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Speaker 2: Straight tydown and now your hosts, Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris,

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Speaker 2: John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 4: Welcome in, everybody. We've got the full crew ready to roll.

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Speaker 3: Lots to talk about here in this Dallas Cowboys offseason.

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Speaker 3: Isaiah's standing back, John Machoda, Nick Harris, Chris Beam in

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Speaker 3: the back. I'm Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 5: Gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: How are we doing today, Isaiah?

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Speaker 3: Hello?

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Speaker 4: How's it going?

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Speaker 5: Man? Good man? How are you doing? Good?

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Speaker 4: Good? John?

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Speaker 1: Everything good, Everything's great, No complaints?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, the swing of offseason.

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Speaker 7: I guess you're really getting into the mix of it now,

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Speaker 7: which is tough because the super Bowl week, but yeah,

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Speaker 7: you're really entrenched in the off season now, so good stuff.

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Speaker 6: We have a lot to talk about too.

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Speaker 3: I still feel like this week, you're gonna see just

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Speaker 3: how much fun it was for the Chiefs and the

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers and what their fan bases are getting

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Speaker 3: new experience right now. And it's gonna hurt a little

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Speaker 3: bit if you're Cowboys fans, if you're out there and

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Speaker 3: you're still thinking back to the Packers, you're thinking it

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Speaker 3: back to that wildcard loss.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna hurt a little bit.

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Speaker 3: And then that sting will go away gradually after this week,

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Speaker 3: but up until this week, it won't be there.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be there.

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Speaker 8: Pockets are heavier than they wouldn't than what they would

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Speaker 8: have been had you went to Vegas, dude, for real,

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Speaker 8: because those rooms are not cheap.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, did you try and get out there this year?

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Speaker 8: I tried to get a hotel room the day after

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Speaker 8: last year Super Bowl, Okay, and the rates were already crazy.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, wasn't that wild?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 9: I mean it's the first time in Vegas, so it's

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Speaker 9: gonna be it's insane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I know people with a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 8: a lot of money. I know individuals with a lot

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Speaker 8: of money. They're staying at the Golden Nugget, talking flying down,

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Speaker 8: flying down there private and having to stay at the

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Speaker 8: Golden Nugget. I should tell you exactly no but private

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Speaker 8: private jet. Yeah, Golden Nugget. But before we get too crazy,

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Speaker 8: I have to have to get the shot out real quick. Okay,

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Speaker 8: today's my wife's fortieth birthday. Oh make shout out to that.

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Speaker 5: She's not here. She's out of town doing some uh

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Speaker 5: some nonprofit work.

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Speaker 4: But oh wow, but she's giving even on.

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Speaker 5: On her birthday, her birthday. That's really cool, pretty dope.

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Speaker 5: That's all.

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Speaker 4: Y'all had a nice little get together this.

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Speaker 5: Week, and yeah, we turn up a little bit.

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Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, let your boy get a little energy drink

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Speaker 8: in the system, because that's it. That's the only I

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Speaker 8: could live rigging my knee, that's all.

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Speaker 1: It takes some energy drink.

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Speaker 5: That's all. I need one energy drink.

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Speaker 8: Bro, don't give me too rifle coffee. Don't give me

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Speaker 8: two energy drinks. If I get three, I might be

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Speaker 8: streaking through the quad in the coliseum.

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Speaker 7: I think, I think at your water. I got your

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Speaker 7: birthday dinner in Seattle during the preseason. You had had

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Speaker 7: two red bulls and all.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we actually I actually kept a pretty chill that night.

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Speaker 6: We had work.

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Speaker 1: What you'd be like, if you mix a little bit

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Speaker 1: of some spirits in there, spirits, spirits, you haven't really

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Speaker 1: lived until you mix that red bull.

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Speaker 5: Or something else. Somebody's trying to do that to me before,

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Speaker 5: and I smelled it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I ordered a red bull and it came back

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Speaker 8: into glass and I was like, that's not just red bull.

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Speaker 3: A lot of if you go to a bar and

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Speaker 3: you order just a red bull, they sometimes will actually

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Speaker 3: think you're thinking, that's like a normal thing. I don't

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Speaker 3: think you should be my buddy, but my body's my temple.

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Speaker 4: Good job, Thank you.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 4: All right, We've got plenty of news and notes to

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Speaker 3: Of course, there's a lot of buzz around the defensive

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Speaker 3: coordinator position interviews starting yesterday. According to Jerry Jones, nine

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Speaker 3: am Central Time is when he said it got going. Nick,

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Speaker 3: Do you did you hear anything based off of how

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Speaker 3: those interviews went, who those interviews were with, and where

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Speaker 6: Yeah, those interviews are still ongoing.

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Speaker 7: I don't think anything conclusive is going to come out

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Speaker 7: of anything until probably after tomorrow at the earliest. But yeah,

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Speaker 7: interviewing candidates for replace dan Quins since the last time

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Speaker 7: we talked to Dan Quinn taking the head coaching job

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Speaker 7: with the Commanders. Really fascinating how that all kind of

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Speaker 7: Cowboys do lose one assistant and one potential candidate in

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Speaker 7: their defensive coordinator search. He was slated to have an

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Speaker 6: I can't blame him for that.

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Speaker 7: And now you as far as in house candidates, you

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Speaker 7: at Mike Zimmer, you look at Ron Rivera. Those are

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Speaker 7: two that are in the building this week. It wouldn't

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Speaker 7: those are the names that are being thrown out.

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Speaker 6: I like them.

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Speaker 7: Mike Zimmer idea, I really do I want to start

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Speaker 7: with that. I think bringing him in would be an

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Speaker 7: interesting pairing with Mike McCarthy, the two half chemistry together.

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Speaker 7: Zimmer from his head coaching days, has a history of

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Speaker 7: putting together good defenses, and his defensive coordinator days has

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Speaker 7: a history of putting in good defenses. But the difference

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Speaker 7: for me is what he brings whenever he's running a defense,

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Speaker 7: and that's physicality, size and really focusing on stopping the run.

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Speaker 7: And I think later in his later days in Minnesota

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Speaker 7: think that's exactly what this team needs. I think that's

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Speaker 7: what Mike Zimmer brings. But that's just my opinion. What

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Speaker 5: I think those all valid points.

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Speaker 8: I think, yeah, I mean Zimmer in terms of his

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Speaker 8: hold him in high regard. He's a no nonsense type

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Speaker 8: not sure how that style of coaching works with this

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Speaker 8: it pertains to some of the some of these really

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Speaker 8: Coach Belichick obviously the goat and coaching is highly regarded

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Speaker 8: it and as that, but his style of coaching might

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Speaker 8: be the reason why he doesn't have a job right now. Players,

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Speaker 8: you know what I'm just saying, Like players, players are

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Speaker 8: more sensitive to hard coaching.

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Speaker 5: Now, that's just the reality that we're in. That's across

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Speaker 8: That's not just football, that's in all you sports and

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Speaker 8: all the way up to the NFL sports at times. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: it's just they're just not able to for in a majority, right,

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Speaker 8: not sure how that personality would do with his locker room.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 8: Can he change it, absolutely, But in terms of reception

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Speaker 8: That's what I'm more concerned about in terms of that

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Speaker 9: I kind of wonder though, what factors in with Mike Zimmer.

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Speaker 9: And then also Bill Belichick now looks like he possibly

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and I could see that being the same case

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Speaker 9: of Mike Zimmer because everything you said I agree with.

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Speaker 9: But I also think that he has to know that too.

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Speaker 9: some things. Yeah, but yeah, I agree. I agree with

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Speaker 9: round Rivera. Yeah, and I like I like the Zimmer higher.

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Speaker 9: I think that that fits with Mike McCarthy where they're at.

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Speaker 9: And then in terms of the Joe Witt going over

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Speaker 9: you want that person to be able to bring in

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Speaker 9: some of their own coaches too. So I'm not saying

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Speaker 9: that Joe Witt couldn't have worked with Mike Zimmer round Rivera.

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Speaker 1: So obviously he could.

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Speaker 9: But you're gonna want that coach to bring in some

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Speaker 9: people that he feels comfortable with too, that he's worked

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Speaker 9: think it comes down to those two, and I would

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Speaker 8: So how does the assistant's positions work now on the

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Speaker 8: defense side of the ball. Contractually, I remember you guys

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Speaker 8: or money's more.

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Speaker 7: Commanders can really only take one, and they took Joe

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Speaker 3: Well, and that's that's if he remains under contract with

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Speaker 3: But I don't see anybody, whether it's Ron Rivera, whether

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Speaker 8: Contractually, contractly, are they once you, once you make a

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they can request to interview guys, but that the

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Speaker 4: The show was over it the news broke was dan

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Speaker 3: Well, Isaiah, knowing that you only got these forty five

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Speaker 4: You can you can share your opinion.

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Speaker 8: Stand behind that Steel, still stand behind that. The name

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Speaker 3: I can't tell you how quickly Nick and I like

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Speaker 4: And so we're like, what is Isaiah doing?

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Speaker 5: That's okay?

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Speaker 5: I still stand behind that statement.

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Speaker 7: I actually have one question to add that I would

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Speaker 5: Preparation?

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Speaker 5: When he was coaching the Jets, hands down, regardless of personnel.

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Speaker 8: High energy guy, still discipline, allows guys to be themselves right,

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Speaker 8: But also again, havn't been in the league and haven't

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Speaker 8: never seen any offensive coordinator, head coach, quarterback have to

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Speaker 8: prepare more for any other decordinator outside of Rex Ryan.

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Speaker 8: Hands down, the stuff that he was bringing to the table,

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Speaker 1: Did you ever play the Patriots in your career?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was with the Giants, Okay.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I just can't believe that Rex Ryan would be

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Speaker 9: everybody used to just talk about constantly how it was

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Speaker 8: Real stuff wasn't complicated, It wasn't like it wasn't like

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Speaker 8: But Rex's stuff was just out of this world, out

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 8: There's gonna be guys that come and go, but the

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Speaker 8: it was like, all right, I'm running three safeties. We're like,

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Speaker 8: what the heck is, No, nobody runs three safeties. He did, right,

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Speaker 8: That's what worked for him. It was off the wall,

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Speaker 5: So when I think.

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Speaker 8: About Rex, like that, not Rob but Rex, Like, that's

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Speaker 8: I know there's a lot of other stuff that goes

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Speaker 3: I love all the elements that you're giving, and I

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Speaker 3: agree with you that a coordinator that will be brought

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Speaker 4: To have those elements.

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Speaker 3: But there's one missing element that has to be had

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Speaker 3: that trust with your head coach. Your head coach has

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Speaker 8: I get it sometimes and I get it. Trust me,

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Speaker 9: But I prevalence his job Isaiah at all.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, he wants the TV job.

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Speaker 4: To create opening here.

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Speaker 8: I've been here, I've been I've been on the thirteen

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Speaker 8: Long as we have a clear line that there's not

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Speaker 5: There's a whole locker.

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Speaker 8: Room of guys that come from different backgrounds, different beliefs,

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Speaker 5: Right, I don't. I don't came from where you come from. Right.

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Speaker 8: Very diverse, not not very diverse area of Seattle. Right,

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Speaker 8: I don't know nothing about you or where you come from. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: And it's not a come out yeah absolutely right, And

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Speaker 8: don't you know, like I don't believe what you believe.

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Speaker 8: Like we see, we don't see eye eye on any

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Speaker 8: We're together.

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Speaker 3: Hey, we don't see eye to eye on your take

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Speaker 4: We're on this show. That's what it's all about.

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Speaker 5: Perspectives. Maybe it's all different. It's awesome.

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Speaker 6: I just want to throw some numbers here.

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Speaker 7: Mike Zimmer in his twenty two years as a coordinator

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 6: It's just not I.

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Speaker 8: Get it this team specifically, I get it risk versus

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Speaker 8: and I could and I would feel that, And I

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Speaker 8: honestly feel the same way as we talk about a

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Speaker 8: Zimmer or Rivera and coming in here trying to coach

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Speaker 8: up with Michael Parsons, right, or some of these other

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Speaker 8: young superstars that probably don't want to hear nothing that

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Speaker 8: they got to say.

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Speaker 5: Don't like you gonna You're gonna curse me out? Like

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Speaker 5: are you serious?

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Speaker 8: Like some of these guys might have that response and

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Speaker 8: you might lose the locker room like like that if

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Speaker 8: you come in too strong.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that an indictment on the maturity level of your players?

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, But that's what you gotta deal with. That's what

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Speaker 8: you're catering to. That's what I'm saying, and that's the

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Speaker 8: reality that you're living in. So if you bring in

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Speaker 8: a Zimmer of Rivera those guys who were kind of

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Speaker 8: hard and those type of guys, and your players don't respond, well,

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Speaker 8: now what do you have?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I feel I agree with you if this was

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Speaker 9: a defense that needed to be fixed and then they

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Speaker 9: were going out to get a defense court like the

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Speaker 9: pieces are there. And then the other factor is that,

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Speaker 9: like I said, zim or not coaching the last two years,

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Speaker 9: I find it very hard to believe that he can

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Speaker 9: think that he's going to come in here and start

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Speaker 9: doing that like that. He isn't gonna have to kind

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Speaker 9: of fit in, like he's gonna have his way of

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Speaker 9: doing things, but he's gonna have to kind of fit

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Speaker 9: with what they have here. Because the key is that

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Speaker 9: is it is a talented defense. So it's not like

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Speaker 9: you got to like, basically what I'm saying, he's coming

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Speaker 9: in after Mike Nolan. Let's say he's the higher after

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty disaster. You can do a lot of crazy things,

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Speaker 9: but there's a lot of pieces that are working here

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Speaker 9: that I don't think he can come in and do that.

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Speaker 9: And that's on Jerry Jones, Mike McCarthy, whoever's in the

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Speaker 9: interview process to find out, Hey, what are you trying

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Speaker 9: to do? How can what you want to do fit

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Speaker 9: with what we want? And then they have to make

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Speaker 9: the best decision off that me. I believe though, just

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Speaker 9: because he has been out of the game for a

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Speaker 9: couple of years, that he'll be more willing to do

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Speaker 9: that maybe than he would have.

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Speaker 5: And that's the hope, Like that, Yeah, that's the hope.

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Speaker 5: I go to go off with what I've seen. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: No, I mean that's that's that's from all of our points, right,

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Speaker 8: I mean, for sure from the crazy Riggs Ryan idea,

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Speaker 8: it's it a crazy Zimmerman idea. Like I every guys

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Speaker 8: that I know who played for Zimmerman is just like, yeah,

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Speaker 8: he's a he's a.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, that's that's just what I

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Speaker 8: know about him, and what I know about him, I

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Speaker 8: know wouldn't work with some of the players that are

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Speaker 8: currently on this roster. If he's that same guy. Now,

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Speaker 8: we can hope that he's different over the last few years.

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Speaker 8: You know, I'm saying, maybe he's changed and maybe he

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Speaker 8: can bring a different approach, but what we've seen for

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Speaker 8: majority of it of his career, I'm not sure that

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Speaker 8: that personality works with what's currently on this rule.

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Speaker 1: He can make the argument that that's why Mike Raball

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a driver right now.

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Speaker 4: It's a good point.

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Speaker 5: A lot of the hard and those guys just aren't connecting.

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, it's just what it is.

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Speaker 4: Let's give some grades. We've got this this long list

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Speaker 4: of candidates, Mike Zimmer's on there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to talk about Rex

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Speaker 3: Ryan being on that we may we may do it

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Speaker 3: just for fun. Yeah, yeah, all these candidates top to bottom,

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Speaker 3: and both Nick and John have have released articles about

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Speaker 3: these different defensive coordinator candidates. What grade would you give

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Speaker 3: the higher if they up being the choice. We're gonna

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Speaker 5: I say, yeah, yes, sir man, I didn't Beamer. You

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Speaker 5: got something for me?

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Speaker 4: What he tried? You tried to take it up?

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Speaker 9: We did?

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Speaker 5: I did?

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Speaker 4: You tried through the alley oop.

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Speaker 3: When there was a little bit of a pause there

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Speaker 3: from Beamer, I thought he was going to come busting

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Speaker 3: through the door and just like lay down the Quaker

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Speaker 3: Oats on the table.

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Speaker 5: That had been awesome little brown sugar and raisings in

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Speaker 5: there I.

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Speaker 3: Had that the other day, did you Yeah, how'd you

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Speaker 3: work out?

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Speaker 5: Challenge going?

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Speaker 3: It was good up until this past weekend. It's been fine.

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Speaker 3: Outside of that, I am on track. I'm actually ahead

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Speaker 3: of schedule currently. I'm talking about so we're getting in

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Speaker 3: the right Red Bros.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, all right, let's talk about some grades, and these

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Speaker 16: are we will do report card grades for the entire

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Speaker 16: season once we know where the coordinators fall coaching Carosel

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Speaker 16: that kind of settles down.

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Speaker 4: That'll be a.

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Speaker 3: Later episode here I'll talking Cowboys, but today I want

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Speaker 3: to talk about what grades would you give the following

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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator higher if they indeed become the higher And

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Speaker 3: I'm taking these these guys' names from Nick Harris, John

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Speaker 3: Machoda Nick on Dallas Cowboys dot com com, John.

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Speaker 4: On the Athletic.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna start with Ron Rivera Riverboat Ron of course

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Speaker 3: most recently head coach with the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 4: Basically, it would be a trade Dan Quinn for Ron Rivera. Uh,

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Speaker 4: what grade would you give it?

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Speaker 3: John? If you're looking at what he brings to this

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Speaker 3: defense and how he would fit in and we're talking

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Speaker 3: aid to F scale, like a grade scale.

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Speaker 1: No, pluses or minuses. You can do plus Monk, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be it.

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Speaker 9: I'll probably be the highest on Round RIVERA anybody at

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Speaker 9: this table. So I'm gonna say be minus. I don't

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Speaker 9: think that just because it doesn't work out as a

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Speaker 9: head coach in you could make the argument the worst

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Speaker 9: situation if you think about who was the owner the

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Speaker 9: organization he stepped into. It's not like act like anybody's

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Speaker 9: just going in there and just fixing that. Oh no, no,

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Speaker 9: if you just if you just put Kyle Shannan back

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Speaker 9: in there, he would turn them in the Niners. So no,

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Speaker 9: he wouldn't have So yeah, yeah, he deserves something and

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Speaker 9: it's hard to get past. I have some of the

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Speaker 9: similar feelings I had about Dan Quinn in the sense

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Speaker 9: of I always kind of laugh at people that wanted

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Speaker 9: to ding his resume for the twenty eight to three

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Speaker 9: in the super Bowl because I can't get past the

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Speaker 9: he got the Atlanta Falcons to the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 9: so it's the same thing like he got the Carolina

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Speaker 9: Panthers to the Super Bowl with Ron Ree. Let's not

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Speaker 9: act like he can't coach. Okay, let's let's let's stop

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Speaker 9: with that. Like it's getting a little lot of control

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Speaker 9: on social media with some of that stuff. So I

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Speaker 9: don't think it would be an A. But out of

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Speaker 9: the candidates i've heard, I think he's the second best

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Speaker 9: choice because I have believed and I still do believe

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Speaker 9: that they will go with a former head coach because

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Speaker 9: they need somebody that can be the head coach of

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Speaker 9: the defense, and out of the candidates that are available

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Speaker 9: right now, I think he'd be the second best, so

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Speaker 9: be minus.

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Speaker 7: YEA for those exact same reasons, head coaching experience, just

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Speaker 7: what he's been able to do during his career, being

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Speaker 7: able to kind of fall back into a coordinator role.

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Speaker 6: I'd give it a BEE.

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Speaker 7: I think it's right and there in that range kind

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Speaker 7: of teetering on B plus but sitting at a B.

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Speaker 7: I think he'd be good for a culture fit as

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Speaker 7: well in the Dallas locker room. I'd be curious to

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Speaker 7: know what the interviews kind of come out of, though,

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Speaker 7: as far as where he's at in his career and

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Speaker 7: what he's still trying to accomplish and does he want

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Speaker 7: to be a head coach again. You know, there's a

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Speaker 7: lot of questions that I think would have to be

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Speaker 7: asked there. But he's sixty two years old. I mean,

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Speaker 7: there's still a lot left in his career. He's a

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Speaker 7: two time AP Coach of the Year. I mean, this

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Speaker 7: is a guy who's done it before, just had a

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Speaker 7: rough couple of years in Washington, and that's a tough

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Speaker 7: place to win. I want to give that little grace,

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Speaker 7: but also understand and realize that this last year was

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Speaker 7: really bad.

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Speaker 6: On the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 7: We granted they gave away to a really good defensive

665
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Speaker 7: lineman in the middle of the year, but wouldn't kind

666
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 7: of factor everything in. It Probably is a good time

667
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 7: for him to step back as a coordinator. I think

668
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 7: it would be an interesting hire. I wouldn't be sold

669
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 7: day one. I think with Zimmer I would be sold

670
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 7: earlier than I would be with Rivera. But give me

671
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 7: training camp and I could be sold on Ron Rivera

672
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 7: for sure.

673
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 4: What do you think He's a two time coach of

674
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 4: the Year.

675
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 5: I get it. I'm gonna see, I'm gonna see. I'm

676
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 5: just not excited about it.

677
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 6: Oh there you said, I'm going to see.

678
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 5: No, I'm gonna see.

679
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 8: There's nothing from my experience, from what I've watched on

680
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 8: film over these past you know, four plus years working

681
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 8: for the Boys, there's nothing that I've seen that's like,

682
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 8: oh man, yea, this defense is tough. Outside of the

683
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 8: personnel scheme wise, I don't see it.

684
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 5: I just don't.

685
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 3: Twenty thirteen, twenty fifteen, he won AP Coach of the Year.

686
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: He's one of three coaches since two thousand to win

687
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: multiple Coach of the Year wins Bill Belichick and Bruce

688
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 3: Arians or the other two. So, I mean, you have

689
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: the track record. Does he fit with this defense?

690
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 4: I don't know. I would probably stick with John. I

691
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 4: probably say like A B minus. I don't think it's

692
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 4: a C higher because I think if it's if it's

693
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 4: a C, you're kind of just your men.

694
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 5: You're at a C.

695
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 3: But it's definitely not an A higher. And I don't

696
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: think it's A high. I don't think there are any

697
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 3: a's out there. What about Mike Zimmer, that's the next

698
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: name on the list, Mike Zimmer. You guys have talked

699
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: about it significantly. What graade would you give it?

700
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 8: Isaiah B minus B minas it's a little bit higher

701
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 8: than a little bit higher, just because I mean, either

702
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 8: gonna either gonna hit with his style, or you're gonna

703
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 8: swing a miss in a major way and you're gonna

704
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 8: get a bunch of guys that are rejected and contracts

705
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,239
Speaker 8: coming up, not gonna want to stick around. Yeah, So

706
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 8: that's why I say personality is a big part of

707
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 8: this higher as well for me. So B minus just

708
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 8: because of his track record of defenses has been solid.

709
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 8: Is just this style that he brings. I'm not sure

710
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 8: that the creativeness is, but the discipline is definitely there,

711
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 8: So there's there's something to be said about that.

712
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 3: I mean, if you've talked about something that dan Quinn's

713
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: defenses have lacked, it would probably be discipline. So it

714
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: would fix one problem, maybe create another, but it would

715
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: still be I'd give it an a minus.

716
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 4: I really like the Mike Zimmer idea. I like how

717
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 4: much experience he has.

718
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: I like the trust that he and Mike McCarthy have together,

719
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: the way that they know each other both from a

720
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: strength standpoint and a weakness standpoint, because they've played against each.

721
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 5: Other so much. I like that.

722
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 8: I believe that's a certain extent, I honestly think that's

723
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 8: going to be the higher I.

724
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 5: Would give it.

725
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: I'd give it a low AA minus just because would

726
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: I rather have somebody else? Would I rather have Dan

727
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: Quinn in the building. Yes, But Mike Zimmer out of

728
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 3: the candidates that are available, that's the best candidate on

729
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: the block.

730
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm throwing to B plus and for me that's

731
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 7: the best candidate as well, and the best candidates to

732
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 7: be plus.

733
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: So completely agree.

734
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 9: I don't think there is an a candidate available. It

735
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 9: actually made me think, like, well, who is really an

736
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 9: a candidate And.

737
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 7: It's not realistic? Yeah yeah, it's Vrabel maybe, but like

738
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 7: it's not realistic.

739
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, I just I don't see anybody that would

740
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 9: be out there that you would sit there and say,

741
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 9: oh yeah, no, no, this is the no doubt, go

742
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 9: get person.

743
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: So I would say B plus.

744
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 9: But with that being said, to Nick's earlier point, I could.

745
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 9: I could after seeing training camp and you know, talking

746
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 9: with players and things like that, it could end up

747
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 9: being an a higher you know, if maybe there are

748
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 9: some tweaks there. The thing I keep going back to

749
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 9: is I just think that when you do something for

750
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 9: such a long time and then there's that period of

751
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 9: a couple of years where you don't get to do it,

752
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 9: I find it hard to believe that you just come

753
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 9: back and you don't do anything to change.

754
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: Also, I just.

755
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 9: Think that your hunger is very high, because there's probably

756
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 9: points in your life where you're thinking, well, I might

757
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 9: not get this opportunity again. So I think Mike Zimmer

758
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 9: would be very hungry.

759
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: What about Mike Rabel, You guys have talked about him

760
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: a little bit. I know it's not necessarily realistic higher,

761
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: but what would his grade b if he ended up

762
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: being the.

763
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 7: Choice I'm given a but it's just not gonna happen. Yeah,

764
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 7: it's just not gonna happen. I don't I don't see

765
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 7: Vrayebel stepping back into a coordinator role. He doesn't need

766
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 7: to if he did not get a head coaching opportunity.

767
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 6: I'd be surprised if he doesn't take a year off here.

768
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 9: I think if he got offered, ord he take it, Yeah,

769
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 9: would be a yeah, yeah, I mean it would be

770
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 9: a plus, no doubt about it. Outside of Isaiah's point

771
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 9: that if you're gonna come in here to misfite people,

772
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 9: I'm not saying he's gonna do it.

773
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: That's not gonna work, you know.

774
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 9: And and and to your point, like you could lose

775
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 9: it before you ever implement what you what you're trying

776
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 9: to get across.

777
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 3: And uh.

778
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: But again, the thing with him, why I don't think.

779
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 9: He would be like that is because I think he

780
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 9: would look at it as only one year, Like I'm

781
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 9: just trying to do this for a year. There's gonna

782
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 9: be good talent around me. I'm trying to get back

783
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 9: into that head coaching cycle next year.

784
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 8: So yes, I mean the thing is, I know I'm

785
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 8: probably thinking about this morning a lot of others.

786
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 5: Or maybe not.

787
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 8: This hire is directly tied to your ability to resign Micah.

788
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: Why do you say that.

789
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 8: Micah came in under dan Quinn. Dan Quinn's gone, Okay,

790
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 8: he loves the Cowboys. I think he loves money more yep, So.

791
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: You can't you can't make he can't make any more

792
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: money than he can from the Cowboys.

793
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 8: Absolutely, so why who could give.

794
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: Him more money?

795
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 9: I mean, you're way beyond it goes it goes way

796
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 9: beyond down the field though, I'm talking about like the

797
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 9: money Deck Prescott makes off the field.

798
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: The money you can make.

799
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 9: Off you can't do it anywhere.

800
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 8: Absolutely, I totally agree with you, very aware or something

801
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 8: like that. So but you have to love where you work.

802
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 8: You have to love where your work, especially as a player. Like,

803
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 8: as a player, you gotta love waking up and going

804
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 8: and sitting in meeting rooms with somebody every day, and

805
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 8: that environment that you're in every day, you have to

806
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 8: love that. From a player's perspective, just telling you, guys,

807
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 8: and if you don't, life sucks.

808
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 5: Life sucks.

809
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 8: And you know what, I'd rather go take the check

810
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 8: for somebody else then to sit around and deal with

811
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 8: that every day. I'll find another way or I guess what,

812
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 8: I'll just make my money. My money will make money. Well,

813
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 8: I'm just I'm just telling you, Like, from the player's perspective,

814
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 8: this hire is directly tied to whether or not the

815
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 8: position that you're gonna put yourself in to be able

816
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 8: to resign Micah. If it's not an environment that's that's

817
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 8: conducive for him to thrive and to love to show

818
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 8: up to every day, you're gonna you're gonna take a hit,

819
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 8: and you're I'm just telling you, you're going to take

820
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 8: a hit. You're running the risk of not bringing him back.

821
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 9: And I understand what you're saying, but I'd also argue

822
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 9: that we're seeing a change in the NFL from the

823
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 9: NFL you played in. And one of the differences is is.

824
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: In the coaching.

825
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 9: And and I'm not just talking about the way that

826
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 9: the coach is coach if I'm talking about their longevity.

827
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 9: We've seen what Frank Wright, We've seen with Steve Wilkes.

828
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 9: It's those days are done where you're like, oh, we

829
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 9: got a new head coach. Oh he's gonna be here

830
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 9: for three or four years or eleven games, or is

831
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 9: it He's gone at the end of the year. Like

832
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 9: so you can go sign up with somebody. I think

833
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 9: you're getting what you what you want, and then all

834
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 9: of a sudden it changes on you too. From what

835
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,239
Speaker 9: Michael Parson wants. I find it hard to believe he's

836
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 9: gonna find that anywhere else but Dallas.

837
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 7: I mean, honestly, a couple of floors above us. So

838
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 7: these interviews going on, it's just pull up a chair

839
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 7: for Micah, you know, since.

840
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: You gotta build it around him.

841
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 7: I understand where you're coming from. To a certain extent,

842
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 7: I don't think the coordinator. I think that it's more

843
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 7: pertinent on the coordinator higher being able to use Micah

844
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 7: correctly rather than a piece to Micah, right, And I

845
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 7: think I think that's probably a bigger, bigger factor you'd

846
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 7: have to play in. I don't need a coordinator to

847
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 7: be Micah's best friend.

848
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I'm not asking for that.

849
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 8: But I'm saying about like the environment, like a dan

850
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 8: Quinn environment, like you you knew what it.

851
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 5: Was going to be, You're going to want to show up.

852
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 8: I want to show up like like I want to

853
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 8: talk to you, like I want to have like we're

854
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 8: gonna have fun, like we're gonna be turning up on

855
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 8: the sideline, like I want that.

856
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 9: To his point though, if if I understand what you're saying,

857
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 9: but to his point, if if you're putting me in

858
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 9: the best position to have my best year, like if

859
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 9: my because you talk about pulling up a chair right

860
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 9: now with Micah, if I'm sitting down with any of

861
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 9: these dcs, one of the I mean, I think the

862
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 9: first thing I'm asking is how you use the Micae parsons.

863
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 5: What you're playing for Mike absolutely, and.

864
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 9: So even if the meetings might not be fun and

865
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 9: the prices are fun, if he's putting you in position

866
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 9: to where you're getting seventeen eighteen twenty sex he'll deal

867
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 9: with all that.

868
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 8: I don't disagree with you, but I just know that

869
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 8: environment is a big part of that as well.

870
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: It will be a big part of it, and that's

871
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 4: part of why this is.

872
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: Such a tough decision for the front office.

873
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 4: And maybe they are involving Micah in that process.

874
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: But I also that sound Mike McCarthy though too.

875
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 9: I think one of the best things Mike McCarthy's done

876
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 9: is with the environment around here. I do think that

877
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 9: if you I prefer off the record because you'll get

878
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 9: you would get the more truth out of players. I

879
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 9: believe off the record you'd get glowing reviews about playing

880
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 9: for Mike McCarthy, especially these last three years. The way

881
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 9: he takes care of him during the week, their practice schedule,

882
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 9: things like that, the way he treats him, the way

883
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 9: he schedules.

884
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: Meetings, things like that. He's very, very player friendly.

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Speaker 9: And so I think for what you're saying, I think,

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Speaker 9: doing all this, because this way you're gonna have to

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Speaker 9: that has the factor.

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Speaker 4: In, and it does. It certainly does.

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Speaker 4: Are you going to I don't know if there's one

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Speaker 7: I think, Bamer, that's a negative Beamer probably took him

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Speaker 7: out after I exploded one all over the desk here

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Speaker 7: that one time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think Derek took it out after that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Probably no web cream allowed in here either. From the

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Speaker 6: Eddy Eddie who.

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Super Bowl Sunday coming up this week. It's the

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Speaker 3: forty nine Ers and the Chiefs at Allegiant Stadium in

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas.

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Speaker 4: What is the number one thing.

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Speaker 3: You've learned from how these two teams got here that

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Speaker 3: you could apply to the Dallas Cowboys?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Why are you looking at me?

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Speaker 4: I just felt like you would have an answer that.

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Speaker 7: Size and physicality. I mean, I think that's probably the

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Speaker 7: biggest thing. Consistent offensive line play, a consistent running game.

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Speaker 7: I I think that's been really huge for both of

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Speaker 7: these teams, especially like you've got Isaiah Pachecko, a seventh

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Speaker 7: round pick, and what he's been able to do in

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Speaker 7: the playoffs specifically, I mean when they need a first

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Speaker 7: down ears three arts, I mean, he gets it done.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 7: I think that's definitely something that you would look at

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Speaker 7: and you would hope to be able to accomplish. But

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Speaker 7: I think there's more you can learn off of the

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Speaker 7: Lions if you're talking about the Cowboys specifically from a

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Speaker 7: running game standpoint, because they added both of those guys

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Speaker 7: during the offseason, David Montgomery and Jamier Gibbs, and they

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Speaker 7: were able to bring that running game to the forefront

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Speaker 7: and did what they did. But I think mainly being

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Speaker 7: able to just have size on both sides of the ball,

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Speaker 7: offensive line play, that's the biggest thing for me.

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Speaker 6: And then some guy named Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: That's why it's so tough for me to even compare

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Speaker 1: anything to Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: It's time.

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Speaker 9: I mean, if you want me to, oh, what's the

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Speaker 9: kind of how do you get like kannas sty get lucky?

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Speaker 9: I mean seriously, like he covers up so many things.

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Speaker 9: Like you can disagree with me, but I don't know

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Speaker 9: that Isaiah pa Checko has the season he's on right

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Speaker 9: now if he played this year for the Cowboys, you know,

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Speaker 9: I mean he's in the probably not. You know, you

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Speaker 9: play with Mahomes. It opens a lot of things up

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Speaker 9: for a lot of people. Makes a lot of people. Look,

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Speaker 9: I mean, we're watching I sincerely believe we're watching you know,

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Speaker 9: Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Tom Brady in their prime right now,

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Speaker 9: like he is just a one off, so's whole. It's

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Speaker 9: so difficult for me to compare. And Andy Reid deserves

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Speaker 9: a lot of credit obviously, Like it's not like Patrick

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Speaker 9: Mahomes is just going to go out there by himself.

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Speaker 9: But it's so hard to compare anything and be like, well,

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Speaker 9: you got to do this because this is what the

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Speaker 9: Chiefs do. Okay, well give this team Mahomes and let's

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Speaker 9: see what happens. Like so I look towards San Francisco

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Speaker 9: and it's a lot of stuff that Isaiah said throughout

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Speaker 9: the season about you know, the physicality the defense, being

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Speaker 9: able to stop the run, being able to run the football.

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Speaker 9: I mean, Jerry said it at the Senior Bowl. It's

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Speaker 9: the being able to stop the run and being able

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Speaker 9: to run the football. And it's so basic. That's leather

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Speaker 9: football helmets, you know, that's whatever you know that goes

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Speaker 9: back as long as the game has been around. So

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Speaker 9: the Niners, when you look at it, it's like so obvious.

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Speaker 9: They're this big, physical team. They've been in your way

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Speaker 9: the last three years. For the Cowboys. The only way

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Speaker 9: I see you've beaten them is getting better at stopping

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Speaker 9: the run or running the football.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, trenches, Yeah, sending it all year long. Trenches matter,

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Speaker 8: and that's what you've seen in the last four teams

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Speaker 8: that were in the championship games. And that's what you're

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Speaker 8: seeing in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: How you watching the game Sunday? It is a big

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl event, guys.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna sit down on the couch like normal and chill.

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Speaker 4: Why you ignored my event to our super Bowl party?

1036
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Speaker 4: So why you ignored the invite to the.

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl party?

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Speaker 8: No, I I'll be chilling, man, I'll be chilling.

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Speaker 5: Enjoy.

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Speaker 8: I got bout myself a TV this year, so I'm

1041
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Speaker 8: sitting with your go to food.

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Speaker 5: I'm not. I don't make like a big event of it.

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Speaker 5: To be honest with you, I really don't.

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Speaker 3: Know smoke mac and cheese, Nope, nope.

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Speaker 9: I hate the big I only want to be around

1046
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Speaker 9: like hardcore football. I have no time for anybody that

1047
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Speaker 9: wants talking about the commercials. I would prefer to watch

1048
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Speaker 9: the game by myself over being around a big group

1049
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Speaker 9: people that are want to complain to me about Taylor

1050
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Speaker 9: Swift being shown too much.

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Speaker 1: I just want to watch.

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Speaker 8: I literally haven't thought about the game being this week.

1053
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Speaker 8: I legitly, I haven't got that way.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that is?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I really don't know.

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Speaker 8: I went last year, I've went, I went to a

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Speaker 8: few of the last few ones where I was down

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Speaker 8: there kind of in the environment.

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Speaker 5: I just feel really detached from it this year, So

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It's funny I kind of feel the same way.

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Speaker 3: It may be the fallout of what happened with what

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Speaker 3: happened with the Cowboys as one thing for me, because

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Speaker 3: I mean, we spend all seasons. We started training camp,

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Speaker 3: we start even before training teams, and you're getting into

1066
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Speaker 3: it and you're talking about possibilities, you're talking about growth,

1067
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Speaker 3: you're talking about setups, and then you have it all

1068
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Speaker 3: come crashing down over the matter of two quarters. Ultimately,

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Speaker 3: is what it took to take all of that work

1070
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Speaker 3: and throw it down. So yeah, I've watched the games.

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Speaker 3: I've gone back and really searched what happened in the

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Speaker 3: NFC and AFC Championship games. But as far as the

1073
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Speaker 3: excitement for an entertainment value of the Super Bowl this year,

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Speaker 3: it's just not there for me. And maybe it's just

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Speaker 3: a byproduct of that, and maybe I just needed a

1076
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Speaker 3: little bit.

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Speaker 5: Of a break.

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Speaker 9: I'm interested to hear other reviews are from the people

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Speaker 9: that go to Las Vegas, because the way it's set up,

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Speaker 9: if you've ever been to Vegas, it seems like it's

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Speaker 9: like the perfect spot to host this type of event.

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Speaker 9: And I would think if it got into a regular

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Speaker 9: rotation of just four or five cities, it would certainly

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Speaker 9: be one of those in there.

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Speaker 1: So I'm interested to.

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Speaker 9: Hear the feedback because I think up until that point,

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Speaker 9: a lot of people talk a big about New Orleans

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Speaker 9: being a great spot for it. I would completely agree

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Speaker 9: about that, and then obviously I see La being in

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Speaker 9: the mix all the time. But you know, for any

1091
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Speaker 9: of us that have been to that stadium, that stadium

1092
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Speaker 9: is not within walking distance. That's the thing that makes

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Speaker 9: those events the best, like New Orleans like like, I

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Speaker 9: could see Vegas being indies like that too for the

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Speaker 9: contents Why I love the Indies that the combine staying

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Speaker 9: it's like walkable to the stadium, to the hotels, convention center,

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Speaker 9: all that stuff like that. So I bet you the

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Speaker 9: only way that Vegas won't get good reviews is if

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Speaker 9: it's just so overcrowded because it's a first flooding.

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Speaker 4: The flooding out there too is played a bit of

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Speaker 4: an impact.

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00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: And the weather isn't like great weather.

1104
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 9: It's I think in the fifties or whatever like that,

1105
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 9: but it's not, you know, seventies, eighties or whatever like that.

1106
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: But I do think.

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00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 9: If you were going to the game or you were

1108
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 9: in Vegas right now, I think you probably feel a

1109
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 9: little bit different about it.

1110
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 5: I think Dallas gets another one, Oh they will, yeah,

1111
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 5: the stadium.

1112
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, I think we'll getting their Super Bowl.

1113
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, Reunion Arena exactly.

1114
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: No, and they build a new stadium out this way.

1115
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 9: You know something we don't know, but nothing whatever, surprise me.

1116
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 9: That's five years from now. He's start breaking around. Like

1117
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 9: in prosper.

1118
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 4: Solana Stadium up there.

1119
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 9: Imagine what would you do with AT and T Stadium

1120
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 9: if you move to Cowboys up the Arlington.

1121
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 4: Renegades would move play over there and they keep up grading.

1122
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, for real champs.

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Speaker 7: Jerry Jones talked about that a little bit on Sunday,

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00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 7: which I guess can kind of segue into our talking

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Speaker 7: about AT and T Stadium getting nine World Cup games.

1126
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Speaker 7: In twenty twenty six. That's gonna be a huge event.

1127
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 7: But he talked about he was asked about, do you

1128
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 7: think there's an opportunity here if you have a good

1129
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 7: run with these nine games, to have a better pitch

1130
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 7: first super Bowl next time around, And he said, yeah,

1131
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 7: we're always trying to get a Super Bowl here.

1132
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 6: So the renovations is already starting at AT and T Stadium.

1133
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 7: Whenever me and Guy went on Sunday, you can kind

1134
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 7: of see it already beginning on the outer work of

1135
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 7: AT and T.

1136
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 6: And they're gonna do a lot of work to the

1137
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 6: suite levels.

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00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: As well, chairs covered and like some draping down on

1139
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: the field and stuff.

1140
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 7: So yeah, and Jerry Jones said, you know, ten fifteen

1141
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 7: years after the stadium has been built, you know, we're

1142
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 7: trying to continue to make it look like the newest

1143
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 7: thing out there. So I think that's kind of the

1144
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 7: intention behind getting the World Cup in Arlington as well.

1145
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 7: We'll kind of see how that plays out, but if

1146
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 7: it goes well, then you know, that's just another you know,

1147
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 7: charity point. I guess you could say onto AT and

1148
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 7: T Stadium being able to host a Super Bowl, And

1149
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 7: he compared having nine World Cup games to having nine

1150
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 7: Super Bowls, So it's it's gonna be big events.

1151
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 4: He's not far off. He's really not.

1152
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 7: I mean, when you look at the grand scheme of

1153
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 7: things and specifically what countries would be able to come

1154
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 7: and play in those games, it's gonna be a big deal.

1155
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 7: And they're gonna get an opportunity to kind of get

1156
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 7: a preface of that with the Copa America Games next summer.

1157
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's it's gonna to be a big deal.

1158
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 3: Well, and it may not be nine Super Bowls, but

1159
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: it might be the four group stage matches that might

1160
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 3: be four NFC Championship Game calibers, and then you've got

1161
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 3: the final group stage match, which is going to decide

1162
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 3: who's going on.

1163
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 4: To theout stage.

1164
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 5: Be huge, honestly.

1165
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 3: Well, the semi final will be the biggest the world.

1166
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 8: People coming all over the world. That's the difference. That's

1167
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 8: the big difference. Like people forget people in America, forget

1168
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 8: how big soccer is internationally, and DFW is one of

1169
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 8: the best international airports.

1170
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 6: So yeah, semi final is going to be a huge deal.

1171
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 7: They get a semi final and I believe three other

1172
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 7: elimination games. So regardless, they're going to get some big

1173
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 7: time games.

1174
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 3: All of those will be bigger than the Super Bowl,

1175
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: based off of fair revenue, based off of merchandising, both

1176
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: based off of exposure, viewership, all of it.

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00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be big time.

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Speaker 9: I don't know why, but I'm so fascinated about the

1179
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 9: whole playing surface thing because I am stars and just

1180
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 9: seeing like the renderings of what it will have to

1181
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 9: be like, because the grass will have to be built

1182
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 9: up on top of a thing that will take out

1183
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 9: like the first two or three rows of AT and

1184
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 9: T Stadium, And I just find it interesting because of

1185
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 9: the fact of, like, do we get to a point

1186
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 9: in the NFL where they require every stadium to have

1187
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 9: natural grass? I'm interested to see how. One because obviously

1188
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 9: for an NFL game you wouldn't have to build it

1189
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 9: up like that, you could have it on the playing services.

1190
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: But one, I'm interested to see how the grass holds up.

1191
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 9: And then two, is this something that could be sustainable

1192
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 9: going forward for the NFL because obviously all the players

1193
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 9: prefer to play on grass. Could that ever change in

1194
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 9: AT and T Stadium. I can't see it happening, but

1195
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 9: I'm interested in that whole thing, like, how are you

1196
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 9: going to have this natural grass here for nine games?

1197
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Speaker 1: And then how does it hold up?

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Speaker 9: Because like for Allegiance, I'm pretty sure that when they

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Speaker 9: have college games and other games, I'm pretty sure they

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Speaker 9: play on turf.

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Speaker 1: So like yesterday when.

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Speaker 9: They did the media day thing there, I'm pretty sure

1203
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Speaker 9: they had the turf field in, so, like the actual

1204
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 9: Super Bowl field is outside because it has to be

1205
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Speaker 9: growing then the natural grass and then it like slides

1206
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 9: in kind of like Arizona Stadium does, where it grows

1207
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Speaker 9: it outside like that, and so sometimes that runs into

1208
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 9: problems because once you move it inside there can be

1209
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 9: condensation things like that, and then all of a sudden,

1210
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 9: if it's slippery and guys are all over the place.

1211
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 9: If that's going to be the case, and we'll play

1212
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 9: on turf type thing, you know, but if it's going

1213
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 9: to be sustainable, it'd be fascinating to see if this

1214
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 9: whole thing works out for them, because that's that's gonna

1215
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 9: be such a big thing for people that don't really

1216
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 9: like love soccer. It's going to be like, oh my god,

1217
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 9: like this playing service is terrible. They should never have

1218
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Speaker 9: had it at this stadium. Or that stadium or whatever

1219
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 9: like that.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be a big deal.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, grass science.

1222
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how we end up on talking grass. I

1223
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: mean cowboys, I mean.

1224
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 9: I don't know, they get a better expert in that

1225
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 9: field than somebody that's in this building right now, Mike McCarthy.

1226
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 9: Mike McCarthy. Yeah, if you start talking about grass with him,

1227
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Speaker 9: I mean, he can break it all down. He can

1228
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 9: tell you all different types, what kinds he prefers for, cleats,

1229
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 9: all those things like that. That's why I mean, he

1230
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 9: prefers to practice sign grass as much as possible.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I tried to come to push the the

1232
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 7: what's what's the word I'm I'm looking for push the anyway,

1233
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 7: I try to ask Jerry Jones about how much work

1234
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 7: will go into the stadium and and his walk off

1235
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 7: after the World Cup thing, and I was like, how

1236
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 7: much work is really going to go into being able

1237
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 7: to fit fee for regulations from a widening standpoint and

1238
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 7: then putting natural grass down.

1239
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Speaker 6: He's like, yoh, well, you know it's gonna be a

1240
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 6: hefty penny. Well, but we could pay the check.

1241
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 7: I was like, how much work is going to go

1242
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 7: into it? He's like it's gonna be a lot of work.

1243
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 7: And I was like, all right, a year.

1244
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Speaker 9: Right, But even be a finalist to whole host that

1245
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 9: last game, I would have I would hope that they

1246
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 9: had to have a detailed plan that was put out

1247
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 9: at the big front of whatever committee had to look

1248
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 9: at it like this is how we can make it work,

1249
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 9: because that's the thing. Like, as far as I'm concerned,

1250
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 9: because I'm not a super big soccer fan, but I'm

1251
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 9: pretty sure soccer's always played on grass, at least big

1252
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 9: games like that, Yeah, they prefer playing grassy. And so

1253
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 9: when you see some of these venues up for it

1254
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 9: that are technically indoors, you're just kind of like, okay,

1255
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 9: well that's got to be a stretch for them to

1256
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 9: be willing to be like, oh yeah, no, no, we'll

1257
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 9: host it here inside. Like I mean, yeah, that's a

1258
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 9: big deal.

1259
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 4: It is a big deal. We can't wait to see

1260
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 4: how it really turns out.

1261
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 3: And really what the new ounces of this World Cup

1262
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 3: are gonna look like.

1263
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Speaker 1: But we do know you guys think you'll go to

1264
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: any games?

1265
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 4: Oh heck, yeah, I'm going to games. I've already told

1266
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Speaker 4: my wife.

1267
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Speaker 1: I was like, we're going to bankrupt to get there,

1268
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: the children.

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Speaker 5: It happened.

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00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 4: To get all five of us there. It's done.

1271
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sorry, college funds, it's over with. We will

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1273
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