1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:00,880 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 2: I am six forty. 3 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 3: You're listening to the John Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 3: We are on from one until four o'clock every day, 5 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 3: and then after four o'clock John Cobel Show on demand. 6 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 2: That's the podcast. 7 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 3: And if you're just joining us on the podcast, if 8 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 3: you missed the first hour, we had Joel Pollock on 9 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 3: opinion editor of the incoming California Post. 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Now, 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: we are going to talk with Jeremy Padawer this minute. 18 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 3: He along with Spencer Pratt, have organized a demonstration tomorrow. 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: It's entitled They Let Us Burn, and more than a 20 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: thousand people have already rsvped to attend. There's no tickets 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: or anything, but they just wanted to know what the 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: size of the crowd is, so they let us burn 23 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: dot com is the website you can read about it. 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: They're gonna have it in the Palisades Village ten thirty 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: in the morning, and they're gonna have speakers there at 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: residents and politicians, and it's at the Let me get 27 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 3: the right corner here and then we're gonna get Jeremy on. 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on? What did they do with it? Ah? 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 3: Here it is the corner of Antioch and Swarthmore. All right, 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 3: ten thirty tomorrow morning, let's get Jeremy padawer on. How 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: are you hey, I'm good. It's good to talk to you. 32 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: I'm glad to talk to you once again. Yeah, it 33 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: is good to have you on. There's a lot of 34 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: retrospectives already about the fire from a year ago, and 35 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: very little coverage of all the massive mistakes, all the 36 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: huge neglect, just criminal stuff in these media reports. I'm 37 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: going to go through some of them later. I mean, 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: it's got to be awfully frustrating when you can't seem 39 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: to find many media outlets that want to tell the 40 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: truth about how this happened, you know, the terrible lack 41 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: of preparation, the terrible execution in fighting the fire, and 42 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 3: then the complete disaster that the rebuild process has been. 43 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 4: Yes, that's all. That's all very accurate. It's been incredibly frustrating. 44 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 4: And I would say as deep of a cut as 45 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 4: that fire was, and the realization that there was a 46 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 4: lack of prevention, precaution, bad policy and aptitude, gross negligence 47 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 4: and all of that, as deep as that cut is, 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 4: and seeing your neighbors hurt, the cut has even been 49 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 4: deeper post fire because of the gas lighting and misdirection 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 4: that has been coming from our leadership in a very 51 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: coordinated way and seeping into the media. 52 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: So sure, I. 53 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 4: Would I would certainly say that the emotions that I'm 54 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 4: feeling and our community is feeling today, our frustration, anger, aggravation, 55 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 4: and and I would say some hopefulness. I mean the 56 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 4: fact that we're able to go out there and demonstrate 57 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: using the American ideal of free expression and freedom of 58 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: speech and doing so without worrying that we're going to 59 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 4: lose our place in society or our jobs. That's comforting. 60 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 4: I'm glad that our government allows for that. 61 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: Do you have anybody on your side when it comes 62 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: to the government, And I. 63 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 4: Mean, well, let's put it this way. But the Army 64 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 4: Corps of Engineers had a very fast cleanup of the debris. 65 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 4: They are a federal agency. On the state and city side, 66 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: it has not been very good. And I also want 67 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 4: to just express that none of this is coming from 68 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 4: ideal perspectives. Most of us are independents or Democrats, some 69 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 4: of us are Republicans. But the truth of the matter 70 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: is this is based on operational grounds alone. The city 71 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 4: and the state, they made a tremendous number of errors. 72 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: We can litigate through that during the course of this conversation. 73 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 4: But then afterwards again, no, they haven't been on our side. 74 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 4: They because being on our side means that they risk 75 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: they put themselves in the risk of liability. They put 76 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 4: themselves in the risk of not being able to perpetuating 77 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 4: their political careers. And unfortunately, they're in business for themselves 78 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 4: and not for the people. 79 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: And they hold to that. 80 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 3: Even with twelve deaths and seven thousand homes destroyed, and 81 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: all the suffering and all the mayhem that followed, they 82 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: still are stonewalling, lying, covering up every you probably saw, 83 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: I'm sure in the Times over the Christmas break, there 84 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 3: were several articles about the fire department covering up its 85 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 3: own investigation. 86 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: Sure, no, absolutely no, this is coordinated. This is a 87 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 4: systematic cover up. And I believe the La Times even 88 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 4: requested Mahribas's texts days after the fire, and somehow they 89 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: were on a thirty day auto delete in the most 90 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 4: critical time perhaps in LA mayorial history. Yeah, she had 91 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 4: her text on an auto delete. Recently, the governor was 92 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 4: asked for anything that was responsive to Pacific Palisades in 93 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: the January time frame of last year. He said, there's 94 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 4: no results that are responsive. Apparently neither of them talked 95 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 4: about it at all in texts and phone calls. There 96 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 4: was just no discussion about this topic. 97 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: Fire. What fire? 98 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: There was? 99 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly that look and I have to tell you 100 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 4: it's offensive, right like it's offensive it and again it's 101 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: offensive not on ideological grounds, it's offensive on operational grounds. 102 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 4: It makes you look in the mirror and go Not 103 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 4: only did they not only did they on their own terms, 104 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 4: burn us down and I and again I'm not going 105 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 4: to say purposefully, I follow the gross negligence category. I 106 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 4: fall ineptitude category. But now they're going to now they 107 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 4: believe that we're this dumb a group of people that 108 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 4: are you know, that have done okay, that are that 109 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 4: are good critical thinkers, and they're going to treat us 110 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 4: like we are incredibly in ft ourselves. 111 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 3: The the revelations from the La Times, from the UH depositions, 112 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 3: from the text messages they've uncovered. 113 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: The Roger Bailey. 114 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: The attorney for many of the plaintiff's Palisades homeowners, it 115 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 3: indicated that, like the original sin, there was obviously not 116 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: completely putting out the January first Lockman fire when the 117 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: ground was still hot and smoldering and smoking, and the 118 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 3: tree stumps and the rocks were hot, and the Alley 119 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: Fire Department gets pushed off the land by the State 120 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: park reps and rolled up their hoses and went home. 121 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: I mean, everything goes back to that moment, the day 122 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: after January first. 123 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 4: That's entirely accurate, and I'm glad you said it. It 124 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 4: gives me the opportunity to not have to say it again. 125 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 4: That's exactly right. The origin of this is state malfeasance, okay, 126 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: and it starts there. The city reacted to a report 127 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: that the state had written the Tapangas something report that 128 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 4: are basically laid out that you cannot do certain things 129 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: in terms of mitigating a fire in this area, this 130 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: Lochman area, because of a weed, a shrub, the milk 131 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 4: fetch weed. Now what the hell is a milk fetch weed? 132 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 4: Let me tell you. It is a weed that occurs 133 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 4: naturally after for fire. But somehow this milk vetch weed 134 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 4: is considered endangered in and of itself, which I would 135 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 4: say is a good thing. Right. You don't want to 136 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 4: have a weed that's associated with previous fires anyway, because 137 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: that means that you have to perpetuate fires. Well, for 138 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 4: whatever it's worth. They here's what they did. The fire 139 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 4: begins on one one. They address the fire in their minds. 140 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: But the rule book for them is that in this 141 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: protected area you cannot drop fire retardant from above. You 142 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: cannot come in with bulldozers or mud the fire get 143 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 4: under it in any way because it will disturb the 144 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: milk vetch. And third, the other rule is if you 145 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 4: can't do those two things, then do thermal imaging. They 146 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 4: didn't do. And then, fourthly, if you're not gonna do 147 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 4: thermal imaging, at least have humans there to observe it 148 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 4: for a while. They didn't do that either. As a result. 149 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 4: And I don't know if you've seen this overnight. There's 150 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 4: video that broke yesterday, actually left night. I have it 151 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 4: on my Instagram right now at Jeremy Pittauer where there 152 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: is smoke billowing at eight thirty seven am after city left, 153 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 4: after they were told to leave. If they had just 154 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 4: gone a few more steps, they would have found it themselves. 155 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: And this is what day. 156 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 4: This is on the first. I'm sorry, yeah, this would 157 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 4: be on the first. 158 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: That is cor on the first. 159 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, lets me put this out. It could have 160 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 4: all ended. It would have all ended if the state 161 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 4: didn't have such a bizarre way to address something that 162 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 4: I don't think anybody's ever thought about as being an 163 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 4: important part of our ecosystem, ecological system. And the city 164 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 4: had just said, you know, let's stick with this. 165 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: A little bit longer. 166 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 4: Let's look around to make sure. And by the way, 167 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 4: the thermal imaging, there's also thermal imaging images that were 168 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 4: done by private individuals that show hot spots everywhere. They 169 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 4: left hot spots everywhere, They left smoking billowing tree stumps 170 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: with hot with rocks hot to the touch, and that's 171 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 4: a quote. And they left us to burn. They let 172 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 4: us burn that's the name. 173 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: Of the rally. 174 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 3: So they abandoned putting out the original fire because of 175 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: pressure from the state parks reps over these milk fetch plants. 176 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 4: That's right. And not only pressure, but a written out document, 177 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 4: a procedural document that basically said here's what you can 178 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 4: and cannot do in these affected areas. They laid it out. 179 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 4: It's it's written in plain like, there's nothing to interpret. 180 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 3: Jeremy hang on the line, right, can you stay with us? 181 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: Jeremy paddlework and he is one of the organizers of 182 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: the rally Tomorrow, the demonstration they let us burn, and 183 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: that's going to be in Palisades Village, Pacific Palisades on 184 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: the corner of Antiocritus Worth more More with Jeremy Paddawer 185 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: coming up. 186 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 187 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 5: six forty. 188 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 3: Follow us at John Cobelt Radio and social media at 189 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,359 Speaker 3: John Cobelt Radio on all the platforms, but for YouTube, 190 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 3: if you want to subscribe to our YouTube videos, and 191 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 3: we're putting segments up after the show almost every day. 192 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 3: It's YouTube dot Com slash at John Cobelt's show, So 193 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 3: you subscribe by going to YouTube dot com, slash at 194 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: John Cobelt Show and you'll get notifications when we put 195 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: up another segment for all the other media social media platforms. 196 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: It's at John Cobelt Radio. And we continue now with 197 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: Jeremy Padawak because this is this week is the anniversary 198 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: of the Palisades Fire, and Jeremy and Spencer Pratt have 199 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: organized this demonstration tomorrow. They let Us Burn is the 200 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: title of it. More than a thousand people have already 201 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: RSVP to attend. You can go to they let Usburn 202 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: dot com and they have a link there to RSVP. 203 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, have to RSVP, but they just 204 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 3: want to keep track of the crowd, know what kind 205 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 3: of what they're going to have to deal with. And 206 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: it is about the terrible preparation, the terrible response, the 207 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: terrible aftermath to the Pacific Palisades Fire, which is just it's, 208 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: I don't know how numb everybody's got to be in 209 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 3: the Palisades by now, Jeremy, I mean, it's difficult to 210 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: sustain your emotional resilience when something like this goes on 211 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: for twelve months and there doesn't seem to be any. 212 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: End in sight. 213 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 4: That is a very accurate description. Numb is the right 214 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: way to say it. And I'll just say this, A 215 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 4: lot happens over twelve months. I mean I have friends 216 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: whose marriages have ended, who have had illness in their family, 217 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 4: who've had job change. I mean, life still goes on. 218 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 4: Everything else in life still happens, except you're paying a 219 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 4: mortgage and a home that has burned to the ground 220 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 4: because of a city and state, and you're still paying 221 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 4: property tax, and you're still paying everything else as if 222 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 4: that home still there. 223 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 2: They still are charging property tax. 224 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: Wow. 225 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 4: Yes, now what we're what we're communicating is a vision 226 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 4: for the rebuilt that will bring as many human beings 227 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 4: back as possible. And it has ten imperatives. And one 228 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 4: of those imperatives is a less diabolical property tax assessment. 229 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: I would they have that. 230 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: You should get a Yeah, there should be a break 231 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 3: for everybody on the property tax at least for a while. 232 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 4: Well let me let me how about this. I love math, 233 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 4: and four of the ten imperatives are math oriented. We 234 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 4: live in a place that is not as math oriented. 235 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 4: It's taken them a full year, in fact, to even 236 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 4: figure out how to reduce permit fees because they can't 237 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 4: get their head around that budget, which is ridiculous. But 238 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 4: in terms of property tax okay, when your house burns down, 239 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 4: the local municipality has a choice in terms of what 240 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 4: to do. What ours has done is said, look, if 241 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 4: your house is gone, you're not paying for your house anymore, 242 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 4: but you are paying for the land. You're paying for 243 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 4: the land at what we consider the current value. However, 244 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 4: as you build back your house as the percentage that 245 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 4: is done on the first of January every year, that 246 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 4: is the percentage of your house that you need to 247 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 4: pay us in property taxes. That is wrong, that is 248 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: not reasonable. So for instance, if I have thirty percent 249 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 4: of my home built back on January first, twenty twenty seven, 250 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 4: they want thirty percent of that home's final value. If 251 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 4: it's eighty percent on January one, twenty twenty eight, they 252 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 4: weren't eighty percent of that home's value. That is how. 253 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: They're doing it. 254 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: That to me is very very bad taste. Not only 255 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 4: that not only didn't bad taste, but on the flip 256 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 4: side of all of this, because they forced people into 257 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 4: a situation where so many people have to move and 258 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 4: other folks will come in who were not harmed to 259 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 4: this level, the amount of money that they take in 260 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 4: property taxes seven to ten years from now will be 261 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 4: portunately higher. They could handle cutting people a little bit 262 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 4: of a break, but they don't do it. 263 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: That is abusive. 264 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: That is absolutely an abusive, mean, nasty policy for people 265 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: who have suffered way too much already. 266 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and guess what that one's That one pales in 267 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 4: comparison to the next one. I'm going to tell you, 268 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 4: so go ahead, So, yeah, you're ready. State taxes are 269 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: applicable to the entire rebuild. So, for instance, in the Palisades, 270 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 4: I think it's going to cost roughly twenty billion dollars 271 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: to rebuild the the residences in the Palisades, and about 272 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: fifteen billion dollars in Altadena, so thirty five billion dollars. 273 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 4: They are fully willing to accept the ten percent in 274 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 4: state and local taxes on that entire thirty five billion 275 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 4: dollars spend. There is currently no plan whatsoever to reduce 276 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 4: taxes on statean local based on the rebuild. 277 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: This is the only thing that they do well. They 278 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: couldn't fill up the reservoir, they couldn't position the fire 279 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: trucks the night before the winds, they couldn't put out 280 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 3: the fire at a reasonable and a reasonable amount of time, 281 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: and on and on and on. None of that. They 282 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: found that everything every level of government fail. Well, they 283 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 3: did save the milk vetch plan, I guess for a few. 284 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 4: Days, and milk vetch is in great shape. 285 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 286 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 4: In addition to the milk vetch being in great shape, 287 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: they're going to take in three and a half billion 288 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 4: dollars so they can care for the milk fetch because 289 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 4: they prioritize plants over people. But those are two things 290 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 4: for us. One of the ten priorities is no sales 291 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 4: tax in the rebuild state or city. Another priority is 292 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 4: do not charge us to move back into our homes 293 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 4: until we have a certicate ticket of occupancy. 294 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 295 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: Comes to the dwelling tax, Yeah, there shouldn't be a 296 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: property tax until you can use the property. They charge 297 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: you thirty or eighty percent of the of the tax 298 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: because you have thirty to eighty percent of the lot rebuilt, 299 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: but you can use zero zero percent of it. 300 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: So that's outrageous. 301 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 3: God, they really are abusive, awful people. 302 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'll give you one more, and I'm talking 303 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 4: about the homes that have burned down. What about the 304 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 4: person who has a home that is toxic, they can't 305 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 4: move in. Their insurance has certainly not done them any 306 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 4: favors because there's enough ambiguity where the insurance goes, Oh no, 307 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: your home is fine, but you know nobody else has 308 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 4: moved in on your block yet, and it's radioactive in 309 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 4: terms of what it's testing. Your property tax is relatively 310 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 4: unchanged to the pre fire tax because it did not 311 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 4: burn down. Those people are paying full property tax. They 312 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 4: have no accessibility to their homes. 313 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I know people who've gone through that. It's it's 314 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 3: just all of it's terrible. Well, Jeremy, you're gonna have 315 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 3: a big crowd tomorrow. You got a lot of facts 316 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: and a lot of emotions built up, and we're gonna 317 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: come there by the way, I'll probably show you tomorrow. 318 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 3: It's ten thirty tomorrow in the Palesades Village, the corner 319 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 3: of Antioch and Swarthmore. They let us Burn is the 320 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 3: name of the demonstration. We're gonna be talking to as 321 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: many people as we can and then play back some 322 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 3: of those interviews on tomorrow afternoons program. So I'll see 323 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: you tomorrow, Jeremy, Good luck with everyone. All right, thank you, 324 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 3: Jeremy Patterer, one of the organizers of They Let Us 325 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 3: Burn the Everybody's got to come out because this is 326 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: I can't believe that there isn't an ounce of remorse 327 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: from anybody in government, not Bass, not Newsome, most of 328 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 3: the city council, none of the bureaucrats. 329 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: No remorse at all. 330 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 3: They're not just grabbing people by the back of the 331 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 3: neck and grinding their heads into the ground, demanding more money, 332 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 3: more tax. Well, everybody paid a lot of tax money 333 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 3: and you didn't even get basic fire coverage. We're gonna 334 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: have Steve Hilton coming on next. This is an all 335 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 3: star day. Steve Hilton, the Republican candidate for governor. He's 336 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: coming on to talk about the massive fraud that he 337 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 3: and his staff have. 338 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: Uncovered in Gavin Newsom's government. 339 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 5: That is, you're listening to John Cobels on demand from 340 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 5: KFI A six forty. 341 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 3: After four o'clock, The John Cobelt Show on demand And 342 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 3: if case you missed what we've done in the first 343 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 3: hour and a half, you should be doing. You should 344 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: be demanding the podcast. Later, we had Joel pollackah on 345 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 3: the Opinion editor for the California Post. We talked to 346 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 3: him the entire one o'clock hour because there's a new 347 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 3: major media outlet coming. It is the California Post, sister 348 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 3: publication of the New York Post, and they're going to 349 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 3: cover California news and politics and sports and culture, just 350 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: like the New York Post does for New York and 351 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: Washington DC. And it is really I keep calling it 352 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: an earthquake. That's what it is, because the rest of 353 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 3: the media is going to have to respond and they 354 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 3: are going to dig up all the dirt on what's 355 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 3: going on here in LA and in and Sacramento. We're 356 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 3: going to talk now with one of the top candidates 357 00:19:55,119 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: for governor, Republican Steve Hilton. Steve has a lot of 358 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: political experience, business experience, television experience, and we're gonna talk 359 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 3: to him right now because he is very high up 360 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 3: in the polls and he has done his own investigating. 361 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: He asked for whistleblowers, he came on our show some 362 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: weeks back, and whistleblowers have responded as to the hundreds 363 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 3: of well, well, we'll let Steve talk about the numbers, 364 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 3: but there is a lot of fraud going on in California, 365 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: just like Minnesota. Steve, welcome, how are you. 366 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm great. Happy new Year, John, great to be with you. 367 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 2: Happy new Year. 368 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a happy new year in California. You 369 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna kick these people out finally in November. That's 370 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's a few months away. This is part 371 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: of the story because when it gets to the heart 372 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: of that basic question, which is how is it possible 373 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: that we have the highest taxes in the country and 374 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: yet the worst outcomes are the worst results. We have 375 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: the gas tax and the worst roads. We have the 376 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 1: highest spending on welfare, but the highest poverty, on and on. 377 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: You look at everything they're doing. Where does the money go? 378 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: And this is the answer. And we talk about on 379 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: another exignt, you know, we spend the most on homelessness. 380 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: That goes up every year. Homelessness goes up every year. 381 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: So this is what we've got to get to the 382 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: bottom of. So this is not just you know, some 383 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: story that's popped up because of Minnesota and we're on 384 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: it for a few days. No, this is central to 385 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: how we save California. Is stopping the corrupt, fraudulent, wasting 386 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: and abuse of taxpayer money, because if you stop the 387 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: spending and the waste and the fraud and the corruption, 388 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 1: you can cut taxes. That means people's living standards go up. 389 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 1: It's not everything's not so expensive. And there's ahole other 390 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: set of stuff we need to do, of course, to 391 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: bring gas prices down and rent all that stuff, But 392 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: a huge part of it is this bloated nanny state, 393 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: welfare state that they've built. So what we've done, exactly 394 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: as you said, about a month ago to the third, 395 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: we launched califraud dot com in the wake of the 396 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: Minnesota revelations because what was interesting about Minnesota was that 397 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: for years they have been whistleblowers the in state government 398 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: and local government in Minnesota, trying to alert people to 399 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: what was going on, and Tim Walls and the Democrat 400 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: machine tried to silence them and intimidate them. So I 401 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 1: said to myself, look, let's try and get those tories 402 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: out here. Obviously, I'm not yet the governor. I don't 403 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: have the power of audit and going in and stopping 404 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: the money, but let's make a start by trying to 405 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: at least identify the places and the areas where this 406 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: is happening. We've had hundreds of responses, as you said, 407 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: and so what we announced yesterday. When I say we, 408 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: it's me and a guy called Herb Morgan. Very important guy. 409 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: He's running for a very important position state Controller. It's 410 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: not you remember, it's not just about the governor's race 411 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: this year. We've got to elect Republicans at every level 412 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: and right across the board. State Controller has the power 413 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: of audit for any organization receiving state money, even a 414 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: dollar of state money. The state Controller can go in 415 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: and look at the books and stop the flow of money. 416 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: Really important. So Herb and I have been working together 417 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: on this. We launched califraud dot com a month ago. 418 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: Hundreds of tips we've been going through looking at the 419 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: areas that that identifies, putting that together with the scale 420 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: of spending the budgets in certain areas. What we already 421 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: know from audits that have been put out there, for 422 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: example by the state auditor on homelessness spending that was 423 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: twenty four billion fifty five billion loss through the Employment 424 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: Development Department. That's, by the way, where I did my 425 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: press conference with Herb yesterday outside the Employment Development Department 426 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: building in San Francisco to announce what we found, which 427 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: is that our preliminary investigation suggests to us that the 428 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: scale of the fraud in California is at least two 429 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty billion dollars two hundred and Yes, 430 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: Now I just want to be clear that is not 431 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: every year. That is basically the total that we think 432 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: that we can identify in the last few years. Really, 433 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 1: the simple way of thinking about this is this is 434 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: really the lockdowns and all of that, the forced lot. 435 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: I never want to say the pandemic, because it wasn't 436 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: the pandemic that did this. It was the lockdowns, which 437 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: were totally unnecessary and counterproductive, went on longer here than 438 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: anywhere else because of Newsom and so on. And then 439 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: what they did, they just opened this figure and massive 440 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: amounts of welfare spending ballooned the state budget in the 441 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: last ten In the last five years, nearly they've double. 442 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: In the last five years, they've nearly doubled. The state 443 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: budget doubled from about one hundred and eighty billion a 444 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: year to over three hundred and twenty billion a year 445 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: just in the last five years. That's what we're looking at, 446 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: and it's this massive splurge of spending around the lockdowns, 447 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: putting people on welfare, handing out money, and that's got 448 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: baked into the ongoing spending. It's become part of the 449 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: baseline of spending. That's why this is so important. And 450 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: so two hundred and fifty billion we think is just 451 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: the start. I mean, once we get in there and 452 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: open up the books, it could be a lot worse. 453 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: But what's helpful about this is that idea, just the 454 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: whistleblower tips have given us examples of the areas we 455 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: need to look at. Obviously, things like you see in 456 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: Minnesota with daycare and whatever, but actually here there's a 457 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: much broader range that has come to our attention. You've 458 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: got a big issue with public sector pensions and an 459 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: abuse of the pension system, retirement system for things like 460 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,239 Speaker 1: double dipping of pensions, spiking of pensions. You've got an 461 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: issue that was brought to our attention from the school 462 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: system from K through twelve, where where people are telling 463 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: us that there's a massive fraud going on where job 464 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: descriptions are changed in order to qualify for a higher salary, 465 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: but the work saves the thing, so it looks like 466 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: someone's been promoted gets a higher salary, but actually, in reality, 467 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: nothing's changed. Stuff like that that's going on contracting where 468 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, for buildings, and corruption in all of that 469 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: with roads and schools, and you know BART that we 470 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: had some tips about BART, the Bay Area rapid transportation 471 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: system and that got a huge amount of money in 472 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: the pandemic. And what's happened to that, no one knows. 473 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: They're now desperate for money. They want another tax increase 474 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: to pay for it. Look at our roads more generally 475 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 1: across the state, highest gas prices and gas taxes in 476 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: the country, the worst roads. Where does that money go? 477 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: There's and there's there's even more. I just I'll stop 478 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: there because I can talk endlessly about it. But here's 479 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: the point. This gives us a road map for finding 480 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: out what's been stolen and how we can stop it. 481 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 3: All right, let me stop you here and you can 482 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 3: stay on for another segment and we'll talk further. Okay, 483 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 3: this is Steve Hilton, one of the leading candidates running 484 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 3: as a Republican for governor, and he's at the top 485 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: of the polls and we'll continue our interview with him next. 486 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 5: You're listening to Sean Cobels on demand from KFI A. 487 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 3: Sixty moistline for Friday, eight seven seven moist eighty six. 488 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 3: You've heard a lot today eight seven seven moist eighty six. 489 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 3: Call and letter rip with all your ranting and ravings. 490 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 3: Talk back on the iHeartRadio app is another way you 491 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 3: can also contact us and leave your message. After three o'clock, 492 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 3: we're gonna have Roger Bailey on, one of the lead 493 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 3: attorneys for one thousands of Pacific Palisades residents who he's 494 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: filed a massive lawsuit on behalf of the residence. And 495 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 3: he now has a new drone video showing smoke coming 496 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 3: from the exact location that the ATF confirmed the Palisades started. 497 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 3: And this is after the fire. A state park ranger 498 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 3: said she saw smoke and didn't report it. That's what 499 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: he's telling us, and we are going to tell you 500 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 3: all about that and more about the avoidance areas in 501 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: the wildlands near the Palisades, you know where that milk 502 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 3: vetch plant was lurking, and the orders that the Alley 503 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 3: Fire Department were under not to work on mopping up 504 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 3: the fire because there'd be damage done to the milk 505 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 3: vetch plant. 506 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: Let's continue with Steve Hilton right now. 507 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: Steve Hilton, one of the top candidates running for governor 508 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: as a Republican here in the state, and some weeks 509 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: ago he asked for whistleblowers. He had a hotline number, 510 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: and people responded, and he and Herb Morgan, who was 511 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 3: running for the state controller job, have teamed up and 512 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 3: they've identified potentially two hundred and fifty billion dollars in 513 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: fraud over in recent years under the Newsom administration. Two 514 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty billion dollars. Steve, you get in, what 515 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 3: are you going to do? You're going to run into 516 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: a lot of resistance in the bureaucracy and with the 517 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 3: Democrats still holding power in the legislature. I mean, we've 518 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: seen how much trouble Trump and his administration have run 519 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: into trying to reform the place. 520 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 2: There. What are you going to run into and how 521 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 2: are you going to deal with it? 522 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: So here's the This is why it's so important that 523 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm working with Herb, because that really is a control 524 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's a financial control position. And we're doing 525 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: the work now and getting ready and so we're going 526 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: to be And the other part of the good news 527 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: is that you do run the executive branch, you control 528 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: those agencies. You have the power to hire and fire people, 529 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: direct them with executive orders, and so there's a lot 530 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: that you can do. You can't do everything, You're right, 531 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: You'll have probably have. Look, we need to try and 532 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 1: break the supermajority. Now, I'm going to be working hard 533 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: to help elect Republicans into this, into the Assembly and 534 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: the State Senate so we can try and get rid 535 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: of the supermajority. But whatever, they'll still have dominant numbers 536 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: in the legislature. So you're right, it has to be 537 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: through executive action. But the state Controller has a lot 538 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: of power working with the governor and hopefully very strong 539 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: attorney general who can fight off the lawsuits. And that's 540 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: another reason that you know, right the start of this effort, 541 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: I've always said I want to do this as a team. 542 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: It's not just me, it's not just one job. It's 543 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: the team that can make all this happen. And actually, 544 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: you do like we don't have it. We laid out 545 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: the plan yesterday and people can read it at Steve 546 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: Hilton forgovernor dot com on my website, and we published 547 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: it actually the New York Post. You're just talking about 548 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: the California Post. I totally agree the huge, huge deal. 549 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: Jol is great and I'm in very close contact with them. 550 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: They did a story on our fraud investigation just yesterday 551 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: published our plan. We've got a Herb Morgan and I 552 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: laid out a specific plan for what we would do, 553 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: including a top to bottom audit which will have the 554 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: power to really open the books in the way that 555 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: Gavin I mean, here's another example of what they're trying 556 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: to cover this up. So just to be you know 557 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: that we know, we've heard that number for a few 558 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: years now. Twenty four billion dollars in homeless spending. Right. 559 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: That was an audit from the state auditor requested by 560 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: a Republican in the state legislature. They audited it, an audit, 561 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: and they looked at that and they said, there's twenty 562 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: four billion dollars in homeless spending that we can't account for. 563 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: We don't know where it went. So the legislature, even 564 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: with the Democrat supermajority, passed a bill requiring a detailed 565 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: audit of that spending to find out where that twenty 566 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: four billion dollars went. Newsome vetoed that bill, vetoed it, 567 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: and so the governor's got a lot of power to 568 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: actually put a red light or a green light for 569 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: this kind of investigation. We're going to have a top 570 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: to bottom investigation and for the past and for the future, 571 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: Herb Morgan and I have got a plan for real 572 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: time control of this spending, and the most important part 573 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: of that is transparency, so you will see the money 574 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: go out as it goes out. You can do that 575 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: using blockchain technology so that the payments are live in 576 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: real time. That is the kind of transparency that will 577 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: mean that you can find out where the money's going 578 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: and immediately start to see if it's made up, if 579 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: it bs fake services to fake people, or even for 580 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: fake services the real people for that matter, which is 581 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: what we saw going on in Minnesota, because this is 582 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: their business model right as I said earlier, they want 583 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: to expand the welfare state, get more and more people 584 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: on free stuff from the government. Then you've got a name, 585 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: then you've got a social Security number. Then you can 586 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: make up a fake invoice and start getting paid. That's 587 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: what's been going on, and we really can put a 588 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: stop to it if we get elected. That's why these 589 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: elections mean so much. I know that people are desponded 590 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: about California. Oh, nothing's going to change. Honestly, it really 591 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: will change if you put us in there, because we 592 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: are fired up about doing it, and we've done the 593 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: preparation work, so once we get there, we are ready 594 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: to go. 595 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 3: Steve, I want to keep talking with you over the 596 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 3: coming months. We've got the primary coming up in June, 597 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 3: so it's not that far away. Yeah, and you have 598 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: like such a thorough detailed analysis of a lot that's 599 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: gone wrong and also a detailed analysis on how you 600 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 3: can make things better. So I want to help you 601 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 3: get out that message as best we can. All Right, 602 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 3: appreciate it, all right, all right, Steve Hilton, talk to 603 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 3: you soon. Thanks for coming on and coming up. After 604 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 3: three o'clock, ever's going to do the news and then 605 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 3: we're gonna have Roger Bailey on Tomorrow is the anniversary 606 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 3: of the Palisades fire, and he found a new drone 607 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 3: video showing smoke coming from the exact location that the 608 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 3: ATF confirmed where the Palisades fire started. State park ranger 609 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 3: said she saw smoke at the same time, did not 610 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: report it. We've got new maps that he's given us 611 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 3: about how the Lockman fire was in an area there 612 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,239 Speaker 3: where the firefighters were told to avoid when they were 613 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 3: doing the mop up duty, and they had to protect 614 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 3: the milk vetch plant. 615 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 2: And they chose. 616 00:33:55,040 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: The milk vetch plant over everybody's home, and they chose 617 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 3: is it over human life? This is how fanatical these 618 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 3: environmental whack job activists are. They've embedded themselves in government. 619 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 3: And if you got a choice between twelve people dying 620 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 3: and saving the milk bench plant, they said, Eh, milkvetch plant, 621 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 3: that's more important. So we'll talk about that. I've also 622 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: got a clip another day. I got six hours worth 623 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 3: of show here, but we're gonna play a clip. CBS 624 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 3: interviewed Karen Bass about her reflections and regrets over the 625 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 3: Palistatees fire. You're gonna want to hear that as well. 626 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 3: A couple of stations did retrospective coverage on the fire. 627 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 3: Their stories came out today, and virtually nothing about the 628 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 3: litany of foul ups and competence and malfeasance on all 629 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 3: levels of state government. The massive failure of government hardly 630 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 3: given a mention in these stories from CBS and NBC four. 631 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 3: We'll talk more we come back. Jabber Mark Live the 632 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 3: CAFI twenty for our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to 633 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 3: The John Cobalt Show podcast. 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