1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,400 Speaker 1: This is the press show. 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 2: Zane is taking over Las Vegas this January for his 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 2: seven night Presidents Adobe Live at Park MGM. And we've 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: got a trip for two to the January twenty fifth 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: show to night Hotel State at Park MGM January twenty 6 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: fourth through the twenty sixth and round trip airfare. Text 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 2: forever to three seven three three seven now for a 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: chance to win. A confirmation text will be said. Standard 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: message of data rates may apply all thanks to Live Nation. 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: It's stay or go. She'll like give us some advice. Yes, okay, 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 2: go today. If you said no, we would just want 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: have moved on. Hi, Kelly, Oh you gotta push that 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: on button. Hi Kelly, Sorry on It is important to 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 2: push when you're one. People are talking to radio. How 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: you doing. 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: Hey, I'm okay. 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: I wanted some advice. 18 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: Oh oh, she's right into it man, like she did. 19 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: This is serious time. 20 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: No, not at all. All right, let's talk about this. 21 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: I have I'm going to pretend like I don't know 22 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: what you're to say, but I've read your note. 23 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Okay, this is about your boyfriend. 24 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: It is Yeah, we've been together for gosh six six 25 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: and a half. 26 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: Years, okay, and so yeah, and you you witnessed something 27 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: rather unfortunate for you and for him quite frankly, because 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: nobody really wants to get caught, uh like this, But 29 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: explain what what did you see? 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: So? I had gotten home from work and I walked 31 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: in on him watching let's call it adult content, and 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 3: you will. 33 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: I see familiar. 34 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: I see, yeah on the fun iPad? 35 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: Did he have his did he have his full laptop? 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: It makes a difference. Was he in front of his 37 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: desktop computer? Was it a video? Is it a v 38 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: ahent projector? Why does it make a difference because I 39 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: need to know, like, if you have a projector out 40 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: like he wheeled out, you know what I mean? 41 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, if you're on my couch watching on my 42 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: eighty in it's not even sanitary. Okay now sorry, but 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: what is the answer though? 44 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: Was it the phone? 45 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: Luckily it wasn't a projector, but it was his iPad, 46 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: so it was a little bit bigger iPad. 47 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: That's serious. 48 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: Well, and that's why I was able to see it 49 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: very clearly. Uh that you know, it was not the 50 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: kind of adult content that I was expecting. Again, I watch, 51 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: I watched, There's nothing wrong with it. It was just 52 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: that he was watching. Uh gay man. 53 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: Walked out? She did walked out. You can't compete with that. Okay, 54 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: did you finish? All right? So you wow? All right? 55 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: So so you walk in on this first of the 56 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: logistics of the iPad too, it's I'm caught, I'm caught 57 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: on the details here. But so so you walk in. 58 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: He's watching content that is is not congruent with what 59 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: you thought he was into. Based on the fact that 60 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: you've been with him for six and a half years, 61 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: and did you did you say something of him, because look, 62 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you're right, there's nothing wrong with consuming that 63 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: kind of content. I realized that it's slippery slope. There 64 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: can be other issues and connection issues, and there's a 65 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 2: lot of there's a lot of reasons why this could 66 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: be problematic. But in itself, watching that kind of content 67 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: is all right. And but but yet this was this 68 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: was not this was not what you thought he was into. 69 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: So you asked him about it. What does he say? 70 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: Well, I had said, like, what what is happening? And 71 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: he said he wanted to try something new and you know, 72 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: listen again, there's nothing wrong with it, and he said 73 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: it's fantasy, Like I'm not going to act on it. 74 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: People do that, like I, I don't want to do 75 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: it in real life. 76 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: Jason heard this one before. 77 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I do think that it's okay to I 78 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 4: don't know you, I don't watch everything I would actually do, right, Like, 79 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 4: do you everything that you watch? 80 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: Are you actually going to try to do in real life? 81 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: That's point? Yeah, gay aunt you know, but you will. 82 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 3: And that's what he has said, like he flipped. 83 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 5: The script something going on, like watch two women? 84 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: So why like, what's wrong with me? 85 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: It's kind of a double standard. I will say, there 86 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 2: is a double is it? Everybody can be watching two 87 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: girls and that's. 88 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 5: Not three women? 89 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: Do say that they watch that? Yeah, and that's no 90 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: one's saying anything about that. 91 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 5: That's true. 92 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 2: But then you know a couple of dudes and now 93 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we you know, now we're questioning 94 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 2: someone like true identity. 95 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: That is That is a good point. Is there's a 96 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: double standard there? Yeah, it was her. 97 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 6: We wouldn't better this man would not be batting an 98 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 6: eye at her, you know what I mean. 99 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: There was like, oh no, it's another Tuesday at the house. 100 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 7: But because it's two men exactly bred Yeah, you're. 101 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:19,559 Speaker 2: Right, but but I will say I don't like, yeah, 102 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: well we'll get to that, but like I don't, I 103 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: don't mean yeah, I'm starting to interrupt you, but I 104 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say. I have vast conversations with my friends 105 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: about what sort of content they like, but none of 106 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: them have shared with me that they like watching two men. 107 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: So I don't know if that's just like another level 108 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: or if it's simply a double standard and I should 109 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 2: be able to watch that and no one should say 110 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: two things about it, Like I don't know, I don't 111 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: know why that is so so he's just fantasizing you 112 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: have other concerns. Have you ever had any other reason 113 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: to question and try if you can, to remove the 114 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: fact that you're now sort of influenced by what you 115 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: saw him watching. Have you ever had any concern other wise? 116 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: Like without this, never, I feel like sometime something happens 117 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I've been seeing the signs, but maybe 118 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: you're putting two things together that weren't already there. So never, 119 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: you've never and and everything in your life intimately has 120 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: been sound and and. 121 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: All of that, and we're I mean, you know, again, 122 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: we've been together forever, but it's not like, you know, 123 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: that is an issue for us. We are physical together, 124 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: you know. Of course, now I'm over analyzing everything, like 125 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: oh yeah, a couple of months ago when he said, 126 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, that man is you know that he's 127 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: like an Adonis, and I thought to jump him. 128 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: I'd love to jump him intimately, but I love up 129 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: and you know that now you're concerned about that, I'm. 130 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: Thinking, yeah, of course. And then like, oh my gosh, 131 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 3: you know last week when we were intimate, was he 132 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: thinking about that Adonnas at the supermarket? 133 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: Like, you know, if he's referring to other men as Adonnas, 134 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: maybe we yes, maybe, I mean, we have more to 135 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 2: talk about here. Okay, I want to take some phone 136 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: calls on this. I want to see if other people 137 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: have to say eight five five five one three five. 138 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: We'll surveyed the room here as well. I appreciate you 139 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: sharing this. Have the radio on and let's see what 140 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: people say. Maybe other people can relate and have been 141 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: through this. 142 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: Good luck, Kelly, Thank you, I really appreciate it. 143 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: Got it so in short, this man that she's been 144 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: with for six and a half years, she walked in 145 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: on him consuming content of two gay of two men, 146 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: of two men enjoying one another's company a lot, and 147 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: it's it's uncharacteristic. It's not what she thought he was into. 148 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: He's never expressed that before. And what I what I 149 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: was saying to her was I didn't want her to 150 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: jump to conclusions like I didn't want her to say. Well, 151 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: now that he did that, now I can connect the 152 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: dots to a bunch of other stuff. If he's really 153 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: calling other men adonis, then it's interesting. But here's the 154 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: other thing. It doesn't necessarily mean that he doesn't value her. 155 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that he doesn't value what they do together. 156 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: It's possible that the guy is by curious maybe, but 157 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: that doesn't that doesn't If the concern here is that 158 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: it's that his affection for her, or his life for her, 159 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: or their life together is fraudulent, I don't think it 160 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: necessarily says that. It doesn't have to mean that. It 161 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: could mean that he has some kind of fantasy that 162 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: he's not comfortable sharing because of this kind of speculation 163 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: or the double standard that we referred to earlier, or whatever, 164 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: But like, I don't, I you're right if I walked 165 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: in on it, if I'm dating a woman and I 166 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: walked in she was watching two women. I wouldn't necessarily 167 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: assume that I'm no longer you know, she's not into me, 168 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: So I don't know why it would be fair to 169 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: do it the other way around. We all agree yeah 170 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: or or or no. 171 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 6: Well, I just think sometimes like what we watch doesn't 172 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 6: really always equal like real life, especially like the Damsel 173 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 6: in Distress, Like, no, I will never like, you know, 174 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 6: be like doing things with like the burglar that comes 175 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 6: in the house right, Like. 176 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: That's good, sounds like something and have done many times 177 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 2: him reading in the house again, climbing through the. 178 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: I'm here to rib you girl. 179 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 7: No, but like in the bedroom yes, So like I 180 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 7: don't know, I just feel like would I have questions 181 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 7: absolutely like yeah, why not? But at the same time, 182 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 7: it's like I got to think back to like when 183 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 7: you first discover this stuff and you're like exploring It's. 184 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: Like, did you not like look into that, you know 185 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: when you first discovered it? 186 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 5: Do you know what I'm saying? 187 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: Like maybe it's new to him or in the situation, 188 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: new to her. Boys, I'm just not certain that. 189 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: If her concern is that, because why would you Okay, 190 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 2: why would somebody worry about this. You'd worry because it's like, oh, 191 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: he likes men, he doesn't like women. Well, I don't 192 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: think it necessarily means that. It could mean he also 193 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: likes men, because apparently he like her and she was 194 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: none the wiser and their intimate life has been sound 195 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: until she saw this, and now she's second guessing it. 196 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: So if that's her worry, then I don't necessarily think 197 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 2: that she that that one leads to the other. Now, Jason, 198 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: you in a previous time in your life, yeah, you 199 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: were with women and you did not necessarily like or 200 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: care for them, but you also did know, right, And 201 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: I don't mean to speak for you, but we've talked 202 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: about this at length for a decade or longer. You 203 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 2: did know that that wasn't necessarily what you wanted to 204 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: gravitate towards. You were kind of doing it to conform, right. 205 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I think it was. 206 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 8: Yeah. 207 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 9: I think like you sort of set out and think 208 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 9: what you should do and what you should be in 209 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 9: the world. But I mean, I definitely did care for 210 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 9: the women that I was with, and. 211 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: So there's a world where he could maybe be with 212 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: her because he's repressing what he really wants to do. 213 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's possible, people do that every single day. But 214 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 9: I think to jump to that conclusion just from this 215 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 9: specific example is. 216 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: A little much. 217 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: Six and a half years to be with someone while 218 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: you really you want to do something else is a 219 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: very long time. And then for her to not see 220 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: any sign or feel any sort of gap in the connection, 221 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like. 222 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 5: You'll do it all the time though people live secret 223 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 5: lives relationship. 224 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 10: I guess, yeah, I guess, Hey, Sarah, Yeah, Hey, what 225 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 10: do you think if you're just tuning in a woman 226 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 10: with a boyfriend of six and a half years, she 227 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 10: walks in on him watching content that is not necessarily 228 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 10: what she brings to the table, and now she's questioning everything. 229 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 8: I think she should still stay. I think you know, 230 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 8: it's somewhat normal for you know, people to watch that. Again, 231 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 8: like you said, the double standard, and if you bisexual, 232 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 8: that still doesn't change you know how he feels about her. 233 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: I mean, now I can just now I'll have her 234 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: jokes like the George Michael posters all over the room. 235 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you might have I don't know, Madonna. 236 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: He loves to go to he loves to go to 237 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: a village of people or whatever, the village of people 238 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: cover band shows. 239 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, that's that's normal, isn't it. 240 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: You know you have a steam works all right? 241 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: All right, Sarah, So it's normal and and and so 242 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 2: she should stick with it. 243 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, okay, fair enough, Thank you, Sarah. 244 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 8: I have a good day, of course, Thanks you too. 245 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 1: Glad you called. Hey, Josie. How you doing, Josie? So 246 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: you call the radio station. Look alive, Josie. 247 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: Wait, we're on the radio station all right now, Thank 248 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: you for calling him for listening? 249 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: What say you? 250 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 11: I think she should stay okay? And I say that 251 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 11: because I feel like maybe there needs to be a 252 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 11: little bit more communication between them. I know it's been 253 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 11: they've been together quite a long time, and like he 254 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 11: said it, you know, it is a fantasy that maybe 255 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 11: he was just a little bit embarrassed to like tell 256 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 11: her about. I kind of went through a similar situation 257 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 11: with my now fiance, except that my fiance in the 258 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 11: past acted upon it. And we're still kind of working 259 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 11: through that whole what what what the heck did you do? 260 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: How did he act upon it? 261 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: Now? How did he did he act upon it before 262 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: he met you? Did he cheat on you as a man? 263 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: Like when you say acted upon it and you work 264 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: through it, like, what does that mean? 265 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 11: So he before he met me, and it was with 266 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 11: a transgender man who wanted to be a woman, and 267 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 11: he knew this person before he met me, and then 268 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 11: while we were dating, he acted upon it recently. So 269 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 11: we're still trying to work through that. And with our 270 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 11: communication that we've been going through is that he told 271 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 11: me it was fantasy. Obviously, the typical lack of judgment. 272 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 11: I was being selfish, blah blah blah. So we're still 273 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 11: trying to work through that. But I will never forget 274 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 11: because I live and die by the Golden Girls. And 275 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 11: one of the quotes in the show that Sophia says 276 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 11: is that if you could erase this one moment in 277 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 11: your entire relationship, is this the person that you still 278 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 11: want to be with? And my answer was yet, Okay, 279 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 11: we are working. We are working through that, rebuilding that trust. 280 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 11: You know. Obviously, everyone has their fantasies, everyone has their 281 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 11: their likes, but he is not really one to communicate 282 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 11: his feelings because he feels embarrassed about the things that 283 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 11: he likes in that aspect, but he has been more 284 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 11: open about it, which I'm glad that he is more 285 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 11: comfortable to talk to me about that. 286 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 10: Well. 287 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: I think that's a good sign. Right, that's good. 288 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: Now you you've opened the lines of communication. You've you've 289 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: made him feel accepted, and so I think you're going 290 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: to get the truth, as opposed to if you shunned 291 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: him or you pretended like it never happened, then in 292 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: the back of your mind you'd always wonder, like, what's 293 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: really going on here? But I think you've done the 294 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: right thing. You've said, this is the person I want 295 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: to be with, and I accept you for who you are. 296 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: So let's work through this and let's let's have an 297 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: open dialogue. I think I think that's the only. 298 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 11: Way exactly, and communication is key. And you're right. I 299 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 11: didn't shun him because I feel like if I did, 300 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 11: then he would be a lot less, a more reluctant 301 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 11: to communicate with me about Say. 302 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right, Josie. I'm glad you called. 303 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: I'm glad that I yelled at you to talk to me, 304 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: because this is a great call. 305 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 11: You welcome up. 306 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: I love you have a good day. 307 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, all these years later, man, Hey Amber, Hi, Hi Amber, 308 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: good morning. 309 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: Stare go go. 310 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: Why oh, well, with my opinion, if that was me 311 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: and I was with a man for over six years 312 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: and you. 313 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 5: Know I randomly saw him doing what he was doing 314 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 5: the middle of the. 315 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: Night, morning, whatever. 316 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 12: Time of day it was, I would almost kind of 317 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 12: be like offended, almost in shock, especially if I didn't 318 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 12: know that was something that he was into or exploring. 319 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 12: I don't think I can be with somebody that's even 320 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 12: bisexual or has ever been with a man ever. 321 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: That's just, you know, not something that I'm into. 322 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 5: I'm completely heterosexual, and that's you know, how I would 323 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 5: want my boyfriend or husband or you know, fiancee to 324 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 5: be or whatever the case may be. Uh, you know, 325 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 5: six years is more than half a decade. That's you know, 326 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 5: a pretty good chunk of time for somebody that you've 327 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 5: been with and they've never done this before. You know, 328 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 5: you never knew about this, So for it to be 329 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 5: like new information, you know, I don't think it's worth. 330 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: Saying, Okay, fair enough, Amberg, thank you, thank you. 331 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: I think the bottom line is that if she really 332 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: cares about this man, it really wants to be with him, 333 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: and she can live with it, live with what she saw. 334 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 2: Then the only way is to have a dialogue and 335 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: to make the guy feel like she's comfortable with him, 336 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: and and maybe the end result is that we find 337 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: out that they're not supposed to be together or that, 338 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: or that he has been repressing something. But like again, 339 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: you could shun it, and then he's never going to 340 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: tell you anything about anything, and you're always going to wonder, 341 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: or you can have the conversation is I don't know 342 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: that there's another choice. 343 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, seeing a man do that at all is a 344 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: little terrifying. So no matter what he's watching, you know, 345 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: how do you get that on your brain? Yeah, that's 346 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: that's something that we you never you never want. 347 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 5: You kind of you know, I would look with so 348 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 5: much shame, Like if someone want to know you never 349 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 5: you never want to get coughing with myself. 350 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like it. I'd you off