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Speaker 1: First off, how you feeling? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: We always like to check the energy. Yeah, I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm ready to go, You're ready to go.
Speaker 1: I feel it, I feel I feel Let's start all
Speaker 1: the way from the beginning. Man, how did how did
Speaker 1: you get tired in oh, the legendary movement, the iconic
Speaker 1: movement BMF UM. Well, I had a friend of from
Speaker 1: Saint Louis, so I used to run run with and shit,
Speaker 1: you know, he's always bring me down here in the line.
Speaker 1: He's like, man, you know you need to move down here,
Speaker 1: and you know, go back home and do what you
Speaker 1: do whatever. And so one day you know, I just
Speaker 1: played the PlayStation and ship when I was you know,
Speaker 1: back then, and uh, he just called like, man, I
Speaker 1: got my homeboys down there from the DP. He's like, shit,
Speaker 1: motherfuckers want to play you in the game. Like cool,
Speaker 1: He's like, and they smoke weed. What how let's go,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He took me over to
Speaker 1: their career. They had a house in Decator, Uh walking
Speaker 1: Like I said, I walked in the crib and man,
Speaker 1: you know, you just you could just see it like
Speaker 1: niggas everywhere, you know what I'm saying, nice house, smoke,
Speaker 1: the house smoky, you know, a couple of chicks running
Speaker 1: around and all that shit. So like he took me
Speaker 1: and just I mean, a dude there, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I was like, man, that's cool, but
Speaker 1: or the PlayStation there, you know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: don't even think I'm trying to play the game with
Speaker 1: me some money and smoke some weed. So I end
Speaker 1: up playing one of his partners. Bye bye, I lost
Speaker 1: eight hundred, you know what I'm saying. And and that's
Speaker 1: how my first introduction, you know, to him. But I
Speaker 1: didn't really talked to him then you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But that's how I first That's when I first met him.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Time, why do you think
Speaker 1: why do you think that? Uh, why do you why
Speaker 1: do you think that it went so well for that movement,
Speaker 1: meaning as in it became so successful, There was so
Speaker 1: much money made, there was so much history made. Why
Speaker 1: do you think that that movement was so successful as
Speaker 1: opposed to a lot of other street movements. Um, you
Speaker 1: know if you see those out back, then you you
Speaker 1: you like Dann Niggas moved like you know, a cool
Speaker 1: lad hood as militant type way. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We had We had rules that was understood, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and we followed them rules and and
Speaker 1: ship we had a long lit run. So I would
Speaker 1: say just about you know, not willing us willing to
Speaker 1: take you know, you know, orders or commands or you know,
Speaker 1: ideas from another guy, a group of guys that you know,
Speaker 1: we really didn't didn't know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Because our crew, my side of the crew, uh was
Speaker 1: was was like a Milton pot you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We had I'm an you know Brooklyn, St. Louis. We
Speaker 1: all different types of la different types of guys around us.
Speaker 1: Whereas to ask, no, t he had more Detroit, you
Speaker 1: know on a few a few outside of Saint Louis,
Speaker 1: gays and all that shit. But yeah, I just moving
Speaker 1: like a militant, ready to take orders, execute them. And
Speaker 1: you know, dude, we had to do and we had
Speaker 1: a nice little run, you know for before the fall.
Speaker 1: So I want to take it back just like a
Speaker 1: little bit more like all the way back to the
Speaker 1: very beginning, like growing up in Saint Louis, Like, what
Speaker 1: was that like for you? Me? I was a little
Speaker 1: guy to play sports. You know, football was my main sports.
Speaker 1: Ship did you were like almost boarding wine pro? Right? Well,
Speaker 1: not pro? I was. I was a highly recruited athlete
Speaker 1: out of high schools in the hood. It was the hood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't go to college and ship,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I was. I was. I was really nice
Speaker 1: in football, man. So growing up for me was my
Speaker 1: you know, to get through what the property that I
Speaker 1: grew up in was playing sports. I wasn't thinking about
Speaker 1: new drugs and ship like that. But you know, growing
Speaker 1: up in Saint Louis, in the area where motherfuckers die
Speaker 1: every other day and all that ship. As a kid,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, walking two miles to the
Speaker 1: football practice and all that shit. That's how I coat
Speaker 1: with my childhood growing up, playing football, running track, playing baseball.
Speaker 1: I played softball when I got older. Okay, no, we
Speaker 1: got a softball team for all drug gillers just before
Speaker 1: the meat and you know I met them and Ship.
Speaker 1: So I played in the Black World League. Uh it was.
Speaker 1: It was a league were mostly blacks. You can have
Speaker 1: probably like I think three nine blacks, or you could
Speaker 1: be a white guy, Asian in it whatever on your team,
Speaker 1: but most of the teams was all black and it
Speaker 1: was very talented. So yeah, I played softball and on
Speaker 1: the streets before I went to prison. I played all
Speaker 1: through prison and I haven't played SHIP since I've been home,
Speaker 1: but I think I was. But yeah, softball got me
Speaker 1: through the you know, my older years, and Ship that
Speaker 1: would all be doing so like usually like when you
Speaker 1: hear about like niggas that were good at sports and
Speaker 1: you know like turned to the streets or whatever, like
Speaker 1: it was because they got hurt or you know, they
Speaker 1: got injured and they weren't able to play sports anymore.
Speaker 1: So was that your case or what was your actual
Speaker 1: introduction to the streets. So out of um, you know,
Speaker 1: some little young partners back then, right be I was
Speaker 1: still in high school, but I was transitionally, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to think about what college is going to go
Speaker 1: to an honor ship, right And one of my partners
Speaker 1: call us up to this high school and we went
Speaker 1: up there in the nigga stole a course system out
Speaker 1: of the su Suzuki jeeps the speakers that a ship.
Speaker 1: So we go up there. He's still in the Dude
Speaker 1: that call us up there to get the ship told him,
Speaker 1: so they come, my my pots. My stepfather had passed
Speaker 1: away and it was doing his you know, after the
Speaker 1: repass and all this ship. We got the house, child,
Speaker 1: I got the speakers set up in my basems bumping
Speaker 1: the ship. I don't hook it up in the house. Um,
Speaker 1: the police come there and ain't locked me up. So
Speaker 1: make a long story short, I end up getting on papers.
Speaker 1: And I didn't know the system. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: you could be on probation and ship and and you
Speaker 1: know you still go off to college. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So right then, and there I knew. I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I ain't gonna do this. My mom
Speaker 1: passed away after that, my father and Ship, all right, man,
Speaker 1: fuck this shit, I ain't gonna do that. I need
Speaker 1: some paper. So I went over my one of my partners.
Speaker 1: He's in the game, you know, in the game back
Speaker 1: then he was. He was one of them guys that
Speaker 1: was getting money. So I went up, went down to
Speaker 1: the todayhood on the north Side and just going to
Speaker 1: fuck around with I wasn't even going to ask them
Speaker 1: for no work, you know, ship like that, But I
Speaker 1: was just gonna kind of like being up being around,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like just trying to learn
Speaker 1: how he moved and sh not know how he recovered
Speaker 1: playing sports, to all the ways to graduated from high
Speaker 1: school and this story. Trying to just hang around with
Speaker 1: the hood niggas. I had to get around my brother,
Speaker 1: and he showed me the way. You know, just watch,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna fast learning. So I brought up that
Speaker 1: sit on the bid and Ship they up there. He
Speaker 1: up there, him and him and his homeboy, wearing up
Speaker 1: some weight, no houses on a triple being scared. You know,
Speaker 1: he said, triple that shit old as fuck, you know,
Speaker 1: from back then. But I just asked like, man, let
Speaker 1: me get it. Let me let me get one of them.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He threw me, threw me
Speaker 1: houns I when I made the money and you know,
Speaker 1: spent the money, you know, and I started ducking him
Speaker 1: after that. You know, he caught up women like yeah,
Speaker 1: well yeah yeah, but you know he he was like, man,
Speaker 1: don't do that shit, bro, don't you ain't gotta do that.
Speaker 1: You got a problem, just first of all, just try
Speaker 1: to talk about it. Come hollow me or somebody or
Speaker 1: whoever you owe. Just how I let him man and
Speaker 1: get an understanding. Yeah, you know, and you know in
Speaker 1: the streets, they give you, they give you a second
Speaker 1: and maybe a third chance to try to make that
Speaker 1: money back up some money. Yeah yeah. So so he
Speaker 1: gave me a good tip talking of hustling, and he
Speaker 1: gave him some more work, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of that's how I got introduced to drugs,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he said, story, beauty
Speaker 1: from down From that point, I always want to ask
Speaker 1: me shit like that, who being the type of situation
Speaker 1: and so many niggas fold and ship. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Which one of them niggas like shoted you
Speaker 1: like you had you food, like the bigg disappointment, like
Speaker 1: the nigga bitch on our case, Yeah, y'all case um
Speaker 1: one on them it's blue, Um. Another one is e.
Speaker 1: Now from a level you know which blue Blue devenure?
Speaker 1: What Blue do shit? He didn't do what we did.
Speaker 1: I thought they said one never no paperwork gonna blue man.
Speaker 1: Let me. I'm finished fling this ship one more time.
Speaker 1: Everybody know I'm a real nigga and I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: lie about ship, none of that. Jab Ja just be
Speaker 1: around us back then, and Jay, she know how I am. Um.
Speaker 1: It was a situation where we was already locked up
Speaker 1: on two thousand and ten. They came and got me
Speaker 1: out of prison. I didn't know where I was, where
Speaker 1: I was going. I don't know what it was for.
Speaker 1: It was a wanted so of course you know you
Speaker 1: gotta go ship. You already know motherfucker's custody. So they
Speaker 1: flew me to Uh. I end up going to Uh.
Speaker 1: What's that ship? Love Jordan? And yeah, I loved Jorge.
Speaker 1: I know I've been learned um, so they they ain't
Speaker 1: up getting It took about ten hours for me to
Speaker 1: get to my pot. So I got to my pot.
Speaker 1: It took to twelve minutes to tell me to pack
Speaker 1: your ship back up and come back downstairs. You feel
Speaker 1: to go to the hole. That's what I'm saying. What
Speaker 1: the fuck I'm going to the hole for? They're like, well,
Speaker 1: you got thirteen separates. You know, a separates it's somebody
Speaker 1: that told on your case or on you. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, you can't be around, separate, separateise,
Speaker 1: they're gonna keep you separate. Is it basically like like
Speaker 1: an absentee is somebody that's absent you gotta stay separate
Speaker 1: from and and minute a microphone and the same jail.
Speaker 1: They're gonna put that motherfucker away. Ain't on the side
Speaker 1: of the jail. So he said A nigga's separate tea.
Speaker 1: He guaranteed to be honest, he said something, but he
Speaker 1: kept but not only I couldn't I couldn't be around.
Speaker 1: I couldn't see him. So that's the whole key right there.
Speaker 1: I couldn't see him, So they feel like you're gonna
Speaker 1: intimidate him. Exactly. So I was like when they talked,
Speaker 1: I got a guard, like, shit, is anybody in this part?
Speaker 1: They're like, nah, why the funk I gotta go. You
Speaker 1: can't see him. They told me this. I'm like, damn fuck.
Speaker 1: So they put me the home. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I end up going to court. Well, they wasn't even court.
Speaker 1: It was some other ship they were trying to see.
Speaker 1: If we want to tell them who like tribunal? I
Speaker 1: probably yeah, yeah, so so he was the last person
Speaker 1: I think I called on that case. So I try
Speaker 1: some evidence. Well, they were just trying to see the motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I want to tell, get you some time, cut and
Speaker 1: get him, you know yeah, lock him in case he
Speaker 1: goes all this ship before case you go to try
Speaker 1: to go bring you witnesses in and your ass did
Speaker 1: see if you see if you don't got damn good.
Speaker 1: See if you read the phone like by you read it,
Speaker 1: we got something you type when I made it up
Speaker 1: to the Christmas when I made it upstairs, not a courtroom.
Speaker 1: They walked me through to an office. When I'm watching
Speaker 1: the office, all you know, like a longer table said
Speaker 1: about twelve people and it's all da you know, ages
Speaker 1: look like a parole here. Look I'm walking. I'm like, damn, like,
Speaker 1: what's going on. They ain't mister Brown trying to be
Speaker 1: all nice and sh ain't mister Brown. We just want
Speaker 1: to see if you know, it's a rude thirty five
Speaker 1: and all that. I said, rude thirty five, I said.
Speaker 1: I said, no, it's it's a rule where you just
Speaker 1: get some time. You know what it is it five way?
Speaker 1: What is the five K one or some shit like that.
Speaker 1: But the rude they're talking about, like a rudely rude
Speaker 1: thirty five or rudy let it's something like they basically
Speaker 1: asking you if you want to schnitz within their language exactly.
Speaker 1: So when they started saying that, I'm shaking my head
Speaker 1: and just hold on just all I said, sir, ma'am,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but you know, y'all know type of person.
Speaker 1: N y'all know y'all could have just add from that
Speaker 1: while I was in prison, and I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I said, yeah, I brought all way over here
Speaker 1: to say this. Ship. I said, man, look I don't
Speaker 1: I don't made my bed. I'm cool with that. I'm
Speaker 1: ready to go lay back in my bed. And when
Speaker 1: when they say that, like we're here taking my card on,
Speaker 1: I don't want your cart, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I like, just put me back in my cell. I
Speaker 1: thought I was going to court and for what I
Speaker 1: didn't know because i'm my cases. Oh you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like and it was about that ship, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So when I got back to
Speaker 1: my to my my whole, I wasn't on disciplinary so
Speaker 1: I can use the phone, you know, or the commissary
Speaker 1: and shit, they just had me back to it because
Speaker 1: of the separate ship. So couz O came through the
Speaker 1: chip two, cus O and d Shot and I end
Speaker 1: up telling cus Or what was going on. We got
Speaker 1: a chance to go outside the wreck and I told
Speaker 1: him what was going on. He's like, you already know
Speaker 1: I ain't gotta worry about me and all that shit.
Speaker 1: I know, I said, I know. I was just let
Speaker 1: you know what. They won't because we ain't got no court,
Speaker 1: no court. It's they're trying to see if you want
Speaker 1: to tear type shit. They brought him through, flew them out.
Speaker 1: D Shot come through wet to screamed through the through
Speaker 1: the through the vik because they want to let us
Speaker 1: talk to each other no more. So I told him
Speaker 1: what it was. They took him the court, he went home.
Speaker 1: They kept me back in their bitch about three weeks,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, until they finally came and
Speaker 1: got me. So I called my home girl d out like,
Speaker 1: look they trying to see tell Mars. They're trying to
Speaker 1: see if a motherfucker I want to tell on On Woo.
Speaker 1: And I was like, they got me in love Joy.
Speaker 1: Now this was the seaport. Come here in there. She said,
Speaker 1: you a love Joy. She said ship blue in love Joy.
Speaker 1: I said, dr Blue, not in love Joy because it's blue,
Speaker 1: was in love Joy. And he wasn't telling he would
Speaker 1: be back here in the hole with meat and d
Speaker 1: shot and hid because never came back there. So when
Speaker 1: niggas say they need paperwork, I'm the paperwork. Yes, motherfucker know,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna sit there. And if I know the
Speaker 1: rule in prison, if a motherfuckers said you hot, you
Speaker 1: gotta produce paperwork, saying this nigga hot, well in this case,
Speaker 1: when I ain't got no paperwork, I'm the paperwork. I know.
Speaker 1: If the nigga wasn't telling he would be back there
Speaker 1: with me. You see what I'm saying, like he wasn't
Speaker 1: back there two others was Oh, so you're saying, he
Speaker 1: finn tell on who They already told the nigga probably
Speaker 1: already told oh whoever. You know what I'm saying, This
Speaker 1: shit old, This is old, like this they just called.
Speaker 1: They just called Bro, and we're trying to you know,
Speaker 1: you say that, so you say, got there they already
Speaker 1: They didn't get him mixed up like you belong with
Speaker 1: the separate ease exactly, like soon as you come into Bro,
Speaker 1: we already know what you do. He went back there
Speaker 1: with me. So that's you're saying, like that's can't about
Speaker 1: to tell you that. They can't. You can't tell me.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck who it is. You can't
Speaker 1: tell me that that nigga not doing what motherfuckers think
Speaker 1: he doing. I know what he did. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, I know he told them that. The
Speaker 1: fact I know he's talking about. Man, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: keep ship of coating that ship about that nigga. Man, Man,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. How accurate is the BMV ship? Though? Like
Speaker 1: the series, it's it's it's pretty pretty accurate. You know,
Speaker 1: I can't really speak on a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of that. They weren't only detroited Ship, Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: wasn't around the Detroit part. You gotta see when they
Speaker 1: get to the city. Yeah, you know when they come
Speaker 1: when whenever I meet up with Broke, which was probably
Speaker 1: about I think ninety seven, I seen him ninety s
Speaker 1: about store, fucking with him, like hanging with him ship.
Speaker 1: I think probably about ninety seven somewhere around there. You know,
Speaker 1: what was like the qualifications like for a nigga because
Speaker 1: seeing like y'all just taking in that at it, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep it. I'm gonna keep it. I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: it real. It's like back in our day, we were
Speaker 1: like we really felt like he need got to be
Speaker 1: the police. The way they nigga doing what the fuck
Speaker 1: they doing every day. I'm just being real, like, coming
Speaker 1: from the city, we've never seen that before. This shits
Speaker 1: like it took them. Niggas caught their case and niggas
Speaker 1: started being like, damn, you need to had had too
Speaker 1: much of you get what I'm saying, Like in our mind,
Speaker 1: like trying trap that's in trapped bit like who got
Speaker 1: it go bout to break? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: did it do that? If you was on the outside
Speaker 1: looking at how what you felt about that? Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know it depending on how your mind said. You
Speaker 1: just came to the Lanta though the blue y'all niggas
Speaker 1: showing this money, throwing this money, throwing Nigga's bank roll
Speaker 1: every night. Right, But but you know we probably did
Speaker 1: that for a reason to lure motherfucker's in. But I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but who who watching in Nigga's mind, Like in Nigga's mind,
Speaker 1: who are already streaming games the street? Nigga is gonna
Speaker 1: be checking you all, trying to street up to my twelve. Well,
Speaker 1: you know when we first came through that twelve, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know because I couldn't tell you. Damn, I
Speaker 1: sink it later on, I sink it, But I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't when we first threw up popping,
Speaker 1: I like that, even when I when I started sucking
Speaker 1: with Bro Bros already out out there doing that shit. Fact,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, they probably was watching, but
Speaker 1: they definitely gonna watch the niggas coming there every night
Speaker 1: and throw the money like that everybody. You go, Like
Speaker 1: one thing about when you heard DM meth is like
Speaker 1: soon as we heard it, street niggas heard it, strippers
Speaker 1: heard it, the rats heard it, the police heard it.
Speaker 1: Everybody heard that ship at the same time. Because it
Speaker 1: was explosion. You know what I'm saying, Like, what what
Speaker 1: you feel like when you sat when you sat in
Speaker 1: the sale, you just like, what was like? Damn that
Speaker 1: fucked up at you know that shit always run through
Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah, even before the seals and ship, it
Speaker 1: runs to your mind when you just you know, chilling
Speaker 1: in the house. Yeah, I know what you're gonna say too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, it's like, hey, this ship. One of our
Speaker 1: biggest fall down falls was the billboards. Shit, you feel
Speaker 1: like that was just like putting their faith. Bro, Look
Speaker 1: we you know, motherfucker, we're rocking right, We're doing what
Speaker 1: we do. You gotta you supposed to keep a low
Speaker 1: profile as possible, But at the same time, we was
Speaker 1: trying to get our recollect out there, so you gotta,
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta pop out. You gotta show everybody
Speaker 1: that these niggas really doing music. And we was we had, dude,
Speaker 1: you know we was doing me it was and you
Speaker 1: know which one was second? The music that ship was
Speaker 1: just a part of ballding. Well we were The music
Speaker 1: was just a part of balls real shit. Bro. Bro
Speaker 1: was really trying to transition over to a music executive. Yes,
Speaker 1: okay label, like for real, you know we had we
Speaker 1: was even after the billboard ship. I like, man, fuck
Speaker 1: this music shit. You know what I'm saying. I'm telling him, Bro, Like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this shit. This ship getting
Speaker 1: a hot nigga. Jay Boy felt like the billboards was
Speaker 1: like the Frank Lucas fir hat at the fight type shit.
Speaker 1: He felt like that, like you see coming from the airport,
Speaker 1: that big ass Yeah, one of the first niggas with
Speaker 1: digital billboards, like the ship that like turns around and
Speaker 1: like goes to different ship without having to change the
Speaker 1: vinyl and all that shit. Like yeah, like they had
Speaker 1: the whole old Social Death billboard. Yes, I think it
Speaker 1: is time the most special billboard. Oh god, the digital
Speaker 1: one was a little bit higher, but we had to
Speaker 1: pay more money for the Social Death billboard because Jad
Speaker 1: didn't want to give it up. M you say, you
Speaker 1: say that, what else though, like if you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because at the end of the day, when
Speaker 1: Nig got time to sit and think, you see all
Speaker 1: this ship. So that was that was that was one.
Speaker 1: That was a big one for me, you know, because
Speaker 1: I you know, I like keeping a lot. I liked
Speaker 1: keeping a low profile. But Bro got me bud, you know,
Speaker 1: cause j I was at a low profile name. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like when I always with j
Speaker 1: Bow listen, junior boss jo Jo Jo, I'm getting on.
Speaker 1: Before I became Jabo, I was wrapped. That was just
Speaker 1: you know, running and hanging with them, you know, hustling
Speaker 1: a little bit through them. Um jotunate Jabo? Did Jabo
Speaker 1: bring out an altar ego and you just be rid
Speaker 1: like Bro Jbo, this ship. You didn't want to have
Speaker 1: this ship go. But if if you ask anybody any
Speaker 1: any any orders or any celebrity that no need. I've
Speaker 1: always been the same. I never I never because we
Speaker 1: had that power. I never abused it because I've been
Speaker 1: I've been you know, broke rich broke. No, No, I
Speaker 1: get what you saying. Ain't saying that part like I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it would bring that in the Jable out of me.
Speaker 1: It was the same, dude. It wasn't because I'm running
Speaker 1: with Brony on that I'm super Jable. No, I get no, No,
Speaker 1: I definitely get that he's saying is when when you
Speaker 1: were forced into no no, no no. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: is your niggas won drug do y'all. Nigga was stars
Speaker 1: like that shit different from being a nigga that was
Speaker 1: a dope boy and a nigga that's a star. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Shit, y'allgare doing. Put y'all on
Speaker 1: the level. It's stars like these niggas. It stars. This ship,
Speaker 1: y'all gotta sucking. Um what is it? This ship is
Speaker 1: one of the biggest UMM documentary that got like nine
Speaker 1: thousand got them documentaries And you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So nigga was stars. So what do that do like?
Speaker 1: Because coming from street fame to fame fame is different, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's definitely different. You know what. The feeling the feeling
Speaker 1: I got from that ship was was was beautiful. Like
Speaker 1: the ego I'm saying this, My ego was wasn't. I
Speaker 1: wasn't like that. Tell you humble, but I'm I was
Speaker 1: definitely a humble nigga exact. No, I know that we
Speaker 1: all everybody know that like real shit though, No, there
Speaker 1: ain't no cap on it like the nigga Like I said,
Speaker 1: if I can get the jail, I can get some money.
Speaker 1: That's how niggas felt. I'm just saying, like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think look at them hats, how them hat were broke
Speaker 1: when you got Damn? Y y'all had them hat lean
Speaker 1: like DJ Trump with him got Damn. When I can't
Speaker 1: tell me wasn't feeling like bro it's him. He's saying
Speaker 1: that on top of the world over what you're saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, like when I'm around my family, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm yeah exactly, but when we go
Speaker 1: out in public, I'm humbled down because I know what.
Speaker 1: I know what he feels like. Not to have that
Speaker 1: power for sure too, you know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 1: I wouldn't try to. I never try to abuse that power.
Speaker 1: But if you fuck with me and I fuck with
Speaker 1: you and we don't, you know, we rock together this
Speaker 1: shit type shit, you know, But I never abused my
Speaker 1: that that that feeling that you got transitioning from trapped
Speaker 1: nigga to the trapper type. But I always, like I say,
Speaker 1: I always just been the same nigga. Man. But every
Speaker 1: now and then I let that little that little dog
Speaker 1: come out, you know, and I give talk shit with
Speaker 1: my audience, you know, you know the look the little
Speaker 1: the little nephew. They talk that shit like you got
Speaker 1: more you know, back then mold bitches in me or
Speaker 1: your swaging like my ey shit out, I'm swagged out.
Speaker 1: And you know I crushed you on on the other thing.
Speaker 1: You know, so I'm married now. It's like I watched
Speaker 1: with a second but yeah, I had them, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that That's why I used to used
Speaker 1: to joke with with the youngster and shiit. I was like,
Speaker 1: just talk shit, man, what's the weirdest shit you seeing
Speaker 1: the nigga try to do that like the gang y'all
Speaker 1: attention like, hey, look at me. I want to be
Speaker 1: a mom um the word is and the dumbish ship was,
Speaker 1: you know, the motherfucker try to walk through a crowd
Speaker 1: of a hunting niggas and girls and you know, try
Speaker 1: to talk to bro and dripping move niggas. Watch I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get me you know. That's when you know
Speaker 1: ship like that happened, and what would you feel the same? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. The thing was from getting from the outside
Speaker 1: of the crew to the to the That's where the
Speaker 1: problems come here because we got soldiers. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: let you just walk through here going on our niggas.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Hold on, but what you're doing,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a thousand hold on. Yeah. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: didn't be thinking I'd be tripping. Bro. You if you important, bro,
Speaker 1: you think you're dripping to walk up on Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: He's important. It gonna be like you said, gonna be
Speaker 1: a thousand hold on like before you So I supposed
Speaker 1: to be just standing somewhere. Nigga did right here right
Speaker 1: you on me. You could have stopped being my motherfucking
Speaker 1: nick that's the problem. Hold on, what the hold low
Speaker 1: is it? Stop you guys to stop hold up what
Speaker 1: you're doing? Why y'all let this nigga walked through her?
Speaker 1: What's over? Y'all go through that? A deal with hold on, bro,
Speaker 1: and he do this? Yeah. Other than that, everybody had fun.
Speaker 1: We'll not get big. When you met me and you
Speaker 1: got with him, and you guys got locked in and everything.
Speaker 1: When it came to your actual position in the organization,
Speaker 1: what exactly was your position and what was your role?
Speaker 1: Because to me, I felt like you were more like
Speaker 1: a human resurfaces human I'm sorry, like a human resources
Speaker 1: like hospitality, because like Jabo was the one that like
Speaker 1: dealt with the niggas, dealt with everybody that nobody felt
Speaker 1: like dealing with. He was the one, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: how you doing, you know whatever, whatever, blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: you're good, like he was the he was the fucking
Speaker 1: the layer next to the exactly the glue. Yeah, son,
Speaker 1: just make sure I'm wrong. I'm just trying to make sure,
Speaker 1: like a fact check, like make sure I'm right, like
Speaker 1: in my like feelings, because that's like that's what I saw,
Speaker 1: like for real, like music that held everybody together. So
Speaker 1: my thing with broken a ride one day, we an't
Speaker 1: got cool, you know what I'm saying. He had a
Speaker 1: little situation at an apartment off of Linish role and
Speaker 1: I think, like right doing is right there on the corner,
Speaker 1: like Linux roll. It's a Linux rolling the highway, and uh,
Speaker 1: I can't think by the by the but the hall
Speaker 1: depost you get over. So he like, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: you know I got a three bear own joint. I
Speaker 1: heard alfaretta. Man, I just moved down here, y'all can
Speaker 1: come staym type shit. You know. He's like, man, you
Speaker 1: you know, we got a lot of people being around us. Bro,
Speaker 1: Like like, Bro, I don't be here that much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just come on, you know, come on and stay and
Speaker 1: all that. And that's how he end up standing in
Speaker 1: my spot. But I used to like the command. So
Speaker 1: we ride one day, I'm just gonna come straight to
Speaker 1: the ship. We ride one day on the highway on
Speaker 1: the way to the crib, come from the club, and
Speaker 1: then him and I'm smoked. We're smoking. He had right
Speaker 1: beyond this too. He like playing the music loud as
Speaker 1: the motherfucker turn their motherfucker down, looking like what the doing?
Speaker 1: Like we'll talk to you right with you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like what's up? Like, look check this out.
Speaker 1: I say what I think you should you know, make
Speaker 1: me your partner. Do you like what you mean? Like, Bro,
Speaker 1: I want to be your right hand man. Like all
Speaker 1: you gotta do, Bro, let me do everything, like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do everything you make you know, the real, real,
Speaker 1: real big decisions. But everything else gonna come through me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I like, shit, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing some numbs out there. Ain't gonna like actorship.
Speaker 1: Like So, if he gets to me for fifteen or
Speaker 1: sixteen or eighteen, I say, bro, you get it to
Speaker 1: me the eighteen. You make your your few dollars, I say,
Speaker 1: but look, I could bring about like twenty six, twenty seven.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll bring about extra money, more than what
Speaker 1: you're making, and a little we can split that when
Speaker 1: we make what you're making and then make some make more.
Speaker 1: You know what sounds like they me. Let me do that.
Speaker 1: They men operate. You just chill, sit your back, go party, go,
Speaker 1: pop pills, go, you know, funk with the digits, go,
Speaker 1: you know, do whatever. Let me do the grind ship,
Speaker 1: Let me do it. And then he looked at me
Speaker 1: like I'm smoking. Look at me. He said, all right. Locked.
Speaker 1: So that night I became his partner. Now he gott it,
Speaker 1: introduced it to the shop, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: I don't know if we was in Miami, this was
Speaker 1: a alpharettic. We was in Atlanta when we had this
Speaker 1: discussion that night, but I don't know. We went to Miami.
Speaker 1: We just saw Word in the house talking, you know everybody,
Speaker 1: you know, Hi, everybody children smoking, and Ship. He's like, hey,
Speaker 1: um j Bo is my partner. Now, like he's not
Speaker 1: the exact words type shit, but he liked basically like
Speaker 1: he's my partner. Um, We're gonna run Ship through him
Speaker 1: with you know, everything is neat, but he's gonna take
Speaker 1: over on you know what I'm saying. So and everybody
Speaker 1: was cool with that, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: we her know, because they knew how the type of
Speaker 1: nigga I was, and they knew they knew how men
Speaker 1: bro met, you know what I'm saying. They knew at
Speaker 1: the time when had had what that man him had
Speaker 1: did before I met them, So he knew what type
Speaker 1: of nigga was and they didn't have no problem with it.
Speaker 1: And like I said, his our team was not just
Speaker 1: all Detroit, a St. Louis people, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: It was a it was a melting pop or different states,
Speaker 1: you know. So I didn't really get no backlash, you
Speaker 1: know from Ship like that. Of course, you know, I
Speaker 1: watching the books, so you know, shit, bro, dude, you're
Speaker 1: gonna spend ten fifteen thousands for everybody. I'm like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: hold up, you know we pay them this, that or whatever.
Speaker 1: Let them spend a little bit on the self. We're
Speaker 1: gonna stack you know what I'm saying. That's what they did,
Speaker 1: like you coming to man fucking many, I'm paying everything
Speaker 1: and type ship. We've been fifteen twenty thousand stores. You know,
Speaker 1: I kind of like stopped at a little bit though.
Speaker 1: That's the ship, the back lads type ship we was
Speaker 1: getting because I was nigging them to use their money too,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes pay for their own ship accountable when
Speaker 1: we've burned. We don't got apartments and cars. We got
Speaker 1: ten fifteen cards, you know what I'm saying, And paying,
Speaker 1: you know, paying their notes and ship. You know what,
Speaker 1: it's like everything one cashed out, but we pay paying
Speaker 1: their card notes and all that are we're doing all
Speaker 1: that shit. Okay, y'all can pay for y'all own no groceries,
Speaker 1: you know, a little ship. Well buy your own clothes, nigga,
Speaker 1: you gotta pay, you know what I'm saying. And but
Speaker 1: that's the thing they probably hated for me because I
Speaker 1: was watching Man Meets Man Meet you know money Basically,
Speaker 1: what's what's the obstacles or advantages you had, like just
Speaker 1: being just like being rocked locked up, like being Jay Bow.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Locked up? Yeah, when I
Speaker 1: first got locked up, brother, I may ship me to Detroit.
Speaker 1: When I first got locked up, the ship in Detroit,
Speaker 1: I end up going on the fucking prison in Detroit.
Speaker 1: But on the side they hold it on the the
Speaker 1: federal it makes that's going to court. I can't think
Speaker 1: of I can't think of that prison up. That motherfucker
Speaker 1: didn't know me. I ain't know I want in jail.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure this shit out. I'm in a
Speaker 1: place I ain't in my city. I don't know under
Speaker 1: the niggas. So I'm just really just figuring this shit out.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I had that fast, I said, I
Speaker 1: know niggas, you know, trying to go eat turning. I
Speaker 1: get up all that. But with ship, well, I had
Speaker 1: two tattoos, I think the BML tattoos back then. I
Speaker 1: always had them because I didn't want niggas to be
Speaker 1: Oh man, I know this, and Nick because I heard
Speaker 1: about this spot. I went through like motherfucker try to
Speaker 1: jump on your case type ship, like all right, all right,
Speaker 1: So I just had my task man. But finally when
Speaker 1: I finally left my tato on one day, oh man,
Speaker 1: it's like fifteen niggas coming up to him like man,
Speaker 1: I know Terry and Meat just that no and all that.
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, that's cool, but all right, no,
Speaker 1: just brush them off type shit. Um. But I got
Speaker 1: a lot of respect um in prison, especially when no
Speaker 1: niggas fuck with me. You know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I want, I ain't no bragging type niggas,
Speaker 1: none of that ship. So niggas respected how I was.
Speaker 1: I moved like a Boston prison, but I gave everybody
Speaker 1: that respect and they gave me mine. So I prison,
Speaker 1: I ain't it. You know, niggas don't like going to jail.
Speaker 1: But I was cool. I was ready to come home,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you got to weather
Speaker 1: the storm and like I say, laying your bid, So
Speaker 1: I laid in my bid. I just developed a routine,
Speaker 1: you know, on the joint. But like while I was
Speaker 1: locked up from the medium alway to the camp, I
Speaker 1: ain't getting nhming but respect from everybody eating the CEOs
Speaker 1: and NDE when in they came acout just in the
Speaker 1: world period, like the main thing that stick out, Like
Speaker 1: this ship different. How do you me personally? How do
Speaker 1: you little young niggas move? They want moving like that?
Speaker 1: You know back then, you know what I'm saying. How
Speaker 1: they got like even down here, how they got they
Speaker 1: got the fucking high ridges everywhere. You know all this shit.
Speaker 1: It's just different than me. But when I come home
Speaker 1: and like the young niggas, how the girls you know
Speaker 1: this ship I seen when I went to Walt Mort, Man,
Speaker 1: I seen just spandex everywhere. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm coming home on the Jorge Me. When you get home, bro,
Speaker 1: these women they dressed different from when you went in.
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, man, I go to then they sent
Speaker 1: me to some motherfucking halfway houses, like in three dollars
Speaker 1: away from Saint Louis. So I had to go to
Speaker 1: the wal Mort and you know, give me some clothes
Speaker 1: and T shirts and two pasting all this ship and
Speaker 1: I got home. Man, I tell you, Broy, motherfucker, I
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck you White Asian black everybody had
Speaker 1: on spani like damn, so that was you know the
Speaker 1: look of how the women changed, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: how she had changed, like the properties and ship changed.
Speaker 1: Um And I say, these young, these young, these young
Speaker 1: brothers already they man, there's every day in my city, Bros.
Speaker 1: Somebody getting killed every day and that motherfucker. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know it's everywhere, but you know we I hate saying
Speaker 1: this ship like Saint Louis at the top of bodies,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like in the errors, I'm
Speaker 1: being up there. I don't like being around like a
Speaker 1: lot of shit, so I really see it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you will run across it. If
Speaker 1: you ride in them rors, you're gonna it's every day.
Speaker 1: That shit different, bro, like with the with the young niggas.
Speaker 1: The old heads don't chill doot. But yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: basically it. Man. You know the young generation right now,
Speaker 1: these these these are the people that their fathers was
Speaker 1: locked up, all mothers and mothers was locked up. Now
Speaker 1: they've grown up. You know, we don't win there twelve fifteen,
Speaker 1: seventeen years they were babies when we left. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Some of the some of they they
Speaker 1: they grown ups. They pierced as you say. They they
Speaker 1: wasn't around nothing but the like the hood. These blutle niggas,
Speaker 1: they rocked with their hood so and they little guns.
Speaker 1: And that's basically what the change in my city. That's
Speaker 1: what I've seen, that's what I witnessed. Well, y'all when
Speaker 1: y'all uh, you know, doing the music question like why
Speaker 1: why wasn't I guess ever we know this like affiliated,
Speaker 1: or why wasn't Young Jeez like the official BMF artist?
Speaker 1: Is that because him and Kink already had the ship moving.
Speaker 1: How they had it? Well, Jeezy had you know, we
Speaker 1: used the pump Jeez everywhere we you know, go all
Speaker 1: the JJ we fas Jesus was like you was working
Speaker 1: with us. It was at a point that where we
Speaker 1: was we was gonna sound jeesy with us or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I think Bro told Jeezy because he has something
Speaker 1: locked on the door with Death. I think Death and
Speaker 1: Bro like, no, go ahead and you know, do your
Speaker 1: thing with them, and you know, just come back and
Speaker 1: break us on board after us, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So he wouldn't do this thing, and that's how he
Speaker 1: started bumping another ship probably probably let that shit is hot.
Speaker 1: Though you know what I'm saying, nigga, because that was
Speaker 1: a nigga saying like like nigga hot, a nigga doing
Speaker 1: too much, but he probably felt like that. I can't
Speaker 1: say I nigga feel but like you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying to being one humma, like this executive decision, everybody
Speaker 1: don't like it looked good, like that's it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wish I could do that, but some nigga feel
Speaker 1: like hell no, be a board. He just said he
Speaker 1: nigga dreaming, but it wasn't even even feel like real shit.
Speaker 1: I don't even feel like that came from him. I
Speaker 1: feel like that came from the people that were around him.
Speaker 1: That's everybody or everybody like with nothing up. No, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But like that ship is unheard of, Jake. No,
Speaker 1: I know every club and every every night, every car,
Speaker 1: every nigga bitch by nigga tell her like a motherfuck
Speaker 1: about that ship. He didn't. Eiga holes is turning to
Speaker 1: somebody else for being like, fuck that I rather risk
Speaker 1: this one night of my life did but the rest
Speaker 1: of my life with you. But fuck you. The Volk said,
Speaker 1: but you get your tee phone something. But you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you know where that from. You get your
Speaker 1: tephone something with the you know it's from that that
Speaker 1: comes from um treating people right. Facts. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I don't give a fuck. It was
Speaker 1: a home fact. All the way to the to the
Speaker 1: to the valet parking people. We treated everybody right. That's
Speaker 1: how we got to the point like you know, you
Speaker 1: and the club, you can't smoke, but shit, we're gonna
Speaker 1: till you five grand go ahead us not Houston with
Speaker 1: the Justice and Justice. And that was the routine, like
Speaker 1: we go to the wake up, go to the mall,
Speaker 1: Justice and dress up. Shit man that will pump shit
Speaker 1: dress up. We would know. We would go to the
Speaker 1: We would wake up, go to the mall, go to Justics,
Speaker 1: eat dinner, go to the club. Solomon will open Justice
Speaker 1: back up, took us breakfast, We go home and go
Speaker 1: to sleep, wake up, like three, go back to the mall,
Speaker 1: back to the club, back to Justice, back to the club,
Speaker 1: back to the mall, back to Justice. That was every
Speaker 1: day for like four or five years, like every It
Speaker 1: was the first motherfucker's to rock, just T shirts and justice.
Speaker 1: Ye dress got a dress call. We go through eighty
Speaker 1: niggas and women's come through that motherfucker straight to the
Speaker 1: back in the kitchen the bar. I'm gonna keep it reding, bron.
Speaker 1: That's what we was trapped, you know, doing we do
Speaker 1: back in them day. Niggas couldn't believe it like a
Speaker 1: nil come to the hood like Browns' side in the
Speaker 1: clubs from new niggas around being mile them niggas they
Speaker 1: doing like the ship. The nigga was saying, you'd be
Speaker 1: like you lying, you lying, niggas was going to the
Speaker 1: club deep to see what be niggas do. Is you
Speaker 1: lying and they ain't gonna let you down. Nigga doing
Speaker 1: this shit. So then you know niggas with pestimistic thoughts
Speaker 1: and petremist hood hood mind, but it's something up with
Speaker 1: that you ain't finished up that for. That's what that is.
Speaker 1: How if you've never seen something, when you don't understand something,
Speaker 1: you you be critical of it, right, Yeah, when you
Speaker 1: first see some shiitt and you don't understand, you be
Speaker 1: critical of it. Like man, hell no, I'm NEI gotta
Speaker 1: the twel but I'm nigga doing that shit anyone, No twelve,
Speaker 1: They just moved militant man like bro bro t and
Speaker 1: meet man like I say, man them, dude, Bro, just
Speaker 1: if you just sit down the high conversation with you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you're gonna block down these niggas
Speaker 1: on some other ship. You think that when the Brothers
Speaker 1: fell out though, they took that ship left. Now it's
Speaker 1: already it was already head and left when that happened,
Speaker 1: like you know, ship was just happening, you know, ship
Speaker 1: what a couple people getting locked up here in there.
Speaker 1: That type of shit happened, you know, but you were
Speaker 1: not ahead. I'm just saying it wasn't it eventually before
Speaker 1: you know, you know that ship with the fallout type ship.
Speaker 1: But I hated the fall out, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: hit the brakes. Hey, yeah, we weren't getting what we're
Speaker 1: supposed to get, you know, so I let bro know, like, look, bro,
Speaker 1: our people don't never call about ship, not you know,
Speaker 1: coming back right type shit. You know, um, because we
Speaker 1: we strictly you get it from here, they get us,
Speaker 1: they get it them, not we get it from them.
Speaker 1: We chop it up and then they get us and
Speaker 1: then we give it the Nah. I like getting my
Speaker 1: ship row. Bro's on the same page. That's why I
Speaker 1: like fucking bro. T was a good nigga. He did
Speaker 1: this thing too, but I like fucking with T too.
Speaker 1: But at that time, you know, it was it was Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we had to make a decision to stop running
Speaker 1: you know through broke through T and run start directly
Speaker 1: through the plug. Yeah. So that's that was one of
Speaker 1: the things that we did. And it was a sitting right.
Speaker 1: We broke with T when he when he basically figured
Speaker 1: it out because money wasn't coming to him at that time.
Speaker 1: You know, our money was gone. You know, we might
Speaker 1: shoot a little bit that way, but the boat was
Speaker 1: going somewhere else, all right, Yeah, I mean, yeah, we
Speaker 1: you know, we were gonna. Yeah. I can't love death.
Speaker 1: I can't. It just it just it feels funny for
Speaker 1: me to even say from back then to say right now,
Speaker 1: like fuck teeth. But yeah, yeah, yeah, we were I'm
Speaker 1: saying when I say fucking like we've been going over there,
Speaker 1: it's family. But yeah, come on, you got out and
Speaker 1: wet now. So we got we got, we got right,
Speaker 1: and you know that's when I was really being me
Speaker 1: and we were doing what we had to do, you know,
Speaker 1: So do you think that coming like were toning town
Speaker 1: around and motherfucker, how did shit feel over? How did
Speaker 1: you feel? As I'm saying that period, just to know
Speaker 1: like that you can do whatever the fuck you want, Like, no,
Speaker 1: I already undid this shit. Y'all really know, I'm really
Speaker 1: being mines about to shoot. I really got them say
Speaker 1: what it is and what it is, and so let
Speaker 1: me ask you this. You feel like you said, dude,
Speaker 1: you went through what you did right in the streets,
Speaker 1: like major organization. Y'all made millions out this shit trick
Speaker 1: called doing all this ship the niggas never heard of, right, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: then you went and sat down and perfected that right,
Speaker 1: perfected your rights. Wrong. So do you feel like if
Speaker 1: a niggles in the game, you could be like whole classes?
Speaker 1: I can't you know if I wanted to do that.
Speaker 1: Don't listen, And you need consulting niggas everything, niggas consulting
Speaker 1: everything the days. You know what I'm gonna do with
Speaker 1: the motherfucker ask me something, especially you know kids, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try to direct on another direction. No, I ain't
Speaker 1: saying that I get what you're saying. I'm saying right
Speaker 1: now me of going start me the banking mel but
Speaker 1: show me where y'all went wrong, get and show me
Speaker 1: what I needed to do. I'm gonna blige you here,
Speaker 1: mon show me how to work. They move. But even
Speaker 1: if you walk up to me, ask me some I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but you know me. Okay, now there you go. Now
Speaker 1: I know you all right because I'm saying I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna tell you ship now that I know you and
Speaker 1: I know you like if you're my guy, explain that
Speaker 1: to you. I'll tell you what you know. If you're saying, listen,
Speaker 1: people get paid for everything that they go to college,
Speaker 1: y'all needn been to college. You don't do everything that
Speaker 1: is to do in the game. Niggas have seen up
Speaker 1: to downs in the phone. Why Nick can't say that
Speaker 1: because they know sten it Okay what I'm saying. Some
Speaker 1: niggas that I'm pretty sure I know you can't deal with.
Speaker 1: Not say this on air or whatever, but just say
Speaker 1: for ensing me. I feel like I want to start
Speaker 1: a whole new BML Timmy the ends and I will
Speaker 1: I expect your time old you here you go, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you gotta make sure if you come with that
Speaker 1: type of shit, you gotta I would have to make
Speaker 1: sure that I couldn't get, you know, in trouble for
Speaker 1: doing it. But if I can get in trouble doing
Speaker 1: that shit, man, how do you think write books? But
Speaker 1: I think I'm not telling you what you write books?
Speaker 1: The first thing you don't see me over that page.
Speaker 1: This ship is based off story. Yeah, based off with
Speaker 1: your story, but it's some some of them. That's the
Speaker 1: same thing. How I'm not encourage you to do now,
Speaker 1: I'm just showing you how to do it. But look,
Speaker 1: we can show you how to do everything. Bro. I
Speaker 1: think part I think part of it is there's certain
Speaker 1: ship no matter what type of guidance can't be recreated.
Speaker 1: Yes it is musically, Yes it is, bro Everything, everybody,
Speaker 1: every every every Michael Jordan had coaches that showed him
Speaker 1: that flick. Yeah, coaches showing the fade away. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: if I gotta just like a lawyer, do you foak
Speaker 1: getting paid to god them deal with criminals? Why criminals
Speaker 1: can't what we're trying to understand, what I'm saying, you
Speaker 1: ain't going to jail. Hold on up, But how is
Speaker 1: that illegal? It is how you're telling someone how to
Speaker 1: do illegal shit? How is that illegal? If you're telling
Speaker 1: you're telling somebody how to continue a criminal enterprise. So
Speaker 1: whatever I know about what y'all nigga buying and shit,
Speaker 1: I'll just tell you the morally part of it. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you my story I'm doing on this past. So
Speaker 1: what you said, So what you're saying is why the
Speaker 1: fuck I can't get paid again? The little nigga listening
Speaker 1: to my story. Basically, I'm selling my story advisement from
Speaker 1: him on how you keep a crew together, that tit
Speaker 1: of that type. Yes, whatever it is that you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean if like I said, I would teach you
Speaker 1: the game. If I'm just just me talking because I
Speaker 1: don't be here any man, I'm gonna make sure that
Speaker 1: it's legal, yes to do If it's legal to do it,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, I'm just gonna say, but nigga's gotta get it. Bro.
Speaker 1: What we don't understand is everything starts from someone El nigga.
Speaker 1: That's a new jump drum na. What we get from
Speaker 1: in solid you wouldn't need the time. What you get
Speaker 1: for being side, Nigga started druenre h, Well we get
Speaker 1: for bed solid shit, don't know, come on the ship
Speaker 1: to number. We gotta get back on our ship. So
Speaker 1: they got to create something, Okay, How how if there's
Speaker 1: ways to am I tripping? No, you say't ways of
Speaker 1: monetize it? Yes, I think documentaries and books and that
Speaker 1: type of ship. But you're saying even further, how could
Speaker 1: you because listen, if I make a book about it,
Speaker 1: how I could have got away with it? Right? Whatever?
Speaker 1: And then I showed up doing seminars and Nigga saw
Speaker 1: the nigga put me to the side where my cousin
Speaker 1: got a situations. How would you help to that? You
Speaker 1: know what? I would happen this as as much as
Speaker 1: I might think my dog tripping a little bit. That
Speaker 1: Wolf of Wall Street nigga did that ship. The Wolf
Speaker 1: of Wall Street nigga did that? Did I still think
Speaker 1: anyone in the motherfucker said the Wolf of Wall Street
Speaker 1: or whoever did the ship? They made sure that we're
Speaker 1: just not thinking about it like that. I know you're
Speaker 1: not thinking, but how we look at shit, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: how we look at shit is like it may be
Speaker 1: a consequence. What if it ain't nigga check into it?
Speaker 1: What if it ain't, what kind of nigga can tell
Speaker 1: what y'all? Nigga's head created like the same shit? Just
Speaker 1: think about they're doing the same shit on Star sitting
Speaker 1: them doing the same shit. They're doing it with the
Speaker 1: with the what do you call it? They're recreating it right,
Speaker 1: But it's the same ship from the eyes of it.
Speaker 1: But I think, Okay, I guess what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: forget that is you're saying that him, particularly on one
Speaker 1: personal consultation, it ain't listen with these books and this
Speaker 1: ship that I'm standing on, how we did it the
Speaker 1: Rise in the Fall? Why he can't be the nigga
Speaker 1: to say that. Then people are gonna goddamn see certain
Speaker 1: ship images like what was the feeling you had before that? Well,
Speaker 1: I felt like this at the time, Like I've seen,
Speaker 1: like you said, I've seen in the crowd. What made
Speaker 1: how did you feel before that? Did you feel easy
Speaker 1: when you woke up? Niggas paying for anything? So so
Speaker 1: so it's almost like you got to you got to
Speaker 1: get the bmmfs on on the show right. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: is there gonna be like j Bow tells his do
Speaker 1: you have some your own ship coming like documentary movie? Um?
Speaker 1: From your perspectives, I can't. I'm gonna say a little bit.
Speaker 1: So it they supposed to supposed to be shooting in
Speaker 1: Saint Louis next Um, it's dope. That's what I heard.
Speaker 1: I'm not Joe. You probably got more information you don't do,
Speaker 1: but I haven't. Um, I talked to them every now
Speaker 1: and again time to time. I talked to them. I
Speaker 1: haven't talked to the writers yet. So to be truthful,
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for my next step on it. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't talked to um. They haven't told
Speaker 1: me the next step. So that's basically out. And you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying about that, that ship? Right? What
Speaker 1: would you be interested in just doing? Hopefully like that
Speaker 1: I work out, but maybe even just your own I'm
Speaker 1: working on other shit, you know besides besides that. UM, yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't just gonna sit right. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Sit there? You know, I fuck with them, You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I shout out to all of them,
Speaker 1: the whole stars for everything. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but I just I'm just waiting my turn for them.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm still moving, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, trying to get other things aligne you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying for me, you know, getting my
Speaker 1: story out, like I'm doing this podcast with you guys
Speaker 1: and shit like. You know, that's the type of ship
Speaker 1: I'm on. What's the what's the first day out, my
Speaker 1: first day out out of prison? What's it like after
Speaker 1: all of that history? Man, listen, I ain't gonna lie
Speaker 1: bro like that ship was. It was like when I
Speaker 1: got out, it was like I went in two days ago,
Speaker 1: now I'm out. But it wasn't really that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Eleven eight some shit like that. But
Speaker 1: when I first got out, I was like, damn, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Ride to the bus station and ship.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Dad, this ship is, I'm out, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Even when I made it to the camp,
Speaker 1: and you know, I was at for a city. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a medium low camp. It's a complex. They call
Speaker 1: them complexes when it's three different prisons. I don't understand.
Speaker 1: It's hard to get off the complex. When you get
Speaker 1: in there, like I want to switch to another prison.
Speaker 1: It's hard to leave when you get on the complex.
Speaker 1: But um, when I made it to the camp, man,
Speaker 1: it'd be like one or two guards and it might
Speaker 1: be a four hundred inmates. Um, you could just go
Speaker 1: put on a vest and just walk past the guard,
Speaker 1: tell me you're going on the job hunt and walk
Speaker 1: all the way around the whole motherfucker complex. That shit
Speaker 1: blew my mind, you know what I'm saying. Like, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's how ship, How ship was going. What was
Speaker 1: the plan? My plan when I when I came home, Man,
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna I'm gonna reach out to all
Speaker 1: these all these guys that we read you know that
Speaker 1: we kicked it with that slept in our house, you
Speaker 1: know all that shit, All these guys that you know
Speaker 1: we fucked with them? Are that artist? My plan was
Speaker 1: to come on and get back into me was you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And you know I called a
Speaker 1: few guys and ship when I came home. I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: this ship gonna be easy, you know, But it ain't everything.
Speaker 1: That's another thing that's switched. Everybody ain't the same. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like different, it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's different, man, But I'm not a bit of person.
Speaker 1: Nigga got to create a gendre. See Nigga's gonna try
Speaker 1: to keep you out of the junctre. It's already created.
Speaker 1: Ye needn't create a whole another lane on the nigga's
Speaker 1: brother niggas as leaders. It makes the whole most ship anything.
Speaker 1: I'm You're gonna come from right here, bro, because that
Speaker 1: what we do right. You're gonna put a whole play
Speaker 1: together with the other play, and they're gonna try to
Speaker 1: go find another Nigga play when the time him and
Speaker 1: make it a whole another play. Yeah, you can't tell
Speaker 1: me they ain't a lame for nigga who can't be
Speaker 1: in solid It can't tell me that. I don't even
Speaker 1: would nigga. You can't tell me that it ain't a
Speaker 1: play that the nigga makes some millions off of selling
Speaker 1: a solid story. I don't give a fuck what a
Speaker 1: nigga tell me. That's just how I feel about. Buy
Speaker 1: some ms. Yeah, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it did what it is. It ain't like check it, yeah,
Speaker 1: check it, check that record. Check it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying there, I don't know how just look at
Speaker 1: shit different because you wait on, bro, you wait on
Speaker 1: you don't need to lift Like if you start some
Speaker 1: ship may take a little bit, but you're gonna need
Speaker 1: a lift at some ship that you already at the
Speaker 1: bottom of it. And you know what I'm saying, it's
Speaker 1: gonna put a sense of God damn because you know
Speaker 1: what you would have did if it would That's where
Speaker 1: Nigga's getting toole ship twisted it. So it's how many
Speaker 1: words we were saying, is that you know, being solid
Speaker 1: maybe in your situation and others, is not celebrated like
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be noted more. Yes, niggas need to
Speaker 1: get some awards and ship Man, and you have a
Speaker 1: goddamn award for these niggas, grow to get us some
Speaker 1: plays for a nigga, bro, because that shit is rare. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they celebrate some of the bullshit, just the media whatever.
Speaker 1: They celebrate some of the bullshit, the solid shit, because
Speaker 1: the solid shit they feel like shouldn't be celebrated because
Speaker 1: in most cases, solid shit doesn't get views and it
Speaker 1: doesn't get attention, and it doesn't get likes. And all
Speaker 1: this other shit, like the bullshit is what captures people
Speaker 1: and it's what sells. Think about it is we know
Speaker 1: who we are the truth thing by itself anyway, you
Speaker 1: know what's been the motherfucker's saying something nearby disagreement. If
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm true true, if I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm telling the truth, I'm telling the truth about So
Speaker 1: that's just stand by itself, right, Yeah, that's one thing
Speaker 1: we get. Like, Nia's gotta know that within theself, like
Speaker 1: she standing by myself, like I put this ship by itself.
Speaker 1: He kicks some real ship. Like, then what it is?
Speaker 1: Understand I feel by myself? Man? Then what it is
Speaker 1: was that did you feel alone when you get out?
Speaker 1: Did you feel alone? Like? H Well, like I said,
Speaker 1: you know I'm not come home, man, probably about two
Speaker 1: or three good friends that make sure I was straight now,
Speaker 1: like you know, make sure I was. You know, can
Speaker 1: can can move for a couple of weeks. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They looked they took curtain, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But me expect them what I really
Speaker 1: was expecting when I came home. I never seen it.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, Like I say me, not
Speaker 1: even just meat. I'm talking about me. I took her
Speaker 1: a lot of motherfuckers, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: never asked nobody for nothing. When I come home, I
Speaker 1: just knew the bank account was gonna explode. Shit ain't real, brom,
Speaker 1: it ain't real. You know what I'm saying. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna say no names, none of that ship but motherfuckers,
Speaker 1: you know, and I know I ain't. I ain't the
Speaker 1: type of motherfucker serious and be like, damn they do
Speaker 1: ship for me. Dude. I'm just saying, like people like
Speaker 1: you an't. Like I said, people ain't do shit for me.
Speaker 1: So I ain't that purchase. You don't sit back and
Speaker 1: and wait for a handoff show. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna figure out the way. You know, I do
Speaker 1: my own podcast. I wouldn't got me studio. I make
Speaker 1: money off the studio. You know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: it's I'm not going to stop because the streets taught
Speaker 1: me how to move when it comes to make money,
Speaker 1: and not just with Trumps. You gotta use that same
Speaker 1: mentality the whole way. You know, for your life. We'll
Speaker 1: not get big fair but you gotta get what. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep it one hund What a nigga gotta do
Speaker 1: in that position. You gotta know that the same ship
Speaker 1: that you see in your set, the gene will never
Speaker 1: lay down. People are not here because they know you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna let down lay down. So nigga, go ahead,
Speaker 1: motherfucker know you ain't to lay down tight nigga, you
Speaker 1: don't need my help. Some people feel like you don't
Speaker 1: need my help because of who they already where. They
Speaker 1: don't put you at You get what I'm saying, We're
Speaker 1: gonna give them that is use. Yeah, like go ahead, bro,
Speaker 1: you got it. Some monfucker feel like you always got
Speaker 1: it too though. Yeah, everybody think that. I'm feel like
Speaker 1: you your status is more than my money, right straight?
Speaker 1: So they for them, mother ain't gonna never feel like
Speaker 1: it's you, okay, ain't motherfucker. I will never say that.
Speaker 1: You got to tell me you okay, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Can't spake us from other folks, that's I ain't.
Speaker 1: Can't they different? So the man, the man that I am,
Speaker 1: if I ain't got no money, I'm gonna tell you facts, right,
Speaker 1: ain't I ain't got it. I ain't got it, and
Speaker 1: I'm also the motherfucker man that's gonna I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: you one time, bro put me in the right position,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, Okay, So if it's
Speaker 1: a it's an artist, bro, let me book you booked
Speaker 1: the show for him. I ain't got ship booked the
Speaker 1: show for me. Let me get the proceeds off. That's
Speaker 1: how you can give me some money. I don't say
Speaker 1: that to a couple of guys. Never happened, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I just felt that I knew
Speaker 1: I was coming home to a bag. Ain't it. Ain't
Speaker 1: like that, Bro, I don't know because the same guys
Speaker 1: that I reached out too, we reached out to them
Speaker 1: the fun. You see what I'm saying, Like, it ain't
Speaker 1: about money. I mean friendship relationships. You know what I like.
Speaker 1: I know your families. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: know my as Like, nigga, you don't you know first
Speaker 1: thing you should think, like, Damn, I don't want to
Speaker 1: bro Comard get back in the streets. Yeah, if I
Speaker 1: can help this nigga not to go back to the streets.
Speaker 1: Hell man, I about the taps right off. That's all
Speaker 1: it is. You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: help this nigga because this nigga helped me a million
Speaker 1: motherfucking times, or let me at least compensate this nigga
Speaker 1: for me benefiting off of his story and what they
Speaker 1: all brought to the game. You feel like, what type
Speaker 1: of what type of uh you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: flaying that shit like under nigga. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, what type of energy? You know,
Speaker 1: certain ship you give me a certain energy to go harder,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, be feeling a certain way,
Speaker 1: But what type of energy you feel like this shit
Speaker 1: give you? Get me? Yeah? For for for them? Not
Speaker 1: yeah what you just said, Like I just told you,
Speaker 1: I don't sit down, So I'm gonna figure out a
Speaker 1: way to go hard, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: then when I get it, guess what I ain't like
Speaker 1: Dan nigger I've been trying to do. You know, you
Speaker 1: just say, I'm trying to like like the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you know, bro, Bro, when they first reached
Speaker 1: out to me and tell me about the podcast, I
Speaker 1: didn't know that was y'all. I wanted to go the
Speaker 1: first first class. I didn't I know that. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that was y'all. Enough, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They finally told him. I'm like, all right, but I
Speaker 1: was still on something. I'm home, I'm still on papers.
Speaker 1: I'm on papers now, I'm still on papers. I'm like,
Speaker 1: down if I do this podcast, I'm gonna get in
Speaker 1: trouble with type shit. That's why I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: do I'm like, I'm gonna waite. But the fair God
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying is I want I want this
Speaker 1: ship to be said what it said, like, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: So that's that's That's one reason I didn't do it.
Speaker 1: But because I didn't want No, I didn't want to
Speaker 1: go back to jail for some shit me doing a
Speaker 1: podcast in Atlanta when I supposed to be in Saint Louis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's that's one. I
Speaker 1: was sneaking down I can tell y'all, motherfucker now, I
Speaker 1: was sneaking down the pitch. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, that that's the one reason, bro, Like
Speaker 1: you know and I meant you, I don't really know.
Speaker 1: You're a good dude in my assum Her, I ain't
Speaker 1: gotta say no. She ran with us. You know, Jay
Speaker 1: was juice. I hon't good juice. Rest in peace. Her
Speaker 1: and Jay was so motherfucking cool. That's how I met Ja.
Speaker 1: Ja was our sister. She did and won't. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: you doing. I'm gonna fucking We're gonna call him when
Speaker 1: we get finished. Ye looking for you? Oh yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: so yeah man, But yeah, that's how that ship was.
Speaker 1: When you look back on all that ship, when you
Speaker 1: changing this ship, just fucking I don't like this is
Speaker 1: what it is. So the way you asked the question,
Speaker 1: if if I look back on it and I was
Speaker 1: still interest and you know what I was doing in
Speaker 1: the past, I changed a lot of shit, like the circle.
Speaker 1: You know. So let me ask you this. The anybody
Speaker 1: that was with y'all that folded you felt like I
Speaker 1: knew that nigga who surprisingly kept kept solid too, say
Speaker 1: both of them. Surprisingly you're kept it solid, man, bro.
Speaker 1: I actually thought my whole or our whole crew was
Speaker 1: gonna keep it solid. I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: I knew when I went because like I said, we
Speaker 1: had rules, and you know what I'm saying, We had
Speaker 1: a little we had orders. You know, if you get
Speaker 1: called shut up, we're gonna get your lloyd. Don't worry
Speaker 1: about that ship we got you. You can take your
Speaker 1: money and run. We're gonna figure it out. I was
Speaker 1: running on that law. Don't say nothing. Yeah, I ain't
Speaker 1: got well, like I said, I said on another interview,
Speaker 1: but when I first met my lawyer, when he walked
Speaker 1: through that door. But from when he guys, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: on hold on, I said, look, I ain't got nothing
Speaker 1: to say to no prosecutors, no DA, no motherfucking agent,
Speaker 1: no nothing. I ain't got nothing to say to him.
Speaker 1: He said, okay, we got the other way to hide.
Speaker 1: My name is such as such. And I never talked
Speaker 1: none of them until they tricked me to come out
Speaker 1: there and two dollars ten about whoo. I ain't know
Speaker 1: if I don't know that out of did try to
Speaker 1: do something to stay, but I hired to go. They're
Speaker 1: gonna make you do what the fuck you're gonna do.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna you gotta go, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I went, But I ain't I ain't. I ain't
Speaker 1: want to talk to none of them motherfuckers. So basically
Speaker 1: everybody at any nigga who fold it was like a heartbreaker, Like, damn, Bro,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. Bro, I ain't gonna lie. Oldolf
Speaker 1: fucked me him because I thought he was just you
Speaker 1: know Old I was. You know, it was good. It
Speaker 1: was a good nigga, funny, cool dude. All that. He
Speaker 1: fucked me up. Man. When I read that that article, Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm saying that he used to get ship from me.
Speaker 1: It comes from Bro, but he got it through me
Speaker 1: or we meet you at the gate. You know, I
Speaker 1: read that ship. It was true getting it from me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But he told the truth.
Speaker 1: Now he he told, told, told, and never made it
Speaker 1: to the fis. He gotta slap on the wrist, you know.
Speaker 1: So that did that nite. The whole ship that was
Speaker 1: that was one of them. There was one that was
Speaker 1: one of them. Um that I said, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't know about Old Tell. Somebody sent me that
Speaker 1: article where I was in when I was in Detroit
Speaker 1: and talk m hm. If I see him right now,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's up, bro? And keep it pushing. I'm
Speaker 1: not just sit down and talk. You know, no conversation.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna guess my time old I did my time.
Speaker 1: Just stay away from me, you know what I say.
Speaker 1: I ain't. You know, we ain't gonna be deef and
Speaker 1: none of that ship you did you? I did me.
Speaker 1: You feel like that's the first time your name was
Speaker 1: ever mentioned, like two, yeah it was. I knew that
Speaker 1: was the first time my name was ever mentioned that
Speaker 1: I know of. Ye when I when I when I
Speaker 1: did get out on bond and I got my discovery.
Speaker 1: You know, you can read something like you know you
Speaker 1: did something somebody and the discovery to say, like I
Speaker 1: just get such a such from j BO. He would
Speaker 1: charge me, uh eighteen five if I paid cash, you
Speaker 1: will charging me twenty on the front. I don't did
Speaker 1: that with a couple of people, So I knew who
Speaker 1: it would. I read my descript because that shint you
Speaker 1: will see the letter I just get such it would
Speaker 1: be blacked out. That's a Ciot confident your appointment. So
Speaker 1: he's telling him I read that. I said, oh shit,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on my table at the crew. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I fucked that. I carry I saw. I mean,
Speaker 1: I ain't did you Did you run into any nigga
Speaker 1: that like just into now like you know how nigga? No,
Speaker 1: he told, but into now like I ain't tell I
Speaker 1: ain't running into him. But shit, y'all, y'all see him
Speaker 1: all the time. I see him on social media all
Speaker 1: the time. Who blue he don't really really don't think
Speaker 1: you too? He told what he did, then you can't listen, bro,
Speaker 1: listen to me, sah on to you. You can't tell
Speaker 1: what you did. I'm saying, you can't tell. You can't
Speaker 1: tell what you did. Man, when you tell, brother, they
Speaker 1: want you to tell on everything. Or guess what if
Speaker 1: you don't tell everything, they're gonna put your eyes out there.
Speaker 1: That's what they did though, because I want the in
Speaker 1: the in the in the fucking in in the little
Speaker 1: auticle thing. He said, like you know who we got
Speaker 1: it from. And he kept on talking like hold long, man,
Speaker 1: y'all gonna y'all don't let me go. Yeah some shit
Speaker 1: like that, I don't give me, give me time out
Speaker 1: or something like that, because many people know my family
Speaker 1: type shit. Stop and they like, Noah, they stopped. So
Speaker 1: they put that out there, you know, what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He started, but he stopped. He probably stopped right there
Speaker 1: on that motherfucker art. Yeah but you said too much, bro,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah said too much. Yea, what's you think
Speaker 1: the end result is if when the family got picked up,
Speaker 1: everybody just shut their mouth. Ain't he ain't saying the
Speaker 1: white people by sitt you think the result would be? Yea,
Speaker 1: if nobody never said nothing, No, they ain't got nothing.
Speaker 1: If I get caught me conspiracy when you talk about
Speaker 1: other people, If I get caught fifteen bricks, whatever, Okay,
Speaker 1: we've been fighting ship whatever I get on run like
Speaker 1: you said, whatever, if I fight mine by myself and
Speaker 1: not implementing nobody else's not known conspiras or rica. When
Speaker 1: I started telling like, yeah he know and he ain't
Speaker 1: and he's when there's been a lot of niggas, niggas
Speaker 1: take their lick, it ain't nothing, m niggay won't neither
Speaker 1: got them. I don't need to be down here with me.
Speaker 1: You need to be down here with be man. Let's
Speaker 1: see it fucked up. Yeah, so do you think that hit?
Speaker 1: Do you think all that shit is just a little
Speaker 1: too accepted and just speaking, We ain't even just speaking
Speaker 1: of like just the music industry, but just for the
Speaker 1: streets and just as general, like just telling, snitching, whatever
Speaker 1: the case is, the formanst Do you think that it's
Speaker 1: becoming slowly more accepted? Slowly? Can you running a hundred
Speaker 1: million miles a minute? Oh man, it's like they do
Speaker 1: that first fun compared to back in the day. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, niggas to be They're gonna be
Speaker 1: discreet about it, you know, trying to tell on the
Speaker 1: nigga man with right now like today, slowly man, you
Speaker 1: they grab niggah, I got you. It was a little
Speaker 1: John in them before they even say something like they're
Speaker 1: telling all them already because these niggas you think that
Speaker 1: will get like that though. It's just it's just like
Speaker 1: I said, niggas with no fucking um you know how
Speaker 1: motherfuckers you know, put you on point type shit. Niggas
Speaker 1: that that's not on point. They ain't got no big
Speaker 1: homies and all that shit. And they just want the fan.
Speaker 1: They want the money and want to be that guy
Speaker 1: throwing money and clothes, you know, buying cars and jewelry
Speaker 1: and fucking all the ditches and all that shit. But
Speaker 1: they forgot one motherfucking thing. When you pick that bag up,
Speaker 1: it's a ninety percent chance that ship you can get
Speaker 1: caught up. Now what you're gonna do now, No, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't want to leave. Uh bella. Oh man, who's
Speaker 1: gonna raise my kids? Uh Man, they're gonna take I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna have no more it. They can't take it.
Speaker 1: Niggas can't take that ship. So they're trying to get
Speaker 1: back to the same you know, females or you know
Speaker 1: that's when as soon as you leave, they fucking listening
Speaker 1: or they're still in your money. Niggas don't look at
Speaker 1: all that shit like you gotta. You gotta look at
Speaker 1: all that ship when you in the gang, bro, you
Speaker 1: gotta watch the bitches you deal with. You gotta watch
Speaker 1: the niggas you deal with. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you're constantly looking left right. We're gonna say that part.
Speaker 1: I'm matt let me manage, I got, I got, I gotta,
Speaker 1: I gotta absolutely like two goddamn me. I think three managers,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, and I ain't a lie bro
Speaker 1: like niggas don't think about that that point or the gang.
Speaker 1: They can make all the money in the world. But
Speaker 1: as soon as you get caught up. You know how
Speaker 1: many times I ride with my orders and ship right now,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like they look a little
Speaker 1: person ship. Like when we get on the highway, um
Speaker 1: draft down here, we're smoking weed and you gotta piss.
Speaker 1: Oh you ain't trying to go piss until this weed
Speaker 1: cleared out of this car. We you know, we rode
Speaker 1: two three fold more miles down the road, Like I
Speaker 1: got rules. I'd be teaching them that because this is
Speaker 1: a good ship. I see that fucked him up. So
Speaker 1: now you're smoking weed. You got eighty thousand in the
Speaker 1: car with you. You know you bought it, but you
Speaker 1: stopped getting some gas because not gas, you gotta piss.
Speaker 1: And there's some state troopers in there and they smelling
Speaker 1: the weed. You know what I'm saying. I tell them
Speaker 1: this ship for a reason, Like I'll be teaching my
Speaker 1: orders not to be street nigga, but like I teach
Speaker 1: them my street mentality when we ran on the highway,
Speaker 1: because everything matters, right, That's what I'm saying. Like, if
Speaker 1: you want to slip up now, my eighty thousand gonna
Speaker 1: were in jail and I guess you got the case me.
Speaker 1: They don't look him a lot of man. Yeah, man, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta still in a bike. This isn't on a
Speaker 1: major you know, you know, a big case. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I tell them that for a reason, Bro,
Speaker 1: I teach them my wage for a reason, and they'll
Speaker 1: tell you know what I'm saying. I don't listen, nigga,
Speaker 1: slow your ass down. It's it's just sixty you do
Speaker 1: sixty four sixty five. I don't give a fuck fuck
Speaker 1: ryding with the goddamn me traffic were dirty? What you
Speaker 1: what you think? Mate? And level spot to be like shit?
Speaker 1: Did we'venna part this shit off it right here? It's
Speaker 1: because we was doning party and you know we gotta
Speaker 1: you know, we party, so we gotta make money, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So now, but niggas are getting
Speaker 1: money in their own different cities. Nigga getting money. But man,
Speaker 1: you know, okay, you getting money in Saint Louis. You
Speaker 1: know you you brought you thirty thousand nine. It's gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you want to call home like tell and tell
Speaker 1: a little round and then send me five and all that?
Speaker 1: All right, all right, it's gonna take a two to
Speaker 1: three days. I ain't got two three days the funk that.
Speaker 1: So you know we had to you know, extend our
Speaker 1: hands to the to the one that we chose it.
Speaker 1: Do you think that was a mistake though, to play
Speaker 1: right here when y'all already just getting money in y'all
Speaker 1: other cities like y'all, because like I saving everybody different
Speaker 1: city down here getting money just you know what I'm saying. Whatever,
Speaker 1: and got people at home having the business. See this
Speaker 1: ship could be sold. You got people at home having
Speaker 1: the business, and you just down here music is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But you you know there was a lot of money
Speaker 1: down for one. Yeah, you know, it's harder to say not.
Speaker 1: You know, you find your some soide of guys see
Speaker 1: your can like you're seeing your can, and they right here.
Speaker 1: I can get them right here either you put them
Speaker 1: at your front when their conversation come up. If if
Speaker 1: we chose the right one, you know, yeah, go do it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Why why why miss millions?
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you know if you're in that shield, Yeah,
Speaker 1: why miss millions when you can get it? And if
Speaker 1: you move in the way that we were taught you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all see us flash and all that. But other than that,
Speaker 1: where y'all see us there, yeah, nowhere, you might pop
Speaker 1: up at the restaurant. Most of the time we're in
Speaker 1: the house. Yeah, we sit in the house all day,
Speaker 1: playing the music, playing the game, smoking with bitch is
Speaker 1: coming through all that until it's time to go out
Speaker 1: to night, you know what I'm saying. All everything else
Speaker 1: is in mixed in with that, the hustle. They ain't
Speaker 1: waiting to come home many time you got little man,
Speaker 1: I don't even know, bro. I think, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he did it time, but know ain't though you don't
Speaker 1: do this time. He got this state? Is it? State?
Speaker 1: Time is tied in with the fig which is good.
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, like, as soon as they release them
Speaker 1: from the state. We've been waiting for that for hell,
Speaker 1: they're gonna let them go as soon as you get
Speaker 1: to the FID, you know what I'm saying. So, but
Speaker 1: it's the good thing, Yeah, because good thing. At first
Speaker 1: it was it was a little a little rocky because
Speaker 1: they were trying to run him consecutive, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And he ended up they end up getting
Speaker 1: it together running concurrence. Whenever they let him go from there,
Speaker 1: he had a twenty How long have you been going
Speaker 1: bron O sixteen? Yeah, so he he got at least
Speaker 1: one more year because you do our seventeen twenty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's that's eighty five percent. And he he doing
Speaker 1: eighty five percent because he's doing like he in the state,
Speaker 1: but he's doing like a valid crime. So he's doing
Speaker 1: eighty five percent, I think. And so he got basically
Speaker 1: another year up right up under a year to come home. Okay,
Speaker 1: wait for the name. Look before like we wrapped this
Speaker 1: up and get finished, I need you to give us
Speaker 1: give him the world a brief rundown of three stories.
Speaker 1: Ready to hear what the stories are? Yeah, okay, the
Speaker 1: can cone tray meets his birthday and when we went
Speaker 1: to sm festival. So it can't cull a trip, yes man,
Speaker 1: because it just goes back to what Black is saying about,
Speaker 1: like if you weren't there to live it or see it,
Speaker 1: like you're not gonna believe like the type of ship
Speaker 1: that took place in the type of ship that went
Speaker 1: on like during those festivities. So first of all, it
Speaker 1: went from like you know, about thirty of us going.
Speaker 1: It went from thirty two one hundred thirty two hundred. Man, No,
Speaker 1: that shit was like two fifty. Yeah, the whole plane, man,
Speaker 1: I ain't the whole plane was lit with all of us,
Speaker 1: everybody that was going. It might be one or two
Speaker 1: or four, you know on the plane that wasn't well.
Speaker 1: I bet you they lived at plane run like a club. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it was every motherfucker you think good? I
Speaker 1: think I think I was sitting by a little John
Speaker 1: he was on the plane. I can't thinking of other celebrities,
Speaker 1: but that motherfucker was cracking. Were smoking on the plane
Speaker 1: like all kinds of ship brow. That ship was. Look,
Speaker 1: so we got soon you know, we're in another country.
Speaker 1: So as soon as we all got you know, on
Speaker 1: the strip, everybody went bought pocket nine. You can't you
Speaker 1: can't get no guds and ship down. Now we couldn't
Speaker 1: read no guds. So all of us we were bought
Speaker 1: the whole motherfucker in the pocket knife store out there
Speaker 1: on the strip. Though it was on the stripped all
Speaker 1: the pocket nine and ship man man after that, bro man,
Speaker 1: like I think Zimbo came a couple of days out
Speaker 1: to us. Yeah, he came a lot of niggas. It
Speaker 1: was a lot of niggas that was trying to leave
Speaker 1: on the same day everybody was leaving, but that ship
Speaker 1: was fucked up where someone's going on with their paperwork
Speaker 1: and they couldn't leave. So he came a couple of days.
Speaker 1: So we're down there, everybody just chilling, you know about
Speaker 1: the pools and ship like the hotels. You know, we've
Speaker 1: all scattered out. Man, they've got there. He went got
Speaker 1: a pounds. I don't know what hotel was, the pound,
Speaker 1: but two level pounds with a big ass Olympic pool
Speaker 1: on in that motherfucker. I think everybody stayed up there.
Speaker 1: So we just party in that motherfucker. Man rooms for everybody,
Speaker 1: the whole hotel for everybody, but everybody stayed up there
Speaker 1: with him like and didn't even like Mighty used the
Speaker 1: rooms like ship and shower or some ship like, and
Speaker 1: that was it, like I think it's it's his spot
Speaker 1: was where everybody met up there before we went went
Speaker 1: to what was that club called with the case looked
Speaker 1: like a cave. That ship was, I don't remember that
Speaker 1: ship ain't going through that. It was a haze, like
Speaker 1: a drunk haze like you ever been drunk for a
Speaker 1: week's crazy? Man? Okay, so let's let's move mom from
Speaker 1: Camcom to Meta's birthday. So Meta's birthday, we had the lions,
Speaker 1: tigers and bears. Yeah to shout out to Hannah, go down, Hannah.
Speaker 1: She cold with the parties, man, I need the party done,
Speaker 1: calling her ass. She started doing our parties and you know,
Speaker 1: some other people's parties. But she did my birthday, did
Speaker 1: meets birthday. She did a lot of shit. Um, she
Speaker 1: laid that motherfucker out. Man, I'm sure you walking the bitch.
Speaker 1: The one was a draft, was a drafting that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a draft of zebra lions. I don't think
Speaker 1: it was a bear, but but I kind of been
Speaker 1: doing the crazy invitations to though. Yeah the fuck you
Speaker 1: get that can't go to the party? Yeah yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I mean then when you walk in, all the champagne
Speaker 1: in the world until the ship was gone, it was
Speaker 1: it was trash cass, trash cans for the champagne. Like
Speaker 1: everybody get you a bottle or drink, you know, once
Speaker 1: you know chopain going. It was gone. But the man,
Speaker 1: I don't know how I mean bottles we bought but
Speaker 1: he had I want to say, he had what about
Speaker 1: two hundred two hundred bottles all in the back every
Speaker 1: section had. I mean, I wasn't trying to count the motherfuckers,
Speaker 1: so I ain't. I weren't really sure, but we had
Speaker 1: bottles for not everybody, but it was everybody got a drink.
Speaker 1: I put it like that. Yeah, So that was that
Speaker 1: was one of the highlights of his party. The animals
Speaker 1: and you know, and in the trash cans for the
Speaker 1: bottles and you know, unlimited bottles until that ship ran out,
Speaker 1: you know, what's the essence. But we went down to
Speaker 1: New Orleans, but as respectable and that just like the
Speaker 1: piggyback off of what he was saying about, you know,
Speaker 1: like everybody being treated equally and everybody being treated with respect.
Speaker 1: Like so we're down on we're down on in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We had shipped all the cars, shipped,
Speaker 1: all the stuff we had in the hotels and ship,
Speaker 1: but it was like you know, it was that ship
Speaker 1: was so packed down there wasn't even really nowhere to drive,
Speaker 1: so like we walk. We ended up walking everywhere. But
Speaker 1: it's like two hundred niggas walking up and down Bourbon Street,
Speaker 1: up and down Canal, like walking everywhere that we had
Speaker 1: to go, and we had we had a party. It
Speaker 1: might have been at the Hilton or somewhere, but it
Speaker 1: was like you had to have like access to get in.
Speaker 1: That's when they started all that shit whatever whatever. But
Speaker 1: it was like they had like the housekeepers and they
Speaker 1: had the niggas that were like sweeping the floors and
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, cleaning the dance floors and
Speaker 1: all that shit. Like you know, other other people were
Speaker 1: there at the party trying to make it seem like,
Speaker 1: you know, like okay, these workers and trying to like
Speaker 1: you know, treat them like whatever, blah blah blah, YadA,
Speaker 1: YadA YadA. But Meeta's whole thing was is like, you know,
Speaker 1: like these people wouldn't be here for the one for
Speaker 1: us us, So he made sure like every single fucking
Speaker 1: floor sweeper, every single made, every single anybody that had
Speaker 1: anything to do to come in contact with us, to
Speaker 1: like help us or serve us in any kind of way,
Speaker 1: he made sure that they were thoroughly taken care of.
Speaker 1: Because like that's just the type of person he is.
Speaker 1: Like me and him, like I didn't even wan front.
Speaker 1: Me and him had a discussion one time when we
Speaker 1: were in Miami. We were eating breakfast. It was just
Speaker 1: me and him, and like I think it was Yogi
Speaker 1: up there like and that was it because everybody else
Speaker 1: was still asleep. We had a discussion about how it
Speaker 1: was a conspiracy that niggas were lactose intolerant like he was.
Speaker 1: He was that intelligent and that smart, and that was
Speaker 1: like the type of shit that he thought about. But like,
Speaker 1: if you didn't know him to have a real conversation
Speaker 1: with him, you would never have any idea. But like, man,
Speaker 1: Man Meets was an incredible nigga, like for real, for real,
Speaker 1: like oh God, like I don't know that shit was
Speaker 1: just those were Those are some of the best years
Speaker 1: of my life. I swear like I never be able
Speaker 1: to ever relive that ship like period. Like no, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: So uh ask you what my question geno. So if
Speaker 1: if you if your nigga like thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years old,
Speaker 1: you get to chocolate it up with him any company
Speaker 1: you and say, Man, honestly, man, I'm gonna be real
Speaker 1: with you. I want to I want to be a
Speaker 1: street nigga. I want to be in the streets. Um,
Speaker 1: what what would be your response? And or like what
Speaker 1: would be your advice to that younges. That's why I
Speaker 1: was telling the bro like my first thing, especially if
Speaker 1: you're you like that, I'm gonna I'm gonna just tell him,
Speaker 1: I'm just like broke, don't do it. M That's I'm
Speaker 1: my first thing. I'm gonna tell him I don't do it.
Speaker 1: It ain't worth it, don't do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So then now I'm trying to get a vibe from him,
Speaker 1: like his conversation because line, you said, you're fourteen, So
Speaker 1: now if you're fourteen, you ain't got no fire the
Speaker 1: figure you're looking up to me and here you come
Speaker 1: asking this question. So I'm gonna try to see what
Speaker 1: your conversation like. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to tell you, no, bro, this what's
Speaker 1: gonna come and happenings. I'm telling you you're ready to
Speaker 1: go to jail. Can you handle it? Can you stand
Speaker 1: up next to a nigga another nigga in the star pits,
Speaker 1: ain't nothing in between, you know what I'm saying. Can
Speaker 1: you sit on the toile and take a dump. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Can you take rules and motherfucker
Speaker 1: telling you what to do? And at your age, not
Speaker 1: your age, but your age, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like talking like in my way. So he answered all
Speaker 1: my questions and I got a good vibe from him,
Speaker 1: and I know that he's not backing down from going
Speaker 1: to the streets. So I would just try to give
Speaker 1: him his best advice, like bro, don't like you know,
Speaker 1: don't bring people to your house type shit, like don't
Speaker 1: show you know, like just something. But I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's other ways, you young, It's other
Speaker 1: ways to get money. I understand by the by the
Speaker 1: by the gas station pump brothers from when I was
Speaker 1: a little kid and ask can I pumped the gas
Speaker 1: for twenty five fifty cent and I stay a bit
Speaker 1: for hours and go home thirteen fourteen dollars? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. As a kid, so I started hustling young,
Speaker 1: but not you know, street, but I had to hustle
Speaker 1: in me. So this little nigga, if he reminded me
Speaker 1: of meat. I try to give him the best advice
Speaker 1: that I can give him without glorifying him to go hustle.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, because if you don't tell him,
Speaker 1: he's just gonna go to the next nigga, and his
Speaker 1: nigga might be like here, man, yeah, gonna take them,
Speaker 1: take these two three yat there and sell me some rocks.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That ain't me. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, So that's that's that's what. That's
Speaker 1: what I'll tell them. I don't tell niggas that in prison,
Speaker 1: the young niggas. I was, you, man, who do this?
Speaker 1: Do this shit again? You know what I'm saying? What
Speaker 1: of course you ad what? What? What advice you can
Speaker 1: give me? Man? Because he always got in mouthing out
Speaker 1: there and get it. I don't talk to the goat,
Speaker 1: you know all this shit, but the goat trying to
Speaker 1: trying to show him out about I. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's what I'll do first. And like
Speaker 1: I said, if I get a good feeling or a
Speaker 1: good reading or the little kid or you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I try to give him the best advice
Speaker 1: without trying to tell him to go do it. Actually,
Speaker 1: you know, a big shout out salute to j Bo
Speaker 1: being man pulling up the bag on the street. It's
Speaker 1: big fat bitch.