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Speaker 1: Thirty birds. What's up and welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: Falcons Final Whistle presented by Zaxby's. I'm your host Will mcfad.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by Tory mclaney and Tarren Walk and we

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Speaker 1: are down here in Miami for joint practices. The Falcons

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Speaker 1: and the Dolphins shared the field for the very first

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Speaker 1: one today and it was a lot of fun honestly

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Speaker 1: that the fans were there. There was a really good

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Speaker 1: energy I think out there for the session. Tarran, we'll

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Speaker 1: start with you, what was kind of like big picture

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Speaker 1: observation from the first joint practice today?

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Speaker 2: Put some respect on Fort Lauderdale, please.

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Speaker 1: All.

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Speaker 3: Technically Miami Gardens is where the stadium and practice facility

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Speaker 3: is in this moment right.

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Speaker 1: Now, we're in South Florida.

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Speaker 2: South Florida. I'll settle with that. You're outside three oh five.

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Speaker 1: We are latitude four thirty six and longitude I don't

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Speaker 1: even know what the latitudes and longitude.

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Speaker 3: I was I was ready for, like I was going

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Speaker 3: to let you go with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my brand, honestly, is just being able to

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Speaker 1: know stuff like that. I've cultivated a very specific brand

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Speaker 1: where people wouldn't be shocked by that.

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Speaker 4: They're in degrees just like degrees was way too many today, but.

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Speaker 3: Nice, nice segue.

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Speaker 1: It was very hot.

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Speaker 3: It was so hot. It was not as bad as

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Speaker 3: last year, though having been here last year, last year

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Speaker 3: was way worse. We at least got like cloud coverage

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Speaker 3: and a breeze today. Last year there was none of that.

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Speaker 4: Will got to sit in the stands while Tori and

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Speaker 4: I were sweating, and because of like if the joint practices,

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Speaker 4: the Falcons offense paired up with the Falcons defense, the

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Speaker 4: Falcons defense.

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Speaker 3: No, the Falcons Sun.

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Speaker 4: Dreat Yeah, Dolphins defense, Falcons defense, Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: Offense, Yep, you got it. Special teams.

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Speaker 4: I don't know where they were, but probably together somewhere.

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Speaker 4: And so I was over with the Falcons offense and

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Speaker 4: the Dolphins defense. Tory was with the opposite of those two,

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Speaker 4: and so we were like right in the end zone.

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Speaker 4: And I'm pretty sure I looked over and you were

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Speaker 4: the only one in that corner, and I was the

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Speaker 4: only one in my corner and everyone else was in

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Speaker 4: the stands.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if Tory was breaking some rules. But given

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Speaker 1: the fact that y'all were the only two literally just

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Speaker 1: standing on the field. As you said, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: the rules went out the window when the media went

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Speaker 1: to the stands.

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Speaker 3: Here's right next to security.

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Speaker 1: I followed them.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing. I am prone to ask for forgiveness,

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Speaker 3: not permission.

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Speaker 1: To Yes, we should because I appreciate the heck out

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think it's good life advice.

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Speaker 1: You don't know what you don't know exactly. So what

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Speaker 1: don't fans know about what happened today, Tori? What is

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Speaker 3: I think that the physicality went up. I think we

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Speaker 3: talked about like the physicality from the first week of

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Speaker 3: no pads to the second week with pads, the intensity

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Speaker 3: the physicality obviously goes up, but the physicality and density

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Speaker 3: not your teammate, I think just cranks it up a

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Speaker 3: we saw that today. I really you talked about the energy.

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Speaker 3: I thought the energy was good. And something else too,

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Speaker 3: is like it wasn't a perfect practice. It very much

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Speaker 3: showed kind of how far the Falcons still need to go.

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Speaker 3: What they're having more of a clarity of what their

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Speaker 3: I was with the Falcons defense shoes with the offense,

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Speaker 3: about joint practices. This is the time. These two practices

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Speaker 3: preseason more than preseason games for me, more than just

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Speaker 1: So when you said it it was a little it

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Speaker 1: wasn't like the cleanest practice, and I totally understand what

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Speaker 1: that it was pretty balanced, you know, and a different

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Speaker 1: way of reading that could be that there were mistakes

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Speaker 1: The difference here is that it's not the Falcons capitalizing

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Speaker 1: that the Falcons need to and issues is a strong word.

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Speaker 1: But like Karen, you had Kirk Cousins kind of passing

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's been for me at least,

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Speaker 1: Like the main takeaway of training camp is like Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins just looks like he's ready to go, and today

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Speaker 3: I think that this is a byproduct of the gang,

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Speaker 3: and it's a byproduct of the Falcons trying to figure

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Speaker 3: think that it's less about oh, maybe there were too

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the other team.

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Speaker 3: I feel I feel like I'm maybe even not articulating

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Speaker 3: obvious to me that they were challenge Yeah, they were

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Speaker 1: Playoff team, right, playoff team from last year?

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Speaker 3: No, for sure.

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Speaker 4: I mean even in the one on ones, it's not

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Speaker 4: like it was stewed one way drastically over another. I

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Speaker 4: I took notes and whatnot. It showed that like the

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Speaker 4: Dolphins had, the Falcons had two more incompletions than the

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Speaker 4: and it just felt different than what we have been seeing.

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Speaker 4: But I think because the introduction of somebody who's actually like,

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Speaker 4: I don't want you.

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Speaker 3: To get this.

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Speaker 4: Is my success and where it's like, it's not that

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Speaker 4: the Falcons defense hasn't been competitive in practice, it's just

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Speaker 2: Colors.

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Speaker 3: tern was with the offense defense.

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Speaker 1: We'll start defense offense, Okay, great.

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Speaker 2: You felt like, I know, you felt opposite.

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Speaker 3: I felt completely about halfway and.

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Speaker 4: We're like, I think Dolphins were dominant in that compared

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Speaker 2: You're like, oh my gosh, I think opposite.

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Speaker 2: I gave you an accent.

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Speaker 3: I do have one, but like not that kind.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're yeah, my deep yeah, I do have vocal

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Speaker 3: So defense, I was very pleased with what I saw

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Speaker 3: And I've thoroughly enjoyed that, and I think they really

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Speaker 3: very competitive, it was very physical, which I enjoyed. I

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Speaker 3: to me, I find him to be so fascinating because he,

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Speaker 1: I mean, think of his first start last year, right

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Speaker 1: it was a tough situation.

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Speaker 5: I want to say it was like an NFC North team.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, but Tampa Okay, totally wrong.

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Speaker 2: His first start was Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: What was game two Carolina? Wow? Okay, So I thought

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Speaker 3: He did play, okay.

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Speaker 1: But that was Yeah, that was before he became a starter.

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Speaker 1: But but basically like he's he started out of the

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Speaker 1: So that goes along exactly with your philosophy that he's

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Speaker 1: like a good pressure moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is what you want kind of in that role.

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Speaker 3: You need these corners to be fearless to a certain

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Speaker 3: that I don't think every single It's very different than

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of other positions. In the singularity

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Speaker 1: You have to be able to lose without losing your confidence. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that is a hard thing I think to.

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Speaker 3: Do right, And that is something that I think it's

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Speaker 3: really interesting and we'll get into this later, but that

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Speaker 3: Mike Cues, we saw that from moment to moment. Today

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Speaker 3: he got Tyreek Hill just zoomed past him for a

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Speaker 3: of eleven on elevens, when they flip the field, Mike

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, though, Tyreek Hill still did what Tyreek

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Speaker 4: I didn't necessarily realize it in the moment because I

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Speaker 4: But then he had three incompletions in that series two,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, going to happen, right, happen at some point this season.

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Speaker 1: in the shade.

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Speaker 3: What like.

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Speaker 1: So why did you feel Miami defensively their defensive backs

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Speaker 4: One they were just there, like no one was able

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Speaker 4: Just didn't seem like Miami was exploding off the line

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Speaker 4: Dad, only the only one and only Jeffrey walk Jeffrey.

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Speaker 4: good skirmish. I was like, oh go, And the first

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Speaker 3: never like I remember he's from Massachusetts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, also the best guard in the NFL. You don't

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Speaker 4: Then it's just like and then he's a sweet teddy bear.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, Chris.

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Speaker 4: He got in a little skirmish after Tyler Algio's run.

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Speaker 2: But like that was just.

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Speaker 4: Not that like the incompletions were necessarily his fault again

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Speaker 2: So it's like just adjusting.

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Speaker 4: As you were saying, Tory, I can't like just nod

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Speaker 2: About you, But you saw it later too. It got

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Speaker 4: Double That one though was because it wasn't an alignment

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Speaker 4: wasn't even on our field, Yeah, he was over on

441
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 4: this spit. I saw him and then I just see

442
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 4: him running and waving like stopped.

443
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:14,360
Speaker 3: Stupid.

444
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: Well, because there was such an interesting thing that Raheem said.

445
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 1: Going back and listening to his press conference afterwards on

446
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 1: the right back and I may ask him some follow

447
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 1: ups about this tomorrow, but just him talking about part

448
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: of the reason they that he loves Join practices is

449
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 1: because you can mitigate the injury aspect of it based

450
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 1: on the way that you script the practice. And so

451
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: I want to learn a little bit more about like

452
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 1: how do you mitigate the injury? But like I'm not

453
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: shocked then to hear that Mike McDaniel is like hold

454
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 1: the phone, what is everybody doing over here? Like cut

455
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 1: it out?

456
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 3: Because children.

457
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: The whole point is like, hey, Raheem and Mike have

458
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: a history, like they they respect the way that both

459
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: parties go about it. Their teams are like in life

460
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 1: step it seems, with how they want to conduct these

461
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: joint practices, and a big part of that is getting

462
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: everybody healthy to the regular season. So you know, again

463
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 1: you understand why fights breakout, and candidly, like when that happened,

464
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: everybody in the sands was going nuts. That was the

465
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: most excited they got all day, short short of Tyreeks.

466
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, short of Tyreek's forty yard touchdown.

467
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 2: Pass that when they started chanting Dolphins.

468
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 3: Yes, it was probably.

469
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: They did also get a random Dolphins chant going at

470
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Speaker 1: one point, just while like the quarterbacks were talking to

471
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: like Bradley Pinion in young way too. I was like,

472
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: we guess this is not the right time read the room.

473
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 3: You know.

474
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 2: I loved it, like hearing the fans again.

475
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is honestly, we miss we miss y'all. We

476
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: at a training camp. But switching from the starting quarterback

477
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: to Michael Pennox because I think that he had a

478
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: really solid day that probably got progressively better as it

479
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: went along. So what did you see from Michael Pennis?

480
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:03,719
Speaker 4: Yes, I think we're seeing Pennix be consistent in his

481
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 4: own way, Like I don't know that he's ever had

482
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 4: like a really really down day or really really up day.

483
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I think his game is

484
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: different than like at this point going into year thirteen,

485
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 1: you're just able to, like I we said on Friday,

486
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: like the checkdowns, he just understands kind of like boom

487
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,479
Speaker 1: boom boom. I think with Pennix, like it's still the

488
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: talent is like his arm is just Howitzer and so

489
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: with that you do. And it's not that he's like

490
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: trying to fit the ball in a super tight windows

491
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: or anything. It's more just the deal for where the

492
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: receivers are, where the ball needs to go, just missing

493
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 1: a little bit right and dialing that in. But that's

494
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: why the Falcons are giving him a.

495
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 4: Runway before I go to the two points I wanted

496
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 4: to hit with Penix, he did have like a really

497
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 4: nice deep pass to Kataro Hodge and I feel like

498
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 4: it was one of those moments I was like, there's.

499
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: That whip and that's the that's it right now.

500
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 2: That's why, that's what differentiates him.

501
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that's why he's here.

502
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: That would sting bare hands or glove because.

503
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 1: Which darn Old Mooney I noticed in like warm up

504
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 1: drills the other like catching with no gloves on. I

505
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: freaking love it when you get a receiver. Like if

506
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: I if I was starting right now, I'm gonna make

507
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: my son no no gloves like it's sorry, yeah, no gloves.

508
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: We're going to just get out in the backyard. I'm

509
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: gonna get Michael Pennix Junior to throw them some freaking fastballs.

510
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: Got to train him.

511
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 4: But sorry, I might call a.

512
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: I can't even walk yet, right, He's gonna learn today.

513
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 4: But what stood out most to me, I think Pennix

514
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 4: had a really good time near the goal line, which

515
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 4: I thought was interesting, Like just the instincts there were

516
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 4: good because he was the one who threw two touchdown

517
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 4: passes back to back. He had one two Carlos Washington Junior,

518
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 4: who we're going to see a lot of, we have

519
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 4: seen a lot of, will continue to talk about him,

520
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 4: stay tuned. And then he also hit Rossdwlly, who I've

521
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 4: also spoken a fair bit about. So like those two

522
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 4: are really stepping up and capitalizing on their moments. But

523
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 4: I think it was just interesting that, like there were

524
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 4: very different plays and panics still recognized him and was

525
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 4: able to do it back to back.

526
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: So, Tory, we've got one more practice tomorrow. What are

527
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: you going into that practice? Kind of looking for what's

528
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: what's rattling around in the back of your mind.

529
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 3: So we didn't see Braylan Trice out at practice today.

530
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: Cough cough, he's he's sick. He is intended perfect, So

531
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 3: he is in Miami with us. It did travel down

532
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 3: to Miami, but we didn't see him today. And it

533
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: was interesting because seeing without Braylin Trice, you got to

534
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 3: see more of Ardodabakhetti, Damone, Harris, Bradley and I, these

535
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: guys who outside of a K but da'mone and Bradley

536
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 3: and I. Every single time that they were out there,

537
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 3: I was like, these two guys are fighting for roster

538
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: spots and this week in this you know, joint practice

539
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: and and then the preseason game. It's those it's those

540
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: storylines that kind of matter right now. You know who

541
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 3: Grady Jared is, you know David an Yumata. Like we

542
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 3: we've been talking so much about the insidelnebacker rotation, which

543
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 3: that's exactly what it is between Caden, Troy and Nate.

544
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 3: But it's those extra pieces of depth that I think

545
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: is going to be very interesting to see tomorrow and

546
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: then once we do get to the preseason game. I

547
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 3: thought that just from today. I was very, very pleased

548
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 3: with what I saw in the red zone from this

549
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 3: defensive line. This defensive front I thought showed up in

550
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: the red zone in a way that I thought was

551
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 3: very promising.

552
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: I like that you said defensive front, Yes too, because

553
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: Jerry Bertrand was getting involved on some blitzes. We know

554
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: Kate Ellis and Troy Anderson are going to be very involved, right.

555
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm talking about the front seven. You know, Like,

556
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: I'm nothing against the guys in the secondary, because obviously

557
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: they have to do their job in the coverage, but

558
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 3: when you go into a red zone period and you're

559
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: backed up probably within fifteen yards of the goal line,

560
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 3: it's that defensive front that I thought was the starter,

561
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 3: the kickstarter for the entire defense. And it was like

562
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: every single group that rotated in how to play and

563
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 3: had a moment, they did not I said this earlier

564
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: in the podcast, and I'm going to say it again.

565
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 3: They did not make it easy for Tua in the pocket,

566
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: particularly in the red zone period. And that was something

567
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 3: that looking back on the day, that was the biggest

568
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 3: takeaway that I had and it's something that I think

569
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 3: could pay dividends for this defense as you go into

570
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: the preseason and also the regular season as a whole.

571
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 3: It was I don't know, David On Yamata was in

572
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 3: the backfield, Grady Jarrett and then I.

573
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: Mean even Brandon Dorless.

574
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: Brandon Dorrilyst and you know, we talked to Brandon Dorlys

575
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: after practice and he was talking about that period and

576
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 3: he was like, you know, there's something very intense that

577
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 3: comes comes along with that, and it also is we

578
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: want to be the starters. We want to be the kickstars.

579
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 3: We want to be the one that start things off

580
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: on the right note. We want to get a sack

581
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 3: in the red zone. And I don't know, I was

582
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: very pleased with that, but it's just continuing to see

583
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: that as we move forward, along with these various stories

584
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: of who could make this roster and where guys are

585
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: slotting in.

586
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of when I was sitting up in

587
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: the stands, I just looked at the front and kind

588
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: of the different combinations and basically what I've noticed is

589
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: like five man fronts with two liners, two insidelnebackers. When

590
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: you're not a nickel, that's your base. Look, then they've

591
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: got a combination where it stays a five man front

592
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: linebacker and you bring in your nickel, and then they've

593
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: got a four man front with two linebackers and a

594
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: nickel and primarily those have been there three packages.

595
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: Notice, and that is why I say all the time

596
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: that base defenses, almost to a certain extent, don't.

597
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: Matter, because nobody was like, they're running a five.

598
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: To two right, No one's sitting there being like, oh

599
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: like no. And also just I made this note in

600
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: the camp report, but I was really interested in the

601
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 3: way they were using D'Angelo Malone today almost like a

602
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: jack and with just either Nate Lambman or j. D.

603
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: Bertrand In I don't know. And then you also kind

604
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: of had this similar look for for Kaden Ellis where

605
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 3: he's he's up, and then you have these different blitz

606
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: packages for Troy Anderson and Cadenilla got it. You got

607
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: Dauford making a couple of plays in there. I mean,

608
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: there's a lot of things that you could do with

609
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: this defense.

610
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: Jesse Bates, where you at man just makes one sway,

611
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: Come on.

612
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: They're heavy heavy Sarcastle, heavy heavy Sarcastle. Oh but yeah,

613
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: so that's that's kind of where this defense left me.

614
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: I left the practice feeling very good about this defense?

615
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: Nice Taren, what about you? What do you want to see?

616
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 4: I feel like I don't want to say I didn't

617
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 4: feel good about the offense leaving. I just feel like

618
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 4: reality checked a bit, if that makes sense now that

619
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: I feel like we've been saying how and again, not

620
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 4: that he was bad, not that he wasn't consistent, but

621
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: it's not like I was over here being like, were

622
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 4: there one or two or three incompletions? There were multiple?

623
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 4: That is also more realistic. Oh so I feel like

624
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 4: today was probably a reality check a bit.

625
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: What about the run game because I kind of feel

626
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: like every time I glanced over, they were running the

627
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: ball a lot. So like that that's in just another

628
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: element when we're talking about like the offense, how did

629
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: they look versus were they moving the ball on the

630
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: ground or did you notice Miami's kind of front stifling

631
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: Tyler al jieron vajanal.

632
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: No, they were running it. I have a few notes

633
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 4: where it's like seven run nice n I put a

634
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: little nice.

635
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: I love that actually is.

636
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 4: More standout than just to play that I will go

637
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 4: by unnoticed. So like they were able. It's not that

638
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 4: they weren't moving the ball. I think it's just how

639
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: coming off of yesterday's practice, which was kind of slower

640
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 4: because they were traveling. But it's specifically that Friday night

641
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: line when Night one in Mercedes Men Stadium, where we

642
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: were all like o MG, yeah, amazing. It's just like,

643
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 4: it's not that vibe. So I think it's not that

644
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 4: it was bad, it's not that it was amazing. I

645
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: think it was just a reality check, like you need.

646
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 4: I feel like that's the one thing I think about

647
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 4: training camp. And you can call me a pessimist, I

648
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 4: call myself a realist.

649
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 3: I get that a lot.

650
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 4: But it's just keeping that in perspective because I mean

651
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 4: I covered the Saints two years ago, which I know

652
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 4: is going to get a lot of booze on this podcast,

653
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: but people there were like, this is the Saints team

654
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 4: that's gonna win it all.

655
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 6: They're great, They're great, they were not great. That is

656
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 6: what happens in every preseason camp. Yeah, with every single team.

657
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 6: Every single team goes into the offseason, into the into

658
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 6: the training camp being like we are super Bowl contenders

659
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 6: and this is we're going to the playoffs and this

660
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 6: team is so good. And then there's always a point

661
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 6: of being like, whether it comes the first week of

662
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 6: the preseason or the eighth week of the season, there's

663
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 6: always this reality check that even the very best teams

664
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 6: that you project to be the very best, can lose

665
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 6: to anyone at any point in time because there is

666
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 6: this level of parody in Philadelphia.

667
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, two teams right there.

668
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 4: I sperienced it with two teams now, Like I know

669
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 4: that's not that many, but it was just very like

670
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 4: very similar where people are saying the same thing.

671
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 3: Ok.

672
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's the preseason.

673
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 4: You can't you can't put all your eggs in one

674
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 4: bass and be like this is it.

675
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

676
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 4: I mean I've got to give the shout out to

677
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 4: our man though, because people did pick the Dolphins to

678
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl.

679
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: Here we are and you saying our man, we do

680
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: mean your man hip alas my man.

681
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: It's not a team man, Yeah, we're bulldogs over here.

682
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 4: Is making huge assumption so soon. I mean, all teams

683
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 4: are good right now. All teams are great right now,

684
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: because how can you not be.

685
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: There hasn't been a game. Nobody's lost a game exactly everybody.

686
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 4: That's the realist of me being here, like all right,

687
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 4: I'm back in my comfort zone today because things weren't.

688
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: You love navigating Rocky season. Yeah, it's it's like sometimes

689
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: you hear players when they've retired or whatever, and they're like, yeah,

690
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, you know when you're in training camp and

691
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: you kind of look around and you're three weeks and

692
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: you're like, this is not gonna be our year. We

693
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: don't have it, or you look around and you're like,

694
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: all right, we got a group, like this is gonna

695
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: be this is gonna be nice. Let's let's get it together.

696
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: I just have to imagine that somebody like Raheem Morris

697
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: doing this his entire life, like I would love to

698
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: get some truth ceram inum and just be like, have

699
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: you ever like three weeks into a training camp just

700
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 1: been like, man, can the off season get here already?

701
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: Because this is gonna be a slog? Or or did

702
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: they feel the same way that all of us feel,

703
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: which is you you get like tricked is a strong word,

704
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: but it's just that you're all you're well, all you're

705
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: doing is you're going off of what you have to evaluate,

706
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: right and and when you don't have any type of

707
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: real comparison point or extra data point to like base

708
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: anything off of you're just kind of doing what the

709
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: players are doing over and over again, which is you

710
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: learn the tendencies. At the other side, you know the

711
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: strengths and weaknesses, the deficiencies, and you can kind of

712
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: attack it or whatever. But it all just it's like

713
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: get gets muddled together a little bit.

714
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 4: And so when it came to two different teams showing

715
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 4: what they've got and where.

716
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: They stack up, yes, I think that's really really well said.

717
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and wrap up today's episode with

718
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: our Camp Champ from the first joint practices against Miami Dolphins.

719
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: This is probably a really really fun Camp Champ because

720
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: there was so much competition. So Taren, let's let's start

721
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: with you.

722
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 4: You're gonna hate my explanation. I picked Drake London because

723
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 4: his play started a fight. Here's the thing about Drake

724
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 4: I did.

725
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 3: We got him in the clear. My thing with Drake

726
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: is that Drake is such a chill, like very California

727
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 3: type of dude.

728
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: The chill is due to start fights.

729
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: But well that's the thing is like us off the

730
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: field and then on the field he has he does

731
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: have a switch that flips and that was the one

732
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: thing that I think I can't remember who's Darnel Mooney

733
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 3: or Ray Ray McLeod that was asked about him, and

734
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 3: they were like, he has an aggression to him that

735
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: you don't necessarily see right away until he's between the lines.

736
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 3: And I think that again going back to the conversation

737
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 3: that we were having about Chris Linstrom and how it's

738
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: like you have to have the best players have to

739
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: have an edge. Drake London's is slowly but surely coming

740
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: out more and more, and I think that comes with

741
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: like confidence in what's being done, experience and earn it. Yeah,

742
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: you earn that edge. Yeah, you earn the right to have.

743
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 1: You have your self confidence. But then also the team

744
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: has common in you, right, like so so yeah, there

745
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: there's I like, I think there definitely is a flip

746
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: switchers like banner that we can make for this team,

747
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: almost like you ever see the movie clock Stoppers, like

748
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: two thousand and two, just like that, these are the flips.

749
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: They may have been a little bit before your time.

750
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: It was a Disney Channel I think original movie. Yeah, man,

751
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: I love that movie. But it's like we need to

752
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: basically make that T shirt or that poster and just

753
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: call it flip switchers. And you have like Chris Linstrum

754
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: and Drake Drake London, and I mean Jesse Bates is

755
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: probably another good one, like Kaden Ellis is Again that

756
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: this t Grady is like the perfect example Jake Matthews.

757
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: So I really like Drake is as kind of a

758
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: falcon the camp chap. He also had an amazing toad

759
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: like tap.

760
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 2: It was a really good catch too.

761
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 4: So I want to pick him as my camp cham

762
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 4: because I think he showed a little bit of everything.

763
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 4: He showed that he can bounce back from issues because

764
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 4: I know there wasn't incompletion that nearly turned into an

765
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 4: interception off of him, but again he was able to

766
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 4: back and make the plays that mattered. Yeah, it was

767
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 4: an incompletion that what's his name, what's his name? David

768
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 4: Long Junior was picked off but it fell. But then

769
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 4: he later had that big catch where it's like you're

770
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 4: seeing both sides of the spectrum.

771
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: And that's what I love.

772
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 4: I love seeing like your highs and lows, like you

773
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 4: were saying with the cornerback, where you have those big

774
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 4: moments of stardom in those lower moments, it's just like

775
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 4: who can balance both, because if you get a bad

776
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 4: moment and you just fall to the sand, you're not

777
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 4: going to stick around. You're not gonna last long in

778
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: this league.

779
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: You're ready for my camp Champ.

780
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm so ready.

781
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 3: So my camp Champ is the canned gatorade at the

782
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: Miami Facility.

783
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 2: I didn't drink one. I believe I didn't drink one.

784
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

785
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: So people so mad at you if we have to

786
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: invite a canned gatorade in the show on.

787
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to get it. They can

788
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: win tomorrow at the facility at the Miami Facility. It's

789
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 3: my favorite thing. It's why it's the only thing that

790
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 3: gets me through these like hot af I don't know

791
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 3: if I can say that on the podcast, but.

792
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: That's what I think every time.

793
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: But like I love those canned gateor raids and it's

794
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: the old logo on the can which I love to

795
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,959
Speaker 3: But in all actuality, I'm not giving my camp Champ

796
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 3: to a singular person. I'm giving it to a group

797
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 3: A twelve mac I no, I am giving my camp

798
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 3: Champ to the defensive line. I think that they looked really,

799
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: really good in Spurts today. To the point of I'm

800
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 3: giving this to them solely based on what I saw

801
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: from them in the red zone. Truly, I thought that

802
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 3: was I would know. I wrote about it after practice

803
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: ended as like that was the best thing that I saw.

804
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 3: And granted I didn't watch the offense today. I only

805
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: watched the defense, but I have to give credit where

806
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 3: credit is due, where they turned it on, the same

807
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: thing that we're talking about with Drake London, you know,

808
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 3: clark Field's like they turned it on in the red

809
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: zone when it really mattered, and that's why they're my

810
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: camp champs for today.

811
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I noticed you only mentioned the defensive line

812
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: and not the defensive front, So yeah, linebackers, safeties, corners,

813
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: you guys got to get involved a little bit more,

814
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: I guess to earn the Camp champ But I really

815
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: like that because the defensive line was was really solid today,

816
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: and that's important. I know the Dolphins like have been

817
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: retooling their offensive line a little bit, so it's it's

818
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: not like they're going up against the Lions or the

819
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys from like their heyday, but still everything matters, and

820
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: the defensive front looked really good. I'm gonna go with

821
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: Clark Phillips. Yeah, as my as my camp champ. I

822
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: kind of feel like he's an obvious answer for today

823
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: because he just looked really solid. And that was something

824
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 1: actually that you know, I was talking to west Urham

825
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: about on Monday, just in kind of anticipation for this

826
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: trip down here, and like, all right, what what should

827
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: we keep an eye on? And it was kind of

828
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: like who outside of Tyreek Hill like doesn't have a

829
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: big day for Miami, Like because we know that Tyreek's

830
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: gonna get his, but just see how the other corners

831
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: and receivers also, and like everybody Clark was up against

832
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: that I was kind of watching. He did a really

833
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: really good job against a tough skill group. Yeah, so

834
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: I continue to think that as a second year player

835
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: in a new scheme, like that's a tough transition, but

836
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,479
Speaker 1: he is finding ways to still make plays. Like he

837
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: has more interceptions I think than anybody in camp so far, right.

838
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 3: Probably, so he's the only one that I think has two.

839
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so well yeah, yeah, So it's like he's

840
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: he is sticking around and I wouldn't be shocked even

841
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: though Mike Cues has continued to run with the ones. Again,

842
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: I think that that's kind of the veteran part that

843
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: he's bringing, but I wouldn't be shocked if Clark continues

844
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: to eat into that a little bit.

845
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: My thing with Clark is I remember this time last

846
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: year feeling like Clark Phillips was having a really, really

847
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 3: good camp in his rookie year. I remember talking about

848
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 3: Clark Phillips constantly because I loved watching him play. He's

849
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: someone who's undersized, that is a fact, but the way

850
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 3: he plays, he plays so much bigger than his size,

851
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: and that is something that I've never worried about Clark

852
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: phillips intensity level. I've never worried about Clark Phillips like

853
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 3: not being around the ball. There are very few times

854
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: that he's just not stuck on his guy. And when

855
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 3: he's not stuck on his guy, you take notice of

856
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: it because it's not something that happens very often. I

857
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: really like watching him play and call it like chip

858
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: on your shoulder, call it underdog, call it undersized, whatever.

859
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: I love it when a guy who doesn't fit the

860
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: norm of what a position is or what a a

861
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 3: strength build is succeeds because they they compensate for it

862
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 3: in other ways in the way that Clark Phillips compensates

863
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 3: for it is he's never going to let his guy breathe.

864
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 3: And that's something that I really really like seeing from him.

865
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 3: So I will tag onto your vote of Clark Phillips.

866
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 4: The third I too, will flip because I know one

867
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 4: of the biggest thing. As soon as I picked offense,

868
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 4: when Tory and I were like who's going to take offense?

869
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 2: Who's going to take defense?

870
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 4: I got to the offense and I was like, wait,

871
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 4: I was really curious about how the Dolphins receivers were

872
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 4: going to stack up against the Falcons secondary and so

873
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 4: hearing that he had an interception that he got a nod,

874
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 4: that the entire unit got a nod, I'll switch to

875
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 4: your time will come.

876
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 2: I said that about everyone I voted for. I don't

877
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: think their time will come.

878
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, Karen, don't worry because tomorrow we're gonna

879
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 3: flip and you can be with the defense and I'll

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00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: be with the offense.

881
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: Cool.

882
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be funny though.

883
00:42:46,840 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: If she'll get to talk about more disgruntle, more realism.

884
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 3: Perception versus reality. To quote Kirk.

885
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: Cousins, I love that.

886
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said it last week.

887
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: He calls me first thing every morning, and since me

888
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: that way.

889
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: And content content, content, you can think of other ways

890
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 3: I'd like to wake up.

891
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's go ahead and put this podcast

892
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: to bet. Speaking of all the waking up, congratulations to

893
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: Clark Phillips. He is the first two time camp champ,

894
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: so we have a leader in the clubhouse as a reminder.

895
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: When training camp officially wraps up, we will try to

896
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: get whoever has been selected our camp champ onto the

897
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: podcast with us to explain to them what the heck

898
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: we have been doing over the last three weeks that

899
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: nobody is having aware of in the locker room. But

900
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: we'll give them some type of prize TVD and yeah,

901
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: it'll be fun. So Clark Phillips is currently the leader

902
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: for that, but who knows, maybe Drake Lennon makes a

903
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: hard push. Maybe Kirk Cousins he'll get his second one.

904
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: We're halfway through, so yeah, there's still a lot of

905
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 3: a lot of camp days seven practices left.

906
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 1: Taren has that memorize she is counting down. All right, well,

907
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Speaker 1: let's go ahead and get out of here. That will

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Speaker 1: do it. For today's episode of Falcons Final Whistle, presented

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Speaker 1: by Zaxby's. We will see you guys again for our

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00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: next joint practice against Miami, which will take place on Wednesday.

911
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: But please like and subscribe, share this podcast with anybody

912
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: who is a Falcons fan in your family or immediate vicinity,

913
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: and please check us out on YouTube. This one will

914
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: not be on camera because again Miami currently sitting in

915
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: a hotel conference room, but we are putting everything on YouTube.

916
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: You can also go to Atlanta Falcons dot com to

917
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: check that out. So please spread the word. We can't

918
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: do this without you, but we certainly appreciate you all listening.

919
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Speaker 1: So for Tory mcaleney and Tarren Walk, I am Will McFadden.

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Speaker 1: We will see you guys tomorrow