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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, October first, two thousand twenty, Season sixteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number thirty five. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: The Break, live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star. Got Nick David Amber along and we got

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Speaker 1: a forty five minutes of Cowboys talk with you guys. Today.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be joined momentarily by Bucky Brooks, as we

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Speaker 1: are every Wednesday and Thursday. Today he's going to be

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Speaker 1: talking about the Browns defense versus a Cowboys offense. But

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Speaker 1: until he gets here, we'll start first by catching you

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Speaker 1: guys up on a little injury information. Dave, why don't

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Speaker 1: you tell us what Coach McCarthy had to say this

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Speaker 1: morning's press conference with regards to the status of Tyrn Smith.

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Speaker 1: He's back, at least that's what Mike told me. They're

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Speaker 1: at practice right now, and I'm in here on the show,

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Speaker 1: so I guess I don't know that for sure. But

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Speaker 1: Tyron Smith was at practice yesterday. Kind of a miscommunication,

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Speaker 1: I guess you want to call it. He was at practice.

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Speaker 1: The plan was for him to go through individuals, but

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Speaker 1: then he was listed as did not participate on the

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Speaker 1: practice report. Kind of some cross wires there, because McCarthy

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Speaker 1: today said, no, he did what we thought he would do.

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Speaker 1: He went through individuals. But I think you have to

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Speaker 1: mix into eleven on eleven to be declared even limited,

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Speaker 1: I guess, but we made sure to clarify. I think

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Speaker 1: McCarthy asked was asked like five questions today about Tyron status,

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Speaker 1: including so he's gonna do eleven on eleven, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: play real football today, and he said, yep, that's the plan.

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Speaker 1: So always a good sign when somebody's practicing on a Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll see what the injury report says. But

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling I'm feeling optimistic about Tyrant Smith's availability. I

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Speaker 1: like your optimism, Nick, I'm sensing skepticism from you or

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Speaker 1: was it no? I just laughing because I'm like he

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Speaker 1: just said he got asked five times about Tyrn Smith

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking that's six more questions than he wants

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Speaker 1: to talk about tyrants. I mean, and to me, and

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Speaker 1: we talked about it yesterday when when when you did

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Speaker 1: not practice? You know, I just look at that like

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Speaker 1: you're sitting in your room, you know, watching your family

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Speaker 1: feud or something like that. You know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like you didn't practice, but being out there with the

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that would be classified as limited.

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Speaker 1: But think, what do I know? Yeah, I would think

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Speaker 1: McCarthy up because he was basically like, I don't really

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Speaker 1: And you know, he didn't really have an answer for

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Speaker 1: But like I said, I assume, you know, you have

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Speaker 1: particularly have to face Miles Garrett. Give me an update

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Speaker 1: on de Marcus Lawrence. What do you guys know about

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence? At this point, he is still expected to

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Speaker 1: be with the rehab group. He's been, you know, doing

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Speaker 1: that I saw kind of being had around Twitter surrounding

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys offensive strategy, particular to the running game. And

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Speaker 1: But the Cowboys and the Jets are the only two

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Speaker 1: Now last week, obviously they were having some issues getting

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Speaker 1: first with you Amber. I think it depends on your opponent.

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's completing almost seventy percent of his passes, like

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Speaker 1: sounds like Nick and correct me if I'm wrong. It

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Speaker 1: hands on the ball. Well, it all starts up front.

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Speaker 1: The disruption happens up front. All of the bad things

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Speaker 1: typically happen when Miles Garrett and company are being able

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Speaker 1: to get around the quarterback. And the way that you

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Speaker 1: can and do that is you stop the run on

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Speaker 1: early downs. If the Cowboys elect to run it, you

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Speaker 1: put Dallas in backed up situations where it's obvious passing nows.

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Speaker 1: So now they can spread out a little bit, they

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Speaker 1: can pin their ears back, they can get in those

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Speaker 1: tracks stances and come after the quarterback. Here's what's concerning

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Speaker 1: about the Cowboys when you look at them over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years, when Dak Prescott throws the ball

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Speaker 1: over thirty three times, they're thirteen and twenty in his

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Speaker 1: history over the last nineteen games, fourteen times he's had

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Speaker 1: to throw at thirty three or more times. When the

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Speaker 1: turnovers begin to happen, more throws they win eighty one

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Speaker 1: percent of the games when he doesn't have any turnovers.

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Speaker 1: They only win eighteen percent of the time when he

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Speaker 1: has two or more turnovers. The more you throw it,

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Speaker 1: the more you putting them in harm's way, and so

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Speaker 1: it's kind of the conundrum that you find yourself. You

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Speaker 1: want to throw it because it's the best option based

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Speaker 1: on your personnel, but when you do that, the odds

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Speaker 1: go up that he is going to turn over the ball.

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Speaker 1: And that's been the biggest issue that the Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: had run game all that the turnovers are killing them.

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Speaker 1: If you eliminate the turnovers, then you have a chance

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Speaker 1: to win games. This kind of this kind of compliments

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Speaker 1: that Bucky because I mean, I do hear what you're saying,

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Speaker 1: and I understand that Lamar Jackson has arguably the best

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Speaker 1: tackle duo in the NFL. But Baltimore absolutely diced this

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Speaker 1: back seven I'm looking. I mean, he averaged eleven yards

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Speaker 1: per attempt and had three hundred yards and only through

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Speaker 1: five incompletions. So how do you balance you know, the

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Speaker 1: danger of having Dak dropped back against the very obvious

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Speaker 1: reality that that's not something Cleveland defends very well. I

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Speaker 1: think you take this game and treated in two halfs.

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Speaker 1: I think the first half you're super aggressive when you

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Speaker 1: come out throwing early downs. You're trying to run up

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Speaker 1: and see if you can get a fourteen point lead

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Speaker 1: on the Cleveland Browns. That is the way that you

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Speaker 1: want to play. Fast, aggressive early down throws, attack, put

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Speaker 1: points up on the board early. The second half then

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Speaker 1: becomes a little more of a balance game where you're

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Speaker 1: mixing in runing throws on those early day and you're

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Speaker 1: beginning to control the game. But the first half you

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Speaker 1: can pay the first half at a frenetic pace and

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Speaker 1: really try to put points. So I just think it

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Speaker 1: has to be in Kellen Moore's mind. I have to

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Speaker 1: get to a certain number of rushing attempts, not necessarily

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Speaker 1: for the production, but to make sure that the clock

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Speaker 1: is running. And I will say this, I came on

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Speaker 1: here a couple of weeks ago and I advocated the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys playing fast. They're playing faster than any team in

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Speaker 1: the league. The problem is when you play that fast,

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Speaker 1: the offenses in a rhythm, but you give the defense

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Speaker 1: more opportunities to be on the field to be exposed.

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Speaker 1: It's that fine line of playing fast but also calling

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Speaker 1: the game from an offensive standpoint to protect my defense.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be the dead horse here. But

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Speaker 1: let's flip it on the Browns. Who's Waldo over there,

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Speaker 1: who's wearing the yellow jersey here in practice this week?

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Speaker 1: And who the Cowboys maybe trying to exploit? Can we

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Speaker 1: do that? Can we go Bolton board? Yeah? I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: there are plenty of people for the Cowboys to exploit,

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Speaker 1: because I just don't think the Browns can cover all

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Speaker 1: the way happens on the outside. Denzil Ward is their

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Speaker 1: number one, but Terrence Williams and those guys are certainly vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: The problem is can I find a way to protect

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Speaker 1: to give them shots. Because Dallas hasn't been a twelve

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Speaker 1: personnel team with two tight ends, you can't really go

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Speaker 1: max protect and allow Amari Cooper and Michael Gallup or

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Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb to go to work. And so you have

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Speaker 1: to figure out a way to maybe hold the tight

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Speaker 1: endend and maybe do some three man routes where you

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Speaker 1: can push the ball down the field while still protecting Zach,

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Speaker 1: protecting Dak from having that pass us right in his face.

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Speaker 1: When you, I know, earlier yesterday, I think it was

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Speaker 1: you said that you thought that this offense that the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys will be facing, the Cleveland offense, was as talented,

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Speaker 1: if not the most talented offense that they would have

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Speaker 1: faced so far this season. Where do you rank this defense,

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Speaker 1: like especially the defensive front, Where do you rank them

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Speaker 1: relative to the other teams the Cowboys have seen so

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Speaker 1: far this year? I would put them behind the Rams,

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Speaker 1: maybe right there with the because maybe a little head

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Speaker 1: of the Falcons, because you would swap out Grady Jared

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Speaker 1: from Miles Gary, both of those guys are kind of

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Speaker 1: comparable in terms of like their command. The thing is

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Speaker 1: the outside pass russure is dominant. So I would say

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Speaker 1: you're looking at the Atlanta Falcons defense, and remember early

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Speaker 1: in the game couldn't control that defensive line. The first

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Speaker 1: quarter was problematic. Turnovers were coming because the pressure was

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Speaker 1: so it missed. They had to turn up the pace

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Speaker 1: and the tempo to kind of slow them down and

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Speaker 1: get the game under control. I think that's what you're

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Speaker 1: potentially looking at. How the Atlanta Falcons started out the

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Speaker 1: game with their defensive pressure really harassing Dad Prescott and

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Speaker 1: calls and turnovers. Before we let you go, I did

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Speaker 1: have one more question I wanted to ask you. Cleveland

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Speaker 1: right now is ranked fifth in rush defense, only allowing

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Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty two rush yards so far this season.

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Speaker 1: That being said, are they more susceptible to the past

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Speaker 1: a function of how the games have played out so

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Speaker 1: far for them in the first three weeks. Now, it's

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Speaker 1: still very vulnerable in the back end. When they're not

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Speaker 1: function of who they've really played like they face the

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Speaker 1: Washington Redskins. They face the Cincinnati Bengals. Joe Burrow throw

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Speaker 1: its sixty times and they conceded yards from twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: found a way to slow them down in the red zone,

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Speaker 1: so some of that is the numbers are kind of

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Speaker 1: skewed based on how they played. This by far would

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Speaker 1: be the toughest challenge that they have facing a Cowboys offense,

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Speaker 1: so we will see how good they are. Dallas can

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Speaker 1: be an attack mode, but I think the biggest thing

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Speaker 1: is game management. If the Cowboys just take care of

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Speaker 1: the football, don't give it away on offense, and don't

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Speaker 1: make mistakes in the kicking game, they should be able

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Speaker 1: to win this game. They have to tend to their

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Speaker 1: own knitting. If they take care of the football, they

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Speaker 1: should be able to walk away with a w. All right,

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Speaker 1: Bucky Man, we appreciate you joining us. That was really

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Speaker 1: great stuff. We'll see again next week when we match

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Speaker 1: let's jump back in. We're talking about the Cowboys offense

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Speaker 1: in the league. Is this the week for the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: to consider going more run heavy or is this one

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Speaker 1: they are against the pass. So maybe you're going with

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Speaker 1: the exact same strategy that you've had in some of

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Speaker 1: these other games. Let's start first Union. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's clear last week that they they were starting the

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Speaker 1: game just pass, pass, pass, and uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think just that being said, because you do try to

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Speaker 1: change it up, I would imagine they're going to just

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Speaker 1: because you don't want to put tendencies out there. There's

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Speaker 1: quality control coaches out there for a reason. So I

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Speaker 1: would imagine they will not start the game like they

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Speaker 1: did last week with I think it was six or

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Speaker 1: seven straight passes. I mean just you know, and they

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Speaker 1: were they were moving it. But I think that they'll

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Speaker 1: try to, you know, establish Zeke earlier. Amber Um. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what it is about this game. And I

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Speaker 1: know that the Browns, I'm supposed to previous years, they

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Speaker 1: see this game. Even though everything that Bucky said, I

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Speaker 1: but I still I still feel okay. And I feel

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Speaker 1: use to kind of find the balance. Fine, just kind

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Speaker 1: of play around with both things and just try to

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Speaker 1: I do think I see this game as something where

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. I don't want to hear it on Sunday

645
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: Amber when Miles Garrett has his third sack and you're like, oh,

646
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are They're awful, They're so bad. No like it.

647
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: It turns out the Browns are better than the people

648
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: want to give them credit for. I think he actually

649
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: Dave real quick. I just gonna say, I think ever

650
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: might be thinking about next week's game against the Giants.

651
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: That's the one that maybe she's thinking this week where

652
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: she's not as worried. I'm worried. I don't know about

653
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: everybody else. I'm worried. I don't know what it is.

654
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know it's exactly what it is.

655
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: It's because it's the Browns. They haven't had a win.

656
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: This is the first time they've had a winning record

657
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: in six years. Twenty fourteen was the last time before

658
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: this week they had a winning record. So it makes

659
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: sense that it makes sense that you feel that way

660
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: based on the logo, but based on the roster, I

661
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: think you should feel a lot more worried than you are. Um.

662
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: I look, I didn't drive the CD LAMB train to

663
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: pound the rock fifty times. Let's wing this bad boy around.

664
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: I understand it's gonna be tough with with Miles Garrett

665
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: coming after you, without Lyle Collins, and hopefully with Tyrn Smith.

666
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: We'll see. Um, but I just think I love what

667
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: Bucky said, throw it early, try to get up a lead.

668
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: Baker Baker Mayfield can't keep up with them if they're

669
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: humming the way that they were the other day the

670
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: other day. You know, Russell Wilson's a whole different animal.

671
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: I think. You know you're gonna have to win shootouts

672
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: with the way this team is constructed. I think maybe

673
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: not maybe not forty to thirty nine every week, but

674
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: like you know, the Cowboys are gonna need to score

675
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: in the thirties most weeks to win games, I think,

676
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: and passing gives him the best bet to do that.

677
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's move on one stat that stuck

678
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: out to me. Stuck out to me about this Brown's defense.

679
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 1: They have allowed six There were six opportunities where teams

680
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: had fourth downs, and they converted all of them. They're

681
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: six or six and giving up fourth down attempts by

682
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: their opponents. So obviously you look at the Cowboys and

683
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy in and the lot has been made about

684
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: how aggressive he tends to be. Do you think this

685
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: is a week where he is a little, even even

686
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: more aggressive on fourth downs knowing that this team has

687
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: not done well so far this season on fourth down attempts.

688
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: Let's start first with you, Dave. I don't. I don't

689
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: first see him being more aggressive. I mean, I mean,

690
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: that's an interesting stat but i'd also have to know

691
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: the context, like are they given have they given? Have

692
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: they given up six fourth downs or three yards or more?

693
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: Or we're five of those fourth downs, fourth and inches

694
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: where you really like your chances to convert no matter what.

695
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: Um So I don't think that's that's gonna make Mike

696
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: McCarthy more aggressive. I just think he has shown through

697
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: three weeks that he's willing to be aggressive pretty consistently.

698
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: So I would guess we're going to see a fourth

699
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: down or tenth or two this weekend. I would guess

700
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: we're going to see them opting to do that over

701
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: special teams plays. But that's just that's just been a

702
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: trend through three weeks, more so than because of anything

703
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: the Browns do. Amber Um, Well, if the if Mike

704
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: McCarthy's stats guy come into the office and present this

705
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: stat I think that McCarthy would probably be like, hmm, okay,

706
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: take note of that, based on the fact that he's

707
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: spoken about statistics before and all that. So I do

708
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: see him going for it. Obviously, it always depends on

709
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: the situation and how many yards you need to convert there.

710
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: But I do see him just based on I see

711
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: him being aggressive, just like he's been so far this season. Nick,

712
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: just it's gonna come down to down in distance and

713
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: just see you know how you know what what situation

714
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: it is. But I do think that you know that

715
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: that means to me that the Browns, you know, are

716
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: not tightening you know, the ship when it when it's

717
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: fourth down. I mean, they're they're able to you know,

718
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: teams are able to convert. And I don't know exactly

719
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: all of those, but I don't think you're going to

720
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: be worried about it as much. All right, And but

721
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: real quick, let's get a couple of fan questions. We

722
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: haven't had chance to get some of those fan questions.

723
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: Let's see if we can get a couple here before

724
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: we end the show. Okay, I have one right here

725
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: that says this person is saying it's been implied a

726
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: few times on the show that Mike Nolan u is

727
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: a great coach. I've gone back to look at the

728
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: teams and the defenses he's been a part of in

729
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: the past. I'm missing something here. What has warranted so

730
00:36:53,880 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: much praise? Mum anyone. I'm trying right here. No, I'm

731
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: trying to think. I'm trying to think of how I

732
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: want to phrase this, and I'd have to go back

733
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: and listen. I think the big thing that I've always

734
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: said with Mike Nolan is experience. I mean if he

735
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: was if he was great, then I think he wouldn't

736
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: have had as many jobs as he's had over the years.

737
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that that's a fair criticism. I

738
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: just think in terms of, you know, what we thought

739
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: bit the Cowboys a lot last year was guys learning

740
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: on the fly. You know, coordinators who are in their

741
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: first year on the job, Guys who don't necessarily have

742
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: a lot of experience. Mike Nolan might not be the

743
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: best coach in the world, but you can't say that

744
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: about him. I mean, he's I imagine he's seen everything

745
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: the NFL can throw at you, and like I've said

746
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: already this week, that gives me optimism that he can

747
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: adapt his game plan to fit what he's working with

748
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: as opposed to other guys that have been here in

749
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: the past. So it's fair though, and maybe that's part

750
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: of the off season hype train that you know, new

751
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: doesn't always mean better, I guess, but I think his

752
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: experience at the very least is valuable. Yeah, I mean

753
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: I think that you know, it's easy to say, well,

754
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: you know when you're doing and implementing a new defense

755
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: that maybe you know it's you're behind the eight ball

756
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: when you don't have as much time to practice and

757
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: you know, with the off season the way it is.

758
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think he's one of those guys

759
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: that's proven to be a pretty good coordinator, a versatile coordinator.

760
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: But you know, through three games, it hasn't it hasn't

761
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: happened yet. But I mean, let's just wait and see.

762
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens when you face you know, the Browns,

763
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: the Giants, the Cardinals. Let's see what happens at these

764
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: three home games, and if we're having a different opinion

765
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: over the defense, if if it's just average, if it's

766
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: still bad, if it's maybe decent. Now, I don't know,

767
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: try to get another question your amber. I think it

768
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: was earlier this week where we saw one of us

769
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: someone mentioned Randy Gregory and the you know when he

770
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: gets back in and all that. So there's a question

771
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: just kind of going back to that whole subject of

772
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: what happens when Randy Gregory gets back into the team.

773
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: How much are you guys expecting him to be of

774
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: an impact? I think I mean I expected that. Go ahead,

775
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead. Nick, I'm sorry, but I think I

776
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: think um McCarthy said he was. He's, you know, making

777
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: some progress, he saith he said that today. But you

778
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: know the good thing about him is that schemes and

779
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: all this stuff. He'll come in at times on third

780
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: and seven, third and nine, and he's got one goal

781
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: and that scheme and that that plan is the same

782
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: when he was at Nebraska, when he was you know,

783
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: in Rod Marinelli's defensees go get the quarterback. So I'm

784
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: not saying it's as simple as that, but you can

785
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: that's a good way to ease him in on passing situations,

786
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: to say, get around, you know, the edge and try

787
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback. Well, we'll continue to work

788
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: with the rest of the scheme. If he can just

789
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: get in and rotate, then that that's enough for me.

790
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: It's funny because you know, maybe Aldon Smith is changing

791
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: people's expectations of what you can do after a long

792
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: time away from the game. But Aldon Smith was also

793
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: a twenty sack all pro at one point during his career.

794
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: We haven't seen that from Randy. So Randy's walking past

795
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: me as we speak out on the practice field. UM,

796
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: I mean the guy had well, he's walking inside. He's

797
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: I'm not giving away strategy. Um, anyway, Um, he had

798
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: he had six sacks in twenty eighteen. You know, I

799
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: think he can rotate start out somewhere between twenty five

800
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: and thirty five percent of the snaps, and I bet

801
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: he can contribute a handful of sacks to this defense

802
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: once he gets up to speed. I have a follow

803
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: up question that real quick and real quick. I want

804
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: to ask these guys, um, like, right now, you look

805
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: at this team and Alton Smith obviously is performing above expectations.

806
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: He's leading the league in sacks, but I think all

807
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: of us would probably agree that you're not getting as

808
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: much pass rush as you may be hoped for from Everson,

809
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: Griffin and uh and from Tank Lawrence. That being said,

810
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: do you think that maybe part of the issue is

811
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: scheme related? We are seeing these guys out and coverage

812
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: some that's not something that that Tank is done, I

813
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: know here before. Do you think that maybe some of

814
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: the things they're asking them to do schematically are affecting

815
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: their ability to be able to be effective pass rushers.

816
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you can say that, but I don't think

817
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: they're in they're in coverage that much. I mean, the

818
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: three four defense is designed for those guys to get

819
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: wide and to kind of really open things up and

820
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. So everything I've ever been told

821
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: about a three four scheme or at least guys that

822
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: are standing up, is that it should allow them to

823
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback more So, I'm not there yet

824
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: to say that it's it's the scheme so much. I

825
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: just don't. I don't know, I don't. I don't think

826
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: that they're as healthy as they need to be or conditioned.

827
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: You know. Remember Griffin was off all off season and

828
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: before he signed with the Cowboys. So I mean, I

829
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: just think that they're they're they're working back into this,

830
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's scheme just yet, Dave.

831
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: Everybody was so sick of the last scheme by the

832
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: time the you know, Rod Marinelli and that staff finally left.

833
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 1: So even if it's not great, I'm just you gotta

834
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: i gotta be a little bit more patient before I'm

835
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: talking about blowing things up three games into a new situation. Um.

836
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: Like I said, though, like I mean, there's there's gotta

837
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: be ways you can tweak to make to make improvements.

838
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: In the meantime, I'd love to see Mike Nolan blitz

839
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: a little bit more often. I don't think the Cowboys

840
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: have done enough of that. But as far as like

841
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: overhauling things, it's you know, it's week four of the

842
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: first year. I'm I'm not there yet, Camber, what do

843
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: you think. Look, I I've never been on a football

844
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: field without wearing heels, so it's tough for me to

845
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: say certain things. But the way I see it, all

846
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: of these guys are a professional level, so there is

847
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: a certain knowledge and expectation once you hit the NFL,

848
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: And to me, I just don't understand how complicated or

849
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: how difficult it is for these guys to be able

850
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: to adapt to something that the coaching staff is doing,

851
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: to be able to adapt to something new. And I

852
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: keep mentioning this because I keep hearing it from certain

853
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: defensive players where they talk about wanting the game to

854
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: be simplified a little, and you know, we talk about

855
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: the secondary and the miscommunication there. So I guess I'm

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Speaker 1: that that could be a problem for them, because I

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Speaker 1: do think it may slow them down just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: have to do that, that slows you down just a tick,

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Speaker 1: And I think maybe not saying it is, but I

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Speaker 1: so far. Early on. All right, we appreciate you guys,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna we'll be back tomorrow and we will break

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Speaker 1: down all the final breakdown that needs to happen, Cowboys

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