1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Sports Radio the. 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: Big News Now. It might not sound like big news, 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 2: but it struck me as a little news ish. And 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: that's the Lakers with Lebron James. He opts in, and 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if there was any real mystery that 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: would he not opt in, would he become a free agent? 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: Does he want to go someplace else? Keep in mind 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: what he said on his podcast with Steve Nash that 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: it's really not about rings if you're going to look 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: at somebody's legacy or their greatness. And I thought it 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: was his way passive aggressively saying, hey, I'm not going 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: to catch Michael Jordan, but that doesn't mean I'm not 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: better than Michael Jordan. It was a passive aggressive comment. 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: And if they counted the passive aggressive assist for Lebron James, 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: he probably have about five hundred more assist on his total. 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: Very passive aggressive, very good at being passive aggressive. Agent 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: Rich Paul said that Lebron knows the Lakers are building 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: for the future, but he also wants to compete for championships. 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: This is Rich Paul telling the athletic and the mothership 21 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 2: goes on to say, we understand the difficulty in winning 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: now while preparing for the future. We do want to 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: evaluate what's best for Lebron at this stage in his 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: life and career. He wants to make every season he 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: has left count and the Lakers understand them, and they're 26 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: supportive and they want what's best for him. We're very 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: appreciative of the partnership we've had for eight years with 28 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: Genie Buss, Rob Polenka, and consider the Lakers as a 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: critical part of his career. Okay, this is all about 30 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: Luka Doncic. This is his team now. It's official. Lebron, 31 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: hey got some nice parting gifts. I hope you enjoy 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: a farewell tour. You and Aaron Rodgers can have farewell tours. 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: You can play one more season with your son here. 34 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: But this is about the Lakers, not wanting to do 35 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: something drastic just for now. This is about building the future. 36 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: Is Austin Reeve's going to stay there? He turned down 37 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: a contract extension. He's going to make more money, but 38 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: this will be the final year and they're going to 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: have to pay more money, and rightfully so, I mean, 40 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: he's been a bargain, a very good player. 41 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: Luca wants to have a big man. Who are you 42 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: going to get? 43 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: And the first thing I thought of is Lebron's staying 44 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: and look, he's still maybe a top ten player, certainly 45 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: top fifteen player. But they want to be in the 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: sweepstakes for Jannis. That's what struck me here is, Hey, 47 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: Milwaukee has traded a big man to Los Angeles before 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 2: and it worked out really well for the Lakers. Can 49 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: they get Yannis? Would they be involved in that picture? 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: When you clear Lebron's salary fifty plus million off the books? 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: And I think that's what this is all about. It's 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: Luca's team. Lebron is there and there's going to be 53 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: a farewell tour. And you know, for everybody who said, 54 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: wait a minute, I thought Lebron's the GM. Maybe he 55 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: was the GM five or six years ago, seven years ago, 56 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: not the GM. Now, now, what are you going to do? 57 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: Can you do something and you're still going to be competitive? 58 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you can win upwards of fifty five games 59 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: this year, I think. But they right now, the Lakers 60 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: have the fifth best odds to win the title according 61 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: to DraftKings. To win the Western Conference, they're up there, 62 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: but Houston's really good. Okay, see just won a title, 63 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: So you've got to start there. You're not on their level, 64 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: at least not right now, because those teams are young 65 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: and still hungry and they're deep. The Lakers are not. 66 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean with Luca. We've seen Luca take 67 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: a team to the NBA Finals. Now you do have 68 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: Lebron and Reeves, you do have some pieces there. The 69 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: question is sort of what is reality? And in Los 70 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: Angeles Hollywood, you don't always deal in reality. Sometimes you're 71 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: like in La La Land. 72 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: Seet's see what I did? 73 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: Okay you guys, hey, come on show started to La 74 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: La Land. Thank you, thank you, thank you. See and 75 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 2: win totals, uh, not available yet of what the Lakers 76 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: win total prop bet would be, but uh, you know, 77 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: probably a fifty two to fifty three win team. But 78 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: you know they bowed out against Minnesota early against a 79 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: younger team. Once again, you've got a factor in Minnesota 80 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: as well, because they're still a formidable team. But it 81 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: just struck me, as hey, what about Lebron And it 82 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: felt like the Lakers were saying, yeah, yeah, we're going 83 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: to pay him that money and keep his son on 84 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: the roster, and but this is Luca's team, and now 85 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: what we do will be to incorporate what we think 86 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: will help Luca in the future. This is about the few, 87 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 2: It's not about now. Got to keep Lebron. He wants 88 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: to stay in La, all the business opportunities he has, 89 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: and you have your son there. But it feels like 90 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: this is the last year Lebron plays for the Lakers. 91 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: Does he play another year someplace else? That's always the possibility. Yes, Buony. 92 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 4: This reminds you of SEC football when you have a 93 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 4: really good senior quarterback, but you have a five star 94 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 4: recruit coming in and the five star recruit is wagging 95 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: the dog like Clemson back in the day. I saw 96 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 4: the quote by Rich Paul, I understood it. Obviously, you 97 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: want to do as much as you can in the 98 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 4: near future to build for the near future. But the 99 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: Lakers five months ago, yesterday or tomorrow, they traded for 100 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 4: Luka Dacic, which establishes their current and future. In one 101 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: of the great swindles in recent basketball history. It's like 102 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: they forgot about this. 103 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was building for the future, but it was 104 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: helping now by getting one of the top five players 105 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 2: in the world. But I don't know if Lebron sees 106 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: it that way. He knows it's Luca's team. Why make 107 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: this public? Can you make it public to put pressure 108 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: on the front office to do something here, or if 109 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: the team's not that good, we told you to do something. 110 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: I'm just kind of surprised that rich Paul was going 111 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: to say this, you know, publicly, Yes, Mormon, rich. 112 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 5: Paul's treating the Lakers like they're the hornets, Like, are 113 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 5: you guys trying to compete? They're the Lakers. Of course 114 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 5: they're trying to compete. Why do you think they got Luca? 115 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 5: Just like PAULI said, that's stupid. 116 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but why would you say this publicly? 117 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 2: Don't do you think the front office doesn't realize, Hey Lebron, 118 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: don't forget about Lebron. Hey we gotta win championships. Hey, 119 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 2: it's about now. Don't you think you had that conversation 120 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: with them when you decided to opt in on that salary. Absolutely, 121 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: I would guess you would say to Rob Polenka, hey 122 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: he's gonna opt in, but you got to help him 123 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: out a little bit here. I was just kind of 124 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: surprised that, Hey. 125 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: This is about now. Too. 126 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: Don't forget about Lebron. This is about the future with Luca. 127 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: We get that, but I mean, what do you expect 128 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: them to do, like trade Austin Reeves and then you're 129 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: getting what they still need shooting? They need a big 130 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: man perimeter defense is I mean, there's some issues here 131 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: that it doesn't just solve it by And Lebron wasn't 132 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: taking a discount. They said that right away. He's you know, 133 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: he's not giving you a hometown discount. Here just feels 134 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: like this is a strange comment to make the end 135 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: of June. This is still a good team. Are they 136 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: better than Denver? Better than Minnesota? They're not better than 137 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: the Rockets, I don't think. And they're not better than OKC. 138 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: If you just start there now, you still have some 139 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: bottom feeders there in the West. But are they fifth seed? 140 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: Are they going to be better than Dallas? When Kyriez 141 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: comes back, that team might be better. Yeah, you know, 142 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: I think if you're if you're I don't know. I'm 143 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: just trying to play devil's advocate, I guess. But if 144 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: you're an Aging Stars agent and you decide to give 145 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: it one more go, maybe just putting the emphasis even 146 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: though everybody knows it on you know, we don't have 147 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: a lot of time left and Lebron needs to win 148 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 2: right now. So we know the Lakers are gonna carry 149 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: on long after Lebron James is finished, but he needs 150 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: to win right now, and that's where our focus is 151 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: on right now. You guys might be looking more to 152 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 2: the future, but we need to do this right now, 153 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: and that you know, I don't know that it's as 154 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: like maybe not sinister is the right word, but I 155 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: don't know that it's any deeper than like, you know, 156 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: this dude's only got maybe a year left here, so 157 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: we got to win this year. I don't think there's 158 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: anything wrong with that. But do you think the front 159 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 2: office doesn't realize then I. 160 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: Don't know that. 161 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 6: I think that the front office probably doesn't look at 162 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 6: it as crucially important this one year. 163 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: As the guy who's like I might be done after this, 164 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: I only. 165 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 6: Got one year left, maybe two, whereas the Lakers see 166 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 6: themselves as a global brand and for hundreds of years. 167 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: But if you're Lebron and here you're his agent, don't 168 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: you then say to the front office, are you guys 169 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: all in this year? And then if you're not. Hey, 170 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: we're building for the future. I mean, we're in and 171 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: we're all in. But with the pieces that we have 172 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: right now, they're waiting for Lebron's salary to be off 173 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: the books. So that's the weird part of this. 174 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, Seden, Well maybe it's setting up a you know, 175 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 6: I don't know mid season. 176 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 3: It's saucy. 177 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: I don't see it happening because if you're Lebron, Let's say, 178 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: because he has a no trade you don't want to 179 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: go to a team. You're gonna weak by going to them, 180 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: and they have to give pieces to the Lakers. If 181 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 2: he was going to go, let's say he wanted to 182 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: go back to Cleveland. Now's when you go just say, 183 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to go. Put me on that team and 184 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: we're going to be the favorites in the East. We'll 185 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: be the favorites because the East is damaged right now. 186 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: You want to win another title, win a title in Cleveland, 187 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: you can do that. But I just think there's selfish reasons. 188 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: You want to stay in La. Your family's in LA 189 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: business opportunities, your son's playing for the team. 190 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 3: You probably can't have it both ways there. 191 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 2: But to me, this is really signaling that, yes, you're here, 192 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: we will compete this year, but then we have to 193 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: move on. There's a whole nother era that's going to start, 194 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: and maybe it started this weekend. 195 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 5: Yes, Mart, if you're the Lakers, do you ask Rich 196 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 5: Paul flat out, hey, do you think Lebron has one 197 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 5: year left or two years left? Just so we can 198 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 5: get this show on the road. As far as pre 199 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 5: for the future with Luca as their. 200 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: Guy, well, did you do a one plus one or 201 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: is it just a one year deal? That might tell 202 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: you too with the Lakers that they may look at 203 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: this as a one year deal. 204 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: I mean, he's obviously still a. 205 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 2: Great player, and still a draw and still important, like 206 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: all of those things. I just think they're saying, that 207 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: guy's forty and that guy's twenty six, We're hitching our 208 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: wagon to him and come along for the ride. He 209 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: is the guy who's leading us, not you, yeampolling. 210 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: It is ironic that if this were any other sport, 211 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 4: they would move on from Lebron James. If this or football, 212 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 4: they would have moved on from well before they were 213 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 4: into this situation. Even baseball, they try not to keep 214 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 4: older guys at the very very end. But the NFL 215 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 4: would never have this direction for a franchise. 216 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three DP show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com, 217 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 2: twitter handle at DP show. Got a gambling investigation, federal 218 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: investigation into one of the Detroit Pistons. We'll talk about 219 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: that at the prop bets, that's the key. Took away 220 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: prop bets from college football, college athletics, and they make 221 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: a lot of money prop bets. But then, you know, 222 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: are players realizing they can make some money too, And 223 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: you know, we talked about this early this morning and 224 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 2: Fritzy goes, why would you do that? You know you're 225 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: already making a lot of money. He was ready to sign, easily, 226 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: ready to sign a three year, forty two million dollar deal. 227 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: Well you do it because you don't think he'll get caught. 228 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: If that's the case, If that's what happened in this situation. 229 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: You know John Kay Porter, Michael Porter Junior, the Third's brother, 230 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: he was hanging on. He was a fringe player and 231 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 2: probably saying, hey, you know what, I can help some friends. 232 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: Maybe I get a couple hundred thousand dollars out of 233 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: a day. You're not thinking, hey, why, hey, I could 234 00:12:54,160 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: get caught. You're you. You don't think that way. You think, hey, 235 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: this is a great opportunity. Nobody will notice. I mean, 236 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: that's the great part of this for me is the NBA. 237 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: If it's true, they caught him, they found this, they 238 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: saw this. You know, Vegas polices, they have to police 239 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: the sport. It's their business, multi billion dollar business. We 240 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: have to be aware of everything. But we'll have more 241 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: on this coming up next hour. But I don't care 242 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: how small you know that you think or nobody's going 243 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 2: to notice me. 244 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: They will. They have to. 245 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: It's like whenever you see something that looks strange, it 246 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: goes from this to this that Vegas knows this, they're 247 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: watching this. But Beasley is a nine year veteran. You 248 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: got some money. If it's true that you are shaving 249 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: points or prop bets, they'll catch you. They'll find you. 250 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: They have to, it's their job, it's imperative. But for 251 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: these guys to go, nobody's gonna notice this little thing here, Hey, 252 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: over under rebounds is six and a half. Nobody will notice. 253 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: They have to notice because if you tell somebody, that 254 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 2: person tells somebody that it's a game of telephone. After that, hey, 255 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: I got it. I got a tip. This happened to 256 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: me when I gambled. Somebody would say, hey, you know 257 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: what I'm hearing? 258 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and. 259 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: Then somebody would say and then all of a sudden, 260 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: by the time I got to the bed, it went 261 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: from six and a half to nine and a half. 262 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: Like it was like, Okay, something's up. And then the 263 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: bookies go, hey, we're going to react accordingly. And then 264 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: they take it off the the off the board. They're 265 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: gonna find you, They're gonna get you. And if that's 266 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: the case, and the Fed's involved in this, now this 267 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: isn't the NBA, it's the Feds. We'll talk about that 268 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: coming up. All right, we'll get to phone calls eight 269 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: seven to seven to three. DP show email addre SDP 270 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle it TP show. How 271 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: about we take a break on this Monday morning. We're 272 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: back after this. 273 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 274 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: the nation. 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Picture if you will, 283 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 7: a world where we chat with captains of industry in media, sports, 284 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 7: and more every week explore some amazing facts about human 285 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 7: nature and more. Listen to The Fifth Hour with Ben 286 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 7: Maller on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you 287 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 7: get your podcasts. 288 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: All Right, the NBA Free Agency month got underway this weekend, 289 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: and the biggest ish news is is going to stay 290 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. I don't know if anybody's surprised. I 291 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: think the surprising part was his agent, his representative, Rich Paul, 292 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: kind of making it, well, not kind of making it 293 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: public of hey, Lebron wants to win. Now, we know 294 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: you're thinking about the future. The future is now for 295 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: Lebron James. I'm sure the front office really appreciated Rich 296 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: Paul going public with that and saying what didn't need 297 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: to be said. I think the front office is well 298 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: aware that this might be lebron last year, but he's 299 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: going to opt in. He has no trade clause, and 300 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: I didn't know if it was going to be a 301 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: two year deal or a one plus, but by all 302 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: accounts it's a one year deal. And Rich Paul pointing 303 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: out to the Lakers that Lebron still wants to win. 304 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 6: All right, poll question, Seaton, what do we have? Well, 305 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 6: we got two of them right now? We have up 306 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 6: there in which league is it toughest to go from 307 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 6: worst to first? And I only put up three right now. 308 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 6: I put up NBA, MLB and the NFL toughest to 309 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 6: go worst to first? 310 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 3: Right now? 311 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 6: Major League Baseball is winning that one, okay, but I 312 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 6: think that's going to change. 313 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 3: We also have to put up there. 314 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 6: And this is a little bit of a topic, but 315 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 6: is there a term for a player who is neither 316 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 6: a bust nor a star that goes first overall? So 317 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 6: DeAndre Ayton, Yes, this is called the DeAndre Ayton poll. 318 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: Okay, because I think he's going to be a free agent. 319 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: He was number one pick, but he was also number 320 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: one pick in the draft that gave us Luca and Trey. 321 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 3: Young as well. 322 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 2: But DeAndre Ayton, he went to the University of Arizona, 323 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: and the owner at the time, I think Robert Sarver thought, 324 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 2: let's keep the local talent in Arizona, not thinking that 325 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: maybe we get a generational Allen or. 326 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 3: A worldwide talent. 327 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: But not everybody knew about Luca, and I mean, let's 328 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: be fair about this that I did watch. I watched 329 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: highlights of him in Europe, and I just thought that 330 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: he was barely getting by people, barely getting his shot off. 331 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: And then I realized that's what he does in the NBA. 332 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: He barely gets by you, barely gets his shot off, 333 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 2: but he does it every single time. Trey Young I 334 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: thought was going to be a thing. I thought that 335 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: he would be a guy who could be a specialist. 336 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 2: Turned out that he's a really good passer as well. 337 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: But DeAndre Ayton, I don't think he's bad enough to 338 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: be a bust. But I don't think he's good enough 339 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: to be one of those guys that you look and 340 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: say he was worthy of the number one pick. 341 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 3: Yes, Pauline. 342 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 4: He's been in the league DeAndre Eton for seven years. 343 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 4: He averages about fourteen and ten. 344 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 8: He's had. 345 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 4: The best season was his second year. He averaged eighteen 346 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 4: to eleven. He has never made an All Star team 347 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 4: in seven years. 348 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to make it all now. 349 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 8: So we know what we know about his career. Yes, 350 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 8: we need a term. 351 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 4: Disappointing that almost seems harsh unfulfilled. 352 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could do that, like we're looking for one word. 353 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, not a bust nor a star. 354 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 9: Right. 355 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Seen, when you. 356 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 6: Look at number one overall picks for years and years 357 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 6: and years surrounding that one, he's doing pretty well compared 358 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 6: to everybody else. He's significantly more successful than a lot 359 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 6: of dudes that went number one overall. 360 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: It's a lot of times it's just like Peyton Manning 361 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: and Ryan Leaf. 362 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 3: You know that Ryan Leaf was viewed to bust. 363 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: He was never gonna, you know, and it made it 364 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: worse because Peyton was one of the greats of all time. 365 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: So sometimes Sam Bouie not here fault, but he was 366 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 2: injury prone and you know, they ended up taking Sam 367 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: Buie in Portland. 368 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 3: Michael Jordan was in the draft. 369 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 2: So I think that has to do with how we 370 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: look at you of we could have had him, and 371 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 2: Ayton is serviceable. I could see him playing for the Lakers, 372 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: but I don't know if serviceable is I don't know, Hey, 373 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 2: how would you describe his talents serviceable. 374 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 375 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: Point also in that draft with DeAndre Ayton, Luca Trey Young, 376 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 4: as you said, SGA and Jalen Brunson were in that draft. 377 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that doesn't help in how we look at you. 378 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: But but if you said, hey, this guy's going to 379 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 2: average sixteen and ten for his career and he's the 380 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: number one overall pick, I'm good. If he was like 381 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: the eighth pick in the draft, you'd go, hey, wow, 382 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: all right, sixteen ten, that's good. 383 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: Yes, Mark, See he needed to be in the Anthony 384 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 3: Bennett draft. 385 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 5: There was nobody in that drift but good career by him. 386 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Caves. 387 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: Caves would have had a good guy, good player, sixteen 388 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: and ten, serviceable. 389 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: Yes, you'll take it. I would. 390 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: I don't know what the ceiling was when you say unfulfilled. 391 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: Unfulfilled because he's the number one pick, or was he 392 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: a guy that people thought, man, this guy is going 393 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 2: to be I thought Jaron Jackson Junior the third was 394 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: going to be great, and and he's he's really good. 395 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: But I thought he was going to be great. That 396 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: he could play defense, offense, he could shoot, he had range, blockshot, 397 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 2: you know, all those things. But he was in that 398 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: draft too, wasn't he Marvin Jaron Jackson Junior? The third 399 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: did he go like third was going? 400 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 401 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: So I don't know if we look at the ceiling 402 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: and then go and like how high is the ceiling 403 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 2: for DeAndre Aiden? And if he's that good, why is 404 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: he on the move again? Yes, Marvin, because he's just serviceable. 405 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: He's not a franchise changer. And I think that's the issue. 406 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: They were thinking about the old school days of the nineties. 407 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: We need to dominate big man, and you had Trey 408 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 2: Young and Luca right there. But to your defense, nobody knew. 409 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: Luca, no, buddy. Yeah, yeah. 410 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 4: We need a comp in another sport, a player who 411 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 4: has taken number one overall, probably a quarterback who didn't 412 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 4: have a bad career, just never really paid off. Sam Bradford. 413 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: Serviceable. 414 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 8: I don't think he made a Pro Bowl. 415 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: He made a lot of money, Yes he did. 416 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 8: So did DeAndre Aid. Yeah, that's Sam Bradford. 417 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: Might be it. 418 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 4: Because Jameis Winston's been a bit of a disappointment, but 419 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 4: he had some decent years. I'd say more of a 420 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 4: disappointment for Jamis as the number one pick, but. 421 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: Was any the first member of the thirty thirty club, 422 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 2: which you don't want to be. Oh, you don't want 423 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: to be in that thirty thirty. 424 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 10: Yes. Yes. 425 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 6: Baseball doesn't really have this conversation because you don't know 426 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 6: anybody until it's like, all right, let's see if that 427 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 6: four hundred and fifty million dollars is worth it. That's 428 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 6: going to be tricky, But there aren't really busts or anything. 429 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 430 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: I mean when you think back and you go number 431 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: one pick in the draft, it's because the number one 432 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: pick normally doesn't go right into Major League Baseball. 433 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 6: We get ten of these dudes in the NFL and 434 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 6: the NBA. We get a million of these dudes a year, don't. 435 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 6: You don't even have to be the number one overall pick. 436 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: But we focus I think we focus on the number 437 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 2: one pick in hockey probably more than we do in baseball, 438 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 2: because it feels like those players are generational talent and 439 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: chances are they're going to be playing in the NHL 440 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: right away. 441 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 4: Yes, boy one that stands out two thousand and nine, 442 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 4: we covered him a lot, Steven Strassburg out of San 443 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 4: Diego State. He was supposed to be in this last 444 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 4: twenty years. He was the most before Skeens, the most 445 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 4: publicized pitcher going into the league. He had a good 446 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 4: career one thirteen and sixty two. He made three All 447 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 4: Star teams, never won a cy Young. 448 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: Oh he did win over one hundred games. 449 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, I got him well. 450 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 4: He pitched thirteen years, one hundred and thirteen wins. He 451 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 4: had a couple of good seasons with over fifteen wins 452 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 4: one thirteen and sixty two, three All Star peers. 453 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: I remember and I likened Stephen Strasburg to Jadavian Clowney 454 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 2: with the hype because I remember John Smoltz was talking 455 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 2: his first game he did in the minor leagues, Steven Strasberg. 456 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 2: I remember Smoltz was talking about they were had these 457 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: glowing reviews like he was the perfect pitcher. He was 458 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 2: the perfect pitcher. Jadevion Clowney, Oh my gosh, we've never 459 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: seen this before. When the mother Ship went out to 460 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 2: his pro day and there's no perfect player. There are 461 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: times when we look at somebody and you can't miss, well, 462 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 2: you can miss. We've seen that happen, and Steven Strasburg 463 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: was just like Mark Pryor. Mark Pryor was the perfect 464 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 2: pitcher now the Dodgers pitching coach. You had experts who 465 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: were looking at him in his form, everything about him, 466 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 2: it was great, he's going to be dominating. Well, he 467 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: wasn't overused with the Cubs with Carrie Wood and never 468 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: really reached that potential that people had for him. But 469 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 2: when it comes to number one pick in the draft 470 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 2: in baseball, I don't think that we even remember, like 471 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 2: that guy was a ninth round draft and you know 472 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 2: Albert Poohols, what was he thirteenth round draft pickers and 473 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: you know, we just don't think about it that way, 474 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 2: or it feels like you're giving away the future of 475 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: your team because maybe you missed on the number one 476 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 2: pick in the draft in football or in basketball, that 477 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: certainly is the feeling. Yes, Marvin, I don't. 478 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 5: Know much about hockey, but I do remember this name 479 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 5: when I was young, about him being. 480 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 8: The next guy, Eric Lindros. 481 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he was number one pick over and 482 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 5: they talked about him like crazy. 483 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: Well he had concussions and yeah, he wasn't able to 484 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: live up to the hype he was supposed to be, 485 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: like that's the new hockey player. He's big and he's fast, powerful. 486 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: Not quite l Mew, but that feeling of you know, wow, 487 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: he's different. Let's see John in Pennsylvania. 488 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 3: Hi John. Best and worst of the weekend. 489 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 10: Hi Dan, It's six one two twenty today. I'll start 490 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 10: with my best of the weekend. And I don't know 491 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 10: if you've seen this, but omegaball. I caught Omega ball. 492 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 10: It's fascinating. It's soccer played in a circle and it's 493 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 10: three teams every thirty three degrees on this circle, there's 494 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 10: a goal and you got fifteen guys going out there 495 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 10: for the ball. Not a big soccer fan, but this 496 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 10: was really cool. If you get a chance to catch 497 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 10: some Omega ball on the Mothership, it's it's it's neat. 498 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 10: It's a smaller circle than a regular soccer pitch. But 499 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 10: I don't know if you've seen it, maybe Polly has, 500 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 10: but very very very cool. My worst of the weekend. 501 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 10: As I was wrapping up the weekend last night, I 502 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 10: caught some of the Air Guitar Championship air jam off 503 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 10: and these guys are dressed up in costumes, some like 504 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 10: the Ultimate Warrior. There was a Freddie Mercury in red. 505 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 10: There was and they're Air guitaring and it's a train wreck. 506 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 10: It's I couldn't take my eyes off of it, of course, 507 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 10: but I just I got the chills, you know, those 508 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 10: embarrassment chills that you get when somebody does something they're 509 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 10: so stupid. 510 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you, John. I would say you 511 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 2: probably need to get a life, John, just say maybe 512 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 2: you need to maybe a stream, maybe stream something. Yeah, 513 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: a lot of things to stream, thank you. 514 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 4: I didn't see those events, but I did watch some 515 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 4: of the National Darts Championship this weekend, and the coverage. 516 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 4: Whatever you think of darts, the coverage is fantastic. They 517 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 4: know how to produce that show. It's the place is 518 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 4: going crazy. 519 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: Backroom guys went, Yeah, Dylan Ray Bad, Larry I think 520 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: came up. They went it was Madison Square Garden. They 521 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: went to the Darts Championship. Let's see Steven la Hi, Steve, 522 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: what's on your mind? 523 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 9: Hey? Now, DP, Hey, hey, I just want to give 524 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 9: you a complimentary, complimentary comp You guys are the Howard 525 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 9: Stern of sports talk radio. So that's one thing that's 526 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 9: a great comp By the way, another nickname, I got 527 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 9: a nickname for you, Black Jesus Michael and I also 528 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 9: wanted to ask you when Friday, you guys were you 529 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 9: were talking about kind of being broke, not for but broke, 530 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 9: not having enough money when you were young. What was 531 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 9: the nicest thing for the first night thing you bought 532 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 9: when you started making money? 533 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 3: Thank you, Steve. 534 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we weren't poor growing up. We just didn't There 535 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 2: was certain things we didn't have. We were limited. How's 536 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: that six kids and we had one and a half 537 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: bathrooms and having two sisters and you just did you 538 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: just dealt with it. But I feel bad if I 539 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: embarrassed my brothers and sisters by comments that I was making. 540 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: We just we didn't have things, that's all. But you 541 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: know we made us better workers. That's why we're all 542 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: pretty successful in what we do, you know, our different 543 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: walks of life. But no, we we just didn't have 544 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: that stocked refrigerator. And you know, you go to your 545 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: friend's house and all of a sudden there's like twinkies 546 00:29:53,920 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: there and ding dongs and you get chocolate milk and wonderbread. 547 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 2: Like there's things that stand out when you go to 548 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: somebody else's house and that you know that happened. But 549 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: I just remember one Christmas went down the street and 550 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: this family. You couldn't walk, You couldn't walk on the 551 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: floor because the entire floor was full of gifts and 552 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: we got three gifts at Christmas. And even then it 553 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: didn't you weren't necessarily getting what you wanted. And uh 554 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: it always socks, always, you know, your stocking stuffer was 555 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: full of socks and underwear and you're like, okay, or 556 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: gloves and you're like, all right, you know, but hey, 557 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: no boohoo made us stronger. 558 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 3: At the time, I was pissed, but uh, you know, 559 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 3: I learned. I learned to deal with it. 560 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 5: Yes, marm It's like, did you go to your friend's 561 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 5: house to see name brand cereal? 562 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 10: Oh? 563 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 5: Yes, like whoa, yeah, fruit loops. We've been eating fruitios. 564 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, you know that when there's soda in the 565 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: refrigerator and you're like, wait, can you just take that? 566 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you want to take a coke? If you 567 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 3: want one? 568 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 10: Damn? 569 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: What is this? 570 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 3: This exists? 571 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: And then you go home and then you say to 572 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: your mom, oh, I was over at Scott mckevitch's place 573 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: and his refrigerator is packed. Well, why don't you spend 574 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: more time over at Scott Mkevitch's. 575 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 3: Place, and I'd be like, okay, yes, you are more 576 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 3: reasonably asking for something like a can of soda. 577 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 5: We would see like the new Atari video cartridge at 578 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 5: someone's house was something that was far more expensive, and 579 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 5: we'd throw a temper tantament so we got that. 580 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: Oh no, we I remember the greatest Christmas I ever had. 581 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: I was playing with a gift and then my mom 582 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: came down and she said, oh, that's your brothers. So 583 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: I had to give up the best gift I ever had, 584 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: and it was my brother. It wasn't for you, it 585 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: wasn't for me. No, And I'm like, God, this is great, 586 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: and I think my mom mislabeled, and all of a sudden, 587 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, dang, this is awesome, and all of a 588 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: sudden she goes, oh, Danny, that's for Bill. 589 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 10: What what? 590 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 3: Once again? 591 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: It made me stronger, made me stronger, I'm stronger, all right. 592 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll talk some gambling and the 593 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: FBI or there's a there's an investigation, a federal investigation 594 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: into a member of the NBA's Detroit Pistons. 595 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 596 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine Am Eastern six am Pacific 597 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP. 598 00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: David Purdham covers gambling for ESPN and these story is 599 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:07,239 Speaker 2: Malik Beasley of the Pistons. There's an FBI probe with him. Well, 600 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: David joins us, Now, what exactly is Beasley accused of doing? 601 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 10: So? 602 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 11: Federal authorities are investigating him on allegations of gambling on 603 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 11: the NBA related to games and prop bets. That's according 604 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 11: to his attorney. So exactly the details of which games 605 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 11: of what went down with him are still unknown at 606 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 11: this time. But he is the third NBA player in 607 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 11: just the last eighteen months to be reportedly under investigation 608 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 11: by the FEDS for betting allegations, and NIA joints John 609 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 11: say Border and Terry Rochere. 610 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: Okay, this is different than the NBA investigating what happens 611 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: when there's a federal probe? How do they investigate as 612 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: opposed to what the NBA would do. 613 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 11: Well, this all started back again with the johns Porter thing, 614 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 11: and they subpoenaed some of the sports books for betting 615 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 11: records for individuals that they suspected may have been involved. 616 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 11: And so my working premise is that they probably had 617 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 11: those subpoena records, the betting records, went through and see 618 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 11: what some of the unusual betting activity on some of 619 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 11: these other games. So they're working through everything right now, 620 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 11: communicating with the sports books, the attorneys, and so forth 621 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 11: to see where it goes. 622 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 3: Okay, but give us a red flag. 623 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: Give us what happens when all of a sudden somebody goes, 624 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: wait a minute, something suspicious. 625 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 3: That's a great question. 626 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 11: And when bookmakers really are convinced that something is untoward 627 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 11: is going on is when they move the odds right. 628 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 11: So a prop bet maybe over under two and a 629 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 11: half for rebounds or whatever, and instead of moving you know, 630 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 11: up to four and a half to'll adjust the big 631 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 11: on if you want to bet the over, it may 632 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 11: be minus two hundred. When they bet just the odds, 633 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 11: and the betters don't stop betting it and just keep 634 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 11: betting it even though these odds have moved against them, 635 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 11: it is a major red flag. In flag, some bookmakers 636 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 11: will tell me they will do it intentionally, moving overly aggressive, 637 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 11: move these odds so crazy that nobody that was really 638 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 11: trying to bet it seriously would keep betting. And yet 639 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 11: people do keep betting it and then they know something's 640 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 11: going on. 641 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 2: How dangerous are prop bets since an individual can control 642 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: a lot of what his numbers are. 643 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 11: Yeah, certainly they are more easily to be manipulated than 644 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 11: a full game if you just have a player that's 645 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 11: over under on rebounds or three pointers made or points. 646 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 11: That's what happened with the Johntay border situation. There was 647 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 11: all these bets on unders on his statistics. Then he 648 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 11: had took himself out of the game within minutes and 649 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 11: so all the unders hit. So partly excuse me. Prop 650 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 11: bets definitely are a concern. There's a debate to be 651 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 11: had whether we should be offering in the regulated market 652 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 11: prop bets on all these individual players. 653 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: Well, I know that college took away the prop bets, 654 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: or you know, they took away prop bets on college athletes. 655 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 11: Correct some of the states that Vegas has not about. 656 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 11: I think there's about eighteen states that now prohibit individual 657 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 11: player props on college athletes. 658 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know that's tricky when you're a college 659 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 2: kid and you know what happens here. David I mentioned 660 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 2: this that these guys probably thinking nobody's going to notice this. 661 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 3: Hey, I'm gonna do this, nobody will notice. 662 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 2: Well, Vegas has to notice this, like they have, Like 663 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: it's imperative that they notice these things. And anybody out 664 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: there who thinks nobody is going to notice if I 665 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 2: do just this or this and I play for this team, 666 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: nobody follows, you know, University of Alabama, Birmingham, they do. 667 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 3: They have to. 668 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 11: You're right one hundred percent, and you'll hear people go 669 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 11: the sportsbooks are no. The sportsbooks are the ones that 670 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 11: lose when these bets are not on the up and up. 671 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 11: They're the ones that detect it. So you're absolutely right 672 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 11: there things. There's what's the saying, you know, two people 673 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 11: can keep a secret. If it gets past there, it's over. 674 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,479 Speaker 11: Greed starts to get involved. Hey, I made a little 675 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 11: money here from keeping it quiet. Let me tell my buddy, 676 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 11: he makes a little bit money. All of a sudden, 677 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 11: there's this flood of money coming in on these random 678 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 11: games that people are like, where is this coming from? 679 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 11: So it does to get detected. 680 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 3: NBA hasn't responded yet to Malik Beasley. That's correct. 681 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 11: They said they are cooperating with the federal investigation. 682 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again, David, it won't be 683 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 2: the last time I talked to you, that's sure. 684 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 3: David Purdham