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Speaker 1: What's a Broncos Country.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Broncos Podcast network and YouTube for

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Speaker 2: the latest episode of Broncos Now. As always from your

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Speaker 2: host is Sidney Jones. And coming up on today's episode, Pilatine.

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Speaker 1: Reporter at Phil Malani joins the show.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about the Pro Bowl as Patzertana, Justin Simmons,

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Speaker 2: and Marvin Mims Junior head down to or Orlando for

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Speaker 2: that this week, and look ahead to the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: All that more coming up. Joining me here in the.

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Speaker 2: Broncos Podcast studio for today's episode of Broncos And Now

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Speaker 2: is a Philatine reporter Film Malani. Phil, thanks for joining

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Speaker 2: the show today, two weeks in a row on the show.

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Speaker 2: It was great, very usual. Happy to have you on again.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: How are we doing?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, some exciting games last week. Yeah, you know, and

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Speaker 4: now the Super Bowl matchup is set. I think most

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Speaker 4: of Broncos Country probably agrees that you don't.

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Speaker 3: Want to see the Chiefs disappointing win another one.

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Speaker 4: But I think this point you're just like, they're really

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Speaker 4: good and just kind of deal with it.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were thinking maybe this

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Speaker 1: was an off year for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it turns out not so much.

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Speaker 1: Not so much. Yeah, you always find a way to

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Speaker 1: pull through in the end.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Those two together, you're always going to be in it.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, connections with.

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Speaker 1: The forty, I'm excited for them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll have to see how things play out. A

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Speaker 4: rematch from a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Ago, a couple of years ago. Yeah, for twenty different

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Speaker 1: teams twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I think. Yeah, so yeah, very different teams now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of different excitement to talk about for

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Speaker 4: two weeks here.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well yeah, we still have two weeks for that.

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot going on in the football world

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Speaker 1: this week.

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Speaker 2: Fell Pro Bowls coming up in Orlando this week, So

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Speaker 2: Pats are Tan, Justin Simmons, Marvin Mims, they will.

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Speaker 1: All be down there in Orlando. Y. Yeah, really exciting.

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Speaker 2: There's a skills showdown for them on Thursday and then

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Speaker 2: the game is on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. There's all kinds of different things, like moving up

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Speaker 3: to a program, so.

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Speaker 1: It's like community events, yeah, practices and all that.

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Speaker 4: Past man competitions and yeah, so those are kinds of

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Speaker 4: different things.

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Speaker 1: Last year past what did he like zip lines exact.

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Speaker 3: That was kind of cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was cool my growing up, my favorite was

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Speaker 4: like the quarterback competition where they have like the targets

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Speaker 4: on the golf carts and stuff and like, uh, you

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Speaker 4: know those old school quarterbacks, they would take that thing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was fun to always see that.

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Speaker 1: That is fun. They haven't done on a while.

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Speaker 4: I know, yeah, they kind of went away from them,

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Speaker 4: but I think that that's kind of fun too.

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Speaker 1: Of course Peyton Manning will be there too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, coaching, I guess, yeah, j I went it last year.

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Speaker 1: I think I think so too. Maybe Payton's here then.

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Speaker 4: Yes, to bounce back, of course I can't, but yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 4: Yeah it should be fun.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we get some people going down there too.

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Speaker 2: I coverage, Yeah, look out all week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, opportunity where you're always around these guys, like they're

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Speaker 4: all he's taking things so seriously, you know, like getting

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Speaker 4: a lot more loose when you're around those guys, so

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Speaker 4: you can do some fun stuff with them, and I think.

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Speaker 1: Practices are fun. They're loose, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, So everybody's having a good time, and I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so do so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fans be on the lookout on Denver Broncos dot

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Speaker 2: com and our social media channels.

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Speaker 1: Will be fun stuff coming this week from that.

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Speaker 2: Also, Phil the Senior Bowl that is this Saturday in Mobile,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think a lot of focuses in Mobile

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Speaker 4: interested in drafting. You know, a couple of quarterbacks down there,

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Speaker 4: Michael Pennix, Bo Nicks, those are those guys are going

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Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot going on this week and

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Speaker 4: it's really, uh, you know, a big week for some

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Speaker 4: you get to prove yourself a little bit. So, uh,

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Speaker 4: definitely a big week for the Broncos and for those

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Speaker 2: Yeah, show some of the executives, like in person, what

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Speaker 2: they can do, because exactly a lot of times stry

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, there's a I think maybe some

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Speaker 4: people wonder why, like why do scouts go to games?

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Speaker 3: Like what are they doing? Like watching on tv?

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Speaker 4: You know, But I feel like when you're on the

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Speaker 4: You know, you can always look up on a piece

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Speaker 4: can feel a different presence. Some of these guys, despite

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Speaker 1: A guy is and who they are.

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Speaker 4: So much of a success I feel like in the

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Speaker 4: everybody's super athletic, everybody's super physical, everybody can lift a

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Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, Phil, you mentioned quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Outside of that, what other position groups do you think

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Speaker 4: Definitely like along the defensive line. I think that that's

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Speaker 4: just the with the issues the Broncos had trying to

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Speaker 4: something along the defensive front seven. I think that that's

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Speaker 4: an area that Broncos could go early in the draft

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Speaker 4: You know, that's an area where you know, said when

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Speaker 4: conference championship games, I always like, see what these teams

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Speaker 4: really stepped up, Nick Benito, Jonathan Cooper, you know, the Browning.

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Speaker 4: These guys really stepped up this year. But if you

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Speaker 4: the guys that Sean Payton was asked about, Okay, what

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Speaker 4: You know, they obviously have certain which is a focus

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Speaker 4: the Broncos are going to have to find some pieces, said,

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Speaker 4: they're finding legitimate talent later in the draft, guys that

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Speaker 4: that's where you can really separate your team. And that's

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Speaker 4: what the Senior Bowl is about, is finding guys like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel you're talking about edge rusher's first off.

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Speaker 1: You can never have enough of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know George Payton has said that time

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Speaker 2: and time and again too. But you know Jonathan Cooper

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Speaker 2: So like you said, I mean, you're going to find

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Speaker 2: these guys later in the draft.

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Speaker 4: Find some guys there, like a Quinn Minors or even

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Speaker 4: a Justin Simmons who like develop into these you know,

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Speaker 4: I think that's how you build depth. That's how you

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Speaker 4: high price free agents that you bring in. Those are

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Speaker 4: And you know that starts at weeks like this where

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Speaker 3: You under the eight over gems. You know that that

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Speaker 4: Those are really big deals for teams that win a

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Speaker 2: Well, Phil, looking ahead more into the offseason, you mentioned

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Speaker 2: those high price free agents. You know, they made a

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Speaker 3: You know, this is what the mold is like.

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Speaker 2: This guy's a Bronco exactly.

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Speaker 4: Those kind of things are going to become clearer and

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think so too, just knowing what his culture

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Speaker 3: That's what makes a winning football team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Phil, we talked to Juliel I think

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 2: I agree, I'm excited for it. Yeah, yeah, thanks for

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Speaker 2: Broncos Now Broncos Country.

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