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Speaker 1: Judge Joey, I am here today with the sleeper and

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Speaker 1: and of course I use that term lucy with the

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Speaker 1: two of you. Does it make you upset, justin Mason,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how to feel about this right now.

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Speaker 2: This is very unsettling, that is for sure. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: how to I don't know how to react right now.

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Speaker 1: See Spor knows what to do. You kiss the judges ass,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, sorry, but this is America where we fight

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Speaker 2: for truth and justice, and the truth of the matter

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Speaker 2: is that's weird.

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Speaker 3: Objection.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well you know, objection sustained pastor. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's go. I've got my gavel, I've got my wig,

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Speaker 1: I've got my robes here what I'm wearing under it

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Speaker 1: is my business, not yours. And we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about some players here. The first one is a big

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Speaker 1: deal because Nolan McClain is a guy you put some

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Speaker 1: pretty hefty draft stock in right now. We will be

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Speaker 1: watching him more in the WBC. I believe this evening too,

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Speaker 1: unless something's changed it I don't know about. So we

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Speaker 1: have Nolan McLain's That first outing in WBC wasn't so hot,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter because the guy came up last

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Speaker 1: year gave eight tremendous starts. Everybody was super excited about

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Speaker 1: Nolan McLain's future this year, but it feels like somebody

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Speaker 1: might be a little less excited about Nolan McClain at

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Speaker 1: his current adyp So let's start here with Justin Mason.

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Speaker 1: Justin Mason, what side of the Nolan McClain argument would

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Speaker 1: you like to take here in twenty two, twenty six

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Speaker 1: before the court today.

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Speaker 2: Your honor. I am pro Nolan McLean. This is a

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Speaker 2: young stud I love everything that he does. He has

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Speaker 2: a completely full arsenal, can throw six pitches, showed great

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Speaker 2: command to control last year, a huge strikeout upside. There's

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Speaker 2: really no reason to be down on Nolan Clean, and

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Speaker 2: anybody who says otherwise is not just wrong, but isn't

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Speaker 2: very smart. So I objection you Conclean should be considered

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Speaker 2: an SP two with SP one upside, Your honor.

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Speaker 1: I will hold that objection for a moment here because

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Speaker 1: I want to cross examined for a moment Justin Mason.

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Speaker 1: Justin Mason, looking at these current projections one hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty five strikeouts, three A two e R, a ten

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Speaker 1: and nine record, it's not great. He is being drafted

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Speaker 1: right at the twenty fourth pitcher overall in the consensus

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Speaker 1: rankings at Fantasy Pros, which you can find at fantasypros

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Speaker 1: dot com slash rankings. So go check it out, and

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Speaker 1: then you look, he's a top one hundred player, just

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Speaker 1: barely at ninety five. But I gotta say these projections

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Speaker 1: are not great. Why these projections so low on Nolan

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Speaker 1: McClain after he was so incredible last year down the

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, you know, you when you're arguing in

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Speaker 2: the court case, Let's look at the evidence. And the

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Speaker 2: evidence is that projections are lower on rookies and younger

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Speaker 2: players because they don't have the track record MLB track

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Speaker 2: record to go back through. I this is why, like

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Speaker 2: the bat always says like, hey, I'm lower on rookies

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Speaker 2: MLB track record to kind of pull from. So I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't worry as much about the projections. I think the

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Speaker 2: projections are missing on McClain. What he does is he

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Speaker 2: strikes guys out. He has amazing stuff. All six of

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Speaker 2: his pitches have a stuff plus greater than one hundred

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Speaker 2: one hundred being league average. As long as the control

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Speaker 2: is in check, I have no reason to believe that

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Speaker 2: Nolan McLean won't turn to a stud this year.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we'll sit the defense down now. Actually,

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Speaker 1: Mason sitting already because it's a podcast. Nobody really stands

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Speaker 1: on podcasts anymore. Paul Sport, you are going to take

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Speaker 1: the other side of this one. So let's get your

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Speaker 1: take on why perhaps, all right, Nolan mclan is a

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Speaker 1: little overrated this year.

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Speaker 3: That last line was essentially, if he's good, he'll be good.

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Speaker 3: If his command and controller there, he'll be good. Of

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Speaker 3: course that's true, but we did not actually see that

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Speaker 3: from Nolan McLain in his sample. In fact, that kind

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Speaker 3: of stood out like a sore thumb. A nine percent

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Speaker 3: walk rate isn't that sharp, and ninety five percent location

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Speaker 3: plus isn't that sharp. And despite that beautiful one seventeen

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Speaker 3: stuff plus, he does have remarkably nasty stuff. I would

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Speaker 3: say that he kind of underachieved in the strikeouts, and

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Speaker 3: that's a little bit concerning. On the one hand, you

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Speaker 3: could say maybe there's upside there because he only had

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Speaker 3: a thirty percent k rate and eleven percent swinging strike rate.

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Speaker 3: First off, that sort of swinging strike rate doesn't usually

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Speaker 3: sustain a thirty percent krate, so he needs to get

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Speaker 3: the extra swing and miss. This is not some sort

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Speaker 3: even strike out more. I need Nolan McLain to get

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Speaker 3: more swings than miss misses and improve his command. In

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Speaker 3: his first full year, dude has fewer than fifty innings,

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Speaker 3: and Joe, you read the conservative fantasy pros ADPs on him.

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Speaker 3: If you're over at the NFBC putting in that main

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Speaker 3: event money, you're paying pick seventy nine for Nolan McClain.

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Speaker 3: What are we doing here? I do understand that projections

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Speaker 3: are light on prospects because they don't have a deeper record,

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Speaker 3: but they're also a sobering look at what we're doing

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Speaker 3: here and making sure that we're not chasing too much

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Speaker 3: my former colleague here, And we'll see how far this goes,

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Speaker 3: because I'm really disgusted with his behavior in this court today.

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Speaker 3: If I may say so myself, you're on her. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: my one time here often often recommends folks not wish

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Speaker 3: cast and you know what, that's great advice. I just

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Speaker 1: The defense, whooh, that's a solid argument. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: ask the prosecution to a follow up question here because

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Speaker 1: I want to get a little bit more insight you

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Speaker 1: look at last year. Of course, I don't think any

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Speaker 1: of us think that the two six cra is something

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Speaker 1: under three. So to Mason's point about wish casting, it's

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Speaker 1: it's a small sample size, but over eight starts it

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Speaker 1: certainly looked as though Nolan McClain was showing you that

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Speaker 1: there is some sustainability in here. How much do you

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Speaker 1: think the league will adjust to Nolan McClain too, considering

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Speaker 1: how incredible when you dig into some of the bigger

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Speaker 1: nerd stats of McLain, the ball movement is one of

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Speaker 1: the most electric in baseball, right. I mean you can

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Speaker 1: see it with your own eyes. So there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of that and one thing, but it's always say, you know,

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Speaker 1: when a guy has a ball that moves as much

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Speaker 1: as Nolan McLain, that is really tough to square up

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Speaker 1: consistently and hit. So the fact that the expected ERA

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Speaker 1: obviously was a little bit higher, but the FIP and

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Speaker 1: the XIP we're still not quite in line with the

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Speaker 1: two era, because that's ridiculous, but not far away from

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Speaker 1: it either. Do you see no path for Nolan McClain

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Speaker 1: to possibly be a.

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Speaker 3: Year I see a path. I see a clear path.

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Speaker 3: The problem is you're already paying full freight for it.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not necessarily against paying betting on the come

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Speaker 3: with guys in today's fantasy world. You have to do that.

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna get a super thick track record on

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Speaker 3: everyone you get, but fewer than fifty innings of a

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Speaker 3: good but not completely pristine sample is simply not enough

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Speaker 3: for me to pay a top eighty pick. You talk

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Speaker 3: about the nastiness of that stuff and how it can

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Speaker 3: be difficult to square up. That is absolutely true. You

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Speaker 3: know what else is difficult to do is constantly put

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Speaker 3: it in the zone. And if and if batters start

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Speaker 3: relenting on swinging and they don't give into McLean's stuff,

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Speaker 3: what if all of a sudden that walk right is

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Speaker 3: back at the eleven percent that we saw in the

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Speaker 3: miners last year, that's a totally different story. At that point.

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Speaker 3: I just think that we're not really baking in the

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Speaker 3: potential rookie struggles that we see from so many guys,

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Speaker 3: and instead you're having to pay full freight on McLean,

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Speaker 3: and it's just a risk that I'm not as comfortable taking.

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Speaker 3: I know if he shows out tonight, that price is

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Speaker 3: going to go up even higher too, which is the

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Speaker 3: crazy part.

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Speaker 1: If he bombs again. Okay, I'm just nation go ahead,

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Speaker 1: all right, sustained. I want you to go ahead and

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Speaker 1: make your closing argument here on McClain just.

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Speaker 2: Said it's difficult for him to keep it in the zone.

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Speaker 2: He had a fifty two and a half percent zone

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Speaker 2: percentage last year.

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Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't say what it was, just basics

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Speaker 2: It would have been the highest zone rate of any

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Speaker 2: picture in Major League Baseball, and not particularly close above Scooble,

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Speaker 2: above Brian wu who were the top two.

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Speaker 1: Mister will hold you a contempt. We haven't anyway.

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Speaker 2: Now he's gonna get better strikes. I think Nolan McLain

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Speaker 2: is being slept on. And the fact you would slander

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Speaker 2: a New York met in front of mister piece of Pia,

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Speaker 2: the honorable mister piece of Pia, is.

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Speaker 3: Just to.

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Speaker 1: Allow it. I will allow the pandering. I just want

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Speaker 1: you to know the pandering is allowed here in the

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Speaker 1: court room.

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Speaker 3: What what is believable about that fifty three percent zone rate.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't match up with anything else he's done, whether

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Speaker 3: in the miners at forty nine percent or forty seven

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Speaker 2: Guys get different coaching when they get to the major leagues.

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Speaker 3: We shall see, we shall see if he will change

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Speaker 3: why he still only have a nine percent walkway though.

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Speaker 3: Make guy that makes his stuff that more much more impressive.

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Speaker 2: This is also of you know, where he can finally

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I had him picked up a bat, you know.

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Speaker 2: Like I, I think mclan is one of the guys

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Speaker 1: Here a picture that the Welsh loves. I love. It

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Speaker 1: on this. Give me the anti Emmits Shehan argument. Who

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Speaker 2: It's me and I just gotta say, like, I don't

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Speaker 2: when Nolan McLain's you know he's going after Nolan McLay.

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Speaker 2: Emits she Hens price in the main event right now

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Speaker 2: is pick eighty five. Now, obviously in your ESPN you

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Speaker 3: I was literally, I was literally going, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: because most people don't play in NFBC who listened to

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Speaker 3: With still one nine on Fantasy Pros, And that's still how.

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Speaker 1: Sensus ADP right now is at one forty. I'm looking

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Speaker 3: I'm over back on your back, like I can. I

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Speaker 1: Well, if you guys want to come to a range.

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Speaker 1: Justin would you like me to offer you arbitration here today?

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Speaker 1: All right, Mason, I'm talking to me about ma she

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Speaker 1: You go ahead, Go ahead, Joe, we'll rattle off the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean give me Samuel Chandra, give me Trevor Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: you want a young guy, give me Bubba Chandler, who

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Speaker 2: up in last year. If you let me finish my

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Speaker 1: Mister, I like the cut of your jim. You complimented

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Speaker 2: Right, I appreciate you holding him in contempt because I

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Speaker 2: I feel very confident now on Paul's to Paul's credit, right,

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Speaker 2: Shean is a guy who came up last year through

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Speaker 2: The one thing I don't worry about with McClean that

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Speaker 3: to go for a young guy on team alone, I

434
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 3: can't do that, let alone. The fact that Bubba Chandler

435
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 3: isn't entirely sure of where the home plate.

436
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Speaker 1: Is, I agree with that.

437
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 3: I do like Bubba Chandler. I'm this is not an

438
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,920
Speaker 3: anti Chandler, but I'm Shehn all the way at one

439
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 3: extra round. If it was two, three, four rounds, you

440
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 3: can start talking. But we're talking pick one fifty four

441
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 3: versus pick one thirty eight. That's Sheahan all day. Still,

442
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 3: I still have great win probability on this team. So

443
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 3: while I might get some innings shaved off or have

444
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,159
Speaker 3: some difficult management like justin mentions with Dodger, rightis I

445
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,640
Speaker 3: will I will accept that I'm still going to get

446
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 3: a better per inning pitcher on the best team in

447
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 3: the universe, and I'm gonna take my chances that he

448
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 3: can get up to one hundred and thirty innings because

449
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,399
Speaker 3: that's all I really need to cash in big. I

450
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,400
Speaker 3: think another seventy a repeat of last year, Let's say

451
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 3: seventy three innings with a three and a quarter eer

452
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 3: and a one to fifteen whip, that would be worth

453
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 3: my one forty five pick let alone if he does

454
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 3: more than that. So I think she Hen is just

455
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,920
Speaker 3: completely set up for success this year, even if you

456
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 3: keep the innings somewhere capped around one forty because of

457
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 3: the Dodgers, I have.

458
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Speaker 2: I have a question, if it would please the court

459
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 2: for mister Sporer.

460
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Speaker 1: I will allow it.

461
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 2: If Emmit she was pitching on the on the Pirates

462
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 2: and Bubba Chandler was pitching on the Dodgers, you would

463
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 2: take over Bubba Chandler, because that's what it sounds like

464
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 2: to me.

465
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Speaker 3: Let me before I answered, let me ask you kind

466
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 3: of question with the question, why would.

467
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Speaker 1: You say no, no, no, no answer questions questions? But

468
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 1: I said.

469
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 3: All the team aspect was so valuable, So why what?

470
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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just well because you you said that Emitan's

471
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 2: skills are above reproach, and I don't believe. I don't

472
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 2: believe that's the case. Bubba Chandler, especially if we're comparing

473
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: the to Bubba Chandler has much better stuff better location.

474
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 2: Uh you know, like I I in a better.

475
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 3: For these next level stats. But location plus don't mean

476
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 3: anything if you're not if you're not not, if you're

477
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 3: walking guys, if you're walking guys, still.

478
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 2: Does right, and Emitien only has one pitch over one

479
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 2: hundred stuff plus is the change if he only throws

480
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: it seventeen percent of the time. Unless there's a pitch

481
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 2: mix change, I don't see how he maintains what he

482
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: did last season or even takes another step forward, right,

483
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: So I'm.

484
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,959
Speaker 3: Why I would a thirty one percent strike out right

485
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 3: be questionable with sixteen percent swinging strike though, I.

486
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: Just think it's a little bit of small sample.

487
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: Would like to uh, reckon back for a moment, if

488
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Speaker 1: we could to the exact question, and Paul Sport will

489
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: answer that question directly, because I think it's a hot question.

490
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: If Emma she Han was a pirate and Bubba Chandler

491
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: was a Dodger, would that ADP be reversed.

492
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 3: And would just be the ADP would be completely reversed

493
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 3: the ADP.

494
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Speaker 1: Would you be in on that player in that ADP?

495
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Speaker 1: Would you prefer Bubba Chandler bumba Dodgers as opposed to

496
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: Emmitch Han where he is?

497
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 3: Would we I want to do another's quite a really

498
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: annoying person because my my, my contention, judge, My contention, judge,

499
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 3: is that if Bubba Chandlill where a Dodger has ADP

500
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 3: would be pick one hundred. This hypothetical is I don't

501
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: think you could just switch them and say I'll live

502
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 3: with your hypothetical. If if Bubba Chanlill answer she was

503
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: a pirate at one fifty four, who would I take?

504
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 3: I would still take the Dodger. I don't think that's

505
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 3: inconsistent to what I said though, because I used the

506
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 3: Dodger for she Han as a big talking point. So

507
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 3: what have you proven by getting me to say that

508
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 3: I would take Chandler there.

509
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: All right, deliberation is done, We've heard the arguments, and

510
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: I have to say, this is another surprising one for me.

511
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,479
Speaker 1: I will say this, I offer everybody the concept of it.

512
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: If he's going and what you said the eightieth player

513
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: overall in n FBC right now, maybe.

514
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's absurd.

515
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: Helium has been simpl that is completely absurd. So we

516
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: will say at that eightyp specifically, we're absolutely avoiding him, no.

517
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 3: Way, and I am too. I'm on board of avoiding

518
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: him in NFBC now and.

519
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: Now one of them, I will say, wait, wait, the court,

520
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: the judge is still speaking, Judge Joey still.

521
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: Has they can I absolutely need.

522
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: Well, we know that, and I've held you for quite

523
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: some time. We've been friends for two decades, and it's

524
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: two decades too many decades, I will I will say

525
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: this too. The uh, the the way that you avoided

526
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: the direct question that I forget him on camera. You've

527
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: avoided the question twice. I gave you a second chance

528
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: to answer it there. And when people answer questions with

529
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: more questions, that means they don't have an answer that

530
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: they believe in Therefore I will rule in favor of

531
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: Justin Mason in this one, which is shocking to me

532
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: because I thought this was a layup. But you know what,

533
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: there's a couple other names around that same grouping there

534
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: that I feel like showing you a little bit more

535
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: or a little safer. There's great helium, there's great upside, Demachi,

536
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: and so I'm gonna say even at one, we're also

537
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 1: going to avoid him. Unless the caveat is you've built

538
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: such a fantastic starting pitching group that they're so solid.

539
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: You got the school ball, you've got another two or

540
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: three guys you feel so good about in that rotation

541
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: that you know, you got a logan Web, a guy

542
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: who's just a dog in there. Then you can get

543
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: fancy with them, Achihn. But now, I think far too

544
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: often people don't do that. So it's a little contextual.

545
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: But we'll work that out. We'll send it to a lower.

546
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: Context okay for you, not for me? Fair enough, judge,

547
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 3: fair enough.

548
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: That's right. This is my court, Sonny.

549
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: Boy court partially absolutely, and.

550
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Speaker 1: The fact that I let you wear a hat into

551
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: my courtroom too. All right, let's get to the third

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565
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: of you should have done before this show is obviously

566
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: brought me some sort of envelope with money in it

567
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: if he really wanted me to decide a certain way.

568
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you have the opportunities you both have

569
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: my venmo, I'm disappointed in both of you.

570
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: Would you take a Mountain Mike's gift card or.

571
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: There is no Mountain Mike's near me on the East Coast,

572
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: I would accept Cole's cash also very valuable.

573
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: Beyond the auto body.

574
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: No again, not here, be beyond one or that is intriguing.

575
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: I do have two teenage daughters in the house and

576
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: there's a lot of locals and soaps and things that

577
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: they am. Yeah, so that I would accept. Also, we

578
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: have to move on Joe Adell. Last year, after years

579
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: and years of waiting for a big season from him,

580
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: it kind of came out of nowhere. You saw the

581
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: power from Jo Adell last season, and now it's a

582
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: matter of can he find a way to peat and

583
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: copy and paste. Jo Adell has bounced back and forth

584
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: time and time again from the minor leagues to the

585
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: major leagues. From the major leagues of the minor leagues

586
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: has gone back and forth. Right now, currently he's the

587
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty fourth player off the board, the

588
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: thirty fourth outfielder, which feels like a bit of a value.

589
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: Last year thirty seven home runs that nobody saw coming.

590
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: He drove in ninety eight runs too. I think for

591
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: all of us with Joe Adell, he's twenty six years old. Now,

592
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: this has been a long time coming. Batting average is

593
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: never there. I don't think it's ever going to be there,

594
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: but I think we'll trade that off if we get

595
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: thirty plus bombs. Again, the question is to the deeper

596
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: stats allow us to go that route. Who would like

597
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: to take the defense of Joe Adell's ADP first between

598
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: the two of.

599
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 2: You, Well, I would like to take the defense of

600
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: him because I think when you say, like the batting

601
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: average will never be there, you're thinking about the old

602
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: Jo Adellan. This is a new Joe Adellan. It's been

603
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: a Joe Adell in in that progressing year after year.

604
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 2: You look at his zone contact when he first kind

605
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: of came into the league, it was terrible twenty twenty

606
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: sixty eight percent, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, you're

607
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: talking about a guy under eighty percent. But the last

608
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: the last two seasons he has really started to improve

609
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: that hit tool eighty one percent in twenty twenty four,

610
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: eighty five percent, which is league average zone contact in

611
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. We know he's got power, we know

612
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: he's got speed, and the only thing that's held him

613
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 2: back is that ability to make consistent contact within the zone.

614
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 2: And he's shown progression year after year with that without

615
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: giving up that power right. Sometimes guys will go like, oh,

616
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to make more contact, but in order to

617
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: do that, they got to swing a little bit slower.

618
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: Not Joe Adell. Joe Adell is still crushing the ball

619
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: but making league average zone contact. I think this is

620
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: a great price for Joe Adell. I think he's going

621
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: to continue to get better. Remember, this was one of

622
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: the top prospects and all of baseball based on tools alone. Yeah,

623
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: but he's only like twenty six, Like you say it

624
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: thirty years ago. But he's twenty six years old, going

625
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: to be twenty seven here at the beginning of the season. Hey,

626
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: those of you were aged twenty seven, truthers, this is

627
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: the year. But seriously, I think Joe Adell is turning

628
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: into the player we thought he could be.

629
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: Nothing makes this judge go six to midnight more than

630
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: the words league average. Also, let it be noted in

631
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: the in the court's official statements here that Joe Adele

632
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: does not spell his name with an E at the

633
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: end of Joe, which I also find is concerning at times.

634
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: Paul Sport. Let's take a look at the prosecution of

635
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: Joe Adele here on the negative side of him.

636
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: Look it seems to make maybe the sky's falling for

637
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: some folks when they see, you know this twenty six

638
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: percent krate, six percent walk, and they think it's worth

639
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: getting this guy. I think you should just set fire

640
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: to your entry at that point, because what are you

641
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: trying to say hello to this guy for. You don't

642
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: want someone like Joe Adell, You want someone who can

643
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 3: actually hit. The simple fact is this is empty What

644
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: is empty power? You say power not usually associated as

645
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: empty in the fantasy space. We usually say that for

646
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: batting average. What I mean by empty power is that

647
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: you get the homers. He did get ninety eight rabies.

648
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: I'll give him credit there, but you get a bad

649
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: batting average and you get weak runs, and I don't

650
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: really see where the upside comes. He has legitimately bad

651
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 3: plate skills with the twenty six percent k rate, six

652
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: percent walk. Where are those improving? He still swings and

653
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: misses a ton with a fourteen percent swinging strike rate.

654
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: He ran a twenty two percent homer to fly ball rate.

655
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 3: Did Joe Adell to get those homers, which he could

656
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: maybe do again? But a seventeen percent barrel rate is

657
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 3: a five point uptick? Is he going to keep that.

658
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 3: I don't know. Do I really want to bet on it.

659
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: Another thing that happens when you strike out so much

660
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: is that the times that you do make contact, you

661
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: have to do your damage. So if you aren't putting

662
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: the ball out at a twenty two percent clip on

663
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 3: homers to flyball, are we getting even thirty homers, let

664
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: alone another thirty seven. I don't see where the growth is.

665
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: I could maybe squint and see a repeat, but I

666
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 3: think that's if everything breaks right. I really think you

667
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: have a great chance to come back closer to something

668
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: like twenty twenty four, and I'll even give him the

669
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 3: speed for that, but that was twenty fifteen with a

670
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: two O seven and a ninety one WRC plus. I

671
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: just don't see where I want to be picking up

672
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: this guy. I don't think he's the remedy to your team,

673
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: and I think you're chasing pavements with Joe Adell Mason.

674
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: The fact that he only stole five bags last year

675
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: to a little upsetting. The year before, he had fifteen

676
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: steals in one hundred and thirty games. Last year just five

677
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: stolen bases. He's a very athletic, speedy guy. The rules

678
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: have really opened up for stolen bases. If you were

679
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: telling me Joe Adell this year, I mean, the projections

680
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: are telling us nine stolen bases. If he told me

681
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: he was going to be a thirty to fifteen guy,

682
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: maybe I can get on board and take the batting average,

683
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: a lot of the league average stuff that you talked about.

684
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: But how do you defend against the idea that right

685
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: after him maybe a round or two Andy Pajas is there,

686
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: Lawrence Butler, a guy who's got a similar profile to Adell,

687
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: but a little bit cheaper, and you know, frankly still

688
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: you know, certainly a year younger too, noev Vye Marte,

689
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: a boring guy like Ian Happ who was just putting

690
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: up stats every year, or Alec Burlson. And then even

691
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: a little further down, if you want a guy with

692
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: raw power and upside, you could wait three or four

693
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: more rounds and take Jack cagleone. So how do you

694
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: justify Adele considering the actual remaining guys in that general

695
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: vicinity and the outfield. And by the way, Paul spor

696
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: just for the record too, I did enjoy your Adele

697
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: song reference to quite good. The chasing pavements, I just

698
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: want to give you a hello. It's me. I hear you,

699
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: all right, Mason, back to you.

700
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: There, Listen. I don't have a problem with a lot

701
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: of those guys that you mentioned, so I'm not gonna

702
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: be smirch, you know, mister Kaganne, who I absolutely love.

703
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 3: You Know.

704
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: What I will say is the reason that a guy

705
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: like Lawrence Butler is going later is because Lawrence Butler's hurt, right,

706
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: And if Lawrence Butler is healthy coming into the last

707
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: weekend of drafts, I bet you Lawrence Butler kind of

708
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: jumps up there. I think Andy pa Has is a

709
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: really interesting guy. He's gotten this uh this you know,

710
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: hype around him being an affordable Dodger, which for some

711
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: reason this year is the year of the affordable Dodgers

712
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: coming off of a two P on going for a

713
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: three P and I've never seen a team so dominant

714
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: quote unquote like have these guys go later? But I

715
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: think pa is what we saw last year as a

716
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: ceiling on a guy like that. We haven't seen the

717
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: ceiling on Joe Adell. If he continues these underlying metrics

718
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: of improvement which we've seen year in year out from

719
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 2: still a fairly young guy like I could see a

720
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: world in which we have like a forty to fifteen

721
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: kind of season. Yes, the stolen bases did go down

722
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: last year, but you know what, sometimes it's hard to

723
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: steal first base when you're or steal second base when

724
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: you're jogging around the bases because you just hit a bomb.

725
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: And that's what happened with Joe Adell last year is

726
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: he just he was on got so many extra base hits.

727
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: He didn't have as many opportunities as opportunities as did

728
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. I mean, yes, I understand there

729
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: are some pitfalls, but the idea that he is empty

730
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: power seems ridiculous to me when he can do all

731
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: sorts of things, include stealing bases. And we see in

732
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: these projections right here that we've got that Fantasy pros

733
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 2: hasn't projected for nine. I could see that get back

734
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: up closer to that fifteen, be that thirty five to

735
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: fifteen guy with a better batting aver. The XBA last

736
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 2: year was two sixty, So I think there's room for

737
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: that batting average to grow.

738
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 3: Break for the XBA leagues, and.

739
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: It will be and you should play in some XBA

740
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 2: leagues Paul.

741
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: And some X plug leagues as well. Love the x

742
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: plugs here around there. Closing statement from you, Paul Sport,

743
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: real quick, and if you do give me another Adell

744
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: song title somewhere in that argument, it won't be overlooked.

745
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: Don't go rolling in the deep though I started with

746
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: that one.

747
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 3: Listen. The remedy here is to simply take Trent Grisham

748
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 3: one hundred and ten picks later. He did the exact

749
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 3: same stuff last year with far better plate skills twenty

750
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 3: four percent k R, fourteen percent walk rate, eight percent

751
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 3: swinging strike. Great. He It's just take Trent Grisham.

752
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: And you can do that too, right like this, and

753
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: picks higher for the same We have five outfielders we

754
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: have to fill in.

755
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: The league, and that's all. That's all right.

756
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: The court, the court has made his decision, everybody has

757
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: weighed in, and I do believe at this point in

758
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: time the arguments on the Paul Sports side of this

759
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: one to avoid is correct. Joe Adele just I've seen

760
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: too much bad, Joe Adele. I don't want to fall

761
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: into a trap there. And to the point too, if

762
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: you're looking for just cheap power, you can find it later,

763
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: and there's some guys getting float around there in those

764
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: rounds in the outfield that you could take a little

765
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: bit of a chance on, or take the boring guys

766
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: like the Ian halfs of the world, or take guys

767
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: like Pearlson. Boy. I hope we draft somebody today. This

768
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: is three in a row. Anybody, this is I got

769
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: to tell you you have to look. I think I

770
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: think the idea is that you know, especially the first

771
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: two guys, there's no doubt that there's a lot of

772
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: excitement when it comes to those two pitchers. But at

773
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: the same time, you have to know what kind of

774
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: roster you're building and also what you're getting yourself into.

775
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: At the current ADPs, the one forty is still tenable.

776
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: I feel like form she had eighty five is observed.

777
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just agreed. That's higher. What's McClain going

778
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: at If he's at eighty, what's McLean?

779
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 3: Basically, she had just caught up to mcquan. He's four

780
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 3: or five the same thing.

781
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she eighty five, and I want to say

782
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: McClean is eighty.

783
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: He just jumped up to him. Mcclean's been there all

784
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 3: year and she hadn't just got brought up to his level.

785
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: All right, So we've got three players in the tag.

786
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: We got two more to go. The next one here,

787
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, another met How could you guys do

788
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: this to me? It's Louis Robert, everybody. A couple of

789
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: years ago, he flashed what looked like all star MVP

790
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: level productivity. He's a great defender, can steal bases, but injuries,

791
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: lack of hustle, lack of I don't know anything, maybe

792
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: a team around him. Louise Robert's really fallen out of

793
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: favor the last couple of years, but now there's room

794
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: for excitement. I know, just per personally speaking, Whenever Andrew

795
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: Vaughan got traded to the White Sox, I was watching

796
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: very carefully to see if the change of scenery would

797
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: do him good in Milwaukee, and it did. And I

798
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: know one person in this room besides me, Justin Mason,

799
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: likes him a lot this year. So could Louise Robert

800
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: be that guy again here? With a contract looming as well?

801
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: Playing in an environment where you've got leadership with guys

802
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: like Lindor, with Soto, in spot where games matter, who

803
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: would like to come to the defense of drafting Louis

804
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: Robert here, it'll be Paul Spor to take the stand first.

805
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: GoF Art Spor tell me why we should be drafting

806
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: Louis Robert at his current ADP.

807
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: Well, your honor, you hit on something that I am

808
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: a big fan of, which is the change of scenery.

809
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: I do think that there is a lot of merit

810
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: to that. It doesn't mean that every guy that leaves

811
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 3: a bad situation gets instantly better, but not everyone that

812
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 3: leaves a bad situation has the talent profile of Louis Robert.

813
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 3: And the beauty of Robert is that even in the

814
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: last two seasons, which were undeniably wretched from a slash

815
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: line standpoint, let's call it a WRC point WRC plus standpoint,

816
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: which kind of summarizes it into one number eighty four.

817
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 3: That means he was sixteen percent below league average. That's bad.

818
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sit here and deny that. But he

819
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: went fourteen to twenty three and fourteen thirty three in

820
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: those two seasons in one hundred and one hundred and

821
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: ten games. That is pure fantasy juice. Even with the

822
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 3: bad batting average in the two twenty four to two

823
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: twenty three batting averages. I'm not going to sit here

824
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: and pretend that they don't sting you. But in today's

825
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: fantasy climate, they don't kill you the way they used to.

826
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 3: So you can get that speed there, and so there

827
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: is still a floor to Robert that doesn't completely kill you. Obviously,

828
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 3: I don't want this this year fourteen and twenty five

829
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: to thirty steals with a two to twenty something average.

830
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: That's not what we're paying for. We're paying for something

831
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: much closer to the return of that big twenty twenty

832
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 3: three season, not a full return to thirty eight twenty.

833
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: I don't think we're gonna get that, but I think

834
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 3: with health, which is the biggest caveat here, it's an unknown,

835
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: but it is something that you're gonna bet on with

836
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: with somebody like Robert, that we're gonna get back into

837
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: the twenties with the homers and thirty plus steals pretty

838
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: easily with a two forty two fifth type average on

839
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: a good team. You cited Andrew Vaughan, another guy I

840
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: was absolutely keyed in on like you were when he

841
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 3: went to the Brewers. Is this going to help? It

842
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 3: did instantly. I don't know that it's going to be

843
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: an instant flip for Robert. But if he stays healthy,

844
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 3: he is going to be a good fantasy player. Some

845
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: guys have fantasy juice that even in their down seasons,

846
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: it's there. Even if Robert just hits projections, which are

847
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 3: twenty twenty pretty much across the board, that will be

848
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 3: good enough to take him. He is more expensive than Adele,

849
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: but you're actually getting the steals, you're getting the fantasy

850
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: juice to go with it. So I'll buy back in

851
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 3: on Robert this year.

852
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: All right, let the prosecution step up here, justin Mason,

853
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: you have the floor washing. People be avoiding Louise Robert Jr.

854
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty six drafts.

855
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: All right, we have to start by just picking apart

856
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: Paul's argument right here, because he made the best point

857
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: and tried to use that as a positive for him.

858
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 2: But it's the if Louise Roberts stays healthy, Louise Robert

859
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: never stays healthy. Like that's just that is the point.

860
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: He has one season where he's gotten that.

861
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: Oh that is the guy that was talking of Joe

862
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: and Deell talking about health. Okay, no problem. I was

863
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: just making sure I was making sure Adele.

864
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: Adele has played in fewer seasons and has more five

865
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: under played appearent seasons than Luise Robert. That isn't okay,

866
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: Well whoa whoa? Am I allowed to speak here? Is this?

867
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: Is this Paul Spores time? Yeah new your microphone?

868
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: Uh?

869
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 2: Louise Robert, all he does is get hurt. And as

870
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: much as I love the guy and I honestly I

871
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: hope you're right, I do I I hope you. I

872
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: hope he puts together his first ever six hundred played

873
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: appearent season and absolutely crushes it. I just don't have

874
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 2: any belief he will, and I also don't have any

875
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: belief that it would even be good. Yes, you would

876
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: get power and speed, but I think like, even like

877
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 2: a full season of plate appearances from Louise Robert Jr.

878
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: Is going to look very very similar to O'Neal cruise

879
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 2: and crush that batting average.

880
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: Anywhere near that two ZHO nine level. He's never been,

881
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: but I think he could.

882
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: The problem is with and I think part of the

883
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: issues with all these injuries for Louis Robert is what

884
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 2: we're seeing is a degiestation in kills.

885
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: Mister s all you making some good arguments. Please let

886
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 1: Justin Mason finish his argument. Please.

887
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: You know, we were talking about like, hey, like, oh,

888
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: you know, with a Dell. You don't like the fact

889
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: that his zone contact is at league average. The last

890
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 2: time Luise Roberts zone contact was at league average was

891
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. It's been eighty percent pretty much

892
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: the last three years. He also swingers outside of the

893
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 2: zone way too much. We're talking thirty three to forty

894
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: percent over the course of the last three years, which

895
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 2: means that walk rate we saw last year was pretty fraudulent.

896
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 2: He got very, very lucky to post a nine percent

897
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: walk rate. It's gonna be much closer to that six

898
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 2: percent career mark. He you don't like the strikeouts from

899
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 2: jo Adell? Why do you like the strikeouts for the least?

900
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: Don't Robert? I mean, I just I think this is

901
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: a really, really risky profile. Honestly, there isn't that much

902
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: difference between Adele and Louis Robert. It's ever a Dell

903
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: can stay on the field.

904
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you this, Justin Mason, because

905
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: we're talking about the ADP being pretty similar. Now he

906
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: is twenty eight years old, Okay, so only two years

907
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: older than Joe Adell, and he's basically back to back.

908
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: It's a one twenty one outfielder, oh, excuse one twenty

909
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: one overall, one twenty four overall thirty. Third outfielders Robert thirty.

910
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: Fourth outfielder is Adele, So they are back to back.

911
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: So really it's a question of these guys are on

912
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: the board, which one do you take? And I have

913
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: to ask you this question because you mentioned about the

914
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: swing and miss, and let you mentioned about some of

915
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: the strikeouts going up last year and some of the

916
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: issues recently. How much also does lineup protection matter because

917
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: if you look, it was or should I say it

918
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: wasn't around in the last couple of years with the

919
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: White Sox. Man, it's really difficult to be the only

920
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: guy standing there because you know they're not going to

921
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: pitch to you there. They have no reason to throw

922
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: you strikes, especially if you have a breakout season in

923
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: twenty three. I understand he only paid barely one hundred

924
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: games in one hundred and ten games the last two years,

925
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: but despite all that, everything came crashing down along with

926
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: the White Sox. So is it just a matter of

927
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: taking a player with a lot of talent putting in

928
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: a better situation. Does that possibly just fix a lot

929
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: of the ills for a guy who there's just no

930
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: reason for opposing pitchers to even throw anything near him.

931
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: Hey, I mean, I think for the most part, lineup

932
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: protection is a myth, right except for when you have

933
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 2: a generational talent around you, and hey, yeah, on the

934
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 2: Mets there is a generational talent. You could argue there

935
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: might be a couple of generational talents, which, in spite

936
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: of Mike Trout previously being a generational talent, I don't

937
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: think you're gonna say that he is currently that type

938
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 2: of player that people are gonna pitch around. The problem

939
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 2: is Louise Robert is protected hit eighths in this lineup.

940
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: I don't think Carson Bench is a generational talent that

941
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: you've got to pitch around Louise Robert for, you know,

942
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: or pitch straight to Louise Robert to get a Carson Bench.

943
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: The fact that he's hitting eighth in this lineup doesn't

944
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: make me feel very rosy.

945
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: Protection comes from the front, not the back. That the

946
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: myth of the protection piece is the idea that is

947
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: that the better directly behind you is who protects you.

948
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 3: That's what's been broken down and shown to not really

949
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: exist in the stats. But where protection comes from is

950
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: a strong lineup altogether, which I think you were hitting

951
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 3: on your honor. And the depth of lineup for the

952
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 3: Mets is obviously far deeper than it was for the

953
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 3: White Sox. So it's the fact that guys are going

954
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: to be on base when he bats. That is a

955
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 3: bigger deal than Carson Benje being behind right now. To

956
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: Justin's point, bench is not necessarily going to strike fear

957
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 3: in the hearts of the opponent. If Robert comes up

958
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 3: with two men on and two out, they might walk him. Okay,

959
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: then he'll take his walk still, so then the walk

960
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: grate won't drop at that point. I still think that

961
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 3: being in this lineup is exponentially better for him. I

962
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 3: realize this all hinges on health, but everyone's case does, right,

963
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 3: so I think harping on that too much. We have

964
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: to focus on the talent, and the talent here the

965
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: set with the steels. Robert Gibbs, he's just a far

966
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 3: better investment than Adele, who has not shown a proclivity

967
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 3: to run outside of eight to ten.

968
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 1: All right, Look, there's some good comments there. I don't

969
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: like the the strays that are going Carson Benge's way

970
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: after that four for four night yesterday too. I just

971
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: want to look I feel like I feel I don't

972
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: feel like anybody loves Carson Benjax at me. To me,

973
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: he's like the next coming to Sean Green. That's what

974
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: I think Carson Benge is. Oh right, that's my promp

975
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: for him in terms of if you watch the finish

976
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: on the swing and put him side by side, it

977
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: looks an awful Oh if you if you recall when

978
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: Sean Green came up, that was the same question Sean Green.

979
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: It was like, Wow, Sean Green's a nice player, but

980
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: he's a big, strong kid. But does he have the pop?

981
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: And then and then you have like think we had

982
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: seas he did Carson Benge's path necessarily. But to the

983
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: point about the line of production, when you go from

984
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: having the guys that you have around you on the

985
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: White Sox are having three All Stars potentially hitting in

986
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: front of you, that is pretty spectacular. And then I

987
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: know that this this means that you know, Robert might

988
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: have to move up in the order at some point

989
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have to help himself out there and

990
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: then have a good spring and go ahead and finish

991
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: strong here and get off to a good start in April.

992
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: I think that goes a long way because there's.

993
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: That's a lot of ifs. There's so many ifs right there.

994
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't argue with the Judge Mason. Justin Mason, Judge

995
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: Joey is speaking. When Judge Joey is speaking, you sit down.

996
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: Otherwise I'm going to take in the back there and uh,

997
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: you know, and they hold you in contempt. They put

998
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: you in that cell. You know what kind of you

999
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: know what kind of toilets in that cell right you're

1000
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: sitting there on I thought it was it was when

1001
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: we started. It's no longer that so Louis Robert again,

1002
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: when we're getting down to this point here the power

1003
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: of the speed combination this late in the draft. But

1004
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: the biggest point too is the fact that there's money

1005
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: on the line and when these guys show up, we

1006
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: all know how it is. It's about cashing in, and

1007
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: this is Louise Roberts. Let's face it, last chance to

1008
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: do that. It's now or never, and at this ADP,

1009
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: I'll take the now or never twenty eight guy, then

1010
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: the guy in Joe Adell, who's basically been kind of

1011
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: floating around there. So I will say the court rules,

1012
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: we will be drafting Louise Robert. Finally we're gonna draft

1013
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: somebody off. But so happy because we made this graphic

1014
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: and we haven't gotten to use it yet. And Seth,

1015
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: our wonderful producer here did such great work on these graphics.

1016
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: Set us up with Michael Cally that I'd feel bad

1017
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: if we never drafted anybody. That brings us to the

1018
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: last player that we're gonna speak about today. It's a pitcher,

1019
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: a guy who also sort of popped a little bit.

1020
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people, I mean, some

1021
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: people were on the Nick Pavetta wagon in recent years

1022
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: and some people were not. It's taken Nick Povetta a

1023
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: long ride, bounced around a little bit, started with the Phillies,

1024
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: A lot of people liked and went to the Red Sox.

1025
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: Kind of just bouncing around here for years and years,

1026
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: and then last year thirty one starts, one hundred and

1027
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: eighty one innings, one hundred and ninety strikeouts, just fifty walks,

1028
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: a two eight seventy ra a point nine to nine whip.

1029
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: Things look pretty good for Nick Pavett at age thirty three,

1030
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of a late bloomer. Okay, perhaps

1031
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: that could be the case. But I want somebody to

1032
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: defend the ADP of Nick Pavetta because currently we are

1033
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: looking at him as the expert consensus eighty nine overall

1034
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: ninety one in terms of the number of pitchers as

1035
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 1: well going off the board. Here when it comes to Paveda,

1036
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: we are talking about a guy as the twenty third

1037
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: pitcher off the board, ironically, right ahead of Nolan mclan

1038
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 1: and my favorite human being Uri Perez. So who would

1039
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: like to defend the honor and the ADP of one

1040
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: Nick Pavetta, do sport honor, you may approach the bench.

1041
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 1: I was a late.

1042
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 3: Convert to Nick Pavetta last year. Throughout draft season, I

1043
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 3: was like, listen, you know, the marine layer is not

1044
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: just going to miraculously fix his homers. We need to

1045
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: be careful of this guy. Watch out. But I was

1046
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 3: breaking one of my own tenants your honor, which is

1047
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 3: to not undervalue the guy who's a great whip asset

1048
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 3: despite being a little bit of an era problem. And

1049
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: that was Paveda in twenty three, twenty four, in fact

1050
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: quite impressively. So he had a four h nine er,

1051
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: which is not that great for fantasy, even in your

1052
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 3: deeper formats, but a one to twelve whip that's good everywhere.

1053
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: There's no format where a one to twelve whip doesn't play,

1054
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: and he was able to do that with a thirty

1055
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 3: percent k rate. So that was the foundation that he

1056
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 3: was taking to San Diego. But a one to six

1057
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 3: homer nine and that's what I kept harping on, and

1058
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 3: I think rightfully. So I was saying, we have to

1059
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: be mindful of that. If he cannot fix that, then

1060
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 3: it's going to be difficult for him to be a stud.

1061
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 3: But the price was just good enough last year to

1062
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 3: take the chance, so I got sold on him by

1063
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 3: some friends, jumped in, and obviously the results were wonderful.

1064
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: He did bring the homers down to one point one.

1065
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 3: It was with a ten percent homer to fly ball rate,

1066
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 3: which is easily a career best. I could understand projecting

1067
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: regression there if not for a move to Petco with

1068
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 3: a ninety one home run park factor nine percent below

1069
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 3: league average, so he's in the right environment. I mentioned

1070
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 3: the marine layer as well two stifle homers, which are

1071
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 3: really the only problem that Pavetta has. I know only

1072
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 3: pitched one hundred and forty five and one hundred and

1073
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 3: forty three innings the two years before that. That was

1074
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 3: not because of health, that was because of crappiness. He

1075
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 3: got taken out of the rotation one year and he

1076
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 3: was a hybrid pitcher. The other year he had relief

1077
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 3: and starting. So he's actually been a bit of a

1078
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: workhorse these last five years, with at least one hundred

1079
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 3: and forty innings in all five of them, and would

1080
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 3: have been able to go thirty plus starts if he

1081
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 3: had been pitching well. Finally had the breakout season at

1082
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: age thirty two, is on an organization that I think

1083
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 3: sustains pitching development very well, a high quality team. I

1084
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: don't see why he can't do something very similar to

1085
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 3: last year with an elevated era. I'm going to put

1086
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 3: in the home and regression, bring the ERA up to

1087
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 3: like three point thirty, but still get a grid one

1088
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: ten to one fifteen, whip a boatload of k's and

1089
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 3: a ton of win opportunity. I have no problem with

1090
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 3: where Nick Pavetta is going. He's as good as any

1091
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 3: of the guys around him and a few of the

1092
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 3: guys going ahead of him.

1093
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: Does the bad Spring wear you at all?

1094
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: Not really, let me see the makeup of that, not.

1095
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 2: Especially exactly what you don't want to see. It's a

1096
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 2: lack of strikeouts and a ton of lofts.

1097
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just all bad. But the velo is the same.

1098
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: I don't know what he's working on, and absent that,

1099
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 3: I'm just not going to make any judgment on it.

1100
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: If the Villo was down, I would go investigate. But

1101
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 3: it's awful. There's nothing good about these eight innings except

1102
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,400
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1103
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,880
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1104
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1106
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,400
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1107
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,240
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1108
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Speaker 1: the prosecution here of Nick Pavetta and why people might

1150
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: want to stay away from him at the current ADP.

1151
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 2: It's an insane ADP. It's just so it pretty much

1152
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 2: says he's going to repeat what he did last year,

1153
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 2: and I just don't see that being a possibility. Like

1154
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: Paul said, that home run rate is going to regress.

1155
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: I mean, he had a home run to fly ball

1156
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: rate of under ten percent. He's a career fifteen percent guy.

1157
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 2: Even if you want to say, like hey, you know,

1158
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 2: being in San Diego, he can keep it like twelve

1159
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: thirty percent. He's gonna give up more home runs. I

1160
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 2: just don't understand why people are paying this kind of

1161
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 2: a price. I mean, both guys we already talked about, right,

1162
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 2: even if you want to use the fantasy pros ADP.

1163
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: We talked about Nolan McLain, who I love. We talked

1164
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: about Emmett she and who Paul loves. Nick Pavetta's going

1165
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 2: ahead of all of them.

1166
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 3: I also don't know how good Oh.

1167
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: Really in the nf that's kind of insane. Tells you

1168
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: what NFBC really is doing with yes, Yes, doing the

1169
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: young pictures. I just think that you look at the

1170
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: projections for Nick Pavetta, and look on the ones that

1171
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: are on the screen right now. I won't even go

1172
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: over to fan Grass and pull up their projections. You know,

1173
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: they all pretty much have him as a high threes

1174
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: e R A picture. Yeah what fifteen whip is good.

1175
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: It's not amazing, but it's who whoa whoa? What is

1176
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 2: wrong with you today?

1177
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 3: A lot? But it is amazing. If you say something wrong,

1178
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna fix it.

1179
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: Keep your mouth shut while I speak, sir, No, I

1180
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: can't do that. I know you can't. That's why I

1181
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 2: love you. But uh yeah, three ninety e R. You

1182
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: just usually can't take him this high with those kind

1183
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: of projections unless you feel like he's going to massively Obviously,

1184
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 2: Paul does. I have much greater concerns that it's going

1185
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: to regress in San Diego this year. I'm not as

1186
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 2: worried as I was about the innings. I think Paul, uh,

1187
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: you know, outlined the reasons why he did move between

1188
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 2: like the bullpen. He you know, he also dealt with

1189
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 2: some injury, a little bit of injury I believe in

1190
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, but nothing major. We saw health last year,

1191
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 2: so I'm less worried about the innings concern and more

1192
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: worried about a massive regression back to being like a

1193
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 2: four e RA guy, which is what he was pretty

1194
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: much every year of his career until last season. Last

1195
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 2: season two eighty seven ERA, but a three ninety seven

1196
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 2: X cra a three eighty five X fit. I think

1197
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: that era regresses and you lose a lot of that value.

1198
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: He's just going way too high.

1199
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 3: If he fits this. If he goes to this projection

1200
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 3: for pavena three ninety ERA one fifteen whip one hundred

1201
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 3: and eighty four k's where do you think that puts

1202
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 3: him as a pitcher? Just eyeball like generally thinking twenty seventh. Well,

1203
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 3: if you think that that would be twenty seventh, why

1204
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 3: wouldn't you draft them outage?

1205
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 2: Okay, you have eighteen and you're starting pitcher. Rakes is

1206
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 2: what we're talking about, right.

1207
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 3: I'm just saying you went too high there. You kind

1208
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 3: of made my case, But no, it's it's not quite

1209
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 3: that high. If he reaches those projections, it's more in

1210
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: the forties. To give you, the best comp I could

1211
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 3: find from last year was Robbie Ray one hundred and

1212
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 3: eighty two innings, eleven wins, three sixty five. Hang on,

1213
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 3: if you would shut the absolute hell le So the

1214
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 3: one twenty one whip that Ray had, obviously you're getting

1215
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 3: seven points better, and so it's not one to one

1216
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 3: and Ray was forty first. That's Pavetta's projection. That's just

1217
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 3: you know, that's kind of your median. If I'm paying

1218
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: a top twenty starter price for somebody that I think

1219
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 3: their their median projection is going to put them at

1220
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 3: like Pitcher thirty five, I don't have a problem with that, right,

1221
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 3: because you're not paying for the exact price that you're getting. Otherwise,

1222
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 3: why the hell would you pay for mcquin because you

1223
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 3: have no sir, anywhere you're knee or certainty that he's

1224
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 3: going to be a top thirty.

1225
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 2: Pitch and you're going to get profit. I just don't

1226
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: know where the profit is.

1227
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 3: I don't think you are almost paying to get prop

1228
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, is that your.

1229
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: Right, gentlemen, and gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen.

1230
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 3: Profit versus certain I don't think profit is always the

1231
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 3: reason to take somebody the certainty of his projection. Oh

1232
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 3: my god, the gavel broke the gavel rejection is why

1233
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 3: you're paying that premium. The Whip is bankable, Yes, the

1234
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 3: era is a risk. I will grant that, but I

1235
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 3: still think he's draftable over sea or playing for sure.

1236
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: Let's get some order here now, there's no statute of limitations.

1237
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm going back and look at stats. So I decided

1238
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: to pull some stuff up here a little bit too,

1239
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: just to see, just out of morbid curiosity, what Nick

1240
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: Pavetta's twenty twenty five spring looked like before we got

1241
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: into such good stuff going on with Nick Povetta, and

1242
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: it was much better. Four stars thirteen innings spring doesn't

1243
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: matter except he was strucking out seventeen guys in the

1244
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: thirteen innings and just seven walks there point nine to

1245
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: eight whip there a three point three eight era, so

1246
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: he was sharp right from the beginning last year. I'm

1247
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: wondering if maybe the wear and tear of that season

1248
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit taking its toll on a guy

1249
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: that isn't used to just be a starter out of

1250
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: the gate all the time. I a little bit of

1251
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: concern with that. I do like the ballpark factor. That

1252
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: is a positive. As he continue to weigh all the

1253
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: pros and cons here, I got to ask you this question,

1254
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna hang here. You know you

1255
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: mentioned about bringing in innings and how you think he's

1256
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: gonna bring an There's a guy, Kevin Gosman going a

1257
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: little bit later than him, who just basically gives you

1258
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: thirty starts every single year since twenty twenty one, thirty one,

1259
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: thirty one, thirty one, thirty one, and thirty two last year.

1260
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: He bitches on a great team. Why would I want

1261
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: to go ahead and take Nick Pavetta when I could

1262
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: just wait around or two and take Kevin Gospin? Can

1263
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: you can you tell me? Sell me on that or

1264
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: or with the upside of a guy like my dude

1265
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: Uri Perez, who also is going after Nick Pavetta in

1266
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: that same realm. Those are two guys that I think

1267
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: I would be targeting if I wanted somebody just you

1268
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: know that I could rely on, versus somebody that I

1269
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: think is huge upside, as opposed to Poveda, who had

1270
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: a very good season but not a lot to back

1271
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: it up in terms of his history. Sell me on that,

1272
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: pause sport before I make my final decision.

1273
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I think his history does back it up, though,

1274
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: more from the whip perspective the era. This is what

1275
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying about overvaluing the guy, undervalue the guys that

1276
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: have great whip but bad era. It is an era risk,

1277
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 3: but that's the same thing that you're drafting with Gosman.

1278
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 3: He's been at three eighty three and three fifty nine

1279
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 3: the last years. There's some risk there with his era

1280
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 3: to not be so fantasy relevant, but he's also thirty

1281
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 3: five versus thirty two, so give me the three years.

1282
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 3: I'd call the teams a wash. Toronto and San Diego

1283
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 3: both great teams, going to put you in position to win,

1284
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 3: but the albast is probably more difficult than the NL West. Yes,

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00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: the Dodgers are there, but it's every team in the Albast.

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00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 3: You at least get some reprieve out in the West,

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00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 3: especially against the Giants who would root for them. Lame.

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00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 3: But anyway, with Gosman, it's just the older guy that

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00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 3: I have some concerns with, and that splitter has been

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00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 3: a bit in and out look at sort of the

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00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 3: babbage that he put up when he first started over there.

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Speaker 3: I don't mind Gosman. I think that's a fair pivot

1293
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 3: if you didn't want to pay the premium a Paveda.

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00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 3: But I think they are kind of one and the

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00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 3: same there, and I'll just take the guy who's three

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00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 3: years younger.

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Speaker 1: All right, Looking at the numbers as Paul Spores asked

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00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: me to do to spite all those whips that were

1299
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 1: so good, the one one two six one two one,

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01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: they also are accompanied by eras, both over four. Therefore,

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01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: this court is going to rule in favor of Justin

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01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: Mason on this. When we were going to avoid Nick

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01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: Pavetta at his current age, this wasn't enough. There too

1304
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: many other sexy pitchers like Nola McLain and Urie Perez,

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01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: and then of course some boring guys. I mean, heck,

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01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: even Sunday Gray every year strikes out, like I can I.

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01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 3: Say one thing against against myself, your honor with Pavetta.

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01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 3: He is part of one of the worst picture classes

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01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 3: to buy, which is the guy off the breakout.

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Speaker 1: Ye, like, that's a big part of it too. And

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01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: he's not young. Had he been twenty eight not thirty three.

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Speaker 1: I feel much differently in practice about Trevor Rodgers than

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01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: I do about Nick Pavett in terms of what I

1314
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: see last.

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Speaker 2: If he was going where he was going last year,

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01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: which was like pick one eight, I'd be all in.

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01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 3: I was all, yeah, he wouldn't do.

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01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,479
Speaker 1: I mean the difference. I think that's like.

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01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah something, how much.

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01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 2: Right? Like you a good whip too?

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01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 3: That counterpoint, why.

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01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 2: Not probably later?

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01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 3: That is the counter to uh. I totally agree with that.

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01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: Excellent work, gentlemen. As always expect nothing less than the

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01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: sleeper and the bus boys. And of course, if you

1326
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Speaker 1: want more debates on these, or you got opinions, you

1327
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: could always drop them in the comments below. Who are

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01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: you drafting? Who are you avoiding? I like we do

1329
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: these deep dives. We did an hour on five players

1330
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: and it went by like that, and I love that

1331
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: because it's some great debate and some good old fashioned

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Speaker 1: arguing back and forth. And as an Italian, there's nothing

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01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: I like to do more than argue and listen to

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01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: other people argue. It's a beautiful thing. Although I'm still

1335
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: in morning after Italy lost.

1336
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 3: Yesterday rematching tonight how.

1337
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: It was a hell of a run boys.

1338
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 3: He I went to Houston, I saw your boys on

1339
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 3: Saturday against why.

1340
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: Electric And let it be known to this is what

1341
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: happens when you also have tickets that are moderately priced.

1342
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: You get everybody in the ballpark who's super excited to

1343
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: be there to the Gils now tonight. I believe it's

1344
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: like three hundred dollars a ticket to get to the finals.

1345
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 3: So of course, still I.

1346
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: Change a little bit. I would still go, but let

1347
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: that be a lesson. Major League Baseball's working them ticket

1348
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: prices a little bit in the playoffs. Let's get these

1349
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: places back rocking and rolling, because you want to get

1350
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: the real fans in there, who got the real passion for.

1351
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 3: They might have a twenty dollars ticket, but they're still

1352
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 3: going to buy the freaking twenty five dollars hot dog, right.

1353
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: They'll buy three hot dogs.

1354
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 3: Have more money in their pockets exactly, especially the team's.

1355
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: Losing, they'll buy more beers hot dogs and just bury

1356
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: their sorrows. Gentlemen, excellent work. I think both of you

1357
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: should continue to practice law. Perhaps maybe even you know,

1358
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: do a little h you know, maybe past the bar

1359
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: in some of your respective states. We'll see if you

1360
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: can do that, and it'll backup job. Maybe the office.

1361
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 3: I'd be in contempt way too often.

1362
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1363
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 3: When the show.

1364
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be a bit problem, but we're very

1365
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: grateful for you guys joining us today once again, don't

1366
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: forget subscribe to the channel. Drop your comments below. You

1367
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: could win the big Belt. We love having Mason and

1368
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 1: Spore here, and go check out their show too. I

1369
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: know they just came off with the big tout Wars

1370
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: drafts this weekend. A lot going on, so they got

1371
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: great content. Go listen to their shows. Go watch their

1372
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Speaker 1: shows too so you can get ready for all of

1373
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: your drafts over the next two weeks. That'll do it

1374
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: for us, But the story of the game goes on

1375
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: from Maazing and Paul Sports, I'm Judge, Joey. We'll see

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01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:19,000
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