WEBVTT - Ep. 306: The Bird Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>Today's podcast is notably different from a typical documentary style

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<v Speaker 1>bear Grease that we usually put out every other Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>I was recently asked to be the keynote speaker at

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<v Speaker 1>the pheasant Fest banquet where we celebrated Quel Forever's twentieth anniversary.

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<v Speaker 1>And it might seem odd that they'd ask me to

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<v Speaker 1>speak because I don't own bird dogs or travel the

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<v Speaker 1>country wingshooting. But I'd like to share with you bear

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<v Speaker 1>Grease folks, a slightly elongated version, so it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>actual speech.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little bit longer, but I want to share.

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<v Speaker 1>That speech with you, and I think that you'll understand

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<v Speaker 1>after you hear it why they asked me to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say this story is deeply personal, and I titled

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<v Speaker 1>it The Bird Hunter.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Clay Nukem, and this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the bear Grease podcast where we'll explore things forgotten

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<v Speaker 1>but relevant, search for insight and unlikely places, and where

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<v Speaker 1>we'll tell the story of Americans who lived their lives

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<v Speaker 1>close to the land. Presented by FHF Gear, American made

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<v Speaker 1>purpose built hunting and fishing gear that's designed to be

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<v Speaker 1>as rugged as the place as we explore. I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you a story. On the morning of September fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, I awoke from a dream so vivid

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like that I'd actually been with him. When

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<v Speaker 1>I got up, I wrote down what I experienced. I

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<v Speaker 1>dated it, I told Misty about it, and actually called

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<v Speaker 1>my mom and dad. He had died on Christmas night

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirteen, but on that September morning, over ten years later,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like that I had actually seen him. The

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<v Speaker 1>man in the dream was a school teacher, a pastor,

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<v Speaker 1>and a bird hunter that I knew very well, and

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<v Speaker 1>the shadow and echo of his life has never left me.

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<v Speaker 1>And right now I'd like to tell you his story.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is one you've never heard of. Nothing was

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<v Speaker 1>ever written about him. There's no existing film of his

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<v Speaker 1>dog training, but the ripples of his life are still

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<v Speaker 1>in motion today in the eyes of his peers.

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps his life was mundane.

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<v Speaker 1>And normal, but it would never be disputed that his

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<v Speaker 1>life was nothing if not noble, disciplined, and others focused.

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<v Speaker 1>The man in my dream was Lewin Nukeom, known to

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<v Speaker 1>me as perhaps he was my grandfather, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>a bird hunter and a dog trainer deluxe. He lived

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<v Speaker 1>the life of dedication and passion for quell hunting until

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<v Speaker 1>the day he died, and his story is foundational to

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<v Speaker 1>my story because before I ever hunted a bear, deer,

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<v Speaker 1>or turkey or road of mule, I was, by default

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<v Speaker 1>of quell hunter, simply by blood. Some of my first

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<v Speaker 1>memories of engagement with wild places were overgrown fields with

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<v Speaker 1>long legged pointers leaving tracks in the frost. Bird dogs

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<v Speaker 1>and quall hunting would be the relational conduit that transferred

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<v Speaker 1>to me a value system that went far beyond the

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries of being a bird hunter. However, to think about

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<v Speaker 1>Lewin's life, that stood out to me that would come

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<v Speaker 1>to almost haunt me and inform the way that I

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<v Speaker 1>lived my life was how he spent the last thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five years of his life in silent grief as Bob

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<v Speaker 1>White quell populations near his home were.

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<v Speaker 2>Reduced to almost nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this story will be familiar to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people in America. Perhaps even into his late eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>he trained bird dogs and often hunted five days a

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<v Speaker 1>week with no intention of finding birds. I remember as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid being so impacted by watching paps that I

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<v Speaker 1>would pray for the quail populations, just even as a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't realize how much this impacted me until I

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<v Speaker 1>was an adult, and I didn't want the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>to happen to me with the wild beast that I loved.

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<v Speaker 1>But this story isn't a story of loss. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of incredible gain. And to understand his story and my story,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to take you way back, probably even back

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<v Speaker 1>a little further than you might think. My great great

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<v Speaker 1>great great great grandfather, Thomas Nukeomb came out of Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighteen thirties and settled in the east west

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<v Speaker 1>running ridges of the Washington Mountains of Arkansas. They'd settled

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<v Speaker 1>in Montgomery County in the community of Bumblebee, and Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>begat Thomas Joseph who begat Robert who begat, Oscar who

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen nineteen begat, Lewin Anderson Nukomb who begat Gary

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<v Speaker 1>Believer Nukom in nineteen forty eight. My dad, who begat

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<v Speaker 1>me and I was born approximately twenty three miles east

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<v Speaker 1>of Bumblebee in nineteen seventy nine, just barely in time

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<v Speaker 1>to overlap the fleeting glory days of the Southern Bob

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<v Speaker 1>White quail and the grand hunting culture that surrounded it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have recognized it at the time, but there

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<v Speaker 1>have been few wild beasts that have defined an era

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<v Speaker 1>of the American sportsman more than that little whistling bird.

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<v Speaker 1>But I for God to admit my relationship with mister

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<v Speaker 1>Bob White as complicated from me flow's massive respect even

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<v Speaker 1>all of the birds, but I found their presence on

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<v Speaker 1>the landscape irreplaceable. In their absence life altering, the flutter

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<v Speaker 1>of queill wings brings to me an uneasy feeling of

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<v Speaker 1>an eden lost. No other wild beast in my lifetime

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<v Speaker 1>has caused such heartache, which created in me a foundational

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<v Speaker 1>hegemon of the fragility of wild game, causing a gunshinness

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<v Speaker 1>to give my heart to any wild beast, especially a

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<v Speaker 1>dad gum ground nesting bird. But it sure didn't keep

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<v Speaker 1>Lewin from loving them or me. Lewin wouldn't have known it,

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<v Speaker 1>but the date of his birth would be consequential in

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<v Speaker 1>many ways. He spent his teenage years living through the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Depression, building an attitude of resilience, simplicity, and contentment

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<v Speaker 1>that would brand his life. He would turn twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>years old in nineteen forty one, precisely the time when

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<v Speaker 1>our country called for brave young men to arise, and

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<v Speaker 1>he responded to that call, joining the Navy, where he

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<v Speaker 1>led a team of seven men who operated a single

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<v Speaker 1>gun on an American battleship fighting in Okinawa and the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 1>We wouldn't know it until after Perhaps's death in twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>but he won a Bronze Star for heroism in action.

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<v Speaker 1>No one knows exactly what he did, but he once

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<v Speaker 1>told me with his own mouth that he was credited

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<v Speaker 1>with shooting down an enemy aircraft, but he completely left

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<v Speaker 1>the war medal out of the story. We found that

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<v Speaker 1>out after someone gave us a news clipping at his funeral.

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<v Speaker 1>But in a display of humility to a nine year

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<v Speaker 1>old boy, he confided in me that he wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 1>if he and his team actually had shot down the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't interested in stolen valor. He was mainly interested

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<v Speaker 1>in people and bird dogs. After the war, he moved

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<v Speaker 1>to Hot Springs, Arkansas, east of Bumblebee, and in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty three married my grandmother, Emmaline, known to me decades

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<v Speaker 1>later as Mimi. As many people did in these poor

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<v Speaker 1>soul othern states, they chose to leave to make a living, So,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Beverly Hillbillies, they loaded up and moved to

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<v Speaker 1>Port Chicago, California, in nineteen forty seven to find work.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in California in nineteen forty eight that my

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<v Speaker 1>father Gary was born. But it was also here that

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<v Speaker 1>something happened that would define Lewin's life more than the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Depression, the accolades of war or ground nests and birds.

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<v Speaker 1>In a revival meeting in the late nineteen forties, he

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<v Speaker 1>got saved and his life was radically transformed.

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<v Speaker 2>He looked and.

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<v Speaker 1>Acted different, and words spread about his experience to the

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<v Speaker 1>point that people literally just wanted to come meet paps

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<v Speaker 1>and look in his eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>After they heard his story.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know the details, but shortly after this

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<v Speaker 1>he believed that God communicated to him that he and

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<v Speaker 1>his family should move back to Arkansas, which he did,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a decision I'm forever grateful for nothing against California.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be in.

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<v Speaker 1>Arkansas that he would raise his family, be the first

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<v Speaker 1>in his lineage to go to college, and he'd become

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<v Speaker 1>a biology teacher at a public school, and in the

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<v Speaker 1>early nineteen fifties he became a Pastor Paps would be

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<v Speaker 1>known in his community as a man of impeccable integrity

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<v Speaker 1>who studied the Bible with passion and discipline. He spent

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<v Speaker 1>multiple nights per week for decades visiting the sick at

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<v Speaker 1>the local hospital, which he viewed as a core tenant

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<v Speaker 1>of his faith. And it would also be in the

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<v Speaker 1>early nineteen fifties, when he was in his early thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>that he got his first bird dogs in the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the American glory days of quail. One of his

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<v Speaker 1>first dogs was named Elvis. I bet if you track back,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd find somebody in your bird hunting lineage that had

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<v Speaker 1>a dog named Elvis. It would still be thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>years before I'd ever hunt with Paps. But during this

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<v Speaker 1>time he went to a training seminar in Oklahoma put

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<v Speaker 1>on by Delmer Smith and perhaps became a master bird

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<v Speaker 1>dog trainer, training small numbers of dogs, always registered pointers

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<v Speaker 1>in English setters, always having dogs and training, rarely selling

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<v Speaker 1>a dog, but giving them away to the right people.

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<v Speaker 1>To say that bird hunting and dog training was his

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<v Speaker 1>hobby would be a slap in the face of his discipline, seriousness,

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<v Speaker 1>and passion. It was a lifestyle it was part of

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<v Speaker 1>who he was. My first memories of hunting with Paps

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<v Speaker 1>were in the late nineteen eighties. I was under ten

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<v Speaker 1>years old and he was in his late sixties. To

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<v Speaker 1>go with him was a big deal, maybe even a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit risky, not because he was unsafe, but because

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<v Speaker 1>he was known to walk grown men to death in

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<v Speaker 1>his daylight till dark death marches in search of birds,

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<v Speaker 1>and many well meaning hunting companions were lost to the cold,

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<v Speaker 1>to the heat, or just playing weariness of heart, following

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<v Speaker 1>who many of them called Brother Nukele.

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<v Speaker 2>Few people could hang.

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<v Speaker 1>With Paths, and you knew it was cold when he

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<v Speaker 1>broke out his long underwear. It was like he was

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<v Speaker 1>made of tempered steel and rawhide. As a young boy

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<v Speaker 1>on that first hunt, rising what seemed like weeks before daylight,

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<v Speaker 1>my grandmother would make us sausage, biscuits, gravy, and eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was here that Paps tutored me and the

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<v Speaker 1>finer things. If a man raised in depression era Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 1>sorgum molasses mixed with butter and put on a biscuit

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<v Speaker 1>with a tall glass of buttermilk was his filet mignon.

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<v Speaker 1>The molasses I loved the buttermilk I could not tolerate.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandmother would make us blowney sandwiches on whitebread wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>in aluminum foil for our lunch. She even wrapped our

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<v Speaker 1>cokes and foil too, which I never quite understood, but

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<v Speaker 1>somehow I knew it meant that she loved us. He

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<v Speaker 1>took me Honting, near the home place of Robert Nukem,

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<v Speaker 1>his grandfather, which the house then was nothing more than

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<v Speaker 1>a falling down oakombe built on rock pillars. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I could remember what Paps told me about Robert. He

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<v Speaker 1>said something about him. It was minimal, but it summed

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<v Speaker 1>up the man's life in a sentence. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>what he said, but it planted in me in awareness

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<v Speaker 1>the brevity of man's existence. Who lives at the mercy

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<v Speaker 1>of the voracious appetite of time, rolling over men, reducing

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<v Speaker 1>them to dust in their life into a sentence. To

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<v Speaker 1>this day, I rarely passed an old, falling down home

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<v Speaker 1>without thinking about the people that lived there, often wondering

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone even remembers their names. Perhaps remembered Roberts though.

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<v Speaker 1>As we hunted, we walked sage grass covered cattle fields

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<v Speaker 1>and I followed Paps in his army green briar briches

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<v Speaker 1>while he shouted commands to a long legged liver spot

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<v Speaker 1>porter that would have curled the hair of a lesser dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Later in my life, at Paaps's funeral, a family friend

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<v Speaker 1>told me that he never knew how a man so

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<v Speaker 1>kind could scold a bird dog so harshly. He demanded performance.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps told me that a dog's name should be one

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<v Speaker 1>syllable and project from the chest, not the mouth. Acceptable

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<v Speaker 1>names were like Buck, or Goldie or Elvis. I never

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<v Speaker 1>fully understood what an unacceptable name would be, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like some of his names had two syllables,

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<v Speaker 1>at least one and a half. At lunch, we sat

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<v Speaker 1>on the tailgate of his red two wheel drive S

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<v Speaker 1>ten with the wooden dog box in the back, and

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<v Speaker 1>ate our lunch. I never saw the man eat a

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<v Speaker 1>blowney sandwich without laughing out loud as he called it

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<v Speaker 1>preacher's ham. It was a hat tip to the life

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<v Speaker 1>of poverty of a poor country preacher. The humor of

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<v Speaker 1>the joke never lost its luster to him, and he

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<v Speaker 1>said it to me each time, laughing out loud, as

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<v Speaker 1>if he nor I had ever heard the joke before.

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<v Speaker 1>On that first hunt, we didn't find any quail, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget picking up out of the dirt of

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<v Speaker 1>a cattle trail a beautiful, white, fully intact stone point

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<v Speaker 1>an arrahead. The images frozen in my mind in perpetuity.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have realized it, but this would be the

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<v Speaker 1>moment that my fascination with the deep antiquity of human

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<v Speaker 1>hunting in North America started, which carries on in my

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<v Speaker 1>work today on the Bear Grease podcast. We lived about

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<v Speaker 1>an hour and a half from Paps, but he would

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<v Speaker 1>come to Mina to hunt with Dad and I and

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<v Speaker 1>of all the grandkids. He noticed in me in interest

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<v Speaker 1>in bird hunting, and when I was in the sixth

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<v Speaker 1>grade in nineteen ninety two, he gave me something that

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<v Speaker 1>impacts my life to this day. There was a dog

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<v Speaker 1>named Lucy. She was a fully trained registered English center.

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<v Speaker 1>She was three years old, white with a black head,

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<v Speaker 1>and had been through the lew And Neukom training Academy.

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<v Speaker 1>The beauty of where we lived was that we had

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<v Speaker 1>access twenty seven acres behind our house that was a

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<v Speaker 1>grown up field dissected by multiple grown up fence lines

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<v Speaker 1>that oddly held multiple covees of quail. It was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of an anomaly, maybe even a microcosm of the glory

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<v Speaker 1>days of quail.

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<v Speaker 2>But I couldn't hunt it. I just had permission to

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<v Speaker 2>roam it.

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<v Speaker 1>Roam it we did between nineteen ninety two and nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety six. They're telling how many different times we pointed

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<v Speaker 1>and flushed those covees, and then we'd go after the singles.

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<v Speaker 1>Those quail had nightmares about Lucy and I. We kept

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<v Speaker 1>them on the run, but never killed a single one.

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<v Speaker 1>It was during this time that Paps gave me a

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<v Speaker 1>book on the Delmer Smith method of training, which I

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<v Speaker 1>read cover to cover. I got a long check cord

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<v Speaker 1>with a brass buckle, and I still used this foundational

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge of animal training on my mules, squirrel dogs, and

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<v Speaker 1>coon dogs today. Soon, perhaps this confidence in me grew,

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<v Speaker 1>and he gave me another dog, a black handed pointer

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<v Speaker 1>puppy named Nick, from the bloodlines of a dog called

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<v Speaker 1>Fiddler's Ace. I didn't know anything about the dog, but

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<v Speaker 1>he sounded really good. The goal was for me to

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<v Speaker 1>train Nick myself, and I tried, but like so many

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<v Speaker 1>things in life, moments are fleeting and dreams died easier

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<v Speaker 1>than they realized, and after four years of bird hunting,

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<v Speaker 1>I gave Lucy and Nick back to Paps. Always felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I failed the old man and my efforts with

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<v Speaker 1>the bird dogs, and I felt bad about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I never picked up that it bothered him. He knew

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<v Speaker 1>it was like fighting an incoming tide. There just weren't

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<v Speaker 1>any birds. Without birds, people didn't need bird dogs. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish so badly Paps could see what's happening today in

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<v Speaker 1>quail conservation, and how in many parts of the country

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<v Speaker 1>wild quail are coming back due to the efforts of

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<v Speaker 1>many people in organications like twel Forever. After I gave

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<v Speaker 1>back the dogs to Paps, we still had a yearly hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>I only remember actually finding birds one time. It was

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<v Speaker 1>February nineteen ninety six or nineteen ninety seven. I was

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<v Speaker 1>around seventeen and perhaps was seventy seven, and we turned

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<v Speaker 1>Loose's dog Goldie, out on a small logging road that

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<v Speaker 1>divided a clear cut on public land in southwest Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 1>where my dad had flushed a big covey of quail.

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<v Speaker 1>The little butterscotch setter had hunted in front of the

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<v Speaker 1>truck for less than a quarter mile before her run

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<v Speaker 1>turned to a catwalk and her nose lowered. Her tail

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<v Speaker 1>went from making big circles to small circles to a

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<v Speaker 1>staunch as an O Sage fence post as she'd locked

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<v Speaker 1>down on point, like her body had been suddenly filled

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<v Speaker 1>with concrete. I'm not sure who was more surprised, me,

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<v Speaker 1>Paps or Goldie. We jumped from the truck and scrambled

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<v Speaker 1>to load our guns. Paps's voice changed octaves and he

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<v Speaker 1>whispered as he gave me precise instructions on how to

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<v Speaker 1>approach the pointed dog. I wished his instructions from my

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<v Speaker 1>life had been a straightforward I used to ask him

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<v Speaker 1>questions I was afraid to ask my dad, like is

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<v Speaker 1>it okay to chew tobacco? I dabbled with that dirty

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<v Speaker 1>voodoo for a few years, but his non confrontational wisdom

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<v Speaker 1>to quote stay away from it eventually took lifelong route.

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<v Speaker 1>He always used to tell me that God will lead

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<v Speaker 1>you step by step, Clay, just like he did me.

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<v Speaker 1>To this day, I still take comfort in those words,

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<v Speaker 1>and I say the same thing to my kids. And

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't forgotten that Goldie is on point. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to tell you one more story that showed

0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Paps's input into my life. He told me the same

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<v Speaker 1>story on multiple occasions that was such a high octane

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<v Speaker 1>Solomon like parable that as an adult, I've wondered if

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<v Speaker 1>he actually did this or if this was an old

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<v Speaker 1>story told by a lot of different people that he

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<v Speaker 1>just repeated to me. But I've never heard this story

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere else, and I've come to the conclusion that he

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<v Speaker 1>was the one that actually did this. The story is

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<v Speaker 1>about two roosters, one old and one young, that he

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<v Speaker 1>had on the farm when he was a kid. The

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<v Speaker 1>older white rooster was the top dog and literally ruled

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<v Speaker 1>the roost, dominating the younger but bigger rooster that was

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<v Speaker 1>daily put in his place by coming in runner up

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<v Speaker 1>during the pair's daily spur and contest. Young Lewin always

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<v Speaker 1>thought that the young rooster could probably whip the old one,

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<v Speaker 1>but he just didn't know that he could. One day,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps decided to put his theory to the test, so

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<v Speaker 1>he caught the old white rooster and covered him in

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<v Speaker 1>black soot, changing his color temporarily to charcoal gray, making

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<v Speaker 1>him unrecognizable to the young rooster. Perhaps then pitched the

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<v Speaker 1>old rooster back into the chicken yard, and a young rooster,

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<v Speaker 1>not recognizing him and believing it was a new rooster,

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<v Speaker 1>promptly came over and in a whizbang tussle of feathers,

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<v Speaker 1>spurs and clucks, the young one whipped the old one

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<v Speaker 1>with ease. The old rooster must have been in shock

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<v Speaker 1>at the youngster's confidence, and as the soot slowly faded

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<v Speaker 1>back to white, the young rooster remained dominant the pair's

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<v Speaker 1>entire life. Like Solomon passing the sluggard's field and noting

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<v Speaker 1>the work ethic of the ants, perhaps his parable almost

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<v Speaker 1>didn't need explanation. It's clear that our biggest enemy is

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<v Speaker 1>often our own self confidence, and much of life is

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<v Speaker 1>simply an exercise in renewing our minds. This I have

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<v Speaker 1>never forgotten, and I've also not forgotten that I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you a story about us walking up on a covey

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<v Speaker 1>of birds. He always told me, on the covey rise

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<v Speaker 1>to pick out one single bird and block it out

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<v Speaker 1>with the end of the gun barrel and flow through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't stop as you squeeze the trigger, and when it falls,

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<v Speaker 1>just move on to the next one. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he learned on that gunship in World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>We eased forward, Paps with his bret of twelve gauge

0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:29.040
<v Speaker 1>and me with the Remington eleven hundred and twenty gauge,

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<v Speaker 1>ready for the explosion. Just as I passed Goldie on

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<v Speaker 1>my left, and perhaps was just on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of Goldie, a sound like someone opening a bottle with

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<v Speaker 1>the hoof beats of one hundred horses erupted. As the

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<v Speaker 1>covey rose. At least twelve birds got up before us.

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<v Speaker 1>Pap shot twice. I shot three times, so five shots

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<v Speaker 1>total were fired and three birds fell. In all these years.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the only covey we'd ever found while hunting together.

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<v Speaker 1>But Paps didn't take credit for hitting any of the birds,

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<v Speaker 1>Just like the enemy planes in World War Two, he

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<v Speaker 1>insisted that I'd killed all three, which I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>to this day that I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he just wanted to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>his grandson had knocked down a triple on wild birds

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<v Speaker 1>really on one of his only covey rises. Five or

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<v Speaker 1>six years later, in two thousand and two, when Perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>was eighty three years old, we went back to the

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<v Speaker 1>same block of public land. Perhaps was still hunting Goldie,

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<v Speaker 1>now in the final leg of her life, but we

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<v Speaker 1>all kind of knew it was Perhaps's final leg.

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<v Speaker 2>Two.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't find any birds that day. As we walked

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<v Speaker 1>through a clearing, I noticed the shed of a white

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<v Speaker 1>tailed deer lying on the ground and kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>that stone point. I picked it up, showed it to Paps,

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<v Speaker 1>and I took the horn home. Using the sharping marker,

0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I wrote on it Clay and Paps Nucomb Bird Hunt

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and two. I wouldn't have known it at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, but that would be the last time that

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<v Speaker 1>I hunted with him, and it would be the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the end of Paps's hunting. My first cousin, Greg Sheets,

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<v Speaker 1>lived close to Paps, and not long after I found

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<v Speaker 1>that shed horn. While driving to work, Greg noticed Paps's

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<v Speaker 1>s ten pulled off the side of the road near

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<v Speaker 1>an overgrown field that he often hunted, and Greg passed

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Seeing passed his truck there was normal,

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<v Speaker 1>but what caught his eye was that Goldie was by

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<v Speaker 1>the truck with no Paps.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a hot day.

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<v Speaker 1>And Greg, slightly alarmed, turned his truck around and got out,

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<v Speaker 1>called for Paps, and he said that Goldie took off

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<v Speaker 1>out into the brush. Greg followed Goldie, who led him

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<v Speaker 1>straight to a briar thicket where Perhaps was tangled to

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:10.880
<v Speaker 1>the point that he couldn't move. The day was heating up,

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 1>and Greg said that Perhaps was coherent, but it looked

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<v Speaker 1>like he'd been there for several hours of fighting briars,

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<v Speaker 1>and he just sat down.

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.959
<v Speaker 2>He just couldn't fight him anymore and he was just

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:25.240
<v Speaker 2>awaiting his fate.

0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Greg went in and cut him out, got Perhaps home

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and safe. I'm grateful that Greg turned around that day,

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:38.119
<v Speaker 1>but not long after that Perhaps couldn't drive anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think you can predict the rest of the story.

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>That shed Horn from our last hunt hangs in my

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<v Speaker 1>office today, but it's right beside a watercolor painting that

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<v Speaker 1>I did for Perhaps when I was a senior in

0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 1>high school and I'd painted one of his best dogs

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:02.919
<v Speaker 1>that he ever had that was on point. It was

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 1>from a beautiful photograph that someone took. It was an

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>English setter named Snipper, just on full point. When I

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.360
<v Speaker 1>painted it. I gave it to Paps, and that painting

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 1>hung in his office from nineteen ninety eight until they

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<v Speaker 1>moved Paps out of his home into assisted living around

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ten. Mimi had passed away in two thousand and seven,

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'll never forget seeing Paps cry as he walked

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<v Speaker 1>down the aisle to say his final goodbye to the

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<v Speaker 1>love of his life and a woman who was so

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>influential in mine. Having a grandparent in your life is

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<v Speaker 1>so powerful because you get to see played before you

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:49.440
<v Speaker 1>the stages of your life that you know will someday

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:54.199
<v Speaker 1>happen to you. I'd like to close by telling you

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 1>about the last two conversations that I had with Paps.

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<v Speaker 1>The first happened in the all of twenty thirteen, just

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<v Speaker 1>before he died. At the time, he could hardly hear,

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 1>so you had to yell at him to get him

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 1>to understand. And I'd recently been on some public land,

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<v Speaker 1>that same public land where we found those birds, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'd found some more birds, and I came in and

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<v Speaker 1>I set close to Paps and I said to him, Paps,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a big covey.

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<v Speaker 2>Of birds the other day.

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 1>And his eyes lit up, and he said, you did.

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.440
<v Speaker 1>And this teed him up to tell an anecdote. I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard my whole life. When he talked about his dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>and without segue, he said, my old dog Goldie, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe if you'd cracked her head open, a covey of

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>birds would have flown out. Every time he'd say this,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd do his he haul laugh, which I wish I

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 1>had a recording of. That laugh was one of a kind.

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>He kind of had a he haw and donkey vibe

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<v Speaker 1>that was guaranteed to draw a smile from anyone within

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<v Speaker 1>the earshot. The last conversation I had with him is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of complicated. I do not understand the mechanics of

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:08.160
<v Speaker 1>the spirit realm or the depths to which the dreams

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>of men create reality. But if I lay unconscious and

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>a doctor could peer into my mind and heart and

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 1>ascertain the last time I actually saw Paps, the last

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<v Speaker 1>time my spirit registered that I had engaged with him,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm confident that they would say it was on the

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<v Speaker 1>morning of September fifth, twenty twenty four. Do you remember

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the dream that we started this story with. I approached

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Paps and he was strong and vibrant. He wore a

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>bright blue shirt, and he had some type of treatment

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 1>to his ears, and he could hear really well. He

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:48.679
<v Speaker 1>swayed slightly as he stood, and I walked up to

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<v Speaker 1>him and I shook his hand, and in the climax

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<v Speaker 1>moment of this short interaction, I said one thing to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Paps, I've been burned hunting, That's all I said.

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<v Speaker 1>And I saw that excitement and passion in his eyes

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<v Speaker 1>that branded me as a child, and the dream was over.

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<v Speaker 1>True story. It happened just like that. It's like I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to engage with him one more time. Surely

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<v Speaker 1>there's something powerful, even supernatural, in the fluttering wings of

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<v Speaker 1>a Covey rise that connects the hearts of men who

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<v Speaker 1>witness it together. It has the power to link generations

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<v Speaker 1>and an unbreakable bond that no man made thing can do.

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<v Speaker 2>It did that with Paps and Eye.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and eight, the youngest of my wife

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<v Speaker 1>Misting Eye's four children was born. We felt like that

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<v Speaker 1>he should be named in honor of Paps, so we

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<v Speaker 1>named him Shepherd Covey Nukem. The name shepherd essentially means

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<v Speaker 1>pastor someone who cares for people, like Paps did, and

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<v Speaker 1>the name Covey is a direct reference to Paps's love

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<v Speaker 1>of quail, but equally an admonition to our son to

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<v Speaker 1>not live in isolation, but to integrate himself deeply into

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<v Speaker 1>the lives of family, friends, and his church community for life. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>Shepherd is seventeen and is growing into a fine young man.

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<v Speaker 1>His life just barely overlapped with paps. But I have

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt that the legacy of integrity, spiritual pursuit and

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<v Speaker 1>love of wild places is going to carry on through

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<v Speaker 1>him and all my kids. That's the same passion that

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps had for wild places, quail and bird dogs is

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<v Speaker 1>the same energy that fuels my life and career today.

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<v Speaker 1>He died on Christmas night twenty thirteen at the age

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<v Speaker 1>of ninety four, would have little understanding of what I

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<v Speaker 1>would do with my life, but I know this conservation

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<v Speaker 1>movement in the research urgence of Quail would have made

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<v Speaker 1>him proud and probably would evoke his passionate he hauled laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't thank you enough for listening to Bear Grease

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<v Speaker 1>and Brent's This Country Life podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you enjoyed this.

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<v Speaker 1>This was something unique and really personal to me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of you probably have similar stories

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<v Speaker 1>about your grandparents. But really, in this context, the point

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<v Speaker 1>of this story is that watching Pahaps grieve about the

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<v Speaker 1>loss of quail the last thirty five years in his

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<v Speaker 1>life really fueled my.

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<v Speaker 2>Interest in conservation. Even as a kid. I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope this doesn't happen to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for listening, for supporting what Brent

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<v Speaker 1>and I are doing down here. Keep the wild places

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<v Speaker 1>wild because that's where the quail live too.