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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brovis, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and Bill Jones and a happy Tuesday as the draft

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Talking Cowboys. Bill Jones with the still bearded

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola. Good evening, good afternoon, whatever it is. I'm tired,

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Speaker 1: Good even was a late night last night. Oh you

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Speaker 1: watch the Stars game? Oh? I was there? Oh you

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Speaker 1: are well? You watched it? Did you were there? I'm

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Speaker 1: emotionally worn out. And that play? Is that a playoff

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Speaker 1: hockey beard? That is two losses away from getting shaved off? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think so. Actually I looked at it this morning

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Speaker 1: ago about your beard? Yeah pretty much. Did you watch

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Speaker 1: basketball last night? I couldn't. I mean one lead, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to bed. I quit watch. I flipped over. And

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Speaker 1: stated a thirty one point lead and somebody won a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. That video that's gone viral of the fan.

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Speaker 1: There's a fan uh, an older guy about Mickey's age,

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Speaker 1: who watched yourself? Older gentleman, who's just going nuts because

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Speaker 1: the Clippers won that game? Brian? How are you doing

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Speaker 1: doing well? Boys? Thank you for having me here today.

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Speaker 1: The first question I wanted to ask today is who

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Speaker 1: is the happiest man in America? Would it be I'll

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Speaker 1: give you, I'll give you a few choices. Would it

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Speaker 1: be DeMarcus Lawrence? Would k and Kid Garrison? How are

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Speaker 1: you good? Good to be here? DeMarcus Lawrence? Would he

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Speaker 1: be the happiest man in America? Or would it be

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson? Four years, one hundred forty million, the same

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Speaker 1: sixty five million guarantee. I'll tell you what. How about

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Speaker 1: Russ Wilson? Basically saying, if you don't have to sing

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Speaker 1: done by April fifteenth, we're gonna have some problems. That

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Speaker 1: little general manager got it done there, Seattle. Good for him.

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Speaker 1: Your buddy up there. That's a QB with some stroke there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've been to two Super Bowls one one. He's your franchise, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Or would it be Dak Prescott, Ah, that's interesting. Interesting?

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Speaker 1: Or would it be Tiger Woods. Vote for Tiger. Would

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Speaker 1: be very happy. And Brian can say he was at

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Speaker 1: the Master's first seven minutes. No, I was there for

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Speaker 1: the practice round. You can still sign with you where

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Speaker 1: I was there. I was on the grounds. You know

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Speaker 1: what's funny though, do you kind of feel like, though

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Speaker 1: Mickey All asked this question because you're a cap guy,

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Speaker 1: do you feel like the Cowboys, since they got the

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Speaker 1: Lawrence deal done for less than market value, that they

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Speaker 1: can get this Prescott deal done for less than market value.

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Speaker 1: I think they want to. I don't. I mean you

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Speaker 1: have to define what market value okay, because I don't

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Speaker 1: think Wilson sets market value for a guy that's been

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Speaker 1: in the league three years. Okay, So you're thinking, so

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Speaker 1: that much. Okay. Oh, this is gonna be interesting because

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Speaker 1: I'm not negotiating the contract. No, but but it's interesting

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Speaker 1: how the Cowboys, you know, they came in. They came

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Speaker 1: in under market value. Though, if you think about it

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Speaker 1: was market value? Well, if you think about that Donald,

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Speaker 1: about average. No, just guaranteed money. What's Russell Wilson's new average?

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Speaker 1: Thirty five? Okay, yeah, thirty five. There's no way you'll

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Speaker 1: want to know what Dak Prescott's currently ranked in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I haven't feeling I've heard this before, so I won't

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Speaker 1: spoil it. But I've heard this before. Go ahead. According

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Speaker 1: just saying he's due for a major rays. And if

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Speaker 1: you try and do for high guarantee early like two

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Speaker 1: three years, three years guarantee early, and thence to get

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm I'm worried about getting out of it,

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Speaker 1: but I think the guarantee early can reduce what the

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Speaker 1: total packages like I'm giving, I'm guarantee you this money right,

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Speaker 1: so now I don't have to pay you thirty million

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Speaker 1: if you don't fulfill the contract? Right? But what are

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Speaker 1: scheduled lords that way, right. He's young enough to go

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Speaker 1: long term. Just doesn't really matter ultimately, because we've talked

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Speaker 1: a three or four year deal, how much is he guaranteed?

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Speaker 1: Because that's what you're really on the hook for. So

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Speaker 1: get Prescott three years, ninety million dollars guaranteed, So thirty

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Speaker 1: let's be we're bearing the lead here, Mickey. What do

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Speaker 1: you got it's too much? Three years somewhere around twenty

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Speaker 1: we get around Garoppolo's contract? See, that's the thing I

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Speaker 1: make you get out of Garoppolo's contract. I just pointed

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that that's making sense. That's the give and take, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I've accomplished as much as any of

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Speaker 1: these guys. Matt Ryan makes thirty million a year. What's

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Speaker 1: the four NCAP? What's the franchise take? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Like off the top of my head, it's over twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. It's pretty high. I hate it. I don't

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Speaker 1: no money at the end. You know, maybe it's maybe

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Speaker 1: good for you now. But I I don't know, Mickey.

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Speaker 1: I think you you're negotiating out of fear that he's

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Speaker 1: not good enough by by structuring it that way, by

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Speaker 1: making it shorter, by making it shorter, Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: just don't you would do that with an older player. Right.

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Speaker 1: not that high for this year. Yeah, this year, next

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Speaker 1: five and a half a million, you know, Mickey, I'm

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm scared, but I but I don't

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Speaker 1: remember what the Cowboys tried to pull with Miles Austin. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So you can't. There's a clause in that twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: some flexibility. It's gonna be tough, but I mean in

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Speaker 1: Mickey's right for calling me out for maybe being scared.

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Speaker 1: He's right to do that because you know, deep down

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Speaker 1: He does what he has to do. You know, is

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Speaker 1: Tank got what about a million per year over what

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks we think he's better than. Right, Yeah, Drew

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Speaker 1: I said, the general manager's not going anywhere. Owner's not

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Speaker 1: if you look at how they structured Lawrence's contract, after

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Speaker 1: on something you want me to remember back to twenty thirteen. No,

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Speaker 1: Dak will be what twenty six This summer. I mean,

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Speaker 1: all right, Yes, Friday is the big list from Brian

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Speaker 1: broad Us. Okay, got the top one hundred. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 1: That thing took me eight hours to do. I bet seriously, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a I'm excited. It'll be out Friday

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Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely um my concern is two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys didn't have a first round draft pick. This

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Speaker 1: team is better equipped. They didn't have a second round

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Speaker 1: pick either. They traded, They traded twice out of it.

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Speaker 1: That's right. But the what eases my concern is that

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Speaker 1: I think that draft was a really poor draft. If

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Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, Bill, and you're fair to mention that

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Speaker 1: the plate and came up empty. Oh for four sombreros

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Speaker 1: for everybody, that kind of thing. So yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: a very difficult draft for a lot of teams. It

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Speaker 1: surely didn't help this team at all. That that was

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Speaker 1: as that was going along, and then you watched how

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Speaker 1: if you go back and if you ever go on

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Speaker 1: But I think, and I haven't looked at it recently,

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Speaker 1: I think you could go back and look at that

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Speaker 1: overall draft and you won't find a lot of players. No, No,

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Speaker 1: at fifty one or whatever it was. Yeah, we didn't

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Speaker 1: do much of anything in this league. Absolutely. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: and that's good. You know. I was actually I was

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Speaker 1: and it just it makes a lot of sense now

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Speaker 1: think that's a good thing for this organization. How important

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Speaker 1: and that was you got into an eight and eight

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Speaker 1: you paid a lot of money to defensive end. DeMarcus

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Speaker 1: I mean, you go down the board, you just traded

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Speaker 1: How important is this draft in order to make sure

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Speaker 1: Here you had all a lot of contrent you know,

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Speaker 1: that team got old, right, Yeah, and that's why this

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Speaker 1: sudden they got old. And uh what I forgot his

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Speaker 1: really hurting your team. But yeah, I think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that Will McClay, Stephen Jones, Jerry Jones. I

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Speaker 1: But I would love to work with this coach in

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Speaker 1: And I think that's why your roster has got a chance.

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Speaker 1: That's I think why your roster has gotten a little

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Speaker 1: And it runs in his family. I mean his father,

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00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: Jim for six years. Yeah. Absolutely. One more thing about

632
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: the O nine draft. I mean, you're way behind the

633
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: eight ball if you're picking first your first picks in

634
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: the third round and bundling picks is fine, but what

635
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: eventually you gotta sit and you gotta take a good player,

636
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: and so it's a little different to me. The other

637
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: thing is they made that they lost their first rounder

638
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: that year because what they flipped it for Roy Williams, Right,

639
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: that is a gigantic swing, and miss Amari Cooper is

640
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: a looks like a home run. That's just different to me.

641
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: It's apples. That's a good evaluation with the pro department

642
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: and the college guys working together, and then you've got

643
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: the owner willing to make that move again. I've sat there.

644
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: I've sat there with him when he didn't have picks,

645
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: first round picks. It's most an agonizing thing you can

646
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: watch a man go through. That's why they're going to

647
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: watch Amar Cooper highlight. Yeah, yeah, did you feel a

648
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: little better? Pay attention that draft too, But if you,

649
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: if you, if you think about it, from the nineteen

650
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: ninety four draft through when Jason became the head coach,

651
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: only one head coach had a voice in the draft

652
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: room or wanted to have a voice, and it was Parcels. Yeah,

653
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: and he wasn't always right, but he at least spoke up.

654
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: Switzer didn't mind that Gaily was so new. They didn't

655
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: trust him. Campo kind of went along. Dave Dave, Yeah,

656
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: we did. Dave no favorite and and Wade Phillips, Yeah,

657
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know about coach about Unfortunately the time he

658
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: spoke up, it was for for Williams. Yeah, way too old.

659
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: Jason Williams, the linebacker. That was their topic. And yes,

660
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: who wasn't I don't think he was invited to the combine. No,

661
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: he was a workout warrior though. Yeah. Yeah, that a

662
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: Western Illinois He was invited here and he showed up

663
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: in a coat and tie, and I said, Okay, this

664
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: guy's pretty cool. Yeah for that theory. If that's the case,

665
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: then you want to draft this Abram kid from Mississippi State.

666
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: He's the one that showed up in a nice outfit.

667
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: Did he did? He's got a lot of confidence at

668
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: Jonathan Abram in the safety from Mississippi State. Um. But overall,

669
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: you look at this draft and you feel good that

670
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to be at the other thing

671
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: to consider now, because now we're entering back into that

672
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: era of these huge contracts with de Marcus Lawrence getting

673
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: his money. You got that gonna get his, and then

674
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper and then Byron Jones is out there and

675
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: Zeke's gonna get his all right, So you have got

676
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: to have the lower paid players on your roster making

677
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: major contributions and that's why this locks. Yeah, there you go.

678
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,479
Speaker 1: You need more human lows. But you feel good about

679
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: this draft that they're going to be able to come

680
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: up with their second, third, fourth round picks and get

681
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: guys that are going. Yeah, they've protect themselves with a

682
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: lot of one year deals, which I think is you know,

683
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: that's that's the way that Stephen Jones wanted to attack this.

684
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: I think that's the right way to go. But yeah, absolutely,

685
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: you know, you get down into like I said, I

686
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: get down into, say into the names I've got on

687
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: my board. If it just I preview this for you

688
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: a little bit, if you get down to if you

689
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: get down to the fifty eight where they're picking in

690
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: my numbers, you know, third round guys. I mean, this

691
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: is just me. I mean, I'll wand Thornhill at fifty four,

692
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel at fifty five, Damien Harris at fifty six,

693
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: Riley Ridley at fifty seven, Anthony Nelson from Iowa the

694
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: defensive in at fifty eight, Jase Sternberger at fifty nine,

695
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: Darnell Savage, the safety from from Maryland at sixty. There's

696
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 1: a quality Dawson Knox at sixty two. You know there's

697
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: guys in that in that area, you know, depending and

698
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna have some guys in the top, you know,

699
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: the top fifty, they're gonna slide to you. You know,

700
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some guys, I mean number forty nine,

701
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: excuse me, forty seven. I have Juwan Williams, the kid

702
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: from Vanderbilt at the cornerback, the big long corner that

703
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: that Chris Richard went up to Nashville worked out. You know,

704
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: you never know, we talked about that as a sneaky

705
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: need LJ call your the defensive end from TCU at

706
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: fifty two. There's quality names right there at fifty eight.

707
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: If this thing falls for him the right way. So

708
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: and I think it will, and I think it will.

709
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: You and you pointed out they've set themselves up nicely.

710
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: I mean you can look at their roster and say

711
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: that people say you need to draft a runner. Well

712
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: that's the thing that might be the one spot you

713
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: look at and say they don't have a backup for Zeke.

714
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: Really that that maybe they're comfortable with. There's a reason.

715
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: There's a reason they brought Damien Harrison right. There is

716
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: a reason they brought him. He's like a second he's

717
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: a second round pick. But what you have him at

718
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 1: is if you and on my board right here, where

719
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: do I have I mentioned at fifty six that's still

720
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: in the second round? Fifty eight Anthony Nelson is my

721
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 1: first third round grade. That's my first third round grade.

722
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: So your second round grade go all the way to

723
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: fifty seven. Yes, on my board, which is Ridley, which

724
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: is Ridley Calvin Ridley. Yeah, so here's talking about what

725
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: you were mentioning about how important this draft is. This

726
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: is this is the draft where you have to find

727
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchens. Yes, meeting the not meeting the linebacker, but

728
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: that type of player who can step in on a

729
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 1: what was the a fourth round, fourth round, fourth round,

730
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: fourth round pick, and he gave you four really productive

731
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: years where you didn't have to go search for a starter.

732
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: Another mean, you get a starter in the fourth round

733
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: and right, and that's what you that's what they need

734
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: to find to supplement what they've done. See, this is

735
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: when you get in the third round. You started talking

736
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: about that, though, Mickey got guys like that, Tristan Hill

737
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: from Central Florida. I mentioned him, I've got him at

738
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: seventy four on the board, So that's a guy. I mean,

739
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: that's a possibility at fifty eight. You know, they brought

740
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: the kid in, but maybe he stretches to ninety. You know,

741
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: maybe that's your defensive tackle. If you turn around and

742
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: you draft, you know, draft one of those tight ends

743
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: and you draft a safety, you know, maybe Tristan Hill

744
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: is sitting there looking at you. Renault Win from Arizona State.

745
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: I got him at seventy six. Gerald Willis is a

746
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: guy from Miami they brought in here. You know, I

747
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: have him at seventy nine. So we're kind of in

748
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: that area that if you wanted to get a defensive tackle,

749
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: if you went safety and then turn around and got

750
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle with my board, my one hundred falls

751
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: the right way. Then those are the players who are

752
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: looking at at ninety. And that's not terrible either. You know,

753
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: Trevion Williams, I was talking about him from Texas A

754
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: and m got him at number eighty three. Love him, yeah,

755
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: love him. So if you if you're if you want

756
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: that guy, if you Emmanuel Hall from Missouri eighty two, well,

757
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that's kind of that's kind of

758
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: the guys you're looking at right there at that that,

759
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: I think he's a pretty good player, Mick. I know

760
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: I got him in the third round. I know you

761
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: as an alum you proby hate him, but the film

762
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: to me was pretty good. Yeah, well go go go

763
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: watch the Middle Tennessee State game. Yeah, yep, you gotta

764
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: watch him playing the other Alabamas and Georgia's and stuff

765
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: like that that I watch. And Emmanuel Hall is a

766
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: six two, two hundred eleven pounder. We ran a four

767
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: three nine and he's got five five hands. M we'll see,

768
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: we shall see, we shall see's awfully good. Look at

769
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: this though, Vick, they're hit right now. He's lightening him up. Yeah,

770
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: he is lightening him up. Go find the times we're

771
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: playing Auburn right here. Oh that's a touchdowns? Yeah no,

772
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: that might not be a TA or something that. Yeah,

773
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: if if they're go watch him running in the open

774
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: field at the fifteen yard line and he fumbles the

775
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: ball through the end zone with nobody touching him. If

776
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: they're drafting a wide receiver on day two, Mickey wants debot.

777
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 1: I want I want the Boys to draft a manual

778
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: ball now, just so that we're gonna send Mickey to

779
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: go interview him about his career. Mickey will have his

780
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: Missouri sweatshirt on? What about that Middle Tennessee State in

781
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: front of him? All right? If the Cowboys draft a

782
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: Manual Hall, Mickey, you have to promise that you're going

783
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: to interview Emmanual Hall and you're going to ask him

784
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: about the Middle Tennessee State game and fumbling the ball

785
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: through the ends. All right, I guarantee you that will not. Yeah,

786
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he'll have all Mickey will have

787
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: his Coach Farroe shirt on or whatever mnual Hall of Fame.

788
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: So good to have you here, young man. You've I've

789
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: watched you for years or my favorite player. He wasn't

790
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: as good as Damian Washington. That's true, Okay, Cowboys brought

791
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: him in as an undrafted free agent. All right, So

792
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: I ran across this running back name. I don't know

793
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: if he's gonna make your lists. He may be too.

794
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: It was kind of a those sleeper guys, um sleepers,

795
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: and this day Xander Madison boys steak good players. Keep

796
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: him coming, ye, those keep those boys to one fourth

797
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: round maybe fifth round. Yes, not only is he a

798
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: running back he also can catch passes. I read, and

799
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: he played special teams and he was a gunner. Yeah,

800
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: he made a bunch of tackles. Be careful what you read,

801
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: but yeah, we'll be okay. Well, I'm just saying that's

802
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: what I read. And you're not concerned with a four

803
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: six seven forty. You know what, there's a lot of

804
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: guys in this draft that are kind of that that

805
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: four six guy. You look at the kid holy Field

806
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: from Georgia. He can do he can do everything. And

807
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: do you think Emmett ran him forty not super fast? Right? No,

808
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: that it was four six while we just compared to

809
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: holy Field. No, I'm just saying this guy for a

810
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: backup running back in place, there's no questions and yeah, yes,

811
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: there's no question. Question, there's no question. I just you know,

812
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: to me, it's if you if there's several running backs

813
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: at third round that compensatory four, you know there's there's

814
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: gonna be an opportunity to grab a guy. Right, let

815
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: me and we're gonna take a break. But I want

816
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: to ask you about one running back Oklahoma. Okay, what

817
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: do you think we'll tease that next, we'll tease that next.

818
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Speaker 1: and I will agree with that. All right, we've got

882
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: twelve minutes to go here. Yeah, we had fifteen when

883
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: we started. Yeah, all right, Rodney Anderson, Yeah, back Oklahoma.

884
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: What do you think? Yeah, Rodney Anderson, here's a guy

885
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: that suffered an ACL injury and early in the season

886
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen season gets UCLA, and up until that time,

887
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: he'd been really pretty good player for Oklahoma, really steady runner.

888
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: I didn't think he had very much home run speed.

889
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: But what I really liked about him is he does

890
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: a good job of finding lanes. You know, when you

891
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: watch him run that big Oklahoma line, you gotta watch

892
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: all those cats there's for him that are gonna go

893
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: very high in these in this draft. But they's the

894
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: very patient runner. He kind of gives them. They hand

895
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 1: him the ball inside, he waits, he waits, he waits,

896
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 1: and then he ghosts. But again, I think that he's

897
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: got the good initial quickness of what I saw once

898
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: he got the ball in. I think the best thing

899
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: he does is catch the football. You see him make

900
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: some incredible catches for a running back coming out of

901
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: the backfield and they swing it to him and you know,

902
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: and Murray does a good job and get into him

903
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: on the ghost so he can get up the field.

904
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: But I thought he was a really good runner when

905
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: it came a balance too. He's a hard guy to

906
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: knock off his feet. He'll duck, you'll dodge, he'll spin.

907
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he'll do everything he can to kind of

908
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: to stay on his feet to stay alive. He's got

909
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: a nose for an end zone. When you get him

910
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: down there close and they hand him the football, he

911
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: could finish and you know when he gets close, he's

912
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: gonna score. The knee injury is a big concern, and

913
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: Mickey and I have a date with the medical staff

914
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: to kind of go through some of these players this week,

915
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: and I'm interested to see how things checked out for

916
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: Rodney Anderson, running back Oklahoma. That was at the medical

917
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 1: re check that the combines last week in any now, well,

918
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: and I know that they I'm sure I don't remember

919
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: what the nature of his neck injury was that's another thing. Yeah,

920
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure they checked him out thoroughly on that. He

921
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 1: had a broken leg his true freshman year and basically

922
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: miss most all of that season at eleven carries one

923
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: hundred nineteen yards and three touchdowns that year. Okay, so

924
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: basically one game average eleven yards of carry. Then all right,

925
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That was his last year there. Okay, his

926
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 1: first year there just got into two games and suffered

927
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: a broken leg. His second year, had a neck injury

928
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: in preseason drills. Missed that entire season. They didn't need

929
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: him anyway because they had p ryany mixing, right, but

930
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: they in Baker Mayfields Heisman Trophy winning season. Rodney Anderson

931
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: was a huge reason why Baker won the Heisman that year.

932
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 1: He ran for eleven hundred yards and as you mentioned,

933
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: seventeen catches for two hundred and eighty one yards, averaging

934
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: sixteen and a half yards a catch, and those weren't

935
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: catches down field, those where he's catching the ball out

936
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: of the backfield, swing it and going exactly. Yeah, he's

937
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: got a terrific toughness about him. He's a physical specimen.

938
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: He had twenty five bench reps okay at the combine,

939
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: wasn't able to do anything else. He's one of those guys.

940
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: There's a video out there where of him jumping out

941
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: of a pool onto the side of the pool. I mean,

942
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: he's got his vertical is just through the roof. What's

943
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: going to be very interesting on him is when somebody,

944
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: because of the medical when someone takes a chance on

945
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: this is sounding this sounds a lot like Bryce Love Stanford. Yeah,

946
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: there's another one, Bryce Love, two thousand yard rusher a

947
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Who now, what what do you

948
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: get any started this? Yeah, he's I mean that's another

949
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: guy that you draft him in the mock draft? No,

950
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: Dan did. Dan Dane picked him with the compensatory was

951
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: at one thirty nine that compens pick something like that. Yeah,

952
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: he was the only offensive player that Briggler took. I

953
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: think Anderson he would have had his ACL surgery about

954
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: two or three months earlier than Love. Yeah, there's if

955
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: he is ACL, then he could be ready for the

956
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: start of the season. Absolutely. Is there water in the pool? Yeah,

957
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: that's impressive. Huh. Why don't you do the physical probabilities

958
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: of that? The equation? I think i'd have equals MC squared.

959
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: He jumped out of out of the pool. I've seen

960
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: other guys do that, but what really get athletes do

961
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: it with water? Yeah, we can't do that. They gave

962
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: me that because they're great athletes. This thing, this time machine, mickey,

963
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: they call it YouTube. You can maybe find that if

964
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: you want to look at it. I will go look

965
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, make sure it wouldn't Love did that

966
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: or Rodney Anderson answer, can't pay attention to the show.

967
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: Let's go yeah, mixing it up here? Yeah? And so

968
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: do you like the running backs as I like the

969
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: running backs as a whole? Absolutely? I like the running backs.

970
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: I was looking at several of them. Which which of

971
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: the running backs do you like? Um? How about might

972
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: would be maybe available at fifty eight? Well, well I

973
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: have let's go down him. My number twenty four, actually

974
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: twenty four player on my board is Josh Jacobs from Alabama.

975
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm just giving all the way here. If you like

976
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: Damien Harris or Josh Jacobs better. I like Josh Jacob.

977
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: I do I have him rated higher? He is my

978
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: number twenty fourth player. As we go down, as we

979
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: go down, as we go down, I have Mike Miles

980
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: Sanders from Penn State at number forty nine, and then

981
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: Damian Harrison number fifty six. So I have a one

982
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: and then two twos? Is how that's going to work

983
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: for me? Right there? Where's that guy from pit that

984
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: we saw the highlight? Yeah? I didn't have that guy

985
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: from the pit on my board, and it's his Connor.

986
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: There we go, guys, but yeah, oh look at can't

987
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: you beasts? Can't Garrison? I hope it's going okay, hopefully,

988
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: my gosh, I hope we could see this again. All right,

989
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: stam it a nutrition here we go and a one

990
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: and a two. He didn't hit it? Wow? All right,

991
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: I hope you're watching at home. This is post a

992
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: cl No, this pre Rodney Anderson. Are you sure that's

993
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: Rodney Anderson? Help us out, KNT. Well it was a

994
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: cool visual regardless, and he didn't. It's actually ban When

995
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: you said that, I was thinking the water was like

996
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: up to his chest. Nah, well it's he's not gonna

997
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: jump out of the deep end. Yeah you want to

998
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: you want to hear some running backs? Puddle, I tell

999
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: you the running backs that I do, like that, Uh,

1000
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: that Daryl Henderson from Memphis. I have him been sixty nine,

1001
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: and then I'm went down my list here as I speak,

1002
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: Trevion Williams, I have at eighty three, and then David

1003
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: Montgomery at eight one. I want to ask you about

1004
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: David Montgomery. David Montgomery, there's a complete back for your

1005
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: eye like him. Yeah, David Montgomery. If you follow the

1006
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: Big twelve, you know all about Thanks Bill for doing

1007
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: the draft show for me today. Here on whatever. They

1008
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: were running back from Memphis, the running back from that Pollocks,

1009
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: and there's two of them. There's Henderson and there's Paul Pollocks.

1010
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: More of a receiver, more wide receiver type. Yeah, you

1011
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: can put him in the backfield, uh and hand him

1012
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: to football. Got really good running style. Uh, quick guy.

1013
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: You could also play him out wide that people throw

1014
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: him in the slot and those slants to him, stuff

1015
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: like that. Henderson's another guy that they they is. I

1016
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: think he's more of a quicker guy. He's a shorter guy.

1017
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: He's five aids one hundred and ninety nine pounds kind

1018
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: of a guy. But yeah, there's there's some quality backs.

1019
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: There's I'm excited. I'm excited if the Cowboys do in

1020
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 1: fact at ninety want to get it back and again.

1021
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: I think very keep an eye on on Harris at

1022
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: fifty eight. I know it's driving. People say that gives

1023
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: me anxiety because I just I'm good with taking best available,

1024
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: but he's not gonna play. Yeah, there's people like this

1025
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: Justice Hill too from Oklahoma state. By the way, So

1026
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: are you about if Montgomery was there in the third round?

1027
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: I'm okay, third round in on, but second round again.

1028
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 1: It reminds me of all those second round tight ends

1029
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: they drafted when Jason Witton was in his prime and

1030
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: never came off the field. You know what, people on

1031
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: the periscope asked me about Devin the singletary from Florida Atlantic,

1032
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: and he is outside my top one hundred. What about

1033
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: de Mario Crockett? The Mario Crockett. Are you that grin

1034
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: on Mickey's face? Missouri guy? Yeah, he came out too.

1035
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: It's a hard runner. Yeah, he's gotta stay healthy though.

1036
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: All right, how about unless there's Rodney Anderson right here?

1037
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: Here's Rodney and Okay, yeah, there's Rodney Anderson. Okay, that

1038
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: was not out of the pool, okay, or that or

1039
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: maybe that is that's Rodney. There's Rodney right there. That's him.

1040
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: That was pretty impressive right there. And here's our runner

1041
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: from David Montgomery. Montgomery, Yeah, he's another one of those guys.

1042
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: He's like Anderson that really catches the ball. Well. They

1043
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: they feature him at Iowa State, like they you know,

1044
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 1: hand him in the inside handoff. He kind of picks

1045
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: and choose where he wants to get a little slide

1046
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: to his game though. I like him catching the football.

1047
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: I think he's a really good pass blocker too. When

1048
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: you want those complete backs, this is with these guys.

1049
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: You need to look for those guys because scheme wise,

1050
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: those are the guys that don't come off the field,

1051
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: and so keep an eye on these. I just I

1052
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: like all these backs in the second, third, fourth round.

1053
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot of quality that people.

1054
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: There might be a run there too as we get

1055
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 1: going on. You know on that Friday of the draft,

1056
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: that that second day that we will be in this

1057
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: room and we might all send round. All of a sudden,

1058
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: here they go, there's like six seven of them in

1059
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: a row. Kind of a thing about safe, Well, might

1060
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: there be a run on Safety's about that same time.

1061
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: You know there's people Dane Brugler said, this about somebody

1062
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: he's hearing about Taylor Rapp, the safety from Washington. That

1063
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: the fact that he ran the four seven four he

1064
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: you know, and Dane said this on the show the

1065
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: other day, that he's and he's not talking to the

1066
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: cowboy guys, he's talking to people around the league, which

1067
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: I'll do this week myself. But they a lot of

1068
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: people feel like that rap will be there at fifty eight.

1069
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: I find that hard to believe myself, because because he

1070
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: might have been potentially a French first rounder oh yeah,

1071
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: and then seven yeah, worried people exactly. They say, well,

1072
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: he's only he's only a down player, you know, and

1073
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: that's why. But he wasn't just a down play, No,

1074
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: I know, that's what I'm saying that. But people will

1075
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: say at four seven he would only be a down player,

1076
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: and that's I don't think that's the case at all.

1077
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, I'll take him on this team.

1078
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: You know him, Adderley, Abram Gardner Johnson from from Florida.

1079
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: I like him at Thorne Hill. They're talking about Thornhill

1080
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: possibly being a corner black being like Byron Jones, a

1081
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: potential corner that's going to play safety. Can I get

1082
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: him in the third round. Yeah, it's I haven't fifty

1083
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: eight or right at fifty eight, So yeah, he's not

1084
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: gonna stretch past much past that. I don't. I think

1085
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: there's Tony there could very well be for safeties. Go

1086
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: but find the time to Cowboys pick. Okay, So you

1087
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: had the argument last week. I was treed for the argument.

1088
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: No you did. Oh I didn't gut feeling, oh or

1089
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: whatever it was. Oh, yeah, so you draft the safety

1090
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: in the second round as he's starting. See, no he's not,

1091
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: probably not because coaches will not. And that's the argument

1092
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: I used that. I didn't think initially it took him

1093
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: how many games did take him to it took an

1094
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: injury and coaches to start vandresh am I write about that,

1095
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: Um Sean got hurt and then yeah he's get start

1096
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: in the first three games. Right, Yeah, there you go coaches.

1097
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: But I don't really care about that because you can

1098
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: go down the list of all these positions and they

1099
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: have so many guys up for contract after twenty after

1100
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: twenty nine team, so who cares? You know, it's different

1101
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: for me because Zeke is your back. Aaron Woodson started

1102
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: as a rookie. That was Jimmy's big regret that he

1103
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: didn't because coaches will do that. He was changing positions coaches.

1104
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: Coaches can do that. I mean, is it stands right now?

1105
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: I think Jeff Heath is your starting strong sac as

1106
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: it stands right now, over George Iloca and then you

1107
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: got Xavier. But yeah, if you draft a guy, let

1108
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: him come in and compete. All right. You get back

1109
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: to the running back though, and all right, one of

1110
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: the things I think you look at is do you

1111
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: cover yourself in case of injury? And what if something

1112
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: happened to Zeke? What are you doing at running back? Yeah? No,

1113
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: they need somebody there step in. And if you bring

1114
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: a running back in now that it was of quality,

1115
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: then you can perhaps prolong Zeke's career by not having.

1116
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: An argument I made about the running back was you're

1117
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: drafting backup players anyway. That's because you're pretty much settled

1118
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: in a lot of spots. Yeah, I see you're saying,

1119
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: get me the backup running back might be their biggest need.

1120
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: I think it's the one spot I don't disagree not covered.

1121
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: And that's why a lot of people that don't understand

1122
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: this team will kill this team for drafting a backup

1123
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: running back initially initially a backup running back. I wouldn't

1124
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: kill him for it. But but I think you could

1125
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: draft a guy that might help you more than this year.

1126
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean I tackle, yeah, defensive tackle before we have

1127
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: like maybe a minute, but let me give me a

1128
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: position other than running back that you you absolutely have

1129
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: to have. I've been saying, add another defensive tackle to

1130
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: come in and compete with the guys you signed with

1131
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: with MALIEK Collins, MALIEK Collins carry hider Christian Covington. If

1132
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: you find a stud, that guy could still earn snaps

1133
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: on this defense um somewhere along the line. And I'm

1134
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: not saying second third round. I need an offensive tackle,

1135
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: maybe a right tackle. He's not hyll is up after

1136
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: this unless your back up, unless you're planning on moving,

1137
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: unless you're planning on starting Joe Looney at left guard

1138
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: and putting the letting Connor Williams work snaps, be the

1139
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: swing guy at tackle. And if that's what you want

1140
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: to do, get him ready for next year. You know

1141
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: what about you? Well, if there's if it fits in

1142
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: its draft, if it's if it's the best player to

1143
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: take at that point. Tight end is one that I'd

1144
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: like to see we hit three different spots, anywhere different spots. Yeah,

1145
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: that just shows you, well, we can go for wide receiver. Yeah,

1146
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: well you can. You can the running backs. I mean

1147
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I mean, they're they're at fifty eight.

1148
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: If if my top one hundred holds true, you're gonna

1149
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: have a choice at every one of those positions. You

1150
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: guys wanted Joe On Williams. Yeah, absolutely so, laying Damian

1151
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: Wilson's spot. I think Lee. I don't think you think

1152
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: Shanlee's playing strong side lineback. I'd like to. I'd like

1153
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: I was told he could play anywhere they want him

1154
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: to play. I'd like to see that he's don't get

1155
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: to play. It's a part time spot. But they initially

1156
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: moved him, but we side to kelvern him up. He

1157
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: could play Sam and he could spell the guys. Yeah, Christ, Christ,

1158
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: you all right? I think we'll talk draft next Tuesday.

1159
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,919
Speaker 1: You think yeah? I think maybe? So? All right, talking

1160
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: to you later. This has been a production of Dallas

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