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Speaker 1: All right, ready, I'm nervous, Tony.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what to do with your hands?

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Speaker 3: Get to work, let's do it, ready and lock it in.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: I'm nervous.

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Speaker 1: Do you know how you can start this?

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Speaker 3: I'm nervous this.

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Speaker 2: For three months? John, shouldn't you.

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Speaker 1: Let the professional do the introduction?

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Speaker 3: No, he's he's he's put a lot of work into

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Speaker 3: this. This is be good?

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Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, thanks.

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Speaker 3: I'm like the arm camp. He's the talent and they

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Speaker 3: are the true Craig. Shut up, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Should have been rolling now.

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Speaker 2: Oh perfect, Okay, I'm nervous. That's this. Welcome this week's

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Speaker 2: episode of The Loveable Reunion. Three time World Series champion,

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Speaker 2: five time All Star, top five in the cy Young

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Speaker 2: three different times, two hundred career wins, and an insane

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Speaker 2: four and one world series record with a one seven

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Speaker 2: seven e r A and fell little cancer survivor, Johnny

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Speaker 2: fucking Leicester.

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Speaker 4: Yes, number thirty four in your programs, number one in

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Speaker 4: our hearts.

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Speaker 1: Just so, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate the left hander.

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Speaker 4: We got so many we got so many nicknames for you,

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Speaker 4: but we got to set the scene.

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Speaker 3: All right, We're here.

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Speaker 4: At John's Farm Sanctuary Sanctuary thirty one thirty Boston days.

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Speaker 2: We think it should be thirty four, but.

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Speaker 1: Hey, there was a time and a place when it was.

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Speaker 3: He started making money early.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Actually, on that note, John, how rich are you?

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Speaker 1: Well, Rossie, I'm not rich.

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Speaker 2: I'm wealthy. I have rich people that work for me.

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Speaker 2: I've lived my life by that quote. I don't have

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Speaker 2: any rich people really working for me, so I don't

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Speaker 2: really know where I.

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Speaker 1: Can't fully take that.

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Speaker 5: I stole it from Josh Beckett, so I got to

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Speaker 5: give him credit for that saying.

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Speaker 1: I learned that a long time ago from him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your your cast of veterans that you played with

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Speaker 2: are so intimidating to me years later. Yea, And like

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Speaker 2: any time I ever see Tim Wakefield or Rest in

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Speaker 2: Peace Waki, but Beckett, who is a Josh Tomlin, Timlin,

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Speaker 2: Mike tim Mike Timlin, I'm just terrified of all those

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Speaker 2: guys because of the stories I heard from you. And

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Speaker 2: I walked into that clubhouse one time and Beckett was

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Speaker 2: on the table when I was when you're taking me around,

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Speaker 2: which we'll get into, and I was like so terrified

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Speaker 2: walking to that clubhouse. But do you think I felt, Noah,

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Speaker 2: I know, I've heard all the stories. Johnny. You signing

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Speaker 2: in Chicago in fifteen was it's the greatest signing in

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Speaker 2: Cubs history. And what that simplified for our team was

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Speaker 2: the most amazing feeling. As someone who was there, who

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Speaker 2: lost one hundred games and we stunk and we were

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Speaker 2: getting better, and then all of a sudden, we get

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Speaker 2: Joe Matt and that signs out of nowhere, and then

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Speaker 2: the biggest freege on the market, John Lester, comes and

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Speaker 2: signs with us, and we're like, what is going on?

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Speaker 2: Take us through that free agency process? Take us why

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Speaker 2: you believed in us? Because we stunk and you were

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Speaker 2: the best picture on the market, So why why did

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Speaker 2: you sound with us? How did that go?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 5: I mean, it wasn't an easy process. It was a

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Speaker 5: fun process. Looking back on it, I wish I would

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Speaker 5: It was you know, at the time, when you're going

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Speaker 5: through all of that, it's very stressful because you know,

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Speaker 5: I mean, at the end of the day, I got

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Speaker 5: traded to Oakland and I wanted to go back to Boston,

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Speaker 5: right like, hey, yeah, trade me, we stink. Make your

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Speaker 5: team better, hopefully, and then we'll come back in a

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Speaker 5: of like you break up with your first girlfriend. She

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Speaker 5: then stabs you in the back again.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know, so been there right?

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Speaker 5: I mean, am I saying anyway? But during the whole process,

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Speaker 5: it was the Red Sox the whole time. And then

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Speaker 5: we went up to Chicago met with THEO and Tom

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Speaker 5: as you guys know, THEO, I think can sell ice

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Speaker 5: the team and the vision and all this stuff and

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Speaker 5: no offense to rendery I don't know the man. But

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Speaker 5: once they hired Joe, it was kind of like, all right,

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Speaker 5: this is real, you know what I'm saying. And I

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Speaker 5: mean THEO made it hard not to turn down.

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Speaker 2: I mean what made it hard? John? The was it

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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty seven million?

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Speaker 1: It was fifty five.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, was it the private jet hours that you

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Speaker 5: private jet deal. So we agreed to the deal. Me

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Speaker 5: it hasn't been announced yet. I think they've only told

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Speaker 5: or like we've only told THEO or whatever. Had too

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Speaker 5: the next morning, turn on MLB channel and they're you

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Speaker 5: know how the MLB channel. They scroll across the bottom,

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Speaker 5: like the details of the contract. So I'm sitting there

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Speaker 5: watching it, take kids to school, watching it, and I

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Speaker 5: see twenty five hours on NetJets. I'm like, huh wait

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Speaker 5: I got twenty five hours on net jets.

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Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, we kind of got that in there.

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Speaker 5: I had no idea that was part of the deal

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Speaker 5: when it went down, but that was I mean, to

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Speaker 5: be honest with you, that was the best thing.

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Speaker 4: Well, you had a hard time. I remember coming to

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Speaker 4: the Christmas party you had. Yeah, and San Francisco you said,

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Speaker 3: And then you were like, hey, what do you think Chicago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and like from then on you were just quiet

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Speaker 4: and it was all it was all working.

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Speaker 3: But like that was that was a really big decision.

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Speaker 3: I remember how much of weighing on you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and all your history, your kids growing up, being

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Speaker 1: Yes, we had a house there.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I mean, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to say the Red Sox made it

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Speaker 5: end is, you know, when you're at that point in

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Speaker 5: mine was seven. I wanted seven years, however that looked whatever,

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Speaker 1: You know, get your.

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Speaker 2: Roots in that still legacy. Yeah, like you did get

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Speaker 2: your legacies in Boston and have legacies in Chicago, and

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Speaker 5: Small, very small, and DC and even a smaller one

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Speaker 5: in and they they're at six years, six years, six years,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to go back out to the West Coast,

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Speaker 5: and it's like, how do you do this? How would

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Speaker 4: So you go to Chicago, you have your signing, A

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Speaker 4: big group of you guys went out to celebrate that night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know where you're going with this.

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Speaker 4: Can you walk me through what happened that night?

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Speaker 2: So we go.

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Speaker 1: I forgot even where we were.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming you were overs bub.

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Speaker 5: City, bub City Bubs shout out bub City best fireball

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Speaker 1: It's to home made.

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Speaker 5: In case you guys didn't know, it's their own recipe.

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Speaker 5: Really yeah, it's it's pretty.

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Speaker 1: So we go to bub City.

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Speaker 5: It's THEO Jed me, my family, my agents, and we're

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Speaker 5: you need to sign Rossie.

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, yeah, but you need you need a veteran,

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Speaker 5: when he walks through that door, there's no I'm competing

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Speaker 1: I'm this is my job.

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Speaker 5: I'm here to pick up I think I think we

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Speaker 5: And then he would obviously catch me. So I get

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Speaker 5: to I mean, I'm bugging the hell out of THEO

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Speaker 5: And finally he's.

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Speaker 1: Like, it's two in the morning.

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Speaker 5: We're the only people in Bob City, and he goes,

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Speaker 5: you get him on the phone. We'll work a deal out.

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Speaker 5: As a kid say bet all right, your culture prove it?

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Speaker 1: Like here, okay, here we go. Pull the phone up.

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Speaker 3: Three in the morning, Florida time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I forgot that. So two in the

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Speaker 1: morning and three in the morning. There I called his

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Speaker 3: Now I'm waking up, going, oh John's drunk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like this is the this is I mean,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing? Fo call?

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Speaker 5: But so I'm like, I go, Fair, do you have

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Speaker 5: highless number? And she's like, yeah, I go call her

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Speaker 3: How it goes this is that's that's Era's calling me.

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Speaker 3: Because I was like, who is that? I was like,

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Speaker 3: it's John. He's hammered. She said it's fair. I was like, okay,

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Speaker 3: I should probably answer this.

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Speaker 2: What if you didn't answer, think about how history is yeah,

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Speaker 2: not written the way it looks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank God for Pharaoh. We can pay her for

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Speaker 3: a long yeah damn.

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Speaker 5: So he answered. He highly gives him the phone. I'm like, hey, bro,

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Speaker 5: I'm sitting here with THEO. Do you want to come

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Speaker 5: And he don't say a word, and he sits there

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Speaker 3: I will go to the next morning.

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Speaker 4: My agent was so, I said, I think I just

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Speaker 2: You came in, though, and you completely shifted the culture there.

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Speaker 1: I probably wasn't the most sociable person, but I disagree.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you just got to get break down the barriers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to get past the resting bitch face.

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Speaker 2: But don't go I don't ever get any compliments.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was like, why is everybody like you?

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Speaker 2: I just bro We were in whenever we went back

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Speaker 2: there's no fucking price for Johnny Lester. I should have

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Speaker 2: got him when he was on sale, referencing they signed

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Speaker 1: It's different.

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Speaker 2: It's different. And Chicago was one of those places as well.

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Speaker 5: It very much is, and you know, it's it's a

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Speaker 4: Well, you guys had a Boston connection you should talk about.

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Speaker 2: Well did the dude you signing too? Was like full

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Speaker 2: You're gonna feel good, You're gonna feel bad on days

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Speaker 5: Well, and especially with cancer, man, it's so hard because

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Speaker 1: Now that you say that, I actually no, I do

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Speaker 2: Please John, don't. This is why they say don't meet

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00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 2: your heroes, just give it to me. But then in

440
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, we're at the same All Star game and

441
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 2: another full circle moment for me. Right, this is a

442
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 2: guy I like leaned on hard through my cancer treatment

443
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,360
Speaker 2: and process, and I like go up to him like, hey,

444
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,439
Speaker 2: like kind of remember me, and he did or he

445
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 2: played it off like he did.

446
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 1: I did.

447
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,719
Speaker 2: You still play it off and we're talking. I'm just hey, man, like,

448
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 2: Chicago's a great place, trying to recruit him that in Minnesota,

449
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 2: and then you sign it. It's just like it was

450
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 2: the best feeling ever, but I left out after I fainted.

451
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 2: His very next start was his arguably most special start

452
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Speaker 2: of your career. Which I take full credit for. He

453
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 2: threw a no hitter. You remind me he threw a

454
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 2: no hitter after he met with me and the Italian

455
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 2: family that I have. It's all numbers and signs, So

456
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 2: him throwing the no hitter was signs from the heavens.

457
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 2: It was all for me.

458
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 3: It felt bad for you. Yeah, yeah, a little vand

459
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 3: in front of that's so great?

460
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 4: All right, I want to fast forward to sixteen. All right, Yeah,

461
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 4: we talked a little bit about that. I'm going to

462
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 4: read off your stats nineteen and five a two O

463
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Speaker 4: two era thirty two games started, two hundred and two innings,

464
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 4: second in the cy Young lowest era, and whip of

465
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Speaker 4: your career two complete games, three and one in the playoffs,

466
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 4: six games five started, thirty five innings in the postseason

467
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Speaker 4: with a two to oh two.

468
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Speaker 3: What's your favorite stat in that?

469
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: Seriously, two hundred inings.

470
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Speaker 3: I knew you were going to say that you loved posting, bro.

471
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 2: Why, I know why.

472
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Speaker 5: If you would have read this starts, I probably would

473
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 5: have gone one one A starts and then one B

474
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 5: innings because it means you means that I'm accountable for

475
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 5: my teammates. The hardest part of a picture. So like

476
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 5: you guys, you know later in your career you didn't

477
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 5: play every day, but you had to post every day

478
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 5: right like you were there, something hits the fane. You

479
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 5: got to go in the game. You gotta be ready

480
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 5: my ass for four days, go team, I have no

481
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Speaker 5: I have If.

482
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean I saw your skip for

483
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: those four days and it was literally a dream golf

484
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: Come on now. The next day was some sort of

485
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 2: fast food in the clubhouse. The myth issue.

486
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Speaker 5: If it was a day game, yes, If it was

487
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 5: a night game, well probably feels golfing.

488
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 2: But definitely you know what you know you taught me,

489
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: which you never even talked about this. It was just

490
00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 2: by example. And leading by example is you literally, as

491
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 2: a pitcher would stay out all night. You'd have fun

492
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: and enjoy. But the next day I saw you one

493
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: of the first guys in the weight room busting your ass,

494
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 2: and it's like you didn't need to do that, Like

495
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: your resume and your pedigree spoke for itself, but to

496
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 2: see you do that after the night out meant more

497
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 2: than just to see you do it after a good

498
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 2: start or something, because that's what it takes to be

499
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: a professional, and seeing you do that every day, weekend

500
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: and week out was like, it was so cool to

501
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: watch you.

502
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Speaker 5: And I mean they learned that in Boston with you know,

503
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 5: with Beckett, and you know, I kind of got thrown

504
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 5: under his his wing early in his in my career,

505
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 5: early in his career, and Beckett was that way. It

506
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 5: was just hey man, you got to out prepare the

507
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 5: other guy, you know. And I never looked I wasn't

508
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 5: like Sheill would always look at who he was facing

509
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 5: in five days and be like, all right, I'm gonna

510
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 5: he wasn't. He was big in the weight room, but

511
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 5: not big in the weight room. He was more of

512
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 5: a I'm gonna outstudy this guy. I'm going to have

513
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 5: a better game plan than him, I'm going to last

514
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 5: longer in the game than him, and I'm I'm just

515
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 5: going to outperform him. He was thinking, like I'm competing

516
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 5: against that guy. I never liked that analogy. I like

517
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 5: because I don't ever face that dude, right, Like, I'm

518
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 5: not I'm not going against him, he's pitching on the

519
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 5: other side. I'm going against the team, right And so

520
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 5: like I learned that if I'm prepared, and my teammates

521
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 5: know I'm prepared, they're going to play harder behind me.

522
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 5: Not to say that people take games off or plays

523
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 5: off or whatever, but we were ready.

524
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you took what I'm saying, like you knew that

525
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: I had ready.

526
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: We had you and we had him, so we knew

527
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 2: we were What was the line you said yesterday with

528
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 2: the three pound fishing pool.

529
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: Oh you couldn't put a three pound fishing line in

530
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 1: my ass.

531
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: That was That was all most of the defenders, like

532
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: everyone was on edge as far as like you better

533
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: be fucking ready and the same with life you you, Yeah,

534
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: like the Cowboys demanded that respect and it it was real.

535
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 4: Well when you guys, you we watched you prepare obviously

536
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 4: like I just caught you, but like you had a

537
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 4: you were the most routine oriented pitcher I've ever been around.

538
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 2: I could take it through your entire routine right now. Yeah,

539
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: it starts the day before you're doing your film, sometime

540
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: before the game, uh after the game, the night before

541
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: you start, you pour yourself a stiff crown in sprite,

542
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 2: right as a sleeper. As a sleeper, you get in,

543
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: you do your.

544
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: Flush day right. It's like you it was that the treadmill.

545
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: No, this is this is the start day, the start day.

546
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 2: You get in, you do your bobs. Tewksberry shout outs,

547
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 2: one of the greatest sports psychologists.

548
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 3: Put his headphones in.

549
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 2: Headphones, do your cards, go over your skinner report again,

550
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: take your little cat nap and then you throw on Well,

551
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: first off, I forgot the Superstition's boxers. Are you wearing

552
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: those today?

553
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: No, I'm not.

554
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: John had these boxers that he wore that two pair,

555
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: one pair.

556
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 5: I wore so much the crops got worn out of

557
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 5: them and I actually took them to a tailor had

558
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 5: new fabric put in them.

559
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 3: And then you're a lucky boxer.

560
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hadn't heard that.

561
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 5: And then, uh, for Christmas one year, my wife got

562
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 5: tired of seeing these holy boxers, so she got me

563
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 5: a set. So normally I wear like the tight ones,

564
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 5: the briefs or whatever they're called.

565
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, but on start Day they're like the loose the

566
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: loose ones.

567
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 5: Okay, And so one Christmas she gets me these this

568
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 5: box of three from Ralph Laurin or whatever, and gets

569
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 5: the Sanctuary logo put on them. And they're all three

570
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 5: different colors. So in spring training that year, I had

571
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 5: test runs, so like I wore.

572
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: This pair, Yeah, which one?

573
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 5: If I pitched good in this one, all right, we're

574
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 5: gonna give this one another run if it doesn't go

575
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 5: well to the next one. And then by the season

576
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 5: I had a pair and then I wore that pair

577
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 5: of the rest of the time.

578
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 3: And the end the Camo cam.

579
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Speaker 2: That was like I remember too, like you being one

580
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 2: of my guys. I looked up to the most and

581
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: I tried to get that and you had the lifts

582
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: cleats that one year. It was like we did that

583
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: a couple of years.

584
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cool.

585
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: But then you do that, then you then you just

586
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: start with the laser focusing in yeaheah.

587
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 6: But your superstition five o'clock, the five o'clock five o'clock

588
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 6: is I always had to go to you and do

589
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 6: the scouting report because he'd be getting rubbed down on

590
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 6: the table and we just go over the scouting part

591
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 6: again for like you had already done it and you

592
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 6: were if you had anything, it was it was like, hey,

593
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 6: we want to throw this guy cut her in.

594
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 4: He'd be like no, no, Back'd be like no, no, no, babies,

595
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 4: no babies.

596
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 3: Back the no babies, back door no babies. I was like, okay,

597
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 3: we're throwing the back door cutter. This guy it was

598
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: you were you were you? Weres a professional well of

599
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: a play.

600
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 5: But also too like I realized at an early age

601
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 5: with the routine. You know, I get kind of thrown

602
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 5: in to Game four of the World Series and seven.

603
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 5: You know, I'm twenty two years old and I'm in

604
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 5: the bullpen coming off cancer. The year before, Yeah, coming

605
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 5: off cancer. I had no eyebrows. I had less hair

606
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 5: than I have now when I showed up the spring

607
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 5: training and you know, go through the season, up and

608
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 5: down the season, like just physically mentally, get called up,

609
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 5: went down for a start, YadA, YadA, get to the playoffs,

610
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 5: and you know, luckily John Ferrell I heard this later on.

611
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: He fought for me to be on the roster. Fought

612
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: he wanted to be on the roster.

613
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 5: He thought that I could be, you know, some sort

614
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 5: of guy in the bullpen that could help out or whatever.

615
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: So I'm in the bullpen.

616
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 5: Way he pitches game I think it was Game four

617
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 5: in Cleveland and comes out because he's hurt. He hurt

618
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 5: his arm, and so I get called in the office

619
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 5: after we win, and they're like, hey, you're going to

620
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 5: get a start in this series at some point.

621
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: Well, now I'm back to being a starter.

622
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: So what do you do?

623
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 5: You immediately fall right back into your routine, right, And

624
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 5: I just remember being so nervous going out there. But

625
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, I have you know, lake kicks here,

626
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 5: I have this stretch or I have just kept falling

627
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 5: back to that, right, Like I'd get to the outfield

628
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 5: and I'd look around and start, you know, getting the jitters.

629
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 5: All right, what am I doing? What is my warm

630
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 5: up routine?

631
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: Coming back?

632
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 5: And then now you start throwing, and first throw you're like,

633
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 5: oh god, okay, all right, where do I go from here?

634
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 5: You know, I do ten throws here, and then I

635
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 5: go here, and then I then you get into the

636
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 5: bullpen and now, like my routine was so locked in

637
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 5: from my warm up that everything just went away. Now

638
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 5: it's like, all right, three fastballs, three fastballs, this.

639
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: This boom boom boom. Now you get in the game.

640
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: Now you're pitching.

641
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 5: And so at an early age, I learned like all

642
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 5: the routine actually calms you down, you know what I'm saying.

643
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: Like, So then from that moment on I was like,

644
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: this is what I'm doing.

645
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it prepares yes, way to handle it.

646
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: So what happened with what got lost? Between spring training

647
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: all the PFPS and backfield work. What happened? Where was

648
00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: the routine on pickoffs?

649
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: There was an o routine?

650
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: No I know, but we did it. We nailed it. Yeah,

651
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: we did it. Took a very long time, we got it.

652
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: But what the fuck happened?

653
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 5: So I tell people this, if I knew, I would

654
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 5: fix it.

655
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: We fixed it, though, Well, it's.

656
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 5: Easy when it's just like when you go, you know,

657
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 5: I tell I have you know, playing golf and stuff

658
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 5: with people and you get to know new guys and

659
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 5: you know, they get a few beverages in them and

660
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 5: they think they could have liquid courage and ask whatever

661
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 5: they want. And they ask about that, and I go, hey,

662
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 5: with all due respect, with all due respect, I'm like, hey, dude,

663
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 5: have you ever stood over a chip and you're like,

664
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 5: I got this and then all of a sudden you

665
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 5: spas them and you can't hit it.

666
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: They go, oh yeah all the time. I go like,

667
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: it's the same thing.

668
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: What did it feel like?

669
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: Though?

670
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: When we picked off Tommy Famo that later the announcers

671
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: were talking shit too.

672
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: Oh Tommy fans just steal Timcarver.

673
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: I'm over there literally like John, I got you, just

674
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: throw it.

675
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 4: And I hate it when we started throwing over because

676
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, I love throwing these guys out there trying

677
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 4: to He's like under a one to the plate, you know,

678
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 4: like yeah.

679
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: Well, and that's so good.

680
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 5: That's the other part. Yeah, like the reporters out throwing over.

681
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 5: The reporters ask you about it, and I'm like, listen,

682
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 5: you know, in life, if you're not good at something,

683
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 5: you try to get better at something else to basically

684
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 5: negate that.

685
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: Sure, right, So I knew I was not good at that.

686
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, not good is probably not the right word

687
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 5: to say terrible at that, And I knew, okay. In

688
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 5: order to hopefully fix this, if some capacity also shout

689
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 5: out to Joe, Joe was great with it. If there

690
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 5: if there was any other manager, it would have been

691
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 5: way worse. We would have been an issue and it

692
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 5: wouldn't have been handled properly. Joe handled it great, and

693
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 5: he's the one that taught me. He's like, if you're

694
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 5: not good at something, get better at something else. So

695
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 5: I said, okay, I'm going to and you know in

696
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 5: today's game with the pitch clock, obviously it would be

697
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 5: Nolan Boyd. But I got better at holding the ball

698
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 5: bar in my look, slidestepping. We implemented the the modified

699
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 5: pitch out. You know you did things over at first base,

700
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 5: having hobby at second base with the tag.

701
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: Oh no, we may do. Yeah, yeah, we may do.

702
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 5: But like so twenty fifteenth, for example, I think gave

703
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 5: up like forty stolen bases led the league in that.

704
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 5: So I had to come to Jesus in the offseason,

705
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 5: all right, if I'm not good at this, what can

706
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 5: I do? And worked on those things. I think the

707
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 5: next year we gave up twelve.

708
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I stunked to start it too, Like I

709
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 4: wasn't throwing good. I remember to start that season, had

710
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 4: had to do a lot of that was just you know, you.

711
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 3: Found your you.

712
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 4: We worked on it in spring training. Remember we started

713
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: like the bounce pass on some of the bunks and

714
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 4: different stuff like, but it was we knew they were going.

715
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 4: It was like and you were so fast.

716
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: It was funny. We had, like you said, we had

717
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: risen hobby.

718
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 4: It made it a lot of fun I want to

719
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 4: go back to we talked about those stats, and I

720
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: look back.

721
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: On twenty sixteen. Do you have a favorite start outside

722
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: the let's let's put the playoffs aside. Do you have

723
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: a favorite start that year?

724
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: Because you got off to a little you put so

725
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 4: much pressure on yourself. Yeah, you came in there. I

726
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 4: remember coming in the dugout once that was like a

727
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 4: third start, and you you were just okay, and you

728
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 4: came up in the dugout and you were like you.

729
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: Got anything, you see anything? And I was lost.

730
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 4: I was like, compete, just fucking I was losing my

731
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 4: mind because if if you got take another game, didn't

732
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 4: do good. I didn't get to play, Just so we know,

733
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: I didn't get my last at bat. If he came

734
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 4: out of the game, it wasn't any did you get to.

735
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 5: Play if it was the bus, or if it was

736
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 5: a hotel room, or if it was in the club.

737
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 5: I think it was in the clubhouse because I think

738
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 5: you kind of embarrassed me in front of everybody.

739
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: But he comes in and one of those mediocre starts.

740
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 5: And you know, I think we're all we ended up

741
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 5: winning the game, we're all high five and afterwards doing

742
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 5: the party thing. And he comes in and he goes,

743
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 5: damn it, John, He goes, if you would pitch better,

744
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 5: I could get more at bats.

745
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,239
Speaker 3: He goes, if you stink, I don't get to hit.

746
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: I remember it well. But you said the story about

747
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: was it coming into thirteen being like accountable, And I

748
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: know you weren't happy with your twenty fifteen year, which

749
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: ended up being a really good year. It was just

750
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: it was a grind for you all year, right, like

751
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: peaks and valleys, but ended up being a solid year.

752
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: When we get swept by the Mets, Fucking Daniel Murphy

753
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: still have nightmares. But we come into spring training in

754
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: sixteen and everyone's like, we're we have already won the

755
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: World Series, and that really started with you. You're like,

756
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: we already won. Just press play like the script. He

757
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: had shirts for us made literally with buck boats.

758
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 5: On them, right, that's a Johnny Gomes thing. Yeah, to

759
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 5: go back before I answer that, To go back to

760
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,959
Speaker 5: your question, there's two starts that stand out in my mind.

761
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 5: One ended up being a good start, didn't start out

762
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 5: very well. The other one was probably my favorite one

763
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 5: because I didn't expect to get the opportunity to finish

764
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 5: the game. But we had a late season game in Pittsburgh,

765
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 5: tight race, two to one game.

766
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: I get in.

767
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 5: A jam in the eighth, end up punching out the

768
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 5: dude that uh Coglin broke his leg the shortstop. Yeah yeah,

769
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 5: Kim South Korean Korean and struck him out. Big situation.

770
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 5: I'm out already at like I think I'm at like

771
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 5: that hundred mark fist pump fuck. Yeah, let's go give

772
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 5: it to the closing. Like I'm walking off the mountain

773
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 5: thinking because Joe usual didn't let you go, especially a

774
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 5: close game. I getting the DOUG and I sit down.

775
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, somebody shake my hand.

776
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm like Boss, Joe, nobody, all right, here we go.

777
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 5: And then Boss comes down with like one out or

778
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 5: two outs and he's like, hey you good. I said, yeah,

779
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 5: let's go. And we end up finishing that game, and

780
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 5: I like, not that I was happy he gave me

781
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 5: the opportunity, but I was happy he gave me the

782
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 5: opportunity to finish that game.

783
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: Then the other one September two September, it was a priority.

784
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: Clinched about it, No.

785
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 1: We were.

786
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: It was on the verge.

787
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't quite there, but it was a big

788
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 5: game against them, and you know, one of those deals,

789
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 5: the other one ended up being a good game. Uhnck

790
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 5: went seven, seven or eight? Day game in Atlanta home?

791
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: Was that the Freddie Freeman day? Oh my gosh.

792
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 5: So we're in the I'm in there getting rubbed down

793
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 5: before the game. ROSSI comes in. We're going over the thing,

794
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 5: and I'm like, hey, I like, I like.

795
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 4: First of all, he hometown, like, lives in Atlanta, wants

796
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 4: to beat him bad day game. I was a brave

797
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 4: You always want to beat your former team, right, Like,

798
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 4: it's just kind of natural.

799
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: So we're locked in day game. It's hot as heck,

800
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 3: and it's one hundred and sixty four agre.

801
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you're seven feet from hell Ol Turner.

802
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, so actually that wasn't sixteen, that was fifteeneen.

803
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: So anyway, sorry, I got me years wrong, but played.

804
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 5: Yes.

805
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: So we go over the.

806
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 5: Thing and I'm like, hey, I like two strike breaking

807
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 5: ball to Freddy like Chase. He goes, no, you cannot

808
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 5: throw a strike breaking ball to him?

809
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: You can?

810
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 4: He murders, well, yeah, vers is forty seven miles.

811
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 3: I mean you can't.

812
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 5: So it's not about man, It's not about so anyway.

813
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 5: So first inning, something happens. Guy gets on second base,

814
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 5: two outs, Freddy's up, and I'm shaking and shaking and shaking,

815
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 5: and you can see ROSSI. He's just sitting back there,

816
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 5: going and keeps throwing stuff down and he won't put

817
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 5: down curveball time.

818
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: He looks at me. He goes, curveball, yep, don't bury it.

819
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: Base it the right. We're down one nothing. We come

820
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: in the dugout. He yard sales his whole catcher's gear here.

821
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: He goes, fuck it.

822
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: Just throw it, just throw whatever you want.

823
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 5: I'm not putting down any more. Signs you throw it,

824
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 5: I'll catch it. And I'm like following him like a

825
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 5: lost puppy dog. Come on, bro, don't give up on me.

826
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: Don't give up.

827
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 5: Almost that I meant to bounce it. He goes, but

828
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 5: I told you no strike breaking both John.

829
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: We just went over it.

830
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: We just went Do you think I did it on purpose?

831
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: He goes, no, but throw whatever you want.

832
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 5: So we sit down. We're in the air conditioning, we're

833
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 5: all drinking our water. Three outs, go to run out.

834
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 5: He goes, all right, we're good.

835
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: You had to get off your chest.

836
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was that was so mad.

837
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 5: It was I mean, it was hot, it was all this,

838
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 5: but you pitched, you did pitch. We we end up

839
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 5: winning the game.

840
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: We get off to historic twenty seven to nine start.

841
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: We're rolling, right what it was? Yeah, we were, we

842
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: were rolling, Yeah, and everyone, I mean spring training, we

843
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: already had the mindset of we're winning the World Series,

844
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: there's no one stopping us, and we get off to

845
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: this start. For me, there was a few games that

846
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 2: set out early on, but I want to know from

847
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: you what stood out on that team early that was like,

848
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: holy shit, we're gonna We're gonna do this.

849
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 5: I just feel like we were relentless early, you know

850
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 5: what I mean, And like when we had a chance

851
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 5: to step on somebody's throat, we stepped on it early

852
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 5: and we made a point and Joe Joel was harped

853
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 5: on it. I remember Joe spring training, He's like, all

854
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 5: I care about y'all get off to a fast start. Yeah,

855
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 5: that's all he talked about. Quick start, because if you

856
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 5: don't get off to that quick start, there's gonna be

857
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 5: a team that does. And now you're chasing and that's

858
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 5: hard to do. But I just remember we freaking we

859
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 5: came out and it was like, I mean we were

860
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 5: in LA and it was like.

861
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: And we just went dinner. How much did we spend

862
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: out that team dinner?

863
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 5: Well, we talked about last night. I thought it was more,

864
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 5: but I think we agreed it was fifteen.

865
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: It was it was over fifteen because I think THEO

866
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: had told us like, hey, we're going to give you

867
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 4: this much money.

868
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: We're coming from Vegas.

869
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 2: Let's losch So we have spring two spring training games

870
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: in Vegas, which we blow it out on. But they'd

871
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: only wanted us there for one or two nights, not

872
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: the third night. We had it off heay, so they're like,

873
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna like they're forcing us to go

874
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: to Anaheim. Whin whole team wanted to stay in Vegas

875
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: because we all wanted to enjoy. And so THEO and

876
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: mister Ricketts agreed that they would buy us a huge

877
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: team dinner, which once John came over, he was usually

878
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 2: the one him and Lackey would fight for who's paying

879
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: for the team dinners. And we have this beautiful team

880
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: dinner and then we go out we roll.

881
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: L Angels Angels. Yeah, it was the Angels.

882
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: We take I think two three I'm saying from the Diamondbacks.

883
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 3: Sure, we got hurt.

884
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: Shore, we got hurt. Lacky gave up like five.

885
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: Or six early, and we end up winning that game.

886
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: We ended up destroying them in that game.

887
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: A lead off homer, yeah, he was.

888
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: He never does that first fastball. Here it comes and

889
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 4: he nobody ever swings. Yeah, and he gave them a homer.

890
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 2: But what was were some things just being relentless.

891
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

892
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: And then because getting off to the good start was

893
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: key because I thought.

894
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 4: The messaging in spring training you're talking about, Joe, The

895
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:59,959
Speaker 4: messaging in spring training was so like, expectations are good. Embrace, yeah, right,

896
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 4: embrace it embraced the targets, target which the targets on

897
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 4: our back because we went so far and everybody came

898
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 4: in hungry. So that was the most fun spring trade

899
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 4: decks came back.

900
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: We had a decks from that.

901
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 3: I was retiring. You guys make it fun.

902
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: We had all the skits with Bussy singing, the Kawasaki singing, Yeah,

903
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: the karaoke, the karaoke played drops of Jupiter on the

904
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: piano about me.

905
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: It was a good time. It was a good time.

906
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: I want to go back.

907
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 4: You brought up something that we're just thinking about stories here.

908
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 4: But you said Pittsburgh. Yeah, I want to hear I

909
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 4: want to hear the Pittsburgh story when you came in

910
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 4: yelling at Riz bro We so.

911
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: That was right before the All Star break, right, and

912
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: we said Sunday morning before the All Star break. Keep

913
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: in mind, now we have two birds, because there's twelve

914
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: of us going to the All Star Game or whatever.

915
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: We have two private planes waiting for us after the game.

916
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: The morning of the game we roll in. We lost

917
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: nine of ten. We're getting shelled. If the offense does well,

918
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: the pitching sucked. Pitching does well, offense sucked. I'm riding high.

919
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: I go into the All Star break raaking. I'm like fourteen.

920
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: I'm like twelve or fifteen in that series, like on

921
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: a high. The game before John gives up three or

922
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: four runs, we end up losing. I go four for

923
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: five in the game.

924
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: I think I give up six with a homer.

925
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, homer, shy of the cycle. It's not about.

926
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 5: I have not.

927
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: Remember well.

928
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 2: I remember this because I'm in the weight room the

929
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 2: Sunday morning before they all staring, and I knew that

930
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 2: night when the quote came out, I was like fuck.

931
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: I texted our media relations guy, Peter Chase, and I

932
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: was like, hey, this came out wrong, Like, is it

933
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: that bad? He's talking me off the ledge because I

934
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: know what's what's coming. So you read the quote please, Yeah,

935
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: I have the quote here.

936
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: Well before you read the quote, do you know how

937
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: I found out about that?

938
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 5: Oh?

939
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: I know, fucking Travis Woods. I know. I know. This

940
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: game isn't easy, said Anthony Rizzo, who went four for

941
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: five and was a home run shy of the cycle.

942
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: Feel myself, it's impossible to boat race the whole season

943
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: like we were doing. We just have to clean up

944
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 2: our pitching a little. We're talking, we're walking too many guys,

945
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 2: and that's not the formula. We've had a formula playing

946
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,959
Speaker 2: good baseball, and we don't have it right now. Maybe

947
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: we have to mix a few cocktails together and figure

948
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 2: it out. But that's what it comes down to. I

949
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: knew right away when I said the pitching.

950
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: Also, if you read the whole thing, it's not as bad.

951
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: But John comes in Wood. He showed me John comes

952
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: in the next day start before the all stream. He's

953
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: not pitching the all Stagram right, No, So he's had

954
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 2: a good night, And I'm in the weight room. We're

955
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: watching Me and Tim Buster are watching Joel Ostein. Right,

956
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: it was like our Sunday mornings. They have a small,

957
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: little small weight the tiny little screen and Joel Ostin's on,

958
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 2: or one of the shows are on. And I'm rolling

959
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: on the ground like socks, just shorts and like maybe

960
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 2: a shirt and foam, rolling in such a vulnerable position.

961
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: And John comes in after Travis wood runs John, look

962
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: what Anthony said, Look what Rizzo said, like your little brother.

963
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: And he comes in. I've never seen him, this mad face,

964
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: beat red, lip quivering, standing over me.

965
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 7: If you ever fucking talk about our pitching staff again,

966
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 7: I'll fucking kill you.

967
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm so vulnerable, Like.

968
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 5: It wasn't the best choice of words that I said,

969
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 5: but obviously the night before was my start, so I

970
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 5: was still pissed. Sure, Like I said, if you read

971
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 5: the whole when you just read that off, that's the

972
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,479
Speaker 5: first time I've ever heard the whole thing, of course,

973
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 5: because what it doesn't sound as bad as when Woody

974
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 5: just shows you we need to clean up our pitching staff.

975
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 7: If you we need to clean up our fucking you

976
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 7: never fucking talked about and I'm just looking at him like,

977
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 7: and I just remember the only thing I said to him,

978
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 7: and he couldn't do anything about it, say I'm sorry, John, I.

979
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: Messed up, and he didn't know what to do, and

980
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 2: he just kept quivering and he just walked out and

981
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: like the whole Later on we hugged it out and

982
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,479
Speaker 2: calmed down, but I.

983
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 3: Was so stift.

984
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 4: Part of that is when you bring over winning players

985
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 4: and re establishing culture, right, It's like, you know, we

986
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 4: used to get pissed if somebody had a is always

987
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 4: there in front of their locker in.

988
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: A good game. You got to be there in the

989
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: bad game, you know what I mean?

990
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 4: Like you got to talk to the media like that's

991
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 4: a thing you're establishing as winners. And that's basically as

992
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 4: a veteran, a guy with two World Series rings coming

993
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 4: in and going, hey man, we don't bash each other

994
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 4: and that we're don't bash each other, and to the

995
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 4: media like you got like, I no shit, I wasn't

996
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 4: any good, you know, But that's that's the standard you

997
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 4: were brought up with in the winning culture. And it's

998
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 4: like that's how I think, that's how winning basically you.

999
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: Taught me a lesson that day that I carried with

1000
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: me for the rest of my exactly career. And by

1001
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 2: doing that, I grew up and I became a better leader.

1002
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: And when it was my turn to go talk to someone,

1003
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: I didn't scream at him, because as I got older,

1004
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: the culture changed and you can't get the old school cowboys.

1005
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 5: But I also knew at that time in our in

1006
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 5: our relationship and our friendship. I knew that by me

1007
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 5: saying that to you, in five minutes, you would be

1008
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 5: fine with it, and in five minutes I would be

1009
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 5: fine with it.

1010
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: If I did that to.

1011
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 5: Another player, yeah, it would be a long thing for

1012
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 5: the whole you know, like I knew. And also too,

1013
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 5: I knew if I did it loud enough that somebody

1014
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 5: out here might hear it and be like, what did

1015
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 5: Anthony say and look at it and go, oh, okay,

1016
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 5: I need to pay attention to what I'm saying now, right.

1017
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,479
Speaker 5: I hate the fact that you were the guinea pig

1018
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 5: on it, but no.

1019
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: I love it.

1020
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: You know, it is what it is.

1021
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 3: I was. I was so it was like that your career.

1022
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: I was eating dog. After that, I was so scared.

1023
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: But again and then after we go to the All

1024
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: Star Game and we have a great time.

1025
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean ten minutes later, we're fine.

1026
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's what that team was. That was the

1027
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: bond we had. And then we go into the All

1028
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: Star Game, and then we go into the end of July.

1029
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: We're playing the Mariners Sunday Night Baseball. We have a

1030
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 2: huge i mean, I'm talking the biggest road trip of

1031
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: the year coming up right, that's been playing out for

1032
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: numerous reasons, for numerous reasons that we're going to get

1033
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: to after the this play, and THEO calls you guys

1034
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: into the office with Joe and they they're playing Seattle

1035
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: Sunday Night Baseball and they want to give the starters

1036
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: a rest, right.

1037
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: And I think we had won the first two games.

1038
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: We're going for the sweet.

1039
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: Oh bro, we were rolling.

1040
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 3: We're rolling.

1041
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: We were rolling, we were rolling. So we bring up

1042
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: a starter to a spot start.

1043
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 5: And also, nothing against Brian Matis. It's not Brian Madis's fault.

1044
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: No, it's just our team. Read our team was so solidified, right,

1045
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: there's nothing that can break us. Well, we bring up

1046
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 2: us for a spot start to give the guys a arrest,

1047
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,959
Speaker 2: and everyone's like, why fuck with why fuck with us?

1048
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: Like this is working, and he ends up giving up

1049
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: a bunch of runs early and we come back, and

1050
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: that comeback was like probably the biggest moment I think

1051
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: of the season for us, of like nothing can stop

1052
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: us because I know this. The starters were all kind

1053
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: of pissed off, like you're skipping my turn, like you're

1054
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: messing with our routine. You guys are creatures of habit.

1055
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 5: When it wasn't only that, it's the fact that it's

1056
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 5: almost like when you're rolling and Joe's like, hey, I'm

1057
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 5: gonna give you a day.

1058
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it didn't happen.

1059
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 2: It didn't happen.

1060
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, no, now, it's not

1061
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 5: when I'm rolling, you roll me out there until I

1062
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 5: don't have it anymore. And that's kind of the starter

1063
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 5: because we had pitched so bad leading up to the

1064
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 5: break and we all came back and it was like

1065
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 5: we're back.

1066
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 2: They were pissed. Yeah, well I remember the starting staff

1067
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 2: and it wasn't like legit, man.

1068
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's because we were we were back. We were rolling.

1069
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: Everybody was.

1070
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 5: It was we were feeding off each other, it was going,

1071
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 5: it was it was good vibe, and we all knew

1072
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 5: we had that off day coming up. And then every

1073
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 5: you just follow the off day, right, everybody just gets

1074
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 5: that extra day. Well, they wanted to give us two

1075
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 5: extra days. Yep, because go ahead, Sorry.

1076
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: No, no, it's And so we come back in this

1077
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: game on Sunday Night baseball, which at the time was

1078
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: the biggest deal to have Sunday Night baseball. And we're rallying, right,

1079
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 2: and the old school away. When you're rallying, the starters

1080
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: are in the clubhouse, throwing back some pops, having some

1081
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: rally beers. So not only did you have a suicide squeeze,

1082
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 2: but I want to know, a.

1083
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 4: Suicide squeeze to win the game. I've still got my shirt.

1084
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 4: I shud broad day bunt to win?

1085
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 2: Johnny, we bring Lester in. It was like the tenth

1086
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: or eleventh, isn't extra inning, Well, we'll check the tap.

1087
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: Suicide squeezed, walk off wind Like big comeback had to

1088
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: be a few pops deep because you were always for

1089
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: the boys. But it was such a significant moment for

1090
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: us looking back because of the unity that we all

1091
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,479
Speaker 2: came afterwards. What happened afterwards is something you never see

1092
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 2: and you probably will never see again with walking into

1093
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: the clubhouse with THEO.

1094
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got so much respect for THEO to that.

1095
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 5: I mean I had respect for him, you know before

1096
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 5: and in any profession, you're gonna have disagreements with your bosses, right,

1097
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 5: like total nature, that's life.

1098
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: But for him to come down and be like, hey,

1099
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: that's on me.

1100
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: He was apologizing to our team, to the whole team. Yeah,

1101
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: and it wasn't anything against Brian mattis great dude. Yeah,

1102
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: it was just what our team was building. And then

1103
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 2: you just he kind of they claimed off waivers and

1104
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: he came up for just a spot start, and it

1105
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 2: was like him saying that to us was like wow,

1106
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: like this is this is another reason why we're so special,

1107
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 2: another reason why we're going to win the last game

1108
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: of the year.

1109
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, his accountability in that moment.

1110
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: Was which you just don't see. He's stele Epstein, he's

1111
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: you know prom Yeah, he's a Hall of Famer and

1112
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 2: he's incredible. So come to find out the next trip,

1113
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: which we all knew was going on, mister Lester, the

1114
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 2: most generous player I've ever played with in my entire career.

1115
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 3: The greatest road trip of all time.

1116
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: Of all time. We're going out west. We're going to Oakland.

1117
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: We have an off day in Oakland, Thursday off day.

1118
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 2: So we fly out Wednesday, Wednesday night we land or

1119
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: Wednesday day game. We land Thursday. At San Francisco Airport.

1120
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: John has a private plane for all the boys, the

1121
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 2: eight of us to fly to Pebble Beach to play

1122
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 2: Bebble Beach two nights day.

1123
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, we got in that night, played the next day. No.

1124
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I that's that was the whole point of

1125
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 5: the of the of the why I got mad of.

1126
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: The pitching change. Okay, yes, we were rolling.

1127
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 5: Personally, I was mad because I was supposed to pitch

1128
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 5: the following day, I think the second day in Oakland,

1129
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 5: but because of the pitching change, my day got No,

1130
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 5: that doesn't make sense. I was supposed to pitch the

1131
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 5: Wednesday day game, That's what it was, and because of

1132
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 5: the start on Sunday, I get pushed back to the

1133
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 5: Friday game in Oakland. So THEO tells us this, this

1134
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 5: is before the whole Sunday night baseball game, and I

1135
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 5: go I just I raised my hand. He's telling us,

1136
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 5: I'm like eighth grader. Hey, THEO, I have a question. Listen,

1137
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 5: I have set up around at Pebble Beats for eight dudes. Okay,

1138
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 5: we have hotel rooms for staying there. I've got the

1139
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 5: rounds taken care of, and I got a plane picking

1140
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 5: us up and off and dropping us off.

1141
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: Mind you, it's a twenty seven second flight.

1142
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 5: And he looks at me and he goes, so you're

1143
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 5: playing golf on Thursday. I said, well, that's my question.

1144
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 5: I'm supposed to pitch on Friday now because you's fucked

1145
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 5: with the rotation.

1146
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 3: You fuck with my golf.

1147
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: You fuck with not my balhap you fucked with Pebble right, yeah.

1148
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 5: So and all the boys and all the boys, and

1149
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, THEO, I can't possibly sit on the plane

1150
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 5: and watch seven guys get off a plane and walk

1151
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:01,959
Speaker 5: onto a plane and fly down.

1152
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: There with that. I'm paying for it.

1153
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: And he goes, Tom was.

1154
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: The flight he was?

1155
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 5: And I go theel dude, like, what do you got?

1156
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 5: He goes, well, are you good to play? Your body?

1157
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: Fine? I said, yeah, he goes go play.

1158
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: I love him.

1159
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 2: I was like all right.

1160
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 5: He goes, when are you guys getting back? I go,

1161
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 5: we'll be back as soon as we're done. We're flying back,

1162
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 5: we'll be in. We got back for dinner.

1163
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: We went on. Yeah, John paid, We're all together, We're

1164
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: all this is this is now August like we're together forever.

1165
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: And we go to Pebble Beach. We play. We hang

1166
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: out all night there like till the wee hours of

1167
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: the morning. There we play golf, fly in on the

1168
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 2: on the patio, fly in that night, and we still

1169
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: go to dinner. That's how much we wanted to be together.

1170
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: And we were there. John as great as he was,

1171
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 2: he's sometimes cut some corners, and he not only did

1172
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: he buy us all eight rooms, but I was the

1173
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: guy who kept him in check. He got us partial

1174
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 2: view rooms. And it was like, John, if we're gonna

1175
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: do this, you got the plane, You're gonna give me

1176
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: a partial view, like a partial view suite. It was

1177
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: a sweet but before partial view. So I'm just wearing

1178
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: them out right, partial view, partial view. And we get there.

1179
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 2: The partial view is like there's a little parking lot

1180
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: and then it's all ocean and cliffs.

1181
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 5: It was a view of a parking lot with a

1182
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 5: little bit of ocean over the top of it.

1183
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: No, it was more ocean than but I panned and

1184
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 2: like made it look like John this partial fuse bullshit,

1185
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: like look at these rooms and he wore me out

1186
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: and I wore them out about having to walk. But

1187
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: that trip, I still have that picture of all of

1188
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: us in the sand in.

1189
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 3: The house. Everybody's posing, skis posing. It was me us three,

1190
00:54:53,120 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 3: Maggie kb hen Ski Area, Lackie right, and I three. Unbelievable.

1191
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 4: And we left there, went go to dinner, go to dinner, win,

1192
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 4: beat the ship out of Oakland.

1193
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 3: Friday night day game sevendy.

1194
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: While we're in the middle right now of what turned

1195
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 2: out to be thirteen out of fourteen, and this was

1196
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 2: we were on eleven row, and this is all the

1197
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: stuff that's going on off the field.

1198
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 3: Saturday, we have a day game, we beat Oakland.

1199
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 4: John's got a boat race, and we got a sprinter

1200
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 4: van that sends us down to San Francisco.

1201
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 3: Forty nine ers, big up, the VJ police.

1202
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 2: Escort, escort, Kenny Chesney concert.

1203
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 4: Chesney concert, met the head coach, walks around the facilities,

1204
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 4: party with Chesney.

1205
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 2: Sammy Hagar's. There were hanging out back stage.

1206
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 4: Go back sweep Oakland on Sunday and head home Like

1207
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 4: that was like literally the best road trip.

1208
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: That was a good one.

1209
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: It was a street that was the best one.

1210
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 3: Bro.

1211
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: I think what people don't understand is how much we

1212
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: enjoyed life that year off the field. Like it was

1213
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: like we would got to the field and we were

1214
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: excited to play together and we were equally excited for

1215
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 2: what was about to happen. Yeah.

1216
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think Joe gets enough credit for the

1217
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 4: mindset of which he created of be yours have fun

1218
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 4: off the field, and you're going to be better at

1219
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 4: your job when you come to work. Like that was

1220
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 4: such a different kind of mindset than a lot of managers.

1221
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 4: Like living and breathing Baseball twenty four to seven, it's

1222
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,479
Speaker 4: nice like coming to work every single day knowing it's like, yeah,

1223
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 4: we've done a lot of fun stuff and off the

1224
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 4: field that when we come we still want to hang

1225
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 4: out and now we were a tighter knit group when

1226
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 4: you come together and want to get to work and

1227
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 4: play hard.

1228
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 5: Focus for and to your point to that, I think

1229
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 5: Joe did a really good job with the schedule and

1230
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 5: the times of which we got to the field. Sure right,

1231
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 5: Like it's on a random Tuesday and we've got a

1232
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 5: seventy eight seven pm game, and he's like, all right,

1233
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 5: Little League Week show.

1234
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, American Legion Week.

1235
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: Shout out to Davey Martinez too. Yeah, Joe handled the

1236
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 2: media so well in US, But Davey ran that asylum

1237
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: of communicating.

1238
00:56:58,960 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: You love the asylum.

1239
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 2: Prisoners run the asylum. I've said it my whole career.

1240
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 2: If they don't, it's not a good team. If the

1241
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: team's not controlled from within, it's not a great team.

1242
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: But Joe, but I remember coming in one day. I

1243
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 2: think I was at your house or something, and we

1244
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: were just pounding wine. I think, what was the screaming.

1245
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: With this?

1246
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 2: You opened up a screaming eagle for us or something,

1247
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: a crazy bottle of wine, and I thought, I thought

1248
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: it could have been the potatoes or the steak that

1249
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 2: we had that night that made me a little fuzzy

1250
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: the next morning.

1251
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: But it's always the steak.

1252
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could have been the wine. I go into

1253
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 2: Joe's office and I'm able to have a conversation with

1254
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: him like a friend, and I'm like, Joe, last night

1255
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 2: we were at Lester's I believe it was there, and

1256
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: we drank so much wine as oh brother, He's like,

1257
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 2: how do you feeling it. I'm like, I'm good, Like,

1258
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: just get through it, You'll be fine. I go out

1259
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: and have a great game. But how can you say

1260
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,959
Speaker 2: that to your manager, because that's the environment he created. Sure,

1261
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It was like, there's nothing

1262
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 2: better than that.

1263
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 4: I want to get to one of my favorite games.

1264
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 4: Because I've never asked you the story that the last

1265
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 4: game of the season, Sunday Night Baseball Saint Louis, we're

1266
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 4: going on the postseason and Joe takes me out of

1267
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 4: the game.

1268
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 3: Joe comes out. You're carving.

1269
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 4: We're up and three to one, like the seventh, right,

1270
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 4: it was late and you still had your pitches were

1271
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 4: down Joe. I think we got one out and Joe,

1272
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 4: here comes Joe out of the dugout. I look over,

1273
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 4: I'm like, we got two, we got two out, we

1274
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 4: got two out.

1275
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, what the fuck's he doing out here?

1276
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 4: Like Johnny's rolling like so I'm like on one of

1277
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 4: my pissed, like I played mad right, like I was

1278
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 4: definitely all we know, we know, I know, I know,

1279
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 4: I get this reputation.

1280
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 3: Of like, oh, Rossie's so nice, grandpa blah blahah. These

1281
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 3: guys hated me, so everybody knows I love you. It's it.

1282
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 4: He's coming out and I'm on one of my my

1283
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 4: rants to the mound and you're just you're staring at me,

1284
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 4: and I'm thinking, what's he doing?

1285
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: What's Joe doing? And You're like, uh, he's taking you

1286
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 3: out of the game. Or Joe grabs me.

1287
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 4: He's like, hey, I've never done this before. You went

1288
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 4: in his office and told him to take me out

1289
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 4: of the game. I want to know how that whole

1290
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 4: thing went down.

1291
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: So night.

1292
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 4: I appreciate I appreciate that, but I've never heard how.

1293
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 4: I can imagine a player coming into my office and going, hey,

1294
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 4: we're gonna take this wen, take this guy out of

1295
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 4: the game.

1296
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: So night before.

1297
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 5: I send it home, you know, we're fair and I

1298
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 5: are just talking or whatever, and I look at her

1299
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 5: and I go, hey, what do you think about this?

1300
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 5: I said, if everything goes well tomorrow, having Joe taken

1301
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 5: Rossi out of the game before he takes me out,

1302
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 5: I was like, but it's got to go perfect.

1303
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: It can't be.

1304
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 5: It can't be the fourth inning when I've got eighty

1305
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 5: seven pitches and we're losing six to three or whatever.

1306
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 5: I said, it's got to go perfect. And she's like, yeah,

1307
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 5: go talk to Joe. See what he says.

1308
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: Said Okay.

1309
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 5: So I get there early the next day, planning on

1310
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 5: having to talk to Joe for like thirty forty minutes

1311
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 5: right like give him the whole spiel. He's gonna talk

1312
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 5: me down off this ledge and analytics say you can't

1313
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 5: do this or whatever, and I go into jug Hey, Joe,

1314
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 5: I got an idea, he said, yeah.

1315
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: I said, now, same thing.

1316
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 5: If everything goes perfect tonight, what do you think about

1317
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 5: taking ROSSI out for his last game before you take

1318
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 5: me up?

1319
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: Let him get let him walk off the field, get

1320
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: his love, because I love it.

1321
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 3: That's all he said.

1322
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: And I said, any idea you ever brought to Joe? Yeah,

1323
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 2: he was like.

1324
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: And I sat there.

1325
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 5: I was like, I just can't imagine how that's it,

1326
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 5: and he goes, yeah, love.

1327
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 4: I remember starting to pulling the mask down, starting to

1328
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 4: cry right in front of you, guys.

1329
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 2: You had a home of that game.

1330
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 5: Joe's like this, it's like in your face and you

1331
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 5: got your mask off and you're like looking at me

1332
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 5: and looking at him, and he goes you taking it

1333
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 5: out of the game, and you didn't know what to do,

1334
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 5: and I'm like waiting for like a hug or like

1335
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 5: a bro dap or something, and you just go, I

1336
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 5: love you, guys.

1337
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 4: I was about to melt down, like I like, I

1338
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 4: saw all the look in you guy's face and you

1339
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 4: were just like staring through me, and I'm like.

1340
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 3: About I almost forgot to hug Joe and everything.

1341
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 2: It's another example of the things that John did for

1342
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 2: us that no one knew about. Exactly, no one knew

1343
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: that John did that, Like no one knew that you

1344
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 2: went to Joe's office and pulled him out, and nor

1345
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 2: did you want the credit for that afterwards too. But

1346
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: these are all the things behind the scene that make

1347
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 2: a championship team that it doesn't you can't quantify it.

1348
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 2: It just happens. And for Joe to do that, for

1349
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 2: you to be able to have the confidence to go

1350
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 2: tell Joe this right, it's just all of these things

1351
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 2: come together to make it where the reason you want

1352
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 2: to do that for him is because you guys were

1353
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: brothers on the field and you care about him, and

1354
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 2: you got your runway of your hundredth home run, the

1355
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 2: Grandpa Rossi, the whole retirement tour, it's no, it's not

1356
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: about you. But let's get back to no one gives

1357
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 2: the stanting ovation to a backup catcher. Great point, you

1358
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Point that doesn't even get to

1359
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: get all of that bats right exactly because of John.

1360
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 4: So we go into the playoffs and playoffs and you

1361
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 4: put us on your back, bro, Like I mean, we

1362
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 4: had obviously our whole pitch staff was really good and

1363
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 4: the areata was on a two year run that like

1364
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 4: I've never seen. And you you're different in the playoffs, right,

1365
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 4: Like what is that?

1366
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 3: Like?

1367
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 4: I think people need to learn from your mentality and

1368
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 4: you're talking about routine, You're talking about your experiences.

1369
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 3: I always have a lot of lot to do with that.

1370
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 3: But Bro, you're dominant in the postseason.

1371
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 5: Looking back on it, I think a little bit of

1372
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 5: a little bit of it is like I said, I'm

1373
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 5: not I never look to see who I was pitching against.

1374
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 5: I didn't care, right like Adam Wainwright, Annabelle Sanchez, Joe

1375
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 5: Shitt the barber, It doesn't matter, right, Like I'm not competing.

1376
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 5: I'm competing against him, but I'm not pitching against him,

1377
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 5: So that in my mind never scared me. You know

1378
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, and then I just I loved when

1379
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 5: it mattered, right, Like, the season gets so long. Beginning

1380
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 5: of the season, you're so hyped, you're ready to go,

1381
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 5: you're amped, you feel good.

1382
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: You should be somewhat locked in with your stuff.

1383
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 5: You get to the middle of the season, it's kind

1384
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 5: of dictating which way the year is going for you.

1385
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 5: Whatever you get to August, you hate everybody.

1386
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 2: Sure, angry August say angry August.

1387
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 5: You hate everybody. You hate your family, you hate your

1388
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 5: your teammates, you hate to say whatever you want, and

1389
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 5: it's you hate everybody. September comes around, you get that

1390
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 5: little boost where you call up the young fellas. They're there,

1391
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 5: they're getting to especially in our situation to sixteen. Those

1392
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 5: young guys got to experience some first for them, which

1393
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 5: is cool. You're in a playoff hunt. You're in a

1394
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 5: playoff hunt. We clinch early. When you clinch early, it's

1395
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 5: good and bad because then you're like, all right, I'm preparing.

1396
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 5: I'm still trying to win the games, but I'm also

1397
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,439
Speaker 5: not trying to get hurt, you know, So you're kind

1398
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 5: of dodging and weaving your way through September. Now, those

1399
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 5: lights come on, and the weather changes. It's getting dark early.

1400
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 5: You have flyovers all of a sudden. You know, you

1401
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 5: got the big flag for the anthem. People are there.

1402
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 5: The stadiums filled before the Yeah, the stadiums feel before

1403
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 5: the first pitch. Everybody's asses in their seat before the

1404
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 5: first pitch because they want to see playoff baseball.

1405
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: The crowd is into it.

1406
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 5: First inning, two outs, three to two, right, like now

1407
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 5: you your senses are amps romantic.

1408
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 2: It is right, you're really they're getting me gone on.

1409
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 5: That's why I love baseball though, especially like I got

1410
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 5: spoiled early in my career to go to playoffs so

1411
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 5: much and be a part of it and have responsibility.

1412
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 5: You know, I wasn't a fourth I wasn't you know.

1413
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 2: The you're you're the guy.

1414
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was here. Here's game one, Go get

1415
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: them kid.

1416
01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: Let's talk about game one because it it was cold,

1417
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: it was windy. Which Game one in NLDS twenty.

1418
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: Sixteen, Oh at Wrigley, at Wrigley.

1419
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 2: We're playing the Giants. The Giants are coming off their

1420
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 2: even year. Was it three years in a row? Three

1421
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: even years in a row. So we're now sixteen. This

1422
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: is gonna be their fourth they won in fourteen, and

1423
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 2: that's real, and it's real that we have one hundred

1424
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 2: and eight year curse over us too, which we handled

1425
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 2: really well. But that shit was real because we didn't win,

1426
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 2: and you get asked about all the time, and you

1427
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 2: just add a little bit of extra juice. So we

1428
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 2: go into game one and John shoves where do you go?

1429
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 2: You go eight innings, five strikeouts, We end up winning

1430
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: the game one nothing on Hobbiesbby.

1431
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 5: Hit a six mile homer that hit the basket.

1432
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 3: Hit the basket, barely got in.

1433
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 5: I mean, he's the fuck out and I still don't

1434
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 5: think he's touched first base.

1435
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: Still he's still standing at home.

1436
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: We all knew it was a homer too, and it

1437
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 2: barely got over and we win one nothing. But the

1438
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: tone that you set for that game set the tone

1439
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 2: for the rest of the playoff us because we do.

1440
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 2: We we boat race pretty much all season. We have

1441
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 2: a little hiccup in July, we have a great second half,

1442
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 2: we kind of start amping up for the playoffs, and

1443
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: then Game one, boom, we get hit in the face

1444
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 2: of quato and we win one nothing. But that game

1445
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 2: set the tone that the energy there. We had a

1446
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 2: backpick there game one that no one knows, like, this

1447
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 2: is how fearless we were, and this is how amazing

1448
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 2: Joe was that he trusted us. We do a back

1449
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: pick in game one where a guy's bunting. I come

1450
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 2: up in the guy's face. The guy at first takes

1451
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 2: a big lead. Hobby comes around on the.

1452
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 4: Back and you trust Hobby, You trust Hobby, you trust John,

1453
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 4: you trust.

1454
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 2: You're trusting four guys there to do their job, and

1455
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 2: we get a huge backpick there. That just another example

1456
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 2: of us playing fearless, us being too young, we're too

1457
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: dumb or what did you always.

1458
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: Say about saying young and young and dumb.

1459
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: That was John's favorite line, because we were all I

1460
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 2: think twenty six or twenty five and under. We did

1461
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 2: second youngest team. But that sets the tone. We win, then,

1462
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 2: i'ds we go into game one of the NLC US

1463
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 2: Dodgers and you set the tone again. There, you remember

1464
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 2: what you did there.

1465
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: I remember Game five more than I remember Game one.

1466
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 2: Let's see Game one of the NLCS six innings, one run,

1467
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 2: we went eight four, Maggie Montero, grand Slam, Joelton, Joe.

1468
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 8: Joe Blain chess match between Joe and Dave Roberts, Jiggy Miggie,

1469
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 8: and we'll get to this when we talked to Miggie,

1470
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 8: But Maggie was for the whole team.

1471
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 2: If you weren't playing, you had a mission, and that

1472
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 2: was to get runs. And how do we get runs?

1473
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: John a little some we like to call rally beers.

1474
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: Rally beers or shots or because in sixteen I believe

1475
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 2: it started in fifteen when we swept a series, the

1476
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 2: boys would take shots. And if we ever got to

1477
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 2: a little rut and we were kind of grinding, those

1478
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: shots became instead of after the game, sometimes they were

1479
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 2: before the game on occasion, on.

1480
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: Occasion, not very often, but it happened.

1481
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 2: It did happen when we needed it. You can't go

1482
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 2: to the well too much or it doesn't work.

1483
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 5: And the crazy thing about Mickie is, I think earlier

1484
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 5: in that day he couldn't walk.

1485
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 2: He just got a courtizone shot.

1486
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, it was that day, right, yeah, And he.

1487
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 2: Was still rallying for the boys. So he comes in

1488
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 2: and it's that grand slam. I don't even think he

1489
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 2: really knew his name at the time.

1490
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: Joe, Joe should have thrown the heater.

1491
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, he hung but that was electric.

1492
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1493
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,560
Speaker 5: I mean, dude, the whole playoff scene like whether and

1494
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 5: and don't take this wrong way. But whatever side you're on,

1495
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 5: whether you win or you lose, you will never forget

1496
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 5: being in the playoffs, right, it never. And the further

1497
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 5: you go, the more electric and the more your senses

1498
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 5: are away, like you're you're you're hyped. You get to

1499
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 5: the field, You're hyped as soon as you get there.

1500
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 2: The closer you get with your teammates, yeah, close to

1501
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 2: the families get because all the families are rallying together too.

1502
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 3: And the fans. You're getting out of your car, the

1503
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 3: fans are there. What's that in the playoffs? Like you're

1504
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 3: getting out of your car.

1505
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 5: Like the That's what I'm saying, Like, I'll never forget.

1506
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 5: I'll never forget Game five. I'm jumping ahead of the

1507
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 5: of the CS. But Game five of the World Series.

1508
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 5: You know, not very often at Wrigley do you walk

1509
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 5: out of the of the dugout to go warm up,

1510
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 5: which was if I think when we played seven o'clock

1511
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 5: games during the play Yeah, because Chicago's seven behind some seven,

1512
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 5: so I'd be out there at six twenty walking out

1513
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 5: of the dugout right, you couldn't see a seat in

1514
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 5: that place, Wrigley Special and they were I mean, bro,

1515
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 5: that and I see everybody was standing, but you couldn't

1516
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 5: see seats.

1517
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, I guess for warm ups.

1518
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 2: We hadn't been to the World Series and sixty No,

1519
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 2: I get that. I know it's a series and what

1520
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 2: I'm saying, and then I'll see, yes, you haven't at

1521
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 2: that point, have gone. So when we win, you win

1522
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 2: Game five, right, and then game six we win, we'd

1523
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 2: beat Kershaw double play and the game to.

1524
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 5: Go back to Game five, I think probably one of

1525
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 5: the best postseason games I've ever thrown.

1526
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 2: Bro, you dominate it.

1527
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: That's that was like I knew going into that game.

1528
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: I was lost.

1529
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 4: I want to talk about let's let's walk the I

1530
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 4: think like you got a four to one record in

1531
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 4: World Series games and the one loss in Cleveland Game one,

1532
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 4: we went, I went us together, so heavy scouting report

1533
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 4: and what did we say after that game? Like you

1534
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 4: were having to throw it in a dixie cup by

1535
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 4: the second time through the lineup because we're sinking away.

1536
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 4: We're change up back door, trying to cut it in off.

1537
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 4: They were giving up on the end, and your bread

1538
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 4: and butter was I'm going to establish I rememb We

1539
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 4: got an argument in Boston about it. I'm going to

1540
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 4: establish my four seamer in that's when I'm at my best.

1541
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 4: That locks me in mechanically, and that gets everything everybody

1542
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 4: looking in for my and then I can go cutter

1543
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 4: off that I can sink away. Everything works after that,

1544
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 4: and I learned that over time, and then got to

1545
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 4: the World Series in game one and we went so

1546
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 4: heavy scour report. Remember everybody, everybody was like, sink down

1547
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 4: the way, no strike breaking balls, change up, different things

1548
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 4: like that.

1549
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 3: And we had you had to grow. He grinded through

1550
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 3: that game. You grinded.

1551
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 5: But you say, we just said something. It reminded me.

1552
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 5: And I don't know if you remember this. The reason

1553
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 5: I said that to you is because the very first

1554
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 5: time you caught me in twenty thirteen, Yeah, I know,

1555
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 5: you came back. He was on a Hawaiian vacation all

1556
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 5: year with his I had a good cushion, had scrambled brow.

1557
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 2: He had both of us there for years.

1558
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 5: He didn't know what planet he was on, and went

1559
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 5: to Hawaii, came back all tan, you know, and the

1560
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 5: gonna lie. The tan line was a little weird when

1561
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 5: we got in the shower, That's all I'm saying.

1562
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 1: It was a little awkward. I didn't know what kind

1563
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: of bathing suit he had.

1564
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 5: So thirteen started out really good for me, and then

1565
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 5: I hit a lull, kind of like we're talking about

1566
01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 5: in sixteen for us. In July whatever struggled beginnings of Timber.

1567
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 5: We're facing Detroit. Do you remember this? Facing Detroit. I

1568
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 5: know I'm getting off topic. We'll get right back there.

1569
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 5: Never caught me except for spring training comes in.

1570
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 2: This is.

1571
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 1: When this is when Detroit is rolling.

1572
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:25,520
Speaker 5: They got Sanchez, they got Prince Torry hunterlin Uh, Victor Martinez, miggi.

1573
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 3: Omarvion Vonte, a really good player.

1574
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 1: Like murders Row.

1575
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 5: Okay, no disrespect to the Yankees. But so we get

1576
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 5: in there and I'm dude, I'm like, I don't know

1577
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 5: what I'm gonna do. Like these guys plus Victor Martinez,

1578
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 5: Tory Hunter, and Miguel Cabres ops against me is a

1579
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:49,759
Speaker 5: combined seven million love when you pitched seven million. Okay,

1580
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 5: So we sit down and I've got all my fucking

1581
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 5: notes and I look at Rossi and he goes, hey,

1582
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 5: this is what we're gonna do. He goes every every

1583
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 5: bit of film I watched, everybody kind of dicking off

1584
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 5: with these guys. They're going back door breaking ball, this, this, this, this,

1585
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 5: they fall behind two to one, two oh three to one.

1586
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 5: Then guess what happens, Pakaye Right like, now that's where

1587
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 5: the damage comes. He goes, We're gonna come out and

1588
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,719
Speaker 5: we're gonna throw the ball as hard as we can,

1589
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 5: and we're gonna throw it right at their hands till

1590
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 5: they make an adjustment.

1591
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 3: Cool.

1592
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 5: The only left in the lineup was Prince Fielder. All right,

1593
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 5: here we go, Rossie, step back there.

1594
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 3: Peterran until over and over again, and.

1595
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 5: Just the first three innings, and like I was pissed,

1596
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 5: like I was still trying to figure it out. I

1597
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 5: was blowing like ninety six, ninety five, ninety six, just

1598
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 5: Miguel's jumping out of the way. Next thing you know,

1599
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 5: got curveball under Chase. We end up winning the game.

1600
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 5: And at the cutter.

1601
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: What that did in thirteen was then all right to go.

1602
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 5: Back about statish, establishing your fastball, stamaging your cutter, which

1603
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 5: made everything else.

1604
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 3: And it locked you in mechanically and you learned later

1605
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 3: on too.

1606
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 2: It's like, just so we roll up game six at

1607
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 2: Wrigley for the NLCS, right, you just win game five,

1608
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 2: you go seven innings, I think one run. We have

1609
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: a chance to go to the World Series and we

1610
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 2: fell short the year before. We have first ballot Hall

1611
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 2: of Famer Clinton Kershaw on the mound and we roll

1612
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 2: him right and.

1613
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 3: Wow, Hendricks deal.

1614
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the professor went deal. Our whole staff, he dealt

1615
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 2: two games. He got the loss in the in game two. Yeah,

1616
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 2: well we were down to one of that series. Right,

1617
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 2: so we win off Kershaw the double play, and I

1618
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 2: just remember Wriggly being so loud and that's celebration and

1619
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 2: you winning the MVP, call m MVP of that series,

1620
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 2: and it's like, what does that mean to you? You

1621
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 2: sign there, you have this massive deal. You put so

1622
01:14:56,120 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 2: much pressure on yourself. In fifteen, we exceed all expectations.

1623
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 2: We're going to the World Series. Job's not finished. One

1624
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 2: hundred and eight year curse. You're the guy you just

1625
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 2: went MVP. Like, what are you feeling?

1626
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm feeling at the time, like I'm

1627
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 5: doing my job, you know what I'm saying, like, not

1628
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 5: to downplay it, but I feel like I'm.

1629
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: Doing what I was supposed to be doing.

1630
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 5: You know, I think in fifteen, I know we're jumping

1631
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 5: around a lot, but in fifteen I felt like I

1632
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 5: needed to win the World Series in April.

1633
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 2: Yeah I remember that.

1634
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, make sense, like you're trying to live up to

1635
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 3: that contract.

1636
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to make I'm trying to make.

1637
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 2: You're still new. You're also grumpy and unapproachable and all these.

1638
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 5: Things allegedly, but yeah, I mean all those things. Thanks Ris,

1639
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean I feel like at the time,

1640
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 5: you're like, all right, I'm on a personal level, You're like,

1641
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 5: all right, I'm doing.

1642
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: What I'm supposed to be doing, right, Like the.

1643
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 5: Pieces are falling now at the end of the day,

1644
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 5: I'm just throwing this out there.

1645
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 1: I'm three for three on World Series.

1646
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 5: Okay, I've never gone to the World I just wanted

1647
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 5: Black's famous line.

1648
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 1: Black famous line.

1649
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 5: Remember he said when we got to the World Series,

1650
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 5: he said, hey, Tony, I ain't never been to a

1651
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 5: World Series.

1652
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: I hadn't won, so I have how's that second place ring?

1653
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 2: Anyway?

1654
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 3: So one of that.

1655
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 5: So anyway, I just feel like at the time, I'm like,

1656
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 5: all right, we've accomplished half of the goal. We've got

1657
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 5: to the World series, right, that's sometimes that's half the

1658
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 5: battle total is getting there. All jokes aside, but we've

1659
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 5: got there. Okay, we've accomplished goal one of getting there. Now,

1660
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 5: goal too is to win the motherfucker right, Like, like,

1661
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 5: we didn't come here for to lose, right, we came

1662
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 5: here to win.

1663
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 2: Right.

1664
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 5: Probably in my obviously I'm bias to this, but I

1665
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 5: think one of the greatest World series in the history

1666
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 5: of the game.

1667
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 2: Oh, hands down, hands down. There's not even the ups

1668
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,759
Speaker 2: and downs, the droughts, both teams, both.

1669
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 5: Teams, the cat and mouse game, two great managers going

1670
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 5: at each other, as far as game planning, pitching, matchups,

1671
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 5: you know, all this stuff starting pitching, offense, stolen bases, everything.

1672
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 5: Like then it ends up at game seven, which is

1673
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:35,719
Speaker 5: my first Game seven, it was incredible. Oh, roller coaster

1674
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 5: of emotions.

1675
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 2: That's not skip out. You win the MVP of the

1676
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 2: NLCS that night. That party at John's house was elite. Okay, basically,

1677
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 2: the whole team's there, the whole city's rioting. Everyone's just

1678
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 2: happy to be back in the World Series. We still

1679
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 2: know we have a job to do, but we celebrate,

1680
01:17:59,080 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 2: celebrated everything.

1681
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 4: Then it felt I don't know how you guys felt

1682
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 4: when we won the CS, because we had lost it

1683
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 4: the year before. I felt like boom, like that was

1684
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 4: that was a sense of relief for me. It was like, Okay,

1685
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 4: now we're going to the World Series. Just roll it

1686
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 4: all out there.

1687
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 3: Whatever.

1688
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 4: But getting further than we did in fifteen to me

1689
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 4: was so important because of the steps we had taken so.

1690
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 5: Fast growing and especially for the young guys, it's like

1691
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 5: confidence right, Like you feel like and I know there's

1692
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 5: guys that have done this where it's like I.

1693
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 1: Can't get past the DS. You know what I'm saying.

1694
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 5: There's a roadblock there, and maybe that's why that roadblock.

1695
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, oh well here it is still the

1696
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 5: same game.

1697
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: We're good. It's a funny story. After a game six

1698
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 1: we win, celebrate all that stuff. Drive back to that.

1699
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I lived a mile from Rapley.

1700
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 5: Wife calls me and says, hey, there's a group of

1701
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 5: people in the front yard tepeeing our tree.

1702
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 2: I remember this.

1703
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 1: Pulled around.

1704
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 5: We've got a alley way that you pulled into the garage.

1705
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 5: Berteaux that we lived on was a one way street

1706
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 5: going that way. Pull around, go down the one way

1707
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 5: street this.

1708
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 2: Way, pull up.

1709
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, what are y'all doing?

1710
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 5: Oh, we just wanted to celebrate, and I go by

1711
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 5: t peeing my tree.

1712
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 2: Didn't you invite him in for a beer? Yeah?

1713
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 1: I go.

1714
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 3: If you guys want to celebrate, I go.

1715
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 5: You guys want to celebrate and knock on my damn door,

1716
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:21,759
Speaker 5: I'll come have a beer with you.

1717
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: And the one lady goes, we are so sorry, we'll

1718
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 1: start cleaning up. They cleaned up all the.

1719
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 5: Well. I parked and came out and we cheers and

1720
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 5: had a drink and then when went.

1721
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 2: Well, that party was. First off, I have to tell

1722
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 2: you set the scene on John's house. John bought. Not

1723
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 2: only did John buy a house, he bought the lot

1724
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 2: next door. It was a house as well. He knocked

1725
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 2: it down till his dog famously quoted and I quote,

1726
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 2: I knocked it down so my dog had a yard

1727
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 2: to shit it. Okay, that's the type of I may

1728
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 2: have just told you that, but okay, well.

1729
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 3: I'm not anymore.

1730
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 2: This is what the this is what the people get John.

1731
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 2: But John has this party and we're all there and

1732
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 2: we're all celebrating, and next thing you know, we're on

1733
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: the back patio. Rossi's playing the guitar. My dad's there

1734
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 2: playing the guitar. Eddie Vetty Eddie Vedder is there, starts

1735
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 2: jamming out for us in the backyard, like I think

1736
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 2: he's saying, what the Cubs go all the way right?

1737
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 2: Someday we'll go all the way? Yes, And he's just

1738
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 2: doing an acoustic Rossi's playing, my Dad's playing. This one

1739
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 2: of my greatest memories because my dad loves playing the

1740
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 2: guitar too, and all of us coming together there and

1741
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 2: just knowing that the job's not finished, but we're we

1742
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,799
Speaker 2: we got this like we were sew together.

1743
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 4: And then we roll into game one, well because I

1744
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 4: because me and your dad were playing our thing. Now

1745
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 4: is we open for Eddie Vedder? Just so everybody did

1746
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 4: you did? I opened?

1747
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 2: You're an opener, I'm an o and we go we

1748
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 2: go into game one of the World Series. You're setting

1749
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: the tone for us.

1750
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: Didn't do a very good job.

1751
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 2: We don't. We said the tone.

1752
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 3: That was my fault. I take the responsible Me and

1753
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 3: me and Borsello Mike Borsello. Yeah, and we went so

1754
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 3: scouting report.

1755
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 4: But then in game five you came out and we

1756
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 4: you fucking punched out the side going I'm being.

1757
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 2: Me, I'm being Game five was the hardest game of

1758
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 2: the series, hands down. Game seven was its own fairy tale,

1759
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 2: but game five. But let's go back to game three.

1760
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 2: At the first game at Wrigley in what sixty plus years,

1761
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:33,600
Speaker 2: the atmosphere there was so like dead coming off the

1762
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 2: NLCS at everyone party in Suburn, and it was like,

1763
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 2: we get there. In game three, we're tied one to one,

1764
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 2: and the atmosphere was almost like everyone was just so nervous,

1765
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 2: Like I don't know if it was just me and

1766
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 2: I was projecting on the fans, but like the energy

1767
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 2: in the stadium was flat. We didn't really give them

1768
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 2: a lot to cheer for, granted, but we go down.

1769
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 2: We lose Game three, we lose Game four, and we're like, fuck,

1770
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,600
Speaker 2: like we just got swept the year before. Ain't doing this.

1771
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 2: And you come out in game five and we get

1772
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 2: I think we gave you an early early lead.

1773
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: How could you at home?

1774
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 2: Well, you got us through the first An early lead

1775
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 2: is the first three innings. John oh, man, I thought

1776
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 2: hit a homer.

1777
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't until the fourth or fifth inning.

1778
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 3: Third base hit a hit a homer.

1779
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: Second inning.

1780
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,719
Speaker 4: Remember, we went in so much and finally I was like, okay,

1781
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 4: we've established in when Ramirez hit hit a solo home run,

1782
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 4: went heat her in second one heater in homer.

1783
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, now we've established that.

1784
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 2: Game was now we go. That game was a gauntlet.

1785
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 2: We won three two, You go six innings, one run,

1786
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 2: Chappie comes in, I think goes two plus.

1787
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll tell you this, h I don't want to

1788
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 5: say it's the only game but I think it's one

1789
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 5: of the only games that I have looked at the

1790
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 5: pitching coach and taken.

1791
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 1: Myself out of the game. Your guest was really stick

1792
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: with Yeah. It was realistic with myself.

1793
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 2: Thank god. Yeah, because six innings, one run, we're right

1794
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 2: at your ball.

1795
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:09,560
Speaker 5: I just giving up the second run. I grind it

1796
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:12,640
Speaker 5: in the sixth and somebody hit a base hit up

1797
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 5: the middle. They scored, and I want to say it

1798
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 5: was no, Yeah, Lindor got the base hit up the middle,

1799
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 5: and then you threw him out a second to get

1800
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 5: out of the inning, and we got down there and

1801
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 5: Boss came to check on me. I was at like

1802
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 5: ninety something pitches and I go Boss. I said, I'm

1803
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 5: I can give you as much as you want next inning,

1804
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 5: but also don't put me in there. And if I

1805
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 5: give a base hit, take me out and and have

1806
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 5: that reliever come with somebody on.

1807
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: I said, if if, if.

1808
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 5: You guys are questioning it, give that guy clean inning.

1809
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 5: And he's like, all right, fair enough, and so he went.

1810
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 3: And they so much emotions leading up to that game.

1811
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 2: That was, well, we knew, we knew. We win game five,

1812
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 2: we're going to roll in game six. That was our

1813
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 2: mentality because we saw Tomlin. He kind of diced us

1814
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 2: up a little bit and game remember the win was

1815
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 2: going out and it was him and Hendricks, and.

1816
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, take the over in this game. Yeah, yeah,

1817
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 4: game games. Yeah, it was like two to one one

1818
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 4: game six.

1819
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 2: In game six, after we won Game five was a

1820
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 2: huge exit, like, oh funk, we're gonna roll game six.

1821
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 2: Game seven is a crap shoot, right, And we did.

1822
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 2: We came out, We came out in game six and

1823
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 2: we popped off and we're all celebrating early and I

1824
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 2: remember ROSSI being so pissed off that like we're all

1825
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 2: like happy games, pacing up and down the doug Ount

1826
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 2: even though I don't even think you were playing. I was, yeah, exactly,

1827
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 2: and we go up all the way to go was

1828
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 2: the seventh or eighth and eighth in and I think,

1829
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 2: and again, this podcast is not about me. It's about

1830
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 2: the reunion. But I had a home run World Series

1831
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 2: home run and we go up like five, five or

1832
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 2: six runs and Joe left champion. And that was like

1833
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 2: the first real time, first time where like you know,

1834
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 2: during the year, you get a lot of bicker and

1835
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 2: everyone questions the manager at some point, but that was

1836
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 2: the first time where like the whole dugout came together

1837
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 2: and was like, Joe, get this fucking guy out of

1838
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 2: the game, Like we this game's over, Chappie's still in,

1839
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 2: Like let's get him out. Get Travis Wood up.

1840
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 3: Like your homer made it over when you hit the

1841
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 3: homer boom, got it.

1842
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 2: Mike dropped and I dropped a bat too. Again, it's

1843
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 2: really not about me, but I did drop. It's it's

1844
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 2: a good picture I have in the office. But that's

1845
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 2: like the first time where we were like, get him

1846
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 2: out of the game. Right, because Chappie was our dog,

1847
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 2: he was our he came over at the deadline and

1848
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 2: just what he did for us, the respect I have

1849
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 2: for him. Yeah, and then we go into game seven.

1850
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 2: We're all ready to go, right.

1851
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 5: Like baskets of emotions, game bro.

1852
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 2: That game was. But what was your what was your

1853
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 2: mindset like mine because you just pitched, so you're kind

1854
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:03,679
Speaker 2: of on short rest.

1855
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 3: Me you lackey in area to go down.

1856
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 5: Well before that hold on game six we win, Joe

1857
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 5: calls me in the office, Hey, how are you fine?

1858
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 1: Wow?

1859
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 2: What do you need?

1860
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 1: We're this is what we're doing tomorrow.

1861
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 5: Kyle's gonna go five and you're gonna either four or

1862
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 5: five and you're going to bridge to Chappie and then

1863
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 5: hopefully we got the trophy. Right, That was Joke's what

1864
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 5: Joe said. I said, Cool, Skip, I'll be ready and

1865
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 5: I'll be ready whenever you need me.

1866
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 3: Cool.

1867
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 5: So now I'm going to bed knowing I'm pitching, which

1868
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 5: I think, looking back on it was a blessing because

1869
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 5: now your nerves go down.

1870
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 2: There's no question, there's no wedding.

1871
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I'm not walking down there and going when

1872
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 5: the phone rings, you know, So like that helped, so

1873
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 5: go ahead.

1874
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 4: Sorry, no, but well going down there and I went

1875
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,480
Speaker 4: down there with you guys, and I remember.

1876
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 2: You were like the actual He was like, they really

1877
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 2: the decision making.

1878
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 3: Because yeah, bought.

1879
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 4: You got down there and just started like throwing a

1880
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 4: little bit. You want to take a while to warm up.

1881
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 4: And I remember catching you and getting ready, and then

1882
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 4: I was going down early and you were still going

1883
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 4: to be warmed up, and Noble was catching you and

1884
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 4: I'm watching you pitch. I'm like, he's throwing bebies. Like

1885
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 4: if this goes too long, he's gonna be gassed. It's

1886
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 4: with in my mind right like.

1887
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 3: He is down a boom boom. No.

1888
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 4: I went in at the end of the inning and

1889
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 4: Joe and Boz came up to me. It was like,

1890
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 4: how's he look I'm like, he looks great. But I

1891
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 4: wouldn't just extend this was my advice. I was like,

1892
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have him sit down there and throw bullets,

1893
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 4: like the bullets are coming out good.

1894
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 3: Whenever you're ready to bring him in, he's ready, like,

1895
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 3: don't wait two innings.

1896
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 2: Well, you're supposed to come in on a clean inning,

1897
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 2: supposed to come on a clean come in with what

1898
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 2: running around.

1899
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 5: We're all went first, first, We're all went to ry

1900
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 5: was the third inning where Kyle kind of gave up

1901
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 5: a little bit of hard contact and they scored the run.

1902
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: So it was one one.

1903
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 5: And the next they called down then and they're like,

1904
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,639
Speaker 5: go get ready, mind you before all of this started,

1905
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 5: before the game, I told Travis wood I said, Woodie,

1906
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 5: I don't know what the fuck I'm doing down there. Okay,

1907
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 5: I said one, I said, one's the World Series.

1908
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 1: Two, I'm in the bullpen. I have.

1909
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 5: I have my routine that I'm going to try to

1910
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 5: stick to, but you can't because it's it's a it's

1911
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 5: a damn.

1912
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 2: And now could go the season.

1913
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 5: And then once the phone rings are grenade goes off

1914
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 5: and everybody goes everywhere, and you're like, what do I do?

1915
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 1: Right?

1916
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 5: And so I told Woody before the game, I said,

1917
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 5: if you you watch how many pitches I'm throwing. If

1918
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 5: I get to a point where I've thrown too many pitches,

1919
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 5: I want you to stand directly in front of me

1920
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 5: where I can't throw another pitch.

1921
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 2: So you imagine that I do. On the broadcast what

1922
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,440
Speaker 2: he's saying, wish like John.

1923
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 5: I wish I wish they would have got it. But

1924
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 5: there was a point where when you left and I

1925
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 5: was down there and it was just aimless throwing.

1926
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: Then I was just throwing to throw.

1927
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:13,639
Speaker 3: You were loose.

1928
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 5: When I left Wood, he came over and literally stood

1929
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 5: not like not like face three face, but like he

1930
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 5: kind of stood off to my side where I knew, okay,

1931
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 5: I'm done, damn. And he stood there and then like

1932
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 5: I went to throw, he would be like, nope, uh huh.

1933
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 5: He's like when that phone rings and they say that

1934
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 5: you're coming in, you fire three or four as hard

1935
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 5: as you can.

1936
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 1: And then you go in. And that's what we did.

1937
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 3: And then you came in and I fucked it all

1938
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 3: and you you died.

1939
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 2: Bro, he died twice. He died was killed me, bro kipness,

1940
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 2: what was it a swinging bar or did he swinging.

1941
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 3: Button swinging to strike cutter away and pulls off.

1942
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 4: But it went like this, I bust out, I blew

1943
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,719
Speaker 4: a handy and then and the and the process spin

1944
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 4: row air mail.

1945
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,679
Speaker 3: He kiveness runs into him. I'm like, I just got give.

1946
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 2: This a bowling ball.

1947
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 3: Bro.

1948
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 2: He's short in compact, yeah, like and I always said

1949
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 2: too as a first baseman because when balls go up

1950
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 2: the line, like when it really matters, I'll.

1951
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 1: Stay in there.

1952
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 2: I'll stay in there.

1953
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you hung in.

1954
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 2: And I felt so proud afterwards because I actually did.

1955
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 2: But that bro, he ran me over.

1956
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm feeling great.

1957
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 4: I just got in this thing. Then no strike breaking ball?

1958
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 4: Who got a theme here? No strike breaking ball? Still

1959
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 4: indoor and you shake to the breaking ball and I'm like.

1960
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 5: All right, he's gonna bounce forty seven feet and literally

1961
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 5: kill you.

1962
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 3: You died all.

1963
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 4: Of the mass, roll, roll my ankle, go to get up.

1964
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:43,440
Speaker 4: Doc Adams saying, I'm concuss I'm stumbling everywhere.

1965
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 3: Two runs scored.

1966
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 2: Two runs score on a pass ball probably never happened

1967
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 2: in world serious history before.

1968
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, I just got in stand I'm the

1969
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,440
Speaker 4: defensive guy, and I just fucked.

1970
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 3: This all up. Like what happened?

1971
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 2: Then you let off the next inning? Right? Was that

1972
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 2: your last?

1973
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 3: About second second? I think I hit second the next inning?

1974
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Andrew Miller, Andrew Miller and Miller and.

1975
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 4: I was why did you show emotions? I'm like, thank

1976
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 4: god I got one back. It's let into so bro.

1977
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 2: You fucking threw what three and the third what was it?

1978
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: And the third to bridge the gap? To bridge the gap?

1979
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 5: Happy, ye, And I wish he wouldn't have taken me

1980
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 5: out because because Jose Ramiers does have good numbers. Off me,

1981
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 5: I think he's only got the one homer, but he's

1982
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 5: got some hits. But we had two outs in that

1983
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 5: inning and we're up six to two or three at

1984
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 5: the time, yeah, six or three.

1985
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: Well yeah, so I would coming in after.

1986
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 3: The crazy inning we came in.

1987
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 4: I had to hit him taking off my stuff, and

1988
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 4: you looked at me, it's like look.

1989
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 3: I was like, bro, you're fine, your ship's great. I

1990
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 3: fucked that up like he's like, looked. I was like, bro,

1991
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 3: you're throwing great, just like.

1992
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 5: Other than the forty seven foot curve ball that killed him.

1993
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 3: But he had nasty So you were loved.

1994
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: You were loved. It was good, I mean.

1995
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:57,839
Speaker 2: And then and then we went We went right, Chappie

1996
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 2: comes in, Raja Davis, HiT's the homer. We go down,

1997
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:03,680
Speaker 2: let's go before we heard that story. Have I told

1998
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,600
Speaker 2: you that story when Rocher Davis at Homer? Oh god, no,

1999
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 2: but I do know that what you no one knows.

2000
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 2: Sorry to cut you short. You Grandpa that that feels aggressive.

2001
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 2: I'm attacking you or the trust trate. You didn't call

2002
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 2: a slider? Yeah, all well, playoffs twelve years or all this, Chapman.

2003
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 4: Well, so, like going back, one of my things that

2004
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 4: I held was I got taken out a lot when

2005
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 4: Chapie came in and he would do Miggy or Wilson,

2006
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 4: and so I didn't The scouting report for Raj was

2007
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 4: the slider coming into him was bad and change.

2008
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:46,680
Speaker 3: Us for good.

2009
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 4: Well, I had never caught Chappy splitty, and I didn't

2010
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 4: trust to throw it myself right, especially with runners of

2011
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 4: scoring position. So I was just like and in San

2012
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 4: Francisco it worked great. I just threw heaters down and

2013
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 4: it was punchy, punchy punt or whatever it was. And

2014
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 4: so I'm just like, guy a second r I look

2015
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 4: at his bat. He's choked up, this fall, this far

2016
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 4: up on the bat, and I'm like, he's got to

2017
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 4: pop one of these heaters up right, it's one hundred

2018
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 4: and three like back then, not nobody threw on it right,

2019
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 4: And I'm.

2020
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 1: Like he's got two people.

2021
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm like, so I'm just keep throwing down

2022
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 4: heaters and I'm like I remember getting in. I was

2023
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 4: like to Mike Borsellar catching guys, I was like, fuck,

2024
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 4: it should don't slider.

2025
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 3: He's a slider. What the pitch? Don't splitty. I'm like,

2026
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 3: I was bar.

2027
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 4: But I'm like, well, I have never even caught I

2028
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 4: didn't catch him that much. So it was like an

2029
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 4: insecurity of mine of coming out in that moment of

2030
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 4: not not knowing what to what to.

2031
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 3: Do, and all the credit to Rajer.

2032
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 5: Like yeah, I was to say, also, let's let's call

2033
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 5: spade a spade here, Like Chappy threw the perfect pitch

2034
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 5: with him choked up down to his bat path that

2035
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 5: he hit perfectly for a home run.

2036
01:33:57,520 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 1: Sure you know what I'm saying, Like.

2037
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 4: But you're right, I called I think it's twelve. We

2038
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 4: should go back county twelve. Heaters around. But then when

2039
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 4: Miggie came in, he threw almost all sliders. Remember that

2040
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:12,719
Speaker 4: Chappy stayed in another inning and threw it on the sliders.

2041
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 2: The fact that Chappy got through, that's is the unsung

2042
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 2: hero of the entire game.

2043
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 5: Imagine, imagine your your emotional baggage. Bro, you just gave

2044
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 5: up the game, tying homer and now you've got to

2045
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 5: go out for another inning and try to get three out.

2046
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 3: Bro.

2047
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 2: Every every time as a kid watching that, ten out

2048
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 2: of ten times the guy comes back out, he's gonna

2049
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 2: give it up ten out of ten. So the fact

2050
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 2: that he was able to do.

2051
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 5: That, And that's what I don't like though, is everybody

2052
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 5: wants to talk about about Chappie giving up that homer

2053
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 5: to tie the game. Let's let no forget that. Let's

2054
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 5: talk about him coming out and going one, two, three

2055
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 5: the next inning. Yeah, because that takes the freaking cohonents.

2056
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 3: Bro We rode like they him, I mean.

2057
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 2: He out more a tagging up are the two biggest

2058
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:57,639
Speaker 2: Yeah moment you talk.

2059
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 5: About baseball people, that was the wrong thing to do

2060
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 5: is bringing back out.

2061
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm more taken out.

2062
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's in the baseball like if you talk like no,

2063
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 5: you don't tag up on that.

2064
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 1: And I'm more tagged up and got the second.

2065
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 2: And more tagged up on a deep fly ball by

2066
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 2: KB which earlier in the game the win turned around,

2067
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 2: which would have been a home run that and al Mora,

2068
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 2: who was a rookie, had the wits about him to

2069
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 2: read where that ball was going, understand that it's either

2070
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 2: a homer and out or probably homer and out.

2071
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,680
Speaker 3: How high body contributed on that.

2072
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 2: It goes and tags up and gets the second base

2073
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:34,679
Speaker 2: and then the rest of most.

2074
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 1: Coaches are going to tell you halfway yeah, and he

2075
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 1: went back and tagged out.

2076
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is the baseball with the base open, walk

2077
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:42,719
Speaker 2: me and then goes over us and the rest is history.

2078
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 2: But the fact that Chappie can get through that, then

2079
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 2: we have a seventeen minute rain delay. But when Raja

2080
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 2: hit that home run?

2081
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:52,639
Speaker 1: What do you think before Raja hit the homer after?

2082
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 5: You know, because kind of the rule of thumb is

2083
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 5: if you as a as a pitcher, if you get

2084
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 5: taken out of the inning and you have a runner on,

2085
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 5: that's yours you stay. You have to stay in the

2086
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:03,600
Speaker 5: dugout till that run scores or they get out of

2087
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 5: the inny.

2088
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: So I gave up the hit to Jose Ramirez.

2089
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 5: Uh, who's their damn guy or Brandy Geyer. He could

2090
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 5: hit a damn cannon ball for as long as that

2091
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:20,480
Speaker 5: cannonball is coming from the left side, he could hit it.

2092
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 5: Hits the ball in the gap, hose Airmera scores, So

2093
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 5: it's six to four now right, he had a two

2094
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 5: run homer, right, yes, yep, so he hit the double.

2095
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm like, all right, I'm good. I'm going

2096
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:37,600
Speaker 5: to the clubhouse. Well, I go into the clubhouse. You know,

2097
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 5: Cleveland's clubhouse. You got to go down five stairs and

2098
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 5: up three hundred and forty two stairs to get up there.

2099
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 5: Welly get up there. They've got the damn champagne. Oh

2100
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 5: my god, I fuck, they got the signs World Series champs.

2101
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:54,639
Speaker 5: They've got they walk to the clubhouse too. They've got

2102
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:57,639
Speaker 5: the damn what you mud call it, the saran wrap

2103
01:36:57,760 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 5: overall lockers, the whole thing.

2104
01:36:59,439 --> 01:36:59,679
Speaker 2: Right.

2105
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 5: So I kind of come in and I'm like, this

2106
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 5: is weird.

2107
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 2: You know, how are you going in there?

2108
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 5: I'm just curious because I was done and I was

2109
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 5: gonna go get out of my stuff and then come

2110
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 5: back down really well, and I have a pop too.

2111
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm done for the day, dude. I'm it's it's.

2112
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 2: It's literally, your job is season's over.

2113
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 1: My season's over.

2114
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:22,879
Speaker 5: I cannot re enter and there's no game eight. Okay,

2115
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 5: So I get in there and I'm taking my I

2116
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 5: take one cleat off, I get my ankle tape off,

2117
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:33,639
Speaker 5: and you know, Raja's got pitch thirty seven from Chapman

2118
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 5: that he keeps filing off or whatever. And I go

2119
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 5: to untie my second shoe, and I hear the crack

2120
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 5: and I look up and I just see the ball

2121
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 5: going over the fence.

2122
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 3: Oh, I take my shoe off.

2123
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 1: What was the cluby's name, Willie? I take my shoe off, and.

2124
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 5: I they had the entrance right there. I didn't know

2125
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 5: he was coming around the corner. I throw my shoe

2126
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 5: as hard as I can the entrance. I go, wille

2127
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 5: what he comes around the corner. The cleat missed him

2128
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 5: by this far.

2129
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 2: That's great.

2130
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 5: I go get this fucking ship down. There was people

2131
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:13,840
Speaker 5: that came out of places in that clubhouse I've never

2132
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 5: seen before. Champagne gets put up saran wrap over the top,

2133
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 5: signs down the whole thing. And then so I changed

2134
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 5: and I come back down to the to the dugout.

2135
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 5: But he was not happy with me. I apologize to

2136
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 5: him after the fact.

2137
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 2: But what what do you remember when we had the

2138
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 2: rein delay? Where were you at first? Were you?

2139
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:36,759
Speaker 1: Were you in the dugout?

2140
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 2: So when you came into the weight room, was it

2141
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:41,639
Speaker 2: after the fact, when everyone's coming in or like, what

2142
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 2: what's your biggest.

2143
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 5: I followed everybody in there, so we all went in there,

2144
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 5: and I remember it kind of being at first a

2145
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 5: little somber, you know. Everybody kind of got in there.

2146
01:38:54,479 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 5: It was almost like a simultaneous deep breath, you know, sorry,

2147
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:05,240
Speaker 5: And I remember sitting there for a second kind of

2148
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 5: you know, one of these like all right, like you're

2149
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 5: kind of you went back in your corner as a fighter,

2150
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like I got my breath,

2151
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 5: I'm gonn get a drink of water, maybe Miller light.

2152
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 5: And I just remember Jay, Hey, I remember Jay start talking,

2153
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 5: And at first it really surprised me because Jay doesn't

2154
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 5: talk right, Like Jay's not a vocal guy. And I

2155
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 5: kind of sat up and I looked at him, and

2156
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 5: I don't remember I think him speaking surprised me, you know, like,

2157
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 5: holy shit, what's he saying? What's he saying? But I

2158
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:45,640
Speaker 5: don't remember the words of what he said. I just

2159
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 5: remember him saying, all right, fuck it, guys, we have

2160
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:52,799
Speaker 5: a restart were zero zero. It's kind of what I remember.

2161
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:54,680
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's exactly what he said. You

2162
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,720
Speaker 5: guys can correct me and then the best part of

2163
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 5: the whole meeting was they're like, hey, they're pulling on

2164
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 5: the tart and Schwarver's.

2165
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 1: Leading off and he walks out and he goes, I'm

2166
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 1: gonna get a hit.

2167
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,600
Speaker 5: You drive me, you you fucking drive me in to

2168
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:08,680
Speaker 5: whoever he was talking to.

2169
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 2: He got the lead off single.

2170
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he came by me. I was selling the bench.

2171
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:14,719
Speaker 4: He had his bank gloves on, and Shawl was pitching

2172
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 4: me the cutter guy, and he goes, this guy.

2173
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:17,560
Speaker 3: Throws me and fucking cut her in.

2174
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 2: I'm want to knocked off the buck got at.

2175
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 3: It right in my face.

2176
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:25,679
Speaker 2: His fucking second year Kyle Schwarmer broken knee, just came

2177
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 2: back the third game of the season. Came back as

2178
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 2: like the fact that they let him come back, I

2179
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 2: think speaks volumes to us too, because our belief in him. Yeah, right,

2180
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:38,639
Speaker 2: Like if we didn't, I think if the boys didn't

2181
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 2: believe that.

2182
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 5: There's no other young guy, no way that would have

2183
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 5: come back and been allowed in that clubhouse like Swarber was.

2184
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:46,599
Speaker 3: And he hit the ball so hard.

2185
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:48,640
Speaker 4: Kimnus was in the grass with a shift and I

2186
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:50,599
Speaker 4: swear it's like a foot to his right or left

2187
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 4: and didn't been time to get it.

2188
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we reset. I remember in the dugout in

2189
01:40:55,960 --> 01:41:01,320
Speaker 2: the ninth when we were hitting in the ninth, everyone

2190
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 2: was fucking white as a ghost, bro, because I was like,

2191
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:06,639
Speaker 2: even me, I was, bro, I'm sitting there at first,

2192
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, this curse is fucking real. I'm just playing

2193
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:11,679
Speaker 2: with dirt like I couldn't feeling. I couldn't even hear myself.

2194
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 2: I couldn't hear anything. I was literally numb. And we

2195
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:17,680
Speaker 2: get into dugout and everyone's white as a ghost. And

2196
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 2: then Chaddie gets us through it and we give this

2197
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 2: the rain delay and then we ended up going out

2198
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:24,720
Speaker 2: scoring winning.

2199
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:27,759
Speaker 3: Another one that Miggie doesn't get enough love that second

2200
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 3: base hit never of.

2201
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 2: Course, yeah, because they ended up scoring a run in

2202
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 2: the ninth one. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

2203
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 4: Er was on first and I'm like he's fixing the

2204
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 4: steel and going back to that. I remember that home

2205
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 4: run like usually I could turn the page really fast

2206
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 4: and like okay, on to the next thing, like I

2207
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:43,679
Speaker 4: was legit. Could not get that out of my head

2208
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 4: catching for the rest of that inning, like it was

2209
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:45,679
Speaker 4: just like.

2210
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 2: The rest of my life.

2211
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:47,719
Speaker 3: Bro, Damn.

2212
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I know we won, but I still see

2213
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 2: Rajer was a special assistant for MLB, and I saw

2214
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:55,759
Speaker 2: him a lot, especially when I was at the Yankees

2215
01:41:55,920 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 2: bro Every time I saw him, I got like, you

2216
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 2: know what I mean? We won, Like, so we win again,

2217
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 2: let's go back. KB gets the round, ber I got,

2218
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 2: I catch the last out. Where are you? What are

2219
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 2: you thinking? This is now your third World Series championship,

2220
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 2: one hundred and eight year curse.

2221
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 1: I was not well in the dugout. Was not well.

2222
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 3: You hate side note, you hate sitting the bench.

2223
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:29,599
Speaker 4: He like he can't handle the nerves, all right, you'd

2224
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 4: go to your routine during the game.

2225
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 2: It's one of the greatest left handed pictures of all time.

2226
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 2: Just does not on an actual serious note, dealing with

2227
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:42,559
Speaker 2: his own demons of like nerves routine to get him

2228
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:44,560
Speaker 2: in the one of the greatest left handed pitchers of

2229
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:48,639
Speaker 2: all time Hall of Fame pitcher, and everyone goes through that, you.

2230
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 1: Know, like, I didn't like so.

2231
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 5: I played in two incredibly historic stadiums, Okay for the

2232
01:42:56,439 --> 01:43:01,560
Speaker 5: majority of my career, even when Rick redid their dugouts,

2233
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:04,639
Speaker 5: two of the worst places to sit in the dugout

2234
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:05,519
Speaker 5: and watch the fucking the game.

2235
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 2: You're we're in Cleveland, John, Well.

2236
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, well, hold on, normally, I'm talking about normally.

2237
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 5: Wrigley is four and a half miles from home plate. Okay,

2238
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:23,519
Speaker 5: Fenway is twenty seven feet from home plate, and you

2239
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 5: can't see anything.

2240
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 2: All right. Yah.

2241
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 5: I know it looked as if I wasn't a great teammate,

2242
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 5: but I liked being able to see what was actually happening,

2243
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 5: because you know how it is. You sit on the bench,

2244
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 5: guy gets wrung up on a call. The guy goes, oh,

2245
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 5: that's not a strike. Now, everybody in the dugouts like that.

2246
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 5: Get your shit together, right. Well, when you're sitting in

2247
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 5: downstairs and you watch the TV like, no, that's a good pitch.

2248
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:48,760
Speaker 2: So you were downstairs when we wanted them.

2249
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:51,479
Speaker 5: No, hold on, I was just saying, I gotta know, John,

2250
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 5: this is why I was not well. I was up there.

2251
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:58,719
Speaker 5: We bring in Carl Edwards Junior to finish the game. Okay,

2252
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 5: I'm going back. The only way to call my nerves

2253
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:03,840
Speaker 5: is I'm going to boresy, and I'm looking at the

2254
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 5: scouting report with boresy like, all right, I know this

2255
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 5: dude only throws cut or curveball. What do we got

2256
01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 5: And he'd be like, all right, we've got X, Y

2257
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:11,560
Speaker 5: and Z.

2258
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:15,640
Speaker 2: Mike Borzello was our like our scouting report coordinator, but

2259
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 2: such good game call.

2260
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 5: So so that, yeah, that's I should have said that first.

2261
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 5: But so anyway, I'm going to him to where I'm

2262
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 5: like trying to call the game, trying to take my

2263
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 5: mind off of what's going on, and I'm literally pacing

2264
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 5: from him to the end of Doug, him to the

2265
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 5: end of Dougah. So Carl gets two quick outs and

2266
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:37,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, let's go, we got to get one more

2267
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 5: infield pop up. Let's just make it simple. Okay, I

2268
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 5: think he walks. Somebody walks. Now we bringing Mike Montgomery.

2269
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:52,080
Speaker 5: No offense to Mike Montgomery. Okay, but I look at

2270
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 5: Borsy and I go, what are we doing.

2271
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:57,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, we got no fend.

2272
01:44:57,880 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 1: Like I said, no fense.

2273
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 5: We're in the tree trope, roundant and closed for us

2274
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 5: for three quarters of the year until we got Chappie, we.

2275
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 3: Got Woody, we got other area and lack here down there.

2276
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Arieta, like we got these people once again, Mike,

2277
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 5: no offense, But well.

2278
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 1: I love you.

2279
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 5: We've got, We've got.

2280
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 1: He was one of their bench players.

2281
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:20,240
Speaker 3: Michael Martinez. Ye.

2282
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:21,639
Speaker 2: First the Battle World series.

2283
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 1: World series, mind you.

2284
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 3: Because they made a switch when he brought on the left.

2285
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 1: Remind me to go back to that hold on.

2286
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 3: Who was it, Coca Coca Chris.

2287
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 5: That's right, he took Coco out. We did something I

2288
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 5: can't remember what we did. We made a pitching change.

2289
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:41,439
Speaker 5: They brought Coco in for that guy. Coco only was

2290
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 5: hitting left handed, and then we brought in Mike Martinez,

2291
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:51,799
Speaker 5: so they took Coco out. And so anyway, I literally

2292
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 5: take one step, I come off the rail. I take

2293
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 5: one step to boards. eCos, don't worry, we have spin.

2294
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:02,479
Speaker 5: And I'm like that sounds. I go, oh, Montgomery is

2295
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 5: a badass.

2296
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 3: Curveball. We're good.

2297
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 5: Let's go first pitch curveball, roll over to KB. I

2298
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 5: did everything I could to hurdle that thing. I went

2299
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 5: to jump and I was like nope, and put my

2300
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 5: foot down and then jumped. And then as I did

2301
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:19,680
Speaker 5: that and landed, Jason Hammill face plants right next to me,

2302
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 5: and I'm like, I am so glad I put my

2303
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:23,800
Speaker 5: foot on the rail because that would have been me.

2304
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:29,559
Speaker 2: Oh bro, that's celebration. The celebration that night was special.

2305
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 2: We party, we pop champagne, we fly back to Wrigley,

2306
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 2: we get we're all blitzed, right, And I remember getting

2307
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 2: off the bus at Wrigley. Well, I remember on the

2308
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:43,679
Speaker 2: field giving you this big hung bro, like it felt

2309
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 2: so good, Like you win the World Series and first

2310
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:49,960
Speaker 2: off your gas run a two year run for me

2311
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 2: at least, like I just learned how to win fifteen.

2312
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:55,599
Speaker 2: All my energy now is winning the World Series this year.

2313
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 2: It's like a lot make or break so game sen

2314
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:00,120
Speaker 2: of the World Shiti. I actually remember talking to this

2315
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:02,200
Speaker 2: at second base at some point during the same seven

2316
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:05,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, thank god, the season's over tomorrow. Like

2317
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 2: win or lose, right, We're still at the heat of

2318
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:08,760
Speaker 2: the battle, but like to be able to just turn

2319
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 2: off for a second and talk to him. Giving you

2320
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:14,240
Speaker 2: guys a hug, right, is the best feeling in the world.

2321
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 2: We party with our families the plane ride, have great

2322
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 2: pictures of my parents and Emily, my girlfriend then soon

2323
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:24,920
Speaker 2: to be fiance, and my wife baby Mama love her.

2324
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 2: But just the celebration of the families. And then we

2325
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 2: get home to Wrigley and I have the trophy. So

2326
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 2: I walk off the bus with the trophy and like

2327
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:37,200
Speaker 2: there's fans outside of Wrigley and it's great. And I

2328
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:39,360
Speaker 2: look at VJ Air traveling secretary. I'm like, hey, like,

2329
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 2: what do I do with this now? I don't know?

2330
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:47,559
Speaker 2: So I just took it home. I took the trophy home. Well, bro,

2331
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 2: what's so mad? I not only going to make it

2332
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 2: so mad. I get home at like six thirty. We

2333
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 2: lay down for like, I don't know, an hour and

2334
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 2: a half, like that's the only sea behalf for like

2335
01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:03,280
Speaker 2: four days. Get text phone, I'm up and Vj's like, hey,

2336
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 2: John's pissed off. He took the trophy home. And I'm like,

2337
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:07,800
Speaker 2: how the fuck? First off, how the fuck does John

2338
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 2: know I have the trophy? It's thirty in the morning,

2339
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't really care, Like the trophies

2340
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:18,760
Speaker 2: in my bed overlooking the Chicago River and Lake Michigan. Right,

2341
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:21,560
Speaker 2: So I'm like, fuck, John's mad at me. Right, I'm like,

2342
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:23,679
Speaker 2: all right, So I get up, which was a great

2343
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 2: reason to get up.

2344
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 1: It was love mad. It was yeah, no, I know,

2345
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't bring.

2346
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 2: The trophy back to Wrigley. And then I think it

2347
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 2: was like nine thirty or ten am. Emily and I

2348
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 2: got to the bar Bottle blonde O. Our guy Eric

2349
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 2: Farron opened up. I texted him, hey, you opened up.

2350
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:43,400
Speaker 2: He's big Cubs fan. And we sat at the bar

2351
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:47,320
Speaker 2: from like ten am to like two am, and then

2352
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 2: from two am we went to underground and just went

2353
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:53,920
Speaker 2: till like the next morning, and like throughout the day

2354
01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 2: everyone started coming and partying. But for me, it was

2355
01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 2: like it was just I was in heaven.

2356
01:48:59,320 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 3: Bro.

2357
01:48:59,479 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 2: It was like my dream came true, right and I'm

2358
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 2: with all my friends and family. But where what were

2359
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:08,479
Speaker 2: you doing after? What were you doing that you texted

2360
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:10,880
Speaker 2: at eight thirty in the morning saying you're mad at

2361
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 2: me for taking a trophy?

2362
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 1: And I don't know if I went to sleep at

2363
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 1: that particular time.

2364
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 2: Air was pregnant. It was now sy Sy Elizabeth soon

2365
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 2: to be nine, soon to be nine, which is crazy,

2366
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:27,439
Speaker 2: So I.

2367
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 1: Don't, I don't.

2368
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:33,840
Speaker 5: There's a little bit of a blur there one sleep

2369
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:43,320
Speaker 5: deprivation to some beverages were in involved there. I I

2370
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 5: just remember, I don't know how I even came to

2371
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 5: about it. I was like where somebody might have said

2372
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:50,920
Speaker 5: something to me, and I was like, where's the trophy?

2373
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 2: BJ?

2374
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 1: And he goes Riz took it home and I got mad.

2375
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 2: Fucking right, I took it home. Bro, I was there

2376
01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:58,280
Speaker 2: with the one hundred lost team.

2377
01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:02,000
Speaker 1: Well that's not my him, it really is all. It's

2378
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,759
Speaker 1: not my fault. I had you got to pick better.

2379
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:08,720
Speaker 3: Timy agreed, agreed, whatever, John.

2380
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 1: Anyway, let's get let's get to the parade.

2381
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:13,799
Speaker 2: What what happened?

2382
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 5: Rossie almost died? We're on the We're on the bus

2383
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:19,439
Speaker 5: so well, Rossi lack and Woody almost died.

2384
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:22,560
Speaker 2: I'm on the second last bus with KB and the

2385
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 2: country cowboys.

2386
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 1: Get right here, didn't you?

2387
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:25,640
Speaker 3: I had my nose almost.

2388
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:28,679
Speaker 2: We're pulling out a Wrigley and we're getting like these

2389
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:33,160
Speaker 2: look granted. Meanwhile, this is the first time the Cubs

2390
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:35,720
Speaker 2: have ever done a parade, right, Like, no one knows

2391
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:39,560
Speaker 2: what the last parade was like. So we have we

2392
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 2: have the buses, the double decker buses, and we have

2393
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:42,640
Speaker 2: like our guides on.

2394
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:44,720
Speaker 5: There not getting rupty. But do you remember when we

2395
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:48,640
Speaker 5: got to the clubhouse and I had that whiskey. I

2396
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 5: never told you this. I had somebody date that whiskey.

2397
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 5: It was from nineteen oh eight.

2398
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,120
Speaker 2: No shit, really. I had a whiskey too from nineteen

2399
01:50:57,120 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 2: o eight that I took a shower of my dad

2400
01:50:58,280 --> 01:50:58,880
Speaker 2: after we won.

2401
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 5: So that remember that and my locker I had the

2402
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 5: old bottle that had the messed up thing. It was

2403
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 5: from nineteen oh eight and you'r me, you your dad

2404
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 5: my Oh yeah yes, And we all took like the

2405
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 5: cork was like dissolved in it, and we're like, well,

2406
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:13,400
Speaker 5: we're either gonna that.

2407
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 2: That moment at Wrigley where we were all there, yeah, yeah,

2408
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 2: that was cool.

2409
01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 3: Everybody's family.

2410
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:20,640
Speaker 2: I have a I had a guitar signed by all

2411
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:22,639
Speaker 2: the boys with the World Series patch.

2412
01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 3: That's what I've got. He gave that to me. He

2413
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 3: gave me. We had my favorite thing I've got.

2414
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 2: Everyone was there and it was just so special. And

2415
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 2: we get on the buses and we have like our

2416
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:34,360
Speaker 2: like almost tour guide on the bus basically giving us

2417
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:36,400
Speaker 2: like a tutorial, like, hey, when we get out of Wrigley,

2418
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:39,240
Speaker 2: the power lines are really low, so there's gonna be

2419
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 2: a few times we have to dock on.

2420
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 3: We didn't get that message.

2421
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:46,880
Speaker 4: We had camera cruit on ours, okay, and these these

2422
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:49,640
Speaker 4: wires that pulled a sheet so we could walk from

2423
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 4: the parking lot to the to the States. So there

2424
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 4: was these these steel wires that held the curtain up. Well,

2425
01:51:57,160 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 4: everybody had forgotten. They didn't tell us this, but everybody

2426
01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 4: for gotten.

2427
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 5: Everybody's excited, Yeah, how are we doing it?

2428
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 4: Comes we go to that and the camera guy was

2429
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 4: facing us, having a camera shooting us on the back

2430
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 4: of the bus.

2431
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 2: There's footage of this, and I've never seen it.

2432
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:17,720
Speaker 3: I hadn't seen it.

2433
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:20,040
Speaker 4: I han't seen it, but I know the camera guy

2434
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:23,679
Speaker 4: got hit first. His camera caught and the thing pulled

2435
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 4: really taut right as we're driving, and so his camera

2436
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 4: goes boom and falls and then whips the line right

2437
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:33,360
Speaker 4: across Lackey's hat.

2438
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:35,720
Speaker 3: Sunglasses went off. He got hit across the face. I

2439
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 3: got hit right in the nose, nose bleeding, Thank god,

2440
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:40,000
Speaker 3: if it would hit me. Here we go off the

2441
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 3: back back dead. Probably I probably got a statue.

2442
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:47,680
Speaker 5: And I don't know what happened, but I kind of

2443
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:50,679
Speaker 5: went like this, like I don't know why you escaped.

2444
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 5: Had I had a damn gouge in the top of

2445
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 5: my head right here for like.

2446
01:52:57,240 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 2: Six I remember seeing you guys bleeding because I was

2447
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 2: in the bus and front of you.

2448
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was I had my wife at the time

2449
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 4: breaking out tampons and stick up my nose.

2450
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 3: It stopped bleeding. I could wave to the fans.

2451
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 2: I was five million people.

2452
01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 3: Five million people stage was crazy.

2453
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:16,679
Speaker 2: I'm sure the Boston parades were insane, the duck boats,

2454
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 2: the passion, but it wasn't It wasn't bro that. Our

2455
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:23,960
Speaker 2: parade was like it went forever and the fans and

2456
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 2: then we get on stage, what like, what's your what

2457
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:27,760
Speaker 2: do you take away from all that?

2458
01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 5: So I say this when we were on stage and

2459
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:33,759
Speaker 5: they were like calling people up there to like say something.

2460
01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:37,800
Speaker 5: When you're standing there and you're with your boys and

2461
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 5: you're like kind of away from you. You know you're there,

2462
01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:42,160
Speaker 5: but you're removed, you know what I'm saying, Like you're

2463
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 5: not having a microphone in front of you and having

2464
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:45,240
Speaker 5: to talk.

2465
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 1: You're like, damn, that's a lot of people. You're kind

2466
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 1: of like, that's a lot of people.

2467
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:50,759
Speaker 2: There's people in fucking trees.

2468
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 3: That's all I remember was heads and then the tree top.

2469
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:58,559
Speaker 2: But deep remember crossing the Chicago River that it was blue.

2470
01:53:58,640 --> 01:53:59,679
Speaker 2: They died of the river blue.

2471
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 5: So Big Gem's like, hey, John, you're next I'm like, yeah,

2472
01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 5: cool man, I've got enough liquid courage.

2473
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 1: We're good. I don't like talking in front of people.

2474
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 5: And five million people, five million people have a million

2475
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 5: and he calls me like somebody talks.

2476
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:14,760
Speaker 1: I think it was you. I think it went after you.

2477
01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 1: And he's like, you're up, let's go, well, stumble up there,

2478
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:23,920
Speaker 1: get up to the podium and you look up and

2479
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, I don't know what to say.

2480
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:31,840
Speaker 5: There's a lot there's a lot of damn people out here.

2481
01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 5: From five feet right, you're staying with your boys like

2482
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 5: you're good, you no problem. You're like, damn, that's a

2483
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 5: lot of people. You get up and you're like, holy fuck,

2484
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:44,240
Speaker 5: what is this? And then all I said was how

2485
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 5: about this shit? That's what came out of my mouth.

2486
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 5: That was that was my how about this ship? And

2487
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 5: of course as soon as I say it, I look

2488
01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:58,240
Speaker 5: right there and there's like a nine year old kid

2489
01:54:58,360 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 5: just looking at me like.

2490
01:54:59,160 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 2: That, I'm.

2491
01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 1: Once again the asshole.

2492
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 2: Sorry, we want when you win, you can do anything.

2493
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should have said.

2494
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:07,240
Speaker 2: I mean you used to always tell me though, winning

2495
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 2: solves everything. It's all when you win. And I tell

2496
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:12,720
Speaker 2: us all young players that I play with, especially now

2497
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 2: in the social media air days, like winning solves all

2498
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:20,160
Speaker 2: your problems and you said that where it's like you

2499
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 2: can come up and have this whole social media following

2500
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 2: and do all this stuff. But when you win, that's

2501
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:29,160
Speaker 2: how you make the real money, like, because when you win,

2502
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 2: you can do whatever you want.

2503
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 3: That was my saying being a backup catcher. It's like

2504
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:36,400
Speaker 3: everybody wants a winner. Everybody wants a winner. You're on

2505
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 3: a winning team, you're just gonna you know, solves everything.

2506
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:40,880
Speaker 5: And the guys so they had to keep playing, you know,

2507
01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:43,800
Speaker 5: Like you're looking at sures Er Verlander right now, like

2508
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:47,360
Speaker 5: they're forty two, forty whatever, forty one forty two still pitching.

2509
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 1: Well, they're pitching because they've won right right right. And

2510
01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they don't have good stuff and they

2511
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:54,480
Speaker 1: shouldn't be pitching. They still have good stuff.

2512
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 5: But teams want those jokers around because they've won right

2513
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 5: right right right. Like you, if you win, people want you.

2514
01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of knowledge in winning and experience

2515
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:07,920
Speaker 3: and having that no doubt.

2516
01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 4: I want to know because we're going down that road

2517
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 4: looking back at everything. Right, you're retired, you've been home

2518
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:21,680
Speaker 4: raising kids, enjoying your life, Like looking back ten years ago, Now,

2519
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 4: what would you tell John Lester than that, you know,

2520
01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 4: now enjoy it more.

2521
01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you fucking enjoyed it though.

2522
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 1: Man, I did enjoy it, but I didn't. I didn't

2523
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 1: relish in it.

2524
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 2: You know.

2525
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:40,520
Speaker 5: Like I had this conversation with ROSSI one day, and

2526
01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 5: I'm kind of envious of like the relationships that he has,

2527
01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:47,200
Speaker 5: which obviously little different personalities.

2528
01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:50,640
Speaker 1: Okay, like lately more vivacious.

2529
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 2: Like Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, yeah, you know, Dancing

2530
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 2: with the Stars lives in the middle of nowhere.

2531
01:56:55,840 --> 01:57:00,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, but my thing is is like and

2532
01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:02,880
Speaker 5: I'll never forget this. So it's Game one of the

2533
01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:07,800
Speaker 5: twenty thirteen World Series. Okay, Fenway Park, Me and you

2534
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:10,920
Speaker 5: were getting ready to go out, and their weight room

2535
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 5: is upstairs, and where the lounge cherry to hang out

2536
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:16,960
Speaker 5: was upstairs. Well, I walk through, and I come up

2537
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 5: the stairs and I hear music playing. It sounds like

2538
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:22,560
Speaker 5: radios is playing in the or the you know, speakers

2539
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:24,560
Speaker 5: playing in the weight room. And I get up there

2540
01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 5: and fucking Kenny Chesney has like ten dudes around him

2541
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 5: just jamming big Green tractor, And I look at those guys,

2542
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:35,840
Speaker 5: and I'm like, man, that sure looks fun. I had

2543
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 5: to go hop my ass on the bike and get

2544
01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:38,200
Speaker 5: ready for game one.

2545
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 2: Right.

2546
01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:41,200
Speaker 5: Point of what I'm trying to make is I'm not

2547
01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 5: saying that's the time to relish in it, but the

2548
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 5: times that Dabbo comes into the clubhouse, or Brett Eldris

2549
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:53,080
Speaker 5: comes in the clubhouse or eighty Vet or Bill Murray

2550
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 5: or whateva, taking ten minutes and going over there and

2551
01:57:57,080 --> 01:58:00,520
Speaker 5: talking to him, stopping what I'm doing and going and

2552
01:58:00,560 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 5: talking to him. But also too, I know in the

2553
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 5: back of my head, if I stop what I'm doing,

2554
01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:07,040
Speaker 5: I'm not going to go back and finish it.

2555
01:58:07,640 --> 01:58:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know so, but that's what made you great too.

2556
01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 3: So it's like I definitely, I definitely.

2557
01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:13,680
Speaker 1: Get that, but I do.

2558
01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 5: Wish I would have put just to tick more effort

2559
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:22,120
Speaker 5: into some relationships in my when I was playing.

2560
01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:27,600
Speaker 4: That's what's all about, right, We're talking about all these

2561
01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:32,080
Speaker 4: stories we're going to tell throughout this series. Is like

2562
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:35,160
Speaker 4: it takes a group of special men to come together

2563
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:37,200
Speaker 4: and you create it. We're brothers for life, right, and

2564
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:40,040
Speaker 4: so those are racist ships are special and I think

2565
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:40,440
Speaker 4: they grow.

2566
01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 3: But when you're in the middle of it. You're just

2567
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:43,760
Speaker 3: in the middle of it. You're doing you bro, You're

2568
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:45,160
Speaker 3: doing You're You're you.

2569
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:47,520
Speaker 4: You were brought in at a high price tag to

2570
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 4: establish what winning is and this is how we go

2571
01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:54,000
Speaker 4: about our ship. And THEO recognized that because he had

2572
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:56,080
Speaker 4: been around you, and you had been around great players,

2573
01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:58,080
Speaker 4: and that's the great thing about being a veteran and

2574
01:58:58,120 --> 01:59:00,400
Speaker 4: passing that stuff down. So the reason why you get

2575
01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:02,200
Speaker 4: the ball in game seven and we are all i mean,

2576
01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:05,880
Speaker 4: going game one of each freaking series. It's like, this

2577
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:07,960
Speaker 4: is the writer, die dude, that's putting us on our back.

2578
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:10,520
Speaker 4: This is a motherfucker that here we come right and

2579
01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:12,440
Speaker 4: after him, we got another good one, you know, and

2580
01:59:12,520 --> 01:59:13,360
Speaker 4: we got another good one.

2581
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 2: John, you single handedly, I said at the beginning, you're

2582
01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:19,760
Speaker 2: the best freeing and signing in Cups history. You brought

2583
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:26,120
Speaker 2: winning single handedly to an organization, from your leadership on

2584
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 2: how you went about your business, from how you treated

2585
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:32,120
Speaker 2: everyone else, from how you were like a giant teddy

2586
01:59:32,160 --> 01:59:35,560
Speaker 2: bear at times but also a prick as well.

2587
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:39,400
Speaker 3: So generous every team dinner, like all.

2588
01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:41,800
Speaker 2: My cowboy boots are from John. On John's dime, I

2589
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:43,640
Speaker 2: have two pairs of these have a Rolex two hundred,

2590
01:59:43,880 --> 01:59:46,960
Speaker 2: und win rolelegs, private jet hours, you flew me an

2591
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:51,480
Speaker 2: Emily home on your dime, blew Grandma passed away. Like

2592
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:54,840
Speaker 2: all of these things just created so much love and

2593
01:59:55,240 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 2: within and brow through one sixty.

2594
01:59:57,880 --> 01:59:59,280
Speaker 1: Two also to man like.

2595
02:00:01,320 --> 02:00:03,200
Speaker 5: You're my boys, Like you know what I'm saying, Like

2596
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:06,440
Speaker 5: E like yeah, but like everybody's my Like if you're

2597
02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:09,440
Speaker 5: on my team and we're doing it like we're we're

2598
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:12,920
Speaker 5: we're supposed to be in this together. I spend more

2599
02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:18,760
Speaker 5: time with you than my family, right, So I didn't

2600
02:00:18,760 --> 02:00:21,800
Speaker 5: care if it were in the tree, no offense. I

2601
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:23,640
Speaker 5: didn't care if it was your grandmother or if it

2602
02:00:23,800 --> 02:00:26,000
Speaker 5: was the twenty sixth man on the roster's grandmother.

2603
02:00:26,360 --> 02:00:28,720
Speaker 1: If you need to get home, I've.

2604
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:32,880
Speaker 5: Been blessed with this perk, right, Yeah, I put in

2605
02:00:32,960 --> 02:00:34,800
Speaker 5: the work and I got it and whatever. But at

2606
02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:38,880
Speaker 5: the end of the day, that's not like you should

2607
02:00:38,920 --> 02:00:40,920
Speaker 5: go home and if you got to go home at

2608
02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:43,280
Speaker 5: midnight and get on you go. Like That's the way

2609
02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:46,240
Speaker 5: I look at things. And I didn't do it because

2610
02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:50,760
Speaker 5: I wanted the fucking story on ESPN. Never because I

2611
02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:53,440
Speaker 5: loved every I loved you guys. I showed my love

2612
02:00:53,520 --> 02:00:58,960
Speaker 5: in different ways. Wasn't the nicest person sometimes, but I

2613
02:00:59,080 --> 02:01:01,400
Speaker 5: cared about what I did, and I cared about you guys,

2614
02:01:01,440 --> 02:01:04,560
Speaker 5: and I cared about fucking winning, dude, Like you play

2615
02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:08,400
Speaker 5: fucking sports to win. He said, that's right, bro, played

2616
02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:10,600
Speaker 5: to just go participate.

2617
02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:14,360
Speaker 2: In an air of In an air of social media,

2618
02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:18,040
Speaker 2: all the things you and Pharah and your family have

2619
02:01:18,200 --> 02:01:22,080
Speaker 2: done are It's like Instagram versus reality.

2620
02:01:22,160 --> 02:01:22,240
Speaker 4: Right.

2621
02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:24,040
Speaker 2: You have people who put stuff on Instagram and think

2622
02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:27,440
Speaker 2: they're living this lavish life. You lived it behind the scenes,

2623
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 2: and you have done the coolest things that nobody's ever

2624
02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:34,920
Speaker 2: heard of doing and literally changed my life on that

2625
02:01:35,040 --> 02:01:36,600
Speaker 2: because when I was younger, it was like, you know,

2626
02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:38,120
Speaker 2: you want to flaunt a little bit, like I'm in

2627
02:01:38,160 --> 02:01:40,800
Speaker 2: the big leagues, I'm young, I'm single. It different, and

2628
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:43,240
Speaker 2: then I see you and fifteen come over and it

2629
02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:47,240
Speaker 2: was like from that day on, like I rarely ever

2630
02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:50,520
Speaker 2: post anything I'm really doing because of how you went

2631
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:52,920
Speaker 2: about it and like how you shape my life as

2632
02:01:52,960 --> 02:01:55,920
Speaker 2: a twenty five year old. Now I'm thirty six, you

2633
02:01:56,000 --> 02:01:58,240
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So it's like I don't think

2634
02:01:58,240 --> 02:02:03,240
Speaker 2: you really understand how much, John, I don't think you

2635
02:02:03,400 --> 02:02:07,560
Speaker 2: understand how what you mean to me? All right? I

2636
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:10,000
Speaker 2: got one one question too, because he asked about the

2637
02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:14,480
Speaker 2: ten years. If you can go back to that season,

2638
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:18,600
Speaker 2: playoffs or regular season, what's one moment you go back

2639
02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:22,000
Speaker 2: to that stands out, that's like, you'll never forget.

2640
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:27,000
Speaker 1: The whole season, the whole.

2641
02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:29,760
Speaker 2: Season, spring training, regular season, postseason, whatever.

2642
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:38,000
Speaker 5: I think the feeling I had walking out of the

2643
02:02:38,080 --> 02:02:42,640
Speaker 5: dugout with Rossy in Game five of the World Series, damn,

2644
02:02:43,320 --> 02:02:45,840
Speaker 5: and like stepping on that top step. It was the

2645
02:02:45,880 --> 02:02:50,360
Speaker 5: old dugout. I always went on the left side and

2646
02:02:51,160 --> 02:02:54,640
Speaker 5: stepping out. I always tried to make it a point

2647
02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:57,800
Speaker 5: when I stepped out to look around. And I got

2648
02:02:57,880 --> 02:03:00,760
Speaker 5: out and I started in left field, and I looked.

2649
02:03:01,160 --> 02:03:03,600
Speaker 5: I didn't go behind me, but I looked all the

2650
02:03:03,640 --> 02:03:06,320
Speaker 5: way as I'm walking, I looked as far as I

2651
02:03:06,360 --> 02:03:09,280
Speaker 5: could look this way, and I was like, there is

2652
02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:11,000
Speaker 5: not an empty fucking seat in this place.

2653
02:03:12,640 --> 02:03:16,720
Speaker 1: Wow, like that feeling, that's a badass feeling.

2654
02:03:17,120 --> 02:03:19,280
Speaker 3: Your fucking song came on. I was so emotional.

2655
02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:22,640
Speaker 4: I was singing, Jason Alden, you no, We're here at

2656
02:03:22,680 --> 02:03:24,360
Speaker 4: the top of my fucking lugs.

2657
02:03:24,120 --> 02:03:26,640
Speaker 3: For hide my mask just so you could a go wreck.

2658
02:03:26,440 --> 02:03:28,720
Speaker 4: Because I was just like my heart was on another

2659
02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:31,440
Speaker 4: level and you're out there just like here we freaking go.

2660
02:03:32,160 --> 02:03:34,400
Speaker 5: So I think I was on like pitch three and

2661
02:03:34,520 --> 02:03:37,320
Speaker 5: it's like a point where like the drums come in

2662
02:03:37,480 --> 02:03:41,680
Speaker 5: or whatever, and you know, I had my little routine

2663
02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:42,040
Speaker 5: that I did.

2664
02:03:42,120 --> 02:03:45,720
Speaker 1: I looked down or I do this look down. I

2665
02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:47,600
Speaker 1: never put the ball on my glove and then I'd

2666
02:03:47,640 --> 02:03:48,320
Speaker 1: lift my leg.

2667
02:03:48,240 --> 02:03:50,840
Speaker 5: Tap the ball or tapped the glove and then look

2668
02:03:50,960 --> 02:03:54,400
Speaker 5: home and ROSSI is back there before I throw the ball.

2669
02:03:54,280 --> 02:03:59,160
Speaker 3: And he'said, I had to get out on the Uh.

2670
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:00,640
Speaker 3: We've got a couple that.

2671
02:04:00,760 --> 02:04:03,160
Speaker 1: Was like that. We were talking about this last night.

2672
02:04:05,120 --> 02:04:09,000
Speaker 5: That moment, like I'll that moment is like ingrained in

2673
02:04:09,120 --> 02:04:11,400
Speaker 5: my head. And then the other moment was we were

2674
02:04:11,400 --> 02:04:13,640
Speaker 5: talking about last night the thirteen World Series for Game

2675
02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:19,280
Speaker 5: one and national anthem plays and the flyover was late

2676
02:04:20,240 --> 02:04:22,840
Speaker 5: and you know, I'm getting ready to throw a pitch

2677
02:04:23,080 --> 02:04:25,160
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, you just hear you know,

2678
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:26,560
Speaker 5: it's it's pitch black.

2679
02:04:26,600 --> 02:04:30,520
Speaker 3: You can before the game, yeah, Mary J. Blige whales, Yeah,

2680
02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:33,400
Speaker 3: And then this flyover while all you see.

2681
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:35,960
Speaker 5: Is the after burners as they passed Fenway and just

2682
02:04:36,440 --> 02:04:39,600
Speaker 5: do this and it's loud and you just like you

2683
02:04:39,680 --> 02:04:41,760
Speaker 5: could feel them. And I was getting ready to throw

2684
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:43,600
Speaker 5: a pitch and I put my foot back down and

2685
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:46,560
Speaker 5: I love planes. I love flyovers, and so I'm like

2686
02:04:47,680 --> 02:04:49,360
Speaker 5: looking for him, just trying to see what kind of

2687
02:04:49,360 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 5: planes they were or whatever, and I, you know, kind

2688
02:04:52,560 --> 02:04:54,600
Speaker 5: of dig back in and I looked down and Rossie

2689
02:04:54,600 --> 02:05:00,160
Speaker 5: and ROSSI squatted down. He's like yeah, but like at

2690
02:05:00,160 --> 02:05:03,680
Speaker 5: the same time, it's like, you know, like you're having fun.

2691
02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:06,680
Speaker 5: You're having fun. It's a grind, but it's it's the

2692
02:05:06,800 --> 02:05:11,720
Speaker 5: best man like, when you're in that moment. I wouldn't

2693
02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:15,480
Speaker 5: I wouldn't trade that, yeah for anything.

2694
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:20,400
Speaker 2: Cheers for ten years, ten years? How about that? Hey?

2695
02:05:21,440 --> 02:05:23,960
Speaker 2: By the way, this is John's famous line. Hangovers or

2696
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:28,080
Speaker 2: ten hangovers are temporary legends last forever, and for us winning,

2697
02:05:28,200 --> 02:05:28,920
Speaker 2: we last forever.

2698
02:05:30,120 --> 02:05:34,640
Speaker 3: Fuck yeah, Johnny Man, that's a wrap.

2699
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:36,360
Speaker 1: I think that's all you guys are gonna.

2700
02:05:38,240 --> 02:05:39,840
Speaker 3: How long are you talking? Seven hours