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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Middlecoff three and Out podcast.
Speaker 1: How are we doing? Hopefully everyone's doing well. We had
Speaker 1: a little doubleheader tonight the Baltimore Ravens. The score looks
Speaker 1: a lot closer than the game actually was. Dominate the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Derreck Henry, I mean, looks like an
Speaker 1: MVP candidate right there with his quarterback who has just
Speaker 1: found the fountain of youth. He looks incredible. I mean,
Speaker 1: he looks as fresh as he's ever looked. Tampa had
Speaker 1: one of the worst nights you'll ever see for a
Speaker 1: good team. A couple injuries that are going to be very,
Speaker 1: very very hard to overcome, and now their schedule the
Speaker 1: next three weeks gets really difficult. So pressure on Todd
Speaker 1: Bowles and Baker Mayfield to kind of man the ship
Speaker 1: here because it could spiral fast. And then we had
Speaker 1: a Jim Harbaugh meltdown over some penalties. One you know,
Speaker 1: I think the refs got it right, and the other
Speaker 1: one at the end of the game was really really bad,
Speaker 1: and the Chargers lose to the Cardinals, who get a
Speaker 1: big win. Now we're in second place in the NFC West.
Speaker 1: Kyler makes a couple awesome plays James Connor. We'll dive
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Speaker 1: Don't love these Monday night games, but we're gonna start
Speaker 1: positive because football is better than no football, even though
Speaker 1: one game would have been fined. Let's start with the
Speaker 1: Ravens Tampa Bay game, and I want to start with Baltimore,
Speaker 1: who obviously was the number one seed, and people like
Speaker 1: me not only thought they were gonna beat the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: but expected them to win the Super Bowl because of
Speaker 1: what they did to the forty nine ers on that
Speaker 1: Christmas Day, Christmas Eve, whatever night. They destroyed him right
Speaker 1: at Levi Stadium. This defense is not as good, but
Speaker 1: this offense is looking incredible. The offensive line, which was
Speaker 1: a question mark early in the season, looks a lot
Speaker 1: more formidable, but offensively they have the MVP of the league.
Speaker 1: Lamar is one of the best quarterbacks, definitely one of
Speaker 1: the most dynamic players in NFL history. And they showed
Speaker 1: a stats to night in the history of Monday night football.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got to be one of the greatest
Speaker 1: Monday night football players in the history of the league.
Speaker 1: And he is playing at a really, really high level.
Speaker 1: And part of that is because his friend Mark Andrews
Speaker 1: is back from a major injury from last year. Looks fantastic,
Speaker 1: looks like he's coming into his own. He keeps getting healthy.
Speaker 1: He is a high end player. We know likely's really good.
Speaker 1: Jay Flowers is a stud bateman was making plays tonight.
Speaker 1: But to me, the difference in this team like watching Harball.
Speaker 1: He's basically running the Ravens backfield. Over the last three
Speaker 1: or four years. Derrick Henry is one of the best
Speaker 1: running backs in the history of the NFL, in the
Speaker 1: history of the sport. Honestly, he's one of the most
Speaker 1: unique body types in the history of the league. I
Speaker 1: went to a Titans practice years ago. My buddy Ryan
Speaker 1: was getting married and we had his bachelor party in Nashville,
Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, Friday Saturday Sunday, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna make a week
Speaker 1: of it. I went on like Monday afternoon. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'll take my golf clubs and I'll go to a
Speaker 1: Titan's practice. Knew John Robinson actually interviewed him for this
Speaker 1: podcast in his office. This was before the volume was created.
Speaker 1: And I went to a practice. Matt Lafleur was actually
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator that year, had just been hired. It
Speaker 1: was OTA's and I remember being at practice standing and
Speaker 1: I took a picture. This must have been twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: and it was Dion Lewis standing next to Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: and I just remember looking at this human being, going
Speaker 1: how could you possibly think about tackling this guy? And
Speaker 1: as the game's going tonight and you go, obviously there
Speaker 1: are other offensive pieces, and like I said, lamar Or,
Speaker 1: they've been great for a long time, specifically the quarterback,
Speaker 1: but they've never had anything quite like this. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: their defense isn't as good, it's not as dominant as
Speaker 1: last year. Clearly from a pass defense standpoint, a lot
Speaker 1: of question marks, but they can slow down the game.
Speaker 1: In theory, the problem is Dereck Henry keeps busting off
Speaker 1: touchdown runs. He looks as fresh as he's ever looked
Speaker 1: in his career. And he was already a Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer before this season. I added it up today. Between
Speaker 1: high school, college and the NFL, he had over forty
Speaker 1: one hundred career carries coming into this game. As someone
Speaker 1: pointed out on social media, he was in the same
Speaker 1: draft class as Ezekiel Elliott. And he looks like twenty
Speaker 1: four years old, just about to get his first contract.
Speaker 1: How can he look this good? And the thing with
Speaker 1: running backs is the last attribute you actually need, like
Speaker 1: it's not a prerequisite to be a great player, is
Speaker 1: high end breakaway speed. A lot of great running backs
Speaker 1: have not been home run hitters. It's actually a pretty
Speaker 1: rare trait. I would say the best guy of my life,
Speaker 1: you know, my adult life the last twenty plus years
Speaker 1: in terms of open field high end speed was Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 1: If he got in the open field, no one could
Speaker 1: catch him. That's Derrick Henry, Like he gets a crease,
Speaker 1: he's gone. And you would have thought, because like most
Speaker 1: running backs with that many carries that much mileage, they
Speaker 1: just wouldn't be as good. And to me, someone has
Speaker 1: just been watching football for a long time. He looks
Speaker 1: as good as ever and you add that piece, and
Speaker 1: we've talked about it before, it's easily one of the
Speaker 1: best signings, especially when you factor in how much he
Speaker 1: costs of this NFL season. Honestly, there might not really
Speaker 1: be a close second. And he's now playing on what
Speaker 1: feels like the best offense right there with Detroit in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Detroit just lost their home run hinter Jameson Williams,
Speaker 1: suspend him for a couple of weeks. But if they
Speaker 1: get this Derrick Henry in the playoffs. And this is
Speaker 1: someone who said I don't feel comfortable betting on this
Speaker 1: team against the Chiefs ever again, and then you watch
Speaker 1: them the last couple weeks, you're like, eh, I kind
Speaker 1: of change my tune. You're like, now it's gonna be
Speaker 1: harder for them to get home field advantage because the
Speaker 1: Chiefs already have a couple game lead because they have
Speaker 1: not lost obviously, And the craziest game so far of
Speaker 1: the NFL season looking back is the Raiders upsetting the
Speaker 1: Ravens down ten points in Baltimore. That's just one of
Speaker 1: those we're gonna look back is like, how did that happen?
Speaker 1: Raiders actually did it last year? Remember on Christmas to
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. But I think he adds an element that
Speaker 1: they haven't quite had. They've had a good run game,
Speaker 1: but they have a guy that unlike last year, it's like,
Speaker 1: let's get away from the run games. Like, guys, you're
Speaker 1: down a touchdown, Let's take a deep breath. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: don't have forty points on the field or on the scoreboard,
Speaker 1: just relax, play your game. I actually think it's going
Speaker 1: to be easier for them in theory. Again, they have
Speaker 1: to do it to just hand that guy the ball
Speaker 1: because you're watching him in these games, they feel much
Speaker 1: more inclined. All else fails handed to twenty two, handed
Speaker 1: to twenty two, and then Lamar throughout the game can
Speaker 1: just do his magical stuff, which is just it's insane
Speaker 1: how good the guy is. People think I'm like a
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson hater. I mean, he's remarkable, he really is.
Speaker 1: But I think Derick Henry has a chance to take
Speaker 1: this team to the next level because, let's face it,
Speaker 1: you know their defense is more than good enough. You
Speaker 1: don't have to have the number one defense in the league.
Speaker 1: To win the Super Bowl. But as we know, you
Speaker 1: have to have a good defense. They have a good defense,
Speaker 1: and they have a defensive culture. They'll be fine. They'll
Speaker 1: have to shore up a little bit of the pass game.
Speaker 1: But again, if they're playing the Chiefs, the Chiefs aren't
Speaker 1: exactly thrown up thirty five points, so they have to
Speaker 1: win a game in the teams. It's easier to do
Speaker 1: that with Derek Henry and I've really just been blown
Speaker 1: away the Ravens, who at zero to two have come
Speaker 1: storming back and look fantastic. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I
Speaker 1: mean that game started, You're just like God, Baker's playing
Speaker 1: out of his mind, like, are are they gonna roll
Speaker 1: the Ravens. They're up ten to nothing, It honestly easily
Speaker 1: could have been fourteen nothing. Then it looked like Baker
Speaker 1: hit Mike Evans for a touchdown that I think would
Speaker 1: have put him up what twenty one to seven, and
Speaker 1: Mike Evans got hurt, and then the game spiraled and
Speaker 1: Baker threw a red zone pick. He threw another bad pick,
Speaker 1: and then the floodgates opened and the Ravens ran away
Speaker 1: with the game. But obviously they lost Mike Evans, which
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say is going to miss
Speaker 1: some time. And then at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: which I'm not gonna be critical of having Godwin and
Speaker 1: Baker in that spot, even though the Ravens had already
Speaker 1: pulled Lamar and Henry you know, in their starting skill
Speaker 1: guys by that point. But his ankle went the opposite
Speaker 1: way and he got carted off in an air cast,
Speaker 1: and they didn't show the replay. Clearly it was awful,
Speaker 1: and you knew right away when Baker was on kind
Speaker 1: of like you know, two legs, kneeling down and looking
Speaker 1: the other way and slamming his helmet that it was
Speaker 1: really really awful. And this is I've known. I worked
Speaker 1: with Todd Bowles in Philadelphia. He's a super super high
Speaker 1: level guy. He's actually a very intense, calm guy. He's
Speaker 1: one of those rare defensive guys. He's not like a
Speaker 1: huge yeller and a screamer. There's a lot of pressure
Speaker 1: on him right now, because that's you lose games. You
Speaker 1: play the Ravens, you play the Chiefs, you played a lot,
Speaker 1: You've played great teams, even at home Monday football. Sometimes
Speaker 1: some weird happens. You lose, no big deal, even getting
Speaker 1: your ass kick just like, Okay, we took it on
Speaker 1: the chin, Take a deep breath. That's not just a loss.
Speaker 1: That's losing Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, which was one
Speaker 1: of the reasons that Baker Mayfield, I mean, one of
Speaker 1: the main reasons led the league in touchdown passes and
Speaker 1: had one of the most dynamic offen in the league.
Speaker 1: So I think it's fair to assume that Chris Godwin
Speaker 1: is gone for the season and Mike Evans, who they
Speaker 1: mentioned and I has not missed many games in his career, like,
Speaker 1: is going to miss some time. I don't really know
Speaker 1: how you overcome that. Their defense isn't as good as
Speaker 1: it has been in years past. They've been very dependent
Speaker 1: on the offense, and now I remove your best two
Speaker 1: offensive weapons on the outside by a mile, I mean
Speaker 1: an elite Hall of Fame outside wide receiver in just
Speaker 1: this dynamic verstual piece in god I mean, those guys
Speaker 1: are championship winning players and their next three games are
Speaker 1: on a short week playing Atlanta, who I don't think
Speaker 1: is that good. But you remove Evans and Godwin, like
Speaker 1: that's tough, then you have to go to Kansas City,
Speaker 1: and then you know, who knows who's going to be
Speaker 1: playing for the forty nine ers by then, But it's
Speaker 1: still not going to be an easy matchup the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers. So this was when I before the game started,
Speaker 1: even if you lost, you went listen, if you can
Speaker 1: just somehow go two and two in this spot, help
Speaker 1: beat the Falcons and go one and three, you're in
Speaker 1: good shape. Now it feels like they're not a lock
Speaker 1: to win any of these games without those two players.
Speaker 1: That is one of those losses that is just emotionally gutting.
Speaker 1: You know. We saw it with the Lions last week.
Speaker 1: Losing Hutchinson was really really tough, and I think you
Speaker 1: saw early in that game in Minnesota they not that
Speaker 1: they were shell shocked, but it was like it was
Speaker 1: it felt like it was still hovering over them. Then
Speaker 1: they got it together, they got their bearings. You can't
Speaker 1: lose two of those guys, you know. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you could shake that. I was a big believer
Speaker 1: in the Bucks. After the first you know, four or
Speaker 1: five games of this season, I thought like, this team's
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs. Now I go, there's just Todd
Speaker 1: Bowle is gonna have to be a magician here, somehow
Speaker 1: rallied the troops, somehow get his defense to play better.
Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna have to rely on Baker to
Speaker 1: be perfect. Cannot be turning the ball over. He's thrown
Speaker 1: a lot of touchdowns, but the last couple of games
Speaker 1: throws some picks. Though two weeks ago some of those were,
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of freaky picks. Balls tipped. Tonight,
Speaker 1: the two were pretty bad. That's hard. That's really really
Speaker 1: difficult because when fully healthy you went. Their offense is
Speaker 1: a lot like Baltimore. Right. Obviously Lamar's better than Baker,
Speaker 1: but two elite wide receivers, a really good tight end.
Speaker 1: Bucky Irving looks fantastic. The offensive coordinator Liam Cohen, who
Speaker 1: had been in with the Rams and McVeigh and coach
Speaker 1: at Kentucky, was doing a really, really good job. It's like,
Speaker 1: this team's gonna win ten games, and now it's one
Speaker 1: of those when you show up to the office tomorrow,
Speaker 1: you're just it's gonna be hard to hold your head
Speaker 1: up high, not just because you lost, but because you
Speaker 1: look around. It's like, is Mike Evan's gonna have to
Speaker 1: go on injury reserve. We know Godwin is I mean,
Speaker 1: if you had the list, obviously the quarterbacks number one,
Speaker 1: if you were doing the top five guys that you
Speaker 1: would cannot afford to lose, you know, Mike probably be one,
Speaker 1: and Godwin would definitely be in the top three or four.
Speaker 1: So huge game for Baltimore dominated Henry MVP form, same
Speaker 1: with Lamar and the bucks Man. What a what a
Speaker 1: shitty night to be a Tampa fan. You know, you
Speaker 1: try to sometimes you already get a take ready. You're like,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to fire this one out, and it
Speaker 1: was gonna be you know, last year, it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: The Chargers went five and twelve. They went five and twelve.
Speaker 1: Now they drafted five, so clearly they had a really
Speaker 1: bad record. But when you say it out loud, you're like,
Speaker 1: I knew they were bad, but five wins and you
Speaker 1: realized they didn't really win any games at the end
Speaker 1: once they shit can Brandon stay? But they were really
Speaker 1: really bad, and I think they're gonna I mean, like
Speaker 1: Hardbaugh's gonna win this game. He's already gonna have four wins,
Speaker 1: and then a penalty happens and let's face it, they're
Speaker 1: down two points at the one yard line with like
Speaker 1: ten minutes to go, and they have an eight minute
Speaker 1: drive that ultimately led to a third I think it
Speaker 1: was third and six, third and five. Maybe that justin
Speaker 1: Herbert took a shot hard boss freaking out thinking should
Speaker 1: be past interference. I don't love shot plays or even
Speaker 1: options on that. Like, run some quick outs, run some
Speaker 1: quick crossing routes, get the ball to Maconkey on a rollout.
Speaker 1: Just let's just get a first down, keep the drive
Speaker 1: moving the margin. Fererra on that play, even if the
Speaker 1: wide receiver you know, doesn't get hit off his route
Speaker 1: or held or whatever, I had no problem with him
Speaker 1: not calling the penalty on that. I don't like that
Speaker 1: decision by Herbert, that play call, even as an option,
Speaker 1: run something that's gonna give me a chance at a
Speaker 1: first down and kind of end the game. But they didn't.
Speaker 1: And then they gave it back to Kyler Murray, who
Speaker 1: the first two plays of the drive, you're like, didn't
Speaker 1: even sniff a completion, and then a flag came out
Speaker 1: about five minutes late. And we went on this rant
Speaker 1: last week on Monday Night Football, when the referees were
Speaker 1: It's one of the worst officiated games you'll ever watch
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Like we're all used to bad calls, right,
Speaker 1: it's I always say it all the time. I understand
Speaker 1: the human element. I just reserve the right to get
Speaker 1: worked up if it's a team I like or I
Speaker 1: got money on the game. It's part of the fun
Speaker 1: of this. But there comes a point where you jump
Speaker 1: the shark of this is beyond egregious. What are we
Speaker 1: doing here? And I say it all the time with
Speaker 1: college when they get aggressive with throwing kids out. Nobody's
Speaker 1: trying to hurt anybody. Nobody is, but it still is
Speaker 1: football and people are going to get tackled and hit hard.
Speaker 1: It's part of the sport. This is a very violent game.
Speaker 1: It's honestly what built up to become such a popular sport.
Speaker 1: And then because of the concussion is because of the lawsuits.
Speaker 1: I get we've had to pivot and change, and I'm
Speaker 1: all for trying to make sure the best quarterbacks stay healthy.
Speaker 1: But on some of these plays down the field, defensive
Speaker 1: backs and linebackers are allowed to hit people, they really
Speaker 1: are and some of these times, just because it looks bad,
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it actually was. And he not only didn't
Speaker 1: connect with his helmet, he barely touched the guy. But
Speaker 1: Jim Harbad freaked out so much on the previous drive
Speaker 1: that he was almost he just kind of gave up,
Speaker 1: put his hands in the air, and it ultimately cost
Speaker 1: him the game. And the one thing is, if you
Speaker 1: are gonna screw up and listen, I don't feel necessarily
Speaker 1: bad for the Chargers, right they how many points they score? Fifteen?
Speaker 1: So anytime that you're in a game and what was
Speaker 1: the final score, yeah, fifteen to seventeen to fifteen. So
Speaker 1: if you're scoring in the mid teens, you allow for
Speaker 1: the option for weird shit to happen if a big
Speaker 1: play breaks, Like you didn't do enough to play winning football.
Speaker 1: And the Chargers are like the poor poor man's version
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs. They want to play with defense, they
Speaker 1: want to slow down the game, and they want to
Speaker 1: try to win like eighteen to ten, like that's where
Speaker 1: they're twenty one to seventeen, Like that's what they're gonna
Speaker 1: be comfortable doing. But when you do that and your
Speaker 1: team is not as good as the Chiefs, your margin
Speaker 1: frere is really small. And the one thing with the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: which are one of the more all over the team
Speaker 1: plays teams in the NFL. They have electric players. I
Speaker 1: mean Kyler's run the night I mean look like the
Speaker 1: short version of Lamar. He is one of the great
Speaker 1: athletes in the sport. So if you screw up, take
Speaker 1: a bad angle, he can take it fifty as he
Speaker 1: did James Connor. Part of it is the team that
Speaker 1: he plays for is not like some huge brand. Even
Speaker 1: the night they played on ESPN Plus. So I can't
Speaker 1: imagine there are some people listening to this that did
Speaker 1: not watch the game. I didn't understand when everyone was
Speaker 1: bitching and moaning about it online. The game's on ESPN Plus.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's just on regular TV for me, And
Speaker 1: then I realized on the local markets they put it on,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the main broadcast channels. It was
Speaker 1: on Fox for me. But I understand anyone pushing back
Speaker 1: ESPN Plus seems a little egregious to me. I mean,
Speaker 1: now I get it, business partner. They're trying to grow that.
Speaker 1: I'm an ESPN Plus guy because I watch a lot
Speaker 1: of golf on that. Any of the UFC guys probably
Speaker 1: have it as well. It serves a purpose in my life.
Speaker 1: But I get not everyone's buying that thing. And if
Speaker 1: you're not a Charger or a Cardinal fan and there's
Speaker 1: another game on, you could easily go, yeah, I'm not,
Speaker 1: I don't care that much. Totally understand, But that was
Speaker 1: a game that came down to a call. Now, the
Speaker 1: Cardinals still might have pulled some plays out of their
Speaker 1: ass because they have Trey McBride stud Harrison. He's going
Speaker 1: to be really damn good and like we said, at
Speaker 1: any moment a lot like you know, kind of the
Speaker 1: poor man's version of Lamar. Kyler can do things that
Speaker 1: are out of this world. And there's not many better
Speaker 1: freelance players in the NFL than Kyler. So as the
Speaker 1: game gets tight, tight game, or you're down too you know,
Speaker 1: fourth downs, like that's where he's one of the scarier players.
Speaker 1: He is a very difficult player if he gets into
Speaker 1: a little bit a rhythm and his team, if his
Speaker 1: defense is playing okay, the just series in series out,
Speaker 1: if the game's close, he's tough to defend. But you
Speaker 1: just can't make that call. It just can't happen. And
Speaker 1: I I was anyone that watched the Texas Georgia game.
Speaker 1: I like Georgia in that game, but I had so
Speaker 1: many parlays tied with the Nebraska covering the spread, which
Speaker 1: obviously didn't do so it didn't cost me any money.
Speaker 1: But I just found myself rooting for Georgia in that game.
Speaker 1: I understand the call that they screwed up on the
Speaker 1: past interference that led to a pick that they said
Speaker 1: was past interference. They had spotted the ball as in
Speaker 1: it was pass interference. They were gonna keep give George
Speaker 1: the ball, and then the entire Texas crowd through beer bottles,
Speaker 1: water bottles and other things on the field, and then
Speaker 1: they just reversed the call, like and everyone was saying, well,
Speaker 1: at least they got the call right. Well, that literally
Speaker 1: never happens. I have never seen that happen. After Like
Speaker 1: it's one thing that bang bang play. It's like, hey,
Speaker 1: we got it wrong, changer right there, okay, but like
Speaker 1: it had been a long time they all agreed call
Speaker 1: spot the ball even if it's the wrong call, Like
Speaker 1: this is one that like, come on, guys, can't everyone
Speaker 1: kind of look around? Can we get this right? That play?
Speaker 1: Can you guys see the review that just can't happen.
Speaker 1: So I understand I'm probably recording this right as the
Speaker 1: post game is going on that if I'm Hardball, I'm incensed.
Speaker 1: And if I'm the Cardinals, I'm three and four and
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that I'm in second place because i
Speaker 1: beat the Niners up, so they'd be in third place,
Speaker 1: and I'm right there, so crazy night. Derrick Henry just
Speaker 1: shows why he's a Hall of Famer. Tampa has one
Speaker 1: of the worst injury games you'll ever see, with high
Speaker 1: end players at the same position going down in the
Speaker 1: same game. The Chargers play their style of football, have
Speaker 1: a lead with under two minutes and kind of gets
Speaker 1: screwed by the referees, and then the Cardinals take advantage
Speaker 1: of that because they do have really, really good offensive players.
Speaker 1: They really do. And it's weird, like, would you feel
Speaker 1: great if Kyler is your quarterback? No? Like, are you
Speaker 1: confident that he's a true franchise guy? Like every year
Speaker 1: he's gonna give me an opportunity to be a consistent player,
Speaker 1: to be in the playoffs? You don't. But then at
Speaker 1: the same time you watch individual games and you go,
Speaker 1: he can do more things than some of those guys.
Speaker 1: In that bucket. On an individual game basis, he's just
Speaker 1: really a roller coaster. You don't really know what you're
Speaker 1: gonna get weak to week, like part of the reason,
Speaker 1: like Jared Goff's better now, but like same with Dak,
Speaker 1: But like Dak Cousins, Goff kind of that crew of
Speaker 1: guys for a long period of time. He was like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's somewhere between nine to thirteen range you
Speaker 1: can win with, but you kind of know what you're getting.
Speaker 1: And they've all kind of improved over the course of
Speaker 1: their career, especially I mean Jared Goff's playing at an
Speaker 1: MVP level, Kirk Cousins actually playing pretty well too, beside
Speaker 1: from last week, which wasn't all his fault as defense
Speaker 1: was terrible. But they've just and Dak's had three really
Speaker 1: really good seasons in a row. But like Kyler could
Speaker 1: have games where.
Speaker 3: It's like those guys can't do that, they can't make
Speaker 3: that throw, they can't throw it that far, they can't
Speaker 3: run that fast, and then you watch other games you're like,
Speaker 3: is this the worst team I've ever seen?
Speaker 1: What's going on? Just a very very There's just not
Speaker 1: really a team like them in the NFL, and I
Speaker 1: think a big reason for that is Kyler, who is
Speaker 1: when they're playing well, is just an auto watch. An
Speaker 1: auto watch, And if I was a video game player,
Speaker 1: he would be very very fun to play with. Uh So, yeah,
Speaker 1: fun little Monday night. And I think we skipped we
Speaker 1: skipped this last week. Maybe I did it last week,
Speaker 1: but a little penthouse outhouse. I last week I was
Speaker 1: in Nashville, and you know, I'm a Marriott guy. I'm simple,
Speaker 1: stay at just a lot of normal marriyouts every once
Speaker 1: in a while if I'm feeling frisky, stayed at JW
Speaker 1: and I'm not opposed to staying at a spring Hill Swee.
Speaker 1: So your boy's been there. But we're getting married at
Speaker 1: a little place called the Four Seasons. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what they'll give They're giving us a big
Speaker 1: discount and stay there for a couple of days. First
Speaker 1: time I'd ever stayed there. I'm like, I'm a normal
Speaker 1: Four Seasons guy. And even with the discount, shit ain't cheap.
Speaker 1: And at the Four Seasons in Nashville, they also have
Speaker 1: like living quarters. So they have a hotel which is
Speaker 1: really big, and then on top of one side of
Speaker 1: the hotel, they have like condos in suits, and on
Speaker 1: the top they originally built them like four years ago,
Speaker 1: and they were gonna sell them all. You know, some
Speaker 1: you could get for like a one bedroom or two bedrooms,
Speaker 1: you know, a million bucks or a couple of million bucks.
Speaker 1: And on the top was the Penhouse suite and it
Speaker 1: originally listed for thirty six million dollars. I guess it
Speaker 1: was enormous and obviously didn't sell. So what they did
Speaker 1: is they split it in two and they ended up
Speaker 1: selling them both off. They're still I think, I mean
Speaker 1: thousands of square feet like enormous Penhouse suites. And one
Speaker 1: of the guys that bought one of them, like the
Speaker 1: person wouldn't really give me all the details, but one
Speaker 1: of the persons they said, because they put it out
Speaker 1: there publicly, is the dude that owns Raising Canes, Todd Graves.
Speaker 1: I think his name is LSU guy, you know, hangs
Speaker 1: out with a bunch of the LSU guys. And they
Speaker 1: just put one in downtown Nashville that is crushing, and
Speaker 1: that's why I think he wanted to purchase them. Obviously
Speaker 1: Raised Canes do him pretty well. But I was thinking about, like,
Speaker 1: and I've been saying this for while there is no
Speaker 1: doubt about it in any building, the nicest penhouse suite.
Speaker 1: I don't care how ugly their games are. They just
Speaker 1: figure it out. They just figured it out. And I
Speaker 1: was texting with a buddy on the Chiefs because I
Speaker 1: was like, did you guys go back to Kansas City.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, we went to Vegas because they're playing
Speaker 1: the Raiders this week. We're staying there. And we were
Speaker 1: texting about Karlovskis and Trent McDuffie. And they drafted those
Speaker 1: guys right the year that they traded Tyreek Hill. So
Speaker 1: in the year they traded Tyreek Kill, they had two
Speaker 1: first round picks and they took Trent McDuffie and Karlossis.
Speaker 1: Obviously ninety five is their most talented and best defensive player,
Speaker 1: but no one plays as hard. And I mean those
Speaker 1: are their next two players, Karlovski's and McDuffie, in whatever
Speaker 1: order you want. Those guys through three seasons, they have
Speaker 1: two Super Bowl rings, your one and your two, and
Speaker 1: in your three, they're yet to lose a game. Like
Speaker 1: think about their experience in the NFL compared to other
Speaker 1: people in their like, guys that were just drafted to
Speaker 1: the Panthers, you know, guys that were just drafted to
Speaker 1: like the Giants. These guys are like, yeah, just win rings.
Speaker 1: You just never lose. What's the NFL experience like for you? Like,
Speaker 1: what an incredible place to play football right now? As
Speaker 1: the Kansasy Chiefs. Honestly, if the penhouse still existed up there,
Speaker 1: thirty six million, that'd be theirs. I think the Ravens
Speaker 1: are right there as well. I mean they're penouse. Sweet.
Speaker 1: I feel more confident these last couple, like last three weeks,
Speaker 1: watching Derrick Henry really get going. I'm like, wait, they
Speaker 1: have a guy who just a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: carried a franchise not only to the playoffs, but like
Speaker 1: winning playoff games. And he looks exactly the same. Obviously
Speaker 1: he's three or four years older, but he's playing the
Speaker 1: exact same. And you put him on that team with
Speaker 1: those offensive weapons, with that quarterback and their defensive culture.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm starting to like him as much
Speaker 1: as I did last year because of that guy. That's
Speaker 1: just an element like the JK. Dobbins, the Gus Edwards,
Speaker 1: all the type guys they've had good players and in
Speaker 1: their scheme it's worked, but in the playoffs it's slowed
Speaker 1: down a little bit. I've seen that guy in the
Speaker 1: playoffs run for two bills, carry his team do playoff
Speaker 1: victories on the road and to the AFC Championship game.
Speaker 1: So I think the Ravens are right there with Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Detroit's interesting, right, they got to have a penthouse sweet too,
Speaker 1: But you lose Hutchinson and then today you get Jamison
Speaker 1: Williams suspended. Now it's hard to watch them and go.
Speaker 1: They're gritty, they're tough, their coach has proven to be really,
Speaker 1: really good. Their quarterback is playing at an insanely high level. Offensively,
Speaker 1: when Williams is on the field, they literally have it all,
Speaker 1: even removing him for a couple games. Not the end
Speaker 1: of the world, but like you're starting to see a
Speaker 1: little like they're getting thrown a little adversity here. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just saw schefferd we I don't exactly
Speaker 1: know what's two games, Like, is that some drugs or
Speaker 1: is that what he's doing PDEs He weighs like one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five pounds. But I think those are
Speaker 1: clearly the three best teams in the league, and then
Speaker 1: I think you'd have to go down a couple floors
Speaker 1: and there's just a large group of everyone else. Of
Speaker 1: all the other good teams, I would put the Packers,
Speaker 1: I would put Minnesota. I think Minnesota actually showed pretty
Speaker 1: well even in the loss. Like I told Colin the
Speaker 1: other day, I think the Packers are good, and I
Speaker 1: think if they can just corall Jordan a little bit
Speaker 1: because his freelance throwing balls all over the map. Now
Speaker 1: he's thrown enough touchdowns to make up for it. But
Speaker 1: that can cost you, as it did last year in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But I'm still a believer, and there are
Speaker 1: a couple more weeks of playing good football. Way for
Speaker 1: me putting them in that group. I think the Bills,
Speaker 1: just when the dust settles, are gonna have twelve or
Speaker 1: thirteen wins, and they're at the point now where they're
Speaker 1: going to cruise to their division. Right Miami stinks. I
Speaker 1: mean they have one win and now two is coming
Speaker 1: Back's just keep our fingers crossed he doesn't get KO'ed.
Speaker 1: The Patriots are worse or equally as bad, and they're
Speaker 1: actually worse if Tua plays, assuming the Tua can stay
Speaker 1: on the field, and the Jets are two and five,
Speaker 1: so I mean we're a couple of weeks away from
Speaker 1: the Bills having like a five game lead in that division.
Speaker 1: And Pittsburgh's interesting, Like I saw a lot of people
Speaker 1: commenting on stuff like Middleguff Russell Wilson, like, yeah, he
Speaker 1: threw some lollipop passes. He's maybe better than justin fields
Speaker 1: as a passer, bars not very high. But did we
Speaker 1: take away from that game that he's like a good
Speaker 1: player because I didn't necessarily. I also didn't take away
Speaker 1: like I'm judging these teams on like how can you
Speaker 1: play in the playoffs? Like could Kevin O'Connell and Brian
Speaker 1: Flores if Sam Darnold plays like he did the other
Speaker 1: day win playoff games against the other good teams? I
Speaker 1: believe they can't. Can the Packers and the Lions I'll
Speaker 1: beat each other one? Could the Ravens beat these other teams?
Speaker 1: I do think they could do that. We know the
Speaker 1: Chiefs scant. I do believe the Bills, if healthy, which
Speaker 1: has been a problem for them, can win these playoff games.
Speaker 1: We've seen it happen, Like is Russell Wilson beating these teams.
Speaker 1: Tomlin's awesome. He deserves a lot of credit for that move,
Speaker 1: and when asked about it all after the Sunday night
Speaker 1: football game, he said, that's why I'm so highly compensated.
Speaker 1: Thanks peace, and he walked out great line. But like,
Speaker 1: they just include Pickens more in the game because he's
Speaker 1: just throwing it up. And if their running backs are
Speaker 1: healthy and their offensive line is healthy, they're gonna run
Speaker 1: the ball and play defense. But I don't view Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson's like the equals all these other Cats Mahomes. I
Speaker 1: don't care how shitty Mahome stats are Lamar and Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: Like there's a pretty wide gap there. And obviously the
Speaker 1: Texans have a bunch of injuries, but they get Nico back.
Speaker 1: Like I would take my chances with CJ. Stroud in
Speaker 1: a game, Like who are you picking c J. Stroud
Speaker 1: of Russell Wilson and all these teams are? You know,
Speaker 1: the Texas would be a home field because they're gonna
Speaker 1: win the division, Like Steelers aren't winning that division. Steelers,
Speaker 1: like we have the same record. Yeah, I know, we'll
Speaker 1: see how it plays out. And I'm not a Steeler
Speaker 1: hater like I have nothing but admiration for their culture
Speaker 1: and everything. But it does get back to upgrade over
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, right, the Kenny Picketts, the
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolphs. I'm not miss Trubisky, but it's not like
Speaker 1: you feel great about Russell Wilson playing these other like
Speaker 1: this crew of all time great quarterbacks, like these guys
Speaker 1: are good. Mahomes obviously is already a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: Lamar is a Hall of Famer. Josh Allen is going
Speaker 1: to be a Hall of Famer. Now Russell I think
Speaker 1: I have no problem if he gets in, but that's
Speaker 1: because of work he did five years and previous, not
Speaker 1: the guy that we've seen recently. And uh, the outhouse
Speaker 1: is pretty ugly. I would compare the outhouse when whenever
Speaker 1: I go back to California and I land in Sacramento.
Speaker 1: I used to land in Oakland when I lived there,
Speaker 1: and you'd go through a bunch of homeless encampments and
Speaker 1: these aren't just like a tent. This is like a
Speaker 1: tent for blocks, just blocks. It's like, God, some of
Speaker 1: these actually don't look that bad. I mean they've done
Speaker 1: a lot of work. I mean they spend a lot
Speaker 1: of time building these things up. That to me is
Speaker 1: some of the bottom level of the NFL. We always
Speaker 1: have bad teams in the NFL, and someone hit me
Speaker 1: up on the mail bag, like, are some of these
Speaker 1: teams some of the play and coaching worse than normal?
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, possibly possibly. Dave Canalis and the Carolina Panthers,
Speaker 1: girod Mao and the New England Patriots. The Las Vegas
Speaker 1: Raiders aren't leaking oil like they've broken down on the
Speaker 1: side of the road. Miami is a little weird because
Speaker 1: I don't think they're very good if Tua had stayed healthy,
Speaker 1: but they would not be a two win team. I
Speaker 1: thought they were more likely to be like that six
Speaker 1: or seven, like under it, you know, disappoint just because
Speaker 1: I didn't think their defense was good, their offensive line
Speaker 1: was bad, probably lose some close games, be a big
Speaker 1: swing from like ten to you know, seven, but still
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season they would be more
Speaker 1: than serviceable on a weekly basis. So it's hard. If
Speaker 1: Tua is coming back and he can play in games,
Speaker 1: they are going to be on a different level than
Speaker 1: these other teams. Like if Tua was healthy and he
Speaker 1: just played against Indy. Indy loses that game, they don't win.
Speaker 1: Every Colts fan would agree with me. The way Anthony
Speaker 1: Richardson was playing the other team, that is really really
Speaker 1: difficult to watch, and it's just like, you know, I
Speaker 1: appreciate this guy changing his health. He looks fantastic relative
Speaker 1: to what he looked like last couple years. Brian day Ball,
Speaker 1: I actually think for the most part removing the game
Speaker 1: on against the Eagles where his offense didn't have a
Speaker 1: chance because they couldn't block a soul because their offensive
Speaker 1: linemen were hurt, He's done a pretty good job calling plays.
Speaker 1: I've actually been impressed with Brian Daball. Their defense for
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks was playing their ass off. But
Speaker 1: that team's about the spiral, it really is. You lose
Speaker 1: your left tackle, you know, you can bench Daniel Jones,
Speaker 1: who's been atrocious. What was the stat yesterday that Saquon
Speaker 1: Barkley has more touchdowns that met like this season than
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I think I saw a quote today from
Speaker 1: Brian day Ball that Malik Neighbors was open all game long.
Speaker 1: Maybe Neighbors might have said made a comment or something
Speaker 1: after the game and he's like let's I don't mind
Speaker 1: him being mad. He was opened and their quarterback play
Speaker 1: is really atrocious. And when your team is that bad
Speaker 1: on offense, I mean that putrid, even if your defense
Speaker 1: is playing their balls off. And I think Brian Burns
Speaker 1: has played really, really hard. We know Dexter Lawrence is
Speaker 1: really like their defense has tried you. Eventually, just you
Speaker 1: get worn out. You kind of give up, not necessarily
Speaker 1: like with effort, but just because like, what's this all?
Speaker 1: What's the point of this? We've all done a job,
Speaker 1: whether it be a company, whether it be when we're young,
Speaker 1: for like our dad forces us to do something. You're like,
Speaker 1: this is pointless. Why am I doing this? You get screamed,
Speaker 1: keep doing it. It's like okay, but you're making no progress.
Speaker 1: And that's what happens to bad teams when they have
Speaker 1: a unit that is just not capable of functioning. And
Speaker 1: to me, that's the Giants offense. And they have a
Speaker 1: quarterback problem. Now they have a left tackle problem. They're
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to run the ball. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be really really bad. Now the difference, I would say
Speaker 1: the Giants, you would obviously take day Ball over Canalis
Speaker 1: over Mayo over. You know, the Titans are pretty bad too,
Speaker 1: but same type deal. Quarterback is just a joke. I
Speaker 1: mean a little like the Giants. Their defense for a
Speaker 1: large portion of games this year has played really well
Speaker 1: in their when your quarterback position cannot function, like we're
Speaker 1: not asking for Lamar Jackson is prime or in college
Speaker 1: like Shador Sanders. Right now, we just need functional quarterback
Speaker 1: play just to give us a chance, right and some
Speaker 1: of these teams at the bottom rung just don't have
Speaker 1: guys that just can't play, just can't play now. Mason Rudolph,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, is an upgrade over Will Levis,
Speaker 1: who's injured right now. But the bottom of this league
Speaker 1: where we are going to have a battle, and I
Speaker 1: mean a battle for the services of Shadoor Sanders. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's time for a little mail bag at John middlecoff
Speaker 1: is the Instagram fire in those dms, get your questions
Speaker 1: answered on the show. Right before I was gonna record
Speaker 1: rap sheet, I saw on Instagram that Brandon i U
Speaker 1: has torn his ACL his MCL and there is potentially
Speaker 1: more damage. I really don't think there's any way to
Speaker 1: sugarcoat this. It's a disaster. They just gave Brandon Ayuk
Speaker 1: I think seventy five million dollars. Obviously they invested him
Speaker 1: to be their number one wide receiver of the future
Speaker 1: and to have a very very bad knee injury. It's
Speaker 1: one thing when you just tear your ACL, but ACL
Speaker 1: MCL and more damage. Devastating for him, devastating for the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, just devastating. This season has been, let's
Speaker 1: face it, kind of a disaster. There have been games
Speaker 1: they should have won but they lost. And at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, there's a bottom line business. You
Speaker 1: win or you lose. It feels like right now the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. I remember when in like twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: I finally bought a piece of property, bought a condo,
Speaker 1: and two months later I lost my job and I
Speaker 1: thought to myself, I'm in a lot of trouble here.
Speaker 1: I could barely qualify for the loan at the time,
Speaker 1: and I remember putting on a bold face whenever I
Speaker 1: was like around my parents or anyone I knew, But
Speaker 1: those first six months, I was pretty nervous. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna am I gonna be one of those statistics that's
Speaker 1: like got his He had to give the condo back
Speaker 1: to the bank. Didn't even make it a year. But
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a grinder, not worried, not not afraid to, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, dig myself out of the mud. I bet
Speaker 1: a lot of people have been there in life. It
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a house or a condo. It
Speaker 1: could be a business. It could be a car. You
Speaker 1: buy something, you invest in something, and then it immediately
Speaker 1: goes wrong. And for a lot of us, if you
Speaker 1: put you know, a large portion of the cash available
Speaker 1: that you have into that thing and things get bad
Speaker 1: in your professional life, it is scary and it cannot
Speaker 1: be good. I mean it can be really really bad, right,
Speaker 1: You can go under, you can lose those things. So
Speaker 1: it can ruin people's lives. And these injuries and these
Speaker 1: contracts are ruining the forty nine ers because these guys
Speaker 1: are injured. Brandon Ayuk is now gone, Christian McCaffrey is
Speaker 1: who the hell knows when this guy's coming back. Drake
Speaker 1: greenlot towards Achilles in the Super Bowl, Whu Funga is
Speaker 1: a really good player, is just injured now towards acl
Speaker 1: and now he's got multiple other injuries. I mean, hell,
Speaker 1: their rookie wide receiver was literally shot, and I think
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan or John Lynch said. The doctor looked at
Speaker 1: him and said ninety eight out of one hundred people,
Speaker 1: which is like common sense. If you just go, yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy got shot in the chest, he'd be like dead.
Speaker 1: It's the first thing you would think of. He said,
Speaker 1: ninety eight out one hundred. Should I go ninety nine
Speaker 1: out of one hundred? That's what the doctor says. When
Speaker 1: we get chess wounds, it's usually death. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's just it's crazy. Feels like the season from Hell
Speaker 1: right now that there's really no I don't want to
Speaker 1: say the IUK injury was icing on the cake, but
Speaker 1: it is the avalanche growing steam, and a lot of
Speaker 1: people have been there financially. When you make some when
Speaker 1: you make some moves and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I don't have that job anymore, or the company that
Speaker 1: I started is about to go under. We're in trouble.
Speaker 1: That's how the forty nine ers have to feel right now.
Speaker 1: Not that their business is gonna go under or the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers are gonna go belly up, but this
Speaker 1: season might not be their time. It was hard to
Speaker 1: watch that game yesterday against Kansas City, who just owns
Speaker 1: the Niners. I mean, you talk about ownage. My guy,
Speaker 1: Mike Kruco, the Giants San Francisco Giants play by play
Speaker 1: announcer has a term when a pitcher he's a former
Speaker 1: pitcher cal Polygrad, dominates a hitter. He calls it ownage.
Speaker 1: And that is what Andy Reid, Patrick Mahone and Steve
Speaker 1: Spagnolas specifically have over the forty nine ers own Nige
Speaker 1: and yesterday was carnage. It really was. And I get
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm sure we'll read something like why is
Speaker 1: everyone slurping Mahomes? Look at Mahomes is so overrated. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I've been watching football for thirty plus years,
Speaker 1: and yeah, his stats aren't great. He's not gonna win
Speaker 1: the MVP this year. But every time against the forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers when he had to make a play, he
Speaker 1: made a spectacular play. So you can box score scout
Speaker 1: all you want. I know, when the chips are on
Speaker 1: the table and he's got to make something happen in
Speaker 1: a random game against the forty nine Ers or the
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game on the road against the Baltimore Ravens,
Speaker 1: the greatest defense since like the lob Seattle Seahawks. That
Speaker 1: fucker's gonna do it, so like we can nitpick him.
Speaker 1: And yeah, stats aren't great. He's throwing some picks, I
Speaker 1: know on third and seven when it's fifteen to twelve
Speaker 1: and I need to, you know, separate and score a
Speaker 1: touchdown not a field goal, to give my team, you know,
Speaker 1: some separation in the game. He's gonna do it because
Speaker 1: he always does it. And he did it again, you know,
Speaker 1: on Sunday against the forty nine ers as they were
Speaker 1: completely imploding. And I do think, and I said this
Speaker 1: to Colin, Kyle needs to take some notes from Andy Reid,
Speaker 1: who has just adapted throughout his career. You know, you
Speaker 1: got to be a chameleon. You can't just be a
Speaker 1: one trick pony. And his offense when it's humming is
Speaker 1: awesome because he's running the ball. In his entire pass
Speaker 1: game is off the run. But when Jay Gruden came on,
Speaker 1: for those of you that listened to it, what did
Speaker 1: he say. And it's not like Jay Gruden has a
Speaker 1: bone to pick. He thinks Kyle's run schemes elite. Hell,
Speaker 1: he ran it, but the dropback passing game is so
Speaker 1: connected that if it's not working, it doesn't really work.
Speaker 1: And obviously perty played poorly. I mean, that was a
Speaker 1: pretty embarrassing performance. Given the opponent, and given you know
Speaker 1: how big the game was, you could have those stinkers.
Speaker 1: It'd be nicer to have it against a crappy team
Speaker 1: where you could still pull it out. You have a
Speaker 1: stinker against Kansas City. I don't care. If Patrick mahomes
Speaker 1: for has eight picks, you're probably not winning the game.
Speaker 1: And I also put the there was a moment in
Speaker 1: the game where there was his through three interceptions. The
Speaker 1: second interception was to a guy named Ronnie Bell, who
Speaker 1: was in the game because Juwan Jennings injured. IUK obviously
Speaker 1: had ripped his knee apart and debo, you know. But
Speaker 1: the second pick came on a bad route, clearly by
Speaker 1: the wide receiver. And like I put that interception squarely
Speaker 1: on Kyle Shanahan because earlier this game, the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers lost the game when they played Ronnie Bell, and
Speaker 1: he had two of the worst drops you will ever
Speaker 1: see in the NFL. This isn't high school football, this
Speaker 1: isn't college football. This is the pros and when you're
Speaker 1: like the fifth wide receiver. And I would say this
Speaker 1: for any team, good or bad, and you get the
Speaker 1: opportunity to play on offense or defense, and you've been
Speaker 1: on the team for a while, like rookies, I give
Speaker 1: you a little more. I give you more grace when
Speaker 1: you've been in league for a couple of years, two
Speaker 1: or three, you know the offense, and then you are
Speaker 1: giving your shot and it goes really, really poorly. I
Speaker 1: have to think about cutting you and putting you on
Speaker 1: the practice squad. You now are a liability to me
Speaker 1: on game day, and most good teams will tell you
Speaker 1: got to be constantly churning the bottom of your roster
Speaker 1: right the core of your team. Fortyish guys aren't really
Speaker 1: moving and shaking unless there's an injury. They're on the roster.
Speaker 1: They're kind of the equivalent on scholarship. But to me,
Speaker 1: those last couple guys on each position group, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe your last dB, your last wide receiver, your last
Speaker 1: running back. If they do get the opportunities in games
Speaker 1: and they have been on the practice squad, they have
Speaker 1: been on the big roster for a couple of years,
Speaker 1: and they finally get thrown into the fire and they
Speaker 1: have no shot to contribute. You got to remove them.
Speaker 1: This is a business and you've got to churn that
Speaker 1: spot and the forty nine ers. And Kyle Shanahan ultimately
Speaker 1: has in his contract he's the boss. Like ultimately, John
Speaker 1: Lynch does not have decision making power. If he wants
Speaker 1: to cut or trade a player, he has to get
Speaker 1: the oka from Kyle. And wide receiver is Kyle's baby.
Speaker 1: He's a former college wide receiver. And they put Ronnie
Speaker 1: Bell back out there, and clearly by all accounts from
Speaker 1: the football guys. I'm a football guy, but I'm talking
Speaker 1: like quarterbacks and you know people that truly know the
Speaker 1: where you got to break off the out route on
Speaker 1: that specific play, it's on the wide receiver. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: that wide receiver never should have been out there. Because
Speaker 1: you can steal a million guys on practice squad, you
Speaker 1: can elevate someone from your own practice squad that is
Speaker 1: on management. Obviously, perty played like shit, that's on party,
Speaker 1: But that specific play I have to put on Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan because that player should not be on the field.
Speaker 1: You're playing a dynasty. You were playing, by far, the
Speaker 1: greatest coach in the NFL. You could argue, by far
Speaker 1: the best defensive coordinator in the NFL. The team that
Speaker 1: constantly beats your ass, a team that's you've played twice
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Hell, just based on statistics, the
Speaker 1: type games. They were tight games and fourth quarter leads.
Speaker 1: You flip a coin, you should have a minimum, have one,
Speaker 1: and they got him both. And you're rolling that guy
Speaker 1: out And I understand he got injuries. He can't be dressed.
Speaker 1: He cannot be dressed in that situation. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the guys they dress, who obviously aren't as
Speaker 1: good as their starters. They still can rely on them,
Speaker 1: definitely on defense, but specifically on offense. It's hard for
Speaker 1: me to call it a full embarrassment. He's had some
Speaker 1: embarrassing moments. I think that the team's let in. Kyle's
Speaker 1: the boss, you know, Kyle's like Andy Belichick. Everything's running
Speaker 1: through him. Arizona and the Rams loss were embarrassing. Yesterday
Speaker 1: was more just like organizational failure. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: Super Bowl hangover karma or whatever they call it. With
Speaker 1: the injuries, with the mysterious sickness, Uh, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, but you still can win Eagles. You know,
Speaker 1: it's funny, and they kicked the Giants ass that that
Speaker 1: was that was just a dominant win. But I did
Speaker 1: see some comments from some of their players and Sirianni
Speaker 1: more of the players than Sirianni, I thought. Sirianni answered, fine,
Speaker 1: you know, taking kind of whearing last week. But some
Speaker 1: of the players taking a victory lap over some like
Speaker 1: former Eagles players that are on post game shows. It's like, guys,
Speaker 1: let's I think we need to pump the brakes a
Speaker 1: little bit, you guys, because one thing I saw Brandon
Speaker 1: Graham or I forget the exact player, said that did
Speaker 1: we not beat him by enough this time? Guys? I
Speaker 1: I don't think people being disappointed from you guys coming
Speaker 1: off of by struggling against the Browns. Is that egregious? Now?
Speaker 1: They clearly looked a lot better against the Giants. I mean,
Speaker 1: they destroyed them. The Giants got serious issues. Belichick, I
Speaker 1: mean just Belichick said something to down McAfee that I
Speaker 1: saw a cliff that Pat post on social media. You know,
Speaker 1: Dable's one of his guys, coach for the Pats, kind
Speaker 1: of dropped one of those. Yeah, you know what. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the owner wanted to keep Saquan. I think Dave Ball
Speaker 1: did too, but the GM wanted to go in different direction.
Speaker 1: One hundred and seventy five yards at home, that's when
Speaker 1: the owner wanted to keep. But he's like, hey, people say,
Speaker 1: I'm metal, I'm not gonna meddle. I'm gonna let you
Speaker 1: do your thing. And then he looks like that. It's tough.
Speaker 1: Giants are bad. He see. Here's a question question for
Speaker 1: the mailback. Do you believe the sports media is told
Speaker 1: to Mahomes and the Chiefs because it's good for the
Speaker 1: league in ratings to have a dynasty. I've watched football
Speaker 1: for twenty plus years, and my eyes tell me he's
Speaker 1: not the best quarterback in the league, and consistently the
Speaker 1: media insists to us that he is. This year, he
Speaker 1: has six touchdowns and eight interceptions and somehow the front
Speaker 1: runner for MVP. Many examples are commetters and media praising him.
Speaker 1: But the game against the Niners, they were going on
Speaker 1: about how he just takes the sun in his eyes
Speaker 1: on the bench, eye test, Alan and Burrow are better quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I mean I watched some of Joe Burrow yesterday. Didn't
Speaker 1: look great. Listen he's not having an MVP seison. His
Speaker 1: statistics are not good. But the point of this whole
Speaker 1: thing is to win. It's the whole point. It's the
Speaker 1: point of the draft, that's the point of free agency,
Speaker 1: that's the point of training camp. So when you get
Speaker 1: seventeen of these things, it's to play winning football. And
Speaker 1: because the Chiefs playing so many of these close games,
Speaker 1: because their personnel because of injuries, is not great on
Speaker 1: offense and there are a defensive lad team, they just
Speaker 1: need him to come through. Now he's turned the ball over.
Speaker 1: I think he'd be the first tell you too many
Speaker 1: times this year, but as someone with money on the
Speaker 1: Niners and was rooting for the forty nine ers, there
Speaker 1: wasn't a moment in that game in the second half
Speaker 1: where I thought he wasn't gonna come through. I've been
Speaker 1: watching sports now for thirty plus years. That includes a malt,
Speaker 1: not just football. I have been watching football professionally now
Speaker 1: for fifteen And here's the other thing. And you see
Speaker 1: this a lot in the NBA, like he's kind of
Speaker 1: at the point. We've seen him do it enough in
Speaker 1: the biggest moments, and those games are worth ten regular
Speaker 1: season games. So he has a shitty month, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I've seen him as a dog on the road in Baltimore,
Speaker 1: play the league MVP and outplay him thoroughly. That's like
Speaker 1: you get equity built up when Tiger Woods has five
Speaker 1: weeks in his prime of not playing. Great people don't
Speaker 1: go overrated overrated because you earn right over time that
Speaker 1: you get the benefit of out Steph Curry's had a
Speaker 1: lot of shitty games in his career, sneaky for one
Speaker 1: of the great players of all time, turns the ball
Speaker 1: over a lot. You can watch him on a random night,
Speaker 1: and I mean especially the Warriors over the last five
Speaker 1: years post Durant, even the title team in twenty two,
Speaker 1: and you know, for a long time I've watched I
Speaker 1: had the last couple of years since I've been in Arizona,
Speaker 1: not as much, but I went for probably seven you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of years before Durant, a couple of years after.
Speaker 1: I didn't miss many Warrior games. And he can have
Speaker 1: these games where it's this ball is flying all over
Speaker 1: the map. He can have weeks, he can have bad
Speaker 1: shooting slumps. Once you earn the equity of like I'm
Speaker 1: a fucking champion, turn the lights on, give me a
Speaker 1: big game, and dare you to bet against me? I
Speaker 1: dare you to do it? Like, I'm sorry, I don't
Speaker 1: put that much stock. It's the thing with Josh Allen
Speaker 1: and Lamar it's like there's a lot of pressure on
Speaker 1: them to win games in January. They're just this. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're just this. Like Jared Goff has been a dramatically
Speaker 1: better playoff performer than Lamar Jackson. Now you could argue
Speaker 1: Jared Goff might win an MVP this year. And if
Speaker 1: the Lions were to win a Super Bowls thinking about
Speaker 1: that today, it'd be like one of the great kind
Speaker 1: of great would be strong one of the crazier careers ever,
Speaker 1: be like Maddy Ice but with a Super Bowl but
Speaker 1: also had to change teams because his coach dot he sucked.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I part of the like, for example,
Speaker 1: what you're saying with the sun in his eyes, I
Speaker 1: think they're just there's nothing much to talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: between plays sometimes and they look over there at that
Speaker 1: side of Levi Stadium, the sun is directly into you.
Speaker 1: And they gave the example of you know, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: don't bring shades. They just have the backup stand in
Speaker 1: front of them for the offensive Lineman and Mahomes just
Speaker 1: sitting there. I thought they were kind of being silly
Speaker 1: and kidding less than being serious. It's not like he's
Speaker 1: Hooperman and taken in the sun. And again, when you
Speaker 1: say media like, if you're in business with the NFL,
Speaker 1: then yeah, I don't know what they tell you, but
Speaker 1: I know there are a lot of independent people people
Speaker 1: that have no association with the NFL. Like I'm in
Speaker 1: business of talking about football, but I have no direct
Speaker 1: business relationship to the NFL. I could say whatever I want.
Speaker 1: I mean, I want the NFL to do well, right,
Speaker 1: because the better that the more people that watch them,
Speaker 1: the bigger my audience is. You know, in theory it's
Speaker 1: not directly correlated. But I think some times that type
Speaker 1: stuff gets overshadowed. I think actually a lot of media
Speaker 1: people don't quite understand the dynamics of the business, right.
Speaker 1: You know. Part of it is a lot of them
Speaker 1: push back at the bigger networks because they're told what
Speaker 1: to talk about, what rates, they don't really want to
Speaker 1: talk about it. That's the unique part about our platform
Speaker 1: is I can kind of talk about whatever I want now.
Speaker 1: I got a pretty good idea of what works and
Speaker 1: what doesn't. But yeah, I don't know why what I
Speaker 1: met by going on that little rant. Hey, John, it's
Speaker 1: my friends Jake's twenty second birthday. He's a huge fan.
Speaker 1: He actually listens to it religiously and echoes most of
Speaker 1: your takes. I was wondering if you would be willing
Speaker 1: to give him a quick birthday shout happy birthday, Jake. Ideally,
Speaker 1: if you could say from one ball knower to Jake,
Speaker 1: from one bald knower to another, twenty two bro, got
Speaker 1: the prime of your life. It's as good as it gets.
Speaker 1: Enjoy it. All of a sudden you look up and go,
Speaker 1: I'm forty fucking years old. I've been out of high
Speaker 1: school over twenty years. And then you realize life only
Speaker 1: gets better as you get older. Keep telling yourself that
Speaker 1: at least I'm a lifelong Jacksman. Every time you speak
Speaker 1: about us, it's always the coaches or Trevor. Would really
Speaker 1: love to hear your assessment of Brian Thomas Jr. He
Speaker 1: doesn't get much coverage playing down in Jacksonville, but I
Speaker 1: think he's as good as a guy guy we've drafted before.
Speaker 1: Obviously he looks excellent. It is pretty nuts. I guess
Speaker 1: it's not because their offense was historically awesome. Brian Thomas
Speaker 1: Junior has a chance to be, I would say, over
Speaker 1: the course of time, a top ten wide receiver. He
Speaker 1: did have a bad drop two weeks ago in the
Speaker 1: end zone, but he's been It's hard to watch them
Speaker 1: and not see a guy, you know, the speed, the athleticism,
Speaker 1: the playmaking. He's not quite Melik Neighbors, but he's I
Speaker 1: don't think I quite valued him enough when he was
Speaker 1: at LSU. But think about LSU's offense. They had Molik Neighbors,
Speaker 1: him and Jaden Daniels with two NFL tackles. Last year,
Speaker 1: they basically had the Joe Burrow offense, like Jamar Chase
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. I mean that one's we'll see if those
Speaker 1: guys become that. But you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: mean those one guy was drafted six, the other guys
Speaker 1: drafted whatever twenty third, and they both immediately like, damn,
Speaker 1: these guys are good. I even saw Brian Dave all
Speaker 1: the day was like, yeah, Milik Neighbors was open all
Speaker 1: the game along probably a big reason why DJ got benched. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd be pretty excited about Brian Thomas Jr. After watching
Speaker 1: Perty on Sunday, it's become clear to me that he
Speaker 1: isn't a franchise quarterback. Don't get me wrong. I love
Speaker 1: the guy and appreciate his story, but his physical limitations
Speaker 1: become so clear against these top defenses that play tight
Speaker 1: man coverage and force the quarterback to make tight window throws.
Speaker 1: And watching Kyle's play calling and listening to his pressers,
Speaker 1: I know he thinks the same thing. Teams like the
Speaker 1: Dolphins and Lions had no choice to pay their guy
Speaker 1: because their management didn't want to put their jobs in
Speaker 1: the hand of a rookie. But Kyle and John have
Speaker 1: that stability. Do you think Kyle ends up trading Brock
Speaker 1: and how much would the forty nine ers get for him?
Speaker 1: Drew Aller would be perfect for Kyle. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: his value actually wouldn't be great because he's up for
Speaker 1: a new contract, right, So it's who's trading. Would someone
Speaker 1: trade a one for Brock Purty and then give him
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars? I guess you never say never
Speaker 1: call the Raiders, but I would doubt it. His value
Speaker 1: to the Niners is infinitely more than to someone else. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like, think about if you live in a home
Speaker 1: that you like, that value of that home, especially if
Speaker 1: you've got a good interest rate, is worth a lot
Speaker 1: to you. Even if someone knocked and offered thirty percent
Speaker 1: above what you could get, You're like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like this is just easy. So when you look at
Speaker 1: the Niner situation, it's kind of an easy situation because
Speaker 1: this guy knows the offense. They've won a lot of
Speaker 1: games with him. But like you said, when they play
Speaker 1: top defenses. Last year, the Browns kind of embarrassing. The
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens not good yesterday really bad. I have been
Speaker 1: a huge, pretty supporter, like you said, the guy, his
Speaker 1: personal story, what he stands for, how tough he is,
Speaker 1: how clutch he's been. But there are some eye opening
Speaker 1: moments that you go which we know and I've always
Speaker 1: said this, like hearing him do Mahomes, Alan Lamar Herbert,
Speaker 1: those physical guys, Like he's not those guys, but can
Speaker 1: he be the best version of like the golf Dak
Speaker 1: and kind of that crew. And then you watch days
Speaker 1: like yesterday, You're like, God, he's not as like it
Speaker 1: wasn't there, and that consistently happened. So my counter is always,
Speaker 1: why do you have to pay him after this year?
Speaker 1: Why what's the rush? You do not have to He's
Speaker 1: got one more year. It's like, well he makes no money.
Speaker 1: Welly see, he's got Ariatt commercials, he's got John Deere commercials.
Speaker 1: Pretty's quite a little farmer. But he's making a lot
Speaker 1: of money now, a ton of money off the field.
Speaker 1: That's the great part about being starting quarterback for these
Speaker 1: big brands in the NFL. You can parlay it immediately,
Speaker 1: and he has. So it's like, to me, I don't
Speaker 1: feel comfortable just giving out those numbers, like you know
Speaker 1: what yesterday became. I text someone this, that's a fifty
Speaker 1: five million dollar roster on offense. Got Ricky Piersoll, you
Speaker 1: got Chris Conley, you got Kittle, Yt Trent, you got
Speaker 1: Jordan Mason. I mean, that's welcome to the league. I
Speaker 1: mean that's look at what Josh Allen was playing with
Speaker 1: before Amari came. You don't just get you know, it's
Speaker 1: like got Randy Moss, I got Debos, I got Kelsey
Speaker 1: and Kittle. That's not the way it works. One injury
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're looking. I'm telling I'm looking
Speaker 1: at Maria. I'm like, who are these guys in the
Speaker 1: cheap How are they kicking the Niners ass with these guys?
Speaker 1: She's like, where's Kelsey? I'm like, hey, just kind of
Speaker 1: a role player right now? Who's that running back? Oh?
Speaker 1: This this guy that was really good then he was
Speaker 1: out of the league and he's kind of old and
Speaker 1: Andy thought he was immature and had some issues, so
Speaker 1: they got rid of him. But he's mature. They brought
Speaker 1: him back and all of a sudden, he's given him
Speaker 1: twenty two carries me. He's running the ball right down
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers rope. It's like, what is going on?
Speaker 1: I just think I'm not you know some of these
Speaker 1: I think, you know, the most cliche thing to say
Speaker 1: for people to talk about sports, like this guy needs
Speaker 1: to get his back, deserves his back. I don't care
Speaker 1: not my money. I don't give a shit either way.
Speaker 1: You get paid awesome, someone doesn't want to pay it
Speaker 1: whatever it's on the teams, but I have never won.
Speaker 1: That's like, if you have any question marks. That was
Speaker 1: my thing with Dak, Like when he first signed the
Speaker 1: contract five years ago or whatever, one sixty. I did
Speaker 1: think it was pretty egregious. And he's still like he's
Speaker 1: never gonna be a top five guy, but he hovers
Speaker 1: between like six and twelve. So once you get that guy,
Speaker 1: it is and has proven it over and over and
Speaker 1: over again playshading the playoffs. But like the Cowboys were
Speaker 1: never gonna let him go. It's clear once they gave
Speaker 1: him that contract, Like why didn't you just sign the
Speaker 1: contract last year? Like it never even once you got
Speaker 1: once you traded for trailer ants and saw how terrible
Speaker 1: that guy was, because I think that was Jerry's hope,
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna make Deck sweat this in the Dak
Speaker 1: season for a couple of days at training camp. Are
Speaker 1: you serious, Jerry that this is this is gonna make
Speaker 1: me looselye? Come on, Jerry and Dak had him by
Speaker 1: the balls and Dak was gonna win that negotiation. Like
Speaker 1: to me, the Brock thing is, yeah, he's done remarkable
Speaker 1: things for the Niners, been a huge upgrade from Jimmy Garoppolo.
Speaker 1: But I'm watching Jordan love like and this is I
Speaker 1: come from the school of traits and Purty is not
Speaker 1: the type guy when I was scouting that when I
Speaker 1: watch football now on Saturdays for a decade plus, that
Speaker 1: I'm drawn to. I appreciate them and I admire, you know,
Speaker 1: guys that are good at football, but like I'm inclined
Speaker 1: to go with guys with the physical attributes who can
Speaker 1: also play. Right now, he was a seventh round pick,
Speaker 1: so he wasn't super high. But I'm watching Jordan love
Speaker 1: and going. And this is what I always say about
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, even Mahomes this year, Like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: give a shit about interceptions. I don't care. Like obviously,
Speaker 1: if you're just throwing interception out of interception, we're winning
Speaker 1: five games on the season, Yeah, it's a problem. But
Speaker 1: throwing picks and won't winning, That's what I would think,
Speaker 1: Like I'm a fan, Yeah, I can live with it
Speaker 1: as long as we win. The guy makes plays down
Speaker 1: the stretch. Again, Like one of my favorite players is
Speaker 1: a kid, was Brett Farr. Threw a lot of picks, sure,
Speaker 1: won a lot of games and slice up a lot
Speaker 1: of people when it mattered the most. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you would love sometimes the Aaron Rodgers forty touchdowns
Speaker 1: and five picks. One thing I do love even if
Speaker 1: you're throwing picks big time plays, and there was a
Speaker 1: throw yesterday in that game, we're pretty underthrown. I'm watching
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, he says, slinging that pill. My god, I
Speaker 1: was thinking about this today. I don't think Packer fans.
Speaker 1: Maybe some do, but it'd be impossible to It's like,
Speaker 1: if you're just like born into a lot of money,
Speaker 1: how do you even value money? It's like everything's You've
Speaker 1: just been richer entire life from the moment you could think, talk, see,
Speaker 1: walk to as you age, and you've just been rich
Speaker 1: your entire life. You don't really know anything else. So
Speaker 1: like I do understand why a lot of those people
Speaker 1: struggle with just perspective, like if you never like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't afford that hotel, or I can't afford to
Speaker 1: buy that car, let alone that home, or go on
Speaker 1: that vacation or whatever. Like I always tell this to people,
Speaker 1: like the word vacation is such like a that is
Speaker 1: such a first class thing to throw around. The overwhelming
Speaker 1: majority of human beings just don't go on a lot
Speaker 1: of vacations. When I was a kid, like I can
Speaker 1: count on like one hand, and I'm not counting like
Speaker 1: driving up in high school with buddies to Tahoe for
Speaker 1: the weekend, spend the night somewhere. I'm talking like people
Speaker 1: go away for a week like that. That is not normal.
Speaker 1: Most people don't do that. It's most people don't go
Speaker 1: from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers to draw love and
Speaker 1: even that, like, I don't know exactly what he's gonna
Speaker 1: ultimately be. It's like lafour gets mad when people are
Speaker 1: talking shit about the Farv that he throws too many
Speaker 1: picks like him, or everyone compares the way he moves
Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers. Do you know how crazy it is
Speaker 1: that you can be like, you know what, he's got
Speaker 1: bits and pieces of Farvin Rogers think how It's why
Speaker 1: I bet the house against it not working, because I went,
Speaker 1: what are the odds that they're gonna go from first
Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer to first ballot Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: to just a really good player, like a guy that's
Speaker 1: gonna make some Pro Bowls And you watch him. He's
Speaker 1: obviously a little radic at times, so is Brett, but man,
Speaker 1: that guy is an explosive player. Like you are so
Speaker 1: lucky you, I mean, what if you just want to
Speaker 1: ended up with and I'm not listen. I know this
Speaker 1: guy get drafted a lot higher in Jordan Love, but
Speaker 1: I'm just using these players as examples. Like what if
Speaker 1: the guy that you would draft of the end of
Speaker 1: the first was just Tua, right, I mean something like that, right, Dak.
Speaker 1: Some of that level, like this guy's physical attributes and
Speaker 1: ability to push the ball down the field is insane,
Speaker 1: it really is. As the level of play in the
Speaker 1: NFL gone downhill significantly lately. As a lifelong I'm twenty seven,
Speaker 1: a lot of your life is pretty good, bro. Right,
Speaker 1: as you were coming into being a sports fan, they
Speaker 1: say most sports fans really it really like materializes inside
Speaker 1: like eight years old. So from for twenty years you
Speaker 1: saw the majority of this. I find myself constantly thinking
Speaker 1: ninety percent of Tom Brady led Patriot teams would absolutely
Speaker 1: running through the current NFL with ease. Not many truly
Speaker 1: a middle linebackers or corners. So many poor offensive linemans,
Speaker 1: so many bad quarterbacks, so many poorly coached teams. I
Speaker 1: think that's the key. I honestly think that's the key. Now,
Speaker 1: we've always had bad coaches there, you know, there have
Speaker 1: been Jim tom Sulla's there have been Joe judges like that.
Speaker 1: There are bad coaches ten years ago, twenty thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: That's always been part of the deal. But I think
Speaker 1: one thing, if you look around this year, we have
Speaker 1: guys that probably never in a million years would have
Speaker 1: been a head coach twenty years ago because you would
Speaker 1: have given it. You just would have been more inclined
Speaker 1: to give it to a longtime coach, right like a coordinator.
Speaker 1: You know, twenty years ago, Spags for example, would have
Speaker 1: got another job. So the Patriots are the Raiders for example,
Speaker 1: or let's use the Panthers. Girod Mail has coached five years,
Speaker 1: five years. Dave Candallas, he was a coordinator for one
Speaker 1: year and spent over a decade with Pete Carroll. And
Speaker 1: if look at his resume, like he wasn't it's kind
Speaker 1: of crazy. And they were running through offensive coaches and
Speaker 1: it's like it took him till the latter part of
Speaker 1: his time there to even get with the quarterbacks. Mayo
Speaker 1: was a little unique because he had played there, So
Speaker 1: I'd argue that we've seen Gerrod Mayo before. The Al
Speaker 1: Davis used to do things like that. But I think
Speaker 1: you see a lot of coaches that just wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been coaches, And we've seen it the last couple of
Speaker 1: years that like the Joe Judges of the world, the
Speaker 1: Antonio Pearce was coaching high school team like six or
Speaker 1: seven years ago. It was not that long ago that
Speaker 1: he was the head coach at Long Beach. Polly, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think that the coaching I think like
Speaker 1: any industry, and it's not even just head coaching. I
Speaker 1: think it's position coaching. There is so much money in
Speaker 1: the business. I heard a story today about a linebacker
Speaker 1: coach who makes well over a million dollars. You understand,
Speaker 1: I would say the majority of offensive line coaches in
Speaker 1: the league are all making over one million dollars. Running back,
Speaker 1: wide receiver coach, these guys are making, depending on how
Speaker 1: long you've been in the league, anywhere from six hundred
Speaker 1: grand to nine hundred grand. These jobs pay so much money.
Speaker 1: If you can get a coordinator job and sign like
Speaker 1: a three year, six million dollar deal like that changes
Speaker 1: the course of your family. And also if you have
Speaker 1: success doing that, all of a sudden you're signing a
Speaker 1: four year, thirty million dollar deal to be a head
Speaker 1: coach could be more than that depending on how much
Speaker 1: your value could be four or five or fifty. So
Speaker 1: whenever there's a business that is giving away that much money,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have. Frads, you're gonna have and one. It's
Speaker 1: a tough job, right, It's very time consuming. You're working
Speaker 1: during the season eighty ninety hour weeks. It's you have
Speaker 1: to be able to deal with people. Well, think about
Speaker 1: the majority of humans. You know what percentage of them
Speaker 1: are great? Deal with people not most. So it's like
Speaker 1: just because you like no football does not mean you're
Speaker 1: a great people person. Then you got to be able
Speaker 1: to do a couple things like motivate coach in terms
Speaker 1: of teach and deal with your players who are much
Speaker 1: younger than you that are having ups and downs in
Speaker 1: their life. It's a very very challenging job. I'm obviously
Speaker 1: very critical of the job, but I'll be the first
Speaker 1: to having spent a ton of time around these it
Speaker 1: is hard. I'm not acting like one I could do
Speaker 1: it too, I wouldn't want to do it. I'd have
Speaker 1: no I don't care that much about helping people in
Speaker 1: terms of like I I couldn't do have a group
Speaker 1: if I was like an offensive line coach or wide
Speaker 1: receiver coach and pretend to care about the guys I
Speaker 1: didn't think were good enough. And part of coaching is
Speaker 1: doing that and having like a belief in someone that
Speaker 1: doesn't believe in themselves and honestly might not be good enough.
Speaker 1: And sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. And some
Speaker 1: people are like addicted to that feeling. I'm the opposite
Speaker 1: of you couldn't that feeling does nothing to me. But
Speaker 1: like I said, I have a lot of admiration for
Speaker 1: how hard all these guys work, but they're highly compensated.
Speaker 1: Like this is not either expecting me to work ninety
Speaker 1: hours and they're paying me eighty k. You know, I
Speaker 1: understand this is not a nine to five, but shit,
Speaker 1: they're asking a lot of me. No, we're paying you premiums.
Speaker 1: And I just think the coaching. I also think the
Speaker 1: evolution of all these offenses and defenses. How could all
Speaker 1: these guys know this stuff as well? You're constantly moving teams,
Speaker 1: you're learning new stuff. I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't have an identity, you know, like the Shanahan guys
Speaker 1: all feel pretty confident running you know the base of
Speaker 1: the offense, right, I'm trying to think that the Pete
Speaker 1: Carroll guys, it's kind of outdated now, but for a
Speaker 1: long time really really understood that defense. Like that's the
Speaker 1: core philosophical belief. How to run that defense, how to
Speaker 1: develop that unit, to run that defense starting in OTAs,
Speaker 1: through training camp, through the through the season. So like
Speaker 1: you you completely have in your in your gut what
Speaker 1: you want to do. I think a lot of guys
Speaker 1: are just kind of philosophically they float like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: did this, then I did that, Like well, what what
Speaker 1: is yours? Like what what have you mastered? What have
Speaker 1: you mastered? And in fairness, because of the profession, you're
Speaker 1: constantly getting fired. You got to take a job, You're
Speaker 1: moving all over the place. It's hard. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of luck involved. Like when you're twenty seven, did you
Speaker 1: get hired on Andy Reid's staff or Bill Belichick's staff
Speaker 1: or Mike Shanahan or you know Pete Carroll's, Cause if
Speaker 1: you get on the wrong staff, it's like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: Jim Tom Sulla gave me a call that derailed my career.
Speaker 1: Mail bag in the case of for example, sa Kwon
Speaker 1: Barkley going to the Eagles, who are in the same
Speaker 1: division as the Giants and they play each other a lot.
Speaker 1: Would he relay the Eagles game plan and strategies that
Speaker 1: the Giants had when the Eagles are preparing for the Giants.
Speaker 1: Is there some kind of agreement that players won't share
Speaker 1: insider information about their former teams when they are traded
Speaker 1: two new teams. No, there isn't you know, having worked
Speaker 1: in radio, that there are clauses you had to sign
Speaker 1: your contract. I don't really have any proprietary information here obviously,
Speaker 1: besides like the podcast feed. But I'm sure a lot
Speaker 1: of you that work in different industries have competition clauses
Speaker 1: in football. Now, maybe he had to give, you know,
Speaker 1: these playbooks around the iPad, So maybe his team issued iPad.
Speaker 1: At the end of the season, he gives back. But
Speaker 1: think about what you just said. For example, so he
Speaker 1: could go tell the defense, this is how we've looked
Speaker 1: to attack you the last couple of years. Well, their
Speaker 1: whole defense is new. It's a new scheme with Vic Fangio.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing. And I saw Belichick. Belichick's been
Speaker 1: on a heater lately. Today on McAfee. He was just
Speaker 1: letting it fly. You talk about a guy that does
Speaker 1: not care. Right now, this is all I ever want
Speaker 1: out of my Belichick's, my Manning's, my Brady's. It's like,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do this and get a mic infront
Speaker 1: of you, let it fly. Why do you care? Especially Bill? Bill,
Speaker 1: You've made so much money, you're headed straight to Canton.
Speaker 1: You got this twenty five year old girl on your arm,
Speaker 1: your living who gives you? I know you talked about
Speaker 1: all these people. I don't even need all of it.
Speaker 1: Just give me like twenty five percent of it. Let
Speaker 1: it rip. And he's letting it go on the Jets.
Speaker 1: He was letting it fly on the Giants. It's like, yes,
Speaker 1: I can't stand the Matt Patricias is like, Matt, if
Speaker 1: you're not gonna say anything, and I mean anything, what
Speaker 1: is the point of all this? Why don't you just
Speaker 1: stay in the film room and feed Bill notes if
Speaker 1: you're gonna, hey, say this. This scheme sucks because I
Speaker 1: know you believe that. I know you're thinking that, and
Speaker 1: I think more and more Bill's talking. He's like, Ea, shit,
Speaker 1: I'm Bill freaking Belichick. Say whatever I want. It's why
Speaker 1: you know I thought Nick Saban on the Texas Georgia game,
Speaker 1: he flipped a coin to pick the team, and he
Speaker 1: claimed that he fell on Texas. I'm pretty sure he's
Speaker 1: picking Texas no matter what in that environment. And a
Speaker 1: lot of people I say this on social media, they're like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? You think Nick cares? Well?
Speaker 1: I had a birdie tell me who's very in the
Speaker 1: loop in what goes on, not in just in the
Speaker 1: SEC but those specific programs that Kirby and Nick aren't
Speaker 1: super close anymore, even though that was literally his mentee. Well,
Speaker 1: why do you think that is? Because Kirby, who helped
Speaker 1: Nick build Alabama from the ground, was his defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: and assistant head coach and right hand man, got there
Speaker 1: at seven o eight with him and built that fucker
Speaker 1: from the ground. Well, when he went to Georgia, what happened.
Speaker 1: Georgia quickly became Bama's equal, was quickly recruiting the exact
Speaker 1: same player and was landing a lot of guys that
Speaker 1: Nick would have landed. Like ultimately, Nicks in competition with them.
Speaker 1: So they're not quite as close is I think they
Speaker 1: portray and in a weird way maybe because they're like
Speaker 1: two p's in a pod, very similar people in this
Speaker 1: defensive guys. Maybe because Sarks an offensive guy and he's
Speaker 1: just a little more optimistic, happier. It feels like like
Speaker 1: Nick like Sark more. Now maybe it's because he doesn't
Speaker 1: view Texas As like a Bama equal. I know they
Speaker 1: beat him last year, but I just mean just in
Speaker 1: terms of programs, and now that Texas is in the SEC,
Speaker 1: it's probably it would be different. But at the time,
Speaker 1: like Georgia became his equal in the SEC, so it
Speaker 1: took a little shine off him. Like at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, like these fucking guys got big egos,
Speaker 1: big egos. So I'm Kirby smart, I go Nick. We
Speaker 1: have played a ton of times in the SEC championship game,
Speaker 1: we played the National Championship game. We have gone to
Speaker 1: war together. I'm pretty sure Kirby went to Miami with him.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Dolphins and you have to flip a
Speaker 1: coin on this one, Like I'm your guy. If I
Speaker 1: was Kirby, I'd be kind of pissed, Like Nick, you
Speaker 1: played me enough. You think Sark's a better coach than me?
Speaker 1: Do you do you believe that? Honestly? Do you believe
Speaker 1: that Nick, you're gonna flip a coin like these are
Speaker 1: my two guys. Now, Sark work for you for a
Speaker 1: couple of years. We spent like a decade together, my
Speaker 1: man winning Natties from scratch. When we showed up the team, bleww,
Speaker 1: it wasn't Alabama football. It was a program that could
Speaker 1: barely get to six and six. That guy showed up
Speaker 1: when you know everyone was making money and now you
Speaker 1: act like we're all equals. I'd be pissed to if
Speaker 1: I was Kirby. I really would. I'd be like, screw you, man,
Speaker 1: that's just like and guess what. You watched that postgame
Speaker 1: presser for Kirby. He was saying a lot of different things,
Speaker 1: but when he said the ESPN everyone picked him. He
Speaker 1: doesn't care who McAfee or Desmond Howard picked. He's going
Speaker 1: Nick Saban picked fucking Texas over us. That that was
Speaker 1: people like he flipped a coin. Bullshit. I have a
Speaker 1: hard time thinking. I just think Nick. I just think
Speaker 1: he was picking Texas no matter what, because in this
Speaker 1: weird way, who did he want to replace him? Last
Speaker 1: year when he retired? You know his number one pick
Speaker 1: was Steve Sarkisian that's who he wanted. Now, obviously Kirby's
Speaker 1: not gonna leave George to go to Alabama. It's the
Speaker 1: same job, and Kirby went to George. But still like
Speaker 1: Nick has kind of this weird affinity for Sark, which
Speaker 1: again Sarks good Sarks. Sarks kind of grown on me.
Speaker 1: But as I said with Colin, and I just don't
Speaker 1: think this can be overstated enough, it's hard to be
Speaker 1: a tough guy when you're not a tough guy. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I didn't really knew or know. Like, my dad was
Speaker 1: a farmer, so I was around some guys who were
Speaker 1: I would quote unquote considered tough. But it's not like
Speaker 1: when I was a kid you would see them fighting
Speaker 1: and stuff. You just knew, like that guy's a tough guy.
Speaker 1: It's like that guy's been through some shit. But when
Speaker 1: I got to cal Paly, and I had never been
Speaker 1: around wrestlers and I got there in two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: in my incoming class was a guy named Chad Mendez
Speaker 1: who went on to his senior year was one of
Speaker 1: the best wrestlers in the country. I think lost in
Speaker 1: the National Championship. Went on to Dana White in the UFC.
Speaker 1: He's fought Conner, he's fot Aldo and the guy one
Speaker 1: of my fraternity budd He's one of my good buddies.
Speaker 1: Aaron Woshowski was basically I think he got into school,
Speaker 1: like he had to come to summer school or whatever
Speaker 1: and lived with these guys, all the wrestlers, because they
Speaker 1: had to do the same thing. And then once we
Speaker 1: became friends, he started telling us stories. And I didn't
Speaker 1: even know who Chad Bendez was, but about these guys
Speaker 1: in the summer going to like Pismo Beach where like
Speaker 1: twenty minutes where the school was away from the beach
Speaker 1: and getting into a fight with like a biker gang
Speaker 1: and Chad Mendez, this eighteen year old kid. And obviously
Speaker 1: by the end, by the time we're graduating, we had
Speaker 1: all seen Chad and the crew getting brawls yearly, never
Speaker 1: even come close to losing. Honestly, I don't think even
Speaker 1: they took many shots, right, I mean, I think the
Speaker 1: delivery of giving to taking swings at the face and
Speaker 1: the body is got to be like a fifty to
Speaker 1: one ratio. And it's like that in life, right, Guys
Speaker 1: who can fight. We all know guys that can fight,
Speaker 1: and guys like I ain't getting to a brawl, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna win, so I just avoid them. Now, if
Speaker 1: I had to, you got no choice. But like like
Speaker 1: you kind of know, like, yeah, that's not my thing.
Speaker 1: But it's no different in coaching, right, some guys like
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, you can't fake that edge and that toughness
Speaker 1: he had, Urban Meyer has as well. You cannot fake that.
Speaker 1: You either have it deep inside your soul, in your gut,
Speaker 1: or you don't. And Kirby Smart has that, and it
Speaker 1: tends to be defensive guys, guys that play defense. Nick
Speaker 1: Saban was a defensive player at Kent State. Kirby Smart
Speaker 1: obviously defensive player. A lot of offensive guys don't have that,
Speaker 1: and like Sark does not have that, there is no
Speaker 1: way that he can keep his team on edge, even
Speaker 1: if they got the same team, the same exact players.
Speaker 1: If it was just if this was a video game
Speaker 1: and I gave each team the same exact lineup, Kirby's
Speaker 1: would just be tougher. Now, it doesn't mean Sarks wouldn't
Speaker 1: be better offensively, you know, schematically more difficult to neutralize.
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. I'm just talking about pure toughness, grit,
Speaker 1: and like we're here for a fucking browl and defensive guys,
Speaker 1: the good ones they like you watch Mike Tomlins team,
Speaker 1: Do you watch John Harbaugh's team? Like you don't fake
Speaker 1: that stuff. Jim Harbaugh's a quarterback, but he's wired like
Speaker 1: those guys. Same thing with Dan Campbell. He's a tight end,
Speaker 1: but he feels more like a outside linebacker. Like you
Speaker 1: just can't fake what they have now if you don't
Speaker 1: have it. Like I don't think Kyle Shanahan or Sean
Speaker 1: McVay are tough guys, but where they're good is they
Speaker 1: understand the importance of defense and they give a lot
Speaker 1: of resources to that side of the ball. Andy's kind
Speaker 1: of in the middle, Like I would not mess with Andy,
Speaker 1: but he's more easy going, but like if he has to,
Speaker 1: like I would not bug with Andy. Now, he doesn't
Speaker 1: carry himself as crazy, but like he's got it in
Speaker 1: his back pocket at any moment because he's from a
Speaker 1: group of guys Mike Holmgren, John Gruden that also had
Speaker 1: that in their back pocket. And those guys were offensive guys, right,
Speaker 1: So I I just it's one of the most fascinating
Speaker 1: things about coaching. Scheme is really important in the NFL
Speaker 1: is a little different, right, Like motivation to me is
Speaker 1: a little overrated in the NFL. It's much more of
Speaker 1: the chess game and the coaching game. It's more of
Speaker 1: an intellectual game because everyone's all the players like you
Speaker 1: get to that level, like you better be playing around
Speaker 1: but in college because you know, not everyone has a
Speaker 1: pro at this position or you know a really good
Speaker 1: player at this position. The edge and the coaching and
Speaker 1: the intensity and this the that raw ra stuff, to
Speaker 1: me is obviously you got to recruit. I'm not saying like,
Speaker 1: but like, is Walker that much better than the left
Speaker 1: tackle who's supposedly a first rounder for Texas? Or was
Speaker 1: Kirby in that guy's ass all week long and telling
Speaker 1: them we're out for blood. I can't even imagine the
Speaker 1: intensity and how guys were walking on eggshells in that building,
Speaker 1: because it was like that in Alabama for fifteen years,
Speaker 1: and I've been lucky enough to know a lot of
Speaker 1: guys that worked in Alabama. It was like that in
Speaker 1: New England also lucky enough to know a lot of
Speaker 1: guys that work there. It's not really like that in
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Now, the one thing in Kansas City is
Speaker 1: like you were practicing. So unless you're got a torn
Speaker 1: ecl or on injury, reserve, buckle that shit up Wednesday
Speaker 1: and we're wearing pads and it's an intense football environment,
Speaker 1: but it's a little bit more on you. You either
Speaker 1: match it, show up to practice, work hard, learn the plays,
Speaker 1: and take the shit seriously, or we'll just get rid
Speaker 1: of you. It's very and this is what I like
Speaker 1: about Andy. It's much more like a business, right either
Speaker 1: this is what we're doing, was what we always do.
Speaker 1: You either shape in or shape out, But like, this
Speaker 1: is what goes on here, and it's an intense place
Speaker 1: to play. But if you shape in, it's a great
Speaker 1: place to play because it's definitely more fun than the
Speaker 1: New England Dynasty. Like we smiled. We have a good
Speaker 1: time here. But the football stuff is very intense, very intense.
Speaker 1: And that's where I think there's a lot of similarities
Speaker 1: with Andy and Belichick is the football stuff's very intense.
Speaker 1: Though Andy's much more likely to like break bread with you, right,
Speaker 1: hang out, know your wife's name. I don't think Belichick.
Speaker 1: Belichick wouldn't talk to people walking down the hallway, which
Speaker 1: I totally believe, be yourself, and that's his authentic self
Speaker 1: or his belief on how to do it. So I
Speaker 1: don't even know how we got in that tangent, but
Speaker 1: have a great day to talk to you tomorrow. The
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