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Speaker 1: Hey, the folks, it is Friday, April third, and we

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Speaker 1: are rooting for, but not very hopeful for a romance

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Speaker 1: between President Trump and Bruce Springsteen. And with that, welcome

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Speaker 1: to this episode of Amy and TJ. Why is the President?

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Speaker 1: This was a weird insult that got my attention this morning,

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Speaker 1: and now we're looking into it a little more. But

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Speaker 1: there is a back and forth between Trump and one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest artists of all time, quite frankly, and

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Speaker 1: it involves plastic surgery and boycotting concerts, robes. It's an ugly,

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Speaker 1: very public back and forth. They're just insulting each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's one thing to disagree with one another politically,

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Speaker 2: but this is way beyond that. And look, Bruce Springsteen

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Speaker 2: the boss. He is basically America. I mean you think

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Speaker 2: about just iconic American singers that embody the working man

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Speaker 2: up there on stage making good like that's Bruce Springsteen,

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Speaker 2: Jersey Gap right, yeah, like the heart of America.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So it just seems so interesting to see President Trump

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Speaker 2: make America great again and Bruce Springsteen, a absolute symbol

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Speaker 1: Robes. They have the same audience these two men have

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Speaker 1: the exact same audience for the most part, So is

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Speaker 1: that group torn. This is a I was gonna be

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Speaker 1: a little dismissive, Robes, but this is now going to continue.

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Speaker 1: So if you haven't been keeping up, folks, it got

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Speaker 1: my attention because last night, at nine to twenty one,

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Speaker 1: in the middle of war, the President of the United

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Speaker 1: States put out a truth social post one sentence again

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Speaker 1: at nine twenty one last night, Robes. And one of

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Speaker 1: the first things we do every morning when we get

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Speaker 1: up is we check the President's truth Social feed because

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Speaker 1: he often makes news. He's talking about the straight of

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Speaker 1: so I was thrown to see this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he slipped this one in last night is well, wow,

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Speaker 2: I can't believe I just said it, like that is

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Speaker 1: He didn't even sign off with DJT or thank you

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Speaker 1: for your attention to this matter. That was like a

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Speaker 1: random among the toilet message.

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Speaker 2: So it I think he was operating under the belief

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Speaker 2: have actually been listening. But you must have missed thirteen

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Speaker 2: hours earlier when he posted it write a lengthy, scathing

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Speaker 2: post about Bruce Springsteen. So it was funny he started

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Speaker 2: the day thinking about Bruce Springsteen, and it's almost as

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Speaker 1: But this goes back in for this goes back quite

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Speaker 1: a ways. This goes back some say years and years

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Speaker 1: Yes they have different politics, that is fine, but things

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Speaker 1: have turned it seems as of late robes as there's

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Speaker 1: is name accusations of treason, people being losers, needing plastic surgery,

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Speaker 1: and what in God's name. So it's been going on

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Speaker 1: for years and really rodes. It started off again this

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Speaker 1: week because the Springsteen tourists starting this week. He was

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Speaker 1: social media pokes.

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Speaker 2: Correct correct, Bruce Springsteen said that he is not going

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Speaker 2: to be shy or afraid to get political and to

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Speaker 2: say what he really thinks about this president, and he

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Speaker 2: did so on stage. And that makes now a lot

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Speaker 2: more sense when you hear what President Trump wrote about

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Speaker 2: Bruce Springsteen a few hours earlier. He said, bad and

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Speaker 2: very boring singer Bruce Springsteen, who looks like a dried

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Speaker 2: a really bad plastic surgeon, has long had a horrible

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Speaker 2: and incurable case of Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes referred to

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Speaker 2: as TDS. You doctor, he is the chief diagnoser, by

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Speaker 2: the way. Okay, President Trump goes on to say this

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Speaker 2: about Springsteen. The guy is a total losers who spew's

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Speaker 2: hate against a president who won a landslide election, including

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Speaker 2: the popular vote all seven swing states and eighty six

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Speaker 2: the Dems, our country was dead and now we have

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Speaker 2: should boycott his overpriced concerts, which suck. Save your heart, sorry, suck,

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Speaker 2: suck seeing your herd earned money. America is back. And

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Speaker 2: he wrote that last thing about the boycott in all caps.

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Speaker 1: M that's incredibly personal. Is it because Bruce Springsteen has

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Speaker 2: Almost Yes, I think he really, I think Actually it's

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Speaker 2: but maybe it will when you think about it. It's

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Speaker 2: a compliment to Bruce Springsteen. He knows the power this

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Speaker 2: you've got pictures of Bruce Springsteen on stage in a

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Speaker 2: sold out crowd holding up a no King sign in Minneapolis,

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Speaker 2: and yes, opened up his The Land of Hope and

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Speaker 2: he said that America is currently in the hands of

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Speaker 2: a corrupt, incompetent, racist, reckless, and treasonous administration. Them are

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Speaker 1: Okay, racist, treasonous, I mean, I don't know what reckless words.

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Speaker 1: So you can get in this country at least if

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Speaker 1: He has a right to certainly don't like the words

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Speaker 1: he's choosing. You could take issue with it. Where do

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Speaker 1: we then robes, Well, we have the expectation. Presidents get

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Speaker 1: criticized more than anybody, any celebrity who's ever been attacked

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Speaker 1: They don't do this, they don't take on all comers

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Speaker 1: of course he's not going to do that. But I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying it's it's not that he's being criticized, is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's taking things as he always has. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 2: Very personally, he I think it's fair to say he

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Speaker 2: is the most or at least the most I've ever

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Speaker 1: Some will say this is toughness, not going to be

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Speaker 1: just turn it. I'm saying people flip it. We're in

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Speaker 1: a place where we can now justify. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what person, what parent would tell their child to behave

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Speaker 1: would never So I'm saying, why is it we can

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Speaker 2: That, And what's the And President Trump, what he's saying

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Speaker 2: going after his music, going after his looks, going after it.

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Speaker 2: Just it's so superficial and so childlike.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for explaining what my issue is. That's what

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Speaker 1: it is. He calls them a prone, he calls them.

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Speaker 1: That is not saying you got issue with my policies.

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Speaker 1: Well I got it. That's so yes, that's the thing

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Speaker 1: that got me. You talked about last of this tour

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Speaker 1: He was on stage over there and used that same

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Speaker 1: word you talking about treeson us, called him treason us

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Speaker 1: talking to a foreign audience about what's happening in America.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people take issue with that, but he's

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Speaker 1: an entertainer, he's not a politician. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at this point, and Bruce Springsteen has

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Speaker 2: I'm an American and I have a stage, and i

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Speaker 2: it alienates half of my audience. I don't care if

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Speaker 2: it has any sort of impact on ticket sales or

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Speaker 2: music downloads, because at this point, it's dangerous not to

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Speaker 2: And that's basically the line he drew.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's cool to have. You can't do nothing

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Speaker 1: to me money, and he does. I mean, he has

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Speaker 1: just reached that level. I do wander ropes. What is

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Speaker 1: there going to be a conflict? Is there going to

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Speaker 1: exact same audience, These two guys who represent robes I thought,

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Speaker 2: Seeing white working class white guys.

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Speaker 1: What does he said? Both of them are seventy five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're about the same same generation. Look and yes,

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Speaker 2: interesting because, look, people do start to take sides. We

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Speaker 2: don't know if this will have any impact when the

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Speaker 2: president calls for a boycott, which he very clearly did,

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Speaker 2: called for a boycott of Bruce Springsteen's concerts, will people

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Speaker 2: say I no longer like Bruce Springsteen?

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Speaker 1: What would you say? You know what? Don't give me

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Speaker 1: you know we talk told you this really got set

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Speaker 1: at a concert in Overseas. Well, let you hear the

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Speaker 1: president's original scathing response to that, which I would argue

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Speaker 1: also get the answer from roboch do we really think

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Speaker 2: Stay here, Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy

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Speaker 2: and TJ. Worthy. Well, the very public dueling between Trump,

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Speaker 2: President Trump and Bruce Springsteen has reached a fever pitch.

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Speaker 2: It's been simmering now for a little over a year

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Speaker 2: where Bruce Springsteen made some comments about the president overseas.

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Speaker 2: He's his tour now kicking off in Minneapolis over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: and now he'll be performing by the way in Portland,

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Speaker 2: Oregon this evening on Friday night. Pretty sure he'll have

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Speaker 2: a pretty uh, just a like minded crowd with him,

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Speaker 1: I'm checking. Now you have an idea. I assume it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a huge tour. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: many tour dates he has lined up. But the president

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Speaker 1: probably is concerned about that role. This guy's going to

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Speaker 1: have the stage damn near every night for the past

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Speaker 1: for the next few months. And he is going on

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Speaker 1: stage to some of these concerts he's already done. He

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Speaker 1: are almost political rallies.

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Speaker 2: He actually warned. He did some interviews beforehand, and he

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Speaker 2: told reporters just letting you know, I am going to

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Speaker 2: but they also recognize he's been very very specific and

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Speaker 1: Twenty dates between now and May twenty seven, twenty dates.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about those cities? Portland, La La,

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Speaker 2: He's made some wise choices. He's no dummy, Brooklyn. I

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Speaker 2: He's got some safe cities. They don't think given those audiences,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of surprised he doesn't do more in the heartland.

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Speaker 2: If you will, Well, maybe with this particular tour, he

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Speaker 2: but look, we've seen what happens when you have folks

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Speaker 1: And I haven't seen anything. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: I have not. Okay, you were really excited about reading

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Speaker 2: this is what the president said? How long ago did

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Speaker 1: In response? Last year we covered this one.

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Speaker 2: We might have, but it's just it's worth revisiting given

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Speaker 2: Bruce Springsteen. So here is what he wrote last year.

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Speaker 2: I see that a highly overrated Bruce Springsteen goes to

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Speaker 2: or his radical left politics, and importantly, he is not

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Speaker 2: If I wasn't elected, it would have been gone by nows. Wow,

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize he said.

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Speaker 1: That America was at risk.

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Speaker 2: We would have been blown off the map. Okay, sleepy

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Speaker 2: Joe didn't have a clue as to what he was doing.

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Speaker 2: But Springsteen is dumb as a rock and couldn't see

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Speaker 2: even worse? This dried out prune of a rocker. His

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Speaker 2: skin is all atrophied. Ought to keep his mouth shut

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Speaker 2: until he gets back into the country. That's just standard fair.

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Speaker 2: it looks like that maybe Bruce Springsteen did take some

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Speaker 1: Then we'll see how it goes for him. That's a

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Speaker 1: weird threat threat. Yes, okay, I'm serious. Some people might

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Speaker 2: Look, I think, Look, I don't know how powerful we

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Speaker 2: now has come out and support of Bruce Springsteen. I

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Speaker 2: concertgores or people being turned off by Bruce Springsteen based

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Speaker 2: on what the pre president said. They put out this

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Speaker 2: We cannot remain silent as one of our most celebrated

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Speaker 2: of the United States. Bruce Springsteen is not just a

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Speaker 2: this country and around the world, from Nebraska to Born

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Speaker 2: to Run. His music has spoken truth to power for decades,

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Speaker 2: and that is exactly what he is doing now. Musicians

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Speaker 2: have the right to freedom of expression, and we stand

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Speaker 2: in complete solidarity with Bruce and every member who uses

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Speaker 1: What's Nebraska?

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Speaker 2: That's a song of his?

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Speaker 1: Oh? How you saw the list states? From Nebraska to

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Speaker 1: to what Oklahoma? I mean?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Okay, you're a Bruce Springsteen fans.

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Speaker 1: President and I might agree on we were not necessarily

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Speaker 1: who that guy is, I know what he means. I

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Speaker 1: his music, Fine, no big deal, but damn.

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Speaker 2: Literally, Born in the USA is Bruce Springsteen's song like

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Speaker 2: Born in the USA, the Streets of Philadelphia, thunder Road,

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Speaker 2: I'm on Fire, dancing in the dark, Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 2: all of his amazing.

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Speaker 1: Video that they were out in the cornfield and the House,

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Speaker 2: Jack and Dianea, isn't it with John Mellencamp. Wait, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you're thinking about one Glory Days? What

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Speaker 2: Glory Days? No? What Damn, I don't know what you're

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Speaker 2: talking about.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: I'm not as big of a music video person, so

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Speaker 1: Anyway, folks, we thought it was interesting. It's worth noting

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Speaker 2: That's very true.

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Speaker 1: These are really icons in those lanes to the way

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Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder, you know, I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine that they would be willing to just

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Speaker 2: like Bruce's music, No, you are like you bleed the

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's in people's hearts, and I don't

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Speaker 2: Sometimes divorce is hard, right, You got to pick your friend,

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Speaker 2: Which one do you go with? Who do you hang

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Speaker 1: All right, and before we go, Rope, tell us who

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