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Speaker 1: Native Lampard is a production of iHeart Radio in partnership

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Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome home everyone.

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Speaker 1: We are thrilled to be joined today for our mini

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Speaker 1: pod our dear sister.

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Speaker 3: She just celebrated a birthday this week. She is a legend.

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Speaker 1: A civil rights hero of our time. You all will

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Speaker 1: read about her in the history books. But Tip and

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Speaker 1: I at least get to call her a machete sister friend.

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Speaker 1: I know Bakari and Andrew are gonna get mad they

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Speaker 1: call a sister too. But this is the legendary co

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Speaker 1: founder of Black Voters Matter, Natasha Brown, and also the

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Speaker 1: Southern Black Girls Collective.

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Speaker 3: Did I get it right?

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Speaker 4: He'll be no, you didn't get it right. But it's okay.

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Speaker 4: Girls and Women's Consortium and Women's Consortia.

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Speaker 5: And get the sea word right. It's okay.

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Speaker 1: But what you gotta know is Latasha fights for all

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Speaker 1: of our people, whether they in the South and north east,

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Speaker 1: the West, across the continent. She is here because she

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Speaker 1: is fighting now to en sure that we get our Say, Latasha,

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Speaker 1: you have just launched, in coalition with some others, really

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Speaker 1: robust boycott initiative and I want you to talk about

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Speaker 1: we ain't buying it.

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Speaker 3: We ain't buying it.

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Speaker 4: We are not buying that we live in the wealthiest

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Speaker 4: country in the world and we cannot take care of

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Speaker 4: its citizens. We ain't buying that you can give a

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Speaker 4: trillion dollars over a trillion dollars over the next however

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Speaker 4: many young years, next decade to a thousand wealthiest people

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Speaker 4: in this country, and you cannot supply for food stamps,

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Speaker 4: You cannot make sure that people don't lose the ACA,

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Speaker 4: they don't lose their subsidies for health care.

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Speaker 3: We ain't buying it.

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Speaker 4: We ain't buying that you can actually go and spend

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Speaker 4: three hundred million dollars on a.

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Speaker 3: Gold gilded dining room.

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Speaker 4: At the same time, people including veterans, are standing in

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Speaker 4: line for hours. So we ain't buying it. And because

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Speaker 4: we ain't buying it, we ain't buying with people that

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Speaker 4: staying with that foolishness. And so we've launched a campaign

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Speaker 4: that literally we are talking. There are three companies who

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Speaker 4: have actually capitulated, have stood with this administration, have backed

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Speaker 4: away from their DEI commitments, Target Home, Depot and Amazon.

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Speaker 4: We're coming for you on Thanksgiving weekend. We're asking people

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Speaker 4: just like we're not buying this fool shis. We're not

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Speaker 4: buying and spending our money with companies that are not

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Speaker 4: literally standing up for democracy and standing to protect us

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Speaker 4: when there are people that are seeking a government.

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Speaker 3: That seeking to harm us.

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Speaker 4: Again Amazon, and I did say the Amazon because I

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Speaker 4: know everybody started like.

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Speaker 3: Today, but I got a message with that.

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Speaker 4: I got a cool I got a tip with that

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Speaker 4: Amazon Home depot and Target.

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Speaker 5: The home depot easy. I'm gonna have to I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: talk to Ellen about Target. Make sure she stay out

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Speaker 5: of that one. That's the one I'm worried about.

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Speaker 3: She should have been out of. We've been, but she

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Speaker 3: kind of got.

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Speaker 5: But that's it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me let me just do an Amazon is

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Speaker 1: gonna be I'm not gonna lie. It is gonna be

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Speaker 1: very hard. It's a Seattle headquarter company. I want you

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Speaker 1: really quick LB to get into why you chose those

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Speaker 1: particular targets no pun intended. And also if you can

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Speaker 1: talk about the importance of an economic boycott within a

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Speaker 1: truncated time frame, because normally, I think, especially in this

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Speaker 1: day and age, people are like, are you really going

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Speaker 1: to get a win. If there's an end of the matter,

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Speaker 1: what is the purpose of having an end to the

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Speaker 1: boycott and why wasn't it extended beyond just Thanksgiving weekend

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Speaker 4: So let me say this, this is not a boycott.

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Speaker 4: This is an economic action. And so it's okay because

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Speaker 4: there are boycott's target isn't actually full fledged boycott, And

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Speaker 4: with a boycott there's a particular specific ask, there's a

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Speaker 4: negotiation that goes around there, and there's an expected outcome.

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Speaker 4: What we're saying is that we have economic power. Not

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Speaker 4: only we have political power flex, but we have that's right,

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Speaker 4: we all flex. We have economic power. And what we

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Speaker 4: know is twenty to over forty percent of sales for

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Speaker 4: projection for the next six months are determined by that

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Speaker 4: we can and so this is really while it is

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Speaker 4: we're lifting up the companies, this is really about us

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Speaker 4: building our muscle. Like listen, I love the shop online

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Speaker 4: like the next person. Matter of fact, and all I

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Speaker 4: get it right back they're right there, right, But ultimately, y'all,

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Speaker 4: if we cannot create the kind of discipline for four days,

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Speaker 4: well we're saying that we've got to start developing the

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Speaker 4: us or allowing what, we're just gonna let We're just

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Speaker 4: gonna support these folks who are capitulating. They're going up

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Speaker 4: on the White House like given their basically promising their

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Speaker 4: first born child to an administration that is being hurtful in.

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Speaker 3: Harmful to us.

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Speaker 4: And so while this is yes, we're we're looking at

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Speaker 4: how we use our money. We want people to be

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Speaker 4: more conscious about their spending. More than anything, We want

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Speaker 4: have a dent in that truncated space. Now, there are

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Speaker 4: some folks like the Target boycott. The Target boycott hang

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Speaker 4: on end is going to continue until they meet their demands,

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Speaker 4: and there are other actions that are happening as well

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Speaker 4: that people are really talking about what they can do

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Speaker 4: to continue, and we want people to be activated in that.

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Speaker 4: But this is a way for us to actually show

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Speaker 4: and demonstrate, you know. Part of reasons why our power,

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Speaker 4: part of reasons why I think elections work is because

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Speaker 4: they have a there's like a timeframe, right that you know,

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Speaker 4: there's the election is gonna happen this day, and there's

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Speaker 4: gonna be some choice and.

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Speaker 3: Decision made by that day. Right, what can happen?

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Speaker 4: Particularly traditionally with boycotts, they can go on for a month,

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Speaker 4: they can go on for a couple of years, they

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Speaker 4: can go on, and and they should. I am actually

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Speaker 4: a support of that. But this is a design in

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Speaker 4: that way. This is an economic action for people to

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Speaker 4: actually reflect, to be more consciously aware of how we

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Speaker 4: and that there is a collective action we're going to

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Speaker 4: take that weekend to send a message that we ain't

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Speaker 4: playing with y'all, Like at the end of the day, we.

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Speaker 3: Are not buying.

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Speaker 5: Let me ask a question real quick. Is there is

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Speaker 5: there I think you answered it just now, But is

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Speaker 5: there an ask that that goes along with this economic action?

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Speaker 5: Are we asking these companies for something?

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Speaker 3: Or yeah, you mean like stop being racist, but like but.

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Speaker 5: Like a specific like a specific ask and or because

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Speaker 5: I mean it could be both. Is this Is this

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Speaker 5: a message to the world and organizing messaging tactic that

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Speaker 5: we're using, because by the way, I'm all in. I

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Speaker 5: just need to figure out. You just need to tell me, well,

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Speaker 5: why we hear what we're doing, and what the end

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Speaker 5: result gonna be. But I'm all in because I follow

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Speaker 2: Well, you just need to ask.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you just in case somebody asked me what

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Speaker 5: I'm doing, I need to be able to tell them why.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why.

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Speaker 5: All right, nice to have you on the show. Welcome Home.

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Speaker 4: So part of what I think you know, I'm glad

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Speaker 4: early upfront to distinguish this is not a boycott and

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Speaker 4: a boycott and a boy this action in terms of

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Speaker 4: when you're buying it. Now, there are boycotts that are

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Speaker 4: part of this right and for example, the target boycott

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Speaker 4: fledged boycott. They have specific list of demands that people

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Speaker 4: have been organizing around that they're actually in negotiations with

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Speaker 4: What you're going to see is there's been an official

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Speaker 4: with that have a specific ask. This is an organizer.

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Speaker 4: I'm an organizer and this right here is an organizer

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Speaker 4: container for a couple of things. One is not just

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Speaker 4: particular the folks that listen to this, this is about

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Speaker 4: you too, that ultimately we want the companies to do right,

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Speaker 4: but we ain't got to do right.

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Speaker 3: No, we gonna have to do better. We're going to

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Speaker 3: have to be much more conscious.

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Speaker 4: Much more disciplined, much more directed with our spending. So

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Speaker 4: for me, what the big part of this campaign is

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Speaker 4: really about raising the consciousnes, the consciousness and the awareness

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Speaker 4: look at black folk in this country, we've got one

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Speaker 4: point eight trillion dollars in it, literally in billion dollars,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, in consumer power. That's a lot of power, y'all.

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Speaker 4: That when we're looking at how are we using that?

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Speaker 4: Why are we still continuing the same kind of spending

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Speaker 4: Like the next person that many of us are spending

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Speaker 4: Target when I was shopping there, right, But ultimately, I

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Speaker 4: don't love Target more than I love my five year old.

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Speaker 4: Like my five year old, I don't love Target more

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Speaker 3: She can't afford that. That's more than all that's the

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Speaker 4: So we've got to use the pressure. However we can

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Speaker 4: use that pressure. But more than anything for this particular campaign,

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Speaker 4: this campaign.

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Speaker 3: Is for us. It is for us to really.

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Speaker 4: Think about our spending choices, our habits that we're actually

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Speaker 4: contributing to businesses that are hurting and harming us. So

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Speaker 4: it's not just they gotta do right, we gotta do right.

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Speaker 5: LB.

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Speaker 3: Can I just and I know T if you need

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Speaker 3: to get in here Andrew.

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Speaker 1: You two, I just want to do one quick fact

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Speaker 1: check just because I love you, sister, and you going

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Speaker 1: it is two point one trillion, and it is trilli,

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Speaker 1: but it's well Nielsen, Nielsen.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you if you say, I just want

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Speaker 4: to I said trillion in back off a billion, but right, okay,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna taking.

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Speaker 1: But I'm with you on that. I just want to

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Speaker 1: make sure we take the whole Yeah, Like, let's be clear.

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Speaker 3: If it's between one.

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Speaker 1: Point eight and two point one somewhere in there, that's

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of money, so Youney, and that is

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Speaker 1: not our wealth. That is what we spend. This is

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Speaker 1: also a discipline exercise of be I hear you. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: and I do.

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Speaker 4: Want to say about the companies earlier, and I know

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Speaker 2: But to do that to Andrew ask your question, you

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Speaker 3: And I will say to this too.

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Speaker 4: You know, I can't tell y'all how many times I've

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Speaker 4: if you can't wait, if you can't go four days

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Speaker 4: So that's why each day on Thursday, we're saying, spend

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Speaker 3: We ain't spending no money. We spending time with our families.

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Speaker 4: On Friday, that which they call black Friday, we call

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Speaker 3: So it is a four.

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Speaker 3: That are happening.

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Speaker 2: I love it, Pasha.

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Speaker 6: But we have to consider the humanity of other people.

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Speaker 6: They if you get your on them, you get your

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Speaker 4: You know, the good news is if I was dependent

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Speaker 4: I am a daughter, a great great great grandchild of

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Speaker 4: A beautiful telescope for my birthday, just I'm just flexing

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Speaker 4: you can put whatever you want to put it. Ultimately,

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Speaker 4: I will still rise and I will also bring and

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Speaker 4: open that space up for others. So in this moment

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Speaker 4: where we are feeling this darkness, this is the moment.

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Speaker 3: Baby, turn your light on, like put your lightners up.

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Speaker 4: This is the moment that you need to whatever it

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Speaker 4: is in you, your humanity, that's when you cut that on.

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Speaker 4: And you're being called in this moment. So I don't

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Speaker 4: think I don't want to minimize that is this a

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Speaker 4: heavy moment. Absolutely, I don't want to minimize the fact

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Speaker 4: that are people suffering and struggling. Absolutely, But we have

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Speaker 4: always had to deal with racism, we have always had

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Speaker 4: to deal with economic barrier, some of us more than others.

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Speaker 3: And we have always found joy and found a way out.

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Speaker 4: And so all I'm saying is, perhaps God in the universe,

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Speaker 4: because I'm a personal faith perhaps this moment we just

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Speaker 4: it's your showtime. Maybe in this moment where we're in

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Speaker 4: the darkest night of this country, maybe this is the

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Speaker 4: moment that our stars are supposed to be shining their brightness.

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Speaker 4: And all that means, in my opinion, is that we've

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Speaker 4: got to go back to be in community. We've got

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Speaker 4: to use our power. We can't just go around and

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Speaker 4: spend money and not be conscious of it. We can't

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Speaker 4: go around and say things and not be conscious of it.

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Speaker 4: We can't go around and repeat things that we've heard

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Speaker 4: on Instagram or somewhere and not be conscious of it.

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Speaker 3: Why. Because we are at war, and when you are

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Speaker 3: at war, you move differently.

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Speaker 4: You're far more disciplined, You're more disciplined in your thoughts,

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Speaker 4: you're more disciplined in your movement. And so this is

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Speaker 4: the moment that I think is being called for us.

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Speaker 4: It don't really matter what the other folks gonna do,

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Speaker 4: because they've been pretty.

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Speaker 2: Consistent for four hundred years.

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Speaker 4: The question is what is it that we're going to

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Speaker 4: do that's going to be different, that creates a different

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Speaker 4: kind of result. And I think this is a opportunity.

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Speaker 4: It's a bad space that we're in, but this is

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Speaker 4: also an opportunity for us to shift the frame from

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Speaker 4: seeing ourselves as citizens of this bason, this bootleg nation

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Speaker 4: that we're see in right now, to start seeing ourselves

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Speaker 4: as founders of a new America, the founders of a

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Speaker 4: nation that we design, we deserve that we're going to create.

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Speaker 1: Reading the hearing and the doing of his word, Latisha Brown, well,

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Speaker 1: I love'll feerless leader, We love you.

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Speaker 4: Please come back and thank you y'all. Come on, like,

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Speaker 4: go to our website. I got to go because I

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Speaker 4: actually have to got to go to a doctor's visit.

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Speaker 4: But if you can go to we ain't buying it

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Speaker 4: dot com And we want people to make it their own.

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Speaker 4: This is campaign isn't held by one group or one person.

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Speaker 4: Make it your own because there are other folks and well,

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Speaker 4: you know what, they add all kinds of stuff in

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Speaker 4: that list. My niece to day had about fifteen different

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Speaker 4: co is that she was like, Oh yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 4: going to.

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Speaker 3: Them because they did this, this, they did that.

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Speaker 4: So part of the spirit is there's a spark, there's

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Speaker 4: a space. There are folks around the nation that are

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Speaker 4: gonna do some actions. Use your power right because we

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Speaker 4: are baying before you.

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Speaker 3: Go, it's real quick.

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Speaker 6: Can you just give us one little, one little note,

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Speaker 6: you give us something on your way out.

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Speaker 4: Our note is, well, the first thing I did right

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Speaker 4: was the day I started to fight.

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Speaker 2: Keep your eyes on.

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Speaker 3: Did not mean and.

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Speaker 2: If you were on the street, you wouldn't know that.

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Speaker 3: If you wet, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: We're y'all, you and mute you want to hear you.

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Speaker 2: I'm still.

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Speaker 6: Like, let the audience your time.

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Speaker 5: You can't tell me. You can't tell me how my

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Speaker 5: spirit moves.

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Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying, that's the music.

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Speaker 2: They don't know. They don't know, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Andrew the ain't never been to the morning being don't know.

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Speaker 5: They're trying to dictate that.

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Speaker 4: We want to know.

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Speaker 3: How about the job just saying. This is why she

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Speaker 3: does it impromptu, because yes, because I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 4: Well, the first thing I did right was the day

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Speaker 4: I started to fight, keep your eyes on the price.

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Speaker 3: And hold on, hold on, because we ain't buying it

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Speaker 3: by y'all.

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Speaker 2: I'm going he's out, hold on, hold on, hold on.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna say this. I I actually appreciate

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Speaker 1: call and response. It is in our nature to be,

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Speaker 1: you know, instantaneously responsive. We do it on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: that's what we got.

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Speaker 2: But he's.

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Speaker 1: Doing that. But my point is I really think that

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Speaker 1: I get it. And so I'm sorry for hitting y'all

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Speaker 1: so hard, but I was really mad.

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Speaker 3: Because I wanted to just hear Latasha.

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Speaker 1: And what she normally does is she'll come into a

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Speaker 1: speaking engagement or into a segment on air and just go,

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Speaker 1: and so people don't really have this chance.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying the audience, I'm trying.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing it a really terrible job apparently, but I

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Speaker 1: didn't piss them off.

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Speaker 3: I love them, but I really did just want to

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Speaker 3: hear Atasha. That's not what we were doing. They about.

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Speaker 1: They actually they want to actually they do, and this

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Speaker 1: is actually one of those moments where I think people

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Speaker 1: need to have something to hold onto. And one thing

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Speaker 1: that I really believe LB does so well is she

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Speaker 1: can snatch hope out of a very dark circumstance and

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Speaker 1: she does it with the power of her spoken and

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Speaker 1: melodic word. And so we appreciate y'all for going on

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Speaker 1: mute while you're saying horrifically. And even though you you

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Speaker 1: felt like you were a team player, you were not.

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Speaker 1: And it was as annoying as Andrew's lawnmower in the background.

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Speaker 3: So there's that. I love you. Guys got the spirit because.

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Speaker 5: They can't they how the spirit moves us, the jealousy.

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Speaker 2: They can't even hit the notes, not one of them.

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Speaker 5: They don't even hit them.

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Speaker 3: Thank you ahead of my.

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Speaker 5: You don't even know. You don't need. First of all,

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Speaker 5: protocol has not been established.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know what after church. You go to

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Speaker 1: teen team drums and no bass drum, but I go

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Speaker 1: to Koji church.

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Speaker 3: Protocol it's always indeed.

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Speaker 5: You're not telling the truth because you have still been

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Speaker 5: in church today.

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Speaker 4: If you were Kojing, the complication was this church just

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Speaker 4: got to just hit the letter.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 1: I go to Church of God in Christ My church

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Speaker 1: is progressive. We end on time now everywhere else. If

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Speaker 1: there's a regional meeting, we're gonna be there till three

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Speaker 1: p m. But no, today we are out of church.

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Speaker 1: Who is not in churches, y'all and y'all definitely not

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Speaker 1: in a choir that said, we thank you.

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Speaker 5: You have let me open some mail.

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Speaker 3: Welcome home, Welcome y'all.

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