1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: My grandma and your grandma wasting bad fun my grandma 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: to your grandma. I'm gonna say funny, you're talking about him. 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: I go on Date Jagomo, Nick Jagomo, Celebrate good Times, 4 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: Come on Celebratti Hoot and Uh, guys, this is Matt 5 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Rogers and um, if you listened, uh, if you're a 6 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: listener of the podcast, you'll know that Bone and I 7 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: are in a little bit of an argument right now. 8 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: One would call it a feud starring Susan Surrandon and 9 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: just now, Um Bowen came for me on the podcast 10 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: the segment I don't think so, honey, and both Bowen 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: and our guest Chrissy Shackelford said, I don't think so, honey, 12 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: Matt fucking Rogers. You say this as if there's no 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: precedent for it, and you historically on I believe it 14 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: was Sam Tagger its episode came for me and I 15 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. So it's not like it's not 16 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: like this is this is hasn't been done before. You 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: know what, I'm just saying, like, are we on good 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: terms or not? Well, I don't know, Matt, it seems 19 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: like we're on great terms. But then as soon as 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: as soon as our producer Alex hits record. You know, 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: are you saying I'm playing a role on this podcast, 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: You're saying I'm not being my real ground itself. Are 23 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: you're saying, and I'm not bringing the T one hundred. 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: You're you're not bringing the T one hundred. You're you're 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: putting on a mask. I am bringing the T one hundred, 26 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: Arnold Swartzenegger and the first film of Terminator. Honey, that's 27 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: me always. Well, girl, you know what I'm I'm willing 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: to just keep this ball in the air while we're recording, 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: and if you want to, if you want to come 30 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: for me, bitch, then stay then stay for me. Okay, 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: stay for a while, and you the listeners, stay for 32 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: a while. You better stay for our guest. Such an 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: amazing guest, and it's a first for us, and we'll 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 1: get that first. We'll get to that in a moment um. 35 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: You know, our guest from Cartoon Monsoon unbelievable, incredible show 36 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: here in New York and also his work with Mofri 37 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: Passic in the group SEC and Plat all around the 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: city doing amazing work. One of my favorite duos. I 39 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: think you guys are incredible microphone scenes, honey. He also 40 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: is known renowned for his gift cards and greeting cards. 41 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: You can find them at I Love gift Cards dot 42 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: com dot com or on his Instagram at I Am 43 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: King Bozo. And you might also have seen him on 44 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: the special without Brett Davis as a frequent guest. He 45 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: um gosh, is he has this one has a screen presence. 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: He's all over the place. And let me tell you something. 47 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: He jumps off the screen. He jumps off the stage 48 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: and he's jumping into your ears right now. Everybody, please 49 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: please welcome wonderful, lovely boy. Wonderful lovely boy. I think 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: that's you. I'll take. I'll take lovely boy. You don't 51 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: want to be wonderful? Which Tim has been this self 52 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: labeled best boy? Best boy? That was? I don't know 53 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: if that was self labeled. Maybe not the best boy. 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: I know Anna calls me best times. Maybe it's like 55 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: a story parents thing, but it's been hurled at me 56 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: and I've accepted it with open arm. I think you 57 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: are the best boy. In fact, I think you're the 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: best boy so much that I'm ready to announce it. 59 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: Announced Tim Platt is the first straight man to guess 60 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: on lost cultures that congratulations, this is unprecedented hunting. I mean, 61 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: don't ever say last culture assess didn't give you a diversity. No, 62 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: finally we are giving you color and life. Finally spice 63 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: with Tim Platt. I'm incredibly happy to be here and 64 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: incredibly honored could be here, and I might much appreciate 65 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: everything that you all do. That's such a real thing though. 66 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: It's like when I was growing up, like the straight 67 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: the when I was trying to be straight in school 68 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: and I talk like this, like I brought my voice 69 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: down't like this, like it's really spoken, like a voice 70 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: is like a little bit lower. And I heard recently 71 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: heard my like eleven year old cousin doing it, and 72 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: I was like I wanted to get down at his 73 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: level and be like, don't do it. It's like a 74 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: young boy. I think it's like the talk lower than 75 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: you usually than you you're supposed to talk, or like 76 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: the idea that you can like fool someone by talking 77 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: like this if it sounds incredibly forced and like the 78 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: young young I love young boys because they like have 79 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: such goofy gay little instincts, but they they mask them. 80 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 1: They get to a certain point and it's like no, 81 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: like guns and stuff. They make a decision that intimacy 82 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: is like a problem. They make it. That's what it is, 83 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: an act decision I think young boys make and then 84 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: like and then it will come out and they'll be like, 85 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: oh no, we can't be like we can't love each other, 86 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: we can't love each other, we can't touch each other. 87 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: But little boys always on top of each other. What 88 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: you too, specifically do, Matt and Tim, you guys will 89 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: choose to pull out the you know, the gravelly gruff, 90 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: lower timber voice, and viscerally when either of you do, 91 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: it's specifically it's for you too. Viscerally it's just painful 92 00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: for me to listen to because it's I don't know 93 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: why if it takes me back somewhere, if it takes 94 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: me back to a certain person for real, Like if 95 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: that sounds like serious, very much appreciate that, but I 96 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: have to say that, like your pain is like not 97 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: my fault, literally quite honestly not my problem. And honest see, 98 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: if you were like in like in this school right now, 99 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: like people would come at you if you can seriously 100 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: for real, you don't want to like, honestly, I yeah, 101 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: oh my god, imagine imagine imagine living like that disgusting 102 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: that's Long Island. Though. Wow. My dad like he like 103 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: he wants me to be like a business major, and 104 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: like I I kind of think I want to major 105 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: in English, but I don't. It's like it's like a um, so, 106 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: now we're talking and we're living in the past. I 107 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: think this is a great opportunity, yes, to ask Tima 108 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: the question. I love. This question is a central question. 109 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: This is an essential question. It's what culture shaped you? Tim, 110 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about your upbringing, what made 111 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: you decide that culture was for you? What made you 112 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: say culture? I accept this. I want to pursue it. 113 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: Can I first say that before I answer this question, 114 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: I want to say that, like, as as a listener 115 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: of this podcast, I love this question so much. And 116 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: the first time I heard it, I was a little 117 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: startled because it's so vast but so specific that it's 118 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: an incredible way to open a conversation. It's just like, 119 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: I really think that what culture is for you? It's 120 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: like it's so and everybody answers a different way. Yeah, 121 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: we've had people talk about where they grew up and 122 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: just to talk about that, and then some people go 123 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: directly to like a movie or a television show. Yeah. Um, 124 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: so it's very open ended. I used to follow up 125 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: and qualify that question by saying, what movies, books, tv 126 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: would you watch that shaped you? But I feel like 127 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: that's even then too specific, and the beauty of the 128 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: question is that it's so broad and open ended. Yes, 129 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: as this beautiful que I will answer this question. Um. 130 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: I think the culture. I think the X Men were 131 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: like super huge for me, like comics, comic books and 132 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: comic strips in general, and then X Men specifically as 133 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: like a superhero team. We're really big for me, and 134 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: like one of the first things I remember being like, 135 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: I have to know everything about this. You read the 136 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: comic books, yeah, and you watched the television show yeah yeah, 137 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: and then you got into the movies when they came out. 138 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: For sure. I did like the movies I love I 139 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: mean Nightcrawler was my favorite. So like X two, I 140 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: was like that opening scene, I feel like it's been 141 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: it's been said before, it has been said before, and 142 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: it's the it's the it bothered because I haven't seen 143 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: X two. I've seen all the X Men's except X two, 144 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: when I feel like that's the one, watch like the 145 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: first fifteen minutes and then like that's it's an incredible sequence. Yeah, 146 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: the sequence of Nightcrawler like teleporting and is like super cool. Um, 147 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: everything else is like fine. I think the ending is 148 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: really great. What happens to the end again? Um, I 149 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: mean I don't want to spoil it. I mean, well, 150 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: everyone knows Gene basically dies and actually comes back in 151 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: the next one. You know what. Here's my thing, Like, 152 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: I love Jean Gray, I love the Phoenix saga. I 153 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: love it, but I think it takes over too many 154 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: narratives in the X Men uni, like every in the 155 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: whole every X Men property, like there'll be a Phoenix 156 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: storyline and just consumes every other story, which is it's 157 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: not that it's a bad story, just like it's weird 158 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: that it's the one that they chose. Yes, that's kind 159 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: of like when you hear that when there's a big 160 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: superhero movie coming out and you finally hear the announcement 161 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: of who the villain is going to be, You're like, okay, okay, cool, 162 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: that's what we're getting. Like when Spider Man three came 163 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: out with the last one with Toby Maguire and they 164 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: were like, it's gonna be Sandman and that are not Salmon. 165 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: It was Sandman and Venom and the Lizard was it 166 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: was sand Man and Venom, and I was like Sandman 167 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: and Venom. Really, that was one of the worst movies 168 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: ever saw. I remember seeing it in theaters in college 169 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: and being like really excited. That was when I still 170 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: excited about coming book to see it with my friends. 171 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: I made my friends go see it. I remember being theater, 172 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: being in the theater and like being so pissed, the 173 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: energy just dropping, yeah, like slowly maybe like oh no, 174 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: I think there's there's one good scene in it, and 175 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: it's the last scene when Kirston Dunson singing I'm through 176 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: with love, don't let its start again? Interesting in the 177 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: bar because she's like her career hasn't worked out that 178 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: well and like then, uh was that Toguara walks in 179 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: and they see each other and they just start to 180 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: slow dance. And I did think that was a really nice, 181 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: pretty scene and I actually think it's a very fitting, 182 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: nice way for that cannon of of that told me 183 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: required Kirston Dune Spider Man Movie Trilogy to end. Wasn't 184 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: wasn't he? Wasn't she in a in that movie? She 185 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: was in? What play? Was she in? She was? She was? 186 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: Which I love that play, and she's in there. I 187 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: was like, why is this play? It just smell a 188 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: weird place. His voice alone and was one with absolute credulity. 189 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Matt, I think. I think Kirsten Dunst 190 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: is sort of the proud of myself is the unsung 191 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: here of those. Kirsten Dunst is one of my favorite 192 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: actresses ever. Full stop, full stop. Were you a Kirston 193 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: Dunst boy, You're either a Kirsten Dunst boy or dichotomy. 194 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with her, but you just 195 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: don't carry either way. I guess, you know what, I 196 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: can't you know what. I guess she always does a 197 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: good job. I can't think of a movie I've seen 198 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: it anywhere I've been like her. She sucked. Yeah, no, yeah, 199 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: she yeah. I'm a I'm a Wow, I'm a Kirston 200 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: Dunst boy. Wow. That's the title of the episode. I 201 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: have a question. Okay, so this is my roommate, makes spense, 202 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: good friend of the pod listen to the pod. Is 203 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: also also really grew up on comic books, and this 204 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: is something that I as a kid wished I could access, 205 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: wished I could be because love just the artwork in general. 206 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: But I feel like I just didn't know, like where 207 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: to go. I'm surprised with that about that with you, 208 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,599 Speaker 1: I would imagine that I was just so visual. I 209 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: was definitely, Yeah, I love to draw. I loved anime shows, 210 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: which is it. It's its own little sort of different culture, 211 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, separate from comic books, like American comic books. 212 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: But I never knew like where to go. I still 213 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: feel like I don't like where you feel like often 214 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: did you go when I was a kid. So okay, well, 215 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: I will say that when I was a kid, like 216 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: with X Men, like those types of comic books, I know, 217 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: I get there. There was at least be like a 218 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: mailing service where they would mail you stuff. I had that, 219 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: and like I guess I would go to like bookstores 220 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: and then but finally comic bookshop was like when I 221 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: was in high school and I was like, oh wow, 222 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: this all this other stuff. But I remember I read 223 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: more strips like my dad had had these old like 224 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: old Calvin Hobbs and Peanuts and like Dunesbury and Bloom 225 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: County and like all that. Like I always loved those 226 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: because those were just like around. But like, to go 227 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: to a comic shop is like, I don't know, I 228 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: feel like it's kind of going to a record shop 229 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: the first time. We were like like enter a world 230 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: of not lledge. It's too esoteric, right, It's incredibly And 231 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: also the people that are into comic books are so 232 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: like I'm into comic books, and like it's kind of 233 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: like when someone's like into jazz music, it's like you 234 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: can't be half into it. And I expect to talk 235 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: to people that are like in comics. They're like they 236 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: know everything, and it's it's like an intimidating world for me. 237 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: Almost did you know that was a very serious jazz 238 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: guitar player in my past? Okay, as he's unbuttoning his 239 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: shirt a little sexy boy, I just felt by um. 240 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: So when I was when I was in like middle school, 241 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: I started playing guitar and like the jazz band was 242 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: like the cool for me. It was the coolest thing 243 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: in our school. It's like high schoolers the jazz band, 244 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: they were so cool um uh, and I'm sure they were, 245 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: and yeah, I believe you. Well, actually, did you ever 246 00:12:54,920 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: see uh dear Van Hanson, there's a this isn't a 247 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: spoiler seen it. I have seen. So the writer was 248 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: the older brother of one of my best friends in 249 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: high school. Oh so a lot of this stuff in 250 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: that show like very I felt very much like, oh 251 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: I there's like reference points I see here, and there's 252 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: a moment where he's like, oh, like, hey, like I like, 253 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: I like you a jazz band, I don't like, I 254 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: like I love jazz, well not not jazz, but like 255 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: jazz band jazz or just like I know what you're talking. 256 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: I saw a clip of this yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 257 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: It's in the Waiting through the Window, Yes conversation. And 258 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: I've been listening to that NonStop. It was that good. 259 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: Huh Um. I really liked it. I really liked it. 260 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: And generally if I get hooks me, I'll like listen 261 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: to it a lot. And the music is really sticky, 262 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: I can really sticky. But but but I bring that 263 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: up to say that, like that was like the I 264 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: like jazz but jazz band jazz were just saying like 265 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: you like sort of like pseudo jam band stuff. As 266 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: a jazz anyways, I was really obsessed with that UM 267 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: and like I became a very into jazz person. But 268 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: and then when they played a lot and practiced all 269 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: the time, and then they went to college where there 270 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: was a music conservatory that I did not wasn't a 271 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: part of it. But I was like, Oh, here's what 272 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna like go to college and 273 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: then to practice a lot and be in the conservatory too. 274 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: I don't be like a Jaska, but yeah, that's what 275 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: we do. UM. But then I got really intimided because 276 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: of all these people. I was like, oh, you are 277 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: all true serious musicians and I am not. And then 278 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: I broke my fingers so I could't practice it for 279 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: like a year, and then I was like, well, I'm 280 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: really out. That's really interesting because I feel it's very 281 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: similar to the comic book thing, and I think but 282 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: I think so too any obsessive culture. It's if you 283 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: can name one thing and then someone's like, oh, if 284 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: you like that, and how about that? And if you 285 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: know that, then you're like in and if you know that, 286 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: they're like all right. It's like the way people feel 287 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: about improv. That's the way people feel about anything people 288 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: know about sports, or like like guys asking girls like, oh, 289 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: if you really love football the name like the team, 290 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: and then this year it's like not right, Yeah, just 291 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: did the love voice thing. By the way, Wait that 292 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: was my paltry attempt at it. But what's uptown? I 293 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: just do think it's funny that so you really like football? 294 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: Guys really do ask that, like like just like try 295 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: to like test you on that stuff to women specifically, 296 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: you say I like football, Like I feel like that's 297 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: that's true. Um no, this is but Tim's like intimidation 298 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: of this like more what he thought was more legitimate. Uh. 299 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: It's sort of like maybe, Matt, do you feel this 300 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: way about like how you ended up sort of going 301 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: into and this Sorry this is getting very inside baseball 302 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: with our pasts, but like did you feel that way 303 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: going into like things like reality show where it was 304 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: like so, yeah, so I went to school and wasn't 305 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: studying acting or writing at all. I wanted to be 306 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: a journalism I was. I was like basically I was 307 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: accepted into the school, um, and I was going to 308 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: be a journalism major. And then yeah, just honestly being 309 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: around people that were passionate about something made me realize, 310 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, wait, I've been passionate about this all along, 311 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: and that's what I wanted to do all along. And 312 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: then it is really hard to get over that thing 313 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: of like, but I but I'm not as good as them, 314 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: or I feel like just because I like something doesn't 315 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: mean I should do it. And also even if I 316 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: am good enough, how would you go about getting into 317 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: that position? And it it's really hard to ingretiate yourself 318 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: and something that you love and might have a passion for, 319 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: but just other people are I've already you feel like 320 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: they have a head start on you, which is I 321 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: think a lot of college kids out there that not 322 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: to college is forced to find what you want to 323 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: do and like really get into it. But a lot 324 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: of people think, well that's not my major, I can't 325 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: do that, or they think it's my second year a 326 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: third year of fourth year of college and I haven't 327 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: done that, that means it's over for me, or even 328 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: the idea that like you have to to enjoy something, 329 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: you have to be a master at it, something you 330 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: have to like you have to judge your connection with it, 331 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: competency competency in it with other people's view of It's like, 332 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. There's like so few things I feel 333 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: like I like just because I like to do him 334 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: that are like devoid of value, judgment and comparison. It's 335 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: all about faking your way into everything anyway, because because 336 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: you have to realize, like those people that you're thinking 337 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: about and talking about, like most of them just faked 338 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: their way in and just believed and believed and believed 339 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: hard enough. I mean, the way I got into shows 340 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: at n y U because I want to really wanted 341 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: to perform, was just convincing myself that I could do it, 342 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 1: like and maybe maybe that's not for everybody, but I 343 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: think so much of it. You can achieve so much 344 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: by like just visualizing, I think. But then there's that 345 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: lingering thing of once you've like overcome that like first 346 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: little mental barrier ventry to say, like I can do this, 347 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, Like I felt like that as 348 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: like a chemistry major doing being in the improv group 349 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: and saying while everyone else is in film or in 350 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: drama and I don't know and therefore there's a ceiling 351 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: for me. But you know what, so I was a 352 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: Latin major in the impact. Yeah, I remember being like, oh, 353 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: like maybe I want to do you know, like Tim, 354 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: like you've always wanted to act, Like you know that 355 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: you said that you just didn't do it in high 356 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: school like you've always wanted to. Now like these people 357 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: kind of are and like you're liking this, so like 358 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: why don't you try? Why you go for it? I 359 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: go for it? And then like I met people who 360 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: are actors like at my school, like in the acting program, 361 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: and I was like I just hate that. Yeah, I 362 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: didn't want I was like I don't. I kind of 363 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: regret that because I was being judgmental um and I 364 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: could have done plays that would have been fun, but 365 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: I was straight up like I had the imposter syndrome. 366 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: Then I saw like performance and I was like, I 367 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: don't like this feeling. The thing is it's like yeah, 368 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's another thing. It's like you're not 369 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: really in the in the community you want to be in, 370 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: or like you don't really do it yet, and so 371 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: you dip your toe in it and the very first 372 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 1: person you meet or the very first experience you have 373 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: can be like a defining experience, like and that's with everything. 374 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I think when people some people 375 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: in anyway, when they attempt to do something and they 376 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: failed the first time, it's like, well, I'm bad at well, 377 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: I can't do that, and I feel like that's like 378 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: it's insane to believe that you could just succeed in 379 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: your first time doing anything. Anyway. It's how I feel 380 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: about push up because I used to be so bad 381 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: and then I just started being like Tim, like you 382 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: can do push ups, and now I do, Like, now 383 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: you push ups every single morning, and no, and then 384 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: you really do get better at that. Yeah, you do 385 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: get better. And I know, I know you're I know 386 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: you were saying that as a bit, but like it's true. Everyone. 387 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: I appreciate how that that you I appreciate. And also 388 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: I think that brings health and fitness into less culture stuff. 389 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: And I really hope that everyone listening right now just 390 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: gets down, right now, while you're listening, even while I'm 391 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: saying this, right now, just get down and do ten. 392 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: Do a hundred pushes, put them up into fifth. You 393 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: know what. Throughout the rest of the podcast, I'll remind 394 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: you that it's time to do another ten, and by 395 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: the end of the podcast, you'll have done a hundred guys, 396 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: and then you can say you did a hundred push 397 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: ups today. No one ever said you have to do 398 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: them all at once, to common misconception, I'm a fitness guru. 399 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 1: Now alright, wow, this is a bold new direction. Hey, um, 400 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: get down and do ten guys. This is one. Okay, 401 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: so but you're pulsing this out. You're doing ten, so 402 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do this not I would say, 403 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: don't worry about me, bowen. I would say, don't worry 404 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: about me at all. Wow, um wow, Okay. There's lots 405 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: of uh culture okay, so um comic books and then 406 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: would you say that that's like maybe it's hard to 407 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: pin down one thing. There were a few things. I mean, 408 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: I feel like comic books and comic strips. I feel like, um, 409 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: my parents would play musicals in like the car rides, um, 410 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: and that was a big thing, like singing along to 411 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: musicals and car rides. Uh. So I like musicals. I'm 412 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: not like obsessed, but like the older I get them more. 413 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I really like this. Um. I also 414 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: like loved like comedy albums. I go to sleep listening 415 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: to like U the albums are listening to Going to 416 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: Sleep where a lot of Bill Cosby albums, a lot 417 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: of uh the twenties. I was a year old man 418 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: the mel Brooks and carrying Oh my god. I used 419 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: to love Margaret Trow in high school. I loved her. 420 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: I love listen to Dave Barry Tass. Do you da? 421 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: He was like a dad who wrote a comedy column 422 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: for like Washington Post magazine or something. I probably read 423 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: an interview of his or something it was. But so 424 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like listening to stuff was 425 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: I definitely Margaret Show was a big one for me. 426 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: And also I listened to I'm Still Here damn It 427 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: by Sandra Bernhard. You ever listen to that album? And 428 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: you ever you ever listen to any Sandra Bernhard? No, 429 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm not. She was him. I think you would really 430 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: like her. She was like real performance art, like she 431 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: was like it wasn't stand up, it was like sometimes 432 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: it was s would just break out into a song. 433 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: I love that you would. You should listen to that. 434 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: And also everyone at home like, that's a fun liddle 435 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: throwback comed performance album that you should check out. As 436 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: Sandra Bernhard I'm Still Here damn it. She on the 437 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: Larry Sanders Show a lot. Yeah, Okay, then I thinking 438 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: thinking of the right. No, she was big. She was 439 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: big time, like a long time ago. I think she 440 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: did a couple of score Casey movies. Um, and she 441 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: had like a she played herself on Will and Grace. 442 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: They were like because Will and Grace were like looking 443 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: at Sandra Bernhard's apartment and they're like, we can't believe 444 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: that's Sandra Bernhard's department, and then hilarity ensued. Um, I 445 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: feel like you can believe it. Honestly that I feel 446 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: like comedy albums were like a big blind spot from me. 447 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: It was just I yeah, like I'm ashamed to say 448 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: the first like full length album I listened to is 449 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: can you Got that Thing? Cook? Yeah? You know what, 450 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: you know what? I I liked him. I mean I 451 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 1: was like that snake bit. He has a snake bit 452 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: that really connected me, where he like pretends to be 453 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: a snake and then it skills like oh, yeah, you 454 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: know that's my think, yeah you know, and then his 455 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: teeth around the I want that and him saying I 456 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: want what a snake has. Remember that being a big 457 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: moment for me. I was like, oh fuck, he just 458 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: Dan Cook never had jokes. He just had like little 459 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: snippets of like phrases that somehow he would deliver in 460 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: land and it would be successful. And he was actually 461 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: very skilled in that regard, like somebody should in the 462 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: coats is still hilarious to me. He also was an 463 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: amazing performer. Yeah, he was a great live performer. Like 464 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: he was. You can hear in his voice when you're 465 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: listening to him on an album that he's just killing 466 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: the audience. I remember that was like all we listened 467 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: to in high school. And then um, when he started 468 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: to do his more, like he had like a couple 469 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: of movies employ them on Oh God, Luck Chuck, good 470 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: Luck Chuck. Um. But also the last I heard from 471 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: Dane Cook, he was talking about like how he was 472 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: absolutely killing the game in terms of like he fucked 473 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: a lot of groupies on like he he was like 474 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: he was talking about how like that's how the reason 475 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: good Luck Chuck was a thing because he was just 476 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: getting so much ass, like he like he just like 477 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: talked about and I was fascinating to me. I'm like, 478 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: apparently just like every single New city just fucking fucking 479 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: fu and then I'm thinking, is that how it is 480 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: like for these people that are on the road, Like, 481 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, he had stadiums like he 482 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: was like doing, wasn't he right? He had stadiums for sure? 483 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: Like he was kind of like a little rock star there. 484 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: Well it's like early days. I just like, you know, 485 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: like I like that snake bit and like I I'll 486 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: give it to him that he's like a talented performer, 487 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: but like like I don't like his legacy is his 488 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: legacy is a is a I guess a shameful one 489 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: would be not fair, right, That wouldn't be fair. It's 490 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: not Yeah, one most shameful wouldn't wouldn't be unfair to me, 491 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: But it's also probably like not the right. It's like 492 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: shameful is also being too generous with It's like it's 493 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: just like looking back and remembering that Ashley Simpson was 494 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: a huge pop star. It's like, oh, that's that's where 495 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: we were in terms of like mass appeal, bad taste 496 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: at that point. It was just like we all accepted 497 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: something at that time, we all left to something at 498 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: that time, which now we're looking back and we're like, huh, 499 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: that makes me think of did you have you seen 500 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: the Backstreet Boys documentary? I just talked about this the 501 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: other day off the air with Chrissie. You have you 502 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: seen it? Um? I have seen bits and pieces of it, 503 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: but the best in pieces I've seen were like not 504 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: fun to watch. They were sad. And you have not 505 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: seen it. I have not, but I've heard it's really cool. 506 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: It's really cool, and like into what we're talking about 507 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: is they're pretty open about there, like we were the 508 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: biggest band in the world, um, and then we weren't, 509 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: you know, and now we're adults. I mean they were 510 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: adults then some of them more. But on the morning, 511 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's like them reckoning with that idea that 512 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about it, like they could have been this 513 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: monumental thing in culture and then they are just not. 514 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: And I think it really I think they come off 515 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: looking very good in that. I think so. I think 516 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: that they clearly have like issues, they clearly have. You 517 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: can't be not emotionally go through the emotional ringer doing 518 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: that kind of experience, especially at the age Howie d 519 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: I think it's a psychopath But like, oh god, Backstreet Boys, 520 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean I think was like a sex addict and 521 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: also an alcoholic. And I think Nick Carter was molested 522 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: by their manager. Yeah, I mean that don't they cover that, 523 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: and that they delude to it. They allude, they make 524 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: I think they were not allowed to talk about stuff. 525 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: I think they are contraction allowed to talk about that 526 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: because they will say some very like political things where 527 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: they go, yeah, and you do some things that may's 528 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: very uncomfortable. And there's one moment where Kevin just like 529 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: he allowed me to quit my three jobs and follow 530 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: my dreams and that will always be grateful, like a 531 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: very sort of like they have to walk it back, see, 532 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: oh we gotta. I just I don't think they walked 533 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: it back, but they just said they were they were. 534 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: It was clear the Victor ship went down, just like 535 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: we were not going to talk about it because he 536 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: was also he was also the manager of I Think 537 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: in Sync, and I think he discovered Britney Spirit. Yeah 538 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: what what was his name? Just and he passed away 539 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Yeah he's I think he's 540 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: not around anymore. But he was also in prison for 541 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: a long time embezzelment. So this was like not a 542 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: good guy. Um and the story goes that he molested 543 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: the Carter kids and that the mother found out about it, 544 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: and then it was like it was a whole I 545 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: remember these headlines. Um, he was like a sick. Oh 546 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: that's really unfortunate. Um. But speaking of it's so funny. 547 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: Backstreet Boys are just sort of like creeping back into 548 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: the consciousness today. I just saw a headline I was 549 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: talking about how Brian wanted to wanted to perform at 550 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: the inauguration. Um. And then and then oh my god. 551 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: And then Matt and I were in Philly this a 552 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: weekend ago, and then there was this club where there 553 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: was this giant screen and they played backstreets back for 554 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: the video, and and then I was drunk, So I 555 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: might have just like in a sexually remember that line. Yeah, 556 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: but I was just so receptive to this video again, 557 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what this is Like, 558 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: I was like, this is one of those first music 559 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: like one of those first modern pop videos post nineties 560 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: that was just like very stylized yea video. It was stupid. 561 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: It was stupid now, but like one of them. It 562 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, he's a wolf, why he's That's why 563 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: it's fun? Things like I don't get that none of 564 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: them were like sexy fucking like sexy monsters, like he 565 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: was a mummy, Like he looked like a mummy. Total 566 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: I don't get, but but I don't wait. Tim just 567 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: blasted through this ceiling. I was gonna say, no, this 568 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: is Backstreet Boys have this very special personal meaning to me. 569 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: And this is why I sent my very first email 570 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: to the Backstreet Boys fan like fan page. You had 571 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: never sent an email before. I never sent an email before. 572 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 1: I technically was not through those of you at home. 573 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: Bowen does send a lot of emails now, so this 574 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: is like the beginning of something and I've I've been 575 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: told I'm very good at sending them um anyway, but 576 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: it was just like my first email, just typing this 577 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: out and being like, wait, this this goes to them, 578 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: like through through this thing called the internet, and they response. 579 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: It was an automated response, but I, as a kid, 580 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: thought it was like them actually reading my thing and 581 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: being like, hey, thanks so much for reaching out to us. 582 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: And I was like wow, like Nick Carter saw my message, 583 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: which is so funny and insane, and why did no 584 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: one clock that then? And there to be like that kid, 585 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: that six year old is gay um or you know, 586 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: eight year old would be clocking there. Well, I don't 587 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: know if things happen when you're young and then you 588 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: look back and you're like, holy sh it. When I 589 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: was tent from my tenth birthday, my parents gave me 590 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: tickets to the first concert I was ever going to 591 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: go to when it was Mariah Carey, and I screamed, 592 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: I think for like minutes and was like jumping for 593 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: joy because I was going to see Mariah carry in 594 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden. I you guys have talked about I 595 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: don't know, I actually know what. I don't want to 596 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: enter the Mariah they carry conversation. No, no, I want 597 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: to hear this what is it? Tim? Because I know 598 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: you all like, uh, you have all come out to 599 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: say that you are Mariah apologize your apologist for that moment, 600 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: for that moment, and I'm just I will say I'm 601 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: a neutral. I'm basically like I got angry about who 602 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: got a couple of listeners saying no, Mariah was wrong? 603 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: Oh no, I I just well, I'll say it's not 604 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: the fire. You know what, if you don't go to 605 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: sound check then like no, then if you don't go 606 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: to sound check. She did, and she went to No, 607 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: here's what happened. She went to sound check. The producers 608 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: kept pushing back the sound check and she had to 609 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: be she had to be somewhere. No, her sound check 610 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: was for three thirty. The producers kept her in a 611 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: waiting area and she didn't go on until five o'clock 612 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: and she only had fifteen minutes to do strap and 613 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: then they were like, okay, we gotta we gotta move 614 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: on at six o'clock. See I heard she didn't even 615 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: go to this sound check. That's what I I think that. 616 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: I think two things. One there's a lot of explanations 617 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,239 Speaker 1: from a lot of different sources. And the second thing 618 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: I think is I don't care because it was funny. Okay, I'll, 619 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: i'll it was fun I tell you that. My one 620 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: of my favorite like line like like like argument lines 621 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: is I don't care. I like it because I feel 622 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: like there's such, uh, there's such an impulse to justice, 623 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: Like okay, it usually comes down to this, were like 624 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: so like I don't eat meat right now, I don't 625 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: call myself vegetarian because like if it's free, I'll eat it, 626 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, if someone's giving me leftovers. I'll eat it 627 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: like cool, I like it. Um, why why people why 628 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: people normally don't eat meat? You know whatever? And in 629 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: my mind, like you, it's hard to argue against the 630 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: idea that, like the culture of meat is bad for 631 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: the world, you know, and like bad for your body. 632 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: But that's a different argument. But the idea that like, 633 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's bad, you know, it's bad environmentally, it's bad. 634 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: I think it's hard to argue against that. And I've 635 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: always think it's interested in where people are like, well, 636 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm not going argue against it, but I'm gonna say 637 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: fuck you rather than you're right. But I don't care. 638 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: I eat me because I like it. Like I think 639 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: that is like a fine. I think it's a fine 640 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: fine being wrong. And also like I don't care, I'm 641 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: gonna do this not this argument is a kid no no, no, no, 642 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: by agree with you. It's like you know what it is. 643 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: It's like Facebook culture and common culture. It's like, oh, 644 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: like we're all lawyers on the It's interesting now, it's 645 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: like where do you lawyers? It's like I feel like 646 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: that that is a great argument and a great sort 647 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: of um sort of relinquishment of of argument, I guess, 648 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: but then like I feel like that has to match 649 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: in severity. It's like, okay, well if I don't if 650 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: I still eat meat despite all these horrible things like 651 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: surrounding food culture, then and I don't care them, that's fine. 652 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: But also then it's like, well, what if you like 653 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: want to, like, what if you want to fucking like 654 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: choke a dog in the street. I think that that's 655 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: just like decorum and knowing that that's not that's different, 656 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, I also think I'm 657 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: really intrigued by this now because it's a really fun 658 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: way to get back at the person who's yelling at 659 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: you for eating meat. Yeah, it's like, well, well, just 660 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: so you know, I don't do this because of the 661 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, environmental things blah blah blah blah um and 662 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: you just saying like, Okay, yes, I totally understand. I 663 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: still definitely am gonna do it because I like cheeseburgers 664 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: and that's something I was raised with it. I'm not 665 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: going to change my diet. But thank you for what 666 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: you've said to just be like, but you know, in things, 667 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate that more than the ads who have been like, well, 668 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat two for you, then spiteful comeback of like, 669 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: well you don't, well, I'm gonna eat so much now 670 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know. It does remind me of 671 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: a great Margat show though, from one of her albums, 672 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: which is um, vegetarians are so mean because they're hungry. 673 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: I love it. She again another stand up who was 674 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: just an incredible performer, and you could tell because there 675 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: would just be these long silences and the audience is 676 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: dying and me at home listening off my like, I 677 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 1: don't know what was that at the time, like Kaza, 678 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: like I would just die as well, laughing imagining whatever 679 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: she was doing. I feel like my parents took me 680 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: to see her at some point, you know, I don't remember. 681 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't. I feel like I have a glimpse of 682 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: a member because I was like, I was very young 683 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: when I listen to these comedy albums, so they knew 684 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: I liked them. Maybe I don't know, I have a glimpse. 685 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: Maybe it took me to a different, different show. But 686 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I saw you, felt you felt so 687 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: connected to the material that you felt like you were 688 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: in the room. Maybe maybe I mean there is her 689 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: Carnegie Hall album is truly just one of the best. 690 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: I think my favorite one is I'm the One that 691 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: I Want. And then there's also Notorious h which Carnegie 692 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: Hall really Oh, that's one. It's really good. It's just 693 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: all of Carnegie Hall silent listening to this one Asian 694 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: queer woman on stage. That's crazy. Um and just the whole, 695 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: the whole, the whole visual of stand up is in 696 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: like in like those giants years is sort of is 697 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 1: still still amazed as me. It's like everyone's just listening 698 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: to one person talk, which is it's pretty cool. It's unnatural. Yeah, yeah, 699 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: I think it's unnatural. It's It's something I think about 700 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: when doing Stamp where I'm like, uh, like why do 701 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: you Why is it like equated to like go into 702 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: the gym and people talk about you going Mike's gotta 703 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: get up there? Like why is there that sort of 704 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: like repy I get your reps in? And I think 705 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: it's because like it is an unnatural state, like you 706 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: having all the attention of people around you, unless like 707 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: you have great like like historically Actually, I'm not gonna 708 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: go sta because it's like that's me wax in poetic. 709 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: But I think it's unnatural. It's like you have to 710 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: build up a tolerance to that form of attention I 711 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: think to have. I mean, same thing is acting, I suppose, 712 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: but it's a but it's something we've found out. You know, 713 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: putting someone in front of everyone else is something we've 714 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: found out. It's not something we naturally Yeah yeah, something 715 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 1: or something we found or is it because we found 716 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: it out? You know what I mean? You have to 717 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: wonder is it part of human nature to entertain each other? Um, 718 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: to tell stories because we because we've been doing it 719 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: for hundreds and thousands of years. A real Neil gaming 720 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: right now? Come on, baby on my tiny heart. Okay, 721 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: I don't know where that came from. Um, I should 722 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: learn listeners. Be doing push ups right now? Oh yeah, 723 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: you should probably drop down for another ten guys. Um yeah, 724 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: oh this actually made me think. You know what's even 725 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: more fucking unnatural, which every time I do it, I 726 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: come out of the room and I'm like, that was garbage, 727 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: And everyone knows this garbage is auditioning. Auditioning is the 728 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: most unnatural thing, the stupidest social transaction. It's so insane 729 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: and just also like just as a human thing, and 730 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: I think about this more than anything else. I never 731 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: think about performing as like an unnatural human thing, but 732 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: whenever I audition, I'm always like, we shouldn't do that 733 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: because we aren't supposed to do that as humans. Like, 734 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: it's so bizarre to me. I think that about I 735 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: think that about flying on a plane. Yeah, well, we're 736 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: not supposed to be up there. We're not You're not 737 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: supposed to be up there. I guess there. I guess 738 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: that's why all those bits became a hack, because it 739 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: was a thing. I was like, Oh, we had to 740 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: explore this thing we shouldn't be you know. It was 741 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: like a common see me on the core of the earth. 742 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: You don't see me pitching a ten the corn the earth. Okay, 743 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: what do you think you, Matt? What bits? Are you 744 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: talking like airplane bits? That's exactly why. Yeah, that's why 745 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: you saw a real, real dip and airplane bits in 746 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: the past ten years. This reminds me because last time 747 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: I was on an airplane. Uh. Loving Friendship was one 748 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: of the movies that we could that we had the 749 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 1: option of watching. It reminds me of my first last 750 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: cultural stysm beef bringing the table right bring it forth, 751 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 1: Come forth for Matt. You do not like Colin Firth. 752 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: I never understood this. I think he's a fucking he's 753 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: a poster board. What sorry about sorry about it? He is? 754 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: Mr Darcy. Give me Colin Farrell every time. Give me 755 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: Hugh Grant shivering and shaking. Give me Hugh Grant drenched, 756 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: wet and cold, doing anything over a Colin Firth fully 757 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: dry in front of a camera. Kay, So let me 758 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: first make this personal for a second. All right, i'mnna 759 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: make this emotional and personal. So, uh my mom would 760 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: make me and my brothers watch these pride and Prejudice movies. Uh, 761 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: I hear he's the defenditive, Mrs Darcy, he's a defendive. 762 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: Mr Jarsey, Yes, he's the definitive. William Yes. Uh and 763 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: uh we like watched them all because our mom like 764 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: made us and then we grew to like become obsessed 765 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: with these like Crian prejudice movies. And Colin Firth is 766 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: just like he's electric in that he's so good. He's 767 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: like when he comes out of the pool and he's 768 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: like his shirts off and he's all like he's nervous. 769 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 1: I believe it. Maybe it is the fact that I 770 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: haven't seen those movies you got. They're so good. I 771 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: haven't seen the Prime and Prejudice movies. And apparently that's 772 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: like Colin Firth, like Hallmark and like his legacy project 773 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: as those Pride and Prejudice movies. I haven't seen them. 774 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: He's just very just classically British. Yeah, I guess, can 775 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: I tell you something. I don't really respond to the 776 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: British sensibility, sensibility in that regard the period British thing. 777 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm never going to go out of my way. Oh 778 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: I see, I love that, like like the Crown. I 779 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: couldn't give a fuck that like Jane Austin style, like proper, 780 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: like if I breathe too hot? Thanks, just sort of 781 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 1: like well the Master, did uh speak tenderly upon brows? Yeah? Absolutely, 782 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: There's just one line from the from the Prime Prejudice 783 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: of series, like I get like Mr daw No, no, no, no, 784 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: it's a It's okay. So Elizabeth is with with the Bingleys, 785 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: and Miss Bingley goes. Miss Elizabeth Bennett is a great 786 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: reader and she enjoys nothing else, and Elizabeth goes. I 787 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: deserve neither such praise nor such censure. I am no, 788 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: what's a great reader, and I enjoy anythings that's pretty 789 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: good exchange, I'll get like looped in my head. That 790 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 1: can can we say that? Elizabeth's response just word. I 791 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: just want to internalize this. I deserve neither such praise 792 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: nor such censure. I am not a great reader, and 793 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 1: I enjoy many things that's pretty good. Either such praise 794 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: nor such censure beautiful. I mean, come on, the language, Mama, Matt, 795 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: you need to appreciate language. You're a writer. I appreciate 796 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: Jane Austen. I think she's wonderful. I get the stories. 797 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: I understand. I just would never seek those things out, 798 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: like I really. I tried to watch The Crown and 799 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: because everyone's talking about it, and I was like, if 800 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: I have to watch another fucking movie watching an old 801 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: British man cough, I'm gonna fucking lose it. I get it. 802 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 1: Matter all sick. This is well, it's the same. They're 803 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: all sick. You need to get it. Wait, Matt, you 804 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 1: need to watch Fleabag. Have you seen fleabag? Is it's 805 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,399 Speaker 1: an Amazon It's on Amazon, and I've seen I haven't 806 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,959 Speaker 1: seen any Amazon thing. I don't have Amazon I haven't. 807 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 1: I don't have Amazon. I've never seen any Amazon thing 808 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: you can reference on Amazon thing. I haven't seen him, okay, 809 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: and I want seen. Okay, Hey everyone, it's time to 810 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 1: drop down and do another ten um pause, five, five, five. 811 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: I think you've I think you've earned five this time. 812 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: You've been doing such a good drap. So we just 813 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: let's just say five is the requirement. If you want 814 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: to do five more and put yourself that's fine, but 815 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: also listen to this throws off the count by a lot. 816 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm just saying we're either at five or we're at thirty. Well, 817 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: I think that we should do ten. I think five. Okay, 818 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: all right, well then dude, between five and ten bringing 819 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 1: up to or third whatever. If you're only got to 820 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: do five now, you gotta do fifteen later. So I 821 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: just I just want to say one thing, Matt. I 822 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: think it's patently unfair for you to sweep an entire 823 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: nation's culture. We're talking about culture. You're you're willing nations 824 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: culture under the bus because you don't like Colin Firth. 825 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: That is unfair. You need to give fleabag a chance. 826 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: Oh this is this. It's not that I don't like 827 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: British things in general. It's that the kind of period 828 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: British stuff I don't care for. Okay, I sat down 829 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,919 Speaker 1: to Nabby because it was so be in a modern way. 830 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: I gave up on that show. Loved it, I liked 831 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: I liked it know where. I gave up on that 832 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: show when everyone died uh year old were dropping like flies. 833 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: I gave up on the UH. The moment when what's 834 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: her name? Mary? When the rape moment, the rape moment 835 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 1: as well, because I I felt like I just felt 836 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,479 Speaker 1: like this is not this. It felt like this about 837 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: this recently. No, not if it was um, what's her name? 838 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: The blonde Anna Anna? Yea, Yeah, it felt like a 839 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: moment was like this doesn't feel like it was meant 840 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: for any reason then to like throw so it felt 841 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: cheap and it felt like bad and I don't want to, 842 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: you know. We talked to Beth and Sarah from Reductress 843 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: about this when they were on about West World, about 844 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: the UH, and I talked to a lot of people 845 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: that are like, you know, West World, I'm not gonna 846 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: watch it because it feels a little rapey to me. 847 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: And we talk to them about how you know that 848 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: kind of thinking it's like, well, then what are you 849 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 1: gonna do not tell stories about people that are raped, 850 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: and like the rape as a thing in the world, 851 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: because rape happens in the world. And I think, what 852 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: was kind of not nice or cool or interesting? I 853 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: guess yeah, what was interesting about the choice to have 854 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 1: a rape storyline on Downton Abbey is because you're in 855 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: that world and you don't think about rape as a 856 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: thing that happens in a place like Downton Abbey, you 857 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I think it shows would 858 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 1: and and this is kind of interesting to me. It 859 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 1: was like, you know, you would never would have thought 860 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: you'd get the storyline on the show. But rape is 861 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: a part of, you know, this kind of toxic masculine 862 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: culture that definitely exists on Downton Abbey. And therefore I 863 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 1: was like, you know, it's an interesting thing. And I 864 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 1: remember she won some awards for performing that storyline, and 865 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: she said in her speech, is like, it's really important 866 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: to me to tell the story because, um, this happens 867 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: to women. It has happened to women for many centuries. 868 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: So I think another thing is that I would have 869 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,399 Speaker 1: At that time, I was watching Sons of Anarchy, which 870 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: is the show I also gave up on because it 871 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: was silly. Um. But I just watched this season where 872 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: kay Segall's character there was a season long arc about 873 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: her like dealing with the rape, and it was like, really, 874 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: I thought they handled I thought she was incredible in 875 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: that in that show, and I thought that was very 876 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: like that. It was. It was shocking. It was like 877 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: I felt like it dealt with relations and ship as well, 878 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 1: and I really believe everything she was going through, which 879 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 1: is really scary. And then that I watched that to 880 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 1: Naby and it was happening, I was like, I can't 881 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: and you think it just wasn't well. I was like 882 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: I can't go and this is like I'm saying this 883 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: and I'm admitting this is like privileged and fucking ship. 884 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: I was like, I can't go through that as a 885 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: viewer again, which you know what, at the moment I 886 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: say that, I think I should get No, I'll take 887 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 1: criticism for that for that. Take no, no, I don't 888 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: think because it's if you didn't feel like it was 889 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: being dealt with sensitively and you and like I don't. Also, 890 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: you can choose what you watch also, like it does 891 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: not make you privileged to say I don't want as 892 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: a viewer to experience this sort of amplifying this thing 893 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: that I'm already sort of processing, because it does feel 894 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: like sometimes it's on every fucking show, And then you 895 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,399 Speaker 1: think to yourself, like, all right, you have to ask 896 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,320 Speaker 1: the question like are we doing this to inform and expose? 897 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: Are we doing this to fucking entertain people? And if 898 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm watching a rape storyline to be entertained, which and which? 899 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: A lot of times that is why you watch television shows, 900 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: just to be entertained. And if you're finding that that's 901 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,720 Speaker 1: part of your entertainment, there's nothing wrong with removing yourself 902 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: from that. Like, like, there was an art was it 903 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: Emily nuts Bomb that was talking about that. I feel 904 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: like I read some article about this recently about uh 905 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: oh gosh, I love nuts Bomb. I just want to say, 906 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: what was the article dealing with, you know? I think 907 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: it was actually I don't remember was. I feel like 908 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: it was interviewing some female show's saying like we get 909 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: so many um uh spec scripts that like from men 910 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 1: that are are there are rapes scripts? And then we 911 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,800 Speaker 1: get so many into like a rule of ours is 912 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: that we just and if that's any of them, we 913 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 1: just don't. We don't look at it anymore. It's like 914 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,479 Speaker 1: it's become a trend. It like screenwriters, it's the same 915 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: thing with like it's now and this is scary, Like 916 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: what like like soaps were doing in the two thousands 917 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: with cancer, where it just felt like a matter of 918 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: fucking time until they were going to be like a 919 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: cancer storyline and we were going to go through that 920 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: for eighteen episodes. It's like now it's moved on to 921 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,919 Speaker 1: the doing that was rape people. It's not the same 922 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: fucking thing. People even writing like casual jokes about this 923 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: meta story like in the ounce this in the ounce 924 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 1: the show um One, one character has this line that goes, um, 925 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,320 Speaker 1: so what did do last night? I was just watching 926 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: that show on HBO where they're terrible to women, Oh 927 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: A true Detective, No the Jinks, no Game of Thrones, 928 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 1: like just listing basically every HBO show and it applied 929 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 1: and it worked as a joke and it was just 930 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: awful and whatever. But it's it's it's it is like 931 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: it's everywhere and I don't and I don't blame him 932 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: for wanting to like disengage from Downton just because it 933 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 1: was like so much to process. Saying I don't blame 934 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: Tim is huge. Okay, I will say that. I think 935 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: I've told you this, but um, this was like fresh 936 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: after the election. I think this was the weekend of 937 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: I was doing this show over the eight Rest in Peace. 938 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 1: Meet You and I were doing the show there. Man, 939 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,879 Speaker 1: it was so sad. Um. A bunch of great people 940 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 1: were there, but we were just also sad and none 941 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: of us were funny. I was like Annifer Breaker was 942 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: there at least Moalysis there. Everyone was great, but like 943 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 1: we were just not delivering. So anyway, Meetro and I 944 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: are walking home and this was right after the whole 945 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: debate about the safety pins was happening, was like should 946 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 1: they should people be wearing them? Shouldn't they? And then 947 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: meet You and I were both like, it's such a stupid, bullshit, 948 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: nonsense discussion that's happening, blah blah blah blah blah, and 949 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: like eventually and like forgive me for for saying this, 950 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: but eventually like we were just like, you know what, 951 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: the only people who were having this argument who are 952 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: saying that you shouldn't wear safety pins are white people 953 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: and then we just like I had this whole runabout 954 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: white people are terrible, blah blah blah blah. And then 955 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: we ran into Tim and then we said, oh, Tim, 956 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: you're one of the good ones. And then we and 957 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 1: then we we spot off from him. We had this 958 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: beautiful conversation and then Meetro just go is I just 959 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: fucking love that we have that power to say who's 960 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: good and who's not. It was kind of a I mean, 961 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 1: it's it's a monstrous yet funny moment to me. I 962 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 1: don't know Tim, and Tim is one of the good ones. 963 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: I have to say, I can't accept. You cannot accept it, 964 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 1: cannot accept if you accept, if you accept, if you 965 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,959 Speaker 1: accept that you are, am I one of the good ones? Matt. 966 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 1: I think if we're going to bury the hatchet, then yes, 967 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: you are. I can't accept. That's right. You can can't 968 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 1: accept Tim, Mr right, It can't accept. Otherwise it is 969 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: part of the problem because I remember you guys said 970 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 1: that to me, and I was like, if this is 971 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 1: the test, if you said that to any moment, if 972 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,879 Speaker 1: you said to any person from my college, everyone, that's 973 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: like everyone's college is wet dreams. By the way, Oberlin baby, 974 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 1: which can I just say right now? First of all, 975 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 1: probably the fucking stud of Oberlin. Yeah, he told me. 976 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: He told me he almost hooked up with his r A. Oh, Tam, 977 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: come on, no, we don't have to do this. Don't 978 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,359 Speaker 1: make him do this. We might have to cut this out. 979 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say. Here's what I'll say. Uh, I 980 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 1: went to Oberlin. I enjoy Oberlin. Uh this is like 981 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: a school that does not deserve national attention. Here I 982 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,840 Speaker 1: don't think anything. And so here's the thing. There's a 983 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: lot I feel like it's become. Maybe it was before, 984 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 1: wasn't aware of it, but I feel like Oberlin has 985 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: become like a sort of a part of the culture 986 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: wars in a way, like a part of like an 987 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: example of college students gone awry or example of college 988 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 1: has gone a right. And there's many examples of that, 989 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: which I abe like, Yeah, that's I think that's ridiculous. 990 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think that stuff. But like it's a 991 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,399 Speaker 1: school of three thousand people like in Ohio, um, which 992 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 1: by the way, I like, I have very I have 993 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 1: a connection to. While I'm not saying OHI, but it's 994 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,879 Speaker 1: like a small school in isolation of like a lot 995 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: of a lot of things. It shouldn't be a national 996 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: story like things are going in Oberlin should not be 997 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 1: in the New York Times. And that's that's more than 998 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 1: any other school because like I sees the stuff that's 999 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 1: happening there is happening at like I don't know Bates 1000 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 1: or like read you know, like yeah, and so it 1001 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 1: does make me feel weird when that that school has 1002 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 1: become just like uh, maybe I'm maybe I'm just smar 1003 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 1: expensed to do it because I went there, But like 1004 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: you're always going to feel a connection to whatever anyone 1005 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 1: says about the school if you went to it is 1006 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: a little personal. Am I wrong to say that is 1007 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: not to become one of those like yeah, become one 1008 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 1: of those buzz not buzzwords, but like a late it's 1009 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 1: become a late shirts and in a post you know, 1010 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: Lena Dunham World, where did you go? Makes a lot 1011 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: of like Oberlin carries a lot of this weird stigma 1012 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: that's probably not deserved or or it's just yeah, it's 1013 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 1: just become this pincushion. Yeah, I mean Bowen and I 1014 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 1: went to n y U, and I think that's the 1015 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: school with a biggest target on its back and be 1016 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: it's on the biggest pedestal. It's it's like it's like both. 1017 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 1: And honestly, whenever anyone talks about n y U, I 1018 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 1: do I only am down to make cracks and jokes 1019 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,280 Speaker 1: about n y U. I'm I'm not interested in defending 1020 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: it anymore. I really don't feel connected to it. I 1021 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 1: felt like I defended it really never I did because 1022 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,360 Speaker 1: like but that I did, but without knowing what I 1023 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 1: was talking about, Like when people were coming for like 1024 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 1: John Sexton for um, you know, misusing money, and like 1025 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, no, he's actually a nice 1026 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,879 Speaker 1: guy because you had you worked with him. I worked 1027 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 1: with him, and he was a nice guy. He is 1028 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: a nice guy and he really he was very generous. 1029 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that what he was doing wasn't 1030 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,359 Speaker 1: fucked up. I mean I went to one of those 1031 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 1: houses that allegedly was like they used school money for 1032 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: like it was in looking back on what that was crazy, 1033 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 1: it's insane. And then he he resigned and he should have, 1034 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, so whenever anyone talks 1035 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 1: about n y U, I'm just like, yeah, I mean, 1036 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna feel bad about going there because like 1037 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to go there, and like I what we 1038 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,320 Speaker 1: got out of it, I think was great, which was 1039 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,120 Speaker 1: the connections and like being in the city and it 1040 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: was great. Butt you met is a connection. I mean, 1041 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I'll say that when I moved here, 1042 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 1: I was like I had a chip on my shoulder 1043 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 1: people I met through. Yeah, I know, do you guys? Yeah, 1044 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 1: I talked about it. Yeah, I talked about it. I 1045 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: don't have a problem talking about here from me. You bit, 1046 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 1: I'll come for you. You guys all knew each other. 1047 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: You knew what the institutions where you know, what was 1048 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 1: happening you. You were able to see younger comedians and 1049 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 1: older comedians figuring themselves out before anyone else didn't. And 1050 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: then then and then I got here, what's going on 1051 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 1: and all these people, like I knew what was going on? 1052 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,879 Speaker 1: I was like I had friends. It was definitely cool 1053 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 1: to be close to. Like, yeah, I will say this, 1054 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,440 Speaker 1: I still felt like this does not absolve me of anything, 1055 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 1: but I still felt like I was in my m 1056 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 1: U bubble right right after. Like I didn't take my 1057 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 1: first youth for at least two and a half years. Yeah, 1058 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: I didn't stay in didn't take my first ECB class 1059 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 1: until the summer after college, and I was like, Oh, 1060 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: finally I'll break out of the Washington Square Park area, 1061 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 1: you know. And also sometimes I wonder, like what it 1062 00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: would have been like to actually go to a school 1063 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 1: that was to New York and then have moved to 1064 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 1: New York, because that's like going to college again, you 1065 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 1: know what I mean, but this time you don't have 1066 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 1: the built in community. You do have to figure it out, 1067 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 1: you like, how did you meet people when you moved here? 1068 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 1: Story Parts Ye, Story Parts that was huge even for us, 1069 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 1: I will say, is the most positive comedy community in 1070 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, definitely. And I feel like I've like 1071 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: I've like diptoes in many different comedy communities. Story Pirates 1072 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: is the most positive. If you don't know what story 1073 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,799 Speaker 1: Parts is, you should log onto story parts dot org 1074 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,800 Speaker 1: or look up the story Parts on YouTube and just 1075 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: watch some of the videos. It's like an art education 1076 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,840 Speaker 1: collective and it's based in New York and Los Angeles, 1077 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,240 Speaker 1: and basically we take stories that are written by children, 1078 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,800 Speaker 1: elementary school aged kids and make them into um sketch 1079 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 1: shows and musical numbers and stuff. And perform them for 1080 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: the kids and it's really motivating and it's great. And 1081 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 1: I met Tim and fell in love with him instantly 1082 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 1: when I met him because he because he did object 1083 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 1: work digging, and I was like, that's him Tim. When 1084 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,800 Speaker 1: I first met Tim was he was the penguin that 1085 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 1: had to go acrost across the ocean. I first met 1086 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 1: Tim to story Parrots too, and just seeing him as 1087 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 1: one of he was a year older than my class, 1088 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 1: but he was at that at that point that I 1089 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: was already in the cast. He was so sharp and 1090 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 1: good and just yeah, you're good story pirate. And I 1091 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 1: was like, really talking funny and I wasn't and I've 1092 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 1: said this to him before, was very intimidated by him. Yes, same, 1093 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 1: that's so funny to me because you guys were so good, 1094 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: because I like, I know, I feel like it's a 1095 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,399 Speaker 1: very specific performance style because you have to perform for kids, 1096 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: so it's very like you're like a flat character, you know, 1097 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: you have a living cartoon. Yes, And I feel like 1098 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 1: both of you were like so uh, instantly perfect at it. 1099 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 1: It's because we are living cartoons. Yeah, Well, you know, 1100 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 1: if you want to talk about what if you want 1101 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 1: about culture. I like to talk about culture inspired it. 1102 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,360 Speaker 1: What about cartoons? Back to I'm gonna go all the 1103 00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:02,400 Speaker 1: way back to the Mask the Mad. That movie changed 1104 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 1: my life to carry his Beast and I saw it 1105 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 1: and I was like, Oh, I want to be an 1106 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,640 Speaker 1: actor because I saw that movie. And I was like, Oh, 1107 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: a human can be a cartoon. Oh what's he doing? 1108 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 1: Oh he's acting. Okay, Like that's what that's People don't 1109 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 1: count that as acting. That's exactly right. Because Tim and 1110 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 1: I have had lengthy conversations about Jim Carrey specifically and 1111 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 1: about just as a kid. You watch him in Aspenter 1112 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 1: and I was as a kid, was like, he's the 1113 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 1: funniest person. Absolutely, absolutely him and as Pentura him and 1114 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,360 Speaker 1: I mean, my favorite one. And this is like grounded 1115 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,760 Speaker 1: for him. But was Liar Liar? To me? Liar Liar 1116 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,359 Speaker 1: is one of the best performances ever. And I think 1117 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 1: it's the first hint you get that he's actually a 1118 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 1: great dramatic actor. The pen scene. The pen scene is unbelievable. 1119 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,879 Speaker 1: Just what happens the entire movie, and then the moment 1120 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: when he's like, I'm not a good father and he 1121 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,320 Speaker 1: realizes that he said it like that to me was 1122 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: like the first hint that what actually is there under 1123 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 1: Jim Carrey is like actually like an iconic talent, you 1124 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: know what. My parents knew I loved Jim Carrey, and 1125 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 1: so they took me to see Man on the Moon 1126 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 1: in theaters, which was like, I don't know who. Andy 1127 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 1: Kaufman was like I love Jim Carrey and like uh, 1128 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 1: and that movie also changed my life. I would have 1129 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 1: introduced by this dude who was now one of my 1130 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, inspirations. And do you ever sw that movie? 1131 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: I've ever seen that the Room. So the opening of 1132 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 1: it is him as Andy doing the credits, and he 1133 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 1: goes like, I'm not I can't do his voice. But 1134 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 1: he goes like, oh, usually see credits in the beginning 1135 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 1: of the end of the movie, but they're always boring, 1136 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 1: So now we're gonna do it at the beginning, and 1137 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 1: then he puts on the record and the credits go 1138 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 1: in the beginning, And from then I was like, WHOA, 1139 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 1: like you can like with the form, which as a 1140 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 1: kid is really important to see exemplified. That is huge. 1141 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm so happy that that we haven't talked about Jim 1142 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 1: Carrey on the podcast Jim Carrey is truly one of 1143 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 1: the first inspiration. Yeah, he's I mean just watching him 1144 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 1: in interviews where he would just like make these fucking 1145 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 1: crazy faces and I would be like, and do you 1146 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: see like old videos of him when he's just an 1147 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 1: impression But before he was even a stand up, it's 1148 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 1: just an impressionist. Before he would do an impression, he 1149 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 1: would like wrinkle his face. Do you know what I'm 1150 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 1: talking about? He was like wrinkles face, so of just 1151 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 1: like to get into it. And it's sort of like 1152 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 1: him like flexing little because it him just like showing 1153 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 1: how much control he had. Yeah. I think I read 1154 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: some article where he like when I was a kid, 1155 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 1: maybe like Disney Adventure magazine, where he was like, oh yeah, 1156 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 1: I'd make I'd make faces in the mirror as a kid. 1157 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, then I'm gonna do that too. 1158 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 1: He to me is the epitome of commitment and energy, 1159 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's unrivaled in those two areas. 1160 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: Like even when you see him come on like a 1161 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 1: like an a word show now and he has to 1162 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 1: do a bit he killed, he kills and no one 1163 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 1: is like that. I think he will be very, very 1164 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 1: he will, his legacy will be a very good one. 1165 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 1: I mean even now, it's like you look back at 1166 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: his career, I mean like Truman, Yeah, Truman Show, and 1167 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 1: like Eternal Sunshine came out. I was just like, this 1168 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 1: guy is just like amazing performances, Truman Show, Man in 1169 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 1: the Moon. I assume um the grnch amazing performance. We 1170 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 1: have talked about the Grinch episode, but we talked about 1171 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 1: we talked about Faith Hill. We did not talk about 1172 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 1: Jim Carrey, Paige me Press the Stalk. Okay, what we've 1173 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 1: we've we've quoted that line before you got to you 1174 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 1: gotta see the Grinch because not only is he given 1175 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 1: an amazing performance, but also like a lot of people 1176 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 1: are like, it's like biller Win is in and he's 1177 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 1: so good. The mayor of who we, Christine Baranski is 1178 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 1: the next day putting upper lights and that tailor mom. 1179 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 1: Seasonally it's not appropriate anymore, but still see it. Yeah, Seasonally, 1180 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 1: culturally it's important. I'll see a Christmas movie in the summer. Dude, 1181 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 1: you're honestly wild. I like, actually, don't give a fuck. 1182 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god, um, time to drop into ten guys 1183 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 1: at this time. Time to drop into ten. So um, guys, 1184 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 1: um listen. I want to know, Tim, what have you 1185 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,600 Speaker 1: seen this year? What's coming up for the Oscars that 1186 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 1: you're like, Hell yeah, you are you tuned in? Because 1187 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,959 Speaker 1: I want to keep this part of the podcast because 1188 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 1: they're coming up. Okay, okay, um. I feel like I 1189 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 1: haven't really seen that much that many movies recently. One 1190 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 1: are the best pictures. I mean, you know what, The 1191 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,920 Speaker 1: last movie I saw is Mowanna. If we want to 1192 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 1: get into it, oh, I don't think. No, I don't 1193 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 1: know trigger word. I don't want to get into it. 1194 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it. I will say, 1195 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 1: I will say I would you like it? I did 1196 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 1: like it. I loved it. Actually talking about this, you know, 1197 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 1: I was very bored by Mowanna. And that's this. That's 1198 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,920 Speaker 1: just the reason why I didn't like it very much 1199 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 1: because it bored me. I thought I thought that it 1200 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 1: could have been better based on the standards of all 1201 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 1: the Disney movies I've seen. It just been swept away 1202 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 1: by That's my only problem. And I we watched we 1203 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,440 Speaker 1: saw together, and the reprise of How Far All Go 1204 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 1: was so moving and beautiful. I just lifted us up 1205 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: and then it just sort of left us hanging for 1206 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 1: the rest of the movie. It's frustrating when you see 1207 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 1: a movie that's capable of so much and then like 1208 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 1: it just doesn't deliver that throughout. I so I I 1209 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 1: see that. I see that for me. I was with 1210 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,080 Speaker 1: it the whole time. I thought looked beautiful. I thought 1211 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 1: all the music was great. I was like I was 1212 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: laughing that. I was laughing at the Dumas rooster. I 1213 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 1: love that little thing. But I've come around on the 1214 01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,920 Speaker 1: rooster because I know that this is the thing. I 1215 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 1: used to say it should have been the pig, but 1216 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 1: the fact that it should have been the pig and 1217 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,800 Speaker 1: it was the rooster is what's so great. And that's 1218 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 1: the subversion that I was looking for in the movie, 1219 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 1: because I was like, where was the sub version? Which 1220 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 1: was a dumb thing to stay. Looking back, I just 1221 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 1: didn't like. I just didn't like the movie. But I 1222 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 1: think it's so funny. The up top of this cute 1223 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,280 Speaker 1: pig has made such a big part of it, and 1224 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I'm still ray for this pig. Know, 1225 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 1: he was cracking me up, and it's like, oh, who's 1226 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 1: in here with me? Like that's gonna be the pig 1227 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 1: and it's like the Okay, I will say this because 1228 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 1: because I said this in the thread, the thread about 1229 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 1: ma wanna Um, because I I think the first song 1230 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 1: in that movie is like so wonderful and I haven't 1231 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,040 Speaker 1: seen a song like that in a Disney movie where 1232 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I love where I'm from, I want, 1233 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,400 Speaker 1: I want to have more, but I still love where 1234 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm from. And to she like, you know this little 1235 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 1: town sucks? You know no? And I love how that 1236 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 1: song you write to him. I I completely agree. I 1237 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 1: love how that song frames responsibility in a very positive way, 1238 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 1: and she as a protagonist, is receiving them and saying, yes, 1239 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 1: I am going to be a leader. This is what 1240 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 1: I have to do. And she's not like it's not 1241 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 1: a spiteful thing at all. Yeah, and no one leaves, 1242 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 1: that's right, we stay. I liked so much of the music. 1243 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 1: I liked Your Welcome, and I really liked um the 1244 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 1: when the grandmother returns as a spirit spoiler and she's like, uh, 1245 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 1: you remember what I must what I have told you, 1246 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 1: and she's like, I am the daughter of and then 1247 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 1: she the last thing is yeah, I also love hasn't 1248 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 1: always been this. I can't tell you something I hated that, 1249 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 1: I know. I think you have a good point, Like 1250 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 1: that is like why hap that that it doesn't need 1251 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 1: It's like it's a screenplay moment, you know what I mean, 1252 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 1: Like it doesn't need to be there. But I think 1253 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 1: that song and that vocal performance is like fucking cool 1254 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 1: from but also like it's up my alley, you know 1255 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,320 Speaker 1: it's that. Yeah, it's such a was such a Tim 1256 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 1: platinum moment. I saw it. I was like, this is Tim. 1257 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,200 Speaker 1: Don't give me the Hawaana, don't give me the how 1258 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,400 Speaker 1: far I'll go reprise and then give me that crap singing. Look, look, look, 1259 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,480 Speaker 1: I think I think it's Matt has this relationship with 1260 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 1: Frozen where we saw it together in the theater, didn't 1261 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 1: love it, but then you saw it again with kids 1262 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 1: or in another context got on board with I think 1263 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 1: I will give Moana another shot. It's not that I 1264 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 1: love Frozen and therefore everything else is disqualified. I just no. 1265 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,320 Speaker 1: But that is like that is like a feeling that 1266 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 1: is out there, you know what I mean. It's like, 1267 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,440 Speaker 1: well it wasn't as good as Frozen. It's like it's 1268 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,600 Speaker 1: like that's like a sentiment which is like, you gotta 1269 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 1: choose either Tangled or Frozen, which is like a fun 1270 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,920 Speaker 1: conversation to have, but like not want to actually believe. 1271 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 1: But I do think there's this thing out there which 1272 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,920 Speaker 1: is like the people that like Frozen, the people that 1273 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 1: don't like Frozen, and the people that like Frozen like 1274 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 1: people assume that we think it's the best fucking thing 1275 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 1: ever because it did do so unbelievably well. I just 1276 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 1: think Frozen is great because it it took a step 1277 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,360 Speaker 1: forward for me in terms of what those Disney movies 1278 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 1: could be and eventually ended up being a love story 1279 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 1: between the sisters. I get if like the movie board 1280 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 1: you and like, you know, the let it Go sequence 1281 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 1: is the only good sequence. I understand people saying that 1282 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 1: I just, you know, preferred the the creative, innovative way 1283 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 1: that the storytelling was. Okay, As someone who doesn't care 1284 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 1: for Frozen or Mowanna, I just want to say one 1285 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 1: of the best movies, full stop is Wreck It, Ralph. 1286 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 1: Everyone must see it. You haven't seen it yet. I haven't. 1287 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:23,920 Speaker 1: I want to see it, Tim, I think it's going 1288 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,280 Speaker 1: to blow your mind. Okay, I also want to see 1289 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 1: uh Joel posted about Storks being better than the Utopia, 1290 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 1: and I don't know if that wasn't. I think I 1291 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 1: do want to see saying because I've heard great things. 1292 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,200 Speaker 1: I want to seeing too because there's music in it, 1293 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,720 Speaker 1: because I'm allergic to any animated movies that doesn't have 1294 01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,600 Speaker 1: any music except Monsters, inc. I love Monsters. I just 1295 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:49,640 Speaker 1: saw and I thought that was good. I thought that 1296 01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,600 Speaker 1: was a good movie. I didn't I liked the movie, 1297 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,160 Speaker 1: but people were really just it didn't hit the heights set. 1298 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 1: It was the people telling me that that's what I 1299 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,439 Speaker 1: was expecting a lot, and I enjoyed it. I enjoyed 1300 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 1: it as well. So Joel was joking about Storks. No, 1301 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,400 Speaker 1: I think he must generally will follow up with Joel, 1302 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gonna I'm gonna ask him. I 1303 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 1: was really excited by that take because I was like, oh, 1304 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 1: I guess I'll watched Storks like I went to have 1305 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 1: watched because it's it's a movie that I feel like 1306 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,760 Speaker 1: I would not have watched. And then it got this 1307 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 1: glowing response from out of nowhere, and so I was excited. 1308 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 1: I was excited to be like my jumping into this thing, 1309 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 1: you know what can go see storks together that I 1310 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:29,760 Speaker 1: would like that. I would like that. I would do 1311 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 1: another ten. Um, it's time to do another ten. And 1312 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 1: while you're doing that ten, it's time for everyone to 1313 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:41,280 Speaker 1: get ready for the signature, the signature honey moment and 1314 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 1: every last culture this episode it's I don't think so honey, 1315 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 1: And this is our opportunity here on loss. Culture's just 1316 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 1: to take that one thing that's really been pushing our 1317 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 1: proverbial buttons and rail against it for one minute on 1318 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 1: the clock. Now, both our guest Tim and Bowen have 1319 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 1: their heads in their hands and they're they're stressed. What's 1320 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,440 Speaker 1: going on? I just don't know. This is truly the 1321 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 1: most unprepared, like even off the cuff, because you're just 1322 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,480 Speaker 1: so happy in your life. No, it's just that I 1323 01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 1: feel like I've really just directed my frustration and my 1324 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,120 Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, nous at a lot of 1325 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 1: different things, and I don't know if I'm running out 1326 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Well, how about you start, Matt. 1327 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 1: I would like to start, because I do have one okay, 1328 01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,000 Speaker 1: so I'll set the clock for you, and i'd like 1329 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,960 Speaker 1: open hearts and open minds. If that's okay, depends it depends. 1330 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,640 Speaker 1: I grant you that, but that's alone. Here we go 1331 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,160 Speaker 1: okay because Matt Rodgers, I don't think so, honey. Time 1332 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,720 Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. The Starbucks that 1333 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 1: are popping up all over the city, that put a 1334 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,360 Speaker 1: lot of their money into their aesthetic and not on 1335 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,640 Speaker 1: more seats, Come on, we need more seats and Starbucks. 1336 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,160 Speaker 1: If I go to a Starbus or if I live 1337 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 1: near near a Starbucks, I want to be able to 1338 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:54,920 Speaker 1: sit down, bitch. I want to be able to go 1339 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 1: there and use the WiFi. Hello, bitch, I just moved 1340 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,240 Speaker 1: into an apartment with my boyfriend Henry, who's a lovely, 1341 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 1: amazing person. But you know what, sometimes he's teaching a lesson. 1342 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,720 Speaker 1: It needs to be on the keys, tinkling tinkling away. 1343 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 1: He's a musician, he's loud, and I would like to 1344 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 1: go to a starbust to be able to sit down. 1345 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 1: But no, you put your budget into the fucking walls 1346 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:15,000 Speaker 1: being made out of like like like, oh, I don't 1347 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,439 Speaker 1: think so, honey, I need a fucking seat. How come 1348 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 1: there's four seats in here and fucking eight lamps. I 1349 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,639 Speaker 1: don't need more lamps, bitch, I need somewhere to sit. 1350 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,160 Speaker 1: Also make it easier for me to love into your wife. 1351 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,680 Speaker 1: I God damn it. How come it takes me like 1352 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 1: no time to fucking get my VENTI drink, but fift 1353 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,200 Speaker 1: twenty minutes the standard of the WiFi. If you know 1354 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 1: anything Starbucks, you know that people use you to sit 1355 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,160 Speaker 1: down and hang out as much as they do for drinks. 1356 01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,759 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Change okay, And that's one minute. 1357 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,720 Speaker 1: That was one of my best ones ever. Really. That 1358 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 1: was really because I feel like I made my point 1359 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 1: and I feel like now there'll be a change that's 1360 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:53,760 Speaker 1: I measure my I don't think so, honey. And do 1361 01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 1: I think after the fact that something will change? And 1362 01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,800 Speaker 1: I think this is what Matt, This is what Matt 1363 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 1: is to enact, and uh, you know effect change in 1364 01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:08,800 Speaker 1: lieu of having senators who are in opposition of him? 1365 01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,320 Speaker 1: Is that right? Because you know what? Yes, I am 1366 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,320 Speaker 1: from New York born and raised, and therefore, like I 1367 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 1: call my senators and like, yeah, I know, yeah, I 1368 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,320 Speaker 1: also I'm outraged at the same but um, but now 1369 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:19,960 Speaker 1: you have a place I have a place to put 1370 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 1: my anger in. Its Starbucks. That said it's important to 1371 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 1: call senators about specifics because we were just joking. Yeah, 1372 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 1: I because I want to say that. It's also nice 1373 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:37,200 Speaker 1: to say thank you. I tweeted Brandon. I said thank 1374 01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 1: you because I think her. I think she's the fucking best. 1375 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:44,200 Speaker 1: She's the rock star. And to Tim we finished that thought, 1376 01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 1: um that because with all the stuff that's happening, it's 1377 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,920 Speaker 1: very easy to call it and just be like protect 1378 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,000 Speaker 1: us from Trump, you know, but like it's so much 1379 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:58,679 Speaker 1: helpful and be like, oh, like through it was saying 1380 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,720 Speaker 1: all the the people that you have a problem with 1381 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,000 Speaker 1: the specific ability of problem with is very Uh. I 1382 01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 1: think it's good. It's good for you, and it's good 1383 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,360 Speaker 1: for the for the for them. Yes, every time I 1384 01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:10,960 Speaker 1: talk about this stuff, I feel like I'm just like 1385 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:15,000 Speaker 1: reciting things I've read. But then you eventually you a 1386 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,800 Speaker 1: master you you get your own vocabulary for it, and 1387 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,240 Speaker 1: that's when that's when you break through. Because I feel 1388 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,840 Speaker 1: like I haven't been emotional. I feel you talked about 1389 01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 1: being an emotional on the phone with your with your 1390 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 1: standards and representatives, and I feel like I'm still very Metrick. 1391 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read this script thank you like I feel 1392 01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,040 Speaker 1: like I don't know, I feel like I'm talking to 1393 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,479 Speaker 1: like my teacher's mom or something like that. If if 1394 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 1: this helps. I usually don't read from a script, but 1395 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,960 Speaker 1: I will like pour over some get a sense of 1396 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 1: what I want to say, and then I will physically 1397 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,559 Speaker 1: This is the sounds weird, but it's just because it's 1398 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:49,840 Speaker 1: like the only place at work where I can do 1399 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 1: this in privacy, because I will go to the back 1400 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:57,480 Speaker 1: and just go into the darkest corner and feel physically 1401 01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,960 Speaker 1: sort of just like I have to really just surround 1402 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,680 Speaker 1: myself with what, like I don't know, with something that 1403 01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,120 Speaker 1: matches the sentiment or whatever, and then I'll just go 1404 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,559 Speaker 1: into I'm never angry. I just get I'm never emotional, 1405 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,760 Speaker 1: I should say, I get just a little snippy, but 1406 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:17,240 Speaker 1: appropriately and politely. So like today I called UM. Famously, 1407 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,120 Speaker 1: my representative walked snuck out of a town hall meeting 1408 01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 1: that was that was my representative from my district. And 1409 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,600 Speaker 1: I called his office today and one of his staffers, 1410 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,640 Speaker 1: very nice guy UM took a message for me and 1411 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,400 Speaker 1: I said, Hi, I just want to UM say that 1412 01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,280 Speaker 1: I think it's unfortunate that Congressman and Kaufman left his 1413 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 1: own town hall meeting. UM. But if he is, but 1414 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,599 Speaker 1: if he's afraid of a hostile reception, I just think 1415 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:42,880 Speaker 1: he needs to see that as a way of his 1416 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:47,879 Speaker 1: constituents UM holding him accountable. So UM, I would encourage 1417 01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,960 Speaker 1: him to really um have more FaceTime with his with 1418 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:52,600 Speaker 1: with the people he represents. And that's all I have 1419 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 1: to say. Like that was just a more tame way 1420 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,080 Speaker 1: of me to just be like, hey, that was sucking stupid. 1421 01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 1: Why did you do that? You know, there's always like 1422 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 1: a positive way to read them. Okay, you need more time? 1423 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:06,479 Speaker 1: Or should tim go? No? Um, I can go okay, okay, 1424 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,880 Speaker 1: I have one, but I don't want to do that one. Sure, No, 1425 01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,639 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I just just came up with mine. 1426 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 1: And this is the beauty if I don't think so honey, 1427 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,800 Speaker 1: And I told him this, um, you know, the the 1428 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,400 Speaker 1: less significant Sometimes it's nice and we whip out our 1429 01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 1: improv backgrounds and bone Yang's. I don't think so honey 1430 01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,439 Speaker 1: starts right now. I don't think so honey. Uber drivers 1431 01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,400 Speaker 1: who do not stop at where they designated place marker 1432 01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,519 Speaker 1: on your map is there was a reason that the 1433 01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,160 Speaker 1: user is able to designate the pickup spot. And I 1434 01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,840 Speaker 1: will do my best, my best, and Matt can vouch 1435 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:38,639 Speaker 1: for this, and Tim can vouch for this. I will 1436 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,800 Speaker 1: do my best to go to the exact spot where 1437 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,000 Speaker 1: the pin has dropped. And honey, these drivers don't know 1438 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,400 Speaker 1: they're way around to the city blocks and cities are 1439 01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,040 Speaker 1: supposed to be familiar with that they're being paid to 1440 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,400 Speaker 1: be familiar with. And honey, they ask me what roots 1441 01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,519 Speaker 1: to go and oh, don't even at me started. I 1442 01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,840 Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. On drivers, taxi drivers, uber drivers, whatever, 1443 01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,880 Speaker 1: who asked you to navigate for them, Oh, that is unacceptable. 1444 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,800 Speaker 1: Download ways for your phone, download any for your phone. 1445 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,200 Speaker 1: This is unacceptable. I don't think so. Many drivers who 1446 01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,920 Speaker 1: do are not good at their jobs. I will give 1447 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,640 Speaker 1: you a two star reading. I will never give you 1448 01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 1: one star wating unless you slap me in the face. 1449 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 1: But I don't think so, honey. Drivers who do not 1450 01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 1: do not respect this transaction of them knowing their way 1451 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,360 Speaker 1: around the goddamn city, bitch. I don't think so, honey. 1452 01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:24,160 Speaker 1: Uber drivers named Jordan's or whatever, or greg I've had 1453 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,120 Speaker 1: bad Greg's and and they they are bad drivers. One minute, 1454 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,040 Speaker 1: Gregs are bad drivers. Think this is the first time 1455 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,479 Speaker 1: in the podcast history that Matt hasn't interrupted Bowen's I 1456 01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,040 Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. You know, he's like, really shady 1457 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:40,479 Speaker 1: of you to say it's especially in lieu of recent conflicts. Well, 1458 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,760 Speaker 1: I just did the last episode. You mean because I 1459 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,720 Speaker 1: was that's because my personality and characters being attacked live. 1460 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,920 Speaker 1: It was just really nice to see you hold your 1461 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,320 Speaker 1: tongue for once, and that was really I hope you'll 1462 01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,599 Speaker 1: take that one forward. Well. I hope that I continue 1463 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,200 Speaker 1: to do bet through of this podcast, that I do 1464 01:13:56,360 --> 01:14:00,720 Speaker 1: that today behavior, honey, I don't you know. I think 1465 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:03,760 Speaker 1: push ups. Um, I think I do fine. I think 1466 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,599 Speaker 1: you do such a good job. You do ten plush 1467 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,760 Speaker 1: ups or else you're gonna be fucked up. All right, 1468 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 1: your arms are going to be uneven and sucked up. 1469 01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,800 Speaker 1: I have one of them happy with Okay, great, I 1470 01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,920 Speaker 1: wasn't all that you kind of say, I wasn't all 1471 01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 1: the way happy with mine. That's fine, Bowen Platt starts 1472 01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,559 Speaker 1: right now. I don't think so, honey. Coffee shops where 1473 01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,360 Speaker 1: you when I ask you if there's WiFi and you 1474 01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,200 Speaker 1: say yes, there's WiFi, and I get a coffee and 1475 01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,600 Speaker 1: I get a pastry, and I sit down, and I 1476 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,640 Speaker 1: opened up my laptop and there's no WiFi. And I go, 1477 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,080 Speaker 1: what can I say? There's no WiFi? And the go, yeah, well, 1478 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,360 Speaker 1: I guess it's not working. Why did you tell me 1479 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:44,040 Speaker 1: there was WiFi? When I bought with my own money 1480 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,120 Speaker 1: coffee and I set up a space I could get 1481 01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,200 Speaker 1: coffee and pastry anywhere with WiFi. That's why I bought. 1482 01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:54,160 Speaker 1: I bought a ticket to WiFi, and you said, your 1483 01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,679 Speaker 1: ticket is accepted. And then I got to the fucking 1484 01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:58,599 Speaker 1: sign and it turns out it was a steel ticket. 1485 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 1: You can't rip in half and give you my have back. 1486 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 1: Now I'm stuck there. What are they gonna do? Free? 1487 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,080 Speaker 1: Write on a fucking word document? No, I wanted to 1488 01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,400 Speaker 1: do right? Or do it? No? I want you to Spotify. No, 1489 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,320 Speaker 1: I want to Facebook when I get a little bit 1490 01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 1: bored of writing. And you betrayed me, and I should 1491 01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,880 Speaker 1: get my money back and you should give me a 1492 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:25,600 Speaker 1: free pastry next time. That was the most monstrous I 1493 01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,320 Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, yet I love it. I love 1494 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 1: that you took it in a whole new direction. Every 1495 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,880 Speaker 1: part of it has been rebranded. That was amazing. You 1496 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,880 Speaker 1: know what, You're absolutely right, It's absolutely right. It does 1497 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,960 Speaker 1: drive me insane. Happens all the time. And a thing 1498 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:40,720 Speaker 1: where it's like yeah, of course, like it's nothing. It's 1499 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,720 Speaker 1: like one of those like true, like what am I 1500 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 1: gonna If I complain about this, I would be a monster, 1501 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,680 Speaker 1: you know if I was like But also also you 1502 01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,240 Speaker 1: that's why you spent the money there, you know. It's 1503 01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,519 Speaker 1: it's a con. It's insane that that's yeah, that is 1504 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,320 Speaker 1: that's part of the deal. And that's the problem I 1505 01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,880 Speaker 1: have with Starbucks too. Why when I go in there 1506 01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,400 Speaker 1: do I have to answer goddamn questionnaire When I get 1507 01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,679 Speaker 1: to get into your wife, you don't have to, well, Matt, 1508 01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 1: that's because you don't have to. I think you have 1509 01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,439 Speaker 1: to fill out of tests if I have to do 1510 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,680 Speaker 1: a test. Um guys, ten more push ups as we 1511 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:16,040 Speaker 1: um as we sail out here, guys, Tim, We're gonna 1512 01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:21,760 Speaker 1: be on your showy Sloop generally on Wednesday at the 1513 01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,360 Speaker 1: Brick Theater at eight p m. Pierre Mills, wife and 1514 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,200 Speaker 1: Lola Ramirez and I are hosting Sloop Gumley and it's 1515 01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,599 Speaker 1: a great show because we like to bring performers from 1516 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,840 Speaker 1: different performance worlds, like uh, we have like a writer 1517 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:39,640 Speaker 1: and playwright who's reading. We have a comedian what's it? 1518 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:44,160 Speaker 1: Oh fu um? We also have cocoon dance dances, we 1519 01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:48,120 Speaker 1: have we have we have people from different performance worlds 1520 01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:49,840 Speaker 1: and very exciting and Sluck is going to be like 1521 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 1: of course Bowen and I will be performing as Sluck 1522 01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,080 Speaker 1: and we have not performed it. Suck minute sometimes so 1523 01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,640 Speaker 1: you know what the kids are thirsty first lock and 1524 01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,439 Speaker 1: oh god, I just want to say I love that 1525 01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:12,160 Speaker 1: name sleep Jumble. Yes, so, uh, Peter and Lordla and 1526 01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,160 Speaker 1: I were meeting and uh we were like on the 1527 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,439 Speaker 1: kick of like doing songs with reference that that slanted, 1528 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,720 Speaker 1: and I said, oh, sloop jumble and we laughed and 1529 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,479 Speaker 1: then I was like this is the way, and both 1530 01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,880 Speaker 1: that's how sloop, that's how last Culture is. That's good. 1531 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,839 Speaker 1: I was like, what if it's called last culture stuffs 1532 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,679 Speaker 1: and Bone was like that's so stupid and just laughed. 1533 01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:34,880 Speaker 1: And then I was like, well we have to do it. 1534 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,599 Speaker 1: And then that was how we knew if you laugh 1535 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,880 Speaker 1: at it, you should marry it. Alright, guys, can I 1536 01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,320 Speaker 1: I want to tell one quick story before we go. 1537 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,120 Speaker 1: So me and my high school best friend Ken were 1538 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,879 Speaker 1: playing volleyball in the backyard, and his little sister Kathleen, 1539 01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,200 Speaker 1: who was five, was in the garden with her dad, 1540 01:17:56,360 --> 01:18:02,559 Speaker 1: and Kathleen was very um, very like garious, and she said, 1541 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:06,800 Speaker 1: I love tomatoes. And the dad said, well, if you 1542 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,679 Speaker 1: love tomato so much, why don't you marry it, because 1543 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:13,080 Speaker 1: he had like a goofy sense of humor. And Kathleen said, well, 1544 01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:17,519 Speaker 1: because you know you can't dance with it. And that's 1545 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,240 Speaker 1: why I love kids. Everyone to look up story, parents, 1546 01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,720 Speaker 1: guys our thanks to Tim Platt. Tim. They can find 1547 01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,440 Speaker 1: you on social media on Instagram at I am King Bozoh. 1548 01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:32,200 Speaker 1: On Twitter, Twitter is just Timothy Platt. Timothy Platt. I'm 1549 01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,559 Speaker 1: on Facebook at Tim Platt. But that took Facebook off 1550 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,880 Speaker 1: my phone so it won't be the responsive. That's very 1551 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,760 Speaker 1: good tumbler. I love gift cards dot Com. Tim. We 1552 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,000 Speaker 1: love you so much, Thank you so much. We're gonna 1553 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:49,040 Speaker 1: kiss you, Tim. This this isnt Roger's is the last 1554 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,679 Speaker 1: culture podcast. Thanks Forever dogg and thank you bye bye. Tim. 1555 01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,960 Speaker 1: This has been a Forever Dog production, executive produced by 1556 01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:05,000 Speaker 1: Joe Cilio, Alex Ramsay, and Brett Bohm. For more podcasts, 1557 01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:12,120 Speaker 1: please visit Trevor Dog Productions dot com. M h m 1558 01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:12,479 Speaker 1: hm