WEBVTT - Mick Shots: The Last Word 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:07.360 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:17.239 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:21.400 screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:26.079 Dallas Cowboys apt Now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:31.880 and Nicky Spagnola, and we are on the air. We're 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:36.520 inside yes, WBC Mortgage Studios here at one Cowboys Way 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:40.559 at the Star in Frisco. We're inside Ford Center at 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:46.800 that Bill Jones with Everson Walls, Danny Sirek, and Mickey Spagnola. Yes, 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.159 the star of our show here. This is Mick Shots. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.080 He heard the show last week and was like, oh, 0:00:53.120 --> 0:01:00.480 I gotta get back in there. I know, let's make 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:06.600 me sure. That's dumping on you man about that's what 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:11.920 happens where you have to make a flight reservation in 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:15.120 the middle of March and not knowing what was going 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.120 to happen in May, and I was counting on not 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.080 going to let us do anything. We're not going to 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.840 be able to go watch anything. I'm getting out of here. 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.640 So you have missed a pessimistic I was at that 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:29.840 time was yeah, yeah, yeah. Doctor Fouci decided you could 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:33.840 be out there and uh, you know, don't. Doesn't it 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:44.280 look like Mickey's glowing right now? That sweat and to 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:47.440 pull back the curtain here, summer has hit all of 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:51.280 us here in Frisco, Texas. It is. It's a it's 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:55.640 Florida muggy out there. Oh, last night was horrible. Last 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.960 night was horrible. Even with one of those clothes. You 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.240 can feel it now to turn your house that doesn't 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:06.600 help it. Yeah, it was seriously so. Because Mickey is 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.280 glowing right now. He's got so much to talk about 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.040 what he just saw on the practice field, and Danny 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.760 does as well. Yeah, but I'm not as I'm not glistening. 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:20.919 How about that? As much as Mickey, you're inside watching, 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.280 I watching and the air conditioning. I was working on 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:30.040 my camp tam. It happened fast. Nice shirt, Yeah, thank 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:34.840 you sir, that's it's my favorite. I was really dressing 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.200 for Cliff. But you know, well, we can't wait to 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.600 hear what happened on the practice field. This, of course, 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:44.040 is day one of the mandatory mini camp for twenty 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.720 twenty one, and they were out on the practice field. 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.520 I was able to watch from a distance. I had 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.040 to get here late because I had I continued to 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:58.160 have plumbing issues at home. And I'll relate it to football. Okay, 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.639 as I told my wife, you're like a coach of 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:05.399 a football team. Okay, you had the rookie quarterback in there, 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.519 he threw four interceptions. Now you got to get a 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.960 veteran in there, and so he got the veteran plumber 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.120 coming to borrow to fix that. That's enough about that, 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.320 all right, nicky. What's there on the field? I saw? 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:23.720 I saw who was participating, who wasn't? Um basically, gosh 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:29.799 who who wasn't participating but could run? I saw George 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:34.120 Teague out there. He's not playing, is no? I think 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:37.800 they they filled up their safety color there are Not 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:39.760 to say George Sea would be desperate, but at what 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:44.840 age George te My question to somebody when I recognized 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.640 I didn't recognize who that was out there, I said, 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.840 who's that? And they said, oh, it's George Teague. He's 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:55.680 watching practice. His beard's white as ever, he's got a 0:03:55.840 --> 0:04:00.440 beard hair. Oh, his hair, his beard turned. His beard 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:02.920 is white. Yeah, does he have full No? No, it's 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:09.920 clapp Okay, look look good looks. So I think the 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:16.599 probably good news is even though that uh Tyrant Smith, 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:21.479 Lele Collins and Zach Martin aren't participating in practice. They're 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.719 doing their rehab. I saw them running and they're running 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.120 full speed, so they look like they're fine. They're just 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:31.000 being very cautious with those guys and they'll be ready 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.880 uh to start training camp. As matter of fact, the 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:38.800 three of them, they were uh tethered to these kind 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:42.280 of metal sleds and they were running and pulling them 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.480 on the on the grass. Uh and they were able 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.840 to do that. So I think that bodes well that 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:51.640 those guys are just fine. That's the reindeer drill. The 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:55.760 reindeer they're pulling the sled very good. I bet that's 0:04:55.800 --> 0:05:00.360 not what they call it. I don't know what ranging 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:08.479 these little things. The other guys running awfully, awfully well. 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:12.840 DeMarcus Lawrence and Tristan Hill full speed sprinting. So they 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.200 didn't practice but uh, and they haven't practiced yet, but 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:19.560 we won't see them until we get to training camp. 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.320 So I thought that was good. I know it was 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.560 part hype, but I saw I think I read something 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.560 about last week that a three linemen are feeling better 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:32.280 than they've ever felt in quite some time doing this 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:38.839 part of the off scenes absolutely, um and Tyran basically said, 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:42.000 this is the best he's felt, and he feels like 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.880 what they did with his neck kind of took care 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.719 of some of the things he was having with his back. Yeah, 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:51.600 because the next connected to the what's that little ryme? 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:57.000 Yeah we got yeah, okay, thanks, but yeah, and and 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.880 and so those guys they're they're good to go. They 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:03.599 are just being very cautious with those Uh. Dak did 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:07.159 everything other than they when they go eleven on eleven 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.480 with a pass rush and he seems to be throwing 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:15.200 the ball just fine. Uh, the guys that of significance 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:19.960 that weren't out there. Uh. Donovan Wilson and Cedric Wilson 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:25.880 both were there watching. Uh Marie Cooper there Washington watching. 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:29.880 You know, Marie's coming back from that offseason surgery. Uh. 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.800 Donovan Wilson and Cedric Wilson both have a little something 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:38.680 going on that from OTAs. So they just basically said, 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:43.840 we don't need to win the season opener in June. So, Uh, 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:48.239 they let those guys kind of hang back. Kelvin Joseph 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:53.040 was back here. Uh he missed last week. Um, Mike 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:56.000 McCarthy said he had to do a ten day quarantine, 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.360 so he must have had contact with somebody that tested positive. 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.440 I thought maybe he was working on another album, an album, 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:07.880 get another rap going on. Yeah, I heard it was excused, 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.800 so that that was good news. And then they had 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.160 some other wide receivers that last week. I think they 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:17.000 were having allergy problems and I think they continue to 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:21.840 do that, uh this week, including Semi Fiahoko u so 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.800 the red. But after that, I think everybody else was 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:29.560 basically out there other than the guys doing rehab and 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:34.760 then Hunter the punter, Uh, nice wander. Uh he's his 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:41.480 wife's having a complicated pregnancy and so he's been excused 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:43.760 to not be here. You know, I haven't really seen 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.200 like Zerline. I hadn't seen him here kicking or anything. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.880 Maybe he kicks on his own. They don't do any 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.000 field goals or anything and any of these drills. So 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.720 but other than that, uh, yeah, the gang was all here. Um. 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.800 So it was of a tone down practice. A lot 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.720 of technique, right Danny, Yeah, and a lot of the 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.360 points I had you touched on it. It didn't feel 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.400 maybe as exciting. Maybe that's because we've seen them practice 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.440 a little more with OTAs, but nothing really I guess 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.560 stood out in a way that surprised me. Good or bad. 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:22.960 I will say, like little things I noted and OTAs. 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.680 I never saw Jalen Smith do the sledge rills, and 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:28.120 I saw him do some of that today, which makes 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.840 me think he's recovering in that risk surgery recovering there. 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.080 I noted the same thing about the three offensive lineman. 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.839 Given we only see so much as the media, but 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.960 it felt like we saw them for the longest amount 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.319 that we have seen them out there working doing a 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.760 little more strength and conditioning. I said, Dak looked good. 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:49.440 You couldn't again tell ankle issues. Dropbacks were good, Passes 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:55.520 were quicked. Nashan Wright has consistently had good coverage in 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.200 the drills. You agree with me there. Yeah, he had 0:08:58.240 --> 0:08:59.880 one play where he kind of got burned by No 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:04.400 Brown today, but he is consistently throughout OTAs, throughout practice day, 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.960 he's looked really good. I think he's around the football. Yeah, 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.640 even though these are non contact thing. Although there was 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:15.240 a significant contact thing that took place. Three guys kind 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.760 of collided and I believe I've believe it was McCann 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.400 kind of it looked like he got somewhat ding. It's 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.480 a it's a bad word to use these days, right, 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:32.040 because that's what's got ding right um. And maybe the 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:39.000 best thing I saw is Randy Gregory was out there 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:43.640 and he looks faster than ever coming off the line 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.200 of scrimmage. He looks like he's gotten a little bigger, 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:50.320 like maybe a little more strength. And he he blew 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.319 off the line of scrimmage on one play and the 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.240 quarterback would have been just annihilated. I don't even think 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:59.199 he got touched. I believe he's going to do one 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:03.640 of the interviews this afternoon, so it'll be good to 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.959 hear from him. And he was having fun, so I 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.160 think that's a really good sign to see him coming 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.839 off one side. Eventually DeMarcus Lawrence on the other side. 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.480 And at one point when they I don't know what 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.360 kind of alignment they were in, but they lined up 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:24.319 Michael Parsons at the right defensive end spot and it 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:28.040 looked like he was shot out of a cannon. He 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.679 would have just again, it would have been the same thing. 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:34.559 He would have annihilated the quarterback because nobody could touch him. 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:40.360 He got off so fast. So those are the best thing. Yeah, 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:45.240 and you know, he got quite a few snaps out there. 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.960 He was playing I think Danny Moore of the young guys. 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.280 A lot of the young guys were getting more kind 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:54.880 of upgraded snaps, maybe almost first team, but they mixed 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:59.839 and matched. And then at the end they called it 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:04.240 team tempo and I'm going, okay, what does team tempo mean? Well, 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:08.920 it was basically team walked through tempo meant we slowed 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:13.520 it down. Yeah, there was no temple whatsoever. So anyway, 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.199 that's kind of what took place. And McCarthy kind of 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:19.959 warned us, he said, this will be very similar to 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.079 what we did in OTA's. The only difference is we 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:27.080 can meet with them longer. So and then the last 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.920 period was basically a meeting on the field. The offense 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.560 was here, the defense was there, and and they were 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:37.400 just doing skeleton type plays and formations. So, you know, 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:41.400 for for a right to be making all of these 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.320 plays and for them to be so noticeable, I can 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.959 understand it. It's just this time of the year. You're 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:48.800 not going to be win anything in June. I get that, 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.920 but you know, that's the talent to be a route 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:57.400 to know where the receivers going to snuff out the 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:03.680 sniff out the direction of the office of patterns. That's 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.280 that's the talent to know where they're going, you know, 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.720 to decipher it and make that play. Yeah, of course 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.959 it's it's just off season. But to be in position 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:14.520 to do that all the time and for it to 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.679 be that noticeable every practice from not just you, but 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.160 from you as well, Yeah, I think that's something that 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.880 you can kind of build on because you know, if 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:24.880 you know what, you know it, you can't unknow it, 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:25.960 you know what I mean, you can't go out there 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:27.719 and dumb it down if you know it. And for 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.400 him to kind of decipher things that will that kind 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.360 of gives me a little a little promise. And you know, 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.440 last Friday for my column, I wrote about the cornerback 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.439 position and basically said, you know, there was seemed to 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:43.880 be this, uh like everybody was just assumption that Trayvon 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.240 Diggs starts at one and Kelvin Joson starts at the other. 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.480 And my point was not so fast because Anthony Brown 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.640 might have something to say about it, right, the veteran. 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.240 The veteran, Yeah, he's been out there working with the 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:00.839 first team with Diggs on the other side. And my 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:04.120 point was, I know Kelvin Joseph, and we'll see what 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.880 happens there, but don't go to sleep on Nashon right. 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.760 And I think we talked about it on the Blitz 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:13.600 on Sunday night, Okay. So that's my question about Kelvin Joseph. 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.559 How important is this time of the year for a 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:20.240 rookie coming in here and he's missed the ten days 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:23.240 that he would have been out here basically on the 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.880 field doing I mean they had four OTAs last week 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:30.760 three three, okay, So he missed last week, right, And 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.440 that was another point in Mike, because you had Memorial 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:37.920 Day weekend the previous week, so that counts. It was 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.559 four days there, and that takes you through Monday, then 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.440 four days I get you to eight days on Friday, 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.000 and then Sunday was his tenth day then. But at 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.600 least he had the rookie Minicamp, which no one had 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:51.880 last year, and had the first week of ot So 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.480 he missed a week of OTA. Yes, and uh uh, 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.120 you know, he looks like he has a physical ability 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.599 to play. Uh And I remembered what you said, he 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.000 what about his hips? Can he turn and he seems 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.679 to be able to do that. Now we'll see what 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:12.199 he can do in coverage. But I think between you know, 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.040 the four of them, they just might have something going there. 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:18.880 Wants to, you know, get the training camp and actually 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.640 see some football. When you when you think about somebody 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.400 like Brown, you know, I was never a big fan 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.920 of his, but just know that he's quick, He's extremely athletic. 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.400 But I just don't think he has the instinct of 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:34.200 a cornerback that grows as he as he gets older 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:37.920 and hopefully has more experience. Plus, if you start, if 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.360 you start changing the culture around here, you know, then 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:44.000 the tip balls, you know, the bad passes, things of 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.320 that nature. He can take advantage of that, but he 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:50.000 has to be shown that. You know, it's once you 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.280 see others do it, then it's just almost like you 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.440 have to fall in line. And I'm hoping that these 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.320 young kids can show some of these older dbs on 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.960 this team just how you're supposed to go out to 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:05.160 the ball. So I was, now, yeah, just being able 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:10.320 to us got that Trayvon's got. He's one of the 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.280 younger guys the way I look at it. But but 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.120 you know, when you got the older guys out there 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.520 who are not used to making plays, and even though 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.960 Brown's not that old, he's not used to making plays 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:23.040 on the ball. They need to be shown an example. 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.320 And that's that's the way we always there. We came 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.520 in eighty one. I wasn't the only one trying to 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:29.920 get interceptions. Michael Down's out there picking stuff up, right 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.400 thenis Thurman's out there picks? Yeah, nine picks in nineteen 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:36.360 eighty one, so Herman Steves that's why they called. But 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.240 that didn't occurred to Lady five. Well, we had already 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.880 led the league three or four times as a team, 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.520 So it's a it's a culture that was created. So 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:48.000 Brown did have a nice break up when they were 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.280 in seven on seven, I think. But I was going 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:54.440 to ask you last week. I wasn't here so looking 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.680 at these rookies, and you may be the worst one 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.360 to ask, since you had eleven interceptions as a rookie. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.320 Was the hard team if you count the playoff playoffs 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.040 and another two in the Pro Bowl. But you know, 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.680 okay was counting, and that was back when the Pro 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:12.200 Bowl wasn't just yeah, I got Chuck Mussey knocked me out. 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.600 What was the toughest part the transition from college to 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.600 the NFL for a cornerback. I think mainly with with 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.200 me that it was a little unique. Was the flex 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.200 defense itself. You know, I was you know, we were 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.000 at Grambling. We didn't even play nickel defense. We didn't 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:29.600 play nickel or dime. You just go out there and 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.720 man up. That was your I got you, that's it. 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.840 That's it. I'm shutting this brothers now of a sudden. 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.240 You know, we always had the zones because you know, 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:40.920 you learned that from high school. You always have the 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.200 zone play, which is easy. But now you got a 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.880 flex a flex zone, which I don't know if you 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.040 knew it, but it's it's a it's a it's a 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.160 horrible defense for the for a defensive back. We were 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.960 the sacrificial lamps. It's made to play against the run. 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.440 So it was it was made to defend. You remember 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:02.320 the quarterback pass that was a that was a pass 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.679 pattern that was called a quarterback pass. That's when they 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:09.400 just had standard personnel, two backs to one tight end, 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.720 two wide receivers. Well tight end would do a drag 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:15.359 across on the play action pass. Here comes the wide 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.320 receiver or the wing back, he's going inside as well 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:22.840 the weak side. Michael Gallop, he's going deep posts. That's 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.480 the quarterback pass. Everybody ran it. They did it for 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:30.600 thirty forty years. So that's what we had to learn. 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:35.520 That defense was made by Tom Landry to stop Jim Brown, 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.440 but also to stop the pass that comes off of 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.600 that play action. They don't do that anymore. But we 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:45.720 had to read the flow of the backs and you 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:49.080 go from zone to man to man, but depending on 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:51.199 the floor of the backs. Now you telling me what defense, 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.840 what defense can read that, what rookie can read that. 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:59.560 I have to read the backside flow from zone that 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.960 could take me to a man to man. I mean, 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.400 like I got help. Now I'm help. Before the ball 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.040 snapped all of a sudden, they go flow strong to 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.400 the tight end. Now I'm man to man by myself. 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:14.240 Nowhere to be found is any help. That was a 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:18.240 difficult part coming in as a rookie because our system 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:22.280 was so unique under Tom Landry. Other than just the 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:27.240 regular man on man and challenge that you had to 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.480 have was it was just all about trying to get 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:34.800 through the numbers five rookie dB SO and I think 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.840 last year even with digs. I think we saw there 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:41.120 were times he didn't read it right. There were times 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:43.480 I don't know if he was in the right coverage, 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.719 and there were times he got caught looking looking inside. Well, 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:49.960 the main thing you always have is being a little 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:55.439 bit too aggressive, because the pros play on that. In college, 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.160 they don't have so many plays the pros can gain 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.880 plan you. So of course if a rookie out there, 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:04.280 they're gonna play for your rookie tendencies. They're gonna want 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.480 you to jump if you're safety, they're gonna want you 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.800 to jump that indcut, but then that post is going 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:11.879 to be right behind you. So things like that to 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:13.920 where they set you up to where you think you 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:16.960 recognize something, but it's all a ruse, you know. And 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.680 if you look at Kelvin Joseph, he hasn't played that 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:23.479 much football. You know. He started nine games at Kentucky, right, 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:30.480 he played eleven at LSU, but he didn't do any starting, 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.200 and judging from his stats, it didn't look like he 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.639 got a heck of a lot of snaps either. So 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.239 you don't have a lot of experience out there. Now 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.680 you might have some talent and it'll be interesting to 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:43.040 watch him when we get the training camp. But that 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:46.280 assumption of oh, he's a walking starter. If I read 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.040 that one more time, it's like, you know, watch what's 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:54.640 going on out there. Coaches, offensive coordinators love rookie dB. 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.560 They just look phone to I'm a victim. I can 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.480 tell you they set you up in all kinds of 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:05.159 ways to where it takes away from your aggressiveness, and 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.600 if you're not careful, then they would change the way 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.679 that you play. I tried my best not to let 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.280 them change the way that I played. It may have 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:14.720 something to do with some of the plays that I 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.600 gave up my rookie year, but you have to give 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.600 those up as a rookie because I'm gonna get mine. 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:22.760 You have to get yours. To me, that's what makes 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:25.040 the difference. Either you're gonna sit back and not make 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.800 plays they be solid or conservative, or you're going to 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:32.720 be aggressive and continue being aggressive because you're gonna get beat. 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.640 You're going to get the reason why these quarterbacks you're 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:40.800 five thousands. But you gotta make so. My other point 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:43.680 on you know, the season opener, So you want a 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:48.960 guy that's only really played nine full college games, first 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:51.919 game to go out there and oh that's Tom Brady 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:58.480 and oh that's Evans. Oh they got some yeah as 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.959 I am. Yeah. Yeah, So that's going to be an 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:04.480 interesting one to watch and Bill, as we talked about, 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:08.159 and we can probably all kick this around when we 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:10.040 get to training camp. There's gonna be a lot of 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:14.160 competition on that defense to kind of figure out who's 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:18.600 playing and who's not or who's rotating. And that's including linebackers. Yeah, 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:23.399 and the defensive tackles. All right, we're just getting started 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:25.840 on this edition of mix Shot. 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