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Speaker 1: that Bill Jones with Everson Walls, Danny Sirek, and Mickey Spagnola. Yes,
Speaker 1: the star of our show here. This is Mick Shots.
Speaker 1: He heard the show last week and was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I gotta get back in there. I know, let's make
Speaker 1: me sure. That's dumping on you man about that's what
Speaker 1: happens where you have to make a flight reservation in
Speaker 1: the middle of March and not knowing what was going
Speaker 1: to happen in May, and I was counting on not
Speaker 1: going to let us do anything. We're not going to
Speaker 1: be able to go watch anything. I'm getting out of here.
Speaker 1: So you have missed a pessimistic I was at that
Speaker 1: time was yeah, yeah, yeah. Doctor Fouci decided you could
Speaker 1: be out there and uh, you know, don't. Doesn't it
Speaker 1: look like Mickey's glowing right now? That sweat and to
Speaker 1: pull back the curtain here, summer has hit all of
Speaker 1: us here in Frisco, Texas. It is. It's a it's
Speaker 1: Florida muggy out there. Oh, last night was horrible. Last
Speaker 1: night was horrible. Even with one of those clothes. You
Speaker 1: can feel it now to turn your house that doesn't
Speaker 1: help it. Yeah, it was seriously so. Because Mickey is
Speaker 1: glowing right now. He's got so much to talk about
Speaker 1: what he just saw on the practice field, and Danny
Speaker 1: does as well. Yeah, but I'm not as I'm not glistening.
Speaker 1: How about that? As much as Mickey, you're inside watching,
Speaker 1: I watching and the air conditioning. I was working on
Speaker 1: my camp tam. It happened fast. Nice shirt, Yeah, thank
Speaker 1: you sir, that's it's my favorite. I was really dressing
Speaker 1: for Cliff. But you know, well, we can't wait to
Speaker 1: hear what happened on the practice field. This, of course,
Speaker 1: is day one of the mandatory mini camp for twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one, and they were out on the practice field.
Speaker 1: I was able to watch from a distance. I had
Speaker 1: to get here late because I had I continued to
Speaker 1: have plumbing issues at home. And I'll relate it to football. Okay,
Speaker 1: as I told my wife, you're like a coach of
Speaker 1: a football team. Okay, you had the rookie quarterback in there,
Speaker 1: he threw four interceptions. Now you got to get a
Speaker 1: veteran in there, and so he got the veteran plumber
Speaker 1: coming to borrow to fix that. That's enough about that,
Speaker 1: all right, nicky. What's there on the field? I saw?
Speaker 1: I saw who was participating, who wasn't? Um basically, gosh
Speaker 1: who who wasn't participating but could run? I saw George
Speaker 1: Teague out there. He's not playing, is no? I think
Speaker 1: they they filled up their safety color there are Not
Speaker 1: to say George Sea would be desperate, but at what
Speaker 1: age George te My question to somebody when I recognized
Speaker 1: I didn't recognize who that was out there, I said,
Speaker 1: who's that? And they said, oh, it's George Teague. He's
Speaker 1: watching practice. His beard's white as ever, he's got a
Speaker 1: beard hair. Oh, his hair, his beard turned. His beard
Speaker 1: is white. Yeah, does he have full No? No, it's
Speaker 1: clapp Okay, look look good looks. So I think the
Speaker 1: probably good news is even though that uh Tyrant Smith,
Speaker 1: Lele Collins and Zach Martin aren't participating in practice. They're
Speaker 1: doing their rehab. I saw them running and they're running
Speaker 1: full speed, so they look like they're fine. They're just
Speaker 1: being very cautious with those guys and they'll be ready
Speaker 1: uh to start training camp. As matter of fact, the
Speaker 1: three of them, they were uh tethered to these kind
Speaker 1: of metal sleds and they were running and pulling them
Speaker 1: on the on the grass. Uh and they were able
Speaker 1: to do that. So I think that bodes well that
Speaker 1: those guys are just fine. That's the reindeer drill. The
Speaker 1: reindeer they're pulling the sled very good. I bet that's
Speaker 1: not what they call it. I don't know what ranging
Speaker 1: these little things. The other guys running awfully, awfully well.
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence and Tristan Hill full speed sprinting. So they
Speaker 1: didn't practice but uh, and they haven't practiced yet, but
Speaker 1: we won't see them until we get to training camp.
Speaker 1: So I thought that was good. I know it was
Speaker 1: part hype, but I saw I think I read something
Speaker 1: about last week that a three linemen are feeling better
Speaker 1: than they've ever felt in quite some time doing this
Speaker 1: part of the off scenes absolutely, um and Tyran basically said,
Speaker 1: this is the best he's felt, and he feels like
Speaker 1: what they did with his neck kind of took care
Speaker 1: of some of the things he was having with his back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the next connected to the what's that little ryme?
Speaker 1: Yeah we got yeah, okay, thanks, but yeah, and and
Speaker 1: and so those guys they're they're good to go. They
Speaker 1: are just being very cautious with those Uh. Dak did
Speaker 1: everything other than they when they go eleven on eleven
Speaker 1: with a pass rush and he seems to be throwing
Speaker 1: the ball just fine. Uh, the guys that of significance
Speaker 1: that weren't out there. Uh. Donovan Wilson and Cedric Wilson
Speaker 1: both were there watching. Uh Marie Cooper there Washington watching.
Speaker 1: You know, Marie's coming back from that offseason surgery. Uh.
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson and Cedric Wilson both have a little something
Speaker 1: going on that from OTAs. So they just basically said,
Speaker 1: we don't need to win the season opener in June. So, Uh,
Speaker 1: they let those guys kind of hang back. Kelvin Joseph
Speaker 1: was back here. Uh he missed last week. Um, Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy said he had to do a ten day quarantine,
Speaker 1: so he must have had contact with somebody that tested positive.
Speaker 1: I thought maybe he was working on another album, an album,
Speaker 1: get another rap going on. Yeah, I heard it was excused,
Speaker 1: so that that was good news. And then they had
Speaker 1: some other wide receivers that last week. I think they
Speaker 1: were having allergy problems and I think they continue to
Speaker 1: do that, uh this week, including Semi Fiahoko u so
Speaker 1: the red. But after that, I think everybody else was
Speaker 1: basically out there other than the guys doing rehab and
Speaker 1: then Hunter the punter, Uh, nice wander. Uh he's his
Speaker 1: wife's having a complicated pregnancy and so he's been excused
Speaker 1: to not be here. You know, I haven't really seen
Speaker 1: like Zerline. I hadn't seen him here kicking or anything.
Speaker 1: Maybe he kicks on his own. They don't do any
Speaker 1: field goals or anything and any of these drills. So
Speaker 1: but other than that, uh, yeah, the gang was all here. Um.
Speaker 1: So it was of a tone down practice. A lot
Speaker 1: of technique, right Danny, Yeah, and a lot of the
Speaker 1: points I had you touched on it. It didn't feel
Speaker 1: maybe as exciting. Maybe that's because we've seen them practice
Speaker 1: a little more with OTAs, but nothing really I guess
Speaker 1: stood out in a way that surprised me. Good or bad.
Speaker 1: I will say, like little things I noted and OTAs.
Speaker 1: I never saw Jalen Smith do the sledge rills, and
Speaker 1: I saw him do some of that today, which makes
Speaker 1: me think he's recovering in that risk surgery recovering there.
Speaker 1: I noted the same thing about the three offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Given we only see so much as the media, but
Speaker 1: it felt like we saw them for the longest amount
Speaker 1: that we have seen them out there working doing a
Speaker 1: little more strength and conditioning. I said, Dak looked good.
Speaker 1: You couldn't again tell ankle issues. Dropbacks were good, Passes
Speaker 1: were quicked. Nashan Wright has consistently had good coverage in
Speaker 1: the drills. You agree with me there. Yeah, he had
Speaker 1: one play where he kind of got burned by No
Speaker 1: Brown today, but he is consistently throughout OTAs, throughout practice day,
Speaker 1: he's looked really good. I think he's around the football. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even though these are non contact thing. Although there was
Speaker 1: a significant contact thing that took place. Three guys kind
Speaker 1: of collided and I believe I've believe it was McCann
Speaker 1: kind of it looked like he got somewhat ding. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a bad word to use these days, right,
Speaker 1: because that's what's got ding right um. And maybe the
Speaker 1: best thing I saw is Randy Gregory was out there
Speaker 1: and he looks faster than ever coming off the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. He looks like he's gotten a little bigger,
Speaker 1: like maybe a little more strength. And he he blew
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage on one play and the
Speaker 1: quarterback would have been just annihilated. I don't even think
Speaker 1: he got touched. I believe he's going to do one
Speaker 1: of the interviews this afternoon, so it'll be good to
Speaker 1: hear from him. And he was having fun, so I
Speaker 1: think that's a really good sign to see him coming
Speaker 1: off one side. Eventually DeMarcus Lawrence on the other side.
Speaker 1: And at one point when they I don't know what
Speaker 1: kind of alignment they were in, but they lined up
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons at the right defensive end spot and it
Speaker 1: looked like he was shot out of a cannon. He
Speaker 1: would have just again, it would have been the same thing.
Speaker 1: He would have annihilated the quarterback because nobody could touch him.
Speaker 1: He got off so fast. So those are the best thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, he got quite a few snaps out there.
Speaker 1: He was playing I think Danny Moore of the young guys.
Speaker 1: A lot of the young guys were getting more kind
Speaker 1: of upgraded snaps, maybe almost first team, but they mixed
Speaker 1: and matched. And then at the end they called it
Speaker 1: team tempo and I'm going, okay, what does team tempo mean? Well,
Speaker 1: it was basically team walked through tempo meant we slowed
Speaker 1: it down. Yeah, there was no temple whatsoever. So anyway,
Speaker 1: that's kind of what took place. And McCarthy kind of
Speaker 1: warned us, he said, this will be very similar to
Speaker 1: what we did in OTA's. The only difference is we
Speaker 1: can meet with them longer. So and then the last
Speaker 1: period was basically a meeting on the field. The offense
Speaker 1: was here, the defense was there, and and they were
Speaker 1: just doing skeleton type plays and formations. So, you know,
Speaker 1: for for a right to be making all of these
Speaker 1: plays and for them to be so noticeable, I can
Speaker 1: understand it. It's just this time of the year. You're
Speaker 1: not going to be win anything in June. I get that,
Speaker 1: but you know, that's the talent to be a route
Speaker 1: to know where the receivers going to snuff out the
Speaker 1: sniff out the direction of the office of patterns. That's
Speaker 1: that's the talent to know where they're going, you know,
Speaker 1: to decipher it and make that play. Yeah, of course
Speaker 1: it's it's just off season. But to be in position
Speaker 1: to do that all the time and for it to
Speaker 1: be that noticeable every practice from not just you, but
Speaker 1: from you as well, Yeah, I think that's something that
Speaker 1: you can kind of build on because you know, if
Speaker 1: you know what, you know it, you can't unknow it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you can't go out there
Speaker 1: and dumb it down if you know it. And for
Speaker 1: him to kind of decipher things that will that kind
Speaker 1: of gives me a little a little promise. And you know,
Speaker 1: last Friday for my column, I wrote about the cornerback
Speaker 1: position and basically said, you know, there was seemed to
Speaker 1: be this, uh like everybody was just assumption that Trayvon
Speaker 1: Diggs starts at one and Kelvin Joson starts at the other.
Speaker 1: And my point was not so fast because Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: might have something to say about it, right, the veteran.
Speaker 1: The veteran, Yeah, he's been out there working with the
Speaker 1: first team with Diggs on the other side. And my
Speaker 1: point was, I know Kelvin Joseph, and we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens there, but don't go to sleep on Nashon right.
Speaker 1: And I think we talked about it on the Blitz
Speaker 1: on Sunday night, Okay. So that's my question about Kelvin Joseph.
Speaker 1: How important is this time of the year for a
Speaker 1: rookie coming in here and he's missed the ten days
Speaker 1: that he would have been out here basically on the
Speaker 1: field doing I mean they had four OTAs last week
Speaker 1: three three, okay, So he missed last week, right, And
Speaker 1: that was another point in Mike, because you had Memorial
Speaker 1: Day weekend the previous week, so that counts. It was
Speaker 1: four days there, and that takes you through Monday, then
Speaker 1: four days I get you to eight days on Friday,
Speaker 1: and then Sunday was his tenth day then. But at
Speaker 1: least he had the rookie Minicamp, which no one had
Speaker 1: last year, and had the first week of ot So
Speaker 1: he missed a week of OTA. Yes, and uh uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he looks like he has a physical ability
Speaker 1: to play. Uh And I remembered what you said, he
Speaker 1: what about his hips? Can he turn and he seems
Speaker 1: to be able to do that. Now we'll see what
Speaker 1: he can do in coverage. But I think between you know,
Speaker 1: the four of them, they just might have something going there.
Speaker 1: Wants to, you know, get the training camp and actually
Speaker 1: see some football. When you when you think about somebody
Speaker 1: like Brown, you know, I was never a big fan
Speaker 1: of his, but just know that he's quick, He's extremely athletic.
Speaker 1: But I just don't think he has the instinct of
Speaker 1: a cornerback that grows as he as he gets older
Speaker 1: and hopefully has more experience. Plus, if you start, if
Speaker 1: you start changing the culture around here, you know, then
Speaker 1: the tip balls, you know, the bad passes, things of
Speaker 1: that nature. He can take advantage of that, but he
Speaker 1: has to be shown that. You know, it's once you
Speaker 1: see others do it, then it's just almost like you
Speaker 1: have to fall in line. And I'm hoping that these
Speaker 1: young kids can show some of these older dbs on
Speaker 1: this team just how you're supposed to go out to
Speaker 1: the ball. So I was, now, yeah, just being able
Speaker 1: to us got that Trayvon's got. He's one of the
Speaker 1: younger guys the way I look at it. But but
Speaker 1: you know, when you got the older guys out there
Speaker 1: who are not used to making plays, and even though
Speaker 1: Brown's not that old, he's not used to making plays
Speaker 1: on the ball. They need to be shown an example.
Speaker 1: And that's that's the way we always there. We came
Speaker 1: in eighty one. I wasn't the only one trying to
Speaker 1: get interceptions. Michael Down's out there picking stuff up, right
Speaker 1: thenis Thurman's out there picks? Yeah, nine picks in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty one, so Herman Steves that's why they called. But
Speaker 1: that didn't occurred to Lady five. Well, we had already
Speaker 1: led the league three or four times as a team,
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a culture that was created. So
Speaker 1: Brown did have a nice break up when they were
Speaker 1: in seven on seven, I think. But I was going
Speaker 1: to ask you last week. I wasn't here so looking
Speaker 1: at these rookies, and you may be the worst one
Speaker 1: to ask, since you had eleven interceptions as a rookie.
Speaker 1: Was the hard team if you count the playoff playoffs
Speaker 1: and another two in the Pro Bowl. But you know,
Speaker 1: okay was counting, and that was back when the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl wasn't just yeah, I got Chuck Mussey knocked me out.
Speaker 1: What was the toughest part the transition from college to
Speaker 1: the NFL for a cornerback. I think mainly with with
Speaker 1: me that it was a little unique. Was the flex
Speaker 1: defense itself. You know, I was you know, we were
Speaker 1: at Grambling. We didn't even play nickel defense. We didn't
Speaker 1: play nickel or dime. You just go out there and
Speaker 1: man up. That was your I got you, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's it. I'm shutting this brothers now of a sudden.
Speaker 1: You know, we always had the zones because you know,
Speaker 1: you learned that from high school. You always have the
Speaker 1: zone play, which is easy. But now you got a
Speaker 1: flex a flex zone, which I don't know if you
Speaker 1: knew it, but it's it's a it's a it's a
Speaker 1: horrible defense for the for a defensive back. We were
Speaker 1: the sacrificial lamps. It's made to play against the run.
Speaker 1: So it was it was made to defend. You remember
Speaker 1: the quarterback pass that was a that was a pass
Speaker 1: pattern that was called a quarterback pass. That's when they
Speaker 1: just had standard personnel, two backs to one tight end,
Speaker 1: two wide receivers. Well tight end would do a drag
Speaker 1: across on the play action pass. Here comes the wide
Speaker 1: receiver or the wing back, he's going inside as well
Speaker 1: the weak side. Michael Gallop, he's going deep posts. That's
Speaker 1: the quarterback pass. Everybody ran it. They did it for
Speaker 1: thirty forty years. So that's what we had to learn.
Speaker 1: That defense was made by Tom Landry to stop Jim Brown,
Speaker 1: but also to stop the pass that comes off of
Speaker 1: that play action. They don't do that anymore. But we
Speaker 1: had to read the flow of the backs and you
Speaker 1: go from zone to man to man, but depending on
Speaker 1: the floor of the backs. Now you telling me what defense,
Speaker 1: what defense can read that, what rookie can read that.
Speaker 1: I have to read the backside flow from zone that
Speaker 1: could take me to a man to man. I mean,
Speaker 1: like I got help. Now I'm help. Before the ball
Speaker 1: snapped all of a sudden, they go flow strong to
Speaker 1: the tight end. Now I'm man to man by myself.
Speaker 1: Nowhere to be found is any help. That was a
Speaker 1: difficult part coming in as a rookie because our system
Speaker 1: was so unique under Tom Landry. Other than just the
Speaker 1: regular man on man and challenge that you had to
Speaker 1: have was it was just all about trying to get
Speaker 1: through the numbers five rookie dB SO and I think
Speaker 1: last year even with digs. I think we saw there
Speaker 1: were times he didn't read it right. There were times
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was in the right coverage,
Speaker 1: and there were times he got caught looking looking inside. Well,
Speaker 1: the main thing you always have is being a little
Speaker 1: bit too aggressive, because the pros play on that. In college,
Speaker 1: they don't have so many plays the pros can gain
Speaker 1: plan you. So of course if a rookie out there,
Speaker 1: they're gonna play for your rookie tendencies. They're gonna want
Speaker 1: you to jump if you're safety, they're gonna want you
Speaker 1: to jump that indcut, but then that post is going
Speaker 1: to be right behind you. So things like that to
Speaker 1: where they set you up to where you think you
Speaker 1: recognize something, but it's all a ruse, you know. And
Speaker 1: if you look at Kelvin Joseph, he hasn't played that
Speaker 1: much football. You know. He started nine games at Kentucky, right,
Speaker 1: he played eleven at LSU, but he didn't do any starting,
Speaker 1: and judging from his stats, it didn't look like he
Speaker 1: got a heck of a lot of snaps either. So
Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of experience out there. Now
Speaker 1: you might have some talent and it'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: watch him when we get the training camp. But that
Speaker 1: assumption of oh, he's a walking starter. If I read
Speaker 1: that one more time, it's like, you know, watch what's
Speaker 1: going on out there. Coaches, offensive coordinators love rookie dB.
Speaker 1: They just look phone to I'm a victim. I can
Speaker 1: tell you they set you up in all kinds of
Speaker 1: ways to where it takes away from your aggressiveness, and
Speaker 1: if you're not careful, then they would change the way
Speaker 1: that you play. I tried my best not to let
Speaker 1: them change the way that I played. It may have
Speaker 1: something to do with some of the plays that I
Speaker 1: gave up my rookie year, but you have to give
Speaker 1: those up as a rookie because I'm gonna get mine.
Speaker 1: You have to get yours. To me, that's what makes
Speaker 1: the difference. Either you're gonna sit back and not make
Speaker 1: plays they be solid or conservative, or you're going to
Speaker 1: be aggressive and continue being aggressive because you're gonna get beat.
Speaker 1: You're going to get the reason why these quarterbacks you're
Speaker 1: five thousands. But you gotta make so. My other point
Speaker 1: on you know, the season opener, So you want a
Speaker 1: guy that's only really played nine full college games, first
Speaker 1: game to go out there and oh that's Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and oh that's Evans. Oh they got some yeah as
Speaker 1: I am. Yeah. Yeah, So that's going to be an
Speaker 1: interesting one to watch and Bill, as we talked about,
Speaker 1: and we can probably all kick this around when we
Speaker 1: get to training camp. There's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: competition on that defense to kind of figure out who's
Speaker 1: playing and who's not or who's rotating. And that's including linebackers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the defensive tackles. All right, we're just getting started
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Speaker 1: dad passed away yesterday. Uh, and so he he was
Speaker 1: excused obviously he's gonna miss this week. Evidently he had
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Speaker 1: years ago, my dad landed on Omaha Beach um D
Speaker 1: Day two's walk in history, right there bay. He would
Speaker 1: tell the story, and here's how smart our army was.
Speaker 1: They got They were on a big ship to transport
Speaker 1: him uh into Normandy. And though to get from the
Speaker 1: ship to the landing crafts, they had to come down
Speaker 1: these these rope ladders right, and my dad said yeah,
Speaker 1: and he goes. For some reason, they didn't figure out
Speaker 1: that the two ships to two boats aren't moving in
Speaker 1: the water at the same time, right, the same directions,
Speaker 1: and so you're you're swinging and on top of it.
Speaker 1: During their boot camp or whatever they had, they didn't
Speaker 1: teach him how to swim, and my dad couldn't swim,
Speaker 1: and he got dropped off, you know, and they were
Speaker 1: all short of the of the beach line. Yeah, yea drowned. Yeah,
Speaker 1: wherefore they got there? And I saw he had. He
Speaker 1: did a an interview later in age of local newspaper
Speaker 1: were honoring people that landed on Normandy and uh, he
Speaker 1: had never said this, never. They asked him, what was
Speaker 1: the first thing you realize when you got in the water,
Speaker 1: He goes, The guy next to him he got shot,
Speaker 1: And I'm going every time I think about it, I'm
Speaker 1: still the miracle baby that not only did he survive that,
Speaker 1: but also as a prisoner of war. So yeah, but anyway,
Speaker 1: d day two today, So wait wait, wait he was
Speaker 1: a pew oh yeah wow for four months? Well you
Speaker 1: to be oh, I know, yes, absolutely, my goodness, that's
Speaker 1: where I get my toughness. Gotta be from here. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned people don't talk about D Day two.
Speaker 1: G six is D Day, but D Day two two
Speaker 1: days later. And so you know when they when they
Speaker 1: showed up, them bodies were on the beach, that was
Speaker 1: your first you know, uh, you know, first thing you
Speaker 1: saw of a war because you know there wasn't anybody
Speaker 1: to kind of clean things up. No, no, nothing, It's
Speaker 1: basically nothing one day. I mean, so here they are
Speaker 1: trying to get through all that water and everybody's yelling
Speaker 1: at them, keep your guns dry, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: why didn't you get me closer than the beach? Goodness?
Speaker 1: How how was America still here? Oh? That's amazing, it's amazing. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know how we segue from that, but I'll
Speaker 1: throw out the phone number five two two nine seven
Speaker 1: if you'd like to talk football here? What D Day two? Okay?
Speaker 1: You know another another guy that had a nice day
Speaker 1: to day, um Johnny Dixon though yes, free agent wide
Speaker 1: receipt sign a week ago from Ohio State. He was
Speaker 1: wearing We got two people wearing six right white uniform,
Speaker 1: blue uniform. Donovan Wilson, by the way, and Cedric Wilson
Speaker 1: were not practicing I did, okay, so and Don Wilson
Speaker 1: wears number six. Now, yeah, so that's why. Yeah. So anyway,
Speaker 1: this guy, you know, his his last year at Ohio State,
Speaker 1: he was pretty darn good. Um, he didn't get drafted
Speaker 1: and he knocked around probably drafted. Yeah, I'm not sure. Well,
Speaker 1: let me, I'll go back and look at my big
Speaker 1: green notes. Right, I think it was twenty fifteen. I
Speaker 1: think it was the twenty fifteen. You're talking Ohio State,
Speaker 1: you're talking big ten. Yeah, he's gonna get a look
Speaker 1: at They're gonna look at him. He got to go
Speaker 1: to the combine and there was the doubt if there
Speaker 1: was an injury in there, an ACL or something. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. But anyway, you know, he was one of
Speaker 1: those guys that could take the top off the route
Speaker 1: and he did a nice job today. I didn't he like,
Speaker 1: he looked strong, looked like he was agile, like I thought.
Speaker 1: He moved well. And that's kind of the first time
Speaker 1: in the I guess how many practices have we seen
Speaker 1: three or four where it's like, oh, who's sex again?
Speaker 1: Constantly looking at you? Right, yeah, yeah, And when you
Speaker 1: have guys missing, that's your opportunity. Right. There's no Myrie
Speaker 1: Cooper out there, there's no Cedric Wilson out there. There
Speaker 1: was a couple other the wide receivers that are rookie
Speaker 1: free agents that were out there. Semi Fijoko wasn't out there,
Speaker 1: so he got an opportunity day, and I think he
Speaker 1: took advantage. Well, you know, when you think about it,
Speaker 1: I was a free agent, so I had a few choices.
Speaker 1: Three choice I think in New Orleans and Buffalo and
Speaker 1: in Dallas, and Cowboys needed dbs. That's why they signed
Speaker 1: so many of us as rookies. But if I'm what's
Speaker 1: the young man's name, John Dixon. If I'm Johnny Dixon
Speaker 1: and I'm a free agent, why would I come here
Speaker 1: as a wife? That's good question. I mean, I'm just
Speaker 1: asking why would I say same for a running back? Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: you got Pilot, you got of course Zeke. Well he
Speaker 1: doesn't come here with the idea that he's obviously going
Speaker 1: to beat out Michael Gallup or Maari Cooper or Cede Lamb.
Speaker 1: But there are opportunities as from as far as the
Speaker 1: reserves go. I mean, especially when you look at the
Speaker 1: contract situation with Noah Brown. Okay, he's on a one
Speaker 1: year deal and he's free agent. I mean, so he's
Speaker 1: in a contract year. Cedric Wilson's in a contract year.
Speaker 1: You drafted one in the fifth round of a hooko,
Speaker 1: you know, and so there are opportunities. And then even
Speaker 1: as far as starters go, gallops in his contract year himself.
Speaker 1: So I think for someone like Johnny Dixon, this is
Speaker 1: an opportunity. And I don't know, I have to look
Speaker 1: it up. He may have a prior because he's tried
Speaker 1: out with other teams there. He may have a relationship
Speaker 1: with a coach on the staff, maybe even Adam Henry,
Speaker 1: maybe he tried out there before and so and there
Speaker 1: could be a practice squad opportunity and just to get
Speaker 1: his foot in the door and get and get legs
Speaker 1: with an organization maybe because and why not still with
Speaker 1: the couto. Yeah, and so you got a revolving door
Speaker 1: as far as the backup skill. So, and especially when
Speaker 1: you consider what Cedric Wilson do to make this year.
Speaker 1: I mean it was a restricted preistrict so two million,
Speaker 1: two points something million, and Noah Brown is a veteran
Speaker 1: now and so if you get someone at Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: always trying to save some money. Three million dollars count
Speaker 1: found that, Yeah, go ask Atlanta right after signing Julio
Speaker 1: Jones in twenty nineteen to a three year, sixty six
Speaker 1: million dollars extension extension, right, So, which is why they
Speaker 1: had to wait until after June first and trading exactly,
Speaker 1: which is what we talked about last week. And they
Speaker 1: put seven point seven five million of dead money in
Speaker 1: the cap this year and next year it's fifteen and
Speaker 1: a half million in dead money, So why not keeping
Speaker 1: they needed to sign their draft picks this year? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean because he was Gonnaly did not have enough
Speaker 1: money to sign their draft class. He was going to
Speaker 1: count twenty three to give ri the Maddie ice. Then
Speaker 1: he was gonna get he was gonna count. I know
Speaker 1: why they had an opportunity to draft the fourth pick
Speaker 1: in the draft. Ye who would throw the ball to Jones?
Speaker 1: You got the draft pick? Yeah, yeah, he could throw
Speaker 1: the ball. That's what happens when you decide, you know,
Speaker 1: the money is more. And he had injuries last year,
Speaker 1: but it was only the first year he really had
Speaker 1: and he still was playing. Yeah, well, thirty one, thirty two,
Speaker 1: thirty two. So I'm sure that's just another example of
Speaker 1: when you signed these contracts, they're yours, you know, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay dearly to get rid of them. And
Speaker 1: that was the key on the trade was Tennessee was
Speaker 1: the only There were other teams that were interested, but
Speaker 1: they want they didn't want to pay a total salary,
Speaker 1: and so uh, Tennessee was the only one that cut
Speaker 1: him a deal then said Okay, we'll take on a
Speaker 1: salary and sal I would not go to me. Tennessee
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the place I'd go. Well, you gotta go
Speaker 1: where he probably did everyone. Yeah, but everyone's talking about
Speaker 1: the weapons that Tennessee had have enough Tennis. They have
Speaker 1: enough weapons that I know. But they did, they got,
Speaker 1: they know, but they lost the tight end. John U.
Speaker 1: Smith signed with the Patriots, and then their first rank,
Speaker 1: Corey Davis, their wide receiver, went to the Jets. So
Speaker 1: now they've got Julio Jones and A. J. Brown and
Speaker 1: then of course they've got Derrick Henry in the backfield
Speaker 1: and tend the tight end is they signed. They got
Speaker 1: they got Anthony Ferkser who had thirty nine catches last
Speaker 1: year and Jeff Swim and then they've got a bunch
Speaker 1: of street guys. Otherwise, Yeah, I thought they picked somebody
Speaker 1: else and that maybe I'm wrong, but anyway, he ste
Speaker 1: that's what we used to call them, the street guys.
Speaker 1: They're they're out on the street. I thought it was old,
Speaker 1: the old Gil brand. You can find the defensive back
Speaker 1: on White Street, on even Street corner. I thought that
Speaker 1: getting in a taxi taxi squatters his base salary. His
Speaker 1: base salary for this year. It was guaranteed fifteen and
Speaker 1: a half million, so Tennessee had to be able to
Speaker 1: absorb that to make that move. The Cowboys couldn't do that.
Speaker 1: They may have to make a move to get everybody
Speaker 1: else signed by time they go training. But I mean,
Speaker 1: well I'm restructure. Okay, Yeah, that's what I meant. You're
Speaker 1: not talking about a trade. So how many rookie have
Speaker 1: been signed? The most of the class. The third rounders
Speaker 1: get signed. I didn't think the third rounds, the fourth
Speaker 1: rounders and back all got signed. Okay, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: they the third day guys got signed. For that they
Speaker 1: don't impact the cap because those those three guys will
Speaker 1: their salaries will make them top fifty one right now,
Speaker 1: and those those are the only things that count against
Speaker 1: the cap right now. It's the top fifty one salaries.
Speaker 1: And I think the cutoff was like eight hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty thousands something like that, so they would probably get
Speaker 1: end up counting more because of their signing bonuses. All right, Danny,
Speaker 1: in the break, you were talking about the cornerbacks, and
Speaker 1: I want to give you an opportunity to say what
Speaker 1: you're saying to the rest of the masses out what
Speaker 1: was just thinking watching practice. It's early to tell and
Speaker 1: Nishan Wright or Calvin Joseph or you know what this
Speaker 1: young guys will bring to the table. But they seem
Speaker 1: to be trending upwards. You can get a glimpse as
Speaker 1: to the potential that this scouting department, the coaching staff,
Speaker 1: you know, front office saw in these young players. And
Speaker 1: assuming that it continues trending upwards, they have a good
Speaker 1: training camp, you feel better. You will feel better about
Speaker 1: the depth because last year Cheetahbay Woozier, you felt like
Speaker 1: there was a really big drop off between the talent
Speaker 1: and the trust you have between him or maybe who
Speaker 1: might step in and replace him, and the Cowboys lost
Speaker 1: him to free free agency. So now when you have
Speaker 1: these young players and you've seen what they can do
Speaker 1: so far and how they're trending, you feel better about
Speaker 1: it if you have to go between two or three
Speaker 1: guys and your depth is a little more even, right, Like,
Speaker 1: you don't feel like you have to rely on one guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and last year, if you think about it, not only
Speaker 1: did they Woozier early in this season, Anthony Brown got
Speaker 1: hurt too, so they lost him. And then the one
Speaker 1: free agent they signed there all whirling Bottom dial right,
Speaker 1: And see that's the other thing is Trayvon. Okay, Now
Speaker 1: we look at it, and we look at at Kelvin Joseph. Well,
Speaker 1: Trayvon he was drafted like five spots back from where
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph was this year, and he stepped in and
Speaker 1: he was a starter, right, Well, he earned that. Last
Speaker 1: year they had put in place veterans Darryl Whorley had
Speaker 1: started for four or five years in this league. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously his play had fallen off, Okay, and that's why
Speaker 1: he was available at a low price. As it turns out,
Speaker 1: they had signed him. They had Anthony Brown as well,
Speaker 1: and but Trayvon Diggs came in here and he and
Speaker 1: without an off season, came in and they knew going
Speaker 1: into last year, and that's why they had to sign
Speaker 1: a Darryl Worley, just to make sure because we don't
Speaker 1: know what this rookie coming in here, what he's going
Speaker 1: to be able to handle right off the bat, and
Speaker 1: especially without an off season. And Diggs came in here
Speaker 1: and proved not only in the WebEx zoom virtual stuff
Speaker 1: during the off season, but when he got on the
Speaker 1: field that he could handle it. And that's what Kelvin
Speaker 1: Joseph has to do now. He has to prove Otherwise
Speaker 1: they've got options. They could they can play Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: and wait on his development. And they also had had
Speaker 1: brought in, uh, Maurice I believe Maurice canon Nity, who
Speaker 1: is out He opted out and so yeah, so all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it was like, oh, what do we
Speaker 1: got going here? There's another pass us going even worse. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as a rookie having to deal with no pass for us,
Speaker 1: and you know, we're sitting up here criticizing him, you know, wondering, well,
Speaker 1: he shouldn't be better in this and that? Well stuff
Speaker 1: when you don't have anybody coming out to the quarterback
Speaker 1: and putting any pressure down on the consistent basis and
Speaker 1: the other corner, the other corner they're giving a good
Speaker 1: look at. He played a little bit last year, I
Speaker 1: believe Deante Burton. They were using him in the slot
Speaker 1: with like the second unit. So, uh, it'll be interesting
Speaker 1: to and I'm going back to at the competition right
Speaker 1: uh and and and probably no more so than at
Speaker 1: the linebacker position, because I don't think anything set in
Speaker 1: stone at that linebacker. The level of the secondary, and
Speaker 1: that's linebackers dbs, I think the level of the secondary
Speaker 1: is going to be at an extremely high level. I
Speaker 1: think training camp is going to be extremely competitive. You know,
Speaker 1: there's there's going to be a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 1: It's going to be very intense. Okay, I think offensively
Speaker 1: they should be extremely careful going up against these dbs
Speaker 1: and everyone. That's a great tease for our last segment here. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's let's look at training camp battles that we're looking
Speaker 1: forward to when we come back for our final segment
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Speaker 1: what we're doing here. You noticed Danny doesn't have a
Speaker 1: headset on. That's because her headset wasn't working. And so
Speaker 1: we're going with a silent count here. That's tough too.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you I'm Zack Martin. I'm Zack Martin,
Speaker 1: and I'm giving her this, okay, And don't take your
Speaker 1: eye off his butt? Should I tell my dead set story?
Speaker 1: Switzer wrote about it at his book Bootlegger's Boys, So
Speaker 1: I feel like I could go ahead and say it,
Speaker 1: all right, uh talking about headsets that don't work? Okay.
Speaker 1: There's an assistant coach on Switzer's staff at OU, Wendell Mosley,
Speaker 1: great guy, Okay, And in Switzer tells the story he
Speaker 1: had he had. I don't think it was a wife.
Speaker 1: I think it was a girlfriend who he had told
Speaker 1: He told her that she He was the play caller
Speaker 1: for OU. I mean, what plays do you call? You're
Speaker 1: running the wishbone? Yeah. Anyway, so he would wear a
Speaker 1: headset on the sideline during the games and it wouldn't
Speaker 1: be plugged in, and so he had a nickname. He
Speaker 1: called him dead set. Dead Set mostly got is some
Speaker 1: commitment to go, you know, fight through a story to
Speaker 1: that girl. Huh. I hope he commit his line as
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever. All right, this is our final
Speaker 1: segment here, yes of mixed shots, as we we're going
Speaker 1: to preview training camp here. We got two more days
Speaker 1: of the mini camp here, so more to look at
Speaker 1: the next couple of days. But let's preview training camp battles.
Speaker 1: Ever since started talking about it in the last segment,
Speaker 1: Mickey talked about it on the Blitz. As far as
Speaker 1: the defense goes, you think how many people are have
Speaker 1: deadlock cinches to start at a certain position on defense?
Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's DeMarcus Lawrence, Randy Gregory, and Trayvon Diggs.
Speaker 1: Now there's guys that are working with the first team,
Speaker 1: but but knowing that they're going to start at that position. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got Lawrence at one end, you got Gregory at
Speaker 1: the other end, and you got Diggs at one of
Speaker 1: the cornerback spots. And I think everything else. Everybody better
Speaker 1: not miss a practice and they're better not being any
Speaker 1: brother lawing going on on defense. Yeah, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of fights in training camp. You wouldn't add
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson to that list. Uh, you know when they
Speaker 1: ran guys out and I know at this time of year,
Speaker 1: generally they they acquiesced to the more and players go
Speaker 1: out first, right, yeah, right, and then he flamed out.
Speaker 1: But right now, when the safeties go out with the
Speaker 1: first team, even when Donovan was healthy enough to participate
Speaker 1: in the OTA's uh, it's been uh Demante Kaz and
Speaker 1: jay Ron Curse as the first safeties. Wilson was going
Speaker 1: out with the second ones. So I don't know that
Speaker 1: that's set in stone that those are going to be
Speaker 1: your starters. And I thought he did too, and so
Speaker 1: I think there'll be some competition there between the three
Speaker 1: of those guys, and then you know, and who knows
Speaker 1: if if they get a backlog at lightbacker, maybe Kean
Speaker 1: O'Neill goes back to safety. But I think there'll be
Speaker 1: a lot of role playing, like this is our base defense,
Speaker 1: this is nickel, uh, this is dime. Uh, this is
Speaker 1: nickel on first down when they're going three wide. So
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of different combinations
Speaker 1: a guy. But that would be great because last year
Speaker 1: they didn't have enough guys to compensate for different for
Speaker 1: different positions. So yeah, I think there's going to be
Speaker 1: a battle at safety and Danny. We know. I don't
Speaker 1: think the linebacker position is set in stone either. That's
Speaker 1: why that's what I'm most excited to see. I think
Speaker 1: that right now, if you're breaking them down in terms
Speaker 1: of position groups, from what we've seen and what you
Speaker 1: expect to see from these rookies, that might be the
Speaker 1: biggest depth you have right Like you've got Layton Vanners,
Speaker 1: You've got Jalen Smith, but like, how far behind is
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons or jibro Hawks or Kean O'Neil. Like, I
Speaker 1: think it's very compact, and that's what makes me so excited.
Speaker 1: It's like it's not so much like it's up in
Speaker 1: the air. There's a lot of really good players and
Speaker 1: you really don't know who's going to have that starting
Speaker 1: you give up your historic numbers rush wise, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: should be. And going back to the defensive tackle position
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, those positions linebacker, offensive tackle, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be huge. Everyone's gonna have the magnifying glasses on those positions.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about the matchups. If you don't mind
Speaker 1: me doing your job and segueing into the matchups, I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to a couple of speech that's going at it,
Speaker 1: and that's uh, Joseph and Michael Gallop. That should be
Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah, that should be a good speed
Speaker 1: on speed when you're looking at the training camp battles
Speaker 1: that aren't position battles, but they are head to head
Speaker 1: battles training. I'm looking forward to that because you're talking
Speaker 1: speed on speed another one. I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how much work they're gonna have.
Speaker 1: Taygwan going at it, you know, as far as his
Speaker 1: injury is Gonnacern, I'd love to see him in the
Speaker 1: Lawrence h going at it in training camp. That should
Speaker 1: be a nice little battle as well, you know. And
Speaker 1: McCarthy made made something came up about motivation or somebody
Speaker 1: was more motivated, and he said, hey, it's like all
Speaker 1: of us we were six and ten last year. The
Speaker 1: motivation better be there, right, and he goes and he goes,
Speaker 1: it's about everybody, make no bones about it. So his
Speaker 1: point and he said that before because if you think
Speaker 1: about the press conference he had back in March, he
Speaker 1: talked about the number one priority to fix was the defense, right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that the linebacker spot, you know,
Speaker 1: just look at last Thursday. They're they're in a I
Speaker 1: think it was a seven on seven drill, or it
Speaker 1: might have been eleven on seven. Layton Vander esh who
Speaker 1: to me? And you guys can argue with me if
Speaker 1: you want. I think he's the best linebacker on the team.
Speaker 1: We still don't know what Michael Parsons is, but I
Speaker 1: think from history standpoint, Layton Vanders is the best linebacker
Speaker 1: on the team. He missed a lot of time the
Speaker 1: last two years. So there's a pass play on the
Speaker 1: sideline and he lays out in a darn Ota non
Speaker 1: contact and makes a diving interception. Unfortunately, as I told
Speaker 1: Bill when we did the blitz, he landed on the
Speaker 1: football and he knocked the wind. Did right, yes, And
Speaker 1: he's laying there. I'm going, oh, come on, just can't
Speaker 1: be a shoulder and right, but he had knocked the wind.
Speaker 1: But here he was go ahead, yeah, right, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask it. We'll do that. Uh uh. He's diving for
Speaker 1: an interception in OTAs because he knows nothing is secure.
Speaker 1: I want to start, I want to play, and he
Speaker 1: laid out for an interception in a darn Ota. We
Speaker 1: don't have the luxury of saying oh, I could have
Speaker 1: made that, and you know, no one made Jack last.
Speaker 1: And the same thing with with Jalen Smith. You know,
Speaker 1: I think he's under the microscope, definitely under the microscope. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, he might have led the team last year
Speaker 1: and tackles, but there were things in his game that
Speaker 1: he needed to improve. And the thing I've noticed about
Speaker 1: him is he's been more engaged with his teammates than
Speaker 1: I've seen. You know, he's almost acting like a leader,
Speaker 1: going around, you know, fist bumping, slapping guys on the
Speaker 1: on the shoulder, on the helmet, talking a little bit
Speaker 1: more so I think that I'm hoping that means that
Speaker 1: he has a grasp on the defense, because that was
Speaker 1: his issue, right asked you he actually came out of
Speaker 1: admitted and had sometimes you don't know what the heck
Speaker 1: he's doing. And even Kean O'Neill, I mean, you can
Speaker 1: see he's played some football. His instincts they're they're pretty
Speaker 1: played football at a pro bowl level before and then
Speaker 1: Dabill Cox, I don't know how that guy lasted into
Speaker 1: the fourth rod. I've always had a good eye on him.
Speaker 1: He played well all your life. Okay, so knocking so Mickey,
Speaker 1: have you ever had the wind knocked out of you?
Speaker 1: I think the last time had happened was about forty
Speaker 1: years ago when I was playing in a darn softball
Speaker 1: game and I got in a rundown between home plate
Speaker 1: and third base. Okay, just get a mental picture, right, yes,
Speaker 1: get me down because I was faster than anybody. Right.
Speaker 1: So you wearing like a pin stripe where the beggy
Speaker 1: plannel baseball? Yeah, that's why we wore the long leg
Speaker 1: I used to wear those little tho. These flannel things
Speaker 1: are so why do they make you wear these? Anyway,
Speaker 1: I got in a rundown and the guy, the big
Speaker 1: old catcher, right, big old fat but Larry Mondelo guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's like I'm I'm I'm toast right and he
Speaker 1: goes to tag me and I kind of jumped in
Speaker 1: the air and he need me like in the kidney
Speaker 1: right here, and I was like, what the you know,
Speaker 1: old man, I'm sorry, and I screamed at him as no,
Speaker 1: you're not. You did that on purpose. Know how cancers
Speaker 1: are there the dirtiest guys on the on the field,
Speaker 1: you know how they go. So I asked Bill, when's
Speaker 1: the last time he had to win knocked. I don't remember, no,
Speaker 1: I down on the front yard playing football. Probably yep,
Speaker 1: I can't even remember. I'm not that goofy. That's awesome feeling.
Speaker 1: So how many people in the last forty years since
Speaker 1: then have wanted to put their knee and I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. It's a long line. It's a good position there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they goes. So anyway, the linebackers, I love that. I
Speaker 1: want to about you guys, matchups to see but well
Speaker 1: online backers were real quick. That's what you would expect
Speaker 1: from Jalen Smith is to be a leader. If Sean
Speaker 1: Lee's gone and you're the most tenured guy, you know,
Speaker 1: you're in your second contract. That that's what you expect.
Speaker 1: That's what you should be seeing from Jalen Smith. And
Speaker 1: on Lane Vanner as his point when he was asked
Speaker 1: by the media after that practice the die for the interception,
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not gonna, you know, go half speed
Speaker 1: because I'm scared of injuries or hurting myself. He's like,
Speaker 1: that's not gonna make me better. It's not gonna make
Speaker 1: this team better and even said more so than that interception,
Speaker 1: he liked he had a soccer tackle for loss, well
Speaker 1: what would have been And that's what he was more
Speaker 1: proud of than the interception too. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: didn't already know about Lane Varnet, right, like team number
Speaker 1: one leadership, that says it all. And that's the reason
Speaker 1: why you had a practice like you had today, okay,
Speaker 1: where they didn't seem to be doing that much. Right.
Speaker 1: These guys are competitive, and you get them out on
Speaker 1: a field and they're gonna go all out, said boys
Speaker 1: will be Look at the San Francisco forty nine ers
Speaker 1: last week. They lost a safety with an achilles, they
Speaker 1: lost an offensive tackle with an acl Okay, they're they're
Speaker 1: you know, they're on a football field, and so they're
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and play football. And they were two
Speaker 1: teams that half. They have a lot to prove. And
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers had so many injuries last year.
Speaker 1: I mean, they had more injuries than the Cowboys did
Speaker 1: last year. And they've already got a couple there, and
Speaker 1: so that's why you got it this time of the year.
Speaker 1: You got to scale it down and make sure um
Speaker 1: and and they've scaled it down dramatically over these last
Speaker 1: two or three years because before there was contact guy,
Speaker 1: And I never understood you're gonna give somebody a helmet,
Speaker 1: but you're not going to give them shoulder pads, right,
Speaker 1: And guys are gonna die for receptions, they're gonna die
Speaker 1: for interceptions, and you're gonna hurt your shoulder. And I
Speaker 1: never I didn't. I didn't mind the shoulder pads. We
Speaker 1: were one of those teams that just never got a
Speaker 1: break when it came to uniform. But I'd love going
Speaker 1: with the shorts and post the football pans to me,
Speaker 1: but you're always holding your breath with the other stuff
Speaker 1: because once you start competing, and even though there's no contact, man,
Speaker 1: if you're a competitor, you're gonna do what you gotta
Speaker 1: do to catch the ball, right, you're trying to interspire
Speaker 1: them tea. I mean, you saw the collision today, right,
Speaker 1: was it? McKee was, yeah, yeah, And it wasn't like
Speaker 1: bad bad. He means. It was three people, two defenders
Speaker 1: that they're trying to knock the ball out. He's trying
Speaker 1: to catch it, and it's you know, and he got up.
Speaker 1: He wasn't down long. And it reminded me of Sean
Speaker 1: Lee when when he finally tore his ACL that had
Speaker 1: some problems in it. He's in like the first OTA
Speaker 1: practice of the spring and they run a little pitch
Speaker 1: to DeMarco Murray to the right right and Murray's gonna
Speaker 1: cut back and Seawan Lee is gonna plant to come
Speaker 1: back and make the tackle and he blows out his
Speaker 1: knees and it was like he had the surgery and
Speaker 1: it might have been two weeks later or something like that.
Speaker 1: And I ran into the locker room and I looked
Speaker 1: at him and I shook my head and he goes,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, And I said, what are you
Speaker 1: thinking about? It's OTAs just let him go. You're not
Speaker 1: going to tackle him. And Sean Lee goes, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was just trying to do the right thing. And it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's Sean Lee, right, and it's but those things happen,
Speaker 1: so yeah, they I think it's smart to get on
Speaker 1: the field, get everybody together, but back off on how
Speaker 1: competitive you make it, especially with the offensive lineman and
Speaker 1: defensive linemen. They're not proving anything without pads on right,
Speaker 1: You're just kind of touching up and go. But then
Speaker 1: you know, you get a little heated and I got
Speaker 1: I got another one for you okay, you talk about
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph versus Michael Gallup. I want to see Cedee
Speaker 1: Lamb against anybody, you know, I want I want to
Speaker 1: see Cedee Lamb on that field in a second year
Speaker 1: with a fool offseason, you know. And he talked about
Speaker 1: it last week where you know, he didn't you know,
Speaker 1: he was training at home and he's been in so
Speaker 1: he's been in an NFL offseason training program and he
Speaker 1: was as good as he was last year. That making
Speaker 1: that jump from first year to second year. They always
Speaker 1: talk about it. I think he's gonna have a huge year.
Speaker 1: And he looked like a veteran last he did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's always say that. He looked like I mean, think
Speaker 1: about it. That was his first OTA practice, right, because
Speaker 1: they didn't have it last year. Randy Gregory. This is
Speaker 1: probably his first mini camp OTA because he was probably
Speaker 1: after his rookie year. There were suspensions and things, and
Speaker 1: he came in do you come in late? Last year
Speaker 1: he was here, but he couldn't play in the first
Speaker 1: six games. That was part of his suspension. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you're exactly right. These guys are getting things this year.
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, he had a catch last week on Thursday. Unbelievable,
Speaker 1: just unbelievable. It's like, how does he do that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he had another one today that was a pretty
Speaker 1: darn good one that he had to kind of contort
Speaker 1: his body. I think he puts himself into position to
Speaker 1: where he makes these great plays. Yeah, it's too easy
Speaker 1: right now. And you read about his braceless like bracelet
Speaker 1: right he was wearing get your popcorn ready? Yes, I
Speaker 1: did hear that. So I think, you know, you look
Speaker 1: at what he did last year and he only got
Speaker 1: four and a half games with Dak right, and then
Speaker 1: it was like pot luck at quarterback the rest of
Speaker 1: the season. Remember, still broke the rookie receiving record, And
Speaker 1: I still go back to Marie Cooper right the year
Speaker 1: that he had somehow and then the shakedown, the ankle
Speaker 1: breaking that he did at the line of scrimmage still
Speaker 1: to me one of the best moves off the line
Speaker 1: scrimmage I've seen in a long time. You just don't
Speaker 1: see dbs going down like that as if you're going
Speaker 1: against Alan Iverson in a crossover move. That's the kind
Speaker 1: of stuff I like, and that's why Marie Cooper is
Speaker 1: m dude, and I'll tell you who else. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: who else looked good out there? And it's hard because
Speaker 1: running backs, how do you know writing this stuff? Zeke
Speaker 1: looks pretty fast and quick. He looks like he's in
Speaker 1: really great shape too. I was insane. Other matchup, well,
Speaker 1: the two tight ends, and they're not necessarily Blake Jarmon
Speaker 1: DN maybe going against each other, right if they're going
Speaker 1: to do more twelve personnel packages and whatnot. But coming
Speaker 1: off the year that Schultz had filling in for Jarwin
Speaker 1: who missed all season. Towards the first week, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: he proved. I mean he had a rough first two
Speaker 1: games right with like miss blocks, drop passes, but he
Speaker 1: he really shined last year and proved that he can,
Speaker 1: you know, take have a larger role on this team.
Speaker 1: And so that'll I think will be interesting of the
Speaker 1: two of them, and they don't see it as competing
Speaker 1: against each other. I mean, Dalton Schultz was like so
Speaker 1: ecstatic to tell media like, I want Blake Jarring be back.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for him to be back, but I think
Speaker 1: that'll be interesting to see. Yeah, this offense could be
Speaker 1: pretty prolific if they stay healthy. Says the Apostles versus z. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. It's a good one, Okay. And
Speaker 1: then three months from tomorrow, three what happens three months
Speaker 1: from tomorrow, it's uh September ninth. That would be September ninth.
Speaker 1: It would be Thursday night football against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: First play of the game, Buccaneers come out on offense,
Speaker 1: and they they line up Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown as their receivers. So they're going with it
Speaker 1: with their three receivers set. Who who's lining up at
Speaker 1: linebacker for the Cowboys and who's who's who's in their secondary? Okay,
Speaker 1: let's just say their secondary. Who's in the Cowboys secondary?
Speaker 1: First game against um Tampa Bay. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is a good thing or a bad thing.
Speaker 1: But I don't know that I've got a guess because
Speaker 1: I don't think, yeah, we have to guess. You have
Speaker 1: to get us up right now? Have you got to
Speaker 1: get them out on the field right now? They're lining up? Okay,
Speaker 1: who's going out there? You got digs, right, digs? Okay's
Speaker 1: at one corner? You got Joseph Okay, you're going with
Speaker 1: Joseph the rookie at the other corner. Yeah, and they'll
Speaker 1: probably use in the slot. They'll probably use one of
Speaker 1: the Lewis. Jordan Lewis is the st Joan Lewis really
Speaker 1: yeahs will be in the slot. So there's your So
Speaker 1: there's your three. We're talking because they're coming out with
Speaker 1: Antonio bront I mean they've got the three receivers set. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, So there's your three corners. Who are who
Speaker 1: are your safeties? And who are your linebackers. I have
Speaker 1: no idea on the safeties, and I think the linebackers
Speaker 1: will be Vander esh and Michael Parsons, Okay, and then uh,
Speaker 1: you gotta go with something. Let's let's line up Keian
Speaker 1: O'Neil at one safety, okay, and let's put Kaze at
Speaker 1: the other one, all right, okay? And then up front
Speaker 1: then a four man front, and you've got Lawrence and
Speaker 1: Gregory at the ends. And who's your tackles? Go Hannon, Watkins,
Speaker 1: maybe Gallimore or you go brand Urban, you go Watkins,
Speaker 1: you got Hill, you got one of those defensive ends?
Speaker 1: Will move inside? How about like they'm Terrell Basham Terrell basham. Okay,
Speaker 1: I haven't heard Jalen Smith's name mentioned. No, I don't
Speaker 1: think he's on the nickel. Okay, I don't think he
Speaker 1: should have been on the nickel last year. Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Unless they're unless they're unless unless they wanting to start, right,
Speaker 1: they want him to start. You line him up at linebacker,
Speaker 1: and you have Lawrence, Gregory Parsons and whatever tackle you
Speaker 1: want out there on your front. Yeah, because because you
Speaker 1: know DeMarcus Lawrence could rush inside, right, they got some
Speaker 1: defensive ends. Yeah. So on that first play, what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Parsons is coming off the edge. He's getting a sack
Speaker 1: of break. There you go. It's yo, Randy, right, remember
Speaker 1: the old the old uh sit not a sitcom, it
Speaker 1: was actually Parsons is gonna come up the middle. He's
Speaker 1: gonna line up a middle linebacker. He's gonna bletch up
Speaker 1: the middle. He's gonna sack Brady. You remember you remember
Speaker 1: RN ten ten? Yeah? Yeah, you used to yo many. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is thirty years, four years loudly. All right,
Speaker 1: so save that. That's Randy, all right? That does it?
Speaker 1: All right? Yay, enjoy your last couple of days out
Speaker 1: in the heat. Yes, I will kang, I'll be out there.
Speaker 1: You should do one of these bucket hats from the
Speaker 1: pro shop. That's what you need. I do need one,
Speaker 1: you know what you know? Those those those those I
Speaker 1: think you're hard like Safari Safari hits you. You don't
Speaker 1: need one of those. It's it's it was so hot.
Speaker 1: It was so hot in which top Falls. I went
Speaker 1: and wasn't I went and bought one of those, just
Speaker 1: to make a statement. I'm on my ten speed with
Speaker 1: me to Oklahoma. I was in the best shape in
Speaker 1: my yeah, best for the hot and hell hundred it
Speaker 1: was hot. It was hot every day every day, one
Speaker 1: hundred and five to one hundred and ten, and wind
Speaker 1: would blow twenty miles an hour, so it felt like
Speaker 1: you were in a convection of it. And there was
Speaker 1: no shade anywhere where. It was practice field. And for
Speaker 1: those who live outside of Texas, which Stall Falls is
Speaker 1: known in late August for a bicycle race, it's the
Speaker 1: hottern hell hundred and so and God bless people. That
Speaker 1: could right? All right? Does it? For mix shots? And Oxnard, California,
Speaker 1: here we come. How's that? I'm I'm ready and I'm
Speaker 1: hoping there you go, all right, very soon, I'm getting
Speaker 1: ready for the Rams to come a calling too. That's
Speaker 1: right practice there, So we go back in history on
Speaker 1: that one. Right there you go, all right, see you
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