1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: production of My Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Nol. They called 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our superproducer Alexis 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. 8 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: You are here and that makes this the stuff they 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: don't want you to know. It is the top of 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: the week and we are going global with some strange news. 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Of course, ever since we started this weekly segment, things 12 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: have only become stranger, curiouser, and curious er. Uh. This week, 13 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: let's see, we're going to Utah, We're going to Uh, 14 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: We're going a little international with an ongoing and ongoing 15 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: to bacle related to Brazil, and we are going on 16 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: social media as well. But maybe we start with a 17 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: p s A A little bit of a stuff they 18 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: don't want you to know, Steve Brule Style for your Health. Yes, 19 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: sweetberry wine check it out. Uh so well, first of all, 20 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: if your flight was delayed this morning, apologies everyone do that. 21 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: F A A has some mornings ahead. Yeah, yeah, it was. 22 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: It was the f a a's notice to air missions 23 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: system and it went out and it caused massive delays globally. 24 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: That's the thing that you know, let's pilots fly and 25 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: land safely to all the things that they need to do. 26 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: So there was whispers of like, maybe it was an 27 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: attack and maybe it wasn't. I think it wasn't right, 28 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: it was just like a good old fashioned out or 29 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: internal screw up. Well, it's uh, it's something that's on 30 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: people's minds, right because electronic attacks, especially on legacy systems, 31 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: are only going to become increasingly common. We had some 32 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: had some folks right in uh, particularly Eli shout out 33 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: to you asking whether or not this was a Russian attack, 34 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: and if so, would Uncle Sam say anything about it? Honestly, 35 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: if there's hard proof, someone probably would have said something. Right, 36 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: That's that's the nature of the context. Now. But we 37 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: are looking at a possible nationwide air grounding, which is 38 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: very very rare. Well it was, Yeah, it was grounded 39 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: for a bit this morning as we were. Yeah, but 40 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: it could occur again if that's if that particular system 41 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: is targeted, let's say, But we don't have enough information 42 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: yet because it just happened, and I don't even know 43 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: if anybody would be out there yelling about it yet, 44 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: you know, they're like, well, we need to investigate, and 45 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: then it would be oh yeah, it was definitely Iraq. Again, 46 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: we need to go back now. I'm just joking. Hopefully 47 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. Iraq famously hate planes, right, um, so okay, 48 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: but this this is a the real p s A 49 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: for today. If you were on one of those flights, 50 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: maybe recently, and uh, you ended up landing, and then 51 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: sometime later that week after you arrived wherever you live, 52 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: and you had a respiratory infection, and you're like, okay, 53 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: let's test for COVID. Oh wait, it's not covid. Let's 54 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: test for flu. Oh it's not flu. Let's test what 55 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: else can we test for? What could it be? Well, 56 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: there might be something that you're dealing with, depending on 57 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: where you visited within the United States, and it's a 58 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: it's a weird thing. It's something that I was unaware 59 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: of until I really started looking into this. But it 60 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: could be a fungal infection within your lungs. It's not likely. Look, 61 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: we're not going to be the web Md of podcasts 62 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: here and make you think any case, any little cough 63 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: you got is a fungal infection. But web Md, it's 64 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: cancer exactly. But this is just a kind of a warning. 65 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: I guess everybody. It's a possibility. Uh. And it's a 66 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: type of infection that, at least according to a couple 67 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: of recent I guess their stories more like announcements. Um, 68 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: it's it's an infection that may go misdiagnosed or undiagnosed 69 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: for a while. So the first thing you need to 70 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: know is that if you are experiencing one of these infections, 71 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: it's the kind of thing that you've got a persistent 72 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: cough and it just goes on and on and on. 73 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: It won't go away. And we're not talking about for 74 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: a week. We're talking about for weeks, maybe even months. Um. 75 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: That's when you probably would realize, oh, there's something else 76 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: going on here. UM. And that's when you should at 77 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: least think about talking to your doctor or shaman or 78 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: whoever you use for medical purpose, says uh, talk to 79 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: that person about a fungal infection. Hopefully a doctor. Okay, 80 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: so so let's jump into this story. The title is uh, 81 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: fun guy or fungi that caused serious lung infections are 82 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: now found throughout the US. Doctors should be on the 83 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: lookout for the organisms. Researchers say, it's coming to us 84 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: from Science News. Uh, you know who tells that they 85 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: are independent journalism. Since one, this is speaking about three 86 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: specific types of fungus that can cause infection within the 87 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: human lawng not that exciting. But the big the big 88 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: deal here is the that the fun guy that exists 89 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: within the soil in certain regions of the United States. 90 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: For some of them, we're talking about just the southeastern 91 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: United States, so kind of the coast of California, going 92 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: down into Texas. What's the what's the handle of Texas 93 00:05:52,839 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: called the Little Peninsula thing Florida. It's both Texas in 94 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: hip hop because there we go goes on down to 95 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: the third coast and in that area, in the soil, 96 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: at least along that coastal region there there's this thing 97 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: that's a lot of fun to say, you guys, here 98 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: we go, we're all going to learn this together. Um, 99 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: it's cocxid Dioides coxidioida, cocxidioides. Yes, it's a type of 100 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: fungi that can be infectious for the lungs of a human. 101 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: It's in the soil. So if you're out there working 102 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: on the soil and you're not covering your face and 103 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: you're not protecting yourself the way you know many of 104 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: us do now to protect ourselves against COVID or whatever 105 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: other respiratory disease, you can get this stuff in your 106 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: lungs and it can be a horrible experience. Um. It 107 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: is not always deadly, but it can be deadly because 108 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: it can spread to the point where it um there's 109 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: no real operation there. You know, there are ways to 110 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: treat these kinds of infections, but they aren't. It's not 111 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: like you can just take regular antibiotics and get rid 112 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: of this stuff. So these are like airborne spores essentially, 113 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: or yeah, it's it's that's the way they get into 114 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: your lungs, right. Uh, the spores are are released as 115 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: you're working soil. Think about it that way. As those 116 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: particles are being released goes into your lungs. Then it 117 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: just starts to uh what do they call I watched 118 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: a couple of really dry medical videos on YouTube that 119 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: are meant to educate, you know, students who are actually 120 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: learning this stuff and then they're gonna take tests and 121 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: then diagnose people. Um. But yeah, it's uh, you can 122 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: you can see slides of this type of fungus and 123 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: how it creates these really interesting sphere sphericals or spherals 124 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: that have a bunch of these tiny little it's they're 125 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: not the spores, but their spores sites. I think that's 126 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: how you'd say it. They're inside that thing and then 127 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: they burst open with more of these things than they create. 128 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: The spherals. They burst open and you just see how 129 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: the infection spreads and super creepy off and it can 130 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: really wreak havoc on your lungs. It's kind of like 131 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: it's the same mechanism for for delivery as in the 132 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: game series of The Last of us Um. You'll see 133 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: the actual spores floating around and you know that you're 134 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: in a bad area when you see the little guys 135 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: kind of like floating around like dandelion dust. And if 136 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: if you're in an area where you with human eyes 137 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: can literally see spores of any sort, folks, G T 138 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: f O. Yes, get out to quote Jordan Peel, but 139 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: now I have I have a question. Your two uh 140 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: is part of the problem here that a lot of 141 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: the initial symptoms could be so easily confused with other 142 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: more familiar things right special kind of time. Absolutely was 143 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: watching a video earlier and a woman who experienced histoplasmosis. 144 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: I think it's how you would say it's histoplasma, which 145 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: is common in the dirt. If you imagine a map 146 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: of the United States and you kind of look at 147 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: Ohio um and then kind of make a big circle 148 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: in the center of the United States there and kind 149 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: of move it down again towards Texas and out towards 150 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: like d C, New York, and are in that area. 151 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: That whole area, the soil there has the potential to 152 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: carry histoplasma. It's often found in dirt that has constant 153 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: bird droppings within it and or bat droppings look kind 154 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: of gross, but like if you've got she this person 155 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: in particularly watch a video and she bought property that 156 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: used to be a turkey farm and it was just 157 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: within the soil, and as she reh she got some 158 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: work done on her house, on her back garden, and 159 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: that's how she ended up getting We also know that 160 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: bird and bat droppings are are used as fertilizer in 161 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: a lot of areas and those are really though, that's 162 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: that that would be really fertile soil, so that would 163 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: not be uncommon, you know, for that stuff to be 164 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: mixed in, you know, with the agriculturally tilled soil. Mm hmm. 165 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: And and within that video, she states her symptom that 166 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: she experienced for several months, okay, so not just for 167 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: a little bit. And they were very similar, as you said, 168 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: been to other upper respiratory infections. Uh A cough that 169 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: wouldn't go away, pretty constant headache, low grade fever, so 170 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: not like one oh two or something, but we're talking 171 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: around maybe a hundred constant fatigue, wheezing, and shortness of breath. 172 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, guys, but that sounds 173 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: an awful lot like symptoms of COVID nineteen, which, by 174 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: the way, I'm almost not positive anymore, guys. I get 175 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: it once every January. We're gonna just keep doing this. 176 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: That's just gonna be the new way, it seems. But 177 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: I mean what I was was getting out earlier too, 178 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: and I think then you you had a similar perspective. 179 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: Is at a time now where it's like anything remotely 180 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: resembling COVID is gonna be the suspicion will be that 181 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: it's COVID first and foremost. You know, we're in this 182 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: what is it like a like a try over it 183 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: kind of pandemic right now or I tri damic or whatever, 184 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: where the rs V is a is a thing that 185 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: has is much more common now and it has very 186 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: similar symptoms to COVID. So let's just throw in a 187 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: weird fungus in there in the mix. And this is 188 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: like some Doctor House m d type stuff. To even 189 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: discover this was what was going on. I want to 190 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: know more about, you know, the detective work that went 191 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: into figuring this out. Agreed, that's like the plot twist 192 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: and the third act of the House episode, you know. 193 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: He he curmudgeing ly tells someone that you don't have 194 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: to worry about the flu. Oh no, you're sick, but 195 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: you're sick with the fungus. And we talked in the 196 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: past about how how amazing fungus is as a life form. 197 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: It um it's one of the most successful and most 198 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: likely candidates for extra terrestrial life if you go beyond 199 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: microbes and bacteria. Uh, and it's easy to forget, you 200 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: know how how amazing this stuff is at getting into places, 201 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: including the human body. And with that, you know, no, 202 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: I think you asked one of the million dollar questions here, 203 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: which is, yeah, how did they how did they find it? 204 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: Because looking at some of the excellent sources, uh, you 205 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: point us to here, Matt, these things were known entities. 206 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: These are not surprising new life forms. But there's been 207 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: some kind of sea change or paradigm shift that helps 208 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: medical experts redefine the problem and the territory. Frankly, if 209 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: we're speaking of it as a living thing, well, yeah, 210 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: so here's the major problem. If you're going to diagnose this, 211 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: often you have to take a look at somebody's selves, 212 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: like get a sample and actually look at it and 213 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: see them. You have to see those ferals or I 214 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: was talking about the you have to identify the fun guy, um, 215 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: and often medical professionals. By the way, you are a 216 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: medical professional, and I'm completely wrong here. Please call me out. 217 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: If you have better information, please call in or write 218 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: to us. UM. But my understanding is that there were 219 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: distribution maps that were generated in the nineteen fifties. There's 220 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: one in particular that I think points to nineteen five 221 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: when there was a pretty large scale study and maps 222 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: were drawn to show the distribution of these soils containing 223 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: these fun guy. And so if you are a medical 224 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: professional like a GP who's constantly seeing people in let's 225 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: say in Georgia, you may not even think about looking 226 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: for these types of fun guy within a patient's respiratory 227 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: system because you don't exist within the areas where that 228 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: fungi should exist within the soil, right, you would not, 229 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: at least you wouldn't do it unless it was, you know, 230 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: a special case. You wouldn't immediately check for it. And 231 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: the problem now is that those older distribution maps don't 232 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: properly represent where the soil exists where the infections are 233 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: occurring at a higher rate. And the other problem is 234 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: that we we science is unsure whether or not those 235 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: distribution maps, the newer ones that show in this case 236 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: histoplasmosis cases as being all hold across the board where 237 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: humans live in great quantities. Um is that because people 238 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: are traveling to areas where histoplasmosis is more likely and 239 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: then coming back home and then they have it there 240 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: and that's where the case is identified. Let's say traveling 241 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: from Ohio to Alabama. Is when when that person gets 242 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: back to Alabama and they get a case. Is it 243 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: known by the medical professional, if it was if that 244 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: person picked it up in Ohio. UM. There's lots of 245 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: questions here, basically, but the headline is that these cases 246 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: are happening across the board now within the United States, 247 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: of multiple different fungal infections and the Yeah, and I 248 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: love that you're outlining some of the questions that g 249 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: is to look at this. The travel thing makes a 250 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: lot of sense. You mentioned at the top that there 251 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: are three big, three big types of fungus, right, types 252 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: of fungal infections that are being reconsidered in terms of infection. Uh. 253 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: In at least one case, it looks like we can 254 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: trace human to human infection for blasto micosis, because if 255 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: you look at the updated maps, you see that the 256 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: rates tend to be around heavily populated areas of the US. 257 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: But then fungi or fungi are incredibly diverse, so one 258 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: explanation probably doesn't apply to every single case. Was it 259 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: always this way and people just have better diagnostic tools now? 260 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean, are the answers there is there a way 261 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: to prevent infection? I think that's what a lot of 262 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: people are wondering, right, Yeah, and it's something we're kind 263 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: of used to now. And I'm sad to say to guys, Uh, 264 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: if you're working outside and soil that has this stuff 265 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: in it, or may have this stuff in it, then 266 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: you wear a mask, a surgical mask, one of those 267 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: respiratory masks that we're all now used to wearing. Uh, 268 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: not all of us. I'm not. I'm still not used 269 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: to it. I love it. I think a lot of 270 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: people look better with two thirds of their face covered up. 271 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: That That's what makes me pro mask. Actually, I think 272 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: I look way better with a mask on. I'm like, 273 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: I got so spoiled by not having to see stranger's mouths, 274 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? No, but no, Just the 275 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: whole point is it could be a problem if you 276 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: are experiencing a longer than usual period where you're going 277 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: through this coffee you just can't get rid of. It's 278 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: something to think about because it could be, you know, 279 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: a thousand other things. It could be you know, you're 280 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: developing asthma at a later stage in your life, which 281 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: is a possibility. Family members that have gone through that. 282 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,239 Speaker 1: There's all kinds of things could be going on. Uh, 283 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: that's why we always say, consult with a doctor, somebody 284 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: who not only watched those videos that I just went 285 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: through today, but did it for years of their life 286 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: and then sat through I don't even know how many 287 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: years of a professor at the front of a room 288 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: describing these things and looking through slides. Go talk to 289 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: one of those people. Yeah, they're pretty cool, and just 290 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: make sure they are armed with all the information about you, 291 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: like where did you travel, how long have you been 292 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: experiencing it. Just be open with them and hopefully if 293 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: you've got one of these infections, you can get rid 294 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: of it lickety split. Oh and last thing, Noel, you 295 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: already kind of spoiled this a little bit, but I'm 296 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: not mad at you because you were right on with 297 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: it as this episode comes out. Last night, the first 298 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: episode of the Last of Us premiered on HBO, and uh, 299 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, as a time traveler, I 300 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: just got done watching it and I'm super excited about it. 301 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: Video game adaptations typically aren't the best, but this is 302 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: the guy that did Chernobyl Craig mazin Um a really 303 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: really talented creator and showrunners. So which is you know 304 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: that those This is definitely one of those games. It's like, 305 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, uh, plot heavily plot driven. So I'm interested 306 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: to see if they change some things up to make 307 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: it kind of a little more interesting to folks who 308 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: have played all the games. I hope they do, but 309 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: I'm very excited about them. I think they spend some 310 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: time in the pre infection world. But like as you said, uh, 311 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: no spoilers. I think we all love the game and 312 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: don't be the last of us to tune into this show. Yeah, 313 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: here are some ads and we have returned. This is 314 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: a story that we're gonna We're gonna paint it as 315 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: a bit of a miss, which it technically still is. Uh, 316 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: and then we're going to go with a likely answer. 317 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: But fellow conspiracy realist, we want to hear your thoughts. Now. 318 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: A lot of our fellow listeners have hit us up 319 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: on Facebook here's where it gets crazy, on Instagram, on Twitter, uh, 320 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: to ask us about something that's been in the news. 321 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: You see for a little while now. For a number 322 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: of years, the strange and Tenna rigs have been popping 323 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: up in Utah in kind of inhospitable areas close to 324 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, but not the kind of place where 325 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: you would just take a walk for fun. And before 326 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: we start out with this, Matt Noll, have you all 327 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: visited Utah? Uh? Yeah, I know, quick layover when a 328 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: flight was canceled or something. And I just think I 329 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: mentioned before flying into Salt Lake City over that part 330 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 1: of the country remarkable to behold. It really looks like 331 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: another planet, I don't think so. Okay, yeah, yeah, I 332 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: have flown over it. Yes, yeah, which is why people 333 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: in the U s sometimes called that part of the 334 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: world flyover country. All those liberal elitists in there and 335 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: their bubbles ignoring the flyovers get these coastalities. Yeah, so, 336 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: which is a real thing. Coastal elites are things. We've 337 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: had to deal with them on the show before. But 338 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: uh it Utah, which is as as you guys said, 339 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: a beautiful picturesque landscape. You'll you'll see that there are 340 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: some cultural aspects that are relatively unique in comparison to 341 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: the other forty nine states of the US. Utah is 342 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: the seat the headquarters of the Church of Latter day 343 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: Saints Jesus Christ Church of Latter day Saint, commonly called 344 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: the Mormons by people outside of that belief system, and 345 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: sometimes that becomes a stereotype for Utah, and if you 346 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: ever visit the area, you will definitely see the cultural 347 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: stamp of that belief system. And it's not, you know, 348 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily bad or anything. It's not like you 349 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: have to dress a certain way when you are at 350 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: the Salt Lake City Airport or anything like that. But 351 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: people have historically kept you talk, kind of a world apart, 352 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: you know. Uh. And interestingly enough to going back to 353 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: the idea of fungal infection, Matt, at least one of 354 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: those fungal infection maps shows that Utah is one of 355 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: the places that doesn't have a particular fungal infection wheels 356 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: within wheels. So let's say you're in Salt Lakes today. 357 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: Let's say you're an old brown flight out delayed, and 358 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: you say, I'm gonna go explore outside and go round outside. 359 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: Maybe you rent a car, maybe go on a hike. 360 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: You're out in some of those beautiful mountains, and then 361 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: you see a pretty serious antenna attached to what looks 362 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: to be a solar panel, all rigged up to black 363 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: box of electronics. What's that about? I say to myself, 364 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: what's that about? You say to yourself. Uh, for a 365 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: while people have been wondering the same thing, and the 366 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: news really picked up in January. Uh, we we saw 367 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: a couple of different really enticing but unsupported pieces of speculation. 368 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: You know, fans of Red Dawn might say, is this 369 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: a way for spies to communicate? Are these you know, 370 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: mini number stations which would be cool? But they're not, Yeah, 371 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: because they're just bolted to the ground right or to 372 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: the earth right, and unlike electricity substation, there not protected 373 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 1: by a chain link fence or anything. They don't have 374 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: a chain link fence system to a tiny not happening, 375 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: a tiny, little shin high chain link fence. Uh. They 376 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: also they're also not authorized, right they're using solar panels, 377 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: which they're typically in the US. You're going to have 378 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: some sort of legal process you have to get involved 379 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: with right to have alternative energy like that. I mean, 380 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: let's not forget that there are laws in different parts 381 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: of this country that don't allow people to collect rainwater. 382 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: So these solar panels are kind of gutty a style. 383 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: They're off the grid, and people are still trying to 384 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: figure out who built these and why the number station 385 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: thing by the way, we couldn't find that didn't seem 386 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: to hold any sand or solar power in this case. 387 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: But we do have a little bit of an answer, 388 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: and it's an answer that ties into some stuff. Um 389 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: it ties into things we wouldn't expect. Something we've been 390 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: talking about a lot on the on the show recently 391 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: crypto what if? Yeah? What if? What if these antenna 392 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: and they're accoutremal are tied in some way to a cryptocurrency, 393 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: like they're mining or something. Yeah, okay, kind of like yeah, 394 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: well right, but those things that they exist in little 395 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: they can't exist in mobile units like that. Like I 396 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: heard a story in NPR about the first house sold 397 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: with the crypto mining station built in, and it had 398 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: to do with a currency that involved like these drone 399 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: things that were kind of like all space throughout a 400 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: certain area and they could communicate with one another and 401 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: then relay the It was specifically my in a particular 402 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: type of coin that I'm now forgetting that was spearheaded 403 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: by the guy that was selling the house and doing 404 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: the NPR the subject of the NPRPS. But you distinctly 405 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: remember that this was sort of a new thing where 406 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: every time somebody uses something it minds a little bit 407 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: of quiz. It's sort of like that, Ben, I'm really 408 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: done not doing any job of describing it, but that's 409 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: sort of really rung my bell when you said that 410 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: you nailed it, nailed it. This. Uh, this appears to 411 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: be a result of something called Helium. The Helium network, 412 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: is that's it? Yeah? Yeah, perfect, well done man. Yeah. 413 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: The Helium network was started in twenty thirteen. And the 414 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: ideas you build a bunch of hotspots that you can 415 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: deploy throughout a region. Uh, and then you will be 416 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: able to make you know, it's like step one, set 417 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: up your hotspot, set up your nodes, Step two, question mark, 418 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: step three profit classic Internet. Helium got in trouble back 419 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: last year, back in July, because they had made some 420 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: claims about their customers that appear to be not entirely 421 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: above board. Notably, they said they were working with corporate 422 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: giants like Salesforce or Lime and uh, neither company was 423 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: able to confirm that relationship. There's a great Vice article 424 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: that came out on January six this year by Matthew Galt. 425 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: Mysterious Antenna or a period in Utah's Hills and officials 426 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: are stumped. And this in here is doing some great 427 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: journalism and notes that people first started clocking these antenna 428 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: about a year ago, right, and they're relatively simple machines. 429 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: At the Public Lands Department of Salt Lake City has 430 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: been pulling them down every time they find them, but 431 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: someone keeps putting them back up. It's like toy and 432 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: be tiles, right, Uh. That they're pulling them down not 433 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: because they're like mean people like that villain and Footloose 434 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: who is just mad about folks dancing. It's because it's 435 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: illegal to build structures on public land without permission. And again, 436 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: these things are like up in the mountains. Sometimes they're 437 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: not something you would happen across. And they said that 438 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: they didn't have the resources or the staffing to look 439 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: into what was happening and remove everything. There's one quote 440 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: from a guy named Tyler funero Or who is the 441 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: manager of trails at Salt Lake City, and in this 442 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: vice article, Tyler says they found these antennas with no 443 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: distinguishing marks. They were bolted in. This was bolted into 444 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: the stone of the mountain and you needed special tools 445 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: right to remove it. And he said the following quote, 446 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: we honestly didn't even open the box. We just wanted 447 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: it off the hill. Yeah, he's like, I gotta do 448 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: my job. Come on, as if crypto bros could be 449 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: more annoying, let's just start cluttering up God's majesty with 450 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: little WiFi bots. Uh. I did find the article that 451 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: I was referencing from NPR is this dude named uh 452 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: let's see Massey. He's like a realtor and a crypto 453 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 1: enthusiasts who you know, made a big thing about selling 454 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: this first house with crypto minor built in. And that's 455 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: just to describe how the helium works essentially. Uh It says. 456 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: The computer is that box in the closet. It takes 457 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: the house's WiFi signal and shares it through an antenna 458 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: to be picked up by all kinds of little smart 459 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: devices within a few miles range of the house, things 460 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: like Internet enabled dog trackers or electric scooters, or water 461 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: sensors for flooding, all the stuff that makes up what 462 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: people call the Internet of Things. In return for that 463 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: work of sharing signal, the little computer earned some helium, 464 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: a cryptocurrency that you can exchange for real dollars, So 465 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: it'll make a couple of bucks a day, but basically 466 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: by sharing your WiFi um with close range items. Yeah, 467 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,239 Speaker 1: it looks like these. This is where we kind of 468 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: solve the mystery without official confirmation. It looks like these 469 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: antenna rigs are functioning as repeaters for a wireless network 470 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: and you can earn coins earned helium coins by maintaining 471 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: that network, and we want to I wanted to keep 472 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: this short so we can just say, here's a neat 473 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: mystery that is not about the end of the world 474 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: that is probably solved. So is it a conspiracy, Yes, 475 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: someone's trying to conspire to make a buck through crypto. 476 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: Is it bad? Not necessarily, It's not someone planning a 477 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: war or being a water thief. I think we can 478 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: end this one a little bit early and get to 479 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: our final story in Brazil and Florida. Uh in just 480 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: a moment, I think we end on this. You guys, 481 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: Let's go back to Tyler. I'm just I'm loving this 482 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: guy's vibe. In his interviews, he sums it up this way. 483 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: Talking about the antenna which are definitely associated with helium 484 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: right but not officially confirmed. Tyler says the following, As 485 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: long as it's not dangerous. We don't really care. We 486 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,239 Speaker 1: just want people to stop doing it so we can 487 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: get back to taking care of our lands. He's like, 488 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: I maintain trails. I'm man, stop making me the antenna guy. 489 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to tear down your stuff. You worked 490 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: on it, you know what I mean. It's like being 491 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: the person who said, who has to say, okay, let's 492 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: take down the Christmas tree, but also stop bolting into 493 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: my beautiful mountains and cluttering up my trail with that. 494 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: And then he adds, he adds to look, if someone 495 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: wanted to put an antenna in the exact same place 496 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: for a scientific purpose, we'd probably allow it. He's going, look, guys, 497 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm cool. I'm not the bad guy here, but you 498 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: don't have to be mysterious. Just check in. I adventure 499 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: that there's never been a bad guy named Tyler. I 500 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: just want to put that out there. I think it's 501 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: possible and not a bad guy. I'm clear, a little 502 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: bit flawed. No spoilers, man, come on, Okay, yeah, exactly, 503 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: all right, Well we don't always have to agree on everything. 504 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: That's why we're friends. Uh speaking, uh speaking about checking in, 505 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna check it in for a work from our sponsors, 506 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: and we will return with one more piece of strange news. 507 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: And we've returned with a story of the people, by 508 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: the people, and four of the people. And by and 509 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: by that, I mean that on multiple levels, but I 510 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: really mean it's a story that all three of us 511 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: really brought. Um. This is something that we've all been 512 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: paying attention to, UH, and that has a lot of 513 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: correlation with a lot of things going on in our country. 514 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: How happy and happy insurrection day to you as well, 515 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: Ben Um. Yeah, exactly, that is what we're talking about. 516 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: We're talking about an event um not in our country 517 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: that very closely parallels, dare we say, mirrors what happened 518 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: two years ago today, a essentially an insurrection dare we say, 519 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: an attempted coup on our soil in the United States. 520 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: And you know, call that hyperbole if you wish, I 521 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: personally don't think it is, and I also think that 522 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: history will not report it as such. I think it 523 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: was very much a dangerous culmination of a lot of things. UH. 524 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: The radicalization of individuals here in this country, brought on 525 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: a large part by social media and by the ability 526 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: to spread misinformation disinformation UM with no checks or balances. UH, 527 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: and we are now seeing that happening in other countries, 528 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: and this event we're talking about in Brazil is very 529 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: much the result of of a lot of that as well, 530 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: in addition to a lot of really hyped up UM 531 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: rhetoric around kind of mothering individuals who maybe are seen 532 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: as less desirable uh in a in a particular country 533 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: or within a system population what have you. Um, and 534 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: those in power that would seek to further that type 535 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: of rhetoric, whether it be through their own speeches, the 536 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: kinds of things they themselves post on social media, and 537 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: it's sort of spreading a usually self serving UM idea 538 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: of what is right, what is fair, you know, who 539 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: deserves to win. Oftentimes it will go against the face 540 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: of what we know to be free and clear elections 541 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: or whatever it might be, or pre existing laws. Um. 542 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: And it's very dangerous. You can really push uh, what 543 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: what would be seen as a law abiding or lawful 544 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: country into a state of lawlessness. Uh. Usually the people 545 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: that push it that way kind of tucktail and run 546 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: when the time comes to to own up to what 547 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: they've done, or you know, to to tell people to 548 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: go home and and and be nice and stop, you know, 549 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: trying to overturn governments, um, because you think I want 550 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: you to. Who were talking about. We're talking about a 551 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: guy by the name Jayir bol Cinaro, the recently defeated 552 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: president of Brazil. He was defeated in a democratic election 553 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: by a candidate by the name of Louise In Nazio 554 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 1: Lula da Silva m Who is you know more more 555 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: of a left wing candidate as far as that country's 556 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,959 Speaker 1: you know, sense of left wing and right wing go. Uh. 557 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: Bolsonaro has often been compared to Donald Trump in terms 558 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: of his rhetoric, his policy, and just his personality. Very 559 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: prone to self aggrandizing bluster and uh, potentially dangerous rhetoric 560 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: and not necessarily beholden super hardcore to the truth. Um. 561 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: And he got his people stirred up, much like we 562 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: saw with the January six one September march on the 563 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: US Capitol. Uh and how Trump said, you know, I'll 564 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: be with you, go march to the to the Capitol 565 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: and all that. But this one was a little different 566 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: because it happened several months after the election UM as 567 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: opposed to in an effort to overturn the election, So 568 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: a little unclear as to what the goal was here, um, 569 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: but it used similar rhetoric in terms like stop the 570 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: steel and a lot of concern over the idea of 571 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: rigged ballots and manipulating election results and all of that, 572 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: which resulted in a lot of organization through apps like 573 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: Telegram I believe of which is encrypted, you know, and 574 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: ten communication. It's often used for lots of illegal activities, 575 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 1: from drug dealing to perhaps even you know, terrorists type 576 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: conversations to um organizing you know, where you don't want 577 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: to be spied on. Uh, And that is exactly what happened. 578 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: We already know there were blockades on October after Bosnara 579 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: was was was defeated. The blocked major highways across Brazil, 580 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 1: and then those eventually turned into these kind of stolen 581 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: election demonstrations. But let's let's stop there. Did you guys 582 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: have anything else to add just about how the event 583 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: itself mirrors what we saw over here, and then we 584 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: can kind of get into the social media aspect. Not 585 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: to mention what has happened with Boilsonaro himself. I just 586 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: give you my only understanding. I haven't been keeping up 587 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: on this as much as you guys. But my understanding 588 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: was that the latest actions took place almost maybe almost 589 00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 1: immediately after the inauguration of the new the incoming returning president, 590 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: because remember Lula was president in the past exactly right, 591 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: but not in the previous start. Now, my understanding was that, 592 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a there's a really great article. It's 593 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: sort of the primary reporting on a lot of this 594 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: is on the Washington Post by Elizabeth uh Doe skin 595 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: or do skin DW S K I N and UM. 596 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: According to her reporting, the inauguration took place last week. UM, 597 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 1: as we sit here on January eleven, with with very 598 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: little incidents. UM, it wasn't until several weeks later that 599 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: the online calls for you know, for rising up and 600 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 1: violence and all of that began to to really take hold. 601 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: And then we've seen the riots taking place just a 602 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: couple of days ago over the weekend on Sunday. Yeah, 603 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: there's I think there's a larger context is too. I'm 604 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 1: really glad we're talking about this because what we're seeing 605 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: is something that has been predicted, not by the people 606 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: you would expect for a number of years, the rise 607 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: of right wing authoritarian governments using uh, using a lot 608 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: of hidden hand type of money. Like, I love that 609 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: you're pointing out the funding question, know all about keeping 610 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: stuff off the grid? Uh, not raised too many flags 611 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: while we get these people on these buses. Let's also 612 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: remember there was an attempted coup in Germany. Let's talk 613 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: about Peru, right, let's talk about d c uh. And 614 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: when I say not the folks you might expect predicting 615 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: this sort of stuff for years, they were people that 616 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: would generally there were there were people on what you 617 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: would consider the far left, but there were also people 618 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: on the very far pro fascist right who were predicting this, 619 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: and they were doing it as fan boys. So it's 620 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,720 Speaker 1: a very strange thing for them to be correct about. 621 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: So I I think there's a larger mechanism at play. 622 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: It's bigger than one country. And I don't know what 623 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: they and what the trend is, I mean, depending on 624 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: how it works out, Like how is is Brazil handling 625 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: this the same way that the US was? What are 626 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: they saying? I think? Uh? Former President Donald Trump was 627 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: in the United States for the entirety of the January 628 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,919 Speaker 1: six events. Right, what about this guy, Well, he took 629 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: off Okay, yeah, he took off to Florida, and I'm 630 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: frankly surprised that he wasn't reported, you know, having dinner Mr. 631 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: Lago with like you know, Kanye West and Milanopolis or something. Um, 632 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 1: but he was hanging out with an mm A fighter 633 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: or a former mm A fight. Yeah that's right. Uh correct, 634 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: Jose Aldo. Uh in his home. He put him up 635 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 1: Bolsonaro and Ben, you're the first person I saw posting. 636 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: But this just like videos of Bolsonaro just listlessly wandering 637 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: around Publix, which is kind of a Southern thing. I say, 638 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: I realized, like public is kind of a Florida thing. Um. 639 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,439 Speaker 1: I recently had my first pub sub yesterday. Public sub 640 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: very very high quality, pretty good. But I don't think 641 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: I don't think Bolsonaro had a pub sub because he 642 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 1: was also seen dressed in the same clothes, just ravenously 643 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: gnawing on some KFC like yeah, housing it for sure, 644 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: and um some other There were a couple of other sightings, 645 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 1: you know. But the thing that I thought was most 646 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: interesting with the Internet kind of took and ran with 647 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: is that in the home of a former UFC rather 648 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: not m M a UFC fighter, Jose Aldo, one of 649 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: the bedrooms is like entirely Minions themed. We can neither 650 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 1: confirm nor deny that Bolsonaro slept in that room. It's 651 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: it's you know, hard to not imagine that. It's weird too, 652 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: because you know a lot of people, depending on the 653 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: things that you support or oppose, you may already have 654 00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: a preformed opinion about Bolsonado And I've been anti that 655 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: guy for a minute, just to be honest, and it's 656 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: just my opinion because I didn't care for his his 657 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: stance on the Amazon rainforest. Yeah, basically turned the politics aside. 658 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: Human civilization needs the Amazon to be a thing just 659 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: for ventilation, you forget, biodiversity to breathe a millions necessary 660 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: and they obviously a ton of it is right there, 661 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 1: you know, in Brazil, and he was very much trying 662 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: to do away with any protections on it and the 663 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: interest of you know, developing it for use for commercial use, 664 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: whether it be for resources or who knows how far 665 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: it could have gone. Also very much anti or vaccine skeptic. Uh, 666 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 1: quite a bit of a race bader, you know, really 667 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: had some some nasty compunctions as a politician. But much 668 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: like we saw here with you know, this divisive election 669 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: and in previous elections, the idea that perhaps social media 670 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: almost glommed onto this, this algorithm, these algorithms that govern 671 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: these various social media platforms like Twitter specifically, uh, Facebook, 672 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: Big One, um, you know, and others. Now we've got TikTok, 673 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: which is you know, more focused at that the kids, 674 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 1: but that these algorithms tend to steer people towards rather 675 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:26,240 Speaker 1: than away from radicalizing sources. Um. For example in Brazil 676 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: where you know, Elon Musk recently came out you know, 677 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: full support of Brazilian Brasilian democracy and then this is 678 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 1: a horrible thing, but also you know, stripped Brazil's Twitter 679 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: wing of all the content moderators that could have potentially 680 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: prevented these kinds of things from happening. So talking on 681 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: a both sides of his mouth lit because when you 682 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: would type in things like ballot or election, it would 683 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: like auto complete to rigged ballot and stolen election. So 684 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: again you know, it's a chicken or the egg question, right, 685 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: Like as we know, how like Google instant results that 686 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: are I guess one would think based on the frequency 687 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 1: of people searching for things. So if something searched for enough, 688 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: then the algorithm thinks that's right, or that's like, you 689 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 1: know what people want to be searching for, So you 690 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: can't necessarily say they're doing this on purpose, but they're 691 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: certainly not preventing it from happening. True, And then it 692 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:25,280 Speaker 1: becomes the argument of the argument of whether social media 693 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: discourse is a privately owned club that allows members or 694 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 1: whether it is a public good, and the answer to 695 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: that question both it always changes depending on what is 696 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: most convenient for the owners of those platforms. I also 697 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: want to say, just to get in front of some 698 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: of the emails we're going to get, also want to 699 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: say that, folks, please don't be please don't get it twisted. 700 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 1: We are also very well aware of the numerous numerous 701 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: accusations of corruption in the previous Lula administration. This is 702 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: not some shining messiah on a hill by any means. 703 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: I think we've always been pretty clear that while certain 704 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 1: candidates or or or politicians may be more divisive publicly, 705 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: it's all kind of all the same puppet show, you 706 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't really think you're getting 707 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: radical change in one direction or the other depending on 708 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: who's sitting in that seat. Uh, that's just I think 709 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about. The band one direction a million. Yeah, 710 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: but speaking of speaking of bands, I don't know, we 711 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,760 Speaker 1: we can definitely, you know, take this in a number 712 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: of directions. But you mentioned that the idea of this 713 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: type of thing has been predicted. Um, you know, whether 714 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: it's this specifically in Brazil, what's happened here in America, 715 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 1: or just in general, it has been. But here's a 716 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: good take from someone you might not expect from nineteen 717 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: eight six from an episode of Crossfire on a debate 718 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: on censorship. The musician and thinker and uh just absolute 719 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: kind of you know, um renaissance man Frank Zappa had 720 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: this to say, the biggest threat to America today in 721 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: is not communism. It's moving America towards a fascist theocracy. 722 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,240 Speaker 1: And everything that's happened during the Reagan administration is steering 723 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: us right down that pipe. I really think that when 724 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: you have a government that prefers a certain moral code 725 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 1: derived from a certain religion, and that moral code turns 726 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 1: into legislation to suit one certain religious point of view, 727 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: and if that code happens to be very very right wing, 728 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: almost toward a till of the un h M. Well, 729 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,839 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think that's a pretty interesting take 730 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,320 Speaker 1: in Vince Zappa is a devisive figure in and of himself, 731 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 1: But I mean, he did have some really interesting predictions 732 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: about the music business, about you know, the nature of 733 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: recording and creativity, and this one I think kind of 734 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,240 Speaker 1: nails it. Guys, I I hear you, but I really 735 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 1: can't get Jared Carmichael's joke about scientology out of my head, 736 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: did you guys? In everybody's head? No, I'm not going 737 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: to repeat his joke. I refused to do it. It 738 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,879 Speaker 1: was a it was at the Golden Globes and he 739 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: had some several golden globes in his hands. He said 740 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: they were from a certain actor who is a high 741 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 1: ranking member within scientology, talking about Mr Sup. Yeah, I 742 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: heard that he returned them. Well, yeah he did. He 743 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: returned them, but then under the controversy with the Hollywood 744 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: Foreign Press. But Jared's joke was about well maybe we 745 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: can you know, basically pawing knees and use that money 746 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: to find out where Shelley Miscavage is. Basically it was 747 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: a joke about finding a person that actually law enforcement 748 00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: says is quote fine, she's fine. Stop asking they're fine, right, Okay, 749 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,280 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. I'm so unplugged from the Golden 750 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 1: Globes and the concept of celebrity. I heard one n 751 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: p rps covering it and saw a few pictures. When 752 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 1: I did see that image and references to Chelly miscabbage jokes, 753 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: that's all I heard, my own positive No, I heard 754 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: my folks from everything everywhere all at once got some shine, 755 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: well deserved. Right. People say the Golden Globes are like 756 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: a precursor of the Oscars, but they've really been mired 757 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: in uh you know, bull shnip because of some allegations 758 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: and justifiably so, of racism by the Hollywood Foreign Press 759 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 1: Association because of zero members of color and just you know, 760 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,319 Speaker 1: Draw Carmich literally said I'm here today because I'm black. Um, 761 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, so they it's very interesting they can they 762 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: would even allow that kind of commentary on their own 763 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: organization to take place, but they kind of have to. 764 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: They gotta take their lumps. You know, this is this 765 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 1: is good news, because Matt, when you started to set 766 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,720 Speaker 1: this up, I was worried that you were gonna again 767 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 1: say I'm not telling you why I have to go 768 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 1: to Brazil, which which is you know, we don't want 769 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 1: to pry, but I hope you had a good No, 770 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: he's not in his head. I'm not gonna let that 771 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: joke fly. I don't have I don't have anything going 772 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: on right now, no travel. Okay, So, uh, scientology, you 773 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: know we should we should do an update on that, 774 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: especially on the Miskevich situation, because it is it is strange, 775 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 1: is it not? Because I can't find David either right 776 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: now that there's several people trying to serve him and 777 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: they're unable to do it. And also Masterson just had 778 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: a mistrial in those sexual assault cases. Right. Uh? Okay, 779 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: so this is a good teaser for us. Well, I 780 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 1: just want to ask the most important guys. And then 781 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 1: no one's talking about where is jaw rule? Where is jended? 782 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 1: Someone to make sense of? You have something to say 783 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:58,399 Speaker 1: about all this jo with that, that's a perfect endor. 784 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: With that, we're going into call it a day, a 785 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 1: sunrise or a sunset, depending on your schedule of torpor. Uh. 786 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 1: We can't wait to hear your thoughts. What's going on 787 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 1: in Utah? What's your take on fungal infections? And perhaps 788 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: most importantly, let us know what you think about the 789 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: story you were bringing the old regarding Wilsonaro traveling outside 790 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: of his own country amid of what could only be 791 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 1: a cop attempt. He's also not well. Wilsonaro was notoriously 792 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 1: a bit sickly and apparently that KFC didn't do him 793 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 1: any favors. So uh, they are saying he's probably gonna 794 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: be returning back to Brazil sooner than later to get 795 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: like medical treatment. Right. He was hospitalized right for a 796 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,839 Speaker 1: dominable pain. So we want to hear your take on 797 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: all things global and local. Also special shout out to 798 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: uh friend of the show and all hip hop fans 799 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: Stickman of Dead pres who recently experienced some catastrophic flooding 800 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 1: but is yeah, but is doing well from what we 801 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: can tell. 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