WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Greatness on Defense? 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:05.120 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:13.000 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This ship is 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:18.079 the Player's Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:23.600 at the Star. Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny mccraig, 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:33.360 Heck Ma Harrison, and NEWI scrugs, go time right here 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:39.879 on the Players Lounge. They're gonna get you, big dog. 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.040 Hey man, he got he got bigger probles than meeting 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:45.879 Russell Wilson, got bigger probles than me. Right here he 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:51.280 is HECKM. Harrison in the house, Barry Church, Yes, former 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:55.360 Cowboys safety in the house. Uh. Your Toledo Rockets? Are 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.120 they playing Saturday or Friday in the MAC Championship? I 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.959 believe it is Friday. Okay, even this Friday got looked 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:05.160 at up, But I believe it's Friday. The Machi antime. 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.400 The fact that you don't do you You don't know 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.320 that though, man, I told you. It's a long story. 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.039 But yeah, you're going right now. I ain't. I ain't 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.760 messing with it. It is Saturday, Oh I thought it was. 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.600 It is? It is? It is Saturday. So the championship 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:24.119 game is Saturday at eleven a m on E SPN. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:31.240 The Toledo Rockets are going up against Ohio at ninety three. Yes, yes, 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:35.040 so they are on a R on ESPN. ABC is 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.400 going to air the Big twelve Championship game at eleven 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.480 a m. A. Jerry World, I'm glad there we go. 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:42.880 All right, Toledo t O M E d O. That 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.759 may not dedicated like you are, Man, I'm a bought man. Look, 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.800 I just figured you know, this man has been in 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.600 the Hall of Fame and all uh that they you 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:54.880 know that that would be that would have been the 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.920 bridge that they built, you know, the Bury Church that 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.920 you know, kind of reconcile this whole thing. But somehow 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.640 it didn't. You didn't. Oh man, it didn't cost me. Man, 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:06.880 I should have been drafted. I should have been drafted. 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:11.240 But think about still gotta still right here, wound. I'm 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.639 gonna leave that alone. I'm gonna stay away from that. 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:20.000 Your North Texas mean Green Uh they're playing in the 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:24.120 Conversation Championship. Well you know that is all I believe. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:30.720 That's Friday. Okay, Yeah, putting got Central Florida. You're in 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.080 the house. No, I'm gonna be here, Okay, what I'm 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.120 gonna be Here'm I got a game to go to 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:42.000 on Saturday. Okay, okay at a stayed okay for my 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:47.120 other boy. Yeah, I'm going from my other boy. Yeah, 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.519 you know what time it is? Hey, you in the 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:55.399 Sugar Bowl no matter what. Man, Hey, it's all good, Radu. 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.560 You don't leave me hanging the Sugar Bowl. You're going 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:01.080 to Chugar bowa side. I want you to hit up 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.079 Coachewan when you down a New Orles for the Sugar Bowl. 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.920 With Case State, Case State Church, this thing works out great. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.280 If they win the Big Twelve championship, they will go 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.880 represent the conference in the Sugar Bowl. If they lose 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.160 a Big Towel championship, they still get to go represent 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.960 the conference in the Sugar Bowl because TCU would be 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.080 going to the College Football Playoffs, playing in either the 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.960 Peach Bowl or the bowl game out in Arizona Fiesta. 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:23.480 So these boys at Case State are rolling to New 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.000 Orleans no matter what. That's good living right there. But 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:27.880 but you can't roll the New Ones on an eldough. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.200 Oh like they're not gonna go. I mean you're gonna go, 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.880 definitely gonna go. But it's just like you gotta be. 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.640 You gotta spoil TCU. You gotta spoil that. You can't 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.920 go to the sugar time it is. You know what 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.320 it's all about, cantling Christ. The kids gonna be momping 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:47.440 around in New Orleans. Man. Man, no, I don't want nobody. 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:49.600 We didn't win the big don't give me that. Don't 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.680 give it that gum bowl. I don't going to Burp Street. 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.560 I gotta say in my hotel the whole time. You 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.040 know what, we're going to be a new year, New Year, 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:00.480 twenty twenty three, about to win this game. No stop, 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:02.200 stop and stop and stop by the way I new 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.360 we scrugs, um wait wait what about Penbrook? What that 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.480 got going on? We fired the coach. I've been I've 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.800 been on the coaching search, okay, giving me names when 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.680 like dude, sisters had had a couple of guys caught 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.320 called the Fritz Potter lines like guy some African American 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.120 people who talked to here. So I'm trying to help 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.760 with the coaching search here and uh you know, there 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:24.760 we go newly shrugs. Is Hollard has its hired as 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.320 the new head coach. No, no, no, no no, you you 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.560 wouldn't go down that route. They was like, we need 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:36.479 heyb to coach ever ever, never ever, know what, No, 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:42.200 there is a number I couldn't not there nothing about coaching. 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.960 You know. I couldn't deal with like Kelvin Joseph. You 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:49.600 know we're gonna jump outside on you know, we line 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:53.560 up a special team, you jumping outside. I couldn't handle that, scrugs. 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.840 We're gonna give you, uh seventy million over seven years 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.400 not to coach. I got his whole family at the podium, 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:04.279 this opportunity, like port Mike McCarthy, you know, after the 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.000 packer lost, shill hit the podium and he's trying to 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.520 explain Jalen Tolbert not you know, he was out here defenditive, 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.240 he said. He talked to him like, bro, Mike, you know, 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:17.560 dudes all side and right right right. You know, I 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.200 just wouldn't. I couldn't handle it, man. So I couldn't 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.000 handle these things. Man, I would be I'd just be 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.520 inappropriate all day long as as a head coach. So no, no, 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:27.600 couldn't do it. And you got your life. You got 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:29.760 your life in other people's hands. And the other thing 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.200 you guys noticed because you guys have both played college football, 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.839 um and bare he played the pros. The coaches pretty 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.320 or do a pretty good job of having you thoroughly prepared. 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.960 Oh yeah, yeah, and so you've told people what to 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.480 do and next thing, you know, all right, they don't 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.520 do what you said. But some coaches, man, they get 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.919 to a world this should be easy. Should It ain't 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.159 easy to cover these wide receivers. It ain't easy to 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.240 cover these tight ends. Coach, I told you were man 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.840 and man stay outside leverage. It ain't that easy when 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.080 Kelsey's hitting you with seven moves to stay on the 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.960 outside leverage, like sub coaches got to realize, like that, 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.200 Come on, now, we understand how the x is and 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:04.920 olds work, but you actually got to be in the 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.480 But you don't imagine being in a dark room Phil 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:12.520 Suddy with that little laser light with NEWI this is you, 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.440 This is you, right, take it back, take it back, 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.000 hold on, hold on the clicker in his head and 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.120 oh god, the last place in the world I want 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:29.480 to be like that guy from Twitter. Yeah, here's Joseph. 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:33.960 Here's one more time. We all know it's a simple 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.800 pa T but no, here's Joseph. Oh you know, yes. 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:39.840 I told yeah, you got you can get bad about 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:44.400 I would be on people all day. Lol. No, I 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.000 would not be. It would be I never forget. Coach 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:52.760 Levitt asked me in a meeting, man, just bad tapes, Harrison, 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.680 what you make on your SAT. It's like seven hundred 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:08.640 no one that we can't get it. That's where either 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.240 Scott don't lie game bro. You can't lie your way 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.000 out of that. With dude and the stuff I could 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.840 have had on Jalen if I was coaching. Here's swipe, 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:22.640 he run into the quarterback. He's swiped. That's where the 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.520 coach turned around and say, look at this. Hold on, 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:29.320 hold on, hold on, y'all. See that's you be the 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:32.040 worst here it is here. It is a Mari Road game. 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:38.920 Knew we weren't go getting. Let's look at this, they say, 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:47.280 when your boy was like this, here's carts that pass away. 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.840 Can look at all of you guys here. Put him on, 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:55.240 put him in the promo. Yeah no, I couldn't. I couldn't. 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.000 I could, I couldn't do it. Would I would be 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:01.480 super slow. Look at this. Let's samgovern hold on everybody, 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:05.560 here's my govern holding was good for that too. That 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.160 Garret vision on sunthing. Man, you had the whole team 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.680 in there after pract after after a game, and he 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:12.960 would pick out ten plays. You would just please don't 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.920 be on them ten play And if you were, did 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.360 you know going in you you knew, you knew exactly 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.720 what plays like. Man, if they catch me on this play, 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.600 it's gonna be bad. So you knew gonna play like 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:27.000 that's gonna make it the only hope you had if 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.160 you won the game, if you had bad tape and 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.240 you lost, You think about that all night when you 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.440 get to the facility going through weights. Then when you 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.280 get to that room, you know you're gonna be on there. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:38.960 You know you're gonna be on Garret vision. Man. It 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.880 was And of course the worst question every coach asks 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.599 you when you know you messed up? What were you thinking? Why? 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:51.000 Why tell me? Why? Why? Why tell me why? I'll 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.320 tell you why. This man was because I got no, no, no, no, 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:58.200 there's no there's no answer. Good right. But and the 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.000 one you never want to say, Well, I thought, don't 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.080 ever say thoughts. You guys know, don't ever tell the guy. 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:06.640 I thought, Oh see, you thought, that's the problem. You're thinking. No, 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:11.640 how WoT you think I couldn't coach? Man, I couldn't. 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:13.840 I couldn't coach. So today I get a phone call 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:17.160 from somebody over at the NBC since the Cowboys have 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.040 the Colts game this weekend, and they said to me, 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:27.640 knew it, what does this Cowboys defense need to become great? Wow? Now, 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.280 before I tell you what I said, I figure i'll 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.079 bring it to the crew. I'm gonna start with you. Heck, 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:39.840 what does this team need the defense become great? The defense? Man, 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.240 I struggle with that question because I think they have 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:46.280 all the inner workings of a great defense. And when 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.120 I think great defense, I think ninety one Eagles. I 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:54.320 think UH with Jerome Brown and White. Um, I think 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:59.160 the Still Curtain. I think the two thousand Baltimore Ravens. Um, 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:03.000 I think the New York Giants when they want Yeah, 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:06.319 I mean I'm thinking about and you start talking about 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.640 those names and the guys that you had up front. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:13.200 To me, you you have everything at the at the edge, 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.000 you have everything at the cornerback position. I think you 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.319 even have it at the safety position. When you talk 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.680 about JK and what he's doing, I think the only 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:25.480 missing piece is a guy up front. That's the only 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.280 thing that I can think of. You don't have a 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:31.200 Warren Sap, you don't have a Sarah Goosa. You don't 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.400 have you know, you don't have that one guy upfront 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.600 that you could say he's and and I struggle with 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.280 that because I think of Dicky Zula. I think a 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.800 lot of these guys they fit the mold they're getting there. 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:44.760 I just don't think that they are when we think 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.960 dominant and when we think those great defenses, I don't 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.400 think that you put those guys in that same vein. Yeah, 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.760 and I'm with you as far as this defense being 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.719 as close as perfect as you can be. I mean, 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.199 obviously they're not perfect. Obviously they're not the two thousand 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.200 Ravens or the O two bucks or anything like that. 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:04.920 But these guys they got playmakers on each level. You 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:06.640 talk about the defensive line, the way they're able to 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:10.000 get after the quarterback. They've gotten better in stopping the run. 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.920 You look at that secondary Russian cover works together. You 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.840 got Digs, you got Brown sometimes Brown, you know, he 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:17.720 gives up some plays here and there, but overall, I 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.360 think he's an extremely solid corner. And you've mentioned the 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.280 safeties you've got two guys that can play in the 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.040 box extremely well. They can blitz when you talk about 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.480 Wilson and Jay Kang, and you got the ultimate, you know, 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.920 middle of the field safety in Hooker who makes sure 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:33.120 everything's kept in front of the defense. So they're extremely 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.439 you know, extremely good. I would say they are extremely good, 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.280 almost great defense. I just think maybe the one thing, 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.160 if anything, I can put my finger two is maybe 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.960 having a playmaker on that second level, that playmaker on 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:47.840 that line level. Early in his career, Lve, you know, 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.000 his rookie year, he was that playmaking guy. We've seen 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.840 him scooping and scorn coming off of sacks, forcing fumbles, 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.599 getting interceptions. We've seen that, y'all. We talk about the 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.559 Ravens they had Ray Lewis, you talk about the Buccaneers, 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:02.240 they had Derek Brooks out there. So I just think 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:06.160 maybe in our linebacker corps solid, it's extremely solid, but 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:10.240 just maybe having a playmaking linebacker on that second level 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.920 can put this defense over the top. But rise of 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.559 right now, I mean, I'm extremely happy with this defense 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:17.240 is doing so far this season and their strength of 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.040 this team, so they don't need much. Maybe a playmaker 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:24.400 on the second level. Okay, here's what I said. You guys, 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.640 tell me how you feel about it. I said, um, 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:32.440 you cannot be a great defense when you were twenty 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.480 fourth in the NFL against the run and allowing teams 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.040 running for one hundred thirty two yards against you. A 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.480 great defense is not going to allow that tap. They're 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.559 gonna shut that down. And that was my that was 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.480 my response. I had to think about it for a minie. 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.240 I was like, and that's what I came back to us, like, 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.920 I said, you know, that's it. That's it. When you 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:54.400 look at statistically they are number one against the past 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.440 in the National Football League total defense their seventh, but 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.959 twenty four. That stood out to me when you think 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.760 one hundred thirty two yards, that's a lot of that's 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.880 that's that's folks running on the man. That's that's that's 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:07.600 some stuff. So so to me, that was what I 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.400 That's what I said to the person NBC Scots. Yeah, 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:14.320 and I think this this Dan Quinn has probably he's 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.480 not preaching this, but it's a bend but don't break 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.040 style when it comes down to the run. We we 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.440 talked earlier in the season about the points that they 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.680 were allowing. I think teams were not even getting past 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.760 fifteen points on this defense. It wasn't until you know, 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:30.080 a certain point, maybe Green Bay. Uh the season are 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.360 the Eagles that they you know, we had a team 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.800 score over twenty points on them. Look, I just think 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.480 that this is a passing league and teams are concentrating 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:41.959 so much on getting sacks and stopping those big plays 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.640 that now, as I've said, you know, the revolution of 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.000 the running game, teams are starting to go now towards 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.480 running the ball at these smaller defensive linemen or defensive 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.600 linemen that are not trying to gobble up blocks and 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.080 you know, you know alignment play alignment assignment football, and 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.760 that's how you stop the run. So I think they 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.800 had have There's been a complete thought process change as 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.920 it relates to this defense mid season. That's that's the development, 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.640 because they want to be elite, and that's the one 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.720 thing like that is the thorn in their side. Knowing 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.120 that they're twenty fourth in the run one thirty two 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:16.520 per you know, that's that's not gonna get it done, 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.720 and that's gonna keep you out of that that company 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.080 of being a legue, especially when you're going against better teams. 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.240 I mean, we've all seen it. You know, we going 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.240 into last year, going into the playoffs. You know it 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.160 was the penalties that kind of came back and hit 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.440 us in the end. This rushing attack when you get 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.360 into those NFC playoffs you're talking about you know Seattle 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.840 who can run the football extremely well, the forty nine ers, 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.200 they can run the football extremely well. Look at Philadelphia. 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.600 That's all they do, it is running the football. So 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.160 to me, I mean, you're you're gonna go against teams, 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:44.920 better teams when you get into the playoffs, and that's 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:46.760 something that you gotta, you know, stitch together and make 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.280 sure you get it together because at the end it 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.080 might hit you in the butt. If if we get 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:52.640 to the playoffs and teams were still able to run 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:54.720 the football on you. How about these numbers for the 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:59.600 eighty six Giants fifty nine sacks as a team, intercepted 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:04.080 twenty four passes um. In the playoffs, they gave up 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:08.880 twenty three points total total like all rounds, and in 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.480 the Super Bowl they won thirty nine to twenty over Denver, 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:15.280 which means only played two games and dudes, onlys go 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.400 at three points against them. Lords Taylor twenty and a 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.840 half sacks, Leonard Marshall twelve sacks, Carl Banks six and 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.600 a half sax. I was guys getting apped for people 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.560 right there. That was I was. I was five sacks 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.720 and the eighty six Giants comes back on the heels 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.840 of how great that eighty five Bears team was. It 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.800 wasn't the eighty six Bears even better statistically? Just crazy. 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:40.200 They were good. But you know, and this is just 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.720 my field. What when you when you try to when 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:48.360 when you when you try repeat, you know the whole 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.720 season in eighty five, you win in eighty five, you 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.960 know you're everybody loves you. You're not paying for nothing. 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.240 I mean it's tough to come back the next year 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.600 when you went in a town like that, I think 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.720 sixty three since they won the Super Bowl. I mean 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:05.480 that's hard to have that say, like a rocky three 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.520 minute they had an eye tiger baby they had it 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.360 was a full tig tiger had to get up and hunting. Nobody. 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.640 Everybody was bringing the food. You know what you want 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.520 to want to pay his book? You gotta hunt nothing, man. 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.560 It's hard. It's hard, man. You know. That was a 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:22.360 dominant defense Richard Dent, Wilbell, Marshall. Well, they had some 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.040 they had some dogs on that defense. But when you 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.920 switch over and you talk about the Giants, that was 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.760 a different league back then, Like you had running backs 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.240 that random ball carried, Like the stat line was forty 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:37.520 carries for a hundred And that's why these guys are 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:39.600 walking around like man that guys can't walk because he 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:43.640 carried the ball forty thirty five times per game. That 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.640 was the stat line. I mean, try Troy Aikman couldn't 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.640 have imagined throwing the ball as much as Dak Prescott 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.680 has to throw the ball, you know, so a different league, 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:54.840 different time, and so for those numbers to be that 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:58.240 just shows their domination attention to the detail of stopping 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.560 the run, because that's all there was. You know. It's 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.240 not like you didn't have guys like Jerry world Rice 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:06.600 out there and guys that were just completely balling, but 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.760 the run. Stopping the run was the number one thing 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:13.680 for a defense that bears defense that year in eighty five, 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.760 Richard Dent seventeen sacks, Otis Wilson ten and a half sacks, 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:21.200 Team Michael eight sacks, Leslie Fraser's six interceptions. Dave Duerson 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:26.760 five's Gary Fensick had five intersects, and they came and 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.840 played the Cowboys that year and it was forty four nothing. Um, 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:38.640 So yeah, man, Mike singletary boy. And then the Steelers 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.560 defense surrendered a grand total of twenty eight points through 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.160 nine games, had a nine and nose stretch which included 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.959 five shutouts and two contests with three points allowed. Um, 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.200 you'll never see that. It's seventy six steal. Yeah, that 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.920 that'll never happen. Man. You know in a league where 0:17:55.000 --> 0:18:00.000 when it changed all the rules, that ain't that right there, 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.640 that right there might be be that might be more 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.879 secure than that Dolphins seventy two uh season where they 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:08.320 were undefeated. Because there's there's no way the twenty eight 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:12.840 points to nine games, nine games, that's ridiculous. That's stupid 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:18.160 offense at home, which in five shutouts in the nine okay, 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.840 five shots in the nine and it's two of the contest. 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:22.159 We only gave you a few goals, so then you 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:26.679 score touchdown. That's crazy, man, that's absolutely crazy. Um. And 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:29.080 this this week, once again, here the Cowboys facing off 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.280 against a Colts team where you know what they can 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.320 run the ball um they're averaging one hundred and eighteen 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.240 point three yards. That's seventeenth in the league. Jonathan Taylor 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.239 not as good, but that offensive line not not as 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.600 good as but the Cowboys, in my opinion, and we've 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.840 spoken about it right here on this podcast, gotta go 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.920 ahead and put together some better performances and stopping the 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:51.320 run and obviously some of the numbers they've had here 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:52.800 earlier in the in the year. You know, you think 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.119 about that the Lions ran on the Green Bay ran 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.840 or Chicago, Chicago and two or thirty nine yards. Got 0:18:57.920 --> 0:18:59.879 to cut that down. So it's one more opportunity to 0:18:59.880 --> 0:19:03.359 do that. Let's take a break. I want you to 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:08.600 think of something positive about what Mike McCarthy's done these 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:16.919 heating Okay, because I was also asked this question something positive? Yeah, yeah, support, 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.240 I want something positive about what Mike McCarthy's doing. I say, 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:21.840 you know that gave them something that's like, you can't 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:23.440 really bring this to the show. We ask the guys 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:24.920 here since I got put on a hot seat a 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:26.840 little bit here answering questions. But the Cowboy, would you 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:28.959 guys think he's Heck Maherson, that's Berry Church. I'm new 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:32.320 re scotch. 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