1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: This is WSV the sOliver Bowls Friday News Broadcast. My 2 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: name is Ty Hildebrand. My co host is Dan Rubinstein. 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: You give us a download, we will give you the world. 4 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: Today's show brought to you by play Runtheboard dot Com. 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: Compete all season long against the entire verbaler hood for 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: a chance to sit on our Board of Trustees. Yeah. 7 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: The deadline to enter is this Saturday, September fourth, at 8 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: eleven fifty nine am Eastern Time before the first kickoff. 9 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: Get in now, it's a Pickham game. You pick ten 10 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: games a week. At the end of the year, we're 11 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: gonna pick the top five finishers and hand them seats 12 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: and are a vaunted board of trustees. 13 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: What does it mean? Unclear? Unclear. We are going to 14 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: be held to account by you, potential board of trustee member, 15 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: potential trustee, and there are weekly there's all sorts of 16 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: things happening. But it's going to be an incredible time 17 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: for you to compete against certified and premium verballers internationally. Right, 18 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: this is we're opening this up to international competition. 19 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: But at this hour. Three things to know, Dan, I'm 20 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: giving you a raise, Texas A and m has re 21 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: upped and recommitted to Jimbo Fisher, also player coach at 22 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: South Carolina, with Zeb Nolan going from graduate assistant to 23 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: now the starting quarterback of the Game Cocks, as well 24 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: as some other moves around college football. And finally, by 25 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: the numbers, we'll talk to Bill Connolly from ESPN dot com. 26 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: Bill c is on your side talking through the esp 27 00:01:54,640 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: plus and what's some key additions or subtractions from your 28 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: favorite college football teams might mean as we move forward 29 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: into this first full week of college football. But Dan, 30 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: we start at the top. Texas A and M has 31 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: re upped with Jimbo Fisher. They've extended his deal for 32 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: three additional years. This contract replaces the ten year, seventy 33 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: five million dollar contract he signed just a few short 34 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: years ago. This one is for a little bit more. 35 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: He'll be making on average about nine and a half 36 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: million dollars per season, so it's a full commitment to 37 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher. They like where things stand under his tutelage. 38 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: Per our friends over at twenty four to seven sports, 39 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: Texas A and M has the eighth most talented roster 40 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: in all of America. Dan, good move bad move over 41 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: the top. Move for Texas. A and M. Where do 42 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: we stand on this? 43 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: Not my money, not my money, Do whatever you want 44 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: which is worth what somebody is willing to pay him 45 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: or her. So here my general thought is, we haven't 46 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: seen the fine print in this contract. And a lot 47 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: of times coaches will sign these extensions to guarantee a 48 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: raise for assistance or the assistant pool, or additions to 49 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: facilities or the athletic department as a whole, to get 50 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: all of those things down on paper. 51 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: From A and M's. 52 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: Perspective, recruiting and winning and the general position of their program, 53 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: in large part due to the last couple of years 54 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: of Jimbo Fisher is in a great place. So I 55 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: don't fault somebody for being excited about their coach. It's 56 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: a much more justifiable extension given that A and M 57 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: was on the edge on the precipice of the college 58 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: Football Playoff last year. So in terms of trajectory, it's 59 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 2: a show of confidence. He was already making a ton 60 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: of money. But yeah, in a world in which you 61 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: do need to sort of show recruits, show their families 62 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: that you have all the confidences in the future of 63 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: the program, that it's ten years and what like ninety 64 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: four million dollars ninety remaining. Yeah, that's Jarrett Allen money. Ty, 65 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: that's pretty good NBA Center money. So I get it. 66 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: I would be curious to see the you know, the 67 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: escalating and the descending buyout numbers over the course of 68 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: the years and the dates thereof. But no, it's I 69 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: don't know that they were competing with anybody for Jimbo 70 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: Fisher's services. But as we've seen, he's not afraid to 71 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: look around, So I get it. 72 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: I get it. 73 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: It's show of confidence and it's not my money, so 74 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: I guess good form. If they're feeling good, I'm feeling good. 75 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher twenty six and ten in his short time 76 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: now at Texas A and M. But that includes nine 77 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: in one last year in the COVID year, where as 78 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: he said, they were on the precipice of making the 79 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: College Football Playoff. They have to like where they're at. 80 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: We knew that it was going to take a little 81 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: bit to build the momentum to get his guys in 82 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: there and start to move things forward. But I think 83 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: we have come to understand that Jimbo Fisher brings with 84 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: him from Florida State, a ton of credibility, having been 85 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: there before and having built a really successful program, maybe 86 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: petered out towards the end. Perhaps that's why he left. 87 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: But Texas A and M is definitely in a better 88 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: spot now than it was when he took over that operation. 89 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: And I like the move. I like the move, especially 90 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: in an SEC that has driven itself crazy in the 91 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: Nick Saban era. Everyone trying to better Alabama. A and 92 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: M might be the next closest as we look forward 93 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: into twenty one in the SEC West, So we'll see. 94 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: But I think a good move to retain his services, 95 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: a better move given the fact that it's not our money. 96 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: And fascinating to see he will finally have his quarterback 97 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: this year. This you know, he didn't recruit Callen Mond, 98 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: And this is, you know, a true turning of the 99 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: page in terms of the Jimbo era. And you know, 100 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 2: I'm going through the same thing. Mario Cristobal has tied 101 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: himself to a quarterback of the future at this point 102 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 2: now a few years in. And the other thing I 103 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: was going to mention and was I think A and 104 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: M brass A and M fans the A and M 105 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: universe has gotten used to a certain lifestyle. They are 106 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: currently an SEC power ty. If you started flying private 107 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: everywhere and somebody was like, do you want to fly 108 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: business class, You're like, I just don't know if that's 109 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: who I am anymore. And so A and M went 110 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: nine and one and finish what fifth or sixth? And 111 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: that's who they want to be all the time now, 112 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 2: And so they're they're they're dotting every lowercase jay to do. 113 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: So I get it. 114 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. And the other thing, the other factor to consider 115 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: is now with Texas and Oklahoma coming into the SEC, 116 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: the pressure will be ratcheted up even more to have 117 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: a stable coaching situation and continue any momentum that you've 118 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: had pre the entry of those two rivals. So I 119 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: like the move from the standpoint of establishing continuity, from 120 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: the standpoint of sicking what's with what's been working for you. 121 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: It's a lot of money, but that's just where we're 122 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: at in college football. The money is not going to 123 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: go south anytime soon. In other news around college football, 124 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: former South Carolina graduate assistant, former backup at North Dakota State, 125 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: former backup at Iowa State, zeb Noland has decided to 126 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: exercise his sixth year of NCAA eligibility and is expected 127 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: to start for the South Carolina game Cocks at least 128 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: in Week one. We'll see where things go from there. 129 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: South Carolina had the injury, the football injury to Luke Dodie, 130 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: who was expected to be their starting quarterback, and they 131 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: were a bit in alert trying to find the next 132 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: guy up. It turns out zeb Noland is that guy. 133 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: A great story around college football one I'm sure every announcer, 134 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure every broadcaster will be sure to discuss on 135 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: the broadcast. But zeb Noland wasn't particularly lighting the world 136 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: on fire in his time as quarterback, but nonetheless has 137 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: proven that he is Division IE and FBS capable. And 138 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: so here we are with mister Nolan being the starter 139 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: for South Carolina. 140 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, in twenty eighteen, he was not that good for 141 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: Iowa State, though he did have a good game against 142 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: Oklahoma that was just down games against what appears to 143 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: be TCU and it just it wasn't it wasn't great. 144 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: And then twenty seventeen he barely played, but he he 145 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: played against Oklahoma State and Baylor and was pretty good 146 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: against Oklahoma State but did throw pick and not as 147 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: good downfield against Baylor, but that was, you know whatever, 148 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: it was a different time. And then he was Trey 149 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: Lance's backup last year. So an FCS backup last year. 150 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: I suspect he will be only okay, but a weird, 151 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: crazy story nonetheless, and Ty, here's your added value. The 152 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: name zeb can be short for Zebediah, Zebede or Zebulon. 153 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: I like Zebulon. I don't know if that's the real answer. 154 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: I pray that South Carolina is starting zeb On Nolan, 155 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: that's all. 156 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: That would be tremendous. So Luke Dodie I believe was 157 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: a converted wide out and part of what they liked 158 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: about him at the position was his athleticism. It's a 159 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: different story altogether with zeb Noland. He did play a 160 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: little bit for North Dakota State. He played with a 161 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: depleted roster of guys who had gone to the NFL, 162 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: guys who had opted out because of COVID. So his 163 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: expertise at the quarterback position is something we will soon 164 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: come to know as he will play against some teams 165 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: in the SEC. But definitely a story to follow, an 166 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: interesting story that I would expect we will hear much 167 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: much more about here in the coming days and weeks. 168 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: Luke Dodi, by the way, the number four dual threat 169 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: quarterback coming in to a four star coming into South Carolina, 170 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: so may have been moved around stuff to take advantage. 171 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,599 Speaker 2: But yeah, I came in as a quarterback. Has a 172 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: very unique skill set for sure. And with that, let's 173 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: send it up to tie in the sky. 174 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm up here in the shopper Dan. Traffic already starting 175 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: to back up. We're not even to the weekend. We've 176 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: got Cruz still on the scene of a fender bender 177 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis last night. Stay away from that. Looks like 178 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: a NonStop week of games, though, if you have to 179 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: use the roads, if you have to get out there 180 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: and do anything like a normal human, Saturday morning is 181 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: probably your best chance to get out there. You could 182 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: chance it later in the afternoon, but with all the action, 183 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: you may not make it home in time to see 184 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: a photo finish. Allow some extra travel time. Make sure 185 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: you're at home in time for that big Clempson Georgia 186 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: game at seven point thirty on Saturday night. Not going 187 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: to be too hot out there, so you're only gonna 188 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: be sweating this one out. If you're worried about the 189 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: Tigers winning without Tyler Davis or Justin Ross or Nolan. 190 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 4: Turner rumoredly, rumoredly. 191 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: Back to you in the studio, Dan, are you Are. 192 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: You dry where you are right there? 193 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: Those crazy moisture, wetness, rain, downpours, hurricane like conditions. 194 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: Is everything all right by you? 195 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: We're okay, We're okay. Yeah, we're good. 196 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: We're good, okay, just making sure. 197 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: I think this is the point in which we say 198 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: it's time for Bill C on your side. We all 199 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: need people willing to stand beside us and on WSV. 200 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: Bill Connolly is here because Bill C is on your side. 201 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: Bill CONNOLLYESPN dot Com, ESPN, just in general all over 202 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: the place, of course, you know sp plus and he 203 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: works all year long. This is not he doesn't parachute 204 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: in for September. The man grinds it out because again, 205 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: he is on your side. 206 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 3: Bill C. How you doing. 207 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 4: I'm pretty good. I'm ready. I've officially reached that mental state. 208 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 4: There a lot of things I'm not ready about over 209 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: the coming months, but that's this is one of the 210 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 4: things I'm ready for. 211 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 3: I like it all right. 212 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: So you have one of the things that's interesting is 213 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 2: because you're at ESPN, you have access to more data 214 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: than ever before. You told us that the last time 215 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: you were on. So does that mean that you are 216 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: able to I don't know if it's more accurately, but 217 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: more specifically and in a more detailed way add to 218 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: what and how sp plus calculates all year long. 219 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 4: I haven't. Sp plus remains's kind of its own thing 220 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 4: with its own inputs. I think the biggest thing that 221 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 4: I've found with having the you know, the dashboards and 222 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 4: whatnot that we have ESPN, I've been able to I 223 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: have more tools for description and that's been super fun. 224 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 4: Finally getting snackcout data for instance, that part that actually 225 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 4: part is part of the returning production formula now, which 226 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 4: is new. But otherwise, yeah, it's more. It's been more 227 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 4: just like being able to dig deeper and deeper into 228 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 4: you know, this team passes the ball really efficiently why, 229 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 4: and being able to kind of differentiate between one good 230 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 4: team and another good team and stuff like that. So 231 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 4: that's always fun because at some level, every single team 232 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 4: in the country is unique, and it's really fun finding 233 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 4: the ways that each team is unique. 234 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: Is there that team that you can specifically remember as 235 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: you look through have you pour over everything that you're like, wow, 236 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: that is interesting with either with or be not because 237 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: of more data, but just because there are there are 238 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: more doors open that you can sort of paint a 239 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: fuller picture. Is that a team that you've enjoyed seeing 240 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: that fuller picture for. 241 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 4: One of the things that I had fun with. I 242 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 4: did this for a few quarterbacks, I guess. But graham 243 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 4: ERT's last year, now, making anything of graham Ertz is 244 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 4: super weird season where you know, he comes out and 245 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 4: completes whatever it wasn't a first game twenty of twenty 246 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 4: one or something like that, and then all the receivers 247 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 4: go away and he's terrible for about a month and 248 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: then it gets better at the end of the year. Like, 249 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 4: it's hard to know what to take away from twenty 250 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 4: twenty as a whole for him, but it was what 251 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 4: was fun was looking at his you know, just like 252 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: the grid past charts of where he went with the ball, 253 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 4: you could very easily piece together like he's looking short 254 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 4: into the right as he's doing his drop back and 255 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 4: then if that doesn't work here, but you know, we 256 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: probably things probably go awry from that point. But you 257 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 4: could almost kind of see just the way things were 258 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: lunched and whatnot. You know, you've got a very good 259 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 4: read on what he was trying to do or what 260 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 4: Wisconsin was trying to do. And you know, again, whether 261 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: that says anything for twenty twenty one, we'll find out. 262 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 4: But it was kind of neat just being able to 263 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 4: look graphically and figure out tendencies like that, what. 264 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: In terms of this weekend's specific matchups. So you obviously 265 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: s P plus makes predictions by the way, I like 266 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: the idea, and this is true of any formula that 267 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: like you've come up with as something you are tweaking 268 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: something every year, but it's not like you can fully 269 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: explain why and how your formula does what it does. 270 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: Were you're just like, don't ask me, ask the algorithm, 271 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: ask the formula. So was there anything that jumped out 272 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: to you in any sort of surprising way as sp 273 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: plus calculated some predictions. 274 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, whenever possible, I try to at least understand what 275 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 4: it's seen, even if I don't agree with it. And 276 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 4: one of the things, one of the things that is 277 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 4: certainly harder to agree with on this week's projections that 278 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 4: would probably be Alabama by nine over Miami or nine 279 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: point nine sorry, get it right. Yep. That's one of 280 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 4: the biggest disagreements of the week between the spread, which 281 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 4: is which has been around like nineteen and a half, 282 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 4: which is amazing because we're all just like, well, Alabama's 283 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 4: going to cover that, but like, Miami's a borderline top 284 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: ten team this year and we're still just assuming Alabama 285 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 4: beats them by three touchdowns or whatever. And you know, 286 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 4: we have evidence for that as well. But that one's 287 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 4: been pretty tricky and I think, I mean the major 288 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 4: things it sees out in Miami specifically, I mean, Alabama 289 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 4: is still projected number one, so it's like it's underestimating them. 290 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 4: This is a really, really interesting Miami team. They have 291 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 4: been good historically on defense. They slid at the very 292 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 4: end of last year. They just need to run out 293 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 4: of gas the last two to three games of the year, 294 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 4: especially on defense. But this is a team that was 295 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 4: extremely explosive as a team that was still very very 296 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 4: good defending the past. They couldn't offend the run, but 297 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 4: they still you know, they do a lot of the 298 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 4: big things you're supposed to do to be a good 299 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 4: college football team, and they are now third in special 300 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 4: teams last year, which was a dramatic change from a 301 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: couple of years ago. So they do a lot right, 302 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 4: and they return almost everybody from last year. And you know, 303 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 4: I don't want to over to state the importance of 304 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 4: this game. I mean, really, it's just survive Alabama had 305 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 4: then move on to the winnable part of your schedule. 306 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: But why couldn't they challenge Alabama for at least a 307 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 4: little bit here with you know, they might have the 308 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 4: better quarterback in the game, at least to start the season. 309 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 4: Bryceton was gonna be amazing, but maybe, you know, maybe 310 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 4: not out of the gates, especially against the Miami team 311 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 4: that's gonna pssure him more than he's ever really been 312 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 4: pressured before. So why not Miami? Why why wouldn't they 313 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 4: be able to hang out and make this a pretty 314 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 4: fun game for while I hope they do. I you know, 315 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 4: it'd be super fun to follow a top ten Miami 316 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 4: team and be able to write about that for once 317 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 4: they're top five even, but it's probably pushing it. But 318 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 4: I'm really curious what they're capable of. I'm also really 319 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 4: curious when UCLA is capable of because my numbers love UCLA. 320 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to go there next. Actually, Ucla, according 321 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: to your numbers, wins the game outright thirty two to 322 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: thirty one over LSU. So a number of factors here, 323 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: and I guess maybe we could talk about how the 324 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: SP plus would would factor some of that stuff in 325 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: or not factor some of that stuff in. We have 326 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: a situation where LSU is traveling west. They're on the road, 327 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: there are three and a half point dog depends where 328 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: you look. They are also in a unique situation where 329 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: they basically had to pick up shop and go to 330 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: Houston to avoid Hurricane Ida, which I'm assuming your formula 331 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: is not going to cake into account. But talk us 332 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 1: through what the SP plus he's in a game like this, 333 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: which is one that frankly, Dan and I had a 334 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: lot of trouble sussing out. 335 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, let's use a mystery, like the biggest 336 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 4: mystery in the country this year, just in that, like 337 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 4: they could really go six and six or twelve and oh, 338 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 4: and I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. You know, 339 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 4: the warning if it's on the sixth and sixth side, 340 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 4: you know last year was just warning signs that coordinators 341 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 4: alone couldn't fix. You know, maybe that you know, everything 342 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 4: goes in that direction, and the new plan, now that 343 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 4: all that record setting talent in tween nineteen is gone, 344 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 4: maybe the new plan is not all that good. But doubtful, 345 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 4: doubt you know, it's still unlikely they go six and six. 346 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 4: But on the flip side of that, you know, the 347 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 4: talent is ridiculous and boute and maybe Max Johnson's ready 348 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 4: to be the number one quarterback and all this talent 349 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 4: that you look on top to bottom, you know, if 350 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 4: they're ten and two, twelve or whatever kind of makes sense. 351 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 4: They got the talent for it and the recent history 352 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 4: for it, besides the super weird COVID year. But SPPLUS 353 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 4: is just gonna put the difference right. They were I 354 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 4: think forty fifth last year, as a been saying, worst 355 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 4: title defense since Notre Dame in nineteen fifty, and they're 356 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 4: projected twenty six. Yeah, sorry, sorry for the Notre Dame, 357 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 4: but yeah, they're projected twenty six, which basically splits the 358 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: difference between first and fiftieth. And that kind of makes 359 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: sense in my head. But UCLA, you know, this is 360 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: all about experience. For UCLA, they did improve, they were 361 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 4: top fifty last year forty six, then sp plus they 362 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 4: went one in four and one score games. They should 363 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: have had a better record than they did. And then 364 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 4: they returned almost literally everyone from last season and one 365 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 4: of the only guys they lost was Dementric Felton, who 366 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 4: is backup last year. Britain Brown was better, Briton Brown 367 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 4: looked great last week, Zach Sharboney looked great last week. 368 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 4: They really do seem to have just about everything they 369 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 4: need to be whatever Chip Kelly can be in twenty 370 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 4: twenty one. I don't know if that's top thirty team, 371 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 4: if that's top fifteen team, whatever it is, but they're 372 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 4: never going to be more experienced than this and they've 373 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: got a lot of upside and Dorian Thompson Robinson still 374 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 4: scares the hell out of me at pretty much all times. 375 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: Every past he throws is like thirty times more urgent 376 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: than it really needs to be, and that, you know, 377 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: that's why they're probably an underdog on Saturday. But they've 378 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 4: got a lot to offer this year, especially in one game. 379 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 4: The defense looked really good being more aggressive last week 380 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 4: with Hawaii, but it looked good in an aggressive mode. Yeah, 381 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 4: so yeah, why not Ucla. Why not Miami? Why not Ucla? 382 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: Well? And one final question on that game, LSU was 383 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: horrible against the run last year, and you know how 384 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: much of that translates? How much does any of last 385 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: year translate? How did you how did you grapple with 386 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: that issue when putting your numbers together for twenty one here, 387 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: because it's just it seems like such a mystery unto itself. 388 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: How much do we wait what we saw in twenty twenty? 389 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, LSU fan say twenty twenty didn't count at all. 390 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 4: I've heard that all But. 391 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: The same for Oregon, by the way, just to be clear, 392 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: even though they won the conference, to talk happened, I. 393 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 4: Mean, maybe it doesn't. Like I'm not convinced. I'm always 394 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 4: of the opinion that, you know, just as I've always 395 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 4: said that we can learn about a decent amount about 396 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 4: a team playing, you know, a cupcake or an FCS 397 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 4: team or whatever. I think we learned a lot more 398 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 4: about teams last year than maybe the fans of unsuccessful 399 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 4: teams would suggest. But one of the things I did 400 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 4: for the final projections that I put out a couple 401 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 4: of weeks ago was I didn't think about this a lot. 402 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 4: Like the idea of adjusting the biggest component of preseason 403 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 4: projections is taking last year's as people us writing and 404 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 4: adjusting it for returning production up or down basically based 405 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 4: on how much you return, And the thought of doing 406 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 4: that for thirteen game Alabama and three game Ohio just 407 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 4: didn't really compute all that well to me. So I 408 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 4: basically created like a sliding scale where if you played 409 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 4: a lot of games like Alabama and I mean LS 410 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 4: you played ten games, so that kind of that's mostly 411 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 4: full season, even if there are a lot of injuries 412 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 4: and whatnot. If you played a lot of games, then 413 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 4: it basically the projection machine runs as normal. But if 414 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 4: you played three, four or five, whatever, then it was 415 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 4: more based on like the five year history and the 416 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 4: recruiting numbers and some of those overall program health components 417 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: instead of specifically what you did last year. So LSU, yeah, 418 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 4: they had injuries, but a lot of guys who they're 419 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 4: going to be counting on this year played a lot 420 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 4: last year too, So I don't think it's like out 421 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 4: of the realm of possibility that they might really only 422 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 4: be a mid twenties team this year. We just have 423 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 4: to We just have to see. But for like the 424 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 4: Arizona States of the world. Yeah, it's I don't know 425 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 4: that we earned a single thing. I hope we did 426 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 4: because Arizona State was crazy last year and they could 427 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 4: quite possibly be the most chaotic team in the country. 428 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 4: But but we don't know. Yeah, we barely saw. 429 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: The big game of the weekend takes place in Charlotte 430 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: Saturday evening. You've got per the sp plus Clemson winning 431 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: by a twenty eight to twenty five score over Georgia. 432 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: At time of recording. There have been some rumors that 433 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: perhaps Tyler Davis along that Clemson defensive line might be 434 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: out with COVID issues. Have not seen confirmation on that. 435 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: But I guess the two part question, First and foremost, 436 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: what does the sp plus see relative to that game? 437 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: Why does it like Clemson a little bit more? And secondly, 438 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: how much would the loss of a big player like 439 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: a Tyler Davis swing the outcome? Again per the sp 440 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: plus in either direction. 441 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I can't even pretend to worry about the 442 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 4: Clemtant defensive line. I realized. I mean, he is one 443 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 4: of the more veteran players on that team. But they 444 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 4: just have, like of all the areas where you can 445 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 4: afford to lose a guy the Clemson defensive line is 446 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 4: pretty much said I think, so I'm not going to 447 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 4: take that too much into consideration. If I removed him 448 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 4: from the projections, it would maybe change the game by 449 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 4: like by point one or something like that. So I 450 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 4: think basically where Clemson has the advantage still on Georgia 451 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 4: is more than anything else, just recent offensive history. Right, 452 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 4: I'm looking at their projection like by unit that Clinston's 453 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 4: projected fifth on offense and fourth on defense. Georgia is 454 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 4: projected fifth on defense but sixteenth on offense. So, like 455 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 4: everything else, like every single piece I wrote this entire offseason, 456 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 4: it basically comes down to can you trust a four 457 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 4: game sample that we saw from J. T. Daniels last 458 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 4: year and if you can, and I mean Joe Burrow 459 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 4: hinted at what he was going to do in twenty nineteen, 460 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 4: he was phenomenal last four games in twenty eighteen, And 461 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: just like we were just discounted JK. Daniels numbers for 462 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 4: the fact that he only played really one good defense 463 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 4: in those four, Burrow only played one good defense in 464 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 4: those four as well, and it did end up being 465 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 4: kind of predictive sometimes it is, and obviously Daniels is 466 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 4: going to need healthy receivers to throw too. That seems 467 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 4: to be a little bit as you right now. But 468 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: if that was you know, what we saw from them 469 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 4: last year, being able to actually use the whole field 470 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 4: in the passing game. If that's real, then I mean 471 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 4: they could be artificially low and sp plus just because 472 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 4: it was such a small sample. So I am very 473 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 4: I'm excited that they're playing this game because I'm tired 474 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 4: of speculating about freaking Georgia. I've been doing it all 475 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 4: off season. I'm ready to find out if they're actually 476 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 4: going to be really good and they don't have to win, 477 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 4: but Clemson actually kind of needs to win this game 478 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 4: more I think. But you know, I'm just excited to find. 479 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 2: Out, as you sort of alluded to with Bryce Young that, 480 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: like you think he's eventually going to be really good, 481 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: he appears to be really good, but maybe he won't 482 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: be really good in his first start against. 483 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 3: What we believe to be at least a pretty good defense. 484 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: I'm curious if you have noticed anything early on in 485 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 2: seasons that certain sides of the ball, certain types of 486 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 2: plays is there anything that comes to define the first 487 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: couple weeks of a year before things sort of go 488 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 2: back to expectations or things become what they are. Is 489 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: there is there something weird about the first couple of 490 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: weeks that you're like, it's skewed with this, it's not 491 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 2: skewed with that kind of thing. 492 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, if you think about things in terms 493 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 4: of a projection system, like as people us, I mean, 494 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 4: it's not going to know like within a three four 495 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 4: five games, we're gonna basically know what we need to know. 496 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 4: But right it's gonna be wrong out of the gates 497 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 4: about some teams. And you know, I just think back 498 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 4: to like J. T. Barrett Ohio State, his red shirt 499 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 4: freshman year where he had that horrific game against Virginia 500 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 4: Tech and then was fine, you know from that point 501 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 4: for already. But just you know, sometimes a new starter 502 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 4: gets fooled, gets overwhelmed, gets pressured. And I'm excited that 503 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 4: Alabama's playing Miami because I torch Miami for all we know, 504 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 4: But Miami's going to pressure him and hit him harder 505 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 4: and run after him harder than anybody else ever has 506 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 4: in a real live game before. And he's gonna have to. 507 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 4: We're going to find out exactly if he's got any flaws, 508 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 4: We're going to find out what they are. So it's 509 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 4: a good game for him in that regard. But I 510 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 4: do think, you know, I'm trying to will chaos to 511 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 4: happen this year. I'm ready for if not a two 512 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 4: thousand and seven, then at least like something like at 513 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 4: twenty thirteen or something, just because it'd be really super 514 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 4: fun to talk about again. But the fact that Ohio 515 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 4: State plays Minnesota and Oregon early, the fact that Alabama 516 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 4: plays Miami and Florida early, the fact that Comeston plays 517 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 4: like the Light plays Georgia right out of the gate. Yeah, 518 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 4: fun and could produce a couple of surprising results because 519 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 4: we assume over the course of a season Stroud and 520 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 4: young and are going to be awesome. It's just they 521 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 4: might not be quite as awesome right at the start. 522 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 2: You have an opportunity right now to plant your flag. 523 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 2: You are are deep in all of these teams, deep 524 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: in looking at how sp plus is looking at these 525 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: teams deep and seeing who teams do and don't have 526 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 2: with schedules, do and don't offer teams. So if you 527 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 2: have that opportunity right now, Bilsie on your side, final 528 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: question to plant your flag now and say this is 529 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: a talking point. This is a team, this is a 530 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 2: player that you might not be thinking about right now, 531 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: but come week eight or nine, you're gonna say, oh wow, 532 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: good for them. 533 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 4: Hmm man. 534 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 2: Like ties all in on NC stage. Why I don't know, 535 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 2: but like, is there is there that team? We're like, look, 536 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: the elements are there for them to have a not 537 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: out of nowhere, but like a really fun thing that 538 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: we're not anticipating right now. 539 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 4: I will say this. I wrote a piece earlier this 540 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 4: week about how to get the most out of the 541 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 4: college football season, how to enjoy it the most, and 542 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 4: part of that the one of the items on that 543 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 4: list was basically like follow the chaos teams. I was 544 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 4: talking about Arizona State as a chaos team. I basically 545 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 4: listed at like, here's my stab at who the chaos 546 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 4: teams might be, Arizona State, at Mississippi State. I think 547 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 4: Houston was on the list. Maryland. I didn't put a 548 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 4: whole miss on the list because I thought there was 549 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: a slight chance they might be too good to be 550 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 4: a chaos team, so maybe that's my answer. Maybe that 551 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 4: was kind of a subconscious thing, like maybe oh Miss 552 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 4: is actually going to be pretty not only fun. They're 553 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 4: definitely gonna be fun this year. Yeah yeah, But if 554 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 4: they have just a top fifty defense, am I not? 555 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 4: But if they do other than Alabama, Like what game 556 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 4: are they guaranteed to lose? They get A and M 557 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 4: at home, they get you know, Louisville is basically like 558 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 4: their mirror image in the ACC and so you know 559 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 4: they can probably handle that one. But there's not a 560 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 4: single like guaranteed loss besides the trip to Tuscaloosa on 561 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 4: the schedule. 562 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: Done all right, Bill c is on your side. 563 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: He is on Ole Miss society. 564 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 4: I didn't even know it until I was speaking. 565 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: Just now here we are we're talking things through. Please please, 566 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: please please please read Bill Connolly at ESPN dot com. 567 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: Buy It's the fifty Greatest, fifty Best Best fifty best 568 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,719 Speaker 2: college football teams. You can get on Amazon, you can 569 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: get ever wherever quality books are sold. It's a fantastic read. 570 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: Great on the beach, great on the toilet, great before bed, 571 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: and it's it's quick, it's easy, it's the best. So 572 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: Bill see on your side until next time. 573 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 4: Thank you. 574 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: In business, big news this week on the nil front. 575 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, yours oh stand out quarterback who decided to 576 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: reclassify so that he could get on campus sooner, the 577 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: incoming freshman for the Ohio State Buckeyes, has reportedly signed 578 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: a one point four million dollar deal with an autograph vendor. Dan, 579 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: that's a lot of cabbage for an incredible head of hair, 580 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: and Queen yours still going with the kind of frosted 581 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: tips slash mullet look which I approve of and enjoy. 582 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: The deal is with GT Sports Marketing, and it is 583 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: for a name, image and likeness deal. This is the 584 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: biggest deal that I've heard of, the biggest singular deal 585 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: that I've heard of. My guess is that it won't 586 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: be the last, but quin Yours was very much the 587 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 1: crown jewel of this past recruiting class, at least on 588 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback side. Does this affect how you feel about 589 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: nil Dan? Does this affect anything whatsoever? Given the fact 590 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: that this kid is really just a backup at this 591 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: point in time. 592 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: I suspect this is not a deal in which he 593 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: has handed a novelty check for one point four million 594 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: dollars I suspect this is a deal that could be 595 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: worth up to one point four million dollars provided he 596 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: hit certain benchmarks, that he win the starting job at 597 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: Ohio State, that he excels, he's all Conference, he's all American, 598 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: he's Heisman caliber, like there is going to be I 599 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,239 Speaker 2: imagine this is a deal that could be worth that 600 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: not novelty check for one point four but look, the 601 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: backup quarterback market is strong in Columbus, so there's that. 602 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: And he was signing deals. 603 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: He signed a deal with some sort of beverage company 604 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: doing commercials, but he signed a deal with beverage some 605 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: kind of iced tea or something beforehand. So cashing in 606 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: and big picture will be fascinating to see where he 607 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: does or doesn't end up, because I suspect he's not 608 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: going to be super keen on sitting for two or 609 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: more years. So if CJ. Stroud is not the answer, 610 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: it looks like quin you Wers could be. But that's 611 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 2: going to be a fascinating quarterback room. It's also a 612 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: bit of a risk totally for the group that is signing. 613 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: When you weres to this multi year potentially over a 614 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: million dollar deal could be a steal if he meets 615 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: expectations I suppose could. 616 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: Be a steal, could be a bust. We'll just have 617 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: to wait and see. But these are the types of 618 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: deals that I think are in effect testing the waters 619 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: for the NIL legislation. We still don't know where this 620 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: is going to go and how a big money deal 621 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: like this proves out in the long run for a 622 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: top flight talent like when yours, that I think is 623 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: going to help set some boundaries and set some ground 624 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: rules for how different entities play it moving forward. Fascinating 625 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: in the world of business. Totally elsewhere, Nebraska leaning on 626 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: donors to its sellout streak alive. Of course, Nebraska lost 627 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: to a game last week on the road against Illinois 628 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: by a thirty to twenty two score. Were tickets available 629 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: for this week's game against the Fordham Rams, New York's 630 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: one true team. Obviously, there is a streak has been 631 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: a streak of three hundred and seventy five consecutive sellouts 632 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: at Memorial Stadium, and that's a streak that they're very 633 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: proud of, which dates all the way back to nineteen 634 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: sixty two. Some donors with money decided that they wanted 635 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: to swoop in and get that number up to three 636 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy six. The tickets that they are buying, 637 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: the freebies as they were, will be given out to 638 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: school age children and their families in a project called 639 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: the Red Carpet Experience DAN, which is actually a pretty 640 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: cool deal. 641 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not so bad. Nebraska did a better job 642 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: or whatever people reporting on this or you know, whatever 643 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: was the pr element to this, they did a better 644 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: job of like, yep, we're bringing in a bunch of 645 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 2: kids who otherwise wouldn't be going to games, rather than. 646 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 4: We need to keep the sellout streak alive. 647 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: It kind of undermines it, doesn't it. 648 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is much cooler than the former part of 649 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: the story that the you know, kids are going to 650 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 2: see this game. Sell out streaks are something that I 651 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: can't imagine who that interests, but I apparently interest donors. 652 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 3: So a cool thing. 653 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 2: You see it across have seen it with the NBA, 654 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 2: you know, buying out large swaths of tickets, especially for 655 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: teams who aren't necessarily thriving, so that kids can go 656 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 2: see basketball game. So ultimately a cool thing. 657 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: Uh. 658 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 3: With a little bit of weird wrapping paper. 659 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: Nebraska will also provide a free hot dog popcorn Annesota 660 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 1: to those receiving Hell yeah tickets, So that's a pretty 661 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: good deal. They will give complimentary tickets out to any 662 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: students an eighth grade or younger and their parents for 663 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: the game against Fordham. Nebraska's athletic department has also acknowledged 664 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: that there are available tickets for some of the remaining homey. 665 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: Also a unique experience for these kids that they get 666 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: to see Nebraska likely win a football game that someday 667 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: they'll be able to tell their children, and they're great 668 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 2: and children yet that yes, they were in the stadium 669 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: for when the Huskers won a game. 670 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: Then, speaking on a more serious note, what's on the 671 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 1: DAN scanner at this hour? 672 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: I don't have any Dan scan about the Huskers, but 673 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: I do see that the SEC is taking a stance 674 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: against teams unable to field a team because of COVID 675 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 2: in that it's going to just end up in a forfeit. 676 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: And also the team who is able to field a 677 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 2: squad is going to be able to appeal to the 678 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 2: league if they suffer any sort of financial consequences because 679 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 2: of a game being forfeited and canceled. That the four 680 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 2: fit ters will have to play a part in reimbursing 681 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 2: the forfeitees if I'm using words correctly there. So that's 682 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 2: sort of been not the financial element everywhere, but that's 683 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 2: been the forfeitsure element has been pretty commonplace now in 684 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 2: the sport. As they look ahead, you know, if teams 685 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 2: are not able to meet protocols, so are not able 686 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: to minimums via protocols. 687 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: Teams have been forced into this box to some extent 688 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: by conferences. Now we saw the ACC. This is a 689 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: very similar policy to what the ACC had. There's now 690 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: such a thing as a double forfeiture where if neither 691 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,439 Speaker 1: team can play, it goes as loss for both yep, 692 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: which is I think as ubiquitous as you can be 693 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 1: with the rule. You just make it as consistent as possible. 694 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: They've been very clear across the board that they don't 695 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: want there to be a similar situation as last year 696 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: where games are being canceled, and maybe last year, in 697 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: the height of things, they were willing to deal with 698 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 1: that as a conference. Those weird scheduling changes. I think 699 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: what conferences are saying now, the message that they are 700 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: sending that is no longer acceptable, that there is a 701 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: way that you can prevent against this from getting as 702 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: bad as did a year ago. And if you choose 703 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: as a team to not follow some of those precautions, 704 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: then it's on you love it or hate it. That's 705 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: just where we're at as a sport. Can ntinues on 706 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: now into twenty twenty one. We've talked all throughout this 707 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: episode about how the big money is essentially ruling the day. 708 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: So the SEC has followed suit with the ACC and 709 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: some others and they're just not going to take it. 710 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: They want to play football. 711 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 2: I can tell you this, It's not going to be 712 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 2: fun at the end of the year. If we are 713 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 2: comparing an eleven and one team to another eleven and 714 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: one team and that the first team lost a game 715 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 2: by fourteen and the second team went eleven and zero 716 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 2: on the field but has a forfeiture. Now do you 717 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: compare those two instances. I imagine that the committee is 718 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: in at least internally if we're talking about a playoff situation, 719 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 2: is at least internally, or if you're looking at tie 720 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 2: breakers for conference championships and divisions whatever, Internally, there's going 721 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 2: to be some way to decide how they're going to 722 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 2: weigh things like that, but there's not a clear right answer. 723 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: What else we got in the dance skin? 724 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 3: Otherwise? 725 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 2: Loyal Crawford a running back out of Wisconsin. There's a 726 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: couple of different situations out of Wisconsin in the running 727 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,439 Speaker 2: back room there. He has been dismissed from the team. 728 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 2: He brandished a knife during a dorm fight, which is 729 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 2: not great. Aggressive, not great. He was not the starter 730 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 2: or even the number two. It looks like that's Chez 731 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 2: mlucy and Jalen Berger. And speaking of running backs and 732 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 2: thinner rooms, Oklahoma is dealing with an extraordinarily thin running 733 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 2: back room now with Kennedy Brooks and Eric Gray the 734 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 2: two lone remaining guys in that room after guys have 735 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 2: been dismissed, guys have transferred out. Now it's Trey Bradford, 736 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: the LSU transfer in is now back in the portal. 737 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: So two scholarship running backs. It appears at this time 738 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 2: on the Oklahoma roster heading into the air, which doesn't 739 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 2: seem like enough. And with that tie, what's the weather 740 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 2: looking live? 741 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 1: What a weekend for college football? Dan? Huh oh my god, 742 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:02,439 Speaker 1: arnally ideal weather from seed to shining Sea. First big 743 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: weekend of the season. Just a few patches of rain 744 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: in the middle part of the country. Bring your sunscreen 745 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 1: if you're gonna be out there at the Duke's Mayo 746 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: Classic in Charlotte. Dan boutiful sunshine eighty four degrees. If 747 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna be tailgating outside that one, it will dip 748 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: down into the low seventies. Nice comfortable weather for a 749 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: big game and for kickoff. Mostly clouding in the seventies 750 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 1: up in Madison for the big matchup with Penn State. 751 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: But nothing a few beers and brats can't cure ninety 752 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: and sunny in the Pacific Northwest. The Ducks are gonna 753 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,720 Speaker 1: kick it off against Fresno. It's hot for the Pacific Northwest, 754 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: but it's nothing for Fresno. They should be used to 755 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 1: it by now. Their shoes were melting on the field 756 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: last week in one hundred and twenty degree heat for 757 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: their big win over the Yukon Huskies. And finally, it's 758 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: gonna feel like one oh nine for Steve Sarkusian's first 759 00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: game in Austin against Louisiana. But Dan, when you're coaching 760 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: at Texas, you know you're always on the hot seat. 761 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: Back to you come of that shell. Good good tag there, Ty. 762 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: That's a pro move from you always on the hot seat. Yeah, 763 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna do those some spicy temperatures. Eat anything in 764 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: Austin and you will be successful. It's a fantastic place 765 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: to eat if you're in Eugene, Oregon. I recommend the 766 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: glen Wood for an outstanding breakfast right next to campus. 767 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 3: Charlotte. 768 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 2: I've mentioned Futo Butta for ramen, but another I'd say underrated. 769 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 2: The more I investigate Charlotte, really good food options there. 770 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 2: Did you mention any other place so you mentioned? 771 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: No? 772 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: That was it Charlotte, Oh Madison find somewhere that serves 773 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 2: don't know. 774 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 3: Cheese, curds. It's always delicious. 775 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: That's it. 776 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 2: That's all I have food wise, in conjunction with your 777 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: rather report, and. 778 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: That does it for WSV News Radio. On this Friday, 779 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: September the third, the f's Friday before the first week 780 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: of college football action, Dan, we hope wherever this news 781 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: report finds you, that you're doing well, that you're ready 782 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: for this onslaught of college football that is in front 783 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 1: of us all Labor Day weekend long. Don't forget today's 784 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,879 Speaker 1: show brought to you by play Runtheboard dot Com. It's 785 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: a pickham game. It runs all season long. You compete 786 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 1: against the entire verballerhood for five coveted spots on our 787 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: board of trustees. But the deadline is tomorrow. The deadline 788 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: is Saturday, September fourth, at eleven fifty nine am to 789 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,439 Speaker 1: sign up Eastern, get your picks Eastern, Eastern, get those 790 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 1: picks in. Otherwise you're just going to have to wait 791 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: until next year, Dani, and you wouldn't want that now. 792 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 2: Basically, the minute before kickoff, that's when you got to 793 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 2: get your picks in by Saturday morning kickoff week one. 794 00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 3: As you're listening to this, this is the only week 795 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 3: that matters. 796 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 2: Get him in playerundboard dot com. 797 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, 798 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: for myself, Tie Hildenbrand. This has again been WSV News 799 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: Radio presented by the Solid Verbal. We will talk to 800 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: you all in a few days in the meantimes day 801 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,240 Speaker 1: so peace,