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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stuff

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Speaker 1: I never told you production of iHeartRadio. And today we

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Speaker 1: have our promised follow up on AI, which is kind

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Speaker 1: of just our personal experiences that we've had lately because

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Speaker 1: it has really blown up since we talked about it,

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Speaker 1: which speaking of, you can see our past AI episodes

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Speaker 1: that we did, including our recent Monday mini where we

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Speaker 1: compare Chat GBT two different prompts on Chat GBT. Today

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Speaker 1: is April twenty first, twenty twenty three. I just just

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Speaker 1: put that in there. I also want to say there's

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Speaker 1: a lot going on in the world news wise. I

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Speaker 1: know there always is, but today is like a huge

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Speaker 1: day comesue abortion. Perhaps we'll see There's a lot going

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Speaker 1: on with the like LGBTQ stuff specifically, So we are

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Speaker 1: planning on talking about that, but right now we're kind

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Speaker 1: of waiting for something to happen and then we can

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Speaker 2: Waiting for so many things to happen.

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Speaker 3: We are, and I hate it.

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Speaker 1: I've been so stressed all day. Yeah, but I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about some things that I've experienced with

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Speaker 1: AI lately. I know, I know in the news it

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Speaker 1: was recently there's a lot of discussion around music and

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen and copyright around music, which was already

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Speaker 1: a mess. But I know there was that AI song

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Speaker 1: with The Weekend and Drake. It's Drake featuring the Weekend,

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Speaker 1: I think yeah, And.

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Speaker 2: I talked about it on our episode with Daily's like guys,

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Speaker 2: because Miles, who's the host of that, brought it up,

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Speaker 2: and then I have all these questions that he could

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Speaker 2: don't do this. He didn't say that to me, but

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Speaker 2: you could tell, like I'm asking way too many questions

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Speaker 2: about those because I'm like, wait, is this kind of

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Speaker 2: going to be like how actors are being used without

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Speaker 2: their permission because they didn't know that they had to

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Speaker 2: put this down off their contracts. Like we had this

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Speaker 2: auble discussion because like you know, when your technology exceeds it,

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Speaker 2: what happens. Music is a little better about infringement and

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Speaker 2: copywriting specific voices, tones and stuff, But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I also saw that BuzzFeed News laid off a ton

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Speaker 2: of people and one of the reasons is that we're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw I saw that too.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was thinking about that in terms of first

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Speaker 1: of all, that song is really good if you haven't

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Speaker 1: heard it, I was.

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Speaker 3: Kind of mad.

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Speaker 2: It was interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting, but it got pulled because people were

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Speaker 1: freaking out about it. And I there has been a

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Speaker 1: lot of concern, and you know, rightfully so in a

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Speaker 1: lot of ways. But I was thinking about it because

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Speaker 1: when we did that comparison of the podcast intros about

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Speaker 1: feminism that chat GPT wrote and we were saying, this

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Speaker 1: sounds kind of like a high schooler writing an.

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Speaker 1: I one thing we didn't talk about, but this whole

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Speaker 1: thing made me think about is you and I have

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Speaker 1: a huge library of ourselves talking for the Internet to

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Speaker 1: got kind of I had a little moment of panic

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Speaker 1: about well, now someone could use my voice.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, they really could. Yeah, especially for the well,

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Speaker 2: like the whole deep fake has been recently a thing,

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Speaker 2: so taking our images and then using that with our voices.

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Speaker 3: Ooh yeah, see now I'm passing on my concern to you.

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Speaker 1: Ah indeed, And I mean it's like you said there,

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Speaker 1: this has been a problem with deep fakes with actors

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Speaker 1: where you know, people didn't know they had to put

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Speaker 1: that in their contract. And then Disney, for example, owns

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Speaker 1: your whole image and all of your voice clips and

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Speaker 1: now it's you, but it's not you. It's not something

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Speaker 1: you agreed to, but they kind of own your face

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Speaker 1: and your voice. So I mean, it's not like it's

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Speaker 1: a new concern, but it's just a new it's like

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Speaker 2: Well now people losing jobs. Yeah, and we knew it

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Speaker 2: was coming, but this is quick. This seems very quick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I've heard so many different takes on that

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Speaker 1: then somebody else was like, I've never I've never gotten

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Speaker 3: I'm kidding from AI, Like, oh no, what I know, right,

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Speaker 1: But one of the reasons I wanted to talk about this,

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Speaker 1: I have I don't know if you've heard me say

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Speaker 1: it but I have started publishing some fan fiction lately.

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Speaker 2: What's the name of it.

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Speaker 3: No, it would be so easy to find it, really would.

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Speaker 1: I actually made a pretty obvious accidental mistake it revealing

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Speaker 3: That's amazing. It was really, really funny. It was like

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Speaker 3: I was doing a podcast outro. It was not good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I started noticing. I told I told

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Speaker 1: all of you that I've been having this kind of

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Speaker 1: like notification anxiety. And I got some of these reviews,

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Speaker 1: which largely have been very good, but you get an

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Speaker 1: email every time you get a review, and I got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of them that said, like, this particular service,

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Speaker 1: which you have to pay for, has detected that there

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Speaker 1: is AI. This is written by a lying author. They're false,

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: And then, because I've never seen this encountered this before,

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Speaker 3: You in this love star wars love story or that

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Speaker 3: are wrote how dare you?

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Speaker 1: But then I was like I couldn't click on their name,

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Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, either this is just some

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Speaker 1: automated chatbot or my conspiracy theory brain was like, what

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Speaker 1: if this is like AI. It's finding things and then

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Speaker 1: telling you you need to buy these other services, Like

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Speaker 1: what if they're working together, the AI detection service and

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Speaker 1: the AI But then I was like, is it true

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Speaker 1: I think it's a lie. No one could match my

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Speaker 1: beautiful writing store style, this very original Star Wars idea.

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Speaker 1: So that was happening, and then I've started to get

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Speaker 1: another thing that I think has to do with AI learning.

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Speaker 3: But I'll get these reviews that are not human beings.

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Speaker 3: I can say that for.

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Speaker 1: Sure, but it will say like it's like a Wikipedia entry,

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Speaker 1: and then it'll be like this character first was born

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Speaker 1: in the Clone Wars era this time and all of

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Speaker 1: this stuff, and I'm like, are you trying to learn

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Speaker 2: You're stealing in content.

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Speaker 1: Don't do it. It's very precious to be AI. So

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Speaker 1: it's just I'm glad I didn't panic. And now i

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Speaker 1: just mark those reviews as spam. I'm glad I didn't

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Speaker 1: engage in some kind of argument around it, but that

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Speaker 1: is something that I've noticed. And then I texted you.

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Speaker 1: But some people have been using AI to write fan

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Speaker 1: fiction or to edit it, which I still can't quite

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I've been told to use that for edis

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't know what that means. I

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Speaker 3: I can't figure that out.

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Speaker 1: If someone knows, please write in I because they'll one

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Speaker 1: of the As you know, they're like tags on fan fiction,

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Speaker 1: and one of them is now like beta read by AI,

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Speaker 3: Think, so some.

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Speaker 1: People are doing it and they are marking it, but

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Speaker 1: it's just interesting to see it.

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Speaker 1: And then you and I were talking about I hadn't

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Speaker 1: really heard about this, but people getting AI calls from

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Speaker 1: people posing as someone they know and kind of saying

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Speaker 1: like your loved one is in this dangerous situation, right.

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Speaker 2: Right, So essentially what happened was they took the number

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Speaker 2: because we know we can do that for Google copy.

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Speaker 2: You replicate a number and then say I've got your

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Speaker 2: person here. You need to send this much more money. Essentially,

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Speaker 2: it's like a fishing with aim and demanding ransom and

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Speaker 2: scaring the hell out of people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that is creepy.

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Speaker 2: Right. Well, now that you say that, and the fact

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Speaker 2: that we have our voices, what if they like they

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Speaker 2: use our voices to say, hey, I need money? And

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Speaker 2: now that I said the word money.

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Speaker 3: I think you've probably said it before here.

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Speaker 2: That's not good. To be fair, not many people are

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Speaker 2: just gonna outrighte give me money because that's not something

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Speaker 2: I ask. So if I call you to ask for money,

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Speaker 3: Okay, I got some calls. I need to go back

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Speaker 1: And then I was kind of thinking about this because

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Speaker 1: I was clearing out my voicemail and there was this

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Speaker 1: promotion that you, Samantha did to me first with the

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Speaker 1: newest screen movie Yes, where Gho's face would call you

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Speaker 2: I saw it on TikTok asper Usu and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I must do this immediately because you had just seen it,

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Speaker 3: Was how much fun? Okay? I was impressed though, because

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Speaker 1: Normally the EUI throws off technologies like that, but nope,

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Speaker 1: and it left a voicemail because after you did it,

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Speaker 1: and yes, you were the first and your returns that

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Speaker 1: are a bunch of people did it to me and so.

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Speaker 3: I just one of them left of it would leave

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Speaker 3: a voicemail. I kept it because I liked it. Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: But it shut down after that that weekend because it

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Speaker 3: I tried to do it to someone else and it

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Speaker 3: was like, nope, stop, it may be alone.

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Speaker 2: I'm murdering people.

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Speaker 3: Oh yep.

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Speaker 1: And that was one of the cool things, was I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's creepy, but as you said, the dumber said it

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Speaker 1: was from New York, which is where the movie takes place.

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Speaker 2: Yee.

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Speaker 1: Well, one other thing I want to mention, and this

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Speaker 1: I have right now, but also one thing I've learned

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to learn through fan fiction is I don't

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Speaker 2: Like like new phrases or new things specific to fan fiction.

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Speaker 1: New phrases. I'm just learning a lot. I'm learning a lot.

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