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Speaker 1: Secretary, But to Judge, thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us on Bloomberg. The US has been engaging the global

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Speaker 2: Well, the way forward has to be one that regards

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Speaker 2: on every issue, from stabilizing supply chains to global public

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Speaker 1: The thing is, there's a sense that US may be

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we're demonstrating our commitment through the many projects,

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Speaker 2: Whether we're talking about ports, whether we're talking about the

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Speaker 1: Are you concerned about China's ownership and contained ports across

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Speaker 2: As we seek to de risk and diversify our supply

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Speaker 1: You talk about D risking, Are there any other sectors

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, right now, over capacity seems to be

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Speaker 3: What we know is that semiconductors.

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Speaker 2: To again be in a situation where we're coming up short,

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Speaker 1: So that comes to friendshoring. Without the likes of Japan

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Speaker 1: You talked about EV's the big boys, the likes of

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Speaker 2: We view the relationship that's been established in terms of

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Speaker 1: The collapse of I ninety five, would that be a

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Speaker 2: Well importantly, while there have been cases in recent years

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Speaker 1: The thing is, is it even viable, feasible for the

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of talk about emergency funds, and some

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Speaker 2: Serving under this president's leadership is an enormous honor, and

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Speaker 3: It's enormous pressure and.

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Speaker 2: You know that's for the President to discuss and decide.

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Speaker 2: You know, anyone can find some poll that says something provocative.

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Speaker 1: What would it take for you to run in twenty

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Speaker 2: called red states, blue states, purple states, places that voted

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Speaker 1: You have an impressive resume, Oxford Harvid roots caller, intel

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Speaker 1: officer in the US Navy, having suffd in Afghanistan as well,

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Speaker 1: also the youngest transport secretary in US history, and you're

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Speaker 2: Well, before I think about this as a politician, I

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Speaker 3: As we're talking, it's Father's.

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Speaker 1: Day, yes, and Happy Father's Day.

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Speaker 2: And my husband Chason and I are raising an amazing

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Speaker 2: we are getting closer to a future in which families

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Speaker 2: like mine know that we are supported and protected the

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Speaker 2: same as any other family. Again, in this administration, the

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Speaker 2: President has led a lot of work to do just that,

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Speaker 2: notably the Respect for Marriage Act that establishes protections for

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Speaker 3: But there's still a long way to go.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to legal protections and when it comes

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Speaker 2: our hope is that we continue to make forward strides

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Speaker 2: that those voices that try to get some kind of

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Speaker 2: and marginalized people find a different place to put their energies,

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Speaker 1: So at the stage the US is not ready for

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Speaker 1: a gay president, then, is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 2: No, again, I'm not here to talk about presidential politics.

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Speaker 2: I answered that question by running for president a few

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Speaker 2: years ago. Yes, and now I have the honor of

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Speaker 2: that agenda that he's asked me to work on, have

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Speaker 2: trying to deliver.

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Speaker 1: And if you were to run again and win, what

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Speaker 1: would be your priorities for the good of the US.

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Speaker 2: I'm not here to speculate on the priorities of any presidency,

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Speaker 2: but the one that I serve under, and the one

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Speaker 2: that even in two and a half years, it's already

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Speaker 2: at bay while we get that work done. Look, just

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Speaker 2: because we've been given a sum of funding that is

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Speaker 2: it well, use it wisely, use it in concert with

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Speaker 2: the lessons that we can learn from international partners and

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Speaker 2: that I would argue we do better than anybody in

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Speaker 2: the United States but when you take a ride on

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Speaker 2: the Shinkansen bullet train, you also see there are so

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Speaker 2: many areas in which we have.

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Speaker 3: A lot to learn. Getting that right, doing our job, well,

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Speaker 3: that's more.

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Speaker 2: Than enough to consume more than one hundred percent of

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Speaker 2: my professional and political attention.

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Speaker 1: Sec you, but to judge me. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for your time today.

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Speaker 3: You've been a pleasure tame here. Thank you,