1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: CAF I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. We're 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: on the radio one till four, and then after four 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: o'clock you listen to the John and kenn on demand 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: podcast and you pick up anything you missed. It's on 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: the iHeart app. So go do that. 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: In fifteen minutes, our final keyword will be revealed for 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: your chance at some money. The CAFI Inflation Compensation Contest 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: continues and it will continue to four twenty and five 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: twenty with Tim Conway Junior. 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: All Right, a lot to get to this hour. But 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: I guess if you're. 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, you don't really like to look at your 14 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: mail because there could be a letter telling you that 15 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 2: you're a target of an investigation. 16 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: Every few days. The latest comes from the Special Council. 17 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: This is in the federal government, and this deals with 18 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty election results and an investigation to whether 19 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: or not Trump was plotting to overturn those results. 20 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: And overthrow the government. 21 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: One of my. 22 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: Favorite terms in here to the idea of having false electors, 23 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: false state electoral votes, certification of state electoral votes, and 24 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: having false electors. Let's talk to Royal Oaks legal analysts 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: from ABC News about this latest possible indictments. 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: Royal welcome. How are you. 27 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 3: I'm doing great. 28 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 29 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: I probably did ruin Donald Trump's this Sunday evening when 30 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: he got the letter. And it shouldn't come as a shock. 31 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: Although I think a lot of people guys focused on 32 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 3: Jack Smith as special prosecutor, as the guy going after 33 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: the mar Lago documents, the boxes and so on. Remember 34 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 3: Donald Trump just blasted him, calling him a thug and 35 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: a raging lunatic, which seems strange. I mean, it's an 36 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: imperfect analogy. But if you're in San Quentin, you don't 37 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 3: want to call the warden a thug and a lunatic. 38 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: But that's Donald Trump's strategy. But what people didn't know 39 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: is that this guy, Jack Smith, is interested not only 40 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: in the documents but also in what you just described, namely, 41 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: did Donald Trump illegally try to overturn the twenty twenty elections. 42 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: So based on past experience, the fact he got this 43 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: letter saying you're a target, you're invited to come down 44 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: and testify before the grand jury if you like means 45 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: probably in about three weeks we will get another indictment 46 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: number three in the series against Donald Trump. 47 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: So a target means we're likely to indict you. 48 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: Exactly right, if you go back over the experience of 49 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 3: countless people and dealing with these federal prosecutors, that's the 50 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: strong signal. And part of it is just fairness. You 51 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 3: do want to give a target the chance to testify 52 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: before the grand jury if you want. We don't know though, 53 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: what Jack Smith thinks he has it to sleep now. 54 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: It might be you know Donald Trump gave that January 55 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 3: sixth speech, any inside of the riot, or you know 56 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: Donald Trump tried to steal the Georgia election, or ken 57 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: what you were just saying, the electors talk about inside baseball, 58 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: the electors are picked based on the winner in each 59 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: state and they vote in the electoral college. Well, what 60 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: Trump did was he said to himself, Hey, I'm going 61 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: to win my fraud argument, so we better have a 62 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: slate of electors lined up who are partial to me 63 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 3: that can do their job once we win in the court. 64 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: And what Jack Smith, proscutor is saying is no, that 65 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: sounds innocent. It's really not. You're interfering with the legal process. 66 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: It's like falsely reporting a crime. To the cops, and 67 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 3: so that may be one of the crimes the Jack 68 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: Smith is trying to get Donald Trump thought. 69 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: So it could be any of these categories. It could 70 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: be fake electors, it could be the January sixth riot, 71 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: It could be interfering in the Georgia vote. Any or 72 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: all of these could be used as charges against him. 73 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: Exactly right. We don't know which ones that Jack Smith 74 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: might feel he has up his sleeve. But we do know, 75 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: of course, that the Trump counter offensive continues once again. 76 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: He's calling names against Jack Smith. And the thing he 77 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: has going for him short term is, you know, you've 78 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: talked about this. Short term, it's a bonanza for Donald 79 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: Trump to get indicted. He makes millions in fundraising, nobody's 80 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: talking about Chris Christy or any of the other challengers, 81 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: and he gets his counter argument out there. The problem 82 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: is long term public opinion. Pauls say that American public 83 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: isn't too comfortable with somebody running for president if he's 84 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: under a criminal indictment. Well, how about multiplying that by two, 85 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: three or four times. And cynics, of course say, this 86 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: is the Democrat playbook. We want to weaken Donald Trump. 87 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: We don't want to destroy him. We wanted to limp 88 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: into the convention. He'll win. He's the only guy on 89 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: the planet Joe Biden can beat and as a result, 90 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: we've set up a loser. In meantime, all the other Republicans, 91 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 3: you know, they suffocate for lack of oxygen in the room. 92 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: This sounds bigger than a box of documents. 93 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: Though it does feel bigger because people look at the 94 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: document thing and say, Okay, look, if you gave you 95 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: know the name of a CIA agent in Lebanon, find 96 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: you're in deep trouble if you disclose the nuclear codes 97 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 3: to a Wall Street General reporter five. But that didn't happen. 98 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 3: It was just a bunch of stuff in the documents, 99 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: and probably nothing bad happened other than allegedly he broke 100 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: the espionageac But the stuff about overturning an election, and 101 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: people get sensitive about that. Did he inside a riot? 102 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: Was he trying to steal the election? You know? Trump 103 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: has an answer for all this. Trump's answer is it 104 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: was a perfect call, folks. I sincerely believed I won Georgia, 105 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 3: and I wanted fraud investigators to prove it. So that's 106 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: why I called the Secretary of State in Georgia. I said, look, 107 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: just find me twelve thousand votes. That's all I need. Translation, 108 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to ask you to break the law. 109 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: Just work harder at finding fraud, which Rudy Giuliani's unable 110 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: to do because of the hair dye dripping down his face. 111 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: That's the innocent explanation. Jack Smith isn't buying it, and 112 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: Jack Smith is hoping that a jury won't buy it either. 113 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: Well, how long before we might see some excell indictment here? 114 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: Well, the betting is about three or four weeks, could 115 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 3: be in a few days, could be labor day, but 116 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,679 Speaker 3: probably three or four weeks. And then we're all familiar 117 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 3: with the drill from Stormy Daniels in New York and 118 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: Jack Smith's case in Miami. There will be an arraignment 119 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: shortly after the indictment. Trump will show up, he won't 120 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: look happy, he'll plead not guilty, and the judge will 121 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 3: either go along with Trump's side and say, oh, well, 122 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 3: let's set this drought for twenty twenty five. You're a 123 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: busy man, in which case Trump is thinking, Hm, I 124 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: get elected again. I pardon myself. My attorney general just 125 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: misses the case, and everybody's happy. Where's the prosecution? Jack 126 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: Smith will say, oho, you No, justice must be swift, 127 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: you know, we'll give him a little little extra time 128 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: to get ready for trouble, but we'd really like it 129 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 3: in the first half of twenty four. So you get 130 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: the political and the legal issues really intersecting with each other. 131 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: All Right, Royal Oaks, thank you so much for coming 132 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 2: on and giving us all this legal stuff. 133 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: Thank you, you bet all right. 134 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: ABC Legal analyst Royal Oaks on the latest possible indictment 135 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: of former President Trump. Once again, it's coming from the 136 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 2: Special Council and the US Justice Department, and this deals 137 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: with the twenty twenty election results and perhaps Trump's efforts 138 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: to overturn the results which gave the election to Biden. 139 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: Trump is in Iowa and he's doing a town hall 140 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: with Sean Hannity, so I'm sure this will come up 141 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: as part of the discussion. Meanwhile, there is you may 142 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: have heard of them, the No Labels Party, and they're 143 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: calling themselves no Labels for an obvious reason. We're not Democrat, 144 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 2: we're not Republican, we're some sort of moderate central third 145 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: choice for people. And they claim that they will present 146 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: a candidate for a third party by Super Tuesday. If 147 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: it's clear by then that it's going to be Trump 148 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: against Biden, that's they think. That's where the public is 149 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: calling out from an alternative, and that's when they would 150 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: move to nominate somebody. 151 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: They're going for Joe Manchin, the West Virginia Senator who's 152 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: been a pain in the ass to Biden for the 153 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: last two years. Oh yeah, going doesn't vote along the 154 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: party lines. You know, he can run for reelection as 155 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: a senator. Except Trump wins West Virginia with like sixty 156 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: eight sixty nine percent, and the governor of West Virginia 157 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: is running for the same Senate seat. He's a Republican 158 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: and would beat Mansion easy, easily, according to Napoling. So 159 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: Mansion is looking for a way out of that race 160 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: and he needs another job. 161 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: And if it's mansioned, the Democrats think it's going to 162 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: hurt them a bit more. Yeah, obviously he draw some 163 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: votes away from Biden, and he would get a Republican 164 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: vice presidential candidate. One guy that was appearing with him 165 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: was the former Utah Governor John Huntsman. But again, any 166 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: any number of people. 167 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: Is there not people though that's stoke any excitement. I 168 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: guess no, no, it would. It would maybe get a 169 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: certain percentage of people who can't stomach Trump or Biden, right, 170 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: and it would be a protest vote of sorts. I 171 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: don't think they're going to be standing for this for 172 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: something that gets people excited because by their nature they're centrists, 173 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: so they're they're not, they're not. The idea is not 174 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: to be wild. Yeah, and people respond to extreme agendas nowadays. 175 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: It used to be centrists was pretty much the way 176 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: the government has run for many decades, and now they're 177 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: completely out of fashion and now it's it's lunatic time. 178 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of that, when we return, we'll talk about 179 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: somebody described in a Wall Street Journal article by a 180 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: long time political to a consultant as well. His uncle 181 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: Teddy was a mainstream liberal Democrat. RFK is a nutcase. 182 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: That's simply all they had to say about Robert F. 183 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior. He's polling in the teens. We'll talk about 184 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: the odd coalition of people that are supporting him, some 185 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 2: from the far right, some from the left, including some 186 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: tech executives. 187 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: That's next. 188 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: Johnny ken kfi Am six forty live everywhere. iHeartRadio app. 189 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 190 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 191 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: All right, well, he's younger, he's fitter, he's ready. 192 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: We're talking about Robert F. Kennedy junior. He of course, 193 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: is running for the Democratic presidential nomination. He's polling in 194 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: the teens. He gets attention in spurts. I would say 195 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: he's supposed to testify for a House committee soon. But 196 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: there are some who said he should not be allowed 197 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: to testify because well, he's a wacko. The story that 198 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: popped up last week, and I actually read this column. 199 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: You know why I read this column. Kennedy was holding 200 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: court at an Upper east Side restaurant. This is in Manhattan, 201 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: and he started talking about COVID nineteen. But the reason 202 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: I read the column in the New York Post, it 203 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: wasn't exclusive by one of their reporters, is that eventually 204 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: one guy got up and just started blowing out farts everywhere, 205 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: and I just saw, I gotta read this. 206 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: Did you read that column? I did read that. 207 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: Yet two guys got into a fight over climate change, 208 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: and then one of them is starting to rip. 209 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: One of the described as a raucous, booze and fart 210 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: filled dinner. Yeah, he committed his own climate change. 211 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 2: Well, what Kennedy allegedly said is that there's an argument 212 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: that COVID nineteen was ethnically targeted. It attacks certain races disproportionately. 213 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: COVID nineteen is targeted to attack Caucasians and black people. 214 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: The people who are most immune are what is it, 215 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: ash Kannazi, Jews, and Chinese. That's how he put it. 216 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: Later on, he said, I did not say that. I 217 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: said I do believe that they can make biological weapons 218 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: to target people's ethnicities, but I didn't say that. You 219 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: know the thing, but this is all in quotes from 220 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: this reporter. 221 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: So that may that may sound crazy, but there are 222 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: genetic differences between, you know, the different tribes here on 223 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: the planet. But what if you're a whole bunch of 224 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: ethnic backgrounds, Well, I'm going to target you. I don't 225 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: know if they can target someone specifically, but I could 226 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: see theoretically. Now maybe this is on the edge of 227 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: science fiction. I don't know, but I could see that 228 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: they could adjust the virus so that it attacks, you know, 229 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: certain genetic properties that a certain tribe hash. I don't 230 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that's that's what he's claiming he actually said, 231 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: but of course obviously it gets a lot more attention 232 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: when it's going to get He did it to spare 233 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: the Chinese and some certain Jewish people. You know, you 234 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: can't talk out loud and just brainstorm or just talk 235 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: off the top of your head in an yeah, because 236 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: you have all these these these jackals who intentionally distort 237 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: and amplify, amplify and edit it and put it on 238 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: social media, and then it gets further exaggerated by the press. 239 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know exactly what he said. 240 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll never know exactly what he said, but it 241 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: is interesting and I think that might be possible. I 242 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: think it might be possible that people might have a 243 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: genetic predisposition depending on how this virus was in the 244 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: midst of being manufactured. They weren't doing enhancements on it, 245 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: and it was paid for by the US government and FAUCI, 246 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: And that's what these Chinese researchers were doing. They were enhancing, 247 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: they were changing the virus. Maybe they thought they were 248 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: doing it for a good reason, maybe it was for 249 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: a bad reason, but they were doing it, and you 250 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: can do it, and who knows how far you can 251 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: go with it and the idea, Well, just because you 252 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: use the word Jews or Chinese, all you can't say 253 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: at least we can't say that. Well, all right, so 254 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: too bad. If you don't like it, cover your ears 255 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: and you know, go to your mommy. 256 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: Except when you're running for president and you present this 257 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: without any evidence, it does become something that can be attacked. 258 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: It's not just an opinion by a guy in a bar. 259 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: But if you're talking privately among among people, you can't 260 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: say whatever you want. And you know people, things have 261 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: to be presented in their proper contexts accurately. Well, he 262 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: was holding court in a restaurant rather publicly, so I 263 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't say it was a private conversation. So yeah, but 264 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: it wasn't exactly a public conversation either. It was a conversation. 265 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 266 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: It's just it's just you know what, you know what, 267 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: I Robert Kennedy's insane. I grant that, but I do. 268 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: I am interested in people who have unusual ideas. I 269 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: am interested in people look at things a different way. 270 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: I don't think the consensus route is working for us. 271 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: Everybody agreed on the consensus of COVID, and it turned 272 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: out they were wrong about a lot of things, and 273 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: some things we were outright lied to. So I don't 274 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: trust these consensuses, and I am interested in the one guy, 275 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, out by himself with a different idea. You 276 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: could just listen. You don't have to agree, you don't 277 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: have to have a heart attack over it. 278 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: He of course says, claimed the childhood vaccines are linked 279 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: to autism, The CIA killed his uncle, and he's wondered 280 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: whether Wi Fi exposure leads to cancer. He's getting support 281 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: from sort of a couple of odd coalitions, some of 282 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: the right wing conspiracy theorist people, particularly on the vaccines 283 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: and such like what he's having to say, and Wall 284 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: Street Journal to destroy that. 285 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: Some of the tech people. 286 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: Are warming to him too, although they've supported losers before. 287 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: Remember this Twitter co founder Jack Dorsey. Well, these guys 288 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: are anarchists. They believe in disruption and destruction of society. 289 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: That's what turns them on. That's what what was What 290 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: was Facebook's model moved fa and break things, and it 291 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: became the motto for all the Silicon Valley executives. It's like, 292 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: you know, let's disrupt let's pour venture. I was just 293 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: reading an article on how Uber was financed. Uber has 294 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: lost billions and billions of dollars. But the idea was 295 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: undercut all the taxi cab prices and oh yeah, and then. 296 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: Create this, this this monstrous momentum that Uber was taking 297 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: over that world. Go public, cash out, you're a billionaire. 298 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: Now. 299 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: That was the plan and it worked. You know if 300 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: you when. 301 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: Uber went cash out before it all, call it. Well, 302 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: that's what the venture capitalized do. 303 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: They put in a lot of money, they suffer big losses, 304 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: and then they cash out at the back end when 305 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: the price is high. And now you know they've left 306 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: it for dead, basically because everyone agrees there's no chance 307 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: for Uber or lyft to ever make a profit unless 308 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: they have driverless cars. That because you just have to 309 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: pay the drivers too much money, right for a profit. 310 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: Uh and and and and so they they've created a 311 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: business that cannot succeed unless there is some incredible innovation 312 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: that hasn't quite perfected, been perfected yet, right. 313 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: Well, some of them like him because he combats the 314 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: pharmaceutical companies. Some believe he's a Kennedy is a big 315 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: believer in the free markets, so the tech people would 316 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: be more free to do this stuff they have. With 317 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: all this talk about regulation, he's just drawing sort of 318 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: this odd sort of collection of it seems diametrically opposed 319 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: to people and their political philosophy. Yeah, except he there's 320 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: a common theme is he's rebelling against all the established antstity. 321 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: Right now, looking at Biden and Trump, a lot of 322 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: people are looking for anybody that sounds different. 323 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the established entities. You know, the these uh you know, 324 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: the pharmaceutical companies are abusive and and nobody speaks out 325 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: against them. The media doesn't speak out against them. Look, look, 326 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: look on any pharmaceutical commercials are on television. Do you 327 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: think you're going to get one of the mainstream networks 328 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: to run expose on how corrupt and destructive and dangerous 329 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: a lot of the drugs are from the pharmaceutical companies. No, 330 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: of the most of the commercials on a newscast are 331 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: for drugs because their audience is older. All right, we 332 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: got more coming up. Johnny Ken I AM six forty 333 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: Live everywhere iHeartRadio app. 334 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 335 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 336 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: Just follow up for a second, because I was talking 337 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: about Robert Kennedy is going after certain big business interests. 338 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: That story I told you about Uber. Do you know 339 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: there was a venture capital company called Benchmark that invested 340 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: twelve million dollars into Uber and they walked away with 341 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: five point eight billion after it went public and they 342 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: cashed in. Even though the company itself never has made 343 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: it do Benchmark made five point eight billion from the ANA. 344 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: I considered that smart smart investing. Well, yeah, but there 345 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: was I'd have thought of it, but there was no 346 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: make sure you turned before the whole thing goes south 347 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: because it's unsustainable. They did, but I mean there was 348 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: no wealth created, is what I'm saying. No, they got 349 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: five point eight billion out of thin air. That's off 350 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: another stock market works. Yeah, no profits. 351 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: No, Because you know people always say, oh, if I 352 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: only I bought Apple stock in nineteen eighty two, right, yeah, 353 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: and that's still going today, and that'd be worth a 354 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: lot of money. 355 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: But you know what if Apple had gone south after 356 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: a few years and should have cashed out, they say 357 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: that just the chance you take. But the venture capitalists 358 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: put money in and in any for any particular investment, 359 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter if the company ever goes profitable. 360 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: Uber may never ever turn a profit until it goes 361 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: out of business or it gets sold or merged or something. 362 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: But it's about investing and creating hype and then getting out. 363 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 2: Now, then it's the idiots that came before. We got 364 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: fool by the pyramid scheme that's gone. It's too bad. 365 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: That's kind of the American way. Yeah, I know, it's 366 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 2: a sucker born every minute, But I think you know. 367 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: That's that's what Kennedy is speaking to to extent that 368 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: you know this, this whole system's rigged here that goat me, 369 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: it's not I still can't believe he's going to get 370 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: any traction with that goat boye. No, Biden's not going 371 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: to debate him, So he's just gonna do a bunch 372 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: of forum. You imagine that Biden and Robert Kennedy or. 373 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 2: Kennedy, I said to Ted over Ted over here, speaking 374 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: of Biden, he's come back with a new plan to 375 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: forgive student debt. It's a lot smaller than the first one. 376 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: The one the Supreme Court struck down would have cost 377 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: four hundred billion. This one, they're saying would be about 378 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: thirty nine billion, eight hundred and four thousand borrowers. 379 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: It's kind of complex. It deals with the rules of repayment. 380 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: It can cap your monthly payment plan, and eventually you 381 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 2: could end up having the whole thing forgiven. So he's 382 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: trying to come in a smaller side door. He people 383 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 2: still wonder whether or not this is legal, but they 384 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: believe it doesn't rely on the same legal premise that 385 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: we use to try to forgive most of. 386 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: The student loan debt, the big bills that the Supreme 387 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: Court turned aside. 388 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 2: So several experts I'm reading say this is on really 389 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 2: sound legal footing. 390 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: This plan so well, it is much smaller. They're using 391 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: the excuse that this program had administrative errors. Yes, improperly 392 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: calculated the amount of money that was owed and what 393 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: the schedule should be to pay it back. 394 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: And it unfairly or it didn't keep back your track 395 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: of your progress toward forgiveness. Because apparently you can have 396 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: your debt automatically discharged the way the program worked depending 397 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: on your income level. 398 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: And so far it. 399 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: Says here barers who make regular payments generally for twenty 400 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: to twenty five years get the remaining own balances erased. 401 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: And the Biden administration's claiming that the government hasn't kept. 402 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: Up the Department of Education with people who qualify. It's 403 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: too complicated for anybody to get upset about. Yeah, probably 404 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: it is. I'm sure somebody will challenge it. 405 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 2: The other story been watching that deals with the Biden 406 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 2: administration is the well, what's gonna happen to Julie Sue. 407 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: Julie Sue used to head the Labor Department in California, 408 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 2: and of course she was the dunce that oversaw the 409 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: debacle with all the fraud that was taken from our 410 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: unemployment department, the education development to an employment development department, 411 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: And of course she was rewarded with a promotion to Washington. 412 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 2: She became Deputy Labor Secretary, and now she's acting Labor Secretary. 413 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: She's probably not gonna get it confirmed because a couple 414 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: of Democrats among them, there's Joe Manchin again. 415 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: John, it's not gonna vote for her because she's an 416 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: incompetent boob. It's not gonna vote for she should not 417 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: be anywhere near government. You blow thirty billion dollars, you 418 00:21:55,119 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: gave it away to fraudsters. You're sending checks to death 419 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: row inmates Scott Peterson. Of course she should never be 420 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: near government, but then. 421 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: Also she's a big proponent of Assembly built five Yeah, destroyed. 422 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: We were just talking about the uber drivers and stuff, 423 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: the self employed people of California. They want to bring 424 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: that to the federal level, probably with her at the helm. Well, 425 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: the update is it probably doesn't matter. She can be 426 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: what they call the forever nominee. Apparently the way the 427 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: laws work, particularly when it comes to the Labor Department, 428 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: is that she can perform the duties until a successor 429 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: is appointed. That means if no successors ever appointed, she 430 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 2: will continue to perform the duties. So she may have 431 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: the title of Acting Secretary of Labor as long as 432 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: Biden is president, which good end tomorrow and half from 433 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: now tomorrow or a year and a half from now, 434 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: or whatever if he loses in twenty twenty four. But 435 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 2: many other federal job openings are governed by the Vacancy Act, 436 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 2: which requires replacements for certain federally a she's within a 437 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 2: time constraint of two hundred and ten days, but the 438 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: Labor Department doesn't fall under that. So possibly the strategy 439 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: here the Biden administration is to just make her a 440 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: forever nominee, and if it never gets voted on in 441 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: the Senate, she'll just sit there as the acting Secretary 442 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: until the end of time. 443 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: We should do a gool pool just for Biden. What 444 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: does that mean? Everybody selects a date and time and 445 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: the closest ends up winning, even if that's twenty years 446 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: from now. No, no, I'll be twenty Could we have 447 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: the Secret Service coming to our door. No, no, we're 448 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: just just a betting operation. I see. But yeah, we 449 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: could put like a year and a half timeframe on 450 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: it between now an inauguration day of twenty twenty five. Oh, 451 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: they have to pick a date within that time yeah, yeah, yeah, no, 452 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: but we could do that. Nobody. That's a super gold pool. 453 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah right, googbl. 454 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer said, I think she'll be a very good 455 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: labor secretary. 456 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: We're working hard to get her approved. 457 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 4: Now. 458 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: Remember they eventually got Garcetti approved. We thought that was dead. Yeah, 459 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: if your Republicans. 460 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: Voted for him. I don't think any Republicans are voting 461 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: for her. Yeah, I mean they're both incompetent boobs. This 462 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: is just an indictment of everything in the private sector. 463 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: These people would not be considered for anything responsible. 464 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 2: Says here, there are only one vote short. She wouldn't 465 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: say who it is, but it's Joe Manchin obviously. Yeah, 466 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: he declared a few days ago he's not voting for her. 467 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: Well, they need they would need another vote because they 468 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: have a fifty one to forty nine edge. That would 469 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 1: make it fifty to fifty with Mansion, and then there 470 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: must be some other Democrat against against her as well. Well, 471 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: but now you know that it's it's a rigged system anyway. 472 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: She doesn't matter if she has the official title or not. 473 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: She's failing upwards. All from California. Took all these awful 474 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: cabinet members. Oh yeah, they're all from California. 475 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 3: Right. 476 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: Senator is a cabinet member. Vice President's politics, it's they're 477 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: bad at their job. I don't think it's a political 478 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: issue to give away thirty billion dollars to criminals. That's 479 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: not a Democrat or Republican thing. That's just wow, you stink. 480 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: John and Kent caf I AM six forty live everywhere 481 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: I heard radio app. 482 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 483 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 484 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're almost dumb. 485 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 2: But you can check out the show on Johnny Ken 486 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: on demand, KFIAM six forty dot com, the iHeart Radio app. 487 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: A story that. 488 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 2: Popped up this morning got a lot of attention because 489 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 2: it would be rather unusual for any American to defect 490 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: to North Korea. But the update is it was a 491 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 2: US soldier. He was being sent home because well, he 492 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: had actually been in prison on some assault charges, and 493 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: I guess he didn't want to face military discipline, so 494 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: he blended in with a group of tourists. 495 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: He was being sent on from South Korea, by the. 496 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,239 Speaker 2: Way, blended in with a group of tourists who were 497 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 2: bound for the demilitarized zone, and then he bolted across 498 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 2: the border into North Korea. 499 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: Good luck, Travis King. So he's an. 500 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 2: American private second class Travis King not wearing handcuffs? Is 501 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: he being escorted by military police as far as they 502 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: could go, which is a security checkpoint at the airport. 503 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: He then ran and blended in with this tour group, 504 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: made his way to the demilitarized zone, and then bolted 505 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 2: across the border where he was grabbed by North Korean police. 506 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: And they now have them, so know them. We don't 507 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: know you don't get much out of North Korea as 508 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: far as information or anything. 509 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: Well, is he is he Korean? Is that his ethnicity 510 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: or no? No? 511 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: He enlisted in January of twenty twenty one. He had 512 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: just been released from a South Korean prison where he'd 513 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: been held on assault charges. He was facing additional military 514 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: disciplinary actions that was going to be returned to Fort Bliss, Texas. 515 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 2: I guess he decided he'd take his chances in North Korea. 516 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: So he just bolted. Yeah, it was hard to find 517 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: a photo of him. He's black and he's from Stayed 518 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: says he has a connection to Wisconsin. Yeah, his mother 519 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: lives in Racine, Wisconsin. We have American military who are 520 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: obviously in North He wasn't going to visit the homeland. 521 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: I did no, no, no, no, he doesn't want to. 522 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 2: Whatever the assault charges were, and maybe he thought the 523 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: road ahead was so bad that he would take his 524 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: chances in North Korea. 525 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: So, uh, well, I mean they're up with the plan. Yeah, 526 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: he was going to face disciplinary action. Oh so he 527 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: thought that going there North boy, oh boy, he is 528 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: not thinking straight. 529 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: No, that's not gonna work. I don't know that we're 530 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 2: going to do a lot to get him back. It 531 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: depends on the family. I let him know he's nuts. 532 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: You know. 533 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: This is the first time since August of nineteen sixty two. 534 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: And man by the name of Jane Drasnach also defected 535 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: North Korea. According to his sons, he was still there 536 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: when he died of a stroke in twenty sixteen. 537 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: He's not mentally well. He stayed there from nineteen sixty 538 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: two to twenty sixteen. Yeah, he lived. I think he married. 539 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I saw a story on him a 540 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 2: few years ago when he died. You know, you can 541 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: take a tour of the DMC. It's been ongoing since 542 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: the nineteen sixties. Private companies will take you right there 543 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: on the border between the two nations. And yeah, there's 544 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: a vacation where what's his name of shooting missiles? Right, Yeah, 545 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: let's go to the demilitarized zone. 546 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: Is it all inclusive? That's a good question. 547 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: Right, comes with a special appearance by the Korea the 548 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: North leader. 549 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: Right. Part of me one Jung Whu, whatever his name is, 550 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: Kim Jong ong, part of me wants to go to 551 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 1: weird places like that. Oh, I do too. That's a 552 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: tough sell at home, though, but. 553 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: I considered a trip to South Korea this year, but 554 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: just it look like I didn't work out logistically. 555 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have gone to the 556 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: DMZ if I was there, but I could toured North 557 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: Korea Iran. When's I like to go to Russia right now? No, 558 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: I guess not. I went to Russia once. Yeah, that's 559 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: before all this, I know right now. No, No, you 560 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 1: get thrown out of a hotel window, it's no fun. No, 561 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: just say you love putin, that's fun. Conway's here. 562 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 5: Hey, now, but if you went to Russia and you 563 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 5: didn't get kidnapped, would you find that offensive? Like they 564 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 5: grabbed grinder of kidnapped. 565 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,239 Speaker 1: I mean, not important enough to kidnap. When I was 566 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: in Russia, I did feel a little nervous because we 567 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: were work here at a radio station, right and I 568 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: just assumed that they track that stuff, like who works 569 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: for American media and maybe we'd be spies. I thought 570 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: of that too. Yeah, so I was a little nervous 571 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: because my wife and I I don't know why we 572 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: did this. We actually left our kids on the cruise 573 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: boat and they were much smaller than so that we 574 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: took a limo or a taxi to go see the 575 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: Russian opera. Wow, and I know the Russian Ballet. I've 576 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: never seen who with somebody the cruise ship had on 577 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: board to god, Yeah, this is like the wackiest thing 578 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: we ever did as parents. So so our three kids 579 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: are being cared for by some stranger who works for 580 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: the cruise ship. We're in an unmarked cab. We're going 581 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: through Saint Petersburg and I realized I have no idea 582 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: where we are or where we and I start getting 583 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: a little panicky and started getting parandoid. It's like, maybe 584 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: they're going to take us off and we're gonna end 585 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: up in a Russian prison. 586 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 5: And how was the Russian Ballet? Actually it's really cool. 587 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 5: I'm going to buy you a book. 588 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 589 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 5: It's helped my relationship out immensely. It's called how to 590 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 5: Say No. 591 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: Mark Thompson's Russian Ballet. 592 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 6: Spent a short time there myself as a performer, three 593 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 6: years in the Russian Ballet. 594 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: You go to weird places, don't you, Mark? 595 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 6: I try to later? Can I'm going to weird place 596 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 6: later tonight? 597 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: Actually? Where you going to a poker game? Oh? 598 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 6: Okay, it starts there, but you never know when you're 599 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 6: gonna end up in a private car. 600 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: I had a friend who went to a RAM and yeah, 601 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: that that that I'd be. That's another country on the 602 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: list interested in. Yeah, I want to go to weird places, 603 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: dangerous places. He went there three years ago. Wow, has 604 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: he been back. He's not been back. No, he wrote 605 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: him off. That's a wrap on it. Anyway, tonight we 606 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: got a lot of news. Yeah, well thanks, that's it. 607 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 6: But he's reading literally seeing it for the verse. There's 608 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,719 Speaker 6: any interesting. To be fair to Tim, he has to 609 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 6: decide what things that's about. 610 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 5: That'spen in and Out is barring their employees from wearing masks, 611 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 5: and the opposite is happening across the street at Whole Food. 612 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: Everybody's got a mask. Yeah, yeah, high intensity of masks 613 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: per I don't. 614 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 5: Know if you missed the pandemic, like the first two 615 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 5: weeks of it and you want to go back in time. 616 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: Both foods, foods, Absolutely, they're in the first two weeks. 617 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 6: When you go to a fast food place. It doesn't 618 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 6: better to see people wearing a mask. Though I'm not 619 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 6: saying they have to wear it, but I think that's 620 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 6: great see the face. I don't want to see the 621 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 6: face near my burger. 622 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: But this is why they don't spit on your meal. 623 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 6: But they might have diseases, that's right, and there are 624 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 6: other things besides that. COVID stow there can sneeze on 625 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 6: your burger. 626 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: Well they're infected. 627 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 5: But you remember In and Out was one of the 628 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 5: first places that says we're not allowing you in with 629 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 5: a mask. 630 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: And we're not going to check your back. Right, yeah, no, 631 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: backs idea, you're right, they're going for it all right. Conways, next, 632 00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: Thompson to side order live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 633 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 634 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 2: You can always hear us live on kf I Am 635 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: six forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 636 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.