Speaker 1: My grandma and your grandma wasting bad fun my grandma
Speaker 1: to your grandma. I'm gonna say funny, you're talking about him.
Speaker 1: I go on Date Jagomo, Nick Jagomo, Celebrate good Times,
Speaker 1: Come on Celebratti Hoot and Uh, guys, this is Matt
Speaker 1: Rogers and um, if you listened, uh, if you're a
Speaker 1: listener of the podcast, you'll know that Bone and I
Speaker 1: are in a little bit of an argument right now.
Speaker 1: One would call it a feud starring Susan Surrandon and
Speaker 1: just now, Um Bowen came for me on the podcast
Speaker 1: the segment I don't think so, honey, and both Bowen
Speaker 1: and our guest Chrissy Shackelford said, I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: Matt fucking Rogers. You say this as if there's no
Speaker 1: precedent for it, and you historically on I believe it
Speaker 1: was Sam Tagger its episode came for me and I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. So it's not like it's not
Speaker 1: like this is this is hasn't been done before. You
Speaker 1: know what, I'm just saying, like, are we on good
Speaker 1: terms or not? Well, I don't know, Matt, it seems
Speaker 1: like we're on great terms. But then as soon as
Speaker 1: as soon as our producer Alex hits record. You know,
Speaker 1: are you saying I'm playing a role on this podcast,
Speaker 1: You're saying I'm not being my real ground itself. Are
Speaker 1: you're saying, and I'm not bringing the T one hundred.
Speaker 1: You're you're not bringing the T one hundred. You're you're
Speaker 1: putting on a mask. I am bringing the T one hundred,
Speaker 1: Arnold Swartzenegger and the first film of Terminator. Honey, that's
Speaker 1: me always. Well, girl, you know what I'm I'm willing
Speaker 1: to just keep this ball in the air while we're recording,
Speaker 1: and if you want to, if you want to come
Speaker 1: for me, bitch, then stay then stay for me. Okay,
Speaker 1: stay for a while, and you the listeners, stay for
Speaker 1: a while. You better stay for our guest. Such an
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Speaker 1: King Bozo. And you might also have seen him on
Speaker 1: the special without Brett Davis as a frequent guest. He
Speaker 1: um gosh, is he has this one has a screen presence.
Speaker 1: He's all over the place. And let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: He jumps off the screen. He jumps off the stage
Speaker 1: and he's jumping into your ears right now. Everybody, please
Speaker 1: please welcome wonderful, lovely boy. Wonderful lovely boy. I think
Speaker 1: that's you. I'll take. I'll take lovely boy. You don't
Speaker 1: want to be wonderful? Which Tim has been this self
Speaker 1: labeled best boy? Best boy? That was? I don't know
Speaker 1: if that was self labeled. Maybe not the best boy.
Speaker 1: I know Anna calls me best times. Maybe it's like
Speaker 1: a story parents thing, but it's been hurled at me
Speaker 1: and I've accepted it with open arm. I think you
Speaker 1: are the best boy. In fact, I think you're the
Speaker 1: best boy so much that I'm ready to announce it.
Speaker 1: Announced Tim Platt is the first straight man to guess
Speaker 1: on lost cultures that congratulations, this is unprecedented hunting. I mean,
Speaker 1: don't ever say last culture assess didn't give you a diversity. No,
Speaker 1: finally we are giving you color and life. Finally spice
Speaker 1: with Tim Platt. I'm incredibly happy to be here and
Speaker 1: incredibly honored could be here, and I might much appreciate
Speaker 1: everything that you all do. That's such a real thing though.
Speaker 1: It's like when I was growing up, like the straight
Speaker 1: the when I was trying to be straight in school
Speaker 1: and I talk like this, like I brought my voice
Speaker 1: down't like this, like it's really spoken, like a voice
Speaker 1: is like a little bit lower. And I heard recently
Speaker 1: heard my like eleven year old cousin doing it, and
Speaker 1: I was like I wanted to get down at his
Speaker 1: level and be like, don't do it. It's like a
Speaker 1: young boy. I think it's like the talk lower than
Speaker 1: you usually than you you're supposed to talk, or like
Speaker 1: the idea that you can like fool someone by talking
Speaker 1: like this if it sounds incredibly forced and like the
Speaker 1: young young I love young boys because they like have
Speaker 1: such goofy gay little instincts, but they they mask them.
Speaker 1: They get to a certain point and it's like no,
Speaker 1: like guns and stuff. They make a decision that intimacy
Speaker 1: is like a problem. They make it. That's what it is,
Speaker 1: an act decision I think young boys make and then
Speaker 1: like and then it will come out and they'll be like,
Speaker 1: oh no, we can't be like we can't love each other,
Speaker 1: we can't love each other, we can't touch each other.
Speaker 1: But little boys always on top of each other. What
Speaker 1: you too, specifically do, Matt and Tim, you guys will
Speaker 1: choose to pull out the you know, the gravelly gruff,
Speaker 1: lower timber voice, and viscerally when either of you do,
Speaker 1: it's specifically it's for you too. Viscerally it's just painful
Speaker 1: for me to listen to because it's I don't know
Speaker 1: why if it takes me back somewhere, if it takes
Speaker 1: me back to a certain person for real, Like if
Speaker 1: that sounds like serious, very much appreciate that, but I
Speaker 1: have to say that, like your pain is like not
Speaker 1: my fault, literally quite honestly not my problem. And honest see,
Speaker 1: if you were like in like in this school right now,
Speaker 1: like people would come at you if you can seriously
Speaker 1: for real, you don't want to like, honestly, I yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, imagine imagine imagine living like that disgusting
Speaker 1: that's Long Island. Though. Wow. My dad like he like
Speaker 1: he wants me to be like a business major, and
Speaker 1: like I I kind of think I want to major
Speaker 1: in English, but I don't. It's like it's like a um, so,
Speaker 1: now we're talking and we're living in the past. I
Speaker 1: think this is a great opportunity, yes, to ask Tima
Speaker 1: the question. I love. This question is a central question.
Speaker 1: This is an essential question. It's what culture shaped you? Tim,
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about your upbringing, what made
Speaker 1: you decide that culture was for you? What made you
Speaker 1: say culture? I accept this. I want to pursue it.
Speaker 1: Can I first say that before I answer this question,
Speaker 1: I want to say that, like, as as a listener
Speaker 1: of this podcast, I love this question so much. And
Speaker 1: the first time I heard it, I was a little
Speaker 1: startled because it's so vast but so specific that it's
Speaker 1: an incredible way to open a conversation. It's just like,
Speaker 1: I really think that what culture is for you? It's
Speaker 1: like it's so and everybody answers a different way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've had people talk about where they grew up and
Speaker 1: just to talk about that, and then some people go
Speaker 1: directly to like a movie or a television show. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: so it's very open ended. I used to follow up
Speaker 1: and qualify that question by saying, what movies, books, tv
Speaker 1: would you watch that shaped you? But I feel like
Speaker 1: that's even then too specific, and the beauty of the
Speaker 1: question is that it's so broad and open ended. Yes,
Speaker 1: as this beautiful que I will answer this question. Um.
Speaker 1: I think the culture. I think the X Men were
Speaker 1: like super huge for me, like comics, comic books and
Speaker 1: comic strips in general, and then X Men specifically as
Speaker 1: like a superhero team. We're really big for me, and
Speaker 1: like one of the first things I remember being like,
Speaker 1: I have to know everything about this. You read the
Speaker 1: comic books, yeah, and you watched the television show yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you got into the movies when they came out.
Speaker 1: For sure. I did like the movies I love I
Speaker 1: mean Nightcrawler was my favorite. So like X two, I
Speaker 1: was like that opening scene, I feel like it's been
Speaker 1: it's been said before, it has been said before, and
Speaker 1: it's the it's the it bothered because I haven't seen
Speaker 1: X two. I've seen all the X Men's except X two,
Speaker 1: when I feel like that's the one, watch like the
Speaker 1: first fifteen minutes and then like that's it's an incredible sequence. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the sequence of Nightcrawler like teleporting and is like super cool. Um,
Speaker 1: everything else is like fine. I think the ending is
Speaker 1: really great. What happens to the end again? Um, I
Speaker 1: mean I don't want to spoil it. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: everyone knows Gene basically dies and actually comes back in
Speaker 1: the next one. You know what. Here's my thing, Like,
Speaker 1: I love Jean Gray, I love the Phoenix saga. I
Speaker 1: love it, but I think it takes over too many
Speaker 1: narratives in the X Men uni, like every in the
Speaker 1: whole every X Men property, like there'll be a Phoenix
Speaker 1: storyline and just consumes every other story, which is it's
Speaker 1: not that it's a bad story, just like it's weird
Speaker 1: that it's the one that they chose. Yes, that's kind
Speaker 1: of like when you hear that when there's a big
Speaker 1: superhero movie coming out and you finally hear the announcement
Speaker 1: of who the villain is going to be, You're like, okay, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: that's what we're getting. Like when Spider Man three came
Speaker 1: out with the last one with Toby Maguire and they
Speaker 1: were like, it's gonna be Sandman and that are not Salmon.
Speaker 1: It was Sandman and Venom and the Lizard was it
Speaker 1: was sand Man and Venom, and I was like Sandman
Speaker 1: and Venom. Really, that was one of the worst movies
Speaker 1: ever saw. I remember seeing it in theaters in college
Speaker 1: and being like really excited. That was when I still
Speaker 1: excited about coming book to see it with my friends.
Speaker 1: I made my friends go see it. I remember being theater,
Speaker 1: being in the theater and like being so pissed, the
Speaker 1: energy just dropping, yeah, like slowly maybe like oh no,
Speaker 1: I think there's there's one good scene in it, and
Speaker 1: it's the last scene when Kirston Dunson singing I'm through
Speaker 1: with love, don't let its start again? Interesting in the
Speaker 1: bar because she's like her career hasn't worked out that
Speaker 1: well and like then, uh was that Toguara walks in
Speaker 1: and they see each other and they just start to
Speaker 1: slow dance. And I did think that was a really nice,
Speaker 1: pretty scene and I actually think it's a very fitting,
Speaker 1: nice way for that cannon of of that told me
Speaker 1: required Kirston Dune Spider Man Movie Trilogy to end. Wasn't
Speaker 1: wasn't he? Wasn't she in a in that movie? She
Speaker 1: was in? What play? Was she in? She was? She was?
Speaker 1: Which I love that play, and she's in there. I
Speaker 1: was like, why is this play? It just smell a
Speaker 1: weird place. His voice alone and was one with absolute credulity.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Matt, I think. I think Kirsten Dunst
Speaker 1: is sort of the proud of myself is the unsung
Speaker 1: here of those. Kirsten Dunst is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: actresses ever. Full stop, full stop. Were you a Kirston
Speaker 1: Dunst boy, You're either a Kirsten Dunst boy or dichotomy.
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with her, but you just
Speaker 1: don't carry either way. I guess, you know what, I
Speaker 1: can't you know what. I guess she always does a
Speaker 1: good job. I can't think of a movie I've seen
Speaker 1: it anywhere I've been like her. She sucked. Yeah, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: she yeah. I'm a I'm a Wow, I'm a Kirston
Speaker 1: Dunst boy. Wow. That's the title of the episode. I
Speaker 1: have a question. Okay, so this is my roommate, makes spense,
Speaker 1: good friend of the pod listen to the pod. Is
Speaker 1: also also really grew up on comic books, and this
Speaker 1: is something that I as a kid wished I could access,
Speaker 1: wished I could be because love just the artwork in general.
Speaker 1: But I feel like I just didn't know, like where
Speaker 1: to go. I'm surprised with that about that with you,
Speaker 1: I would imagine that I was just so visual. I
Speaker 1: was definitely, Yeah, I love to draw. I loved anime shows,
Speaker 1: which is it. It's its own little sort of different culture,
Speaker 1: you know, separate from comic books, like American comic books.
Speaker 1: But I never knew like where to go. I still
Speaker 1: feel like I don't like where you feel like often
Speaker 1: did you go when I was a kid. So okay, well,
Speaker 1: I will say that when I was a kid, like
Speaker 1: with X Men, like those types of comic books, I know,
Speaker 1: I get there. There was at least be like a
Speaker 1: mailing service where they would mail you stuff. I had that,
Speaker 1: and like I guess I would go to like bookstores
Speaker 1: and then but finally comic bookshop was like when I
Speaker 1: was in high school and I was like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: this all this other stuff. But I remember I read
Speaker 1: more strips like my dad had had these old like
Speaker 1: old Calvin Hobbs and Peanuts and like Dunesbury and Bloom
Speaker 1: County and like all that. Like I always loved those
Speaker 1: because those were just like around. But like, to go
Speaker 1: to a comic shop is like, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's kind of going to a record shop
Speaker 1: the first time. We were like like enter a world
Speaker 1: of not lledge. It's too esoteric, right, It's incredibly And
Speaker 1: also the people that are into comic books are so
Speaker 1: like I'm into comic books, and like it's kind of
Speaker 1: like when someone's like into jazz music, it's like you
Speaker 1: can't be half into it. And I expect to talk
Speaker 1: to people that are like in comics. They're like they
Speaker 1: know everything, and it's it's like an intimidating world for me.
Speaker 1: Almost did you know that was a very serious jazz
Speaker 1: guitar player in my past? Okay, as he's unbuttoning his
Speaker 1: shirt a little sexy boy, I just felt by um.
Speaker 1: So when I was when I was in like middle school,
Speaker 1: I started playing guitar and like the jazz band was
Speaker 1: like the cool for me. It was the coolest thing
Speaker 1: in our school. It's like high schoolers the jazz band,
Speaker 1: they were so cool um uh, and I'm sure they were,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I believe you. Well, actually, did you ever
Speaker 1: see uh dear Van Hanson, there's a this isn't a
Speaker 1: spoiler seen it. I have seen. So the writer was
Speaker 1: the older brother of one of my best friends in
Speaker 1: high school. Oh so a lot of this stuff in
Speaker 1: that show like very I felt very much like, oh
Speaker 1: I there's like reference points I see here, and there's
Speaker 1: a moment where he's like, oh, like, hey, like I like,
Speaker 1: I like you a jazz band, I don't like, I
Speaker 1: like I love jazz, well not not jazz, but like
Speaker 1: jazz band jazz or just like I know what you're talking.
Speaker 1: I saw a clip of this yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: It's in the Waiting through the Window, Yes conversation. And
Speaker 1: I've been listening to that NonStop. It was that good.
Speaker 1: Huh Um. I really liked it. I really liked it.
Speaker 1: And generally if I get hooks me, I'll like listen
Speaker 1: to it a lot. And the music is really sticky,
Speaker 1: I can really sticky. But but but I bring that
Speaker 1: up to say that, like that was like the I
Speaker 1: like jazz but jazz band jazz were just saying like
Speaker 1: you like sort of like pseudo jam band stuff. As
Speaker 1: a jazz anyways, I was really obsessed with that UM
Speaker 1: and like I became a very into jazz person. But
Speaker 1: and then when they played a lot and practiced all
Speaker 1: the time, and then they went to college where there
Speaker 1: was a music conservatory that I did not wasn't a
Speaker 1: part of it. But I was like, Oh, here's what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna like go to college and
Speaker 1: then to practice a lot and be in the conservatory too.
Speaker 1: I don't be like a Jaska, but yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: we do. UM. But then I got really intimided because
Speaker 1: of all these people. I was like, oh, you are
Speaker 1: all true serious musicians and I am not. And then
Speaker 1: I broke my fingers so I could't practice it for
Speaker 1: like a year, and then I was like, well, I'm
Speaker 1: really out. That's really interesting because I feel it's very
Speaker 1: similar to the comic book thing, and I think but
Speaker 1: I think so too any obsessive culture. It's if you
Speaker 1: can name one thing and then someone's like, oh, if
Speaker 1: you like that, and how about that? And if you
Speaker 1: know that, then you're like in and if you know that,
Speaker 1: they're like all right. It's like the way people feel
Speaker 1: about improv. That's the way people feel about anything people
Speaker 1: know about sports, or like like guys asking girls like, oh,
Speaker 1: if you really love football the name like the team,
Speaker 1: and then this year it's like not right, Yeah, just
Speaker 1: did the love voice thing. By the way, Wait that
Speaker 1: was my paltry attempt at it. But what's uptown? I
Speaker 1: just do think it's funny that so you really like football?
Speaker 1: Guys really do ask that, like like just like try
Speaker 1: to like test you on that stuff to women specifically,
Speaker 1: you say I like football, Like I feel like that's
Speaker 1: that's true. Um no, this is but Tim's like intimidation
Speaker 1: of this like more what he thought was more legitimate. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's sort of like maybe, Matt, do you feel this
Speaker 1: way about like how you ended up sort of going
Speaker 1: into and this Sorry this is getting very inside baseball
Speaker 1: with our pasts, but like did you feel that way
Speaker 1: going into like things like reality show where it was
Speaker 1: like so, yeah, so I went to school and wasn't
Speaker 1: studying acting or writing at all. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: a journalism I was. I was like basically I was
Speaker 1: accepted into the school, um, and I was going to
Speaker 1: be a journalism major. And then yeah, just honestly being
Speaker 1: around people that were passionate about something made me realize,
Speaker 1: oh my god, wait, I've been passionate about this all along,
Speaker 1: and that's what I wanted to do all along. And
Speaker 1: then it is really hard to get over that thing
Speaker 1: of like, but I but I'm not as good as them,
Speaker 1: or I feel like just because I like something doesn't
Speaker 1: mean I should do it. And also even if I
Speaker 1: am good enough, how would you go about getting into
Speaker 1: that position? And it it's really hard to ingretiate yourself
Speaker 1: and something that you love and might have a passion for,
Speaker 1: but just other people are I've already you feel like
Speaker 1: they have a head start on you, which is I
Speaker 1: think a lot of college kids out there that not
Speaker 1: to college is forced to find what you want to
Speaker 1: do and like really get into it. But a lot
Speaker 1: of people think, well that's not my major, I can't
Speaker 1: do that, or they think it's my second year a
Speaker 1: third year of fourth year of college and I haven't
Speaker 1: done that, that means it's over for me, or even
Speaker 1: the idea that like you have to to enjoy something,
Speaker 1: you have to be a master at it, something you
Speaker 1: have to like you have to judge your connection with it,
Speaker 1: competency competency in it with other people's view of It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's like so few things I feel
Speaker 1: like I like just because I like to do him
Speaker 1: that are like devoid of value, judgment and comparison. It's
Speaker 1: all about faking your way into everything anyway, because because
Speaker 1: you have to realize, like those people that you're thinking
Speaker 1: about and talking about, like most of them just faked
Speaker 1: their way in and just believed and believed and believed
Speaker 1: hard enough. I mean, the way I got into shows
Speaker 1: at n y U because I want to really wanted
Speaker 1: to perform, was just convincing myself that I could do it,
Speaker 1: like and maybe maybe that's not for everybody, but I
Speaker 1: think so much of it. You can achieve so much
Speaker 1: by like just visualizing, I think. But then there's that
Speaker 1: lingering thing of once you've like overcome that like first
Speaker 1: little mental barrier ventry to say, like I can do this,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, Like I felt like that as
Speaker 1: like a chemistry major doing being in the improv group
Speaker 1: and saying while everyone else is in film or in
Speaker 1: drama and I don't know and therefore there's a ceiling
Speaker 1: for me. But you know what, so I was a
Speaker 1: Latin major in the impact. Yeah, I remember being like, oh,
Speaker 1: like maybe I want to do you know, like Tim,
Speaker 1: like you've always wanted to act, Like you know that
Speaker 1: you said that you just didn't do it in high
Speaker 1: school like you've always wanted to. Now like these people
Speaker 1: kind of are and like you're liking this, so like
Speaker 1: why don't you try? Why you go for it? I
Speaker 1: go for it? And then like I met people who
Speaker 1: are actors like at my school, like in the acting program,
Speaker 1: and I was like I just hate that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't want I was like I don't. I kind of
Speaker 1: regret that because I was being judgmental um and I
Speaker 1: could have done plays that would have been fun, but
Speaker 1: I was straight up like I had the imposter syndrome.
Speaker 1: Then I saw like performance and I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't like this feeling. The thing is it's like yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's another thing. It's like you're not
Speaker 1: really in the in the community you want to be in,
Speaker 1: or like you don't really do it yet, and so
Speaker 1: you dip your toe in it and the very first
Speaker 1: person you meet or the very first experience you have
Speaker 1: can be like a defining experience, like and that's with everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I think when people some people
Speaker 1: in anyway, when they attempt to do something and they
Speaker 1: failed the first time, it's like, well, I'm bad at well,
Speaker 1: I can't do that, and I feel like that's like
Speaker 1: it's insane to believe that you could just succeed in
Speaker 1: your first time doing anything. Anyway. It's how I feel
Speaker 1: about push up because I used to be so bad
Speaker 1: and then I just started being like Tim, like you
Speaker 1: can do push ups, and now I do, Like, now
Speaker 1: you push ups every single morning, and no, and then
Speaker 1: you really do get better at that. Yeah, you do
Speaker 1: get better. And I know, I know you're I know
Speaker 1: you were saying that as a bit, but like it's true. Everyone.
Speaker 1: I appreciate how that that you I appreciate. And also
Speaker 1: I think that brings health and fitness into less culture stuff.
Speaker 1: And I really hope that everyone listening right now just
Speaker 1: gets down, right now, while you're listening, even while I'm
Speaker 1: saying this, right now, just get down and do ten.
Speaker 1: Do a hundred pushes, put them up into fifth. You
Speaker 1: know what. Throughout the rest of the podcast, I'll remind
Speaker 1: you that it's time to do another ten, and by
Speaker 1: the end of the podcast, you'll have done a hundred guys,
Speaker 1: and then you can say you did a hundred push
Speaker 1: ups today. No one ever said you have to do
Speaker 1: them all at once, to common misconception, I'm a fitness guru.
Speaker 1: Now alright, wow, this is a bold new direction. Hey, um,
Speaker 1: get down and do ten guys. This is one. Okay,
Speaker 1: so but you're pulsing this out. You're doing ten, so
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do this not I would say,
Speaker 1: don't worry about me, bowen. I would say, don't worry
Speaker 1: about me at all. Wow, um wow, Okay. There's lots
Speaker 1: of uh culture okay, so um comic books and then
Speaker 1: would you say that that's like maybe it's hard to
Speaker 1: pin down one thing. There were a few things. I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like comic books and comic strips. I feel like, um,
Speaker 1: my parents would play musicals in like the car rides, um,
Speaker 1: and that was a big thing, like singing along to
Speaker 1: musicals and car rides. Uh. So I like musicals. I'm
Speaker 1: not like obsessed, but like the older I get them more.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I really like this. Um. I also
Speaker 1: like loved like comedy albums. I go to sleep listening
Speaker 1: to like U the albums are listening to Going to
Speaker 1: Sleep where a lot of Bill Cosby albums, a lot
Speaker 1: of uh the twenties. I was a year old man
Speaker 1: the mel Brooks and carrying Oh my god. I used
Speaker 1: to love Margaret Trow in high school. I loved her.
Speaker 1: I love listen to Dave Barry Tass. Do you da?
Speaker 1: He was like a dad who wrote a comedy column
Speaker 1: for like Washington Post magazine or something. I probably read
Speaker 1: an interview of his or something it was. But so
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like listening to stuff was
Speaker 1: I definitely Margaret Show was a big one for me.
Speaker 1: And also I listened to I'm Still Here damn It
Speaker 1: by Sandra Bernhard. You ever listen to that album? And
Speaker 1: you ever you ever listen to any Sandra Bernhard? No,
Speaker 1: I'm not. She was him. I think you would really
Speaker 1: like her. She was like real performance art, like she
Speaker 1: was like it wasn't stand up, it was like sometimes
Speaker 1: it was s would just break out into a song.
Speaker 1: I love that you would. You should listen to that.
Speaker 1: And also everyone at home like, that's a fun liddle
Speaker 1: throwback comed performance album that you should check out. As
Speaker 1: Sandra Bernhard I'm Still Here damn it. She on the
Speaker 1: Larry Sanders Show a lot. Yeah, Okay, then I thinking
Speaker 1: thinking of the right. No, she was big. She was
Speaker 1: big time, like a long time ago. I think she
Speaker 1: did a couple of score Casey movies. Um, and she
Speaker 1: had like a she played herself on Will and Grace.
Speaker 1: They were like because Will and Grace were like looking
Speaker 1: at Sandra Bernhard's apartment and they're like, we can't believe
Speaker 1: that's Sandra Bernhard's department, and then hilarity ensued. Um, I
Speaker 1: feel like you can believe it. Honestly that I feel
Speaker 1: like comedy albums were like a big blind spot from me.
Speaker 1: It was just I yeah, like I'm ashamed to say
Speaker 1: the first like full length album I listened to is
Speaker 1: can you Got that Thing? Cook? Yeah? You know what,
Speaker 1: you know what? I I liked him. I mean I
Speaker 1: was like that snake bit. He has a snake bit
Speaker 1: that really connected me, where he like pretends to be
Speaker 1: a snake and then it skills like oh, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know that's my think, yeah you know, and then his
Speaker 1: teeth around the I want that and him saying I
Speaker 1: want what a snake has. Remember that being a big
Speaker 1: moment for me. I was like, oh fuck, he just
Speaker 1: Dan Cook never had jokes. He just had like little
Speaker 1: snippets of like phrases that somehow he would deliver in
Speaker 1: land and it would be successful. And he was actually
Speaker 1: very skilled in that regard, like somebody should in the
Speaker 1: coats is still hilarious to me. He also was an
Speaker 1: amazing performer. Yeah, he was a great live performer. Like
Speaker 1: he was. You can hear in his voice when you're
Speaker 1: listening to him on an album that he's just killing
Speaker 1: the audience. I remember that was like all we listened
Speaker 1: to in high school. And then um, when he started
Speaker 1: to do his more, like he had like a couple
Speaker 1: of movies employ them on Oh God, Luck Chuck, good
Speaker 1: Luck Chuck. Um. But also the last I heard from
Speaker 1: Dane Cook, he was talking about like how he was
Speaker 1: absolutely killing the game in terms of like he fucked
Speaker 1: a lot of groupies on like he he was like
Speaker 1: he was talking about how like that's how the reason
Speaker 1: good Luck Chuck was a thing because he was just
Speaker 1: getting so much ass, like he like he just like
Speaker 1: talked about and I was fascinating to me. I'm like,
Speaker 1: apparently just like every single New city just fucking fucking
Speaker 1: fu and then I'm thinking, is that how it is
Speaker 1: like for these people that are on the road, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, he had stadiums like he
Speaker 1: was like doing, wasn't he right? He had stadiums for sure?
Speaker 1: Like he was kind of like a little rock star there.
Speaker 1: Well it's like early days. I just like, you know,
Speaker 1: like I like that snake bit and like I I'll
Speaker 1: give it to him that he's like a talented performer,
Speaker 1: but like like I don't like his legacy is his
Speaker 1: legacy is a is a I guess a shameful one
Speaker 1: would be not fair, right, That wouldn't be fair. It's
Speaker 1: not Yeah, one most shameful wouldn't wouldn't be unfair to me,
Speaker 1: But it's also probably like not the right. It's like
Speaker 1: shameful is also being too generous with It's like it's
Speaker 1: just like looking back and remembering that Ashley Simpson was
Speaker 1: a huge pop star. It's like, oh, that's that's where
Speaker 1: we were in terms of like mass appeal, bad taste
Speaker 1: at that point. It was just like we all accepted
Speaker 1: something at that time, we all left to something at
Speaker 1: that time, which now we're looking back and we're like, huh,
Speaker 1: that makes me think of did you have you seen
Speaker 1: the Backstreet Boys documentary? I just talked about this the
Speaker 1: other day off the air with Chrissie. You have you
Speaker 1: seen it? Um? I have seen bits and pieces of it,
Speaker 1: but the best in pieces I've seen were like not
Speaker 1: fun to watch. They were sad. And you have not
Speaker 1: seen it. I have not, but I've heard it's really cool.
Speaker 1: It's really cool, and like into what we're talking about
Speaker 1: is they're pretty open about there, like we were the
Speaker 1: biggest band in the world, um, and then we weren't,
Speaker 1: you know, and now we're adults. I mean they were
Speaker 1: adults then some of them more. But on the morning,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like them reckoning with that idea that
Speaker 1: we're talking about it, like they could have been this
Speaker 1: monumental thing in culture and then they are just not.
Speaker 1: And I think it really I think they come off
Speaker 1: looking very good in that. I think so. I think
Speaker 1: that they clearly have like issues, they clearly have. You
Speaker 1: can't be not emotionally go through the emotional ringer doing
Speaker 1: that kind of experience, especially at the age Howie d
Speaker 1: I think it's a psychopath But like, oh god, Backstreet Boys,
Speaker 1: I mean I think was like a sex addict and
Speaker 1: also an alcoholic. And I think Nick Carter was molested
Speaker 1: by their manager. Yeah, I mean that don't they cover that,
Speaker 1: and that they delude to it. They allude, they make
Speaker 1: I think they were not allowed to talk about stuff.
Speaker 1: I think they are contraction allowed to talk about that
Speaker 1: because they will say some very like political things where
Speaker 1: they go, yeah, and you do some things that may's
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable. And there's one moment where Kevin just like
Speaker 1: he allowed me to quit my three jobs and follow
Speaker 1: my dreams and that will always be grateful, like a
Speaker 1: very sort of like they have to walk it back, see,
Speaker 1: oh we gotta. I just I don't think they walked
Speaker 1: it back, but they just said they were they were.
Speaker 1: It was clear the Victor ship went down, just like
Speaker 1: we were not going to talk about it because he
Speaker 1: was also he was also the manager of I Think
Speaker 1: in Sync, and I think he discovered Britney Spirit. Yeah
Speaker 1: what what was his name? Just and he passed away
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Yeah he's I think he's
Speaker 1: not around anymore. But he was also in prison for
Speaker 1: a long time embezzelment. So this was like not a
Speaker 1: good guy. Um and the story goes that he molested
Speaker 1: the Carter kids and that the mother found out about it,
Speaker 1: and then it was like it was a whole I
Speaker 1: remember these headlines. Um, he was like a sick. Oh
Speaker 1: that's really unfortunate. Um. But speaking of it's so funny.
Speaker 1: Backstreet Boys are just sort of like creeping back into
Speaker 1: the consciousness today. I just saw a headline I was
Speaker 1: talking about how Brian wanted to wanted to perform at
Speaker 1: the inauguration. Um. And then and then oh my god.
Speaker 1: And then Matt and I were in Philly this a
Speaker 1: weekend ago, and then there was this club where there
Speaker 1: was this giant screen and they played backstreets back for
Speaker 1: the video, and and then I was drunk, So I
Speaker 1: might have just like in a sexually remember that line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was just so receptive to this video again,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what this is Like,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is one of those first music
Speaker 1: like one of those first modern pop videos post nineties
Speaker 1: that was just like very stylized yea video. It was stupid.
Speaker 1: It was stupid now, but like one of them. It
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, he's a wolf, why he's That's why
Speaker 1: it's fun? Things like I don't get that none of
Speaker 1: them were like sexy fucking like sexy monsters, like he
Speaker 1: was a mummy, Like he looked like a mummy. Total
Speaker 1: I don't get, but but I don't wait. Tim just
Speaker 1: blasted through this ceiling. I was gonna say, no, this
Speaker 1: is Backstreet Boys have this very special personal meaning to me.
Speaker 1: And this is why I sent my very first email
Speaker 1: to the Backstreet Boys fan like fan page. You had
Speaker 1: never sent an email before. I never sent an email before.
Speaker 1: I technically was not through those of you at home.
Speaker 1: Bowen does send a lot of emails now, so this
Speaker 1: is like the beginning of something and I've I've been
Speaker 1: told I'm very good at sending them um anyway, but
Speaker 1: it was just like my first email, just typing this
Speaker 1: out and being like, wait, this this goes to them,
Speaker 1: like through through this thing called the internet, and they response.
Speaker 1: It was an automated response, but I, as a kid,
Speaker 1: thought it was like them actually reading my thing and
Speaker 1: being like, hey, thanks so much for reaching out to us.
Speaker 1: And I was like wow, like Nick Carter saw my message,
Speaker 1: which is so funny and insane, and why did no
Speaker 1: one clock that then? And there to be like that kid,
Speaker 1: that six year old is gay um or you know,
Speaker 1: eight year old would be clocking there. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: know if things happen when you're young and then you
Speaker 1: look back and you're like, holy sh it. When I
Speaker 1: was tent from my tenth birthday, my parents gave me
Speaker 1: tickets to the first concert I was ever going to
Speaker 1: go to when it was Mariah Carey, and I screamed,
Speaker 1: I think for like minutes and was like jumping for
Speaker 1: joy because I was going to see Mariah carry in
Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden. I you guys have talked about I
Speaker 1: don't know, I actually know what. I don't want to
Speaker 1: enter the Mariah they carry conversation. No, no, I want
Speaker 1: to hear this what is it? Tim? Because I know
Speaker 1: you all like, uh, you have all come out to
Speaker 1: say that you are Mariah apologize your apologist for that moment,
Speaker 1: for that moment, and I'm just I will say I'm
Speaker 1: a neutral. I'm basically like I got angry about who
Speaker 1: got a couple of listeners saying no, Mariah was wrong?
Speaker 1: Oh no, I I just well, I'll say it's not
Speaker 1: the fire. You know what, if you don't go to
Speaker 1: sound check then like no, then if you don't go
Speaker 1: to sound check. She did, and she went to No,
Speaker 1: here's what happened. She went to sound check. The producers
Speaker 1: kept pushing back the sound check and she had to
Speaker 1: be she had to be somewhere. No, her sound check
Speaker 1: was for three thirty. The producers kept her in a
Speaker 1: waiting area and she didn't go on until five o'clock
Speaker 1: and she only had fifteen minutes to do strap and
Speaker 1: then they were like, okay, we gotta we gotta move
Speaker 1: on at six o'clock. See I heard she didn't even
Speaker 1: go to this sound check. That's what I I think that.
Speaker 1: I think two things. One there's a lot of explanations
Speaker 1: from a lot of different sources. And the second thing
Speaker 1: I think is I don't care because it was funny. Okay, I'll,
Speaker 1: i'll it was fun I tell you that. My one
Speaker 1: of my favorite like line like like like argument lines
Speaker 1: is I don't care. I like it because I feel
Speaker 1: like there's such, uh, there's such an impulse to justice,
Speaker 1: Like okay, it usually comes down to this, were like
Speaker 1: so like I don't eat meat right now, I don't
Speaker 1: call myself vegetarian because like if it's free, I'll eat it,
Speaker 1: you know, if someone's giving me leftovers. I'll eat it
Speaker 1: like cool, I like it. Um, why why people why
Speaker 1: people normally don't eat meat? You know whatever? And in
Speaker 1: my mind, like you, it's hard to argue against the
Speaker 1: idea that, like the culture of meat is bad for
Speaker 1: the world, you know, and like bad for your body.
Speaker 1: But that's a different argument. But the idea that like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's bad, you know, it's bad environmentally, it's bad.
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to argue against that. And I've
Speaker 1: always think it's interested in where people are like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not going argue against it, but I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: fuck you rather than you're right. But I don't care.
Speaker 1: I eat me because I like it. Like I think
Speaker 1: that is like a fine. I think it's a fine
Speaker 1: fine being wrong. And also like I don't care, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do this not this argument is a kid no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: by agree with you. It's like you know what it is.
Speaker 1: It's like Facebook culture and common culture. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: like we're all lawyers on the It's interesting now, it's
Speaker 1: like where do you lawyers? It's like I feel like
Speaker 1: that that is a great argument and a great sort
Speaker 1: of um sort of relinquishment of of argument, I guess,
Speaker 1: but then like I feel like that has to match
Speaker 1: in severity. It's like, okay, well if I don't if
Speaker 1: I still eat meat despite all these horrible things like
Speaker 1: surrounding food culture, then and I don't care them, that's fine.
Speaker 1: But also then it's like, well, what if you like
Speaker 1: want to, like, what if you want to fucking like
Speaker 1: choke a dog in the street. I think that that's
Speaker 1: just like decorum and knowing that that's not that's different,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, I also think I'm
Speaker 1: really intrigued by this now because it's a really fun
Speaker 1: way to get back at the person who's yelling at
Speaker 1: you for eating meat. Yeah, it's like, well, well, just
Speaker 1: so you know, I don't do this because of the
Speaker 1: you know, environmental things blah blah blah blah um and
Speaker 1: you just saying like, Okay, yes, I totally understand. I
Speaker 1: still definitely am gonna do it because I like cheeseburgers
Speaker 1: and that's something I was raised with it. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to change my diet. But thank you for what
Speaker 1: you've said to just be like, but you know, in things,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that more than the ads who have been like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat two for you, then spiteful comeback of like,
Speaker 1: well you don't, well, I'm gonna eat so much now
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know. It does remind me of
Speaker 1: a great Margat show though, from one of her albums,
Speaker 1: which is um, vegetarians are so mean because they're hungry.
Speaker 1: I love it. She again another stand up who was
Speaker 1: just an incredible performer, and you could tell because there
Speaker 1: would just be these long silences and the audience is
Speaker 1: dying and me at home listening off my like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what was that at the time, like Kaza,
Speaker 1: like I would just die as well, laughing imagining whatever
Speaker 1: she was doing. I feel like my parents took me
Speaker 1: to see her at some point, you know, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I don't. I feel like I have a glimpse of
Speaker 1: a member because I was like, I was very young
Speaker 1: when I listen to these comedy albums, so they knew
Speaker 1: I liked them. Maybe I don't know, I have a glimpse.
Speaker 1: Maybe it took me to a different, different show. But
Speaker 1: I feel like I saw you, felt you felt so
Speaker 1: connected to the material that you felt like you were
Speaker 1: in the room. Maybe maybe I mean there is her
Speaker 1: Carnegie Hall album is truly just one of the best.
Speaker 1: I think my favorite one is I'm the One that
Speaker 1: I Want. And then there's also Notorious h which Carnegie
Speaker 1: Hall really Oh, that's one. It's really good. It's just
Speaker 1: all of Carnegie Hall silent listening to this one Asian
Speaker 1: queer woman on stage. That's crazy. Um and just the whole,
Speaker 1: the whole, the whole visual of stand up is in
Speaker 1: like in like those giants years is sort of is
Speaker 1: still still amazed as me. It's like everyone's just listening
Speaker 1: to one person talk, which is it's pretty cool. It's unnatural. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's unnatural. It's It's something I think about
Speaker 1: when doing Stamp where I'm like, uh, like why do
Speaker 1: you Why is it like equated to like go into
Speaker 1: the gym and people talk about you going Mike's gotta
Speaker 1: get up there? Like why is there that sort of
Speaker 1: like repy I get your reps in? And I think
Speaker 1: it's because like it is an unnatural state, like you
Speaker 1: having all the attention of people around you, unless like
Speaker 1: you have great like like historically Actually, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: go sta because it's like that's me wax in poetic.
Speaker 1: But I think it's unnatural. It's like you have to
Speaker 1: build up a tolerance to that form of attention I
Speaker 1: think to have. I mean, same thing is acting, I suppose,
Speaker 1: but it's a but it's something we've found out. You know,
Speaker 1: putting someone in front of everyone else is something we've
Speaker 1: found out. It's not something we naturally Yeah yeah, something
Speaker 1: or something we found or is it because we found
Speaker 1: it out? You know what I mean? You have to
Speaker 1: wonder is it part of human nature to entertain each other? Um,
Speaker 1: to tell stories because we because we've been doing it
Speaker 1: for hundreds and thousands of years. A real Neil gaming
Speaker 1: right now? Come on, baby on my tiny heart. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know where that came from. Um, I should
Speaker 1: learn listeners. Be doing push ups right now? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you should probably drop down for another ten guys. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: oh this actually made me think. You know what's even
Speaker 1: more fucking unnatural, which every time I do it, I
Speaker 1: come out of the room and I'm like, that was garbage,
Speaker 1: And everyone knows this garbage is auditioning. Auditioning is the
Speaker 1: most unnatural thing, the stupidest social transaction. It's so insane
Speaker 1: and just also like just as a human thing, and
Speaker 1: I think about this more than anything else. I never
Speaker 1: think about performing as like an unnatural human thing, but
Speaker 1: whenever I audition, I'm always like, we shouldn't do that
Speaker 1: because we aren't supposed to do that as humans. Like,
Speaker 1: it's so bizarre to me. I think that about I
Speaker 1: think that about flying on a plane. Yeah, well, we're
Speaker 1: not supposed to be up there. We're not You're not
Speaker 1: supposed to be up there. I guess there. I guess
Speaker 1: that's why all those bits became a hack, because it
Speaker 1: was a thing. I was like, Oh, we had to
Speaker 1: explore this thing we shouldn't be you know. It was
Speaker 1: like a common see me on the core of the earth.
Speaker 1: You don't see me pitching a ten the corn the earth. Okay,
Speaker 1: what do you think you, Matt? What bits? Are you
Speaker 1: talking like airplane bits? That's exactly why. Yeah, that's why
Speaker 1: you saw a real, real dip and airplane bits in
Speaker 1: the past ten years. This reminds me because last time
Speaker 1: I was on an airplane. Uh. Loving Friendship was one
Speaker 1: of the movies that we could that we had the
Speaker 1: option of watching. It reminds me of my first last
Speaker 1: cultural stysm beef bringing the table right bring it forth,
Speaker 1: Come forth for Matt. You do not like Colin Firth.
Speaker 1: I never understood this. I think he's a fucking he's
Speaker 1: a poster board. What sorry about sorry about it? He is?
Speaker 1: Mr Darcy. Give me Colin Farrell every time. Give me
Speaker 1: Hugh Grant shivering and shaking. Give me Hugh Grant drenched,
Speaker 1: wet and cold, doing anything over a Colin Firth fully
Speaker 1: dry in front of a camera. Kay, So let me
Speaker 1: first make this personal for a second. All right, i'mnna
Speaker 1: make this emotional and personal. So, uh my mom would
Speaker 1: make me and my brothers watch these pride and Prejudice movies. Uh,
Speaker 1: I hear he's the defenditive, Mrs Darcy, he's a defendive.
Speaker 1: Mr Jarsey, Yes, he's the definitive. William Yes. Uh and
Speaker 1: uh we like watched them all because our mom like
Speaker 1: made us and then we grew to like become obsessed
Speaker 1: with these like Crian prejudice movies. And Colin Firth is
Speaker 1: just like he's electric in that he's so good. He's
Speaker 1: like when he comes out of the pool and he's
Speaker 1: like his shirts off and he's all like he's nervous.
Speaker 1: I believe it. Maybe it is the fact that I
Speaker 1: haven't seen those movies you got. They're so good. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen the Prime and Prejudice movies. And apparently that's
Speaker 1: like Colin Firth, like Hallmark and like his legacy project
Speaker 1: as those Pride and Prejudice movies. I haven't seen them.
Speaker 1: He's just very just classically British. Yeah, I guess, can
Speaker 1: I tell you something. I don't really respond to the
Speaker 1: British sensibility, sensibility in that regard the period British thing.
Speaker 1: I'm never going to go out of my way. Oh
Speaker 1: I see, I love that, like like the Crown. I
Speaker 1: couldn't give a fuck that like Jane Austin style, like proper,
Speaker 1: like if I breathe too hot? Thanks, just sort of
Speaker 1: like well the Master, did uh speak tenderly upon brows? Yeah? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: There's just one line from the from the Prime Prejudice
Speaker 1: of series, like I get like Mr daw No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's a It's okay. So Elizabeth is with with the Bingleys,
Speaker 1: and Miss Bingley goes. Miss Elizabeth Bennett is a great
Speaker 1: reader and she enjoys nothing else, and Elizabeth goes. I
Speaker 1: deserve neither such praise nor such censure. I am no,
Speaker 1: what's a great reader, and I enjoy anythings that's pretty
Speaker 1: good exchange, I'll get like looped in my head. That
Speaker 1: can can we say that? Elizabeth's response just word. I
Speaker 1: just want to internalize this. I deserve neither such praise
Speaker 1: nor such censure. I am not a great reader, and
Speaker 1: I enjoy many things that's pretty good. Either such praise
Speaker 1: nor such censure beautiful. I mean, come on, the language, Mama, Matt,
Speaker 1: you need to appreciate language. You're a writer. I appreciate
Speaker 1: Jane Austen. I think she's wonderful. I get the stories.
Speaker 1: I understand. I just would never seek those things out,
Speaker 1: like I really. I tried to watch The Crown and
Speaker 1: because everyone's talking about it, and I was like, if
Speaker 1: I have to watch another fucking movie watching an old
Speaker 1: British man cough, I'm gonna fucking lose it. I get it.
Speaker 1: Matter all sick. This is well, it's the same. They're
Speaker 1: all sick. You need to get it. Wait, Matt, you
Speaker 1: need to watch Fleabag. Have you seen fleabag? Is it's
Speaker 1: an Amazon It's on Amazon, and I've seen I haven't
Speaker 1: seen any Amazon thing. I don't have Amazon I haven't.
Speaker 1: I don't have Amazon. I've never seen any Amazon thing
Speaker 1: you can reference on Amazon thing. I haven't seen him, okay,
Speaker 1: and I want seen. Okay, Hey everyone, it's time to
Speaker 1: drop down and do another ten um pause, five, five, five.
Speaker 1: I think you've I think you've earned five this time.
Speaker 1: You've been doing such a good drap. So we just
Speaker 1: let's just say five is the requirement. If you want
Speaker 1: to do five more and put yourself that's fine, but
Speaker 1: also listen to this throws off the count by a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying we're either at five or we're at thirty. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that we should do ten. I think five. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, well then dude, between five and ten bringing
Speaker 1: up to or third whatever. If you're only got to
Speaker 1: do five now, you gotta do fifteen later. So I
Speaker 1: just I just want to say one thing, Matt. I
Speaker 1: think it's patently unfair for you to sweep an entire
Speaker 1: nation's culture. We're talking about culture. You're you're willing nations
Speaker 1: culture under the bus because you don't like Colin Firth.
Speaker 1: That is unfair. You need to give fleabag a chance.
Speaker 1: Oh this is this. It's not that I don't like
Speaker 1: British things in general. It's that the kind of period
Speaker 1: British stuff I don't care for. Okay, I sat down
Speaker 1: to Nabby because it was so be in a modern way.
Speaker 1: I gave up on that show. Loved it, I liked
Speaker 1: I liked it know where. I gave up on that
Speaker 1: show when everyone died uh year old were dropping like flies.
Speaker 1: I gave up on the UH. The moment when what's
Speaker 1: her name? Mary? When the rape moment, the rape moment
Speaker 1: as well, because I I felt like I just felt
Speaker 1: like this is not this. It felt like this about
Speaker 1: this recently. No, not if it was um, what's her name?
Speaker 1: The blonde Anna Anna? Yea, Yeah, it felt like a
Speaker 1: moment was like this doesn't feel like it was meant
Speaker 1: for any reason then to like throw so it felt
Speaker 1: cheap and it felt like bad and I don't want to,
Speaker 1: you know. We talked to Beth and Sarah from Reductress
Speaker 1: about this when they were on about West World, about
Speaker 1: the UH, and I talked to a lot of people
Speaker 1: that are like, you know, West World, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: watch it because it feels a little rapey to me.
Speaker 1: And we talk to them about how you know that
Speaker 1: kind of thinking it's like, well, then what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do not tell stories about people that are raped,
Speaker 1: and like the rape as a thing in the world,
Speaker 1: because rape happens in the world. And I think, what
Speaker 1: was kind of not nice or cool or interesting? I
Speaker 1: guess yeah, what was interesting about the choice to have
Speaker 1: a rape storyline on Downton Abbey is because you're in
Speaker 1: that world and you don't think about rape as a
Speaker 1: thing that happens in a place like Downton Abbey, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I think it shows would
Speaker 1: and and this is kind of interesting to me. It
Speaker 1: was like, you know, you would never would have thought
Speaker 1: you'd get the storyline on the show. But rape is
Speaker 1: a part of, you know, this kind of toxic masculine
Speaker 1: culture that definitely exists on Downton Abbey. And therefore I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, it's an interesting thing. And I
Speaker 1: remember she won some awards for performing that storyline, and
Speaker 1: she said in her speech, is like, it's really important
Speaker 1: to me to tell the story because, um, this happens
Speaker 1: to women. It has happened to women for many centuries.
Speaker 1: So I think another thing is that I would have
Speaker 1: At that time, I was watching Sons of Anarchy, which
Speaker 1: is the show I also gave up on because it
Speaker 1: was silly. Um. But I just watched this season where
Speaker 1: kay Segall's character there was a season long arc about
Speaker 1: her like dealing with the rape, and it was like, really,
Speaker 1: I thought they handled I thought she was incredible in
Speaker 1: that in that show, and I thought that was very
Speaker 1: like that. It was. It was shocking. It was like
Speaker 1: I felt like it dealt with relations and ship as well,
Speaker 1: and I really believe everything she was going through, which
Speaker 1: is really scary. And then that I watched that to
Speaker 1: Naby and it was happening, I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: and you think it just wasn't well. I was like
Speaker 1: I can't go and this is like I'm saying this
Speaker 1: and I'm admitting this is like privileged and fucking ship.
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't go through that as a
Speaker 1: viewer again, which you know what, at the moment I
Speaker 1: say that, I think I should get No, I'll take
Speaker 1: criticism for that for that. Take no, no, I don't
Speaker 1: think because it's if you didn't feel like it was
Speaker 1: being dealt with sensitively and you and like I don't. Also,
Speaker 1: you can choose what you watch also, like it does
Speaker 1: not make you privileged to say I don't want as
Speaker 1: a viewer to experience this sort of amplifying this thing
Speaker 1: that I'm already sort of processing, because it does feel
Speaker 1: like sometimes it's on every fucking show, And then you
Speaker 1: think to yourself, like, all right, you have to ask
Speaker 1: the question like are we doing this to inform and expose?
Speaker 1: Are we doing this to fucking entertain people? And if
Speaker 1: I'm watching a rape storyline to be entertained, which and which?
Speaker 1: A lot of times that is why you watch television shows,
Speaker 1: just to be entertained. And if you're finding that that's
Speaker 1: part of your entertainment, there's nothing wrong with removing yourself
Speaker 1: from that. Like, like, there was an art was it
Speaker 1: Emily nuts Bomb that was talking about that. I feel
Speaker 1: like I read some article about this recently about uh
Speaker 1: oh gosh, I love nuts Bomb. I just want to say,
Speaker 1: what was the article dealing with, you know? I think
Speaker 1: it was actually I don't remember was. I feel like
Speaker 1: it was interviewing some female show's saying like we get
Speaker 1: so many um uh spec scripts that like from men
Speaker 1: that are are there are rapes scripts? And then we
Speaker 1: get so many into like a rule of ours is
Speaker 1: that we just and if that's any of them, we
Speaker 1: just don't. We don't look at it anymore. It's like
Speaker 1: it's become a trend. It like screenwriters, it's the same
Speaker 1: thing with like it's now and this is scary, Like
Speaker 1: what like like soaps were doing in the two thousands
Speaker 1: with cancer, where it just felt like a matter of
Speaker 1: fucking time until they were going to be like a
Speaker 1: cancer storyline and we were going to go through that
Speaker 1: for eighteen episodes. It's like now it's moved on to
Speaker 1: the doing that was rape people. It's not the same
Speaker 1: fucking thing. People even writing like casual jokes about this
Speaker 1: meta story like in the ounce this in the ounce
Speaker 1: the show um One, one character has this line that goes, um,
Speaker 1: so what did do last night? I was just watching
Speaker 1: that show on HBO where they're terrible to women, Oh
Speaker 1: A true Detective, No the Jinks, no Game of Thrones,
Speaker 1: like just listing basically every HBO show and it applied
Speaker 1: and it worked as a joke and it was just
Speaker 1: awful and whatever. But it's it's it's it is like
Speaker 1: it's everywhere and I don't and I don't blame him
Speaker 1: for wanting to like disengage from Downton just because it
Speaker 1: was like so much to process. Saying I don't blame
Speaker 1: Tim is huge. Okay, I will say that. I think
Speaker 1: I've told you this, but um, this was like fresh
Speaker 1: after the election. I think this was the weekend of
Speaker 1: I was doing this show over the eight Rest in Peace.
Speaker 1: Meet You and I were doing the show there. Man,
Speaker 1: it was so sad. Um. A bunch of great people
Speaker 1: were there, but we were just also sad and none
Speaker 1: of us were funny. I was like Annifer Breaker was
Speaker 1: there at least Moalysis there. Everyone was great, but like
Speaker 1: we were just not delivering. So anyway, Meetro and I
Speaker 1: are walking home and this was right after the whole
Speaker 1: debate about the safety pins was happening, was like should
Speaker 1: they should people be wearing them? Shouldn't they? And then
Speaker 1: meet You and I were both like, it's such a stupid, bullshit,
Speaker 1: nonsense discussion that's happening, blah blah blah blah blah, and
Speaker 1: like eventually and like forgive me for for saying this,
Speaker 1: but eventually like we were just like, you know what,
Speaker 1: the only people who were having this argument who are
Speaker 1: saying that you shouldn't wear safety pins are white people
Speaker 1: and then we just like I had this whole runabout
Speaker 1: white people are terrible, blah blah blah blah. And then
Speaker 1: we ran into Tim and then we said, oh, Tim,
Speaker 1: you're one of the good ones. And then we and
Speaker 1: then we we spot off from him. We had this
Speaker 1: beautiful conversation and then Meetro just go is I just
Speaker 1: fucking love that we have that power to say who's
Speaker 1: good and who's not. It was kind of a I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's a monstrous yet funny moment to me. I
Speaker 1: don't know Tim, and Tim is one of the good ones.
Speaker 1: I have to say, I can't accept. You cannot accept it,
Speaker 1: cannot accept if you accept, if you accept, if you
Speaker 1: accept that you are, am I one of the good ones? Matt.
Speaker 1: I think if we're going to bury the hatchet, then yes,
Speaker 1: you are. I can't accept. That's right. You can can't
Speaker 1: accept Tim, Mr right, It can't accept. Otherwise it is
Speaker 1: part of the problem because I remember you guys said
Speaker 1: that to me, and I was like, if this is
Speaker 1: the test, if you said that to any moment, if
Speaker 1: you said to any person from my college, everyone, that's
Speaker 1: like everyone's college is wet dreams. By the way, Oberlin baby,
Speaker 1: which can I just say right now? First of all,
Speaker 1: probably the fucking stud of Oberlin. Yeah, he told me.
Speaker 1: He told me he almost hooked up with his r A. Oh, Tam,
Speaker 1: come on, no, we don't have to do this. Don't
Speaker 1: make him do this. We might have to cut this out.
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say. Here's what I'll say. Uh, I
Speaker 1: went to Oberlin. I enjoy Oberlin. Uh this is like
Speaker 1: a school that does not deserve national attention. Here I
Speaker 1: don't think anything. And so here's the thing. There's a
Speaker 1: lot I feel like it's become. Maybe it was before,
Speaker 1: wasn't aware of it, but I feel like Oberlin has
Speaker 1: become like a sort of a part of the culture
Speaker 1: wars in a way, like a part of like an
Speaker 1: example of college students gone awry or example of college
Speaker 1: has gone a right. And there's many examples of that,
Speaker 1: which I abe like, Yeah, that's I think that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think that stuff. But like it's a
Speaker 1: school of three thousand people like in Ohio, um, which
Speaker 1: by the way, I like, I have very I have
Speaker 1: a connection to. While I'm not saying OHI, but it's
Speaker 1: like a small school in isolation of like a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of things. It shouldn't be a national
Speaker 1: story like things are going in Oberlin should not be
Speaker 1: in the New York Times. And that's that's more than
Speaker 1: any other school because like I sees the stuff that's
Speaker 1: happening there is happening at like I don't know Bates
Speaker 1: or like read you know, like yeah, and so it
Speaker 1: does make me feel weird when that that school has
Speaker 1: become just like uh, maybe I'm maybe I'm just smar
Speaker 1: expensed to do it because I went there, But like
Speaker 1: you're always going to feel a connection to whatever anyone
Speaker 1: says about the school if you went to it is
Speaker 1: a little personal. Am I wrong to say that is
Speaker 1: not to become one of those like yeah, become one
Speaker 1: of those buzz not buzzwords, but like a late it's
Speaker 1: become a late shirts and in a post you know,
Speaker 1: Lena Dunham World, where did you go? Makes a lot
Speaker 1: of like Oberlin carries a lot of this weird stigma
Speaker 1: that's probably not deserved or or it's just yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just become this pincushion. Yeah, I mean Bowen and I
Speaker 1: went to n y U, and I think that's the
Speaker 1: school with a biggest target on its back and be
Speaker 1: it's on the biggest pedestal. It's it's like it's like both.
Speaker 1: And honestly, whenever anyone talks about n y U, I
Speaker 1: do I only am down to make cracks and jokes
Speaker 1: about n y U. I'm I'm not interested in defending
Speaker 1: it anymore. I really don't feel connected to it. I
Speaker 1: felt like I defended it really never I did because
Speaker 1: like but that I did, but without knowing what I
Speaker 1: was talking about, Like when people were coming for like
Speaker 1: John Sexton for um, you know, misusing money, and like
Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, no, he's actually a nice
Speaker 1: guy because you had you worked with him. I worked
Speaker 1: with him, and he was a nice guy. He is
Speaker 1: a nice guy and he really he was very generous.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that what he was doing wasn't
Speaker 1: fucked up. I mean I went to one of those
Speaker 1: houses that allegedly was like they used school money for
Speaker 1: like it was in looking back on what that was crazy,
Speaker 1: it's insane. And then he he resigned and he should have,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, so whenever anyone talks
Speaker 1: about n y U, I'm just like, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna feel bad about going there because like
Speaker 1: I wanted to go there, and like I what we
Speaker 1: got out of it, I think was great, which was
Speaker 1: the connections and like being in the city and it
Speaker 1: was great. Butt you met is a connection. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I'll say that when I moved here,
Speaker 1: I was like I had a chip on my shoulder
Speaker 1: people I met through. Yeah, I know, do you guys? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I talked about it. Yeah, I talked about it. I
Speaker 1: don't have a problem talking about here from me. You bit,
Speaker 1: I'll come for you. You guys all knew each other.
Speaker 1: You knew what the institutions where you know, what was
Speaker 1: happening you. You were able to see younger comedians and
Speaker 1: older comedians figuring themselves out before anyone else didn't. And
Speaker 1: then then and then I got here, what's going on
Speaker 1: and all these people, like I knew what was going on?
Speaker 1: I was like I had friends. It was definitely cool
Speaker 1: to be close to. Like, yeah, I will say this,
Speaker 1: I still felt like this does not absolve me of anything,
Speaker 1: but I still felt like I was in my m
Speaker 1: U bubble right right after. Like I didn't take my
Speaker 1: first youth for at least two and a half years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't stay in didn't take my first ECB class
Speaker 1: until the summer after college, and I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: finally I'll break out of the Washington Square Park area,
Speaker 1: you know. And also sometimes I wonder, like what it
Speaker 1: would have been like to actually go to a school
Speaker 1: that was to New York and then have moved to
Speaker 1: New York, because that's like going to college again, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, but this time you don't have
Speaker 1: the built in community. You do have to figure it out,
Speaker 1: you like, how did you meet people when you moved here?
Speaker 1: Story Parts Ye, Story Parts that was huge even for us,
Speaker 1: I will say, is the most positive comedy community in
Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, definitely. And I feel like I've like
Speaker 1: I've like diptoes in many different comedy communities. Story Pirates
Speaker 1: is the most positive. If you don't know what story
Speaker 1: Parts is, you should log onto story parts dot org
Speaker 1: or look up the story Parts on YouTube and just
Speaker 1: watch some of the videos. It's like an art education
Speaker 1: collective and it's based in New York and Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: and basically we take stories that are written by children,
Speaker 1: elementary school aged kids and make them into um sketch
Speaker 1: shows and musical numbers and stuff. And perform them for
Speaker 1: the kids and it's really motivating and it's great. And
Speaker 1: I met Tim and fell in love with him instantly
Speaker 1: when I met him because he because he did object
Speaker 1: work digging, and I was like, that's him Tim. When
Speaker 1: I first met Tim was he was the penguin that
Speaker 1: had to go acrost across the ocean. I first met
Speaker 1: Tim to story Parrots too, and just seeing him as
Speaker 1: one of he was a year older than my class,
Speaker 1: but he was at that at that point that I
Speaker 1: was already in the cast. He was so sharp and
Speaker 1: good and just yeah, you're good story pirate. And I
Speaker 1: was like, really talking funny and I wasn't and I've
Speaker 1: said this to him before, was very intimidated by him. Yes, same,
Speaker 1: that's so funny to me because you guys were so good,
Speaker 1: because I like, I know, I feel like it's a
Speaker 1: very specific performance style because you have to perform for kids,
Speaker 1: so it's very like you're like a flat character, you know,
Speaker 1: you have a living cartoon. Yes, And I feel like
Speaker 1: both of you were like so uh, instantly perfect at it.
Speaker 1: It's because we are living cartoons. Yeah, Well, you know,
Speaker 1: if you want to talk about what if you want
Speaker 1: about culture. I like to talk about culture inspired it.
Speaker 1: What about cartoons? Back to I'm gonna go all the
Speaker 1: way back to the Mask the Mad. That movie changed
Speaker 1: my life to carry his Beast and I saw it
Speaker 1: and I was like, Oh, I want to be an
Speaker 1: actor because I saw that movie. And I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: a human can be a cartoon. Oh what's he doing?
Speaker 1: Oh he's acting. Okay, Like that's what that's People don't
Speaker 1: count that as acting. That's exactly right. Because Tim and
Speaker 1: I have had lengthy conversations about Jim Carrey specifically and
Speaker 1: about just as a kid. You watch him in Aspenter
Speaker 1: and I was as a kid, was like, he's the
Speaker 1: funniest person. Absolutely, absolutely him and as Pentura him and
Speaker 1: I mean, my favorite one. And this is like grounded
Speaker 1: for him. But was Liar Liar? To me? Liar Liar
Speaker 1: is one of the best performances ever. And I think
Speaker 1: it's the first hint you get that he's actually a
Speaker 1: great dramatic actor. The pen scene. The pen scene is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Just what happens the entire movie, and then the moment
Speaker 1: when he's like, I'm not a good father and he
Speaker 1: realizes that he said it like that to me was
Speaker 1: like the first hint that what actually is there under
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey is like actually like an iconic talent, you
Speaker 1: know what. My parents knew I loved Jim Carrey, and
Speaker 1: so they took me to see Man on the Moon
Speaker 1: in theaters, which was like, I don't know who. Andy
Speaker 1: Kaufman was like I love Jim Carrey and like uh,
Speaker 1: and that movie also changed my life. I would have
Speaker 1: introduced by this dude who was now one of my
Speaker 1: you know, inspirations. And do you ever sw that movie?
Speaker 1: I've ever seen that the Room. So the opening of
Speaker 1: it is him as Andy doing the credits, and he
Speaker 1: goes like, I'm not I can't do his voice. But
Speaker 1: he goes like, oh, usually see credits in the beginning
Speaker 1: of the end of the movie, but they're always boring,
Speaker 1: So now we're gonna do it at the beginning, and
Speaker 1: then he puts on the record and the credits go
Speaker 1: in the beginning, And from then I was like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: like you can like with the form, which as a
Speaker 1: kid is really important to see exemplified. That is huge.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that that we haven't talked about Jim
Speaker 1: Carrey on the podcast Jim Carrey is truly one of
Speaker 1: the first inspiration. Yeah, he's I mean just watching him
Speaker 1: in interviews where he would just like make these fucking
Speaker 1: crazy faces and I would be like, and do you
Speaker 1: see like old videos of him when he's just an
Speaker 1: impression But before he was even a stand up, it's
Speaker 1: just an impressionist. Before he would do an impression, he
Speaker 1: would like wrinkle his face. Do you know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about? He was like wrinkles face, so of just
Speaker 1: like to get into it. And it's sort of like
Speaker 1: him like flexing little because it him just like showing
Speaker 1: how much control he had. Yeah. I think I read
Speaker 1: some article where he like when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: maybe like Disney Adventure magazine, where he was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd make I'd make faces in the mirror as a kid.
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, then I'm gonna do that too.
Speaker 1: He to me is the epitome of commitment and energy,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's unrivaled in those two areas.
Speaker 1: Like even when you see him come on like a
Speaker 1: like an a word show now and he has to
Speaker 1: do a bit he killed, he kills and no one
Speaker 1: is like that. I think he will be very, very
Speaker 1: he will, his legacy will be a very good one.
Speaker 1: I mean even now, it's like you look back at
Speaker 1: his career, I mean like Truman, Yeah, Truman Show, and
Speaker 1: like Eternal Sunshine came out. I was just like, this
Speaker 1: guy is just like amazing performances, Truman Show, Man in
Speaker 1: the Moon. I assume um the grnch amazing performance. We
Speaker 1: have talked about the Grinch episode, but we talked about
Speaker 1: we talked about Faith Hill. We did not talk about
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey, Paige me Press the Stalk. Okay, what we've
Speaker 1: we've we've quoted that line before you got to you
Speaker 1: gotta see the Grinch because not only is he given
Speaker 1: an amazing performance, but also like a lot of people
Speaker 1: are like, it's like biller Win is in and he's
Speaker 1: so good. The mayor of who we, Christine Baranski is
Speaker 1: the next day putting upper lights and that tailor mom.
Speaker 1: Seasonally it's not appropriate anymore, but still see it. Yeah, Seasonally,
Speaker 1: culturally it's important. I'll see a Christmas movie in the summer. Dude,
Speaker 1: you're honestly wild. I like, actually, don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, um, time to drop into ten guys
Speaker 1: at this time. Time to drop into ten. So um, guys,
Speaker 1: um listen. I want to know, Tim, what have you
Speaker 1: seen this year? What's coming up for the Oscars that
Speaker 1: you're like, Hell yeah, you are you tuned in? Because
Speaker 1: I want to keep this part of the podcast because
Speaker 1: they're coming up. Okay, okay, um. I feel like I
Speaker 1: haven't really seen that much that many movies recently. One
Speaker 1: are the best pictures. I mean, you know what, The
Speaker 1: last movie I saw is Mowanna. If we want to
Speaker 1: get into it, oh, I don't think. No, I don't
Speaker 1: know trigger word. I don't want to get into it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it. I will say,
Speaker 1: I will say I would you like it? I did
Speaker 1: like it. I loved it. Actually talking about this, you know,
Speaker 1: I was very bored by Mowanna. And that's this. That's
Speaker 1: just the reason why I didn't like it very much
Speaker 1: because it bored me. I thought I thought that it
Speaker 1: could have been better based on the standards of all
Speaker 1: the Disney movies I've seen. It just been swept away
Speaker 1: by That's my only problem. And I we watched we
Speaker 1: saw together, and the reprise of How Far All Go
Speaker 1: was so moving and beautiful. I just lifted us up
Speaker 1: and then it just sort of left us hanging for
Speaker 1: the rest of the movie. It's frustrating when you see
Speaker 1: a movie that's capable of so much and then like
Speaker 1: it just doesn't deliver that throughout. I so I I
Speaker 1: see that. I see that for me. I was with
Speaker 1: it the whole time. I thought looked beautiful. I thought
Speaker 1: all the music was great. I was like I was
Speaker 1: laughing that. I was laughing at the Dumas rooster. I
Speaker 1: love that little thing. But I've come around on the
Speaker 1: rooster because I know that this is the thing. I
Speaker 1: used to say it should have been the pig, but
Speaker 1: the fact that it should have been the pig and
Speaker 1: it was the rooster is what's so great. And that's
Speaker 1: the subversion that I was looking for in the movie,
Speaker 1: because I was like, where was the sub version? Which
Speaker 1: was a dumb thing to stay. Looking back, I just
Speaker 1: didn't like. I just didn't like the movie. But I
Speaker 1: think it's so funny. The up top of this cute
Speaker 1: pig has made such a big part of it, and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I'm still ray for this pig. Know,
Speaker 1: he was cracking me up, and it's like, oh, who's
Speaker 1: in here with me? Like that's gonna be the pig
Speaker 1: and it's like the Okay, I will say this because
Speaker 1: because I said this in the thread, the thread about
Speaker 1: ma wanna Um, because I I think the first song
Speaker 1: in that movie is like so wonderful and I haven't
Speaker 1: seen a song like that in a Disney movie where
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I love where I'm from, I want,
Speaker 1: I want to have more, but I still love where
Speaker 1: I'm from. And to she like, you know this little
Speaker 1: town sucks? You know no? And I love how that
Speaker 1: song you write to him. I I completely agree. I
Speaker 1: love how that song frames responsibility in a very positive way,
Speaker 1: and she as a protagonist, is receiving them and saying, yes,
Speaker 1: I am going to be a leader. This is what
Speaker 1: I have to do. And she's not like it's not
Speaker 1: a spiteful thing at all. Yeah, and no one leaves,
Speaker 1: that's right, we stay. I liked so much of the music.
Speaker 1: I liked Your Welcome, and I really liked um the
Speaker 1: when the grandmother returns as a spirit spoiler and she's like, uh,
Speaker 1: you remember what I must what I have told you,
Speaker 1: and she's like, I am the daughter of and then
Speaker 1: she the last thing is yeah, I also love hasn't
Speaker 1: always been this. I can't tell you something I hated that,
Speaker 1: I know. I think you have a good point, Like
Speaker 1: that is like why hap that that it doesn't need
Speaker 1: It's like it's a screenplay moment, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't need to be there. But I think
Speaker 1: that song and that vocal performance is like fucking cool
Speaker 1: from but also like it's up my alley, you know
Speaker 1: it's that. Yeah, it's such a was such a Tim
Speaker 1: platinum moment. I saw it. I was like, this is Tim.
Speaker 1: Don't give me the Hawaana, don't give me the how
Speaker 1: far I'll go reprise and then give me that crap singing. Look, look, look,
Speaker 1: I think I think it's Matt has this relationship with
Speaker 1: Frozen where we saw it together in the theater, didn't
Speaker 1: love it, but then you saw it again with kids
Speaker 1: or in another context got on board with I think
Speaker 1: I will give Moana another shot. It's not that I
Speaker 1: love Frozen and therefore everything else is disqualified. I just no.
Speaker 1: But that is like that is like a feeling that
Speaker 1: is out there, you know what I mean. It's like,
Speaker 1: well it wasn't as good as Frozen. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like that's like a sentiment which is like, you gotta
Speaker 1: choose either Tangled or Frozen, which is like a fun
Speaker 1: conversation to have, but like not want to actually believe.
Speaker 1: But I do think there's this thing out there which
Speaker 1: is like the people that like Frozen, the people that
Speaker 1: don't like Frozen, and the people that like Frozen like
Speaker 1: people assume that we think it's the best fucking thing
Speaker 1: ever because it did do so unbelievably well. I just
Speaker 1: think Frozen is great because it it took a step
Speaker 1: forward for me in terms of what those Disney movies
Speaker 1: could be and eventually ended up being a love story
Speaker 1: between the sisters. I get if like the movie board
Speaker 1: you and like, you know, the let it Go sequence
Speaker 1: is the only good sequence. I understand people saying that
Speaker 1: I just, you know, preferred the the creative, innovative way
Speaker 1: that the storytelling was. Okay, As someone who doesn't care
Speaker 1: for Frozen or Mowanna, I just want to say one
Speaker 1: of the best movies, full stop is Wreck It, Ralph.
Speaker 1: Everyone must see it. You haven't seen it yet. I haven't.
Speaker 1: I want to see it, Tim, I think it's going
Speaker 1: to blow your mind. Okay, I also want to see
Speaker 1: uh Joel posted about Storks being better than the Utopia,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if that wasn't. I think I
Speaker 1: do want to see saying because I've heard great things.
Speaker 1: I want to seeing too because there's music in it,
Speaker 1: because I'm allergic to any animated movies that doesn't have
Speaker 1: any music except Monsters, inc. I love Monsters. I just
Speaker 1: saw and I thought that was good. I thought that
Speaker 1: was a good movie. I didn't I liked the movie,
Speaker 1: but people were really just it didn't hit the heights set.
Speaker 1: It was the people telling me that that's what I
Speaker 1: was expecting a lot, and I enjoyed it. I enjoyed
Speaker 1: it as well. So Joel was joking about Storks. No,
Speaker 1: I think he must generally will follow up with Joel,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gonna I'm gonna ask him. I
Speaker 1: was really excited by that take because I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess I'll watched Storks like I went to have
Speaker 1: watched because it's it's a movie that I feel like
Speaker 1: I would not have watched. And then it got this
Speaker 1: glowing response from out of nowhere, and so I was excited.
Speaker 1: I was excited to be like my jumping into this thing,
Speaker 1: you know what can go see storks together that I
Speaker 1: would like that. I would like that. I would do
Speaker 1: another ten. Um, it's time to do another ten. And
Speaker 1: while you're doing that ten, it's time for everyone to
Speaker 1: get ready for the signature, the signature honey moment and
Speaker 1: every last culture this episode it's I don't think so honey,
Speaker 1: And this is our opportunity here on loss. Culture's just
Speaker 1: to take that one thing that's really been pushing our
Speaker 1: proverbial buttons and rail against it for one minute on
Speaker 1: the clock. Now, both our guest Tim and Bowen have
Speaker 1: their heads in their hands and they're they're stressed. What's
Speaker 1: going on? I just don't know. This is truly the
Speaker 1: most unprepared, like even off the cuff, because you're just
Speaker 1: so happy in your life. No, it's just that I
Speaker 1: feel like I've really just directed my frustration and my
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, nous at a lot of
Speaker 1: different things, and I don't know if I'm running out
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Well, how about you start, Matt.
Speaker 1: I would like to start, because I do have one okay,
Speaker 1: so I'll set the clock for you, and i'd like
Speaker 1: open hearts and open minds. If that's okay, depends it depends.
Speaker 1: I grant you that, but that's alone. Here we go
Speaker 1: okay because Matt Rodgers, I don't think so, honey. Time
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. The Starbucks that
Speaker 1: are popping up all over the city, that put a
Speaker 1: lot of their money into their aesthetic and not on
Speaker 1: more seats, Come on, we need more seats and Starbucks.
Speaker 1: If I go to a Starbus or if I live
Speaker 1: near near a Starbucks, I want to be able to
Speaker 1: sit down, bitch. I want to be able to go
Speaker 1: there and use the WiFi. Hello, bitch, I just moved
Speaker 1: into an apartment with my boyfriend Henry, who's a lovely,
Speaker 1: amazing person. But you know what, sometimes he's teaching a lesson.
Speaker 1: It needs to be on the keys, tinkling tinkling away.
Speaker 1: He's a musician, he's loud, and I would like to
Speaker 1: go to a starbust to be able to sit down.
Speaker 1: But no, you put your budget into the fucking walls
Speaker 1: being made out of like like like, oh, I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, I need a fucking seat. How come
Speaker 1: there's four seats in here and fucking eight lamps. I
Speaker 1: don't need more lamps, bitch, I need somewhere to sit.
Speaker 1: Also make it easier for me to love into your wife.
Speaker 1: I God damn it. How come it takes me like
Speaker 1: no time to fucking get my VENTI drink, but fift
Speaker 1: twenty minutes the standard of the WiFi. If you know
Speaker 1: anything Starbucks, you know that people use you to sit
Speaker 1: down and hang out as much as they do for drinks.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Change okay, And that's one minute.
Speaker 1: That was one of my best ones ever. Really. That
Speaker 1: was really because I feel like I made my point
Speaker 1: and I feel like now there'll be a change that's
Speaker 1: I measure my I don't think so, honey. And do
Speaker 1: I think after the fact that something will change? And
Speaker 1: I think this is what Matt, This is what Matt
Speaker 1: is to enact, and uh, you know effect change in
Speaker 1: lieu of having senators who are in opposition of him?
Speaker 1: Is that right? Because you know what? Yes, I am
Speaker 1: from New York born and raised, and therefore, like I
Speaker 1: call my senators and like, yeah, I know, yeah, I
Speaker 1: also I'm outraged at the same but um, but now
Speaker 1: you have a place I have a place to put
Speaker 1: my anger in. Its Starbucks. That said it's important to
Speaker 1: call senators about specifics because we were just joking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I because I want to say that. It's also nice
Speaker 1: to say thank you. I tweeted Brandon. I said thank
Speaker 1: you because I think her. I think she's the fucking best.
Speaker 1: She's the rock star. And to Tim we finished that thought,
Speaker 1: um that because with all the stuff that's happening, it's
Speaker 1: very easy to call it and just be like protect
Speaker 1: us from Trump, you know, but like it's so much
Speaker 1: helpful and be like, oh, like through it was saying
Speaker 1: all the the people that you have a problem with
Speaker 1: the specific ability of problem with is very Uh. I
Speaker 1: think it's good. It's good for you, and it's good
Speaker 1: for the for the for them. Yes, every time I
Speaker 1: talk about this stuff, I feel like I'm just like
Speaker 1: reciting things I've read. But then you eventually you a
Speaker 1: master you you get your own vocabulary for it, and
Speaker 1: that's when that's when you break through. Because I feel
Speaker 1: like I haven't been emotional. I feel you talked about
Speaker 1: being an emotional on the phone with your with your
Speaker 1: standards and representatives, and I feel like I'm still very Metrick.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read this script thank you like I feel
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I feel like I'm talking to
Speaker 1: like my teacher's mom or something like that. If if
Speaker 1: this helps. I usually don't read from a script, but
Speaker 1: I will like pour over some get a sense of
Speaker 1: what I want to say, and then I will physically
Speaker 1: This is the sounds weird, but it's just because it's
Speaker 1: like the only place at work where I can do
Speaker 1: this in privacy, because I will go to the back
Speaker 1: and just go into the darkest corner and feel physically
Speaker 1: sort of just like I have to really just surround
Speaker 1: myself with what, like I don't know, with something that
Speaker 1: matches the sentiment or whatever, and then I'll just go
Speaker 1: into I'm never angry. I just get I'm never emotional,
Speaker 1: I should say, I get just a little snippy, but
Speaker 1: appropriately and politely. So like today I called UM. Famously,
Speaker 1: my representative walked snuck out of a town hall meeting
Speaker 1: that was that was my representative from my district. And
Speaker 1: I called his office today and one of his staffers,
Speaker 1: very nice guy UM took a message for me and
Speaker 1: I said, Hi, I just want to UM say that
Speaker 1: I think it's unfortunate that Congressman and Kaufman left his
Speaker 1: own town hall meeting. UM. But if he is, but
Speaker 1: if he's afraid of a hostile reception, I just think
Speaker 1: he needs to see that as a way of his
Speaker 1: constituents UM holding him accountable. So UM, I would encourage
Speaker 1: him to really um have more FaceTime with his with
Speaker 1: with the people he represents. And that's all I have
Speaker 1: to say. Like that was just a more tame way
Speaker 1: of me to just be like, hey, that was sucking stupid.
Speaker 1: Why did you do that? You know, there's always like
Speaker 1: a positive way to read them. Okay, you need more time?
Speaker 1: Or should tim go? No? Um, I can go okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I have one, but I don't want to do that one. Sure, No,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I just just came up with mine.
Speaker 1: And this is the beauty if I don't think so honey,
Speaker 1: And I told him this, um, you know, the the
Speaker 1: less significant Sometimes it's nice and we whip out our
Speaker 1: improv backgrounds and bone Yang's. I don't think so honey
Speaker 1: starts right now. I don't think so honey. Uber drivers
Speaker 1: who do not stop at where they designated place marker
Speaker 1: on your map is there was a reason that the
Speaker 1: user is able to designate the pickup spot. And I
Speaker 1: will do my best, my best, and Matt can vouch
Speaker 1: for this, and Tim can vouch for this. I will
Speaker 1: do my best to go to the exact spot where
Speaker 1: the pin has dropped. And honey, these drivers don't know
Speaker 1: they're way around to the city blocks and cities are
Speaker 1: supposed to be familiar with that they're being paid to
Speaker 1: be familiar with. And honey, they ask me what roots
Speaker 1: to go and oh, don't even at me started. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. On drivers, taxi drivers, uber drivers, whatever,
Speaker 1: who asked you to navigate for them, Oh, that is unacceptable.
Speaker 1: Download ways for your phone, download any for your phone.
Speaker 1: This is unacceptable. I don't think so. Many drivers who
Speaker 1: do are not good at their jobs. I will give
Speaker 1: you a two star reading. I will never give you
Speaker 1: one star wating unless you slap me in the face.
Speaker 1: But I don't think so, honey. Drivers who do not
Speaker 1: do not respect this transaction of them knowing their way
Speaker 1: around the goddamn city, bitch. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Uber drivers named Jordan's or whatever, or greg I've had
Speaker 1: bad Greg's and and they they are bad drivers. One minute,
Speaker 1: Gregs are bad drivers. Think this is the first time
Speaker 1: in the podcast history that Matt hasn't interrupted Bowen's I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. You know, he's like, really shady
Speaker 1: of you to say it's especially in lieu of recent conflicts. Well,
Speaker 1: I just did the last episode. You mean because I
Speaker 1: was that's because my personality and characters being attacked live.
Speaker 1: It was just really nice to see you hold your
Speaker 1: tongue for once, and that was really I hope you'll
Speaker 1: take that one forward. Well. I hope that I continue
Speaker 1: to do bet through of this podcast, that I do
Speaker 1: that today behavior, honey, I don't you know. I think
Speaker 1: push ups. Um, I think I do fine. I think
Speaker 1: you do such a good job. You do ten plush
Speaker 1: ups or else you're gonna be fucked up. All right,
Speaker 1: your arms are going to be uneven and sucked up.
Speaker 1: I have one of them happy with Okay, great, I
Speaker 1: wasn't all that you kind of say, I wasn't all
Speaker 1: the way happy with mine. That's fine, Bowen Platt starts
Speaker 1: right now. I don't think so, honey. Coffee shops where
Speaker 1: you when I ask you if there's WiFi and you
Speaker 1: say yes, there's WiFi, and I get a coffee and
Speaker 1: I get a pastry, and I sit down, and I
Speaker 1: opened up my laptop and there's no WiFi. And I go,
Speaker 1: what can I say? There's no WiFi? And the go, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I guess it's not working. Why did you tell me
Speaker 1: there was WiFi? When I bought with my own money
Speaker 1: coffee and I set up a space I could get
Speaker 1: coffee and pastry anywhere with WiFi. That's why I bought.
Speaker 1: I bought a ticket to WiFi, and you said, your
Speaker 1: ticket is accepted. And then I got to the fucking
Speaker 1: sign and it turns out it was a steel ticket.
Speaker 1: You can't rip in half and give you my have back.
Speaker 1: Now I'm stuck there. What are they gonna do? Free?
Speaker 1: Write on a fucking word document? No, I wanted to
Speaker 1: do right? Or do it? No? I want you to Spotify. No,
Speaker 1: I want to Facebook when I get a little bit
Speaker 1: bored of writing. And you betrayed me, and I should
Speaker 1: get my money back and you should give me a
Speaker 1: free pastry next time. That was the most monstrous I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, yet I love it. I love
Speaker 1: that you took it in a whole new direction. Every
Speaker 1: part of it has been rebranded. That was amazing. You
Speaker 1: know what, You're absolutely right, It's absolutely right. It does
Speaker 1: drive me insane. Happens all the time. And a thing
Speaker 1: where it's like yeah, of course, like it's nothing. It's
Speaker 1: like one of those like true, like what am I
Speaker 1: gonna If I complain about this, I would be a monster,
Speaker 1: you know if I was like But also also you
Speaker 1: that's why you spent the money there, you know. It's
Speaker 1: it's a con. It's insane that that's yeah, that is
Speaker 1: that's part of the deal. And that's the problem I
Speaker 1: have with Starbucks too. Why when I go in there
Speaker 1: do I have to answer goddamn questionnaire When I get
Speaker 1: to get into your wife, you don't have to, well, Matt,
Speaker 1: that's because you don't have to. I think you have
Speaker 1: to fill out of tests if I have to do
Speaker 1: a test. Um guys, ten more push ups as we
Speaker 1: um as we sail out here, guys, Tim, We're gonna
Speaker 1: be on your showy Sloop generally on Wednesday at the
Speaker 1: Brick Theater at eight p m. Pierre Mills, wife and
Speaker 1: Lola Ramirez and I are hosting Sloop Gumley and it's
Speaker 1: a great show because we like to bring performers from
Speaker 1: different performance worlds, like uh, we have like a writer
Speaker 1: and playwright who's reading. We have a comedian what's it?
Speaker 1: Oh fu um? We also have cocoon dance dances, we
Speaker 1: have we have we have people from different performance worlds
Speaker 1: and very exciting and Sluck is going to be like
Speaker 1: of course Bowen and I will be performing as Sluck
Speaker 1: and we have not performed it. Suck minute sometimes so
Speaker 1: you know what the kids are thirsty first lock and
Speaker 1: oh god, I just want to say I love that
Speaker 1: name sleep Jumble. Yes, so, uh, Peter and Lordla and
Speaker 1: I were meeting and uh we were like on the
Speaker 1: kick of like doing songs with reference that that slanted,
Speaker 1: and I said, oh, sloop jumble and we laughed and
Speaker 1: then I was like this is the way, and both
Speaker 1: that's how sloop, that's how last Culture is. That's good.
Speaker 1: I was like, what if it's called last culture stuffs
Speaker 1: and Bone was like that's so stupid and just laughed.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, well we have to do it.
Speaker 1: And then that was how we knew if you laugh
Speaker 1: at it, you should marry it. Alright, guys, can I
Speaker 1: I want to tell one quick story before we go.
Speaker 1: So me and my high school best friend Ken were
Speaker 1: playing volleyball in the backyard, and his little sister Kathleen,
Speaker 1: who was five, was in the garden with her dad,
Speaker 1: and Kathleen was very um, very like garious, and she said,
Speaker 1: I love tomatoes. And the dad said, well, if you
Speaker 1: love tomato so much, why don't you marry it, because
Speaker 1: he had like a goofy sense of humor. And Kathleen said, well,
Speaker 1: because you know you can't dance with it. And that's
Speaker 1: why I love kids. Everyone to look up story, parents,
Speaker 1: guys our thanks to Tim Platt. Tim. They can find
Speaker 1: you on social media on Instagram at I am King Bozoh.
Speaker 1: On Twitter, Twitter is just Timothy Platt. Timothy Platt. I'm
Speaker 1: on Facebook at Tim Platt. But that took Facebook off
Speaker 1: my phone so it won't be the responsive. That's very
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Speaker 1: love you so much, Thank you so much. We're gonna
Speaker 1: kiss you, Tim. This this isnt Roger's is the last
Speaker 1: culture podcast. Thanks Forever dogg and thank you bye bye. Tim.
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