael Lovin first came to camp

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Speaker 6: picked that. And he was so meticulous about breaking down

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Speaker 6: think that's the only time I told him that he listened,

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Speaker 6: and you know, I don't know if anything changed necessarily,

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Speaker 5: I was going to say thank you very much.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he was welcome to that. So yeah, you know,

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Speaker 6: that's the only time I can think of it.

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Speaker 2: And it should be more of that. I mean, especially

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Speaker 6: Now, you need to have a coach that can reiterate

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Speaker 6: that you ain't listening to or don't quite get yet.

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Speaker 6: So if you have another guy come in, he may

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Speaker 6: explain it another way to where it can connect with myself.

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Speaker 6: There's always certain ways, words or techniques when someone explained something.

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Speaker 6: Like my father, he was extremely good. He is why

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Speaker 6: he was one of my best coaches. He was extremely

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Speaker 6: and it always resonated with me and I understood exactly

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Speaker 6: what he was talking about the way he delivered it.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes a delivery, a change in delivery, can help a

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Speaker 5: You know, McCarthy did that during the bye week. He

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Speaker 5: of Okay, this is what I see as as your opponent, right,

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Speaker 5: and I think that should.

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Speaker 2: Be to help got the help.

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Speaker 4: In corporate America, they call it cross training.

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Speaker 3: Okay, across the hall, across the hall, across trade.

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Speaker 4: You guys want to get it to these Arizona cart.

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Speaker 5: You said something about what was going on yes yesterday,

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Speaker 5: and this struck me. They go beginning of practice to

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Speaker 5: two guys that weren't were Marquise Bell and then Janier

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Speaker 5: he was a good sign he was going to participate, right,

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Speaker 5: But I'm sitting there going, well, that's a little thin.

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Speaker 2: Is that guy?

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Speaker 5: Well last week they did Corey Bellentine and who was

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Speaker 5: three and now he's out. No, I'm talking those safeties,

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Speaker 4: It was so you said, logical, I know it was.

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Speaker 5: So it was Bell Thomas, Valentine, Wood and Childress. His

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Speaker 5: Childress is back on the practice squad now and Childress

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Speaker 4: What about Malie Cooker, have we heard anything about it?

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Speaker 4: He still.

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Speaker 5: They I'm trying to remember if they said they started

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Speaker 5: two away. Donovan Wilson, they said he was trending in

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Speaker 5: he was in practicing. We'll see what happens today, because

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Speaker 5: yesterday was the extra practice right this Monday night. I

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Speaker 5: that was kind of an extra thing before they start

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Speaker 5: this afternoon's practice. So yeah, and it looks like Clark

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Speaker 5: give an injury report on him because he's on injured reserve.

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Speaker 5: But as Jerry pointed out earlier in the week, he

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Speaker 5: what he meant was physically better, not like conditioning better.

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Speaker 5: So what's going on there is he's having problems with

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Speaker 5: a little bit of problems close to what the second

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Speaker 5: surgery on his left knee was supposed to correct. So

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Speaker 5: more of a probably a hereditary degenerative.

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Speaker 2: Deal sometimes in the right knee.

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Speaker 6: The fact that this knee has always been giving you problems,

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Speaker 6: you over compensate on the other knee.

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Speaker 5: Right, and that could and so and contrary with doctor

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Speaker 5: Michael Parsons pointed out evidently about the Cowboys who forced

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Speaker 5: him back too soon. That no, they didn't force him

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Speaker 5: back too soon. He delayed his progress. And you've heard

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Speaker 5: pointing it out, but had he been here working out,

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 5: The other thing is that it probably eventually needs to

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Speaker 6: You know, use there's going to be someone who's making

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Speaker 6: The you can't be a defensive line to But come on, guys,

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Speaker 5: And and you're right that gives you the right to

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Speaker 2: Right, it's gotta be intimate.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but used to be something to where you know,

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Speaker 5: See and think about it. When we look at the

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Speaker 5: But you know, Charles Haley would say whatever rights no

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Speaker 2: Let's be real.

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Speaker 6: As much as Charles Haley would take over whenever that

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Speaker 5: You gotta play.

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Speaker 4: You gotta play consistently.

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Speaker 5: Well, we're about to find out. Yeah, right, because we

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Speaker 2: We are who we thought.

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Speaker 5: Well, here's why, because he leads the team with forty

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Speaker 2: You just ruined it. No, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: You said you didn't know anything about them, So I'm

444
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 3: trying to tell you about who they are. So they

445
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 3: had Jacobe Brissett as their quarterback and just bus driver,

446
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: think bus driver.

447
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: Right, Like I like Kobe, I like Kvie's.

448
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 4: A good player, smart dude, I Q very high.

449
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: But as far as the rushing yards, Colin Murray still

450
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 3: leads the team in rushing with one hundred and seventy

451
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Speaker 3: three yards. So seven games, that's what you got as

452
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 3: far as their production. But Trey McBride is a damn

453
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: good tight end.

454
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Speaker 6: But if you're going to talk about anything besides trade

455
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 6: McBride on Kenny block as well, Hell yes, once again,

456
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 6: you know, I don't want us coming in thinking about

457
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 6: how explosive this team is and they just go basic

458
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 6: on us and start running the ball on us. So

459
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 6: as that what running back are they looking at?

460
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: H is that? Is this the strict of the offense

461
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: has to be the running game?

462
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 6: Yes, because at this point you don't see the continuity

463
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 6: of playmakers on that team. You know, Mike, he's talking

464
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 6: about Marvin has his problems the tight end doing well. McBride,

465
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Speaker 6: But now you've got Kyler's out. How well is you

466
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 6: know Jacobe can't be doing that well?

467
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 4: Well, the biggest question is will Kyler be back for

468
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 4: this game?

469
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 2: Is that schedule for that I.

470
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 4: Thought he was supposed to.

471
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 5: Well, we won't see an injury report till today. Okay,

472
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 5: So on McBride, I just saw this. In Week ten

473
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 5: of twenty twenty three versus Atlanta, McBride caught eight passes

474
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Speaker 5: for one hundred and thirty one yards for his first

475
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Speaker 5: week Atlanta.

476
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: I saw that game.

477
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 5: It was his first one hundred yard outing. Now, how

478
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 5: sobering is this? The performance came thirty four years to

479
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 5: the days since the last one hundred yard outing by

480
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 5: a tight and rob a Wallow, and he did it

481
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 5: against the Cowboys in nineteen to eighty nine.

482
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 4: What are you doing?

483
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 5: You didn't cover the dark tight end?

484
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 6: I remember hollowing him out. And you know who else

485
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 6: that was? When A Walt was better than Jay Novicheck.

486
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 5: Well, they weren't even using No.

487
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: They weren't using Noviacheck at all.

488
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 5: And you remember the Cowboys then in playing b got

489
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 5: Novacheck and they ended up with a Walt, remember in

490
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 5: ninety and he got hurt.

491
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 6: I recall playing against those Phoenix partners, I think, and

492
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 6: Jay ended up he got a I was with the

493
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Speaker 6: Giants and he got a kickoff return and he hurdled

494
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Speaker 6: one of our safeties.

495
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Speaker 2: I mean just hurdled them. Really.

496
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Speaker 6: And then that's when I was like, man, who is

497
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 6: that white dude? Man, that big old tight end?

498
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: What's going on?

499
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 6: They said, yeah, man, he was a hurdler. And they

500
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 6: said he ran track. They said, oh, yeah you did.

501
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: That's you could just see it.

502
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Speaker 5: He was I think he was a catholon. Well, yeah,

503
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 5: you're talking about Novacheck.

504
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 2: Novicheck.

505
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 5: Yes, he was a former quarterback.

506
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 2: They wo was out with those two tight ends.

507
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 5: But how about this? So they got this list here

508
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 5: of tight ends in the Cardinals history with touchdown catches.

509
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 5: Number one Jackie Smith, of course, twenty two. Number two

510
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 5: Trey McBride.

511
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 4: With five.

512
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 2: Career.

513
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 4: Got to be lying career, It says Scott. Which city?

514
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 4: Who wasn't it Saint Louis?

515
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 5: It was, well, no, they were, they were in Chicago

516
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 5: to start St.

517
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: Louis. Maybe they started from so.

518
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 5: Jackie Smith nineteen sixty three through seventy seven.

519
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 6: They had a guy that had Cunningham if I'm not mistaken,

520
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 6: but they were all just big blockers.

521
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 5: So Novachek had two, a Walt had two, and Taz

522
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 5: Enderson Taz Anderson had one in nineteen sixty one through

523
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 5: sixty four, So tight ends weren't usually the Cardinals calling card.

524
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 6: Could you imagine that we played against the Cardinals all

525
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 6: that time and that's stat never came up. But that's

526
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 6: that that tight d the tight end now because I'm

527
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 6: pretty sure we had our safety wasting his damn time.

528
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 2: For god, they only have, you know, with nothing but

529
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: a big offensive tackle.

530
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 3: Well, the in present day we have Trade McBride, who

531
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: is all they have basically in the receiving room. And

532
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: we've seen that our safeties have struggled with tight ends.

533
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 3: How many tight ends have we seen they have come

534
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 3: through that had success against the Cowboys. And I'm just

535
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: asking your trust level going into this game with your

536
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 3: safeties at linebackers, maybe nullifying the effect of productivity from

537
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: Trey McBride.

538
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 6: I think what you look for are these complications. Uh,

539
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 6: if someone comes at us and just said we're going

540
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 6: to come at you simple and one on one, I

541
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 6: think the Cowboys have a better chance because they won't

542
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 6: be confused by any trickery, any change in the off

543
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 6: line scheme, no diagramed routes. Right, I could you know,

544
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 6: get someone wide open. They think he can be beat

545
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 6: you one on one.

546
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 5: Well, I think.

547
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 6: I'm trying to beat you with the with the simplicity,

548
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 6: and I think that gives us a better chance to

549
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 6: go up against him.

550
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 5: I think if all things were equal, you would use

551
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 5: Marquise Bell on the tight end. But where they're at

552
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 5: at the safety position, I don't know that you can

553
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 5: designate him at the line of scrimmage.

554
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: Right, how about putting two people on him?

555
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 5: Well, you put linebacker over there.

556
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: People, we got to put two people.

557
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 5: Now James probably can run with.

558
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 6: Him or running with him and covering him to Well,

559
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 6: if you can't run with him, then you can't cover.

560
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: You can if you can't track the ball, then you

561
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: can run with him all you.

562
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 5: Wire right, right, and you know, and then the rest

563
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 5: of the receiving corps, I mean Zay Jones. I don't

564
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 5: know if they picked him up last year or if

565
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 5: that was this year, but he's only he only has

566
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 5: like seventeen catches.

567
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: And which is odd for a guy that had production.

568
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: I believe in Jacksonville, right, we had talked about I

569
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: think when he was a free agent.

570
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 5: Don't you think they paid for him?

571
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: They did, they had to have. But it's I guess

572
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. When it comes down to Marvin

573
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: Harrison again, we're not even talking about him. It's production

574
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: and he should be a player that everyone should be saying,

575
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: player to watch in a game like that, irregardless of

576
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: who was playing. Jacobe rissaid our Kyler Murray. But it's

577
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 3: not the case.

578
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 6: Here's what you will see with an offense that's a

579
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 6: bit limited in personnel and I guess maybe talent as well.

580
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 6: You're going to see and we're going to see it

581
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 6: every week. The quick passing game, especially if you're trying

582
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 6: to go to McBride, you're going to get the ball

583
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 6: to him soon. We're not going to give the Cowboys

584
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 6: a chance with the blitz. We're going to try and

585
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 6: catch them while they're not looking dropping into those own

586
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 6: areas simple things that have been working for against us,

587
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 6: But for the most part, I hadn't been working against

588
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 6: us at home.

589
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 4: And that is the difference.

590
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: Here we go.

591
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 10: Do you feel better? Do you do you feel better?

592
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 10: This is a whole game only because it's a home game.

593
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 10: That's the only reason I feel better. I think we'll

594
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 10: have a lot more confidence. We just seem to have

595
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 10: a lot more complimentary football when we play at home.

596
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 10: And I should have mentioned it last week, like it

597
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 10: would make a difference because they're listening.

598
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 6: But we cannot put ourselves in the hole. As far

599
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 6: as penalties, we have to we don't have that luxury.

600
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 6: We're trying to. We're talking about going forward on fourth

601
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 6: and five, but with these damn penalties, we end up

602
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 6: at fourth and fifteen exactly, and so that takes we

603
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 6: take out We take a bullet out of our gun,

604
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 6: you know, and we need all the bullets we can get.

605
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: On paper, this looks like you have a struggling offense

606
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: in Arizona versus a struggling defense, and they have a

607
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: running back, and we also have to worry about that

608
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: that they're running game in Bam Knight. I believe in

609
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: the Green Bay game, only fifty seven yards on the ground,

610
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: so not very effective, and it was a running back

611
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: by committee approach. Brissette even had some rushing yards also,

612
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: so not very effective.

613
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 6: It's not like we are going up against the Carolina

614
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 6: team that had a history of running the ball the

615
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 6: way they did with Rico.

616
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. So, well, they lose Connor,

617
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: very surprised.

618
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 5: They lose Connor of their lead guy, and then Murray's

619
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 5: their leading rusher.

620
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 6: But see, I worry about their offensive line. Yeah, unnecessarily

621
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 6: the running bats. It's the offensive line that you you

622
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 6: have to be Maybe we got pushed around by Carolina's backups.

623
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: Remember one of those Yeah, yeah and so.

624
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 5: And everybody would say and they said it this after

625
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 5: this pass game. Javonte Williams didn't have a good game. No,

626
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 5: the offensive line didn't have a good game.

627
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: Right.

628
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 5: The running back can only go where they let them.

629
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,239
Speaker 3: But the weird thing about Arizona if you look at

630
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: the five losses that they have, they've been in some

631
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: close games through these seven games.

632
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 5: For seven games, well they've lost five straight. Yes, by one,

633
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 5: by three, by one, by four, and by four. Uh oh,

634
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 5: So you didn't want to hear that.

635
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 4: They have been in some close games.

636
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 3: And at halftime of the Packers game, they were leading

637
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: thirteen to six. So I mean they had the Packers

638
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: Mickey's Packers and a dog fight.

639
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:29,239
Speaker 5: Uh.

640
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 4: Last week in Arizona.

641
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: So, I mean, look as much as we say about

642
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 3: us struggling in their struggles, when you look at the

643
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: losses that they have, it isn't like they've been blown

644
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: out in.

645
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 4: Games like we have in some games.

646
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 5: Right, Well, they've only lost one more game than the Cowboys. Yea,

647
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 5: they just lost them five straight. Yeah, they didn't get

648
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 5: into the win one lose one, win, win, lose one,

649
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 5: tai one win one, lose one.

650
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 6: We're gonna we're gonna, I mean, we're going to have

651
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 6: to attack them, and I wouldn't say inexperience, but someone

652
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 6: who's just inexperience with this team. We're gonna have to

653
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 6: attack Jakobe in more ways than one.

654
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: Jacobe at this point, don't you feel like he's a

655
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: little bit of a I mean, he's a veteran, he's

656
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 3: a guy who's been around for a long time.

657
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 2: He's a Tyrod Taylor, you know what I'm saying.

658
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 6: He's one of those guys every time you look up,

659
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 6: he's backing somebody up.

660
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: But that's because of consistency.

661
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 6: And not consistently great or consistently bad, but just a

662
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 6: true manager of an offense. Until you guys, get your

663
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 6: man back. You know, when he comes back, hopefully he'll

664
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 6: be like Cooper, rush to where he can. You know,

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Speaker 11: notebook here.

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Speaker 5: First we talked about what little Matt Eberflus had to say,

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Speaker 5: and then we talked about how the listen.

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Speaker 11: For about five minutes, okay.

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Speaker 5: Then we talked about how they're having Schottenheimer interact with

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Speaker 5: the defense this week.

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Speaker 6: We talked safeties that should be done more. You have

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Speaker 6: offensive coaches coming to you, let them understand exactly what

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Speaker 6: we're looking at, depending on what kind of offense you're

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Speaker 6: running or what kind of defense might be more susceptible

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Speaker 6: to being being successful against an offense. We talked give

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Speaker 6: his own opinion.

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Speaker 11: We talked Clayton Adams is talking to him this week?

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Speaker 11: Clayton Adams history with Cardinals and familiar with the Cardinals

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Speaker 11: personnel on defense.

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Speaker 5: We talked Diggs, we talked leadership, and we talked to Arizona.

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Speaker 2: That's where we left off.

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Speaker 11: That's well, that's it. The whole shows me.

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Speaker 5: Well, how about this, Not only are the Cardinals coming,

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Speaker 5: they're bringing a plane full of faiths with them. They've

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Speaker 5: started a new deal. They've got an airplane Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 5: Football and they're starting Cardinals Premiere Travel and this is

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Speaker 5: the inaugural trip taking place for the Cardinals game here

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Speaker 5: to watch Monday Night football, where they're going to have

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Speaker 5: a world class travel experience to give fans the opportunity

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Speaker 5: to see the team play on the road. And they're

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Speaker 5: on the plane, they're going to have access to Patrick Peterson,

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Speaker 5: Tyron Matthew, Adrian Wilson, and Marcus Golden and sam Acho Nice.

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Speaker 5: So they're bringing their fans with them.

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Speaker 2: How many do they say? How many?

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Speaker 5: See if it says how many fans they're going to

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Speaker 5: be able to bring?

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 4: Do you take your take a plane full of fans

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Speaker 4: with you.

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Speaker 11: Wherever you go and it's in their state championship, Yeah,

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Speaker 11: that's what the and it's.

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Speaker 5: It's in the release. Right, they got a picture of

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Speaker 5: the plane Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: The charter bus is the coming baby, the charter playing.

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Speaker 11: They've lost five straight games, but total thirteen points, where.

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Speaker 2: We makes me nervous. That makes me nervous.

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Speaker 5: And one point loss is the four point loss and

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Speaker 5: three point.

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Speaker 11: Loss, and the last two teams they've played, Indianapolis and

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Speaker 11: Green Bay, happened to have the two best records in

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Speaker 11: the league. Yeah, that's that's one thing that Brian Schottenheimer

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Speaker 11: said off the top and basically asting what his message

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Speaker 11: to his team was, and he said, don't take these

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Speaker 11: guys lightly. And based on all of that, well, it

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Speaker 11: will take any team.

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Speaker 5: Like one of the other losses was to Seattle too

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Speaker 5: by three points.

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Speaker 11: One of the losses by one point to Tennessee.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well they had in the hand right, and.

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Speaker 11: Basically all of those they had a lead late and

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Speaker 11: blew the.

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Speaker 3: Lead, had a lead at half versus Green Bay, which,

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Speaker 3: like I said, this, this is a resilient bunch.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: We cannot take them lightly but offensively. As I've just

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Speaker 3: pointed out, Man, they have had their struggles. Jacobe Brissett

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Speaker 3: on the last couple of games, but also even before that,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 11: They've lost the run game they got, They've lost all

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Speaker 11: their running backs. Yet they're unlike they're.

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Speaker 5: Not just Connor. Who else did they live?

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Speaker 11: They've lost a lost Benson, Ben Connor. They won their

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Speaker 11: first two games and Connor was healthy and then they

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Speaker 11: lost They lost him on September nineteenth. Out for the year,

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Speaker 11: out for the year, Trey Benson. Who's the other running back?

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Speaker 11: A Mari de Marcado, that's I forgot this guy. Man,

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Speaker 11: who's the guy that fumbled on the goal line and

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Speaker 11: that's why they lost the Tennessee game. Okay, well he's out.

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Speaker 2: He's a good player though, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 11: Uh or he's missed. He missed the Green Bay game

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Speaker 11: and so he had an ankle and I've well, they

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Speaker 11: haven't had an injury report yet and they won't until

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Speaker 11: to day since it's Monday night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he's solid now, yeah, yeah, and.

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Speaker 11: So they're leading a rusher. Last week it was Zonovan

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Speaker 11: Bam Knight, who wasn't even on their roster.

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Speaker 5: Who, by the way, is listed as the starter on

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Speaker 5: their depth chart, followed by Amari de Mercado.

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Speaker 2: This all sounds like a setup. Yeah, it all sounds

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Speaker 2: like a set up.

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Speaker 3: Here we go this should I hate man when you

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Speaker 3: when your team, when your defense is no good.

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Speaker 4: It feels like every week is a setup every team.

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Speaker 3: And just said they lost five straight, five straight lost, they.

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Speaker 2: Lost, Look how they lost? Told what not? Even eighteen points?

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Speaker 2: Was it?

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Speaker 7: That?

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Speaker 2: We can come on?

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Speaker 5: So Arizona's sitting there and they're talking about, well, now,

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Speaker 5: don't take the Cowboys lightly because Denver beat them up.

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Speaker 5: You saw what they did to Washington the week before

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Speaker 5: and stayed at home, and it's at home.

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Speaker 3: A different team, completely different team at home, and you

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Speaker 3: know that.

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Speaker 2: But the Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: There are three and oh on Monday night here on

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Speaker 5: the road against the Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: Come on and we're undefeated. Uh in the dome? Is

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Speaker 6: that how it goes?

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Speaker 5: Who the Cowboys?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: This year just two oh and one yeah at the

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Speaker 11: tie and one against the second.

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Speaker 5: And Bill pointed out yesterday they're in a dome the

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Speaker 5: rest of the way. So if they win six more,

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Speaker 5: they'll have the same the Giants and washed with seven

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Speaker 5: more wins at home, they'll have the same record. Kyler

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Speaker 5: Murray has a a T T stadium.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, that'll make you put your tombs away right there, and.

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Speaker 5: They're they're expecting him to play, right, Yes, yes, they're

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Speaker 5: expecting him to play.

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Speaker 2: I think I think we can break him up a

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Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, I don't. I don't think he's quite ready.

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Speaker 11: Well, he's due, he's due to lose, right, That's.

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Speaker 5: Right, That's what Chottmer said. Uh yeah, pointed to down

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Speaker 5: he goes, yeah, then do to lose there listening there, Kyler, Now.

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Speaker 3: He has been exceptional at AT and T Stadium his

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Speaker 3: entire career, so I mean.

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Speaker 11: Even against Keller Central.

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Speaker 3: Against anybody in there.

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Speaker 11: Literally in the Arizona Cardinals media guy, they've got a

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Speaker 11: full page devoted to Kyler Murray. Okay, this is where

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Speaker 11: the Cowboys stand in the eyes of the car and

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Speaker 11: why they've chartered a plane to bring fans here. It's

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Speaker 11: Kyler Murray's record at AT and T Stadium that takes

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Speaker 11: up a full page in their media guys relate and

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Speaker 11: they're right here. Okay.

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Speaker 5: They documented every game and.

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Speaker 11: It details his high school games. A by district went

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Speaker 11: over Keller Central in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 5: Well, let me give you an example here. Allan High

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Speaker 5: School December twenty second, twenty twelve against Lamar thirty five

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Speaker 5: twenty one state title game.

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Speaker 11: Lamar consolidated.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Houston, Lamar Okay.

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Speaker 5: Forty three yard rushing, two touchdowns, a fifty five yard run,

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Speaker 5: a sixty eight yard run, forty nine passing yards.

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Speaker 11: In one touchdown. There you go.

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Speaker 5: And they documented every game, even the one that he

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Speaker 5: didn't start for Texas.

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Speaker 2: A and M. Yeah, yeah, so we do, we do.

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Speaker 2: I'm with it, man, we do, we have.

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Speaker 5: He rushed for twenty seven yards.

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Speaker 6: They had three quarterbacks, they had a little well.

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Speaker 11: He went to A and M on the heels of

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Speaker 11: Johnny Manziel being there and Kyle Allen was there too,

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Speaker 11: and then both of them transferred out, and of course

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Speaker 11: Murray went and won a Heisman Trophy and became the

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Speaker 11: number one pick after being a top ten pick in

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Speaker 11: the baseball draft.

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Speaker 3: Have you guys been disappointed with the way that his

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Speaker 3: pro career has gone so far? Yes, yea, with all

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Speaker 3: the promise that came from him out of obviously out

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Speaker 3: of high school but college as well, coming off the Heisman,

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Speaker 3: it's been kind of weird to see, you know, the

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Speaker 3: whole PlayStation.

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Speaker 6: Whatever they think he's been, I don't think has been blessed.

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Speaker 6: With consistent leadership and support.

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Speaker 11: You know, he had us that one season where they

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Speaker 11: were first half. In fact, that was sort of Kingsbury's

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Speaker 11: time there, and it was it. Actually, that's why he

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Speaker 11: was there. Arallelled. Yeah, and at paralleled what he did

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Speaker 11: Kingsbury did as a head coach at Texas Tech. They

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Speaker 11: the first half of the year they'd always start strong,

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Speaker 11: and Cardinals did the same thing, and then the second

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Speaker 11: half of the season things would create.

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Speaker 4: Well, Bill, I will tell you this.

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Speaker 3: We did not talk about the offense one time today,

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Speaker 3: So tomorrow's rundown will be offense heavy.

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Speaker 11: Okay, I just want you to know. I love that

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Speaker 11: we need to we need to take our focus off.

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Speaker 5: The and that's our last show before the game, right yes,

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Speaker 5: Monday night.

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Speaker 3: So you have to make our predictions and picks to

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Speaker 3: click all of that.

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Speaker 2: It's a regular Friday around here.

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Speaker 11: Oh. By the way, I need to clear up from

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Speaker 11: yesterday and Everson on this this, Oh he always brings

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Speaker 11: up something that I can't. I say something and then

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Speaker 11: Everson will say, well what about San Francisco? Like, Okay,

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Speaker 11: yesterday it was about San Francisco and their injuries, and

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Speaker 11: I'm I'm lamenting the Okay, they played without Nick Bosler,

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Speaker 11: they're playing without Bobby Fred Warner. Yeah, yeah, and uh

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Speaker 11: and then and then ever since said, well, what's five

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Speaker 11: and three? Yeah, so I did some research. They started

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Speaker 11: the season three and oh and Bosa was healthy. Bosa

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Speaker 11: got hurt at the third game of the season, and

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Speaker 11: so what would that make them there? Two and three?

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Speaker 11: Since then?

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Speaker 2: So when did Winner get hit and then.

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Speaker 11: Warner got hurt? It was, well, they're one and two

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Speaker 11: since Warner got h Yeah, and so what happened they

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Speaker 11: they whatever game?

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 11: The only game that they've won since Warner got hurt

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Speaker 11: was against Itlanta twenty to ten, a Falcons team that

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Speaker 11: the following week goes to miamis run out. So anyway,

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Speaker 11: now my other point on it, and this is about

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Speaker 11: the Cowboys defense. Just because you lose those players, and

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Speaker 11: this is your point, doesn't mean you can't function as

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Speaker 11: a team. But I think what's going to happen with

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Speaker 11: San Francisco and what to what has happened with them

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Speaker 11: losing Bosa and still being able to win some games? Okay,

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Speaker 11: is time on task, which is what the Cowboys have

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Speaker 11: some extra time this week with a Monday night game

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Speaker 11: with these secondary guys, you can coach them up and

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Speaker 11: maybe you don't have the communication issues going forward. And

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Speaker 11: then you got a bye week after that on the Ravens.

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Speaker 11: That was a big thing with the Ravens because that

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Speaker 11: was after the parallel comparison with a secondary where Houston

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Speaker 11: lit them up for forty four points. Well, then they

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Speaker 11: got their guys back. They had a bye week in

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Speaker 11: there two and yeah, now Lamar's back.

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Speaker 2: Well anyway, I see what you say.

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Speaker 5: So the Raiders better watch out and watch.

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Speaker 11: Out for Derek and uh they're playing tonight at Baltimore

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Speaker 11: in Miami. That's rights correct, Watch out for Derek Henry.

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Speaker 11: He's got his running quarterback back.

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Speaker 4: Are they playing in Miami or in Baltimore?

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Speaker 11: That will require me to sorry, this app.

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Speaker 2: Right either way.

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Speaker 3: I just wonder if it was a homecoming for Lamar

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Speaker 3: Rump and will be in the house.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 4: That's a different kind of speed right there, pumping.

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Speaker 11: They're at Miami. Oh yeah at Miami. Oh yeah, okay,

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Speaker 11: were many a time.

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Speaker 2: Feed them?

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Speaker 11: So here we go, go to the mess hall, Everson,

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Speaker 11: We'll shut at you again tomorrow at Go Cowboys.

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