Speaker 1: Look out his only films to be buried with. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a director, a flying trapeze artist, and I love films.
Speaker 1: As Mike Tyson once said, I'm a dreamer. I have
Speaker 1: to dream and reach for the stars, and if I
Speaker 1: miss a star, I grab a handful of clouds. Speaking
Speaker 1: of stars, watching Lily James in Muma Mia two really
Speaker 1: showed me what a movie style performance looks like. And
Speaker 1: it's not easy. She's absolutely brilliant. She is brilliant. Mike Tyson,
Speaker 1: You're not wrong. Every week I invite a special guest over.
Speaker 1: I tell them they've died. Then I get them to
Speaker 1: discuss their life through the films that meant the most
Speaker 1: of them. Previous guests include Sharon Stone, Kevin Smith, Edgar Wright,
Speaker 1: James a Castor, and even Dead Dambels. This week, it's
Speaker 1: the brilliant Sketcho stand up and award winning writer Rose Johnson.
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Speaker 1: so Rose Johnson. Rose Johnson is a brilliant sketcho, stand
Speaker 1: up actor, writer, and one of my favorite people. She's
Speaker 1: the final part of the Birthday Girls trilogy I have
Speaker 1: been waiting to complete. We've had Bat Edmondson, and we've
Speaker 1: had Camere lu Chan and now we finally get the
Speaker 1: brilliant Rose Johnson. We recorded it on Zoom and it
Speaker 1: was so much fun. Rose is absolutely brilliant. I think
Speaker 1: you're going to love this one. So that is it
Speaker 1: for now. I very much hope you enjoy episode one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty four of Films to be Buried With. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is
Speaker 1: me Brett Goldstein and i I'm joined today by an actor,
Speaker 1: a writer, a novelist, a sketch a commercial actor, a
Speaker 1: stand up comedian, a woman, a hero, and one of
Speaker 1: my favorite people. Please welcome to this show. It's the
Speaker 1: brilliant Rasanna Johnson. Hi, thanks for having me. I want
Speaker 1: to be rest. You said actor and then commercial actor.
Speaker 1: You think it was the wrong order, Well, I would say,
Speaker 1: do you consider commercial acting like different to normal acting?
Speaker 1: You're like, that's not I have to mention that separately. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. And I
Speaker 1: mean this truly. I have nothing but major respects for
Speaker 1: commercial acting because I genuinely don't think I could do it.
Speaker 1: I think it's a higher art. Like I've seen you,
Speaker 1: I make you do all yourself dates for me, and
Speaker 1: it blows my mind because I just don't think I
Speaker 1: could pull it off as convincingly. I think it's genuinely brilliant.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you wanted them that much, you would,
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I could do the face
Speaker 1: that you have to do when you like sniff a
Speaker 1: bun or something. Oh yeah, See, that's my absolute forte.
Speaker 1: I'm more successful in commercials than I am in any
Speaker 1: other sphere. Can we for the patron I want to
Speaker 1: give them like a special gift on the visuals? If you,
Speaker 1: if you, if you get the video, can you show
Speaker 1: us you've picked up a bun and you sniff it
Speaker 1: and you cannot believe your luck? Okay, my phone's the bun. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's fucking magnificent. The thing is, though I would say,
Speaker 1: that's not even my niche. My niche is react is
Speaker 1: like funny faces. So my my reaction would be I
Speaker 1: pick up the barn and like, there's a tiny gorilla
Speaker 1: on it. Don't ask me why, but it's something. It's
Speaker 1: gorilla buns were some ad some ad agencies come up
Speaker 1: with a thing that's like the thing is, there's going
Speaker 1: to be a gorilla on the bun, and I pick
Speaker 1: it up and I'm like, I'm going to about to
Speaker 1: eat this bun and there's a grill on it already. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, if you've ever thought I'm not going
Speaker 1: to turn up for the patron, now's the day to
Speaker 1: see the magic and wonder of rose spotting a gorilla
Speaker 1: on a bun. Yeah, anything like that. It's my forte
Speaker 1: had to do one this morning self tape. Please tell
Speaker 1: me nothing like it. Well, just waking up of a
Speaker 1: morning on the weekend, like open your eyes, bird to
Speaker 1: sing in sunshining. Oh, I'm gonna have a nice lazy morning.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I forgot. I've got a self tape for
Speaker 1: an adverse ding on Monday. Put up my sad backdrop
Speaker 1: in my living room. You gotta put up a big
Speaker 1: backdrop because the casting directors they can't be seeing inside
Speaker 1: your house. They can't imagine. They've got to have a
Speaker 1: plain backdrop. They can't if there's a sofa in there
Speaker 1: in the frame, they cannot see you as the gorilla
Speaker 1: Bungo exactly so far. No, no, she has to have
Speaker 1: a plain gray background. You'd be like, hoist up your
Speaker 1: sad background, put your ring light on, put your makeup on.
Speaker 1: In this one, I had to dress up as an electrician. Well,
Speaker 1: I wore jeans and then a blue fleece which was
Speaker 1: actually outstanding, really good. Had to do. Yeah, I had
Speaker 1: to do some really prime faces and that one a lower,
Speaker 1: some big reactions. So you're an electrician who's finding stuff
Speaker 1: on the ways, like what was the okay? So the
Speaker 1: thing is, I don't think I can tell you the
Speaker 1: premise of the advert because it hasn't been out yet,
Speaker 1: but basically, an electrician turns up to a job and
Speaker 1: then something very wacky and unexpected happens on his job.
Speaker 1: The electrician is surprised. Any dialogue or just faces, Yeah, dialogue,
Speaker 1: I had to say, get ready for it. Okay, so
Speaker 1: I'll do it. And then but halfway through I see
Speaker 1: the wacky thing. Okay, so someone someone saying something and
Speaker 1: I go, yeah, I shouldn't be a problem. It's so
Speaker 1: good what she's doing. Here's what I described for the listener.
Speaker 1: She's she's saying there's not going to be a problem.
Speaker 1: And then it's very quickly caught her attention that there
Speaker 1: might actually be a problem and just trying to keep
Speaker 1: it under a hat in front of the customer. But
Speaker 1: it's also clear like don't follow her eyes or you'll
Speaker 1: see what the problem is. Yeah, whatever you're selling, I'm
Speaker 1: buying it, Rose, Okay, good. Yeah, So I did all that. Obviously,
Speaker 1: my poor husband Daniel Cook is having to read in
Speaker 1: the lines. He doesn't want to be doing that on
Speaker 1: a Saturday morning. And then classic forgot to do an ident.
Speaker 1: For those of you who are listening who don't know
Speaker 1: what an ident is, it's where you've got to do
Speaker 1: say your name, your agent, where you're based, or what
Speaker 1: commercials you've done, blah blah blah. So I'd already got
Speaker 1: changed out of my actrician outfit, had to put the
Speaker 1: electrician outfit back on, put the hoist, my sad back
Speaker 1: drop back up to do the ident. Did that, took
Speaker 1: it all down again, got changed, realized I hadn't said
Speaker 1: my agent on the ident, how to do it all again?
Speaker 1: Just a real boy, sad background. You're hoisting around what's
Speaker 1: on it. It's like a big sheet of gray material
Speaker 1: that you put up behind you, so your house isn't
Speaker 1: in the shop. So but then I think it's mad
Speaker 1: because I'm like, you know that this is a self tape.
Speaker 1: You know that I'm doing this at home. But they can't.
Speaker 1: They You gotta have a plain background, yeah, because if
Speaker 1: it doesn't match. You know, if you've got a background
Speaker 1: and they're thinking you're an electrician, but in your background
Speaker 1: you've got I don't know, lots of wood perhaps, and
Speaker 1: they're thinking, what is your carpent? What electricians don't like wood?
Speaker 1: I don't know. In their head they're going, well, she's
Speaker 1: good with woods's I don't know if she's good with electrics.
Speaker 1: I think for your commercials, especially if you're having to
Speaker 1: use your imagination, you're not the right person for the job.
Speaker 1: So they need to look at you because you've got
Speaker 1: like twenty seconds haven't you really to go like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's the character, that's the you know straight away. So
Speaker 1: if they're having to be like, m well, but there's like,
Speaker 1: for example, in my living room, might I've got a
Speaker 1: pink velvet sofa, So they might be going I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to imagine that's not there. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying electricians can't have pink velvet sofas. Good luck anyone can.
Speaker 1: Didn't think I was going to have a pink velvet
Speaker 1: sofa until there I was in DFS and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I guess that's what I've I've bought a pink velvet sofa.
Speaker 1: I guess that's a bit of me. You thought, well yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean i'd say to anyone listening, it's a curse.
Speaker 1: Don't do it constantly thinking I'm going to be dropping
Speaker 1: stuff when it have dropped stuff on it, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just a nightmare. I basically just covered it all
Speaker 1: up with throws now because it's can't even appreciate the
Speaker 1: pink pink throws, No, not even pink throws, darker colored throws.
Speaker 1: It's not Yeah, that's really that stress, isn't It's depressing
Speaker 1: getting those stuff. That's why I only wear black t
Speaker 1: shirts because I can just absolutely kate them and ship
Speaker 1: and now I know tell me this, I know, I
Speaker 1: tell you something that I now try to take into
Speaker 1: like as an inspirational thing. I hate doing idents on
Speaker 1: self tapes. It's literally my worst thing. My worst thing
Speaker 1: is introducing myself in like you know, and like in
Speaker 1: a circle, maybe a read through or a new job.
Speaker 1: Let's just go around and say say our name. Genuinely,
Speaker 1: I think that's I have like close to a panic
Speaker 1: attack because you're thinking, do I make this funny? To
Speaker 1: I just be straight, like, oh god, that's so stressful.
Speaker 1: And when you have to go your ident before you
Speaker 1: do a selta, if it self takes good, I reckon
Speaker 1: I can lose it on the ident because I look
Speaker 1: so awkward. Same, Oh, but do you know what? You
Speaker 1: can put the ident at the end apparently nice, so
Speaker 1: you can they can see the scene first and then
Speaker 1: spoiler at the end. Once I got so, I'm exactly
Speaker 1: the same, get so stressed out about when next going
Speaker 1: around the circle. I once accidentally introduced myself as Toes
Speaker 1: said Toes on Toes during lockdown, you did what so
Speaker 1: many people threatened to do it. Literally, no, one don't
Speaker 1: know actually did, which is write a fucking novel? You
Speaker 1: write a novel? Yeah I did. It's mad congratulation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. How was it? Yeah? I had started writing
Speaker 1: it before Lockdown, but I had written about ten thousand words,
Speaker 1: so a novel was about one hundred thousand words. So
Speaker 1: I'd written a bit of it and I hadn't really
Speaker 1: planned it. And then in Lockdown when everything stopped and
Speaker 1: our industry just shut down, and I, obviously as a
Speaker 1: massive catastrophizer, was like, well that was a nice career.
Speaker 1: I guess I'll have to retrain. What's my normal fullback? Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: I work in restaurants. Oh they're all all close to okay,
Speaker 1: cool cook cook coo coo coo coo coo cool. So
Speaker 1: I had a break I sort of like yeah breakdown
Speaker 1: where I was just like it's all over. And then
Speaker 1: I was like I have to I'm someone that needs
Speaker 1: to be busy. I've got to have a task. I
Speaker 1: can't just sit at home and be like, well, I
Speaker 1: can't just submit to fate. I was like, I need
Speaker 1: to do something. Whereas my husband dad and you remember
Speaker 1: in the first Lockdown, it was so nice and sunny.
Speaker 1: He was just like, I'm just gonna sunbathe all day,
Speaker 1: and I'm fine with that. I was like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: going to sit inside in like my weird, damp spare
Speaker 1: room writing a novel that's set in winter. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I needed, Yeah, I needed a project. And I mean,
Speaker 1: it's an insane thing to do to write a novel.
Speaker 1: It's mad, it's so long. Yeah, But then I also
Speaker 1: would say it sort of started off you. It's almost
Speaker 1: like you sort of like have a dare with yourself
Speaker 1: where you're like, I just imagine if I just wrote
Speaker 1: this as if I was writing a full novel. Imagine
Speaker 1: if I like, just imagine if I just did that,
Speaker 1: and I just assumed that I was doing that. And
Speaker 1: then the look, the further along you get, you're like,
Speaker 1: I am doing that, and then you sort of make
Speaker 1: a dare with yourself a bet with yourself too, and
Speaker 1: you're sort of like it was a really good exercise
Speaker 1: in just doing things that seem unachievable and going which
Speaker 1: I'm not very good at. Normally, I don't finish projects.
Speaker 1: I have loads of ideas, I start them, I don't
Speaker 1: finish them. It was such a good exercise in just
Speaker 1: like making a bet on yourself and going, imagine, just
Speaker 1: just pretend to be a person that believes in themselves
Speaker 1: and just does this. Right, that's so fucking cool. You
Speaker 1: should give a ted talk. That is a really really
Speaker 1: really good right, it's tip that is great. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: But then I read it. When I finished it and
Speaker 1: I reread it, I was like, this is dogshit. You
Speaker 1: shouldn't she shouldn't have taken the bet. Yeah, Like it's
Speaker 1: a mad thing to do. And but I would also
Speaker 1: say it's the thing that I've done. The reason why
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. It's like it's hard, obviously because there's
Speaker 1: so much you have to produce the volume of stuff
Speaker 1: that it can't all be amazing. You have to just
Speaker 1: you can't stop and agonize over every sentence. You have
Speaker 1: to just get in flow, I guess, and just write.
Speaker 1: But I would say that it's the thing that I've
Speaker 1: done where I have most just been able to use
Speaker 1: my voice and not have to wait for anyone to
Speaker 1: give me permission. Like in Telly, you're just constantly being like, well,
Speaker 1: this is what it will be like, it will be good,
Speaker 1: it will be good. I will do this thing and
Speaker 1: this is what it will be like, and you're having
Speaker 1: to wait for someone to say yes, okay, you can
Speaker 1: do this. Like first stage, you can do a proposal
Speaker 1: and then or you can do an outline, and then
Speaker 1: you can do a script and then all of those
Speaker 1: points there will be feedback and there will be criticism,
Speaker 1: and there will be notes, and you have to change
Speaker 1: the thing that was your first idea, not for the worst,
Speaker 1: often for the better, sometimes for the worst. But it's
Speaker 1: lots of voices and it's lots of people that you're
Speaker 1: trying to please, whereas when you write a novel, it's
Speaker 1: just your voice and you don't have any feedback really,
Speaker 1: and so that as well as incredibly rewarding. As someone
Speaker 1: who's not really been able to do that before, and
Speaker 1: obviously the pandemic wasn't really doing stand up, I'd say
Speaker 1: stand up is also a similar thing. Although with stand
Speaker 1: up I would say no, because you get an immediate
Speaker 1: response from Yeah, you get immediate feedback from the audience.
Speaker 1: You know if something isn't working, whereas with the novel,
Speaker 1: like I said, you're taking a bet, you're going, well,
Speaker 1: this might be ship, but I'm going to finish it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, m right, I've forgotten to tell you something. Fuck,
Speaker 1: it's bad because you've just done that cell tape as
Speaker 1: well and your books. You just your book might be
Speaker 1: coming out soon and it's a shame. But it kind
Speaker 1: of depends on how you feel about these things. But
Speaker 1: I should have told you maybe before I ask what
Speaker 1: you've been up to, because this is probably more um,
Speaker 1: what's the word pressing? Pressing, it's more a bit more pressing.
Speaker 1: You you died? Oh no oh no oh, yeah you've died,
Speaker 1: and how did you die? Okay, Now I'd love to
Speaker 1: just say piece in my sleep, but just because of
Speaker 1: like how things happen in my life, I'm almost certain
Speaker 1: it would be one of those really embarrassing deaths, like
Speaker 1: did you read that news story about that guy who
Speaker 1: they found inside a dinosaur statue in Spain and hed
Speaker 1: gone in to get his phone and got stuck and
Speaker 1: just died in this statue. And I think it will
Speaker 1: be something like that. And the one I was thinking
Speaker 1: of is did you see that news story a few
Speaker 1: years ago about a girl at a festival who dropped
Speaker 1: her phone in a porterloo down the portaloo and then
Speaker 1: she went in to get it and got stuck and
Speaker 1: the fire brigade had to get her out, and then
Speaker 1: she was called pooh girl. Oh good. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's going to be something like that, and it'll probably
Speaker 1: be like I've dropped my phone somewhere and I've gone
Speaker 1: to get it, and then I've got stuck and I've died,
Speaker 1: and it's like and no, and then like basically, the
Speaker 1: sadness of me having died is overshadowed by like the
Speaker 1: stupid nature of my death, the ridiculous nature of my death.
Speaker 1: So you went down to Portloo and got stuck, but yeah,
Speaker 1: with your head in the pooh yeah. To give you
Speaker 1: an example, on my wedding day, I was really looking
Speaker 1: forward to. I wanted to have like a really small wedding.
Speaker 1: I was like, let's just go to a registry office,
Speaker 1: book a PA have a party. My husband to be
Speaker 1: he was like, no, I will have a big do,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, yeah, and he's organizing that. Then
Speaker 1: muggins this control freak over here. Yes, exactly, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be absolutely horrible. So yeah, obviously I lost my mind
Speaker 1: organizing it. And but one of the things I was
Speaker 1: really looking forward to, I was like Oh. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to that moment where I get
Speaker 1: to the top of the aisle and he'll say something
Speaker 1: to me. And I was like, I want to know
Speaker 1: what he'll say say to me, Oh, you mean like
Speaker 1: the quietly thing he sort of quietly says to you,
Speaker 1: not in yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought that will
Speaker 1: be a lovely moment. Yeah. And I got to the
Speaker 1: top of the aisle and we were getting married in
Speaker 1: a theater down in in in Dorset, in this place
Speaker 1: called Lime readus. It's a theater called the Marine Theater.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful if you're thinking of getting married by the sea.
Speaker 1: I got to the top of the aisle and went
Speaker 1: to go up the steps and tripped over, just fell,
Speaker 1: just tripped, tripped onto the tripped onto the stage. Didn't
Speaker 1: hear anything. The thing I heard him say was oh,
Speaker 1: are you okay? But what you heard was caring. You
Speaker 1: heard him caring for you, Brad. It wasn't what I wanted.
Speaker 1: And I just think like, as life milestones go, the
Speaker 1: death's going to be it's going to be something like
Speaker 1: either yeah, getting stuck in a portoloo after my phone
Speaker 1: or like tripping over and it's going to be the
Speaker 1: most stupid thing, the most stupid accident. Did the fact
Speaker 1: that you tripped on the steps? Did that play on
Speaker 1: your mind for the rest of the wedding during played
Speaker 1: on my life and my mind from the rest of
Speaker 1: my life since. Yeah, So the rest of it's sort
Speaker 1: of paled. You don't really remember it, you're just still
Speaker 1: thinking about Yeah. But also I do have a tendency
Speaker 1: to like focus on I'll remember the things that went wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm a pessimist. People laugh. Yes, of course they did
Speaker 1: because I but also I did it and then and
Speaker 1: then I think everyone was like, and then I went yes, okay,
Speaker 1: because I wanted to make it okay. It was a comedy.
Speaker 1: It was like a sitcom. It was like a sitcom.
Speaker 1: I went yes, yes, and then everyone laughed. In fact,
Speaker 1: I remember Susie Ruffle laughing very hard. Well, look, Jennifer Lawrence.
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence won her rasca and fell up the stairs,
Speaker 1: and everyone gave her a standy ovation and thought it
Speaker 1: was in Kobe charming and made her relatable. That's you.
Speaker 1: You're the Jennifer Lawrence of Sketco. Thank you. Committed to
Speaker 1: Skeetko even on my wedding day day? Do you worry
Speaker 1: about death? No? No, I would say, okay, so I
Speaker 1: would say, I'm quite a pessimist. This, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: going to sound really awful and depressing, right, but it's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm a massive overthinker and I do struggle with like anxiety,
Speaker 1: you know, just being fine mentally, So I'm not scared
Speaker 1: of death because I just think other a piece, do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Is that awful? No? That
Speaker 1: was much less depressing than I thought it would be.
Speaker 1: And I think when I say that, I think people
Speaker 1: probably listen to this and think she's got she's depressed,
Speaker 1: But I'm not. I just am quite a I'm quite
Speaker 1: a pessimist. I'm quite a cynic. I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: it's hard to articulate. I just sort of don't think
Speaker 1: that it would be that bad. Like sometimes I think
Speaker 1: I was trying to do stand up about this, and
Speaker 1: I think actually I was going I was doing stand
Speaker 1: up about this, and then that fucking bow Burnham has
Speaker 1: basically done this in a special. But I was trying
Speaker 1: to write a bit and it would didn't really work,
Speaker 1: So I think people found it too depressing. But like
Speaker 1: I would love to be dead for like a month. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know sometimes when you're like just a month of
Speaker 1: just being dead. But that obviously in any context when
Speaker 1: you say I wish I was dead, then you go, oh,
Speaker 1: that you've got your depressed, your suicidal. No, I'm not suicidal.
Speaker 1: I don't want to kill myself, but just if it happened,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind. I'd be fine. I think I had
Speaker 1: I had a business idea in my twenties which was
Speaker 1: like putting people in a coma for a month, so
Speaker 1: you could just sort of switch off for a month. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we'll look after it. In the coma. We fill
Speaker 1: you with like vitamins and feed you out and put
Speaker 1: muscle things on you so you actually when you come out,
Speaker 1: you're fitter and healthier. I recommend a film about this.
Speaker 1: I reckon this could be a massive film. Don't you
Speaker 1: think coma vacation? All right? Anyone listening? I own that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's brad. But do you know I also have those
Speaker 1: things where like do you ever feel sometimes like did
Speaker 1: you ever like fantasize about maybe being in like a
Speaker 1: minor road accident where you break an arm and you
Speaker 1: just think could couldn't you have to do nothing? You like?
Speaker 1: You know, the other day when I tore my calf muscle,
Speaker 1: we both bust up our legs at the same time,
Speaker 1: didn't we Yeah, not together, but in the same week,
Speaker 1: and I was not allowed to move. I was like,
Speaker 1: I had to say, sat on my sofa for a
Speaker 1: week and that was fine normally, Like I said, I
Speaker 1: need to be busy. I have to have a project
Speaker 1: because I feel like if I'm not being productive, then problems.
Speaker 1: I feel guilty. I find it difficult to switch off
Speaker 1: and enjoy my downtime. But if someone has said to me,
Speaker 1: you are forbidden from moving, you have to just do this. Oh,
Speaker 1: then I'm eat free and easy. I've got miss congeniality on.
Speaker 1: I've got the popcorn out middle of the day. Don't mind,
Speaker 1: you know. I don't fantasize about minor car accidents because
Speaker 1: I don't like I actually don't like injuries, like I'd
Speaker 1: sort of rather be dead than break a leg. You
Speaker 1: were quite desperate when you hurt your knee. When I
Speaker 1: said you had to completely rest it, you were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: can I can I still swim? Can I run? I
Speaker 1: was like no, yeah, no, And the panic in your eyes. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I'd rather that it killed me. Um, what
Speaker 1: do you think it happens when you die? So I
Speaker 1: think your consciousness goes. I think you don't know, you're
Speaker 1: not you're not your mind, your consciousness is gone, as in,
Speaker 1: you don't. I don't believe in an afterlife. I don't
Speaker 1: believe that you go somewhere and you're still you, but
Speaker 1: you're like, oh here I am in heaven. But I
Speaker 1: think that your energy, because energy, you can't destroy energy.
Speaker 1: It has to go somewhere. That's just physics. You know.
Speaker 1: Energy just doesn't ever end, It just changes form. I believe.
Speaker 1: I mean I think I remember it's a true that
Speaker 1: is true. Yes, So where's your energy going? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: think that your energy remains in the world and you
Speaker 1: could yeah, it could transform into but I don't think
Speaker 1: you're conscious of it. But I just think it transforms
Speaker 1: into whatever, like tree, a tree, or so. I guess
Speaker 1: I would believe in reincarnation, but without your consciousness, because
Speaker 1: I think that you would be hopefully reborn as something
Speaker 1: natural like a tree. That would you know, a tree
Speaker 1: might grow or some grass might grow, and then an
Speaker 1: animal might eat that thing and then you know you're
Speaker 1: part of you or the energy that was you is
Speaker 1: now part of something else. That's what I believe. But
Speaker 1: you don't sort of know it's happening. You're going. No,
Speaker 1: when you I think that when you die, it's like
Speaker 1: you're going under general anesthetic, but you just never wake
Speaker 1: up bad news. No, not necessarily, especially if you want
Speaker 1: to switch off. You know, it's hard to imagine, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Obviously i'd much prefer to that for there to be
Speaker 1: in afterlife, although actually maybe I wouldn't because I don't
Speaker 1: think I'm a very good person. Hey whoa wow, what
Speaker 1: don't I know about you? Oh? I know, I'm just
Speaker 1: quite impatient, and I don't think that I don't do
Speaker 1: as much kind of charity stuff as I should. I talk,
Speaker 1: I do. I love a bitch. But then also, do
Speaker 1: you know what I think? I think I'm a realistic person.
Speaker 1: All those people who are like so nice and positive,
Speaker 1: I'm like what you iden? You know? Interesting? Doesn't everyone
Speaker 1: have like because I don't be selfish by nature? Yes,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a whole argument of altruism doesn't exist
Speaker 1: because being good to people makes you feel good, So
Speaker 1: there's always an element of selfishness in it. I'm quite
Speaker 1: true to myself. I would say, I don't pretend to
Speaker 1: be something I'm not, and so so I guess you
Speaker 1: could say, well, that's honest. You're honest. Then you don't
Speaker 1: really lie a lot. But then maybe you could your
Speaker 1: actions could be nicer, you could choose not to, you know,
Speaker 1: submit to your more selfish and yeah, kind of negative impulses.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I yeah, I think the fact
Speaker 1: that you even think about these things sort of suggest
Speaker 1: you're a good person. Annoying, do you Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: think you wouldn't care. You'd be more like, well, I'm
Speaker 1: fucking selfish. You guys, fuck yourself, that's me anyone you
Speaker 1: know people? You know why my worst things? People who say, well,
Speaker 1: that's me. Isn't it like as if you know yourself.
Speaker 1: I don't know myself. We're talking about people in reality
Speaker 1: TV always go that's me, that's me, that's what I'm like.
Speaker 1: How do you know are you talking about? Yeah? I've
Speaker 1: got no idea what I'm like. I just yeah. It's
Speaker 1: really hard. It's like you're constantly assimilating how you see
Speaker 1: yourself and how you think other people see you, and
Speaker 1: then how they actually respond to you, and you're imagining
Speaker 1: what people think of you. As I said, my head's
Speaker 1: a very busy place, so it's exhausting in them. But
Speaker 1: when death does come, I think I'll just just I think,
Speaker 1: I think in the moment, I'll probably just be like
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and then get eaten by a squirrel. Yeah, good,
Speaker 1: good news. There is a heaven and the door, and
Speaker 1: you passed. You're in and at the door, I say,
Speaker 1: stop bitching about people in here. Please you let me
Speaker 1: in because you'd want me to do the catering. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd want you to make your sausages. Rose Johnson not
Speaker 1: only is very talented, it's get co commercial acting, acting
Speaker 1: and writing and wins awards from kids TV, but makes
Speaker 1: some of the finest in town. I mean all credit
Speaker 1: there really does have to go to Nigella because it
Speaker 1: is her recipe. But I make them every year at
Speaker 1: my Christmas party. Brad normally comes eats about thirty of
Speaker 1: them and then looks fifty. Yeah. You and Jack Rook
Speaker 1: just decimate every year. I have to up the order
Speaker 1: every year. Yeah, but look a bit guilty like other
Speaker 1: people have. You look really guilty. You look, you look
Speaker 1: like disgusted with yourself, and you look like yeah, guilty,
Speaker 1: like beat in the morning. No one else has had
Speaker 1: any I've started doing a ham as well, just to
Speaker 1: try and take some of the pressure some of the
Speaker 1: heavy lifting. Meat wise. Yeah, I like I leave that.
Speaker 1: I sort of now take it that the hammer is
Speaker 1: for everyone else and the meat right, Yeah, that's basically it. Yeah, okay, cool. Anyway,
Speaker 1: you're allowed in heaven. Welcome to Heaven. It's filled with
Speaker 1: your favorite things. What's your favorite thing? Food? It's fucking food. Everywhere.
Speaker 1: The chairs are made of food. It's food up the walls,
Speaker 1: everywhere you turn, there's food. You can the food is Nigella.
Speaker 1: Nigella is they're cooking all the food. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that. My friend she likes you. You're very close.
Speaker 1: You keep trying a bitch with hers. She go always
Speaker 1: go breads listening, no biting in heaven, and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah good, it's ras dreary. Then you're anywhere, and
Speaker 1: then I go and bitch about Nigella to someone. They like, gosh,
Speaker 1: it boring, an't she? And I'm listening, Rose, I'm always listening,
Speaker 1: to be honest. This sounds quite stressful. It's a little
Speaker 1: bit stressful. Yeah, you have to be the better person Noway,
Speaker 1: people didn't have and they're obsessed with you, Rose. They're
Speaker 1: obsessed with you. They won't know all about you, but
Speaker 1: they won't know about your life through film. The person
Speaker 1: thing they ask is what's the first film you remember seeing?
Speaker 1: Rose Johnson? Wow? So this okay. I would caveat this
Speaker 1: by saying that I did not have a TV in
Speaker 1: my house until I was nine. My parents did not
Speaker 1: live in the pretty much but no. I lived a
Speaker 1: little village in Stockholm. But my parents just did not
Speaker 1: think it was They just didn't have one. I think
Speaker 1: they were being very moral and we would read and
Speaker 1: run around in the in the yeah in the words basically,
Speaker 1: so I they used to hire one at Christmas so
Speaker 1: we can watch the Christmas stuff. But the first film
Speaker 1: I can remember seeing is at the cinema. Then not
Speaker 1: at home because we didn't have a Yeah, we didn't
Speaker 1: have a TV, so I didn't really watch things. By
Speaker 1: the way, I've got three little brothers and by the
Speaker 1: time time it got to the last two morals out
Speaker 1: the window in front of the TV all the time.
Speaker 1: When when when when I went to school, I used
Speaker 1: to go like homemade, like wholemeal bread sandwiches with cottage
Speaker 1: cheese and them like really grim. And then by the
Speaker 1: time Marcus got in my little bohere, it was like
Speaker 1: a a cheesewring and a pepper army. Off you go,
Speaker 1: like the morals went. So the first film I remember
Speaker 1: seeing in the cinema is Beethoven's Second I Love Beethoven,
Speaker 1: Charles Grady Rest in Peace. Yeah, I I My memory
Speaker 1: is quite hazy, but I remember what I can remember
Speaker 1: off it is dogs having an affair. Beethoven's Got a Lady,
Speaker 1: lady dog pregnant little dogs. Yeah, but I think I
Speaker 1: remember that watching this thing where where dogs like sneaking out,
Speaker 1: sneaking off to see the lady. Is that right? I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a mistress though, isn't it. He's not
Speaker 1: cheating on another dog. No. No, when I say affair,
Speaker 1: I mean just like a lover fair as in he's
Speaker 1: not supposed to be seen the sady. I just loved
Speaker 1: the idea. I fund it's so funny if this dog,
Speaker 1: this like bad boy dog being like sneaking out to
Speaker 1: see a woman. And then the other thing that The
Speaker 1: other thing I can remember so vividly is the scene
Speaker 1: where in my mind, this is in my memory, this
Speaker 1: is what happens. The dog pulls down the house. He
Speaker 1: pulls the house down. Something that's going on in the
Speaker 1: house that's bad. I think, like the daughters having a
Speaker 1: shaving a party in it. It's all got a bit
Speaker 1: west and the dog saves. The dog is like tied
Speaker 1: to the It's one of those like American lakehouses made
Speaker 1: of wood, and the dogs like tied to a post
Speaker 1: and the dog pulls the entire house down, and me
Speaker 1: being like nine years old, just being like, wow, that
Speaker 1: dog has affairs, can destruct it houses an impressive beast. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can you explain what it's like to go to the
Speaker 1: cinema not knowing what a TV is like? Is it
Speaker 1: the first time you're seeing moving images? I'm getting out
Speaker 1: like a crucifix and thing like witchery. No, like I said,
Speaker 1: I'd seen, I had seen. We had hired a TV
Speaker 1: at Christmas, so I'd seen things like I think I
Speaker 1: remember watching the Snowman. I remember watching that really vividly.
Speaker 1: I think I just remember it basically being the most
Speaker 1: exciting and glamorous trip out you could. I went with
Speaker 1: my best friend Sophie, who grew up just up the
Speaker 1: lane from me in my little village in Devon, and
Speaker 1: it was for her birthday and her mum, who's called Loops,
Speaker 1: brought us a group of us, popped us in the Mondeo,
Speaker 1: drove us and obviously, like at the time you go,
Speaker 1: this is I was so excited to go to this
Speaker 1: like mecca that was. It's essentially an industrial state, you know.
Speaker 1: It's like one of those on the outskirts of a
Speaker 1: town where you've got like your Hollywood Bowl, your Frankie
Speaker 1: and Benny's, you've got your you've got your Multiplex. But
Speaker 1: go like to me coming from this tiny, yeah, like
Speaker 1: village in Devon with no TV and seeing that it
Speaker 1: was like and now when I drive past this like
Speaker 1: the most oppressing place on the history of Earth, you know.
Speaker 1: But when we were going anywhere there Hollywood Bowl or
Speaker 1: the cinema art and then yeah, and I remember like
Speaker 1: sometimes we would go to McDonald's after, which, again for me,
Speaker 1: foods a big thing that was huge because my parents
Speaker 1: did not allow me to have as you can imagine,
Speaker 1: to have McDonald's. And but I remember also sometimes you
Speaker 1: have I feel like on this occasion, Loops did a
Speaker 1: picnic in the back of the Mondeo like she do
Speaker 1: you know like in the do you know like in
Speaker 1: America where they do the tailgate stuff like when they
Speaker 1: have their NFL games and then people will go and
Speaker 1: have Yeah, it was like that, but in the car
Speaker 1: park of a Hollywood Bowl on the outskirts of Toornton,
Speaker 1: in the back of a Ford one day and no
Speaker 1: one else is doing it and we're having like marmite sandwiches.
Speaker 1: Baby Little Rose was like, this is I've made it
Speaker 1: having grown up without a TV and all of that.
Speaker 1: Would you recommend if you have children, will you do
Speaker 1: you want to do the same or will you have
Speaker 1: screens everywhere? No? I think screens are unavoidable, so don't
Speaker 1: make them weird by not giving it to them. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? You don't want to be that
Speaker 1: kid at schoo Whereas when I was when I was
Speaker 1: growing up, you know, there were there were probably other
Speaker 1: people who didn't have a TV. There are only four channels.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like screens were on all the time. You
Speaker 1: didn't have a phone. I think you submit just but
Speaker 1: do you know what I'd also say is it depends
Speaker 1: where you're growing up as well. I grew up in
Speaker 1: Devon where we had a garden. Yeah, that's TV. You know,
Speaker 1: you're you're like, you're running around exactly. I was about
Speaker 1: to say nature as Nature's television. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: But I would run around with Sophie, you know her
Speaker 1: parents had you know, we would just be outside making
Speaker 1: mischief where It's like, I live in a small two
Speaker 1: bed flat in London. I can't imagine what people do.
Speaker 1: How would you? Yeah, you've got to know, you've got
Speaker 1: to got to give them Metali Retalian once the film
Speaker 1: that scared you the most? How do you feel about
Speaker 1: being scared? I hate it. I hate it with a passion,
Speaker 1: to the point at which I genuinely, for a long
Speaker 1: time had a like a proper phobia of scary films.
Speaker 1: The idea to me of like Nightmare in Elm Street
Speaker 1: or the Halloween films, the thought of them. If I
Speaker 1: even heard caught a glimpse, or saw the opening credit
Speaker 1: or heard the music, I would be in a cold.
Speaker 1: I hate I hate the sensation of being scared. I
Speaker 1: think because I'm a very stress control freaky living on
Speaker 1: my nerves person. I've got enough quartersol flowing through my
Speaker 1: veins all the time. I don't need any more. I
Speaker 1: feel like if I watch a scary film, it's going
Speaker 1: to tip me into the danger zone, right. I don't
Speaker 1: want it. I hate the feeling of it. I don't
Speaker 1: understand why people enjoy that feeling. I don't. I genuinely don't.
Speaker 1: I don't enjoy it, so I don't watch them. I
Speaker 1: don't watch them. I didn't watch Scream until I was
Speaker 1: late twenties, just and I did not like it. But
Speaker 1: this is the scariest film that I've watched, is Paranormal Activity,
Speaker 1: and it was from watching it on goggle Box. I
Speaker 1: haven't even watched it. It's a fucking scary film, oriant.
Speaker 1: I was watching google Box innocently of a Friday night.
Speaker 1: I love google Box with Dan. I was just trying
Speaker 1: to relax, have my nice probably a little martini on
Speaker 1: a Friday, and that came on. It was viscerally horrifying.
Speaker 1: I just wanted I genuinely was like, I want to
Speaker 1: leave the room. I hate this. And it was just
Speaker 1: clips of it, and it was like watching it, you know,
Speaker 1: watching other people watch it, and I genuinely had to
Speaker 1: put my fingers in my ears and cover my eyes
Speaker 1: and say to Dan, can you tell me when this
Speaker 1: is finished? I watched it was the clips were them
Speaker 1: going to bed. It was in the bedroom and then
Speaker 1: noises and then pulled out of the bed by a
Speaker 1: leg and pulled up and I for me horrifying, horrifying.
Speaker 1: It makes me, It makes my Oh, it just makes
Speaker 1: me shiver and I don't enjoy that. Like, what is
Speaker 1: it about scary films that's nice? It's a psychologically good
Speaker 1: for you. It takes you, lets you experience. It's basically
Speaker 1: allows you to experiment or play with your actual fears
Speaker 1: of death, but in a safe space in the same
Speaker 1: way that a rollercoaster does. And in the adrenaline spike
Speaker 1: that you get watching it. It entirely makes you present
Speaker 1: in the world. And when it's over it's almost cathetic, like, oh,
Speaker 1: you like you've done a workout. And what do you
Speaker 1: think that it says about me that I hate it
Speaker 1: so much? Do you think I secretly am like super
Speaker 1: scared of death? Then what I find interesting is you
Speaker 1: wrote a book that is a that you've described it
Speaker 1: comingto scenes where like sounds scary sound scary your book. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about it. And actually
Speaker 1: that's so mad because I do read loads of thrillers.
Speaker 1: It's just watching it onfold like, and I feel like,
Speaker 1: when you're reading a book, you're never scared, You're you're
Speaker 1: in control of it. But in a film, you don't know.
Speaker 1: It's something about the visuals and the audio and the
Speaker 1: realism of it. In a book, you're removed. It's words
Speaker 1: on a page. A film you are watching, it's his
Speaker 1: realistic depiction of something terrifying, yeah, happening. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think i'll ever I don't think i'll ever watch
Speaker 1: I would never watch a scary I'd never watch a
Speaker 1: horror film or a scary film out of choice ever.
Speaker 1: But you do love a true crime, don't you love
Speaker 1: a true crime? Don't love it? That's what I can't
Speaker 1: head around a lot of people don't like horror films,
Speaker 1: but we'll watch the show about a woman who's been hacked.
Speaker 1: Well also, yeah, or for example, like I'd say one
Speaker 1: of the best films that I've seen would be like
Speaker 1: West of Memphis and those Paradise Lost films. Yeah, which
Speaker 1: and it's weird, it is weird. But I think because
Speaker 1: they don't they're not suspenseful. I think it's it's the
Speaker 1: suspense they are. They are telling you something, they're telling us.
Speaker 1: They're still their stories. I mean, they're real, but they're
Speaker 1: telling you a story that has happened that there's no jeopardy,
Speaker 1: it's happened, it's happened. The past tense of it interesting,
Speaker 1: very interesting, Rosanna, I bet, but psychologist would have a
Speaker 1: field day with that. M Well. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't like horror films, and I watched one
Speaker 1: the other day. I really love them, and I was thinking,
Speaker 1: what is it that I love? And part of it
Speaker 1: is like when you get like a full fucking, like
Speaker 1: fucking out and you think why would you be putting
Speaker 1: yourself through it? But it's almost like it's it's like
Speaker 1: something's happening, do you know what I mean? Like it's
Speaker 1: like it's really exciting, and you know, the funny thing
Speaker 1: is it's like I really love that feeling. I'm very
Speaker 1: emotive and I feel things really deeply. I love that
Speaker 1: feeling of something's happening. In almost all other contexts. I
Speaker 1: love feeling a swell of emotion. I love feeling a
Speaker 1: swell of releasing a big having a big cry in
Speaker 1: a film, or yeah, finding something really funny. It's just
Speaker 1: that particular. Maybe it is because I feel things very
Speaker 1: I'm very sensitive, so I feel things really deeply. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's just too much, it's it's just too much. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's the film? And speaking of feeling things deeply,
Speaker 1: what's the film that made you cry the most? Titanic?
Speaker 1: So Titanic, I think just came at a time when
Speaker 1: I was a very hormonal, very impressionable, very like Dawson's
Speaker 1: Creek era teenager, and I watched it and I vividly remember.
Speaker 1: I don't even think I watched it at the cinema.
Speaker 1: I think I watched it at a sleepover. I remember
Speaker 1: watching my friends. No, it wasn't at Leaps's house. It
Speaker 1: was my friend sarahky Own's house, and I watched it
Speaker 1: there with a group of girls, and I was absolutely
Speaker 1: like beside myself, just just sobbing and sobbing, And I
Speaker 1: genuinely remember when it finished thinking to myself, your life
Speaker 1: will never be the same again. That's really you have
Speaker 1: watched this thing, and you are a different person now
Speaker 1: because you have watched this epic love and this epic
Speaker 1: tragedy and nothing will be the same. I think it
Speaker 1: was like probably the first film that I watched where
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, there's not a there's a really
Speaker 1: unhappy end, like a really horrendous thing happens. And I
Speaker 1: think probably I was probably in love with a boy,
Speaker 1: you know, as you're in deep teenage of a fatuation
Speaker 1: with a boy at school, and just you just project
Speaker 1: all of your unrequited love and those feelings onto that
Speaker 1: film and you you go that perfectly I mean absolutely mad,
Speaker 1: but you go, my teenage brain goes that perfectly encapsulates
Speaker 1: my feelings. That's that's real. When it's like, no, that's
Speaker 1: people drowning in in icy water. Your your your crush
Speaker 1: is just moving moving to schools, Like that's not the same.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it really, Oh, it really punched me in
Speaker 1: the gut. Maybe it is a particularly female I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's like that. There's something about it that
Speaker 1: that I guess. Yeah, because you're a woman, you empathize
Speaker 1: with Rose, especially me because my name is Rose. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. You that was Yeah, listen, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a great film. It lost me very early on. I
Speaker 1: remember it lost me very early on when Billy Zane
Speaker 1: says that Picasso he won't amount too much, and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but Kathy Bates, she's putting in a shift. She's putting it. Listen,
Speaker 1: everyone's doing the work there. Um oh. Also, do you
Speaker 1: know an act called John You know Jonathan Hyde or
Speaker 1: is it Jonathan Hind? Jonathan Hyde, he's in Jumanji, he's
Speaker 1: the hunter in Jumanjie. And he's also in Titanic because
Speaker 1: like he's got a big mustache. Yes, he also lived
Speaker 1: just outside my village at the time, So I mean
Speaker 1: you can imagine, you can imagine my delight. I would
Speaker 1: just like I think, I hope, hope that I was
Speaker 1: going to I mean I think also I would also
Speaker 1: say a massive part of this is like a deep
Speaker 1: and like truly unhealthy crush on Andi DiCaprio. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm thinking maybe I'll bump into Jonathan
Speaker 1: Hind or is it Hyde? I can't remember, Sorry to
Speaker 1: Jonathan whichever one it is, I remember, think I'll bump
Speaker 1: into him. Then somehow through him, I'll meet Leonardo's DiCaprio,
Speaker 1: and then we'll fall in love and be together what's
Speaker 1: a lovely I think this truthful. What's the film that
Speaker 1: you love? It's not a critically acclaimed most people don't
Speaker 1: like it, but you love it unconditionally. Home Alone too,
Speaker 1: lust in New York. Yeah, okay, so I'll tell you
Speaker 1: why the Donald Trump when Yeah, that's unfortunate. That is
Speaker 1: unfortunate Donald Trump cameo. So when we would hire the
Speaker 1: TV at Christmas, yeah, we would often watch Home Alone.
Speaker 1: And we still My family and I watch it every
Speaker 1: year together like whenever when when we're all together for Christmas,
Speaker 1: we still watch it and we watch Home Alone too.
Speaker 1: And I love Home Alone too because I think it's
Speaker 1: a really funny, genuinely funny sequel that does play on
Speaker 1: the jokes from the first one and does in a
Speaker 1: playful way and not in a cringe way, in a
Speaker 1: way that does sort of it's self referential. There are
Speaker 1: really funny things. I mean, yeah, just them just when
Speaker 1: they sleep in and they just got up and they
Speaker 1: just go, We're did it again? I love it well,
Speaker 1: I mean, what's not to love. I also think Uncle
Speaker 1: Frank in the Home Alone movies is one of the
Speaker 1: greatest comic creations of cinema and I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: with any degree of sarcasm or irony. I think he's
Speaker 1: so funny. I think it just everything he says, like
Speaker 1: when Kevin says something like when when his mum says,
Speaker 1: you've got to go and get your tie, where's you're tie?
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, it's in the bathroom. But Uncle
Speaker 1: franksin they're having a Sharon. He said, if I came
Speaker 1: in and saw him, I'd grow up never feeling like
Speaker 1: a real man. Like that's so funny, and just yeah,
Speaker 1: just he's just so funny. Steve that's trying to steal
Speaker 1: the glasses from the He's just like an absolute nightmare,
Speaker 1: hand around the canopeys before it's time. Lovely and so yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think Uncle Frank I love so
Speaker 1: anything where I got to see him again great. And
Speaker 1: then also I really like the way that in Home
Speaker 1: Alone Too Lost in New York, the psychopathic elements of
Speaker 1: Kevin McAllister's character really they runs it up. They go
Speaker 1: We've got I mean literally in that there's a scene
Speaker 1: where Marv has he's somehow got Marv giving Marv an
Speaker 1: electric shock and he turns. There's this like where he's
Speaker 1: like dead Eyed Kevin, and he's just turning the knob
Speaker 1: of the generator up and then I don't if you
Speaker 1: remember this, there's a shot in which Marv's face when
Speaker 1: he turns the shock right up cuts to a skeleton
Speaker 1: with hair. Briefly, yes, he and the noise he makes.
Speaker 1: I'm going to do the noise now, Okay, he goes.
Speaker 1: And it's so good. It also has my favorite quote
Speaker 1: from I mean, I quote me and my brothers quote
Speaker 1: this to each other all the time. I also think
Speaker 1: I do also think that like Joe Peshi and is
Speaker 1: it Howard ster Daniels, Daniel Sterne. Sorry, I think those
Speaker 1: performances are absolutely outstanding. I do. I just think Home
Speaker 1: Alone the Home Alone films don't get enough credit, and
Speaker 1: I think Home Alone two is just as good I do,
Speaker 1: if not better. I think it's on a par but
Speaker 1: obviously Home Alone one people think it's good and everyone's like,
Speaker 1: oh Home Alone two, ship it's not. It's brilliant also,
Speaker 1: Catherine Harror, I mean, it's it's an incredible cast. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: But the best, the finest quote, me and my brother's
Speaker 1: quote this all the time is when Marv gets in
Speaker 1: he finally gets in. He's had numerous bricks to the head,
Speaker 1: you know, there's lots always a bricks to the head scene.
Speaker 1: And then Marv goes, he gets he finally breaks into
Speaker 1: this abandoned house and he goes, Harry, I've reached the top,
Speaker 1: and then immediately falls down two story steps in a
Speaker 1: big hole, falls down two stories, flow on his face.
Speaker 1: Then it then there's like it cuts away to something
Speaker 1: else and it just cuts back to him and he
Speaker 1: just goes. He just goes. He lifts his head up
Speaker 1: and just goes, Wow, what a hole. And it's it's
Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic. Get yourself on YouTube. Ye great answer, Rose Johnson.
Speaker 1: What is the film that you used to love but
Speaker 1: you've watched it recently and you've thought, I do not
Speaker 1: like this anymore or whatever that may be another Christmas film?
Speaker 1: It's not actually interesting. Used to love it, really loved it,
Speaker 1: you know, nice cozy Richard Curtis's film, ha ha ha haha,
Speaker 1: lovely romantic. Yeah, I just really thought it was lovely.
Speaker 1: He thought it was sad, maybe cry, you know, Emma Thompson,
Speaker 1: I thought it was really funny. Hugh Grant as a
Speaker 1: dance all that and then the bit with you know
Speaker 1: their porn actors and then they you know, yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you give it a rewatch recently and you think, oh,
Speaker 1: deary me, dear, oh dear, dear, O, dear o dear.
Speaker 1: Colin Firth is basically given a woman when he goes
Speaker 1: away who they can't communicate, you can't speak, but she
Speaker 1: nonetheless falls in love with him. And then there's a
Speaker 1: scene towards the end where the dad is trying to
Speaker 1: sell off the other daughter saying, no one's going to
Speaker 1: want miss dunkin Donuts twenties fifteen or whatever. It is
Speaker 1: a lot of fat shaming. Like Martin McCutcheon's character. The
Speaker 1: whole comic storyline there is that she's fat when she's
Speaker 1: not fat. The I mean, there's a Lindy West article
Speaker 1: on Jezebel which says all of this much better than
Speaker 1: I am, but it's a it's an incredibly problematic film,
Speaker 1: and you kind of go when you get older and
Speaker 1: you sort of well, you sort of understand how I think.
Speaker 1: I went to university and studied some film studies actually
Speaker 1: was and sort of thought about how women are presented
Speaker 1: in films, and yeah, I just was like, this is, um,
Speaker 1: this is appalling, and you just think, well, this is Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very obviously a film that's written by a man
Speaker 1: for women, and I just think it's it doesn't treat
Speaker 1: treat us very well. You know, I do know. I
Speaker 1: know exactly what you're talking about, Road, and I can't
Speaker 1: argue with any of that. That being said, if it
Speaker 1: was on, I would watch it. And that being said,
Speaker 1: it's really lovely and you'll make yeah it is. That's
Speaker 1: the thing. The problem is is, like it does with
Speaker 1: these there's a weird thing with being a woman with
Speaker 1: films like that, where they are so good in this
Speaker 1: formulaic way at not manipulating your emotions but provoking a
Speaker 1: certain emotional response via narrative, by music, via all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff that you sort of do enjoy them.
Speaker 1: You suspend your disbelief, you suspend your your outrage to
Speaker 1: enjoy them. It's just I wish that I didn't have
Speaker 1: to do that with so many films. I agree with that,
Speaker 1: what's the film that means the most to you? Not
Speaker 1: necessarily a film itself is any good, but because the
Speaker 1: experience you had around seeing it, that will always make
Speaker 1: it special. So this was. I found this one really hard,
Speaker 1: I partially because I have a terrible memory. So I
Speaker 1: do you know what I would love to say is
Speaker 1: I went to Australia on my gap year because I'm
Speaker 1: an absolute basic bitch, and I went to this town
Speaker 1: in the mountains in Australia where basically weed as legal.
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I think maybe it's just like
Speaker 1: the police are like, we can't be bothered to go
Speaker 1: all the way over there. Let's just let them go
Speaker 1: on with it. So it's like a really like hippie
Speaker 1: dippy town, as you know everywhere else bonds. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of white people with dreadlocks. It's that kind of vibe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they've got cinema there where everyone goes and gets
Speaker 1: high and watch his film a film, And I really remember,
Speaker 1: and that experience was crazy because I was super high.
Speaker 1: By The problem is I was so high, I can't
Speaker 1: remember what the film was. That's great, Do you remember
Speaker 1: any detail of it? No, I remember the cinema. I
Speaker 1: remember the cinema more. It had like psychedelic stuff painted
Speaker 1: on the walls. But the film, I can't tell you.
Speaker 1: And then you know, you sort of said maybe the
Speaker 1: film that you went to see on your foot on
Speaker 1: a date a special date by the film that I
Speaker 1: went to see on my first date with my husband
Speaker 1: was we need to talk about Kevin. So it doesn't
Speaker 1: really feel Yeah, it doesn't really work like I'd say,
Speaker 1: that wasn't a particularly memorable experience. It's not special to
Speaker 1: me that film. I'm not like, oh, yeah, that lovely
Speaker 1: film that we watched together on our first date. I'd
Speaker 1: rather forget it, you know what I mean. But did
Speaker 1: you kiss after it after we need to talk about Kevin? Oh? Probably? Probably? Yeah, probably, yeah, probably. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have imagine I'd like that stopped me. No,
Speaker 1: I probably got you in the mood if anything. So
Speaker 1: the film that I'm actually going to pick for this
Speaker 1: one is kill Bill two. Okay, because I really when
Speaker 1: I was thinking, when do I really remember being in
Speaker 1: a cinema when it's a really memorable experience, and it
Speaker 1: was for that and I was at Uni, and I
Speaker 1: remember I loved kill the first kill Bill film so much.
Speaker 1: I was so excited when the second one was going
Speaker 1: to come out, and I went to watch it like
Speaker 1: at lunchtime that you know, the first showing of the day.
Speaker 1: And I remember there was no one else in the cinema,
Speaker 1: just me, and I remember really vividly feeling like, this
Speaker 1: is what it's like being a grown up. I'm an adult.
Speaker 1: I can go and watch this film. That's an eighteen.
Speaker 1: That's why cool director. And I'm watching it in the
Speaker 1: middle of the day by myself and I can do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's it's a bit of a weird one, but
Speaker 1: that's I love that. I really loved that. M That's
Speaker 1: a great answer, and we've not had one like that,
Speaker 1: and I love it. Rose Johnson, what's the film you
Speaker 1: most relate to Ladybird because of her relationship with her mum?
Speaker 1: Tell me, yeah, just that specific detail of it. I
Speaker 1: just thought that it presented that impossible relationship between mother
Speaker 1: and daughter just perfectly, and and the fact that it's
Speaker 1: it is absolutely fifty percent pure love and fifty percent
Speaker 1: just the most annoyance and irritation and passive aggression that
Speaker 1: anyone can ever have. What's your ratio now with my mum? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That fifty fifty? What is it now? Still fifty? Depends
Speaker 1: if I'm it depends if I'm in her actual company, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: in her actual I am I When I'm with her,
Speaker 1: she is the most amazing, loving, supportive, generous person, and
Speaker 1: she's an incredible mother. But I just and she but
Speaker 1: but it must be a genetic thing. She just can
Speaker 1: inspire the most like and like just absolute impossible like
Speaker 1: feelings of annoyance with me, and she brings she makes
Speaker 1: me like. My interactions with her make when I am
Speaker 1: the worst version of myself health but also the best
Speaker 1: version of myself. That's so sometimes. Yeah, she wants she
Speaker 1: makes me want to be the best version of myself,
Speaker 1: and then she makes me wants to scream. I think
Speaker 1: that's nice. I think my family only get the worst
Speaker 1: of me. Sadly, I don't think they get it's horrible.
Speaker 1: I think it's a horrible thing to notice about yourself
Speaker 1: that you're being like that, and that you're sort of
Speaker 1: incapable of not being like that. You revert to this, Yes,
Speaker 1: sulky teenager basically who has no patience. Dan says that
Speaker 1: he thinks that we are genetically predisposed to find our
Speaker 1: parents annoying because that's what makes us leave and not
Speaker 1: stay with them forever. Yeah, I have heard a theory
Speaker 1: that why teenagers suddenly hate their parents say that they
Speaker 1: won't have sex with them because when we were like
Speaker 1: living in caves and there are only four people on
Speaker 1: the planet. Yeah, yeah, getting puberty, you're thinking, oh, she's
Speaker 1: I'd say yeah, i'd say for me, you know, but
Speaker 1: sure in the past, fine, but yeah, that one. And like,
Speaker 1: I don't want I think this is like I don't
Speaker 1: want it to sound like does that make me sound bad?
Speaker 1: Basically I don't want to sound bad. And it's not
Speaker 1: about her. It's not about her at all. It's about me.
Speaker 1: It's about me and how and that. Yeah, it's such
Speaker 1: a complicated relationship because I think a lot of time
Speaker 1: your mothers will project things onto their daughters that they
Speaker 1: their own hopes and aspirations and neuroses, and then as
Speaker 1: a daughter you react against that, but you don't appreciate
Speaker 1: the different obstacles and things like that that your parents.
Speaker 1: You don't see them as people. They're your parents. They're
Speaker 1: just an authority. But actually it's like no, they they're
Speaker 1: just a person, you know. And I just thought that
Speaker 1: film really nailed it. That's a lovely answer. Race, what's them?
Speaker 1: Speaking of mums? What's the sexiest film you've ever seen? Okay,
Speaker 1: and you told me, you've said I'm not allowed to
Speaker 1: mention this, but I'm sorry it's Dirty Dancing. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It's okay. Yeah, I only say because it's
Speaker 1: come up a lot, but it hasn't come up for
Speaker 1: a while, so it's okay. So okay. So I would
Speaker 1: say that for me, Dirty Dancing is maybe the most
Speaker 1: seminal film of my life. So I was like, I
Speaker 1: have to, I have to mention it, fair enough. It's
Speaker 1: a fantastic I watched it first with my friends, the Barnsies, Polydaisy,
Speaker 1: Georgia Barnes, absolute legends. So I think, I mean, I
Speaker 1: was far too young. We were must have been, yeah,
Speaker 1: under ten, I would say, when did it come out? Eighties? Nineties? Eight? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I think we would have been under ten.
Speaker 1: It was so weird because I watched it. We used
Speaker 1: to watch it all the time and loved it because
Speaker 1: obviously at that age you love all the dancing and
Speaker 1: the music. It's like the soundtrack is absolutely banging. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Obviously the abortion storyline really went over my head at
Speaker 1: that age, but I didn't then, didn't watch it for years.
Speaker 1: So when I did then watch it, again when I
Speaker 1: was an adult or when I was a sort of teenager.
Speaker 1: Not only is it like an absolutely fantastic film that
Speaker 1: I will stand by until the day I die, but
Speaker 1: it hit me with the most overwhelming nostalgia that I've
Speaker 1: ever experienced, because I remember it's like watching It's like
Speaker 1: this the most crazy deja vu when you watched you
Speaker 1: You're like, I watched this as a child and I
Speaker 1: can't rem and I'm only just remembering that now, and
Speaker 1: I can remember these sites and noises and stuff. But
Speaker 1: the scene in when she goes to his cabin and
Speaker 1: he dances with her, and he specifically the bit where
Speaker 1: he he like holds her and he sort of swings
Speaker 1: her round, and I believe these arms of Mine is
Speaker 1: playing sounds about right, And Mama Mia, I watched that,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, at an age where I think he
Speaker 1: was probably the first sort of sex scene. I mean
Speaker 1: it's a very soft, soft core sex scene. You don't
Speaker 1: see anything. I think it was probably the first sex
Speaker 1: scene I ever watched. And it was like what is this?
Speaker 1: And swazy is like so hot? Yeah, And just also
Speaker 1: that like whole it's got a real teenage romance vibe.
Speaker 1: Twit where you know where they like, He's like, they
Speaker 1: sneak off and go down to the lake and he
Speaker 1: breaks the thing with his car, Like I feel like
Speaker 1: I had. You know, when you're a teenager, you do
Speaker 1: things like that. Don't you feel like everything's this epic?
Speaker 1: You feel like everything's a kind of holiday. Wrote a
Speaker 1: summer romance. Yeah, so yeah, but that scene where he yeah,
Speaker 1: he sort of like dips around. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: I watched it. I watched I've seen it a million
Speaker 1: times because I have a sister, but I hadn't seen
Speaker 1: it in many years. But I did watch it. That's
Speaker 1: three months ago when it was on TV. It was
Speaker 1: on I haven't seen it in years. Does it hold up? Only?
Speaker 1: Does it hold up? It's fucking amazing. It's a really
Speaker 1: really brilliant film, very far ahead of its time. It's brilliant. However,
Speaker 1: the only bit that I was like is right at
Speaker 1: the end when he Johnny comes on stage to do
Speaker 1: the last dance, even though he's been asked not too.
Speaker 1: He gives a speech and he goes, yeah, I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to do the last dance and we do this every year,
Speaker 1: and he goes, but someone taught me that it's important
Speaker 1: to start. And I'm thinking everyone in the audience is game.
Speaker 1: Fuck is he talking about? Yeah? Yeah, the end of
Speaker 1: year show. They've had four. Peter Klardi's dec this, what's
Speaker 1: this coach? This? And be what the fuck is he
Speaker 1: talking about? Like he's going to cry, what earth this guy?
Speaker 1: You know? But as a as a when you watch
Speaker 1: that as an impressionable sort of late teenager, either thought
Speaker 1: of a boy doing that about you? Oh yeah it's
Speaker 1: hot yea, yeah, I do think it's and I just
Speaker 1: think it's an absolutely outstanding film. I really do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the soundtrack is Yeah, I just like I said,
Speaker 1: I think the soundtrack is incredible. Jennifer Gray is brilliant
Speaker 1: and like, you know, peak of her, i'd say, you
Speaker 1: know she peeked, Yeah, what's um? There's a troubling what's
Speaker 1: the what is? There's a subcategory troubling bonus worrying why dones?
Speaker 1: What's the film you found arousing but you weren't sure
Speaker 1: that you should have? Okay, So the film that I've chosen,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that weird to find I think
Speaker 1: it's not unusual to find this character sexy. But so
Speaker 1: it's streetcar named Desire. It's Marlon Brando class and that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just he's just raw sex. But he's also an
Speaker 1: abusive husband. So that's that's the reason why it's it's
Speaker 1: worrying because it's like, why do you find that attractive?
Speaker 1: But he's just I do think that's like, yeah, the
Speaker 1: bit where he like mews like a cat, don't mind
Speaker 1: if I do. What is the objectively the greatest film
Speaker 1: of all time? Rose Johnson, Silence of the Lambs. Fantastic answer.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you for why please do? The thing is
Speaker 1: with this one. The objectively thing is a real tricky
Speaker 1: word in that because objectively obviously it's like Godfather Part
Speaker 1: two or you know what I mean. But like, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: great film. However, I think for me, for pure like
Speaker 1: pure entertainment value, Silence of the Lambs is a perfect film.
Speaker 1: He's also classified as a horror. Rose Johnson, do you
Speaker 1: think I think it's a thriller? I think there's a difference.
Speaker 1: I mean there's people peeling off faces, there's yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: there's lots of suspense. There's like you don't see you
Speaker 1: don't see the vibe looking in the house with a
Speaker 1: fucking note vision. That's not a not a horror. M hmm,
Speaker 1: you love a horror. I can't believe it. You're Maybe
Speaker 1: it's just that I never Maybe it's just that I
Speaker 1: never watched them, and then I did watch that one
Speaker 1: and I loved it, so maybe I would love them. Yeah. Basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that film is just so well made and
Speaker 1: so like just I just you just I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean it's widely considered an excellent film, isn't I
Speaker 1: need to justify that. But in terms of if you
Speaker 1: want to sit down and watch a film, a movie
Speaker 1: Sun As the Lambs, you're never going to go, oh nah,
Speaker 1: You're gonna be like yes. And also for me, it
Speaker 1: had to be that because is my favorite thing, Like
Speaker 1: my favorite genre of movies is like eighties slash nineties thrillers,
Speaker 1: Like it's got Michael Douglas please yeah, you know in
Speaker 1: in like a really boxy Porsche. He works, you know,
Speaker 1: he's got to work in he's got to work. He's
Speaker 1: got to have like an impossibly like eighties everywhere glass everywhere.
Speaker 1: What's that film? I was trying to remember this where
Speaker 1: he's in his house and then someone comes and there's
Speaker 1: this like really tense standoff. Maybe it's cycle attraction, but
Speaker 1: I think it's another man though I can't remember. This
Speaker 1: is a bad anecdote, but basically my favorite if if, if, if,
Speaker 1: if you say to me, like what kind of films
Speaker 1: you want to watch? I would be like, like Wall Street,
Speaker 1: the fun there's got to be like probably a psychopathic
Speaker 1: woman can be Glenn Close, it can be yeah, it
Speaker 1: can be like something like that. Just something that's really
Speaker 1: like probably it's got to be American, really escapist, like
Speaker 1: all about really rich people in the eighties, like specific
Speaker 1: hy or nineties or nineties. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: I love those films. Yeah, I love them, like Love
Speaker 1: the Bone Collector, like things like this Love. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what that's. If you say, like I'm constantly looking from
Speaker 1: the more of those working girl, you know, constantly, that's
Speaker 1: what I want, is like it's gotta yeah, sort of
Speaker 1: a Nora f like you know when Harry met Sally
Speaker 1: sort of it's like that esthetic of like like that era.
Speaker 1: Well then the modern equivalent of that you're looking at
Speaker 1: you're looking at your Nancy Myers films. You're looking at it.
Speaker 1: It's complimicated and you're looking at. Something's got to give. No,
Speaker 1: I don't want those. It has to be it has
Speaker 1: to be dating eighties or nineties. I would say for me,
Speaker 1: that's the golden age of cinema, right, because you know, again,
Speaker 1: greatest film of all time. I thought, well, I pick
Speaker 1: a big musical like I love Oliver Cabaret. But I
Speaker 1: just the most enjoyment I get is out of those
Speaker 1: really escapist eighties like Lucks. Somebody is either murderous or
Speaker 1: so doing something so nefarious with money that it's going
Speaker 1: to drive them to murder. Absolutely obsessed with horror films.
Speaker 1: What's the what's the film you could or have? What's
Speaker 1: the most? Over and over again it's die Hard, great answer, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just pure and simple glass eighties horror. Yeah, that that
Speaker 1: absolutely fits into my my thing. Yeah, I think it's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Again again, I love the what's his name? The guy go? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's roll Legs. You know that guy he gets shot
Speaker 1: in the head really early doors. Yeah, he is great.
Speaker 1: It's such a good film. But I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: really need to go into it, do I. I just
Speaker 1: but again, it's like we watched that every Christmas. It's
Speaker 1: a real kind of and a lot of those films.
Speaker 1: It is just like the kind of quotability thing, isn't
Speaker 1: it that you It's just iconic and Rickman just doing
Speaker 1: an absolutely sterling job. It's really really really good storytelling
Speaker 1: die Hard and it's the sort of film that really
Speaker 1: is easy and it has never been talk really Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a fun story about my mum. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were watching they My mom and dad get really annoyed
Speaker 1: when we whenever we're watching Home Alone, Home Alone Too
Speaker 1: and die Hard. Every Christmas they come and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this again, you've seen it and we're like, yes, that's
Speaker 1: not the point. So then one year we were like,
Speaker 1: let's watch die Hard too. She hasn't seen that. Right
Speaker 1: about an hour into the film, Yeah, Bruce Willis walks
Speaker 1: into shot and my mum goes, who's he? So just
Speaker 1: to give you an idea of what I'm playing with
Speaker 1: when you're watching a film, Dan, my husband said that
Speaker 1: his one of his ultimate aims is to watch Inception
Speaker 1: with her and put a webcam on her and just
Speaker 1: so we can like live broadcast her watching Inception and
Speaker 1: losing her mind. Dear, what is the We don't like
Speaker 1: to be negative rise, so do it quickly. What's the
Speaker 1: worst film you ever saw? Oh, I'm I'm going to
Speaker 1: be negative. It's called Love's Kitchen and it's an absolute stinker.
Speaker 1: Is that the Gordon Ramsey went, yeah, Gordon Ramsey said
Speaker 1: it doing a cameo and I mean as himself and
Speaker 1: failing to convince. I would say it surprises me because
Speaker 1: I always thought he is sort of acting, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: But I think as soon as someone says, oh, but
Speaker 1: you're acting in a film, yeah, it's But I also
Speaker 1: think it's the fault of the script. It's a tear.
Speaker 1: It's one of the worst scripts that there's ever been.
Speaker 1: I can't really remember much of it. I watched it
Speaker 1: ages ago and just could not believe my eyes. Basically,
Speaker 1: the premise is like the entire jeopardy that the whole
Speaker 1: film is based on is if a restaurant can get
Speaker 1: a good review. That's the whole thing. And there's like
Speaker 1: a hot there's like a like the peak of the
Speaker 1: action in the film is when this main guy tries
Speaker 1: to win round the hostile locals with a duck dish.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, like, you're comparing that to die Hard,
Speaker 1: say Jeopardy wise, not great. I'm going to now I've
Speaker 1: not seen Loves Kitchen, but I'm going to defend that story.
Speaker 1: There's a way of telling that story that I think
Speaker 1: can be interesting, and I'm sure that films like Big
Speaker 1: Net and Rata Twee aren't far off the plot Loves Kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think film, but I wouldn't blame It's right. It's
Speaker 1: a writer director. I think, bless him, and he's had
Speaker 1: to go. I'd say this is one of the instances
Speaker 1: in which you should one of those pick one and
Speaker 1: then hand over control to someone else and get another.
Speaker 1: Just get another eye over it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: In that case, have something jump off the skyscraper. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I also think, like when I watch it, I
Speaker 1: suppose actually though, it's quite amazing that it got made,
Speaker 1: because you just kind of think how, how, who paid?
Speaker 1: Where was the money for that? And then but then
Speaker 1: you watch it and I kind of think, why would
Speaker 1: you know what that got made? That's it better stuff
Speaker 1: than that? Yeah? For me, I just remember it feeling
Speaker 1: like it's like chaos, but it's like it's like really
Speaker 1: boring chaos, so like nothing hangs together, there's no real
Speaker 1: like narrative. There's characters that sort of come in and
Speaker 1: you think, oh, they're going to be something. Surely they're
Speaker 1: going to then be something integral to the plot, never
Speaker 1: never see him again. Then Simon Callo comes in. The
Speaker 1: performances are all over the place. There's no you know,
Speaker 1: sort of overarching thing, but it's it's yeah, it's chaotic,
Speaker 1: and it's it's really baggy and chaotic, but just yeah,
Speaker 1: like so boring, Like it's not even like, you know,
Speaker 1: what's that movie The Room that everyone loves watching because
Speaker 1: it's so bad, Like it's just although actually, to be honest,
Speaker 1: you know, I would watch it with you. I think
Speaker 1: it would be funny to watch because it's so bad.
Speaker 1: So actually, maybe it's not a terrible film because it's entertaining,
Speaker 1: but not in the way that it's intending to be,
Speaker 1: because I don't think it's even really a comedy, or
Speaker 1: maybe it is meant to be a comedy and it's not.
Speaker 1: It's so unfunny that then it's funny. Does Gordon Ramsa
Speaker 1: come in and do a kitchen nightmare or something? What's
Speaker 1: his part in it? Ah? Yeah, I think he's like
Speaker 1: a friend of the chef character and yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's yeah, him sort of being like that kind of
Speaker 1: ill like this shit, Yeah, your restaurant is rubbish. But
Speaker 1: I feel like if enough people watched it, it could
Speaker 1: become like the Room. Like I feel like there could
Speaker 1: be like, you know, screenings at the Prince Charles Cinema
Speaker 1: where everyone goes and watches it and shouts the lines along.
Speaker 1: So I'd say, if you haven't watched it, have a guy,
Speaker 1: because it's remark it's remarkable. I think you've actually sold
Speaker 1: it quite well. Imagine if it now becomes a sleeper hit.
Speaker 1: Sorry go on, because are you I'd buy some shares
Speaker 1: in it right now? What's the what you're in comedy?
Speaker 1: You're very funny. What's the film that made you laugh
Speaker 1: the most? Okay, the one that I remember laughing to
Speaker 1: the most is a film called The Castle. Love the Castle,
Speaker 1: the fucking gray film. I watched it when I was
Speaker 1: on my yeah, on my basic gap year in Australia,
Speaker 1: and they put it on on a really long coach journey.
Speaker 1: You know, you do your backpack of thing you get
Speaker 1: on a greyhound bus. They put this film on and
Speaker 1: I just remember being like, this is the funniest thing
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, and then I couldn't because there wasn't online.
Speaker 1: There wasn't, I mean, like stuff wasn't. You couldn't watch
Speaker 1: films online. Then I got home and I couldn't get
Speaker 1: it because it was a different region. I couldn't. I
Speaker 1: could never get it. And I don't think i've I
Speaker 1: haven't watched it since. I just remember I just watched.
Speaker 1: I actually just watched a clip of it to just
Speaker 1: be like, do I remember that. I don't remember this
Speaker 1: to be funny, My god, it's funny. The script is
Speaker 1: so funny, like the opening scene where the guy's saying
Speaker 1: where they live, and he's like, we live we live
Speaker 1: right next to an airport, which would which would be
Speaker 1: which is going to be really handy if we ever
Speaker 1: need to use a plane. And it's just like stuff
Speaker 1: like that, my dad got our house for an absolute steel,
Speaker 1: Like it's worth now almost as much as what he
Speaker 1: paid for it. Like it's so funny and it's just
Speaker 1: a really I think it was like such a life.
Speaker 1: It was a really low budget, massive hit in Australia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they've I think they think they just voted
Speaker 1: it their favorite fit. It's not really widely known over here.
Speaker 1: Is its great or is it not? Massively? But it's
Speaker 1: so funny, and i'd say, you know, if you like
Speaker 1: Christopher Guest kind of films, it's it's that kind of
Speaker 1: very like supernaturalistic but really funny. They're real people with
Speaker 1: these characters, but the script is just fantastic. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was much of it was improvised or
Speaker 1: were you messed off your head when you watched it,
Speaker 1: like the rest of your time in Australia. No, I
Speaker 1: don't think I was. I was prebaby hung over, right.
Speaker 1: Were you on your own in Australia, Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1: Did you fall in love? Oh? I tried to, but
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I didn't have much success dating wise until
Speaker 1: quite late on Brad. I couldn't. I was too loud
Speaker 1: and no, I really I try. I tried my best,
Speaker 1: but no, no, I didn't fall in love. I tried.
Speaker 1: I did try, but yeah, I just I really did
Speaker 1: feel for a long time that there was something fundamentally
Speaker 1: wrong with me. I didn't. I just didn't have much
Speaker 1: success with men, and I do think it was because
Speaker 1: I was probably very outgoing and loud and intimidating and
Speaker 1: because actually yes, since I have, there's been like a
Speaker 1: couple of people who've said, oh, yeah, I used to
Speaker 1: like you at school, but you could have told me
Speaker 1: I was just from crying. It was my boyfriend. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: Rosas and you are nothing but fascinating. You've been a
Speaker 1: wonderful guest. However, when you were you went to you know,
Speaker 1: they've opened Latitude this summer and it's a testament. It's
Speaker 1: going to be massive everywhere, full capacity. And you go along.
Speaker 1: You're doing this solo show and a Skeetco show and
Speaker 1: a reading of your new book. And before between your
Speaker 1: first gig, you do you first gig Aapolute it's Massi.
Speaker 1: You're the hero of Latitude, and you're nervous about your
Speaker 1: second gig, it's Skeetco back with the Birthday Girls. And
Speaker 1: you go to a Portly to have a little little
Speaker 1: number two and you go in there and you drop
Speaker 1: your earring that you were wearing. It's special hearing to
Speaker 1: you that Dan gave you and it's falling straight down
Speaker 1: the putt and you're like a fuck, but it's one
Speaker 1: of them. Portly is like it's aid a trough, you
Speaker 1: know underneath with all the yeah, yeah, effluence of what's
Speaker 1: going on in there, and you're like fucking know that real,
Speaker 1: Like Dad's gonna kill me if I don't get that
Speaker 1: hearing back. And so you sort of reach your hand in.
Speaker 1: It's not you can't reach. You can't reach. You think, well,
Speaker 1: there's enough toilet, baby, I can sort of clean my arms.
Speaker 1: You put your rather army in and then your arms
Speaker 1: slides a bit and you fall head first down. This
Speaker 1: is horrifying. Yeah, but you're you get stuck because you
Speaker 1: get so your top art goes down, wedged you're wedged in,
Speaker 1: but your head has gone straight into the to the ship.
Speaker 1: So your head you can't and you can't move because
Speaker 1: your arms are trapped in the shape of the box.
Speaker 1: You're like that, but your head first in this, in
Speaker 1: this sewage, and your head is in it and you
Speaker 1: can't breathe, and your legs are kicking. You're kicking against
Speaker 1: the door. It's quite dark death and people can hear
Speaker 1: bang it. Yeah, basically you're drowning in ship dragon Grand
Speaker 1: drowning ship and it's it's really horrific to describe it.
Speaker 1: But what Hammers is beating in Camille are looking for you.
Speaker 1: Where the fuck is Rose? Why is she late? We're
Speaker 1: about to go on stage. I heard she went to
Speaker 1: the toilet. Camille comes comes around, knocking on doors. Rose, Rose,
Speaker 1: Rose gets to this door, no sound, but she just
Speaker 1: has a sense and she breaks open the door and
Speaker 1: there's your legs sticking out of the toilet, sort of
Speaker 1: like trainspotting like that. You're just just a pair of yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: pair of legs sticking out of the toilet. But clearly
Speaker 1: they're not moving. And it's not like a heroine hallucination.
Speaker 1: It's no, it's real life. And Camille immediately knows what's happened.
Speaker 1: She construct hearing down the let's go bet. I think
Speaker 1: Roses drowned to around head and shit. And people hear
Speaker 1: this they start laughing, and I'm there and I'm going,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that funny. I mean, I'm worried
Speaker 1: about her. But everyone's laughing and they see the image
Speaker 1: of the legs sticking out of the portal and they go,
Speaker 1: that is funny. This was a good gig. Basically, you
Speaker 1: smashed the gig like it's even better than the first gig.
Speaker 1: But we have to I have to get you out
Speaker 1: of this fucking thing. So we have to actually smash
Speaker 1: up the porterloo just to get you out. Shit everywhere.
Speaker 1: A lot of it's like encrusted on you because you've
Speaker 1: been there quite a while before they found you. I've
Speaker 1: got a coffin with me because I always take a
Speaker 1: coff into latitude, you never know, and so I have
Speaker 1: to chop you up, chop you up all this shit.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing goggles in a mask and gloves because this
Speaker 1: rough anyway get you in the coffin. But there's more
Speaker 1: of you than I was expecting because of all this
Speaker 1: fucking sewage attest to you, stuffed you in. It's absolutely
Speaker 1: jammed in there. It's ram jammed right, there's no room.
Speaker 1: There's only enough room in this coffin for me to
Speaker 1: slide one DVD into the side with you to take
Speaker 1: across to the other side. On the other side. It's
Speaker 1: a movie night. Every night. One night is your movie night.
Speaker 1: What film are you taking to show the citizens of
Speaker 1: Heaven when it's your movie night? Rose Johnson, go, has
Speaker 1: someone already taken dirty Dancing? I think? So? Okay, listen truly, yeah, okay, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Love's Kitchen it's great. No one hasn't
Speaker 1: brought it just because I think you need a bit
Speaker 1: of light and shade. If everyone is taking incredible films,
Speaker 1: you have got no context, You have got nothing to
Speaker 1: compare them to. You don't know when you don't know
Speaker 1: what's bad. And I also think it will be such
Speaker 1: a nice bonding experience for everyone to laugh at it
Speaker 1: and make it into this like. I feel like it
Speaker 1: will become like a like I said, a cult thing
Speaker 1: in Heaven. I love it. I think it's lovely, and
Speaker 1: I hope you don't feel awkward when the writer director
Speaker 1: arrives in Heaven. But by that stage you'll have gone
Speaker 1: for a second. You'll be like I actually do think yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: By that point it will be like the most amazing
Speaker 1: celebrity appearance of all time. Everyone will everyone will yeah,
Speaker 1: And it'll be amazing for him because listen, I've read
Speaker 1: some reviews of Love Kitchen. They ain't good. But I
Speaker 1: imagine when he comes up to Heaven and he gets
Speaker 1: met hero Is welcome. Everything he dreamed of when he
Speaker 1: made the film that never played out on Earth. He
Speaker 1: will get this hero Is. It'll be like the end
Speaker 1: of Titanic, where where you know she's coming, and then
Speaker 1: down the stairs and then everyone's on the stairs Jackson stairs.
Speaker 1: It'll be like that for this guy, but it'll be
Speaker 1: loads of people clapping holding the copy of other's kitchen
Speaker 1: going Bravo. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, that's nice. That's lovely.
Speaker 1: Rose Johnson, You've been wonderful. Is there anything you'd like
Speaker 1: to tell people to look out for, listen, to watch
Speaker 1: or buy in the shops? Yes? Please. I've got a
Speaker 1: podcast with the other Sketcho's Birthday Girls called Birthday Girls
Speaker 1: House Party. I love it. Brad's been on it, and
Speaker 1: we've got a live podcast that we're doing of our
Speaker 1: Birthday Girls House Party at the Underbelly in Cavendish Square
Speaker 1: in London on Saturday, the twenty first of August at
Speaker 1: five pm. And it'll be so fun. It's a mayhem.
Speaker 1: There'll be games, they'll be chaos, there'll be huge over sharing.
Speaker 1: If you think I've told some stories on this podcast,
Speaker 1: just you wait. And we've got Susie Ruffle as our guests,
Speaker 1: so it's going to be a great time. So get
Speaker 1: booking on the Underbelly website. Please highly recommend that, and
Speaker 1: I hope we all get to read your book soon.
Speaker 1: Rose Johnson. I love you, Love you too, Brad, have
Speaker 1: a wonderful debt and I will see you for the
Speaker 1: screening of Love's Kitchen. Thank you, good day. So that
Speaker 1: was episode one hundred and fifty four. Head over to
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