1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Michael Very show is on the air. 3 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: Oh yes, even Ramon messing up the cross faith can't 4 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: ruin good Friday. 5 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: I heard that. 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: Yes, I did my ears very carefully, tuned to the 7 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: perfection we never seem to quite achieve. 8 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: It is open line Friday. Has your week flown or bloom? 9 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: What would you like to share with us? 10 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: Happy when. 11 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 4: Whendy wool, whenos. 12 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 5: She's the way he loves, a happy day or happy day? 13 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 5: Happy or happy day? 14 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: When those war. 15 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 6: Pitty wary, when those. 16 00:01:28,760 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 5: War sheel the way he loved. It's a happy day. 17 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 6: A happy day or a happy day. 18 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 7: Happy winter, those war, oh whity war, winder those war. 19 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: Three years away. 20 00:02:34,639 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 5: He need a lot happy day. 21 00:03:14,560 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 6: Heapy deed good happy deal, God, happy deal, happy day, 22 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 6: Oh happy they. 23 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 4: When those world oh waity war, when those wool threeas away, 24 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 4: he needed to uk me the hay day, Oh. 25 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 8: Good indeed, it is a happy day, a beautiful day outside, 26 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 8: a beautiful day to be alive, a beautiful day in America. 27 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: You'd like to be on the program seven one three 28 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: nine nine nine one thousand. Of course you can always 29 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: email me through the website Michael Berryshow dot com. And 30 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: now to get us started as we always do, courtesy 31 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: of the greatest executive producer in all the land, Chad Aconey. 32 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 9: Knakanishi, you will weaken with out of sugar. Sugar, what 33 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 9: a crunch? 34 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: Somehow pop it up on my screen a photo of 35 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: send him a buttertoes sen him buttertoes Man. I look 36 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: back now. 37 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: My grandmother lived in a little ramshackle trailer, but it 38 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: was the happiest place I've ever been in my life 39 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: because she was such a good cook. 40 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: Really an unbelievable scene. 41 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: You're in Houston, hundreds of people at risk of losing 42 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: their SNAP benefits lined. 43 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 3: Up for food. 44 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 10: Malagiata go has been a SNAP recipients for more than 45 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 10: three decades, been a Snap recipients for more than three decades. 46 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: More than three decades. I have depended on those benefits 47 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: since the nineteen nineties. 48 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: Are there some people who would go hungry if we 49 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: stopped buying every meal for them? 50 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? Is that a bad thing? 51 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: No, it's why you don't feed the animals at a safari. 52 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: They'll stop learning how to feed themselves. But Backel, there's children. 53 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: People need to stop having children. They cannot support. 54 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: Former Vice President Kamala Harris's sparking debate after saying she 55 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: believes the voting age should be lowered to sixteen. 56 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: I think we should produce voting age to sixteen. 57 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 11: Gen Z, there is about thirteen for twenty seven. They've 58 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 11: only known the climate crisis. They've coined the term climate 59 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 11: anxiety to describe fear of not only being able to 60 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 11: buy a home, but who fairly'll be wiped out by 61 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 11: extreame with it, but fear of having. 62 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: To climate change anxiety. 63 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: You know, when I was growing up, this was kind 64 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: of stuff that adults and especially men, would say, stop being. 65 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: Such a little sissy. What in the world are you doing? 66 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: We need more of that. 67 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: Things took a bad turn at the newly opened Bass 68 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: Pro Shops. 69 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: The Odessa Police Department was called to the store. 70 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: We're all at Vans Pro Shops, brought touches kicks. I 71 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: do love watching smalltown TV reports because they're not polished. 72 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: She's attempting to capture the collective sadness of man. 73 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: That's why we can't have nothing nice. Supposed to be 74 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: the time to celebrate the first basket Pro shop celebrate midnight. 75 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: It's getting a mass pro shop. But no, we can't 76 00:07:41,160 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: have nothing nice. Y'all messed it up with his. 77 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: Shoe three feet you've seen it. 78 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: You see it with his finger on the pulse. The 79 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: King Up team continues on The Michael Berry Show, Who 80 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: the Phone Lines? 81 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: We go seven one, three, one thousand, Willie Europe first, 82 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: be excellent. 83 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: That was tough to do. Go more to Mike, Michael. 84 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 12: Uh, yeah, as far as the week off on the 85 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 12: Downloe but finishing in you know, only good one. My 86 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 12: dad passed away a couple of weeks ago, ninety well, 87 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 12: we buried him on his birthday, would have been ninety 88 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 12: six years old. And it's lived a great life and 89 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 12: made a great legacy for Galveston and all his kids. 90 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: What was his name? 91 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 12: Carlos Bangs Gonzalez b a n gs. Gonzalez Bangs is 92 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 12: from the Samuel Bangs that started all the newspapers in 93 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 12: the Texas Gulf Coast way back and I'm named after 94 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 12: William Bangs. 95 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: But side notes, where was Samuel Bangs from? 96 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 12: I couldn't tell you Europe somewhere came here and did 97 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 12: he started papers on both sides of the border back 98 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 12: you know, and when there was when the world was 99 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 12: changing between Texas governed in Mexico governed in US. So 100 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 12: it was an interesting time. Started the Jalason paper. 101 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: And what did Carlos Gazalez do? 102 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 6: Man? 103 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: You name it? 104 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 12: I mean he was really a born engineered by by trade. 105 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 12: He was, I guess you could say the first class 106 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 12: worlder and did just I could show you some pictures. 107 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 12: In fact, I'll sent them to you. Just come home 108 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 12: top to bottom dirty, you know, after twelve hour shift 109 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 12: working all the ships. 110 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: Or wherever, and. 111 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 12: You dressed up, put on his Matador type outfit, you know, 112 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 12: and go singing and serenading people in restaurants and that 113 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 12: kind of thing. And he was very good at it. 114 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 12: In fact, he started me singing when I was five 115 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 12: years old, and that started my career. I mean, that's 116 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 12: what I do today. You have to feed my family. 117 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 12: And it was an honor to sing a song that 118 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 12: he taught me. Oh gosh, it's over fifty years ago 119 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 12: at his funeral with the Mariachis player. It was a 120 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 12: nice moment. The hard to get through. But Maga Carmela, and. 121 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: You say it, I sing it, yes, good for you? 122 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: How'd you feel? Like you did to do it. 123 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 12: I give myself a b you know, but it's it's 124 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 12: it was. 125 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: It was. 126 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 12: The first verses was almost non existent. But at the service, 127 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 12: you know, we had to sing songs on that reminds 128 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 12: me my dad a lot. Is Dan Fogelberg, the leader 129 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 12: of the band. Of course, that's it. You know, every 130 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 12: time I hear it, it gets me. But at his service, 131 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 12: I sang, why me, Lord Chris Chostopherson and and actually 132 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 12: the third verse I created a third verse of Spanish. 133 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 12: It was a translation from the first one and two. 134 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 12: And uh, my nephew Taylor Gonzalez accompanied me on the guitar. 135 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 12: It was, it was, it was really nice. 136 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 13: You couldn't that's not that's not it ramon, I assure you. 137 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 13: But why don't you sing along with it? Let's here 138 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 13: because I don't even know you spoke Spanish. 139 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: Oh man, I didn't see you like that. 140 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 10: Now, that's. 141 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: Well, good for you, my man, very very proud of 142 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: his uh of his grandson. Did he come out and 143 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: watch the lineup band play? 144 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 12: Oh you know, yeah, there's videos of him bencing and 145 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 12: getting all the young girls up on the the floor 146 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 12: and oh yeah, yeah, absolutely he was he was. He 147 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 12: was a suave guy, so just some pitchers. He just 148 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 12: kind of resembled Dean Martin a whole lot actually. 149 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: With bud uh Pat. You're on the Michael Berry Show. 150 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 14: Go ahead, Hey Michael Berry, good morning. Yeah, I'm gonna 151 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 14: go eat uh my weekly Mexican dinner with my friend 152 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 14: and our favorite local restaurant. 153 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: And where is that Flindora, Texas? And what is the 154 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: name of it? 155 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 14: El Carter and ile I'm gonna eat the same thing 156 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 14: on the menu always eat. We act like we go 157 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 14: in there and look at the menu so we can 158 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 14: eat up chips and salsa, and then we're ready to order. 159 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: And what do you order? 160 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 14: Tonicles al carbone with charlo beans and lieu of beans 161 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 14: and right in lieu of the refrides. 162 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: And do you get assert. 163 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 14: Now I'm so full after that, I can't do you. 164 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: Get kso with your chips or you just do chips 165 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: and red sauce? 166 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 14: I get the sauce, so just the regular sauce. 167 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: And who do you go with? 168 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 14: Wendy my child my son's childhood friend since high school. 169 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 14: He's thirty four and in the Navy, but he's been 170 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 14: friend with this boy since he was in high school, 171 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 14: and I'd either run him over there or go get 172 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 14: him and he'd be over here. 173 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: But who's gas, y'all? 174 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 14: Burn mine? 175 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 12: I go, I don't mind, you know what? 176 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: Okay? Do y'all get anything to drink? 177 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 14: And we go once a week? 178 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: Do y'all get anything to drink? We drink water? 179 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 14: Save the four dollars on the drink? 180 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: And what does the bill come to for the two 181 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: of y'all? 182 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 12: Uh? 183 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 10: Twenty five? 184 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 12: Ish? 185 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: Okay, sound like a good time. Enjoy Pat Chuck on 186 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 1: to Michael Berry, show what you got, sir. 187 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 10: Hey, Michael, you know you talk a lot about different 188 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 10: people's jobs in the world, work, ethic and all that, 189 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 10: And I just think the toughest job on the planet 190 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 10: far as I'm concerned, is that of my wife. 191 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 12: She is. 192 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 10: Such a help to me. I'm a pastor, and I 193 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 10: think the toughest job on the planet is the wife 194 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 10: of a pastor. 195 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: I would assume that's pretty tough, especially in a small town. 196 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: You're being watched at all times. You know, the wife 197 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: of fill in the blank does not get its due 198 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: for how difficult it is in various ways. But the 199 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: wife of a pastor, if it's done right, should be 200 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: itself a full time job, a full time ministry, and 201 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: a lot of time and effort. Because I'm a Jean 202 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: Spross who was our pastor, Bobby Spross's wife. She worked 203 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: as the number of hours he did, and she raised 204 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: the kids. That's a tough deal. 205 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: The church is it. 206 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 15: We are a free wheeled actress church. We're located in Tomball, Texas. 207 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 15: And uh my wife is just what's her name, chuck 208 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 15: real quick? Her name is Cheryl Wisacker. 209 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: Pastor's wives. 210 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: The Michael Berry Show is nwide. 211 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: What did I say? 212 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: I told Ramon that I would like to do if 213 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: he would please do a bump related to fishing or fish, 214 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: because I'm going to talk about fishing and. 215 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know what that was. I have no 216 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: idea what that was or where that came from. 217 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: Can we start this segment over and do something that 218 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: is a little more identifiable and a nicer song related 219 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: to fishing? I don't have one in mind, As I said, 220 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: if I did, I would have asked for it. 221 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: But could you just oh hell yeah no, that is redemption. 222 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: You have redeemed yourself. Yep? Is this nitty gritty oh yeah, 223 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: lazy yelling moon coming up to night, shining through the tree. 224 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, crickets singing and lighting bug. 225 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 3: If floating on him. Breeze Betty riding. 226 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 11: Across the field of the Princk turns back. 227 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: By the old husband and wife were driving around. He's 228 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: off work today and this is on No, no, turn 229 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: it back up. 230 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: He's getting all fired up over this song because he's 231 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: on testosterone now. 232 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: And he reaches over and puts his hand on her legs. 233 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: Are you serious? 234 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: We're on our way to our kids reciting the start. 235 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: It's a morning on a weekday, and he goes, you 236 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: used to it on the morning on all week they remember, 237 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: were Dayton? 238 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was twenty five years ago. Earl, 239 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: what are you doing? 240 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 3: Stop? 241 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 2: But she kind of likes it. She kind of likes 242 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: it feels sexy. And he's all he's all been out 243 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: of shape now. She's thinking it's sacrilege because in fifteen minutes. 244 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: We'll be watching our kid up on stage at the school. 245 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: Well that's how he got here. Do you ever think 246 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: about that? That's wholesome. It's wholesome radio right here. But 247 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: the reason for the fishing story is what I wanted 248 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 2: to tell you, and let me give you the history 249 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 2: of this story. 250 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: So years ago when I came to Houston, it was 251 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: probably an orange too, I just don't remember it. I 252 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: wasn't old enough. 253 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: I started noticing everywhere they had there was a bumper 254 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: sticker you see on guy's trucks, CCA Texas. I didn't 255 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: know what CCA Texas was, but I noticed that over 256 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: the years, if I ever met somebody that had a 257 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: CCA Texas sticker on their truck, it was always a 258 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 2: good person. There are just certain things you know, that's 259 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: gonna be a good guy, that's gonna be a good, honest, honorable. 260 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: Decent person. 261 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: Well, the first big conversation I ever had about CCA 262 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: Texas was with Levi good And and Levi was a member. 263 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: I think he was cooking for one of the events 264 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: or speaking at well, I don't know what it was, 265 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 2: but at any point I asked him about the organization. 266 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: Oh, it's a great organization. 267 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 2: It's for the the recreational fishermen, and it's just a 268 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 2: great guy. It's a it's a great guy thing. It's 269 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 2: a great I guess there's women too, but they're they're 270 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: just it's a great organization and. 271 00:18:58,840 --> 00:18:59,239 Speaker 3: He uh. 272 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: And over the years, I've come to find out it's 273 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: like Vaccaro's if somebody says, you know, if some if 274 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 2: a name comes up and somebody will say, oh, yeah, 275 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: he's a Vocaro, you just you know those guys are 276 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 2: gonna be good guys. You know you're gonna like them. 277 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: A rodeo, if somebody's involved with the rodeo, you know 278 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna have a lot in common with 279 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: those people. 280 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna like what they do. 281 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: They're family oriented, they're gonna take care of their customers 282 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: and their employees. So years ago I thought, you know, 283 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 2: I'd love to be sponsored by CCA Texas. So I 284 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: think somebody dropped a line in the world. I never 285 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 2: heard back from it. And then about a year ago 286 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: I heard from Robbie Buyers over there and he started 287 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 2: with big fan of the show, which you like to hear, right, 288 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: It's nice to hear people. 289 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 10: You know. 290 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: Sometimes when I'm out, a husband or wife listens to 291 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: the show and their spouse will say, I think they 292 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: do it because they're nervous. 293 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: That's what my wife doing. 294 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 2: They'll say, I don't really know who you are, and 295 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: I don't listen to your show, but my wife loves you, 296 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: or same thing, but my husband loves you. And I 297 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: don't know why they say that, or maybe they don't 298 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: realize that's a knife in the back because not being 299 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: known to someone it means that you're not as big 300 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: a deal as you thought you were. But being known 301 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: to someone, and that the fact that people that you 302 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 2: will listen to what I'm saying every day, especially because 303 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: I know sometimes I'm saying things to irritate you, or 304 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: sometimes I'm preaching or lecturing you or hectoring you, and 305 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 2: oftentimes you're going to disagree with me, and yet yet 306 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: you hang around, which is pretty cool. So he said, hey, 307 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: we want to sponsor your show, We want to be 308 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: partners with you. Yeah, you don't have to ask me twice. 309 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: So anyway, it will start next year because that's when 310 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 2: their budget process. They got a whole budget process. But 311 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: the timing works out where by the time they start, 312 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 2: I think they will officially become show sponsors, maybe in March. 313 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: But they've got this big tournament called the Star Tournament 314 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: that starts in May. And they said, uh, you know, 315 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: that's that's what we really we want folks to become members, 316 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 2: want them to become active. 317 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: We want them to support what we do. 318 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: Be part of a Texas grassroots tradition ramon that works 319 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 2: to ensure the health and conservation of our marine resources 320 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: and anglers access to them. That's pretty cool, right, that's 321 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 2: the kind of stuff we stand for. Yeah, so I 322 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 2: was honored. So they won't officially be show sponsors. Can 323 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: we give them like an ex officio status romo. But 324 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 2: here's what I'm gonna ask you to do, not just 325 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: as a favorite to me, but because I think you 326 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 2: will enjoy it. Their website is CCA Texas dot org. 327 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 10: Go there. 328 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 2: They have this CCA Texas Star Tournament. I think that's 329 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 2: where they I think that's their big their big membership push. 330 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 2: Whatever you do, you can meet good people. I've met 331 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: a lot of good people that are CCA Texas members. 332 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: But I also want to say thank you to the 333 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: executive board over there, the chairman, Robbie Buyers, the people 334 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: who like what we do, because there will invariably be 335 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: somebody in the organization that'll bitch about it, because that 336 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: always happens, and they. 337 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: Have decided no, no, no. 338 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: The profit and loss side of the legend a lot 339 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: of people can say, well, even if we get ninety 340 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: nine people because of you, but then one complains, we're 341 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: gonna let the complainer went out, but they decided not 342 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: to do that, and I think that's cool. 343 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: So we are honored. This is a perfect partnership. 344 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: It is so good that our business has developed to 345 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: the point that our show sponsors are people that we like, 346 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: we support, we enjoy talking about them. We'd do it 347 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 2: for free, but don't tell anybody, because you know, people 348 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: got to get paid. Ramona's got high expenses and all 349 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: of that sort of stuff. But if you would go 350 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: to CCA Texas dot org and become a member, I'd 351 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: consider that a solid. If you become a member and 352 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: your membership email you get, you forward that to me 353 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: with the name of your business and what you do 354 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 2: in your contact you know, your phone. 355 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: Number, whatever, I'll read those on there. 356 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 12: I'll do that. 357 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: I'll do that solid. So you get a free mention. 358 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: And if you're already a member, if you would send 359 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: Robbie Byers over there a note saying, hey, thanks for 360 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: supporting to Michael Berry show. 361 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: I like the show. The show stays on the air. 362 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: Because of sponsors, so welcome to the show sponsor family, 363 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 2: CCA Texas dot org. 364 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: And so I've just put that on the Michael Barris 365 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: Michael Berry's Show. 366 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: If the spirit moves you, rob an email to Robbie 367 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: Byers or anyone else at CCA Texas that you know 368 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: and thank them for joining our show. We are delighted 369 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: to have them. Got an email this morning from Jeff 370 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 2: Keene Big Jeff. He played O line over at the 371 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 2: University of Houston, so we call him Big j It's 372 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 2: for good reason. He's a big boy. 373 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: And he says one you know, we hired Daniel Dean 374 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: to regrade and do the whole thing. Let's see if 375 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: I can find the actual words he use. Here we go, Treli. 376 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: Willim Frame just hired Daniel Dean Land Clearing for a 377 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: two hundred, twenty thousand dollars grading, paving and draining project 378 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 2: at our location. Thanks to the efforts of our friend 379 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: and fellow Barry Brigadier Daniel Dean, in a few weeks, 380 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 2: my teammates in the back will have a less bumpy 381 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: and muddy existence. We are delighted to know that our 382 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 2: project will be done flawlessly and by someone who gives 383 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 2: back to our community. Thank you for attracting so many 384 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: best in class service providers. 385 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: I love that. 386 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: I love it when our show sponsors use our fellow 387 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 2: show sponsors. I love it when you use our show sponsors. 388 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 2: It delights me when you email me and say, hey, 389 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 2: who is your guy who does X? And I can 390 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: forward you by email to usually to the person who 391 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: runs the operation to make sure that you get the 392 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: absolute best service, which is what I want you to 393 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: get every single time. Today marks the sixty third birthday 394 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: a very dear friend of mine, Chancellor McLain. Chancellor McLain, 395 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 2: who has contributed so much to the show over the years, 396 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 2: through so many different. 397 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: Characters, songs, writing, and. 398 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: Eventually became a show sponsor. Who would have guessed my 399 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 2: dad's seventy fifth birthday. He set out with my dad 400 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: for about four hours and interviewed him because I didn't 401 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: know how long we'd have with my dad has ten years. 402 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: I never would have guessed we'd get another ten years. 403 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 2: And they went through my dad's entire life. My mom 404 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 2: and dad pulled together every photo they had of my dad, 405 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: and he weaves all of that in the interview into 406 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: into a beautiful biopic beautiful little biography. Why should biographies 407 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 2: only be for famous people. My dad's life is meaningful, 408 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: it's important. There are lessons to be learned from it. 409 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: And so every year on his birthday we get together 410 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: and we watched that movie again, and I've sent it, 411 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 2: of course to all the family members, and I said, 412 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: you know, a chance you got a business here. 413 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: This is a This is a real business. People want this. 414 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: What is it where? You know? 415 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: People spend all this money on a headstone to put 416 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: a piece of rock out in a cemetery. But this 417 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: is this is a way to memorialize, to remember, and 418 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: you know, for the whenever my dad passes, which we 419 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: all will, I'll be able to go back and watch 420 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: him and see him talk and see his mannerisms and 421 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: hear his mannerisms, and hear him talking about his life 422 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: and my life and being my father and his work 423 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: and all those stories I heard as a kid. Now 424 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: we've got him down on tape and in a very 425 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: pleasant form of storytelling through film. Yeah, we've got a 426 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 2: real business. And slowly but surely that became ninety nine 427 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: percent of his business. In fact, he does it now 428 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 2: on a on a grand scale as well. For cities, 429 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: for businesses telling their story but using the same heritage 430 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 2: film mindset, and he has built a team of people 431 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 2: that include his honor, his son, and his wife in there. 432 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: It's been a gorgeous thing to watch, a glorious thing 433 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: to watch. 434 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: So happy sixty third birthday to my good friend Chancellor 435 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: McLean and I am reminded of the first the first 436 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: thing he ever did that aired on radio. 437 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: It was not on our show. 438 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: It was actually on six' ten But john And lance 439 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: at the, time and it was A Matt bullard. 440 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: Tribute. Yeah Remember Matt bullard played for The. Rockets here 441 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: it is. 442 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 3: Every. 443 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: Night you know what it's Not we're not gonna do 444 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: it justice for more to play it in the next. 445 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: Segment Matt bullard was really tall and slight of build 446 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: player for The, rockets and he was tall enough to 447 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 2: play low, post but what he wanted to do was 448 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 2: spot up jack. Threes he's a really good three point, 449 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: shooter kind of Like Sam. Perkins he didn't want to 450 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: get down there and bang around with those big. 451 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: Boys wasn't his. Fault he was. 452 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: Tall and it's a tribute To Matt bullard in the 453 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: same way that he in the same way That chance 454 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 2: made a tribute to the third string quarterback for The 455 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: university For Houston texans at the, time who we ended 456 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: up coaching. 457 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: Against it's kind of, funny small. 458 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: World but he was just a listener and he would 459 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 2: he would call in To John granado And lynzerlines show 460 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 2: on six' ten in the morning, sports radio and then 461 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: eventually they offered him a position to come in and 462 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: work for, the show and eventually they would all go 463 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: over to a STATION called kagal and he would be 464 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: the station the, program director and eventually he would. Get 465 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: fired he tells the story BETTER than. I do he 466 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: would get fired for not being willing to do whatever 467 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: they told him. To do chance is not a great. 468 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: Order taker but that was the best thing, ever happened 469 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: because then he started his business and the rest. Is 470 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: history