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It's ticketmaster 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: dot com slash Falcons. Let's get to it. Who, well, welcome, 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: first of all to Atlanta. This is your first full 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: day here, I know it. Who knows when this is 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: going to drop? 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: But yeah, we're recording this right before Rookie Mini Camp starts. 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: So technically you were in Atlanta, but not necessarily for 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: a full day. 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: You're in and out really. 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 4: Quickly, in and out. 19 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: Pretty crazy day. Talk to a lot of people. 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 4: It was busy. 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: Were even here for twenty four hours when you came. 22 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 4: After just about barely barely yeah, barely maybe three day? 23 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: Right. We are going to start by going back to 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: your childhood though, Becaseys, we warned you, this is about 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: getting to know you and not the present day. You 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: are a coach's son, and your first steps were on 27 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: a football field, not just a football field, into the 28 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: into the zone. 29 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: I talked to your dad about that when when y'all 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: were here, and I was like, is this I read? 31 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: I read it somewhere and I was like, is it 32 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: true that his first steps were into an end zone? 33 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: And he was like, oh, yeah, that's true. He was like, 34 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: I needed him to walk that day. So we walked 35 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: into the end zone. 36 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 3: It was great. 37 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, But for what Terren's alluding to, Your dad coach football, 38 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: played football. Football always been a part of your life. 39 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: What was it like kind of growing up as a 40 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: coach's kid, as a coach's kid myself. I know, we're 41 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: a very intriguing group, an intriguing bunch for you being 42 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: a part of football every day of your life. 43 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: Like, what memories do you have of that time period? 44 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 4: I mean, it was it was good for me. You 45 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 4: know at a young age. You know some things that 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 4: my dad he was teaching me that I probably didn't 47 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 4: understand that at the time. You know, how tough he 48 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 4: was on me in different situations, Like my dad he'll 49 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: bench me if I'm not playing good, like, so it 50 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 4: wasn't like I was just on the field because I was. 51 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 4: I was his son. You know, I had to earn it. 52 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 4: I had to work hard, you know, and you know 53 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 4: for me, I was I was trying to be the 54 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 4: best player on the field, you know. So it was 55 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 4: fun though, you know, he definitely pushed me. He brought 56 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 4: out the best of me at a very young age. 57 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 4: And you you spoke about how my first steps was 58 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 4: on the football fit well in the end zone and 59 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 4: my dad said that I needed to walk walk that 60 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: day and that that's kind of funny because that's how 61 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: my all my family is. That's like my whole family, 62 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: you know, like if it's something that they want the 63 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: kids to do, like you gonna do it. And so 64 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: it's whenever you said that, he was like, I'm gonna 65 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 4: walk that day. Like it was funny because I remember 66 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 4: like growing up, like we used to have my uncle 67 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 4: used to have a pool and all the family used 68 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 4: to go and like that just throw the kids in 69 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 4: the water and be like you're gonna swim to like 70 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 4: you learn, so you learn real fast. So it's been good. 71 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: Good do you have I mean having been a part 72 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: of the game and your dad having such a history. 73 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: He was a running back right right when he was 74 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 2: in his youth. Not not to date him or anything 75 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: like that, but in his youth. What do you think 76 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: what skill sets do you think transferred from from your 77 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: dad to you? Do you think have you all ever 78 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: talked about that? 79 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: Not much? You know, I feel like athleticism, you know, toughness. 80 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 4: My mom she was an athlete too, she ran track. 81 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 4: So you know, I don't know who I got to 82 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 4: speed from or who who I got to running abilities from. 83 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: But I'll say just all my athletic abilities came from 84 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 4: both of them and my dad, and I heard he 85 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 4: had a lot of them. 86 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: So was not playing football ever an option? No, you're 87 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: gonna play football. 88 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 4: I like it. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't like that, 89 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: you know, from my dad. But like for me, like 90 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 4: that's how much I liked the game, That's how much 91 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 4: I was around it. So it was like for me, 92 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 4: I knew I was gonna always play football. I played 93 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 4: all the other sports too, but like I knew I 94 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: was never gonna stop playing football. 95 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, your dad said. When I talked to him, he 96 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, he was born to love the game. 97 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: That's that's essentially he was like we always felt that. 98 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: Something that I found really interesting when I was having 99 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: a conversation with your brother was y'all had a pretty 100 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: big backyard in Dade City, and it was one of 101 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: those things where every single family member that I talked 102 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: to of yours was like, Michael always wanted to be 103 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: outside and it would like hurt him to his core 104 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: if he couldn't go outside. 105 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: What was so. 106 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: Interesting, too, is your brother said that before he came along, 107 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: and this is this is what he said he was 108 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: like before he before he came along. I know, before 109 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: he came along, you didn't really have anybody to throw to, 110 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: so you threw to the family dog. 111 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: Is that a correct story from your childhood? 112 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: And once he did come along, how much did it 113 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: help kind of having having a brother there. 114 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: To I mean, it's true, you know, I remember I 115 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 4: used to play football with my dog in the house, 116 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: like he had chased me. I'll chase him. I tackle 117 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 4: and like a dog at that, Like I don't know, 118 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 4: like that's who That's who I was always with. You know, 119 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 4: he was my first dog. And you know, but whenever 120 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 4: my brother he started getting noticed, definitely better, you know, 121 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 4: to have somebody you know. But like, yeah, I was. 122 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 4: I was always trying to do something. I was always 123 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 4: trying to be outside or find ways to you know, 124 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 4: do something fun. And that's what was fun to me, 125 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: you know, being outside and playing sports. 126 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: So being the dog person I am. I need to 127 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: know what kind it was. It was the stuff for bulletaria, 128 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: So I was picturing air bud. Actually he would you 129 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: and what. 130 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 4: I don't think he ever really tackled. I think I 131 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 4: like fake getting tackled by him, but I'll tackle. I 132 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: remember tackling him though he had take the ball and 133 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 4: run away from me. So good. 134 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: Now, you can't tell your story without talking about Date City, 135 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: And in your Player Tribune article you kind of talked 136 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: about like adversity was in the water there, and I 137 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: thought that was so eloquently put. 138 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: As a writer. Yeah, that was so good. 139 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: But what was really interesting? 140 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 2: You know, as much as Dade City is a part 141 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 2: of your life in your childhood, it took you going 142 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: to Tampa to really truly step into the spotlight a 143 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: little bit. Your your family talked a lot about that 144 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: move from from one place to the other and how 145 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: important that move was and how essentially they did it 146 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 2: for your career. And at the time, you know, you're 147 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: you're just a kid, you know, you're just a teenager. 148 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: You're trying to figure things out for yourself. But there's 149 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: like this this ability and shine kind of within you. 150 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: It just was a matter of other people saying it. 151 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: What do you remember about about that time and maybe 152 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: even the sacrifices that your family made to put you 153 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: in a position to essentially put you on a path 154 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: to get to where you are now. 155 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 4: Right. I always mentioned that, you know, I appreciate my 156 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 4: parents for the sacrifices they made for me, you know, 157 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 4: and you know it's true, like I feel like if 158 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 4: I didn't get out of Day's City, I probably wouldn't 159 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 4: be right here right now, you know. But you know, 160 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 4: I feel like everything happen for a reason. You know. 161 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 4: That's why. You know, I had two younger brothers in 162 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: the house. One of my cousins, she stayed with me 163 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: as well, you know, so it's like they they had 164 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 4: to move because of me, you know. So it's like 165 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: you know, they they lost friends or they disconnected from 166 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: friends and stuff like that, but they always supported me, 167 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 4: and I was always there for me. So you know, 168 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: I'm just truly best to have a family with that support, 169 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 4: and you know, that's that wants to see see me 170 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: and my brother succeed, you know. But it was it 171 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: was tough for me too. You know. I had a 172 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 4: lot of friends back in day City, you know that 173 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 4: that I had to leave, and you know, I don't 174 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 4: really have as closer relationships with now, you know, but 175 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 4: you know, but I mean if it wasn't for it, 176 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: I don't feel like i'd be here today. So I'm 177 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 4: blessed for it. 178 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: Do you think you understood the magnitude of that decision 179 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: at the time. 180 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 4: No, I didn't, because the only thing I really thought 181 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 4: about was, you know, because of the offense we were running. 182 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 4: We were running like the wing t offense in day 183 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 4: City with that team, you know, and for me, I 184 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 4: was like, Okay, let's just move to another school close by, 185 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 4: you know, but we ended up going the next city away, 186 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 4: so that was I was like, I didn't understand that 187 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 4: at first, you know, but you know, once I got there, 188 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 4: it was like the competition level was better, you know, 189 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: coaching it was a little bit better. You know. It 190 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 4: was just a lot of different things that helped me, 191 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: you know, improve as a player. You know, so I 192 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 4: kind of realized that towards the end of my high 193 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 4: school career. 194 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: That's definitely that's a lot to put on a kid. 195 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: But like when you say, like hindsight twenty twenty, it's 196 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: just if you hadn't done that, like you said, you 197 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't probably be here do your did your siblings ever, Like, 198 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: how did you feel knowing that you were uprooting their 199 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: life too, especially being younger? 200 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I wasn't thinking about it at that age, 201 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 4: you know, but but they I. 202 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: Mean, I mean, there are literally no right I know 203 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: that matters. It's amazing how one decision can shape multiple 204 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: lives so many different ways. 205 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 4: It's true, you know, but even even like my little 206 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 4: brother as well, you know, I feel like moving like 207 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 4: him being out in Tampa playing there, he had an 208 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 4: opportunity to go to college as well, and my younger 209 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 4: brother I know he will too later on. So it's like, 210 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 4: I mean, eventually it is helping all of us, you know. 211 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, your mom made the comments, she was like I 212 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: asked her, She's like, you know, at the time it was. 213 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: Really hard, it was really difficult. But she was like, but. 214 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: Looking back on it now, like I'd make that decision 215 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: every single time, because you do what you got to 216 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 2: do to put yourself and put your children in the 217 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: best position for them. And that was something that I 218 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: thought was very well said on her part, for sure, 219 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: because at the time she was like, at the time, 220 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: not a lot of. 221 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: People were doing that. 222 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: But now it's become more of a commonplace to make 223 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: that move. But let's fast forward pick it up, right, Yeah, 224 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: let's happen to address it. 225 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: But because it's just so fascinating. 226 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was such a big part of like the 227 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 2: conversations that I had with your parents too, about how 228 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: how important that time period was for for you and 229 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: for them. Right, but let's go to your college days. 230 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: Let's go to Indiana. I know obviously, like things weren't 231 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: always easy, I said, pick it up at the wrong time. 232 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, we had to discuss it, right, I mean, 233 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 2: things weren't always easy. But what did you learn about 234 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: yourself during your years at Indiana? 235 00:10:53,120 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 4: Oh, I feel like I learned. I don't know, so, 236 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: like growing up, I just remember, like my dad he 237 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 4: used to always be like you you tough, like like 238 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 4: you gotta be tough, like that's that's something that he 239 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 4: always said. And then growing up it was like you 240 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 4: never quit anything. Like if you start something, you gonna 241 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 4: finish it. So like those two things always, uh was 242 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: in my head, you know, going going throughout my whole career, 243 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 4: you know, even to now, you know, so it was 244 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 4: like whenever I was facing those hard times and throughout 245 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 4: the injuries and stuff like that, you know, that always 246 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 4: replayed in my head. You know, I knew, I knew 247 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 4: I was tough. I knew I can get through any obstacle, 248 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 4: and you know I knew I wasn't gonna quit, you know, 249 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: so you know, for me to have that and then 250 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 4: also just my two younger brothers, I as my wife, 251 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 4: you know, the reason that I do everything, you know, 252 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 4: knowing that they're looking up to me in those hard times, 253 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 4: like and seeing their brother you know, come out on top, 254 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 4: you know, and continue to do do good things each 255 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 4: and every time. You know that. I feel like that 256 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: show showed them a lot of things too, so you 257 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 4: know I wasn't just doing it for myself, you know, 258 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 4: And and that's what that's what I feel like, help 259 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 4: help me get over you know, the hump of of 260 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 4: those hard tough days, just knowing that I wasn't doing 261 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 4: it for myself, you know, I was doing it for 262 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 4: a bigger purpose and people around me. 263 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: So there was a quote and it was it really 264 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: stuck out to me. It was about like your injuries 265 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: at the time. And you said there were times when 266 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: I'd wake up the day of the game and I'd 267 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: wait until my roommate leaves and I'd just lie on 268 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: the floor and I just cry to God, praying that 269 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: he'd protect me that day. I knew where my head 270 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: was at at the time. How tough did those moments 271 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: get because that quote just shows it was a struggle. Yeah, 272 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: and how much like especially may days. Yeah, what was 273 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: that like pulling yourself out of those funk moments? 274 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 4: Oh it was hard. It was really hard. I don't know. 275 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: And it but as you said, like was it your 276 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: brothers and knowing like your dad's phrase of push through 277 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: tough times. 278 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 4: I mean at that time it was tough because always, 279 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 4: like growing up, I was always going to church, you know, 280 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 4: I believed in God, and you know, but I feel 281 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: like at that point of time, of my life. I 282 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 4: was questioning some of the things that he was doing 283 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 4: in my life, you know, because I didn't understand. I 284 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 4: didn't see it right right now, right in that moment, 285 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 4: you know. But like I had other like different scriptures 286 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 4: that helped me, you know, get through those times. Jeremiah 287 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 4: twenty nine to eleven. I was that's my favorite script, 288 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 4: my favorite verse. You know, I tatted it on me. 289 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 4: So it's like, you know, different things like that, you know. 290 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 4: But I feel like for me, it was tough because 291 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 4: you know, me knowing that I believe in God. You know, 292 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 4: my dad he used to always tell us never question God, 293 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 4: you know, never question what he's doing, you know, because 294 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 4: you know he has a plan for you, you know. 295 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 4: And at that time, I was, you know, even though 296 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 4: I was I was crying myself. I was like crying 297 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 4: before the games, like, you know, just trying my best 298 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 4: to trust and just believe that everything's gonna be okay. 299 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 4: But deep down inside, you know, I wasn't confident, you know, 300 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 4: and that that was the hardest part about it, because 301 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: deep down inside I always felt I always felt like 302 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 4: I was just scared that for it to happen again, 303 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 4: you know, even though I was praying and I was 304 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 4: saying I believed, and you know, we wanted to and 305 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 4: feel that. You know, it was still tough because when 306 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 4: I when I was stepping on the field, I was 307 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 4: like just nervous that it was gonna be my last 308 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 4: time on the field again. So it was tough. 309 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: When do you feel like you got the confidence back? 310 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: Like when at what point do you look back on 311 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: your story? And it was almost like maybe not even 312 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: a flip switch, because I feel like sometimes gaining confidence 313 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: back can be more of. 314 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: A gradual thing. 315 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: But right, yeah, but but is there kind of a 316 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: point in time where you look back and you're like, 317 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: that's when things shifted. 318 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 4: I'll say, like right before fall camp in twenty twenty two, 319 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 4: when I got to Washington. You know, I feel like 320 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 4: that because you know, since college I enrolled, I enrolled 321 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 4: early in college, so I was there in January. I 322 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 4: did spring my first year before I was technically a freshman, 323 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 4: you know, so so I had an off season then, 324 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 4: you know, and I felt really good. And then ever 325 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: since then, I never had another off season, you know, 326 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 4: throughout my career until twenty twenty two season when I 327 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 4: transferred to Washington so after that off season, you know, 328 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 4: I felt strong again. I felt I felt I felt good, 329 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: you know, and you know, I haven't felt like that 330 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 4: going into a fall camp since since I first got 331 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 4: to college. So once I was feeling that, you know, 332 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 4: I felt good, I was like, Okay, it's go time, 333 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 4: you know, I was ready to go. 334 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: So at that time, there's a quote where you said 335 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: that when you went to Washington, your mind and body 336 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: was healed. When you kind of think back to that time, 337 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: what was it about Washington, whether it be your teammates, 338 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 2: whether it be your coaches, whether it just be the 339 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: growth that you experienced and the maturity that you experienced 340 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: through what you had to go through Indiana. What helped 341 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: that healing process for you. Oh and maybe it's a 342 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: little bit about the off season. 343 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I really feel like it was the off season, 344 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 4: you know, because like I was able to get that 345 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 4: confidence back in off season, you know, because like if 346 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 4: you think about it, like if you're going into each 347 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 4: year like every I was not cleared in fall camp 348 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 4: for four years straight. At the beginning of fall camp, 349 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 4: which is a month before the first game, I was 350 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 4: not cleared for four years straight. So it's like think 351 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 4: about it all summer. I can't do certain things with 352 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 4: the team. I can't do certain lifts, I can't do 353 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 4: certain things, so like I feel weak as I'm trying. 354 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 4: I'm still trying to get stronger, trying to get back, 355 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 4: you know, but I'm still not even clear a week before, 356 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: a month before the get before the first game, so 357 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 4: it's like I'm playing catch up the whole time, and 358 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: it's like I never really got to that point where, 359 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 4: you know, I felt okay, I feel good, I feel strong, 360 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 4: Like it's like, Okay, I'm coming off a cl injury, 361 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 4: but I'm not cleared until a week before the game. 362 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 4: So it's like I feel that, you know, I can 363 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 4: feel that, you know, I feel it's not as confident 364 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 4: to plan on that leg. I'm not as confident to 365 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 4: do certain things. So it's like it was tough for me, 366 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 4: you know, to be able to go out and play 367 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 4: and put on, you know, the performance that I wanted 368 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 4: to put on because I was I was weak. I 369 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 4: was weak. 370 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: So were there nerves that first season at Washington or 371 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: was it kind of like once you got that off 372 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: season in that fall camp and we're healthy, you were 373 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: just ready to go. 374 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 4: I was ready. I've never been nervous. I've never been nervous, 375 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 4: you know, but I was just ready to go. Yeah. 376 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 4: I felt good and I was like, it's just go time. 377 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: So how much fun did you have just being back 378 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: out there and doing what you knew you were capable of. 379 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was real fun, you know, and obviously winning 380 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 4: football games it's fun. It helps you, yeah, but you know, 381 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 4: but it was it was it was what I what 382 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 4: I've been missing, you know, And I was, you know, 383 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 4: just blessed to be able to be back and that 384 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 4: had space back in that you know, that mode again, 385 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 4: you know, because it took a while for me to 386 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 4: get back there, you know, but you know, I feel 387 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: like everything I've been through, it it helped shape me 388 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 4: up to the person the player I am today. You know. 389 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 4: I always say that, you know, and you know, but 390 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 4: I'm just blessed for the opportunity to be able to 391 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 4: be sitting right here, you know today, you know, because 392 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 4: I know, I feel like a lot of that stuff 393 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 4: helped helped me, you know, prepare for you know, what's 394 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 4: to come, you know, and I feel like I'll be 395 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 4: ready for anything that comes my way. 396 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 2: It's fun because you know, we can sit here and 397 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 2: talk about like that Washington team over the last couple 398 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: of years, like all day long, but you were in it. 399 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: You were in it with these guys, and I think 400 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: from the outside looking in, for me personally watching y'all play, 401 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: it felt like y'all had so many intangibles that to 402 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: a certain extent, separated you guys from your competition at times. 403 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 2: What was it about the team around you that truly 404 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: put y'all on the path to success that y'all saw 405 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: in a time where you know, Washington, the University of 406 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: Washington reaches heights as a football program that you know, 407 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 2: haven't really seen before. 408 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 4: So when I first got there, I kind of noticed, 409 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 4: you know, that that we had some special you know, 410 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 4: I feel like so like going into it. When I 411 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 4: first got to Washington, it was a four and eight 412 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 4: team before I got there, But whenever we was in 413 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 4: workouts and going through all the off season stuff, it 414 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 4: didn't feel like a foreign eight team. It felt like 415 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 4: a team that was ready to compete for playoffs, championship. 416 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 4: So it's like I was like, whenever I got there, 417 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 4: I'm like seeing the work that the guys were putting 418 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 4: in I'm like, Okay, this this team, they're all in. 419 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 4: You know, it's a group of guys that that's ready 420 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 4: to do great things. You know, so it felt good 421 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 4: to see that. So I feel like that that is 422 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: part of it, you know, just everybody being all in, 423 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 4: you know, adjusting to the new coaching staff, you know, 424 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: listening and you know, taking on all the challenges you 425 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 4: know head first, you know that the coaching staff had 426 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 4: presented to us. You know, I feel like everybody went 427 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 4: about their business and a professional mannering. And also I 428 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 4: feel like the team we had were just close, you know, 429 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 4: just we were hanging out out side of the building, 430 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 4: you know, not just said practice. You know, you got 431 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 4: guys you know, going bowling, you got guys going fishing, golfing, 432 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 4: like just all all types of things that guys are 433 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 4: doing away from the facilities, you know, just bringing everybody together. 434 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 4: You know, I feel like we were so close knit 435 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 4: that you know, it was like when we stepped out 436 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 4: on the field, you know, we were going to war 437 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,239 Speaker 4: for each other. You know, we were going to lay 438 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 4: it all on the line because we knew that the 439 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 4: person next to us was going to do the same, 440 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 4: you know, So I feel like that that's what helped 441 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 4: us a lot too. 442 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: Almost y'all had the chance to experience almost everything that 443 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 2: a college football team could experience together, especially this this 444 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: past year. Was there anything that kind of caught you 445 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: by surprise that was a very special moment that looking back, 446 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: you're like, that's something I'll never forget. 447 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 4: I won't say nothing coming about surprise. You know. I 448 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 4: feel like everything that we accomplished, we we saw it coming, 449 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 4: you know. But I don't know if I say anything 450 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 4: took me by surprise. 451 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: Right, anything special from that time that Like, it's just 452 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: kind of one of those stories that you'll you'll kind 453 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: of look back on and be like, I'll remember that. 454 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 4: I don't know, Like we just had so many moments. 455 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard fish, Yeah, fishing, the golfing, all that 456 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. 457 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: No, I get it. 458 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 3: It's like everything just kind of all encompasses. Yeah, I 459 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: want to. 460 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: Go back to college. Oh, clearly, we already know so 461 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: much about you because your story has been told. You've 462 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: told your story. Yeah, is there anything that people don't 463 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: know or is there anything that you want people to 464 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: know about you? 465 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 4: Oh? I like to show people. 466 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: Oh look at that. 467 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 4: I just like to show people. I don't really, I 468 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 4: just like to show people. 469 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a job. 470 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, show don't tell. 471 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: I love that. I think that's a great great note. 472 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 3: Should we go in? 473 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: We can't. 474 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 2: I know that was so good. I could just be like, 475 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 2: all right and thank you for joining us. No, we 476 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: have one more segment on the show and then we'll 477 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: let you go. 478 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: We do it with everyone. It's just like five rapid 479 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: fire questions and they should be easy. We'll say. He's like, 480 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: oh no, no, these are He's trying to look all right. 481 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: What is your favorite play of your career? And this 482 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: can be high school, it can be college. 483 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: It a favorite dog, favorite play bringing it back full circle? 484 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 4: My favorite player of my career. M hmm, I'll say 485 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 4: against Oregon m twenty twenty two, the whole shot to 486 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: Todd Davis. 487 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: Nice. 488 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that was my favorite. 489 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: I like it. 490 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 4: Disappointed the game the job before. I made a bad 491 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 4: decision in the red zone through it picked came back. 492 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 4: You know, made a good play, we got to go 493 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 4: ahead touchdown and don't win it. 494 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: So resilience and it's finest. We love that. Okay, favorite 495 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: player of any sport growing. 496 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 4: Up, favorite player. 497 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: Yep, you had a yeah, because I think there was 498 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: a picture of you that I saw. 499 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: What were they worn? 500 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 3: No, like he had the Michael pick clean Yeah, like 501 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 3: he had. 502 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: Year old no no, no, like Mike. 503 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: All right that I know. 504 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, we're moving past it. 505 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: We're moving on TV show or movie that you would 506 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 2: recommend to the people listening. I know that things are 507 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: busy right now, so you may not have a ton 508 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: of TV time, but if you could recommend something. 509 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 4: TV show or movie, I want to see it. I say, that's. 510 00:23:59,160 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: A good one. 511 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't think we've had someone recommend oz Art, 512 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: but it's good. I also, gosh, we've heard gosh, I 513 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 2: don't even know. We've heard so many different ones a 514 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: lot of movies. Empire was a big one for some guys. 515 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: Entourage was a good one for some guys. 516 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 3: What was the one that Yeah, someone was. 517 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: Like, I can't think of it, it's not PG. 518 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Tyler Algier also was recommending like anime, so. 519 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: Not on the anime track. 520 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: I also am sorry, Tyler, if you're listening, we've. 521 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: Got in a big range. Some people said reality TV, 522 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: so don't worrys Yeah, it's too late. 523 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 3: It's too cringey. 524 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: It's reality TV for a reason, but it's not. 525 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 3: Like it's scripted. 526 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: No, I do not want to be friends with those people. 527 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: Okay, Taren, If you could have any superpower, what would 528 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: it be and why? 529 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 4: Ah? 530 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: Teleportation yep, yes, the number one answer on this podcast. 531 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: Especially because we're in Atlanta. 532 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 3: Yep. 533 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: Traffic. 534 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 3: You'll get to know real there. 535 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 4: I'm not going down. 536 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: He's like, I'm living out here in Flowery all right. 537 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: That brings us to the very last one, obviously moving 538 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 2: to Atlanta or the greater Atlanta area or you know 539 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 2: Flowery Branch Buford all the way out here. What is 540 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 2: something that you're mostly looking forward to about moving to 541 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: Atlanta because you know Tampa boy. 542 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 4: Really, I'm looking forward to the house. It's fun. 543 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: Do you have like something you require that is in 544 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: this house? Yeah? 545 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: What's your what's the non negotiable for for the home 546 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 2: of Michael pennockx Junior? 547 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: Ah? 548 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 2: Pool? 549 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially in these summers. 550 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 4: I want to pool. 551 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he dealt with Florida summers. 552 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: I know I was going to be like, he hasn't 553 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 3: been in Washington for that long. I want I want 554 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 3: to pool though, nice I love it. I hope you 555 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 3: find it. 556 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: Build it were building because. 557 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 4: One of the places I saw there didn't have a 558 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 4: pool that I liked. I liked the place where they 559 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 4: didn't have a pool, so I was. 560 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: Like, did I have a space for a pool space? 561 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 4: So positively, I don't know. 562 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 3: TVD we'll have you back on the podcast. 563 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: You can update us on on the pool parties all 564 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. 565 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: You know, there is a reality TV on TV Realistic. 566 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 4: See if it's something like that, I understand, but like, 567 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 4: I don't want to trash any of the shows. You're 568 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 4: not You're not gonna my girlfriend like watches like The 569 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 4: Bachelor like stuff like that. 570 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: Okay, really love show. 571 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Love is Blind, Love Island. 572 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think like that stuff is crange. 573 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 2: I mean, hi, I love it, But I also am 574 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 2: the type of person that I'm like holding a pillow 575 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: in front of my face, like I. 576 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: Can't watch it. 577 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah crazy. I here like just going on in 578 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 4: the background. 579 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're like. 580 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: All past, please put the subtitles on a mute. Oh man, Well, 581 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 2: this is fun conversation. And we know you got a busy, 582 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 2: busy day, head, busy weekend, ahead. 583 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: So thank you so much for chatting with us. 584 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining Falcons and Focus, which, speaking of, 585 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: everyone should like and subscribe on all of podcast platforms 586 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: that you can find the Atlanta The Falcons podcast Network, Spotify, YouTube, Apple, yep, 587 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: I think the big those are the big three we know. 588 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 3: Love it. 589 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. 590 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Thank you for having me