1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: What's up everybody? 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to move the Sticks on a recap Monday, Djay, Bucky, 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Rhett with. 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: You, Buck. 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 1: Where's your location right now? By the way, because I 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: know what your house looks like, and I know what 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: you're set up in Jacksonville looks like, and that is neither. 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 3: I am in Philadelphia because the game was flex not 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: a Sunday night game, but it was moved up. But 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: I couldn't get it out, so I had to stay 12 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 3: the night, and so I'm leaving momentarily. 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: Are you in the airport right now? 14 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 4: I'm in Airport Maria. 15 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: Oh no, oh, that's that's where I stayed for I've stayed. 16 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: I've logged a lot of time in that airport. Airport. 17 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: A very nice lounge, by the way, I want to say, 18 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: it's up up top, it's not down below top. You 19 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: get a great lounge. Good spot. Rett, Good to see you, buddy. 20 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: Let's let's jump into the news here. I don't want 21 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: to talk about it. The who's anymore? They wont Yeah, yeah, 22 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: that's fine, all right, It's just not even fun anymore. 23 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: There's the news I want to get to before we 24 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: get to the games. Yeah, Dennis Allen, let go with 25 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: the Saints. They decide they've lost seven games in a 26 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: row and this isn't working, and this is a team 27 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: that has a whole host of issues. We can talk 28 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: about salary cap, we can talk about situation there at 29 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback position. Buck a lot of different directions. You 30 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: can go here, but you lose to the Carolina Panthers 31 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: by one point. But a Carolina Panther team that is 32 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: very much in the rebuild mode and you're a veteran 33 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: team with a lot of financial commitments. I think that 34 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: was the final straw. 35 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the final story. It's interesting hearing. 36 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: The reports coming out of there about how Gaio Benson 37 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: had kind of been doing some research the last couple 38 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 3: of weeks, talking to players, talking to people around the building, 39 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: trying to figure out what was going on with the team, 40 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: and then it kind of culminates in the Saints losing 41 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: to the Panthers and then he's fired shortly thereafter. Obviously, look, 42 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: the Saints were bound to have a regression based on 43 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: the way that they were using the credit card, you know, 44 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: the way that they were using salary caps and pushing 45 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: everything down into the future. 46 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 4: They never really did a full reset. And look, some 47 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: of this. 48 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 3: Is Dennis Allen, some of this is their organizational philosophy, 49 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: but they never took the time after all of those 50 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: years of kind of gunning for a super Bowl in. 51 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 4: Drew Brees's twilight, they never did a reset. 52 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 3: They never fully restocked the cupboard with young players that 53 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 3: eventually became their blue chip players that led them out 54 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: of kind of that salary cap purgatory. 55 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 5: Boy, I just felt like this was flawed from the start, 56 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 5: Like I just don't know that I get it for 57 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 5: continuity's sake, and that maybe the timing of when Sean 58 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 5: Payton stepped away, that this just kind of made the 59 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 5: most sense at the time to try to get the 60 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 5: most out of this roster and out of, you know, 61 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 5: some of the progress that you had made, you know, 62 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 5: with the tail end of the Sean Payton era, and 63 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 5: to kind of keep that continuity. 64 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 6: But I just never. 65 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 5: Felt like this team played with that same type of 66 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 5: entner that you saw when Sean Payton was there, that 67 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 5: they played the same type of togetherness, the same type 68 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 5: of connectedness and inspiration you know, was there ever a 69 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 5: great command of this team and of this franchise from 70 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 5: Dennis Allen, and I get it. It's hard to step 71 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 5: in and replace a guy that is the most beloved 72 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 5: head coach in your franchise's history, and it brought your 73 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 5: TV the only Super Bowl in your franchise's history. And 74 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 5: I just felt like, you know, watching some of the 75 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 5: players right, watching some of the development of some of 76 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 5: the players, watching some of the fall off from some 77 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 5: of these players, probably more important to note. And then 78 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 5: that kind of the last straw watching Camp Jordan was 79 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 5: so frustrated, I even want to go into the locker 80 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 5: room at the end of the game. Was essentially walking 81 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 5: out of the stadium. I think, go be you know, 82 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 5: the most veteran guy on that team, like the guy 83 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 5: that's most synonymous with the Saints, Camp Jordan. I couldn't 84 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 5: even bear it at the end of that game against 85 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 5: the Carolina Panthers. So certainly understand where the Saints felt 86 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 5: like they had to make a move, But like when 87 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 5: you look at the Saints at the bottom of the 88 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 5: NFC and you look at the top of the NFC 89 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 5: with the Detroit Lions, I don't know that you could 90 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 5: have a bigger gap or be on more opposite sides 91 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 5: of the spectrum in terms of connectedness with team, with 92 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 5: players and with head coach, right, And I think that 93 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 5: kind of puts it in perspective a little bit, considering 94 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 5: where the Lions came from and considering where the Saints 95 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 5: came from. And I just just don't feel like there 96 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 5: was there was enough juice with this team over the 97 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 5: last couple of years, and the move had to be made. 98 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: So rhtt you know this team very well, haven't grown 99 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: up there, I want to say, And Campbell spent some 100 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: time in New Orleans. I want to say, by the 101 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: name Aaron Glenn, who's with dand Campbell and Detroit pretty 102 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: well thought of, pretty well beloved. And I'll swing this 103 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 1: over to Buck on this. If we're if we're looking 104 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: forward and looking at what this is going to be, 105 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: let's call it what it is. This is going to 106 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: be two years of a swamp. To put in a 107 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: word that would resonate there, it's it's going to be 108 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: a swamp for a couple of years. 109 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: They're going to be bad. 110 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, the way this league is right now, there's 111 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: not you know, it's not just company of one or 112 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: two teams that are in this boat. There's seven, eight, 113 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: nine teams right now that are just as bad as 114 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: the Saints are. So you've got to find out somebody 115 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: who can be the best of the bad. 116 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: We'll worry about championships down the road. 117 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: I know they've won a super Bowl in the pass, 118 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: but we got to get we gotta we got to 119 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: take this time here where we're going to have assets 120 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: in terms of the draft, and we have to nail 121 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: this and I I think that is going to be huge, 122 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: and it's not just a drafting and I actually like 123 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: that a lot of pieces they haven't placed in their 124 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: personnel department led by Jeff Ireland in terms of going 125 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: out and finding players. They need to get people in 126 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: there that can develop these players. And that's why Aaron 127 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: Glenn is a name that makes a lot of sense 128 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: to me. And be patient with them. No, this is 129 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: going to be a few years before this gets back 130 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: to where you want it to be. 131 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 132 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: No, I think this is interesting because there're gonna be 133 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: a lot of teams that look at a Detroit rebuild 134 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: and how this team function and try and go there. 135 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: And also because of the experience that those guys had 136 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 3: to go through. 137 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 4: Uh did Dan Campbell start at zero to ten? Uh? 138 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 4: To start as Detroit tenyre one one? 139 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a bunch. 140 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't pretty, but yet they dug themselves out 141 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: of there. And then in terms of Aaron Glenn, the 142 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: struggles that they had defensively early, but Dan Campbell stuck 143 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: with him. He was able to kind of figure it out. 144 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: He went from being a man heavy guy to his 145 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: own guy to back to a man guy. So he's 146 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: shown some adaptability. We know he has the edge and 147 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: the fire. It will be interesting to see if they 148 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: do it because he does know the building, He understands 149 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: the lay of the land, and I think where they 150 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: are typically you go completely different than that. But I 151 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: will say this, Aaron Glenn and Dennis Allen, where teammates 152 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: at Texas A and M, is a friendship there. 153 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: It'll just be a little not dicey, but it just 154 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: be a little yeah, that's happening to take over those 155 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: It's a smile. 156 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 4: I'm just saying. It's one of those things that you 157 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 4: have to talk about. 158 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's interesting, but it'll be just to see 159 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: which direction they do go. Hats off to the same 160 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: to the Panthers. By the way, I want to give 161 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: them their love. It's a good win for them. Bryce 162 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: Young gets some nice things. Actually, watch this game back 163 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: to back and we'll get to the Miami game here 164 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: a little bit later on. But I watched those games 165 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: back to back and I just remember thinking, Okay, if 166 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: Caroline is going to move on, I do think that 167 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: Miami would be a great spot for Bryce to go 168 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: because toua Obviously, he has had injuries, he's missed time, 169 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: and he's just that, that's who the type of quarterback 170 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: that he is. If you're you know, if you're hoping 171 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: he can be something, that's the offense, that's the system, 172 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: that's putting the track team around him. That that's the 173 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: that's the blueprint for the Carolina Panthers if they are 174 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: going to keep Bryce Young. If not, I'd love to 175 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: see Bryce Young go to Miami and be kind of 176 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: their insurance policy there, tua insurance down the road. But 177 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: a good win there for a Carolina Panthers team that 178 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: really had a rough go of it. All right, let's 179 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: get to the second piece of news on the coaching front. 180 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: We'll get to all these games, but I thought we 181 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: should start here. We talked about Dennis Allen going, how 182 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: about the Raiders rat the Raiders day jettison, Lukeasi the 183 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, offensive line coach gone, quarterback coach gone. That 184 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: is a lot to replace within a season. But the 185 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: other side of it is you can't get worse, so 186 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, let's try something else. 187 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, I think there was a lot about, you know, 188 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 5: the way that the offense was constructed at the top 189 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 5: that left you know, some things to be desired, right. 190 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 5: I think there was a lot of talk about, you know, 191 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 5: the way in which you know, Luke Getsy utilized justin 192 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 5: fields there in Chicago, was it all fields? Was it 193 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 5: gets He was a combination of both. And he comes 194 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 5: in in a you know, a really tough spot like 195 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 5: where you've got two quarterbacks that you know, I'm not 196 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 5: sure would find you know, starting quarterback. You know, jobs 197 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 5: to lead a franchise anywhere else with with Gardner Minshew 198 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 5: and with Aidan O'Connell. And as much as you know, 199 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 5: I love watching Gardner Minshew play like it just it 200 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 5: has that fit has not worked. 201 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 6: He's had some. 202 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 5: Flashes, certainly where they've had some competent play there, but 203 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 5: not not on the whole enough to have winning football 204 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 5: on a consistent basis. So this was an unenviable situation. 205 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 5: I feel like offensively, really for anyone quarterback coordinator, I 206 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 5: just feel like that roster on the offensive side had flaws. 207 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 5: But here's here's one thing, Bucky, here's what I'm doing 208 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 5: as I'm stepping in, you know, to the play caller role. 209 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 5: Now for the Las Vegas Raiders, Priorty one, Get brock 210 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 5: Bowers involved, Priority two, Get brock Powers involved, Priority three. 211 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 5: Use brock Bowers in some way, shape or form to 212 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 5: help ignite your run game, and then let's see where 213 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 5: we go from there. Because I think the more you 214 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 5: take the ball out of the air, out of the ball, 215 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 5: the more you try to you know, shorten games, the 216 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 5: more competitive you're gonna be able to be in some 217 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 5: of these games. 218 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the frustration for the Raiders, now, 219 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have suggested like a mid season firing not 220 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: only of the coordinator. 221 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 4: But the quarterback coach, the old line coach or whatever. 222 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 4: Lost a lot. That's a lot at one time. And 223 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: I'll say this like half the season. 224 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's enough time to do a 225 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 3: full evaluation on whether somebody is a good play caller 226 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 3: or not. 227 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 4: But here we are. 228 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: And so if you're the Raiders, the one thing that 229 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 3: Antonioppierce has talked about is they want to run the football. 230 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: They want to play tough and physical and has to 231 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: look right. They recognize and appreciate what they have in 232 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 3: brock Powers, and so in order raett it would be, Hey, 233 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 3: it's the brock Bowers show. And if it's not going 234 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 3: to brock Bowers, then it's going in the belly of 235 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: a running back. 236 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 4: And that's how we're going to operate. 237 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: We're gonna run it and run it and run it, 238 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: and we we throw it were throwing the brock Bowers 239 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 3: and then we're. 240 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 4: Gonna reset, let me and do it all over again. 241 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 4: Like that's what it has to. 242 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: Be because when you look at the players that they have, 243 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: if we talk about players, not players, brock Bowers and 244 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 3: I would say maybe the other tied end Michaelmarer. 245 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 4: The are two best players. So the ball has to 246 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 4: go to them first and then figure out who to 247 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 4: get it who else needs a touch, But it has 248 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 4: to be about a tight end centric offense. 249 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what the conversation was when the decisions 250 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: were made. But after watching the tape this morning, I 251 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if it was all right who in 252 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: the room coaches want a razor hand thought it would 253 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: be a good idea for their Munford to be left 254 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: alone with Trey hendrickson. Any hands, and maybe those are 255 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: the three hands that went up. I don't know, but 256 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: that was Holy Moly, that was that was painful. That 257 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: was X rated watching that matchup from that game. But 258 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: they have offensive line issues, they have some receiver issues, 259 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: but the elephant in the room is they've got a 260 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: quarterback issue. And until they can kind of figure that out, 261 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: they're never going to be a good offense. And I'm 262 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: just watching some of those throws from that game and 263 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: watching that tape, and I'm early on in the process 264 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: of watching guys, but I've never seen and Bucky, you 265 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: hit this quick and we'll move on. But I've never 266 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: seen Shador Sanders throw a ball as bad as some 267 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: of those throws in that game. I mean, I can 268 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: tell you right now, point blank. He upgrades what they're 269 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: working with in a big way, in a major way. 270 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: And that was that was always the entire risk when 271 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: they made the move. 272 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 3: One the money that they gave Gorn to Minshew, who 273 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: has been a journeyman player throughout his time in this league, 274 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: to think that he was going to be something different 275 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: as a starter for the Raiders is a little baffling. 276 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: And then Aidan O'Connell great story, loved what he was 277 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 3: able to do to close it out, but he's not 278 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 3: an upgrade. He's not a high end quarterback prospect, and 279 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: so they kind of stuck in. So that's why it 280 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 3: never made sense for them to let Josh Jacobs out 281 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: the building. Like if you have a running back, an 282 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: elite running back and mass some of your flaws at quarterback, 283 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: but because you let him walk, and now you don't. 284 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: Have an elite running back, you don't have an elite quarterback. 285 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 4: It's hard to play good football in this league without 286 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 4: a blue chip player at either position. 287 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: DJ all the way, I'll agree with you. I'll agree 288 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: with you, And I've got a saucy dug in the holster. 289 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: I've got a saucy dug in the holster. But you 290 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: go ahead, just let it. 291 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 5: Just let it marinate a little bit, right, Just let 292 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 5: that one get a little bit Crispier right there in 293 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 5: the friar. So sheen Steichen did get the most out 294 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 5: of Gardner Minshew last year, right, I mean like they 295 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 5: had that team within, you know, a fourth down drop 296 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 5: of going to the playoffs, and obviously it didn't work out. 297 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 5: So we've seen better Gardner Minshew, and so it does 298 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 5: make you wonder again when he comes back to fit, 299 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 5: comes back to playmaker, comes back to scheme, comes back 300 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 5: to people around that just kind of help bring out 301 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 5: the bad side of what we've seen from Gardner as well. 302 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: You talked about it, Josh Jacobs. 303 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: Buck how about during the free agency last year, people, oh, 304 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, we got all these running backs and it 305 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: kind of shows all these guys are free agents with 306 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: the value and nobody wants these guys even though they're 307 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: high picks and good football players. Leading rusher in the NFL, 308 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: Derek Henry was a free agent last year, signed for 309 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: a reasonable deal. Number two Sakuon Barkley goes to Philadelphia. 310 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: He's having an unbelievable year, and number. 311 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: Three Josh Jacobs. 312 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: All three of those free agents last year that the 313 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: best three running backs in the NFL through the halfway 314 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: point of the season, So it worked out quite well 315 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: for those teams making an investment, which is going to 316 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: get me to the next game here, because this is 317 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: really kind of the game of the day was Detroit 318 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: Green Bay and if you look at this game, I 319 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: was thinking about this from Detroit standpoint, and they won 320 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: this ball game twenty four to fourteen. And I want 321 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: to get to some other thoughts on it as well, 322 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: but the first thing I was thinking of was the NFC. 323 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,599 Speaker 1: The Philadelphi Eagles, who've been right there right chasing a 324 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: championship right there, missed lost in a Super Bowl. They 325 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: go out and get Saquon Barkley as that piece. The 326 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, who are knocking on the door in the 327 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: championship game last year. They've they invest a first round 328 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: pick in Jamior Gibbs, who's a big time difference maker 329 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: for their offense. And then you have San Francisco and 330 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: they're going to get McCaffrey back. And we saw what 331 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: they look like with McCaffrey in their offense and the 332 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: jolt that he gave them when he came via a 333 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: trade which. 334 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: Was not cheap, in a contract that is not cheap. 335 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: I just find it fascinating that these teams that have 336 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: good offensive coaches, respected offensive minds have decided, you know, 337 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: and teams that are super Bowl caliber teams have decided 338 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: to invest some resources in premier running backs. 339 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: Buck. 340 00:14:58,800 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that is not a surprise. 341 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 3: It's one of those things where we went through this 342 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: phase where everyone was talking about the devaluation of a 343 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 3: running back. 344 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 4: You don't need one, and I think you need one. 345 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: I think it's about finding the right fit for your 346 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 3: offense based on the level of quarterback play that you have. 347 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 3: And to me, whenever you have an MVP and Lamar 348 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: Jackson and then you back it up with a guy 349 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: who's been a two time rushing champ, it says you 350 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 3: all you need about how some teams view the importance 351 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: of the position. And with Josh Jacobs having the success 352 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: that he's having to go with Derrick Henry Sakwon borak 353 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: through who I saw a real time and let me 354 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: say this, DJ, to see him do a backwards hurdle. 355 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: And you were you I need to know, tell me 356 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: where you were when that happened. 357 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: At this I'm right across the sideline, so I'm on 358 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: the it's on the other side of the field. But 359 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: I'm looking and I'm seeing it, and I'm like, did 360 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: he just backwards jump over a defender like I? And 361 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: and so everyone, even on the Jaguars sideline, was like, 362 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 3: so it is one of the more remarkable things that 363 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: I've ever seen, because that's not something that you can 364 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: think out plan and say, oh, you know what I'm doing. 365 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna turn around. Oh and when I get here, 366 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna pop up the instincts and the reaction 367 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 4: that he has. Man. But you know what I feel 368 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 4: bad for. I feel bad for all these high school 369 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 4: coaches around the country that it's gonna split around and 370 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 4: just jump up, and so many of them are gonna 371 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 4: have little timeouse penny. It's gonna get hit in the 372 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: little in the little yeah, oh yeah. Because that's not 373 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 4: for everybody. That's not for everybody. 374 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 5: You know what I thought of when I saw that, 375 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 5: I was like, I immediately thought Michael Jordan, right the signature, 376 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 5: you know, that's on the signature, imagerying imagery from you know, 377 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 5: the Jumpman collection, and with the leg like he did, 378 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 5: like the reverse Jordan, Like if if that Jordan dunk 379 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 5: had been from behind jumping that way with the legs 380 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 5: going up and over, Like I just I've never seen 381 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 5: someone with such incredible instinct have the athleticism to make 382 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 5: that kind of play on the fly, Like how does 383 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 5: that even register in your muscle memory? That just come 384 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 5: out like oh yeah, this is this is the best 385 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 5: path getting by this next guy. That just tells you 386 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 5: what kind of special player that is. 387 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: No doubt. 388 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: I want to go circle back real quick though on 389 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: on Detroit Green Bay. If we had an nd season 390 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: tournament like the NBA Buck, I mean, would anybody not 391 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: pick the Detroit Lions. I know the Chiefs are undefeated, 392 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: but I mean we're going to say if the Super 393 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: Bowl was tomorrow, is as the teams are currently constructed 394 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: and health wise, I mean, everybody would pick the Lions. 395 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 4: I mean you got to because their team that can 396 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 4: win any style, anyway, any place, however you want to 397 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 4: do it. They can do it. They can run it, 398 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 4: they can throw it, they can play defense. They have 399 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 4: an explosive offense. They want to play ball control. 400 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: Jerry Golf is effective, He's efficient, he is not putting 401 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 3: the ball in harm's way. I mean, this is just 402 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: a well constructed team. And to just think about all 403 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 3: the laughs and jokes that the Lions have endured throughout 404 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: the years, and to look at them right now as 405 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 3: the class of the league. They don't have any chips 406 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 3: to go with it, but to think about how they 407 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: played the roster they play. 408 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 4: Everybody's talking about their culture, their team building methods. This 409 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 4: team right now is kind of like the model of 410 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 4: how you want to build your team going forward. 411 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm happy for the yeah, go ahead, go ahead, good. Yeah. 412 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 5: I was just looking at this like, you know, thinking 413 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 5: back to when my dad was with the Lions and 414 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 5: going to some of those games and as hard as 415 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 5: it was and as bad as it had gotten, you 416 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 5: know that eight year before Matthew Stafford came, you know, 417 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 5: watching them oil and struggle through you know, a bottom 418 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 5: of the barrel type of roster and just not hitting 419 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 5: on top draft picks. And now seeing the way all 420 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 5: of that is has been so cool. And I think 421 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 5: Jared Goff's renaissance here with Detroit is one of the 422 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 5: best stories, you know, I think the league has to 423 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 5: offer over the course of the last couple of years. 424 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 6: We talk about the success he's had, you. 425 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 5: Know, this year in terms of just not throwing in completions, 426 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 5: I guess is his fourth game of the season with 427 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 5: an eighty plus completetion percentage with a passing touchdown, tied 428 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 5: for the most such games in a single season since 429 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 5: nineteen fifty. Now, I went back and looked at all 430 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 5: these throws, like this is not a dink and dunk 431 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 5: throw type of offense. Like he's pushing the ball down 432 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 5: the field to Sam Blaporta twenty yards on an indcut. 433 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 5: That throw to a Mona Saint Brown that back shoulder 434 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 5: down there in the red zone. 435 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 6: These are not like. 436 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 5: Low degree of difficulty throws that he's piling up here. 437 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 5: Sure there's some here and there, And then you think 438 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 5: about it, like, yeah, they got a really good offensive line, but. 439 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 6: He still gets hit in pressure at a pretty good rate. 440 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 5: Like they are not one of the top outfits in 441 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 5: terms of limiting pressure on the quarterback and limiting hits 442 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 5: on the quarterback. And just one more saucy nug here 443 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 5: for you, by the way, which I discovered in I'm 444 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 5: to study in the lines. This way, the Tampa Bay 445 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 5: Buccaneers have only allowed Baker Mayfield to get touched ten 446 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 5: times this year, seven sacks, three hits, he's only been 447 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 5: touched ten times, So just a little bonus saucy nug. 448 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 6: I'll let you finish though, DJ, which you got with 449 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 6: the Lions. 450 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: That's really socid. That is a good saucy nug. Look. 451 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: I had a chance to bump into Brad Holmes and 452 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: talk with him on the field. I was at the 453 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: Michigan Oregon game and talking to him before that game. 454 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: I said, exactly what you guys were just talking about, 455 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: which is, man, I have so much respect for how 456 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: you built this team like this. This is a blueprint 457 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: for how you build a football team at the line 458 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: of scrimmage both sides, an identity of physicality, It travels well, 459 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: it works in the postseason. He's just done a phenomenal job. 460 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 1: And one of those players that I want to give 461 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: him credit for is Kirby Joseph, who's got six picks now. 462 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: I was going back through my notes on him in 463 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: the twenty two class senior bowler five interceptions is last 464 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: year at Illinois. Mid field range, excellent anticipation, flashes, some 465 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: big hits will he does take some charges in the 466 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: run game. 467 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: It had a hamstring no. 468 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: Forty, so you don't have a forty time on him, 469 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: but six one two and three pounds, But buck to. 470 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: Put a bow on it. 471 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: Last thought, these guys that get their hands on the football, 472 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks that rack up sacks. You know, we can 473 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: talk about highweight, speed and length and all this stuff. 474 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: It's a production business man like this, this guy. These 475 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: guys that are ball magets in college end up being 476 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: ball magnets in the NFL. 477 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 4: Man, the production is everything and so much of what 478 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 4: we do with scouts. 479 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 3: We talk about the measurables in those things, but we 480 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 3: have to account for the production. It's hard to expect 481 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: someone to do something that they've never done previously. So 482 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: how can you expect someone to be a guy that 483 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 3: is an interception king if they weren't getting a bunch 484 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 3: of interceptions in college or in high school. There's something 485 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: about that, and Kirby Joseph is a nice example of 486 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: This dude is always around the ball. Particularly when every 487 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: this dude plays the Green Bay Packers. 488 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: He finds a way to make a play. It's just 489 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 4: something that is in his DNA. He does it year 490 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 4: in year out when he takes when he lies up 491 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 4: against the green and goal. 492 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: We'll see if these teams end up meeting down the 493 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: road in the playoffs as well. This feels like this 494 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: could be a there would be a three meeting affair 495 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: here between these teams. 496 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: But right now, Detroit Lions, they're better. 497 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: They're better in a lot of areas and it showed 498 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: on the field on the road in Lambeau. So big 499 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: win for the Detroit Lions. It's a big matchup in 500 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest with the Seattle Seahawks bringing in the 501 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams and all all bat leadoff on this one. 502 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: This is a game that the Rams won, big win 503 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: for them, twenty six to twenty. It is all bunched 504 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: up together there in the NFC West. Tough loss for 505 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. But my takeaway and Buck, I'll get 506 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: over to you on this is this defensive line. Jared 507 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: Verse I tweeted out, like this guy has a disdain 508 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: for anyone who attempts to block him. Like he plays 509 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: so violent and so angry, and I know he I 510 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: guess the reason he slipped was because he was a 511 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: little older in the draft. I didn't make sense to 512 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: me for what I thought he was and for where 513 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: he went. I thought they got tremendous value for the Rams, 514 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: but he knows how to rush. Fisk has been just 515 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: hell on wheels inside with what he's doing. And they've 516 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: got all first second year players on this defensive front 517 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: and they're just they're athletic, they're just nasty. Like that's 518 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: the biggest takeaway for me watching this group is there's 519 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: a violence to their pass rush plan, which I absolutely 520 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: love watching. 521 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 522 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 3: No, they have a blueprint in terms of what they're 523 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 3: looking for as a player and how it messages with 524 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 3: this game. And the Rams have done a really good 525 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: job of drafting over the last couple of years, particularly 526 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 3: when it comes to the middle to late stages of 527 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 3: the draft. But then when you talk about Jerry Buris 528 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: and Brendan Fist, like they've been able to know it 529 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: at the top and they have a clear picture of 530 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 3: what they want. 531 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 4: They put those guys in a position that is very 532 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 4: similar to. 533 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 3: The way that they were asked to play in college, 534 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: and you're seeing the same kind of production, the same 535 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 3: kind of results. This is an hardened team, a team 536 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 3: that is physical, and even though we don't expect them 537 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: to be a team that is going to be in 538 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: the postseason, they find their way out of a one 539 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: and four start to be right back in the conversation 540 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 3: as one of the top teams in that division. 541 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 5: And then on the flip side, by the way, I 542 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 5: love what they're doing. I love that is a tough 543 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 5: group there with la Man, like that is a gritty group. 544 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 5: I love what that defense is doing with Creshula, and 545 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 5: like they've grown this season, kind of grown together, first 546 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 5: year coordinator, a bunch of young players. Love that that's 547 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 5: all kind of moving together in the right direction now. 548 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 5: But I looked at Seattle here, looked at Jackson Smith 549 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 5: and Jigba in particular, who I think you know would 550 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 5: be now is going to be at some point best 551 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 5: slot player in the league with his explosiveness and ability 552 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 5: to make game changing plays. But there was a two 553 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 5: play sequence early in the game here for the Seahawks 554 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 5: that has kind of been a microcosm of this game 555 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 5: and of their season. So it's a seecond thirty one 556 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 5: great play design from Ryan Grubb. Okay, you got Jackson 557 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 5: Smith and jig but in motion back and forth across 558 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 5: the formation, dB McCulla ends up following him the whole way, 559 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 5: and once he settles in on the tight end side. 560 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 5: The tight end widens off the ball immediately, which grabs McCullough. 561 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 5: So there's like a switch off right, And so then 562 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 5: you've got JSN working on rose Boom. The linebacker JSN 563 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 5: also widens, is starting to run and set up a screen, right, 564 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 5: so he set up a wide receiver screen. They get 565 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 5: a couple of blockers in front because JSN and Widen 566 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 5: gives great leverage to get the block from the offensive 567 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 5: lineman on rose Boom, and then he turns into a 568 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 5: running back. The other two offensive linemen working on the 569 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 5: screen totally with don't block a soul. And you've got 570 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 5: JASN who breaks three tackles on his way to a 571 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 5: twenty yard game, including Kobe Turner, the defensive tackle who 572 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 5: Jaysn is able to shake off and continue running. It 573 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 5: shows his ability to you know, to kind of get 574 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 5: open and then make plays with the ball in his hand. 575 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 5: But then on the very next play he's open in 576 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 5: the middle of the field on third and nine and 577 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 5: is coming back towards the quarterback. Geno fires one to 578 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 5: him and he goes up with it like this to 579 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 5: try to catch it, as opposed to like this and 580 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 5: ball bounces out of his hands and right into the 581 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 5: hands of McCullough for one of his two interceptions on 582 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 5: the day. And it's like, you go for making a 583 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 5: great play and just don't quite put it all together. 584 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 5: On the next one, which kind of again encapsulates the 585 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 5: day for Seattle. Gino throws two red zone interceptions. They 586 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 5: have every opportunity to win the game and can't. 587 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: Get Yeah, and let's before we move on to the 588 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: next game here, let's give Cam Kitchens some love as well. 589 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: Think about all the rookies on the back end. Two 590 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: picks for Cam Kitchens coming out of Miami. A good 591 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: value pick there for Less Snead, who's just I mean, 592 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: he's done a phenomenal job of finding these young defensive 593 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: players over the last couple of years. Give him his 594 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: love there, give him his flowers. You see the pick 595 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: six there, you get two picks, one hundred and three 596 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: yards on the return, including the touchdown. Not a bad 597 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: day there for Cam Kitchens. So give him some love. 598 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: You talked about the Saquon run. What are the rest 599 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: of the game. Give me something else from that game. 600 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm gonna say this, and I'm gonna say 601 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 3: this as respectful as I can to the Philadelphia Eagles. 602 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 4: The Philadelphia Eagles have a roster that is super Bowl caliber. 603 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 4: I worry if their coach can get them over the threshold. 604 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 3: The game that I watched yesterday, the Philadelphia Eagles should 605 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 3: the Molly Watch to Jacksonville Jaguars based on the way 606 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: they had control of the game. You had through coaching 607 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 3: gaps and misgues and errors. They allowed the Jacksonville Jaguars. 608 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 4: To hang in the game and almost win the game. 609 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 3: Because Nick Sirianne is not like taking points when points 610 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: are available. He doesn't like field goals, he doesn't like 611 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 3: extra points, he doesn't like the gimmes. 612 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 4: That are there. And in a game where you feel 613 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 4: very early that you have controlled over the other team, 614 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 4: all they needed to do was stack points and the 615 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 4: Jacksonville Jaguars would not have been able to close the 616 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 4: gap nor made the game competitive. But because you won't 617 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 4: play by I was a conventional rules, he makes every 618 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 4: game more difficult for the Eagles than it needs to be. 619 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 4: What I worry about is not that the Eagles won't 620 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 4: get to the postseason, but I worry about a team 621 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 4: it has a potential to be able to be a 622 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 4: super Bowl team will not accomplish those goals because their 623 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 4: head coach will get in the way with his decision made. 624 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know I I I think again, you saw. 625 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 4: A little harsh. I was a little harsh. 626 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 6: Sorry, no, let it sink. 627 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 2: I mean it's been said a lot. A lot of 628 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 2: people have had that. 629 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to I've seen some the 630 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: tape of the game, but i haven't seen the You know, 631 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: when you're not watching the TV copy, you don't get 632 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: the context of the decisions that are taking place. 633 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 6: That's true. 634 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 5: And you know, I think again, this offense slowed down 635 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 5: a little bit as AJ Brown went out, Just as 636 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 5: we talked about last week. They really found rhythm again 637 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 5: when he was back in the lineup and then he 638 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 5: goes down and you know, he kind of becomes you know, Thankfully, 639 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 5: they had DeVante Smith make one of the most incredible 640 00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 5: I mean, like the Eagles made two of the most 641 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 5: incredible plays offensively we've seen all season in this game 642 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 5: with the Saquon run and then that DeVante Smith catch 643 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 5: at the end was so powerful. But the AJ Brown 644 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 5: absence and how long he's going to be out again? 645 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 5: I think is something that you got to watch for 646 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 5: long term viability of offensive success here for Billy. 647 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just say a couple of things. Number One, 648 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: there's a run I watched all Saquon's explosives, which are 649 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: incredible watching. 650 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: Him run the ball. 651 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: But Davante Smith's in there digging out second level defenders 652 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: in the run game. So that's usually that's a good 653 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: sign for kind of the culture of your offense that 654 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: you've got your receivers doing that type of dirty work 655 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: and not the biggest receiver in the world. And Devonte 656 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: Smith so that was good to see. And Josh Sweat 657 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: had a good game, couple of sacks, he rushed well. 658 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: And you know, if we're going to go through buck 659 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: and if we assume there's such thing as a roster realtor, 660 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: should we put a forced sales sign on the roster 661 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: of the Jags right now and say, come on, bring 662 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: you best and final offers here For some of these guys, I. 663 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: Just don't know what you would sell off. I don't 664 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: know who you would sell off, because the guys that 665 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 3: you would sell off are already either gone or they're hurt. 666 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: Jam Robinson was traded away Christian Kirk is hurt, like, 667 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 3: I don't know who you would go and you would 668 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: go and get I would say the thing that will 669 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 3: hurt the jacksonanth Jaguars when they go back and they 670 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 3: look at this season, it would just be a season. 671 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 4: Of lost opportunities. 672 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 3: Five games where you've lost by five points or fewer 673 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: games in which you've had the ball in the hands 674 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,239 Speaker 3: of your best player, Trevor Lawrence, and the ball has 675 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 3: not gone the way that it's supposed to go in 676 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 3: terms of like getting the ball to the right playmaker, 677 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: making the play that you want to see. We just 678 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 3: haven't seen those things from him. And it's not from 679 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 3: like a fire of trying. Just hasn't been able to 680 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 3: execute in those moments. And you would like to see 681 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 3: that from your franchise quarterback. But it's not just him, 682 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: it's a defense. They gave up two touchdowns on third 683 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: and forever situations. Taekwon Barkley scores on a third and 684 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: nineteen on a run, and then the cass that we 685 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 3: saw Devanci Smith make a great catch. That was another 686 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 3: third and seventeen situation where they let the ball go 687 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 3: over the top. You know, it's just a combination of everything, 688 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 3: like his players, coaching, his execution is everybody, and so 689 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 3: everybody takes a hand in it when your team is 690 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 3: two and seven. 691 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a fair point there with Jags. We'll 692 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: see what happens. Here is the deadline is less twenty 693 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: four hours away. Here, let's get through a couple more 694 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: games here quickly. Miami Buffalo. I watched to a Rhett 695 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: and I thought he looked like to him, I didn't 696 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: see any rust with him coming back twenty seven points. 697 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: It looks completely different, you know, over the last few 698 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: weeks with him back in the lineup. So I was 699 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: I was honed in on that one. I want to say, Okay, 700 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: he's going upgainst Buffalo is playing really really well to 701 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: him make a difference, And I thought he did, and 702 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: they're right there to the end and took a ridiculous 703 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: field goal to beat him. 704 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 6: I agree. 705 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 5: The sixty yarder there from Bass after he had missed 706 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 5: a little bit in that game, I think was important. 707 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 5: But again I think it comes down to me like 708 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 5: they are so much more effective in the run game 709 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 5: right with two tungue of I looa, which makes you 710 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 5: think DJ about all and Bucky about all that goes 711 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 5: through to a in this Like, it's not just trying 712 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 5: to activate Tyreek Hill explosively down the field, They're Jalen 713 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 5: Waddle down the field. 714 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 4: Like. 715 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 5: That's not the only impact that Tua has on this offense. 716 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 5: It's the way in which they can operate the run 717 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 5: game with him in there as well, with the you know, 718 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 5: his ability to be cerebral in this Mike McDaniels system. 719 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 5: So I think, I think you're going to see some 720 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 5: good ball here from the Miami Dolphins down the stretch, 721 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 5: and yeah, maybe they end up making a run at 722 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 5: this thing in a wildcard race. Because Buck, the Buffalo 723 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 5: Bills are winning this thing and the AFC is going 724 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 5: away right now with a four game lead. 725 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: I think they are. And I'll say this with the 726 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills. When I look at the Buffalo Bills, and 727 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 3: this last game was an exception to the rule. They've 728 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: been pounding people to sleep in terms of like beating 729 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 3: them by significant margins. 730 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 4: This game was much tighter than we expected. But the 731 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 4: Bills keep winning. 732 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 3: And you look up and the Bills are it's in 733 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 3: the seven to two, and they a team that has 734 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: a superhero quarterback. They play really good defense, and they're 735 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 3: running the football, and those things are a recipe that 736 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: you need to make a deep run in the postseason. 737 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 3: Might not get them there, but depending on the superhero 738 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 3: powers of Josh Allen, it might. 739 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 4: Be able to do it. This is a team that 740 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 4: subtracted some of their pieces in the offseason and they 741 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 4: are a much better team because of it. Addition by 742 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 4: subtraction has worked for the Buffalo Bills. 743 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you said you got to take it 744 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: one game at a time, but if I'm in the 745 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills personnel department, We're already breaking down Kansas City, Baltimore. 746 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: Let's start. 747 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: Let's start worrying about the teams we're gonna have to 748 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: deal with in the postseason. Pittsburgh, whoever else wants to 749 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: come to that party, but let's start doing some of 750 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: that work because you are going to roll through your 751 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: division and be a playoff team. And this is a 752 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: game with the Baltimore Ravens the Denver Broncos. Baltimore Ravens 753 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: defense is not what it's been the last few years, 754 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: but some encouraging signs in this one, holding bon Knicks 755 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: in that Denver offense to ten points and offensively for 756 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens buck not a surprise. Usual suspects here. 757 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson outstanding. Jay Flowers continues to have an impressive 758 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: sophomore campaign as well. 759 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, this is this is this is something they 760 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 4: gets you, right. 761 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 3: So Derrick Henry goes over a thousand yards. We're looking 762 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 3: at the combination of Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson. 763 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 4: They can run the ball. They can do whatever they 764 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 4: want to do in the. 765 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 3: Run game, whether it's straight traditional downhill runs, whether it's 766 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 3: Reid option stuff with Lamar Jackson pulling, they can do 767 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: all of that. Now, they've a similar cast on the 768 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 3: outside that makes you pay for trying to over commit 769 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 3: to the run. We talk about Zay Flowers and what 770 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 3: he is able to do. We can talk about what 771 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 3: Deante Johnson will give them, Isaiah Likely and Mark Andrews offensively. 772 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 3: This team is a juggernaut that no one wants to face. 773 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 3: It's the defense that will determine how far this team 774 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 3: goes in the postseason. 775 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they were better certainly this week than they've 776 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 5: been previously. You know, they've been giving up some points, 777 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 5: you know, for sure, comparatively speaking to what we've expected 778 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 5: from them over the course of the line couple of years. 779 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 5: But like, I couldn't watch this game and not just 780 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,479 Speaker 5: be enamored with the juice that Jay Flowers gives his team, 781 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 5: his explosiveness, and like the as fast as he looks 782 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 5: on the field, it's like he's in a different league 783 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 5: with the ball in his hands. It's it's been really 784 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 5: really kind of special to see because there was a 785 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 5: time like early on in the year, you know, I 786 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 5: wasn't getting as much targets his way. You know, Rashad 787 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 5: Bateman has become a bigger piece of the offense. Issadia 788 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 5: likely was really getting a ton of targets early on. 789 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 5: With Zay has really kind of come on here as 790 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 5: of late, and I'm fired up to see what he's 791 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 5: going to bring to this thing as the Ravens really 792 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 5: make this playoff push here, I'll. 793 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 2: Tell you what. 794 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: We are only a few weeks away, guys from the Harbowl. 795 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: It is around Thanksgiving time. I believe it's a Monday 796 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: nighter at sofi In. They both are kind of both 797 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: teams playing well right now. I'm looking forward to that 798 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: one that is going to be a big time clash 799 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: as the Baltimore Ravens with a big win over the 800 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos forty one to ten. All right, this is 801 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: a this is a game that I would say, maybe 802 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 1: before the season started, we think we'd be talking about 803 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: right at the very top of the broadcast. You'd have 804 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys coming off all these twelve win seasons, 805 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: all the excitement brewing. You've got Kirk Cousins and Atlanta, 806 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: a team that was just a quarterback away, and here 807 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: we are in a game the Falcons, one where the 808 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: Falcons are still kind of what we hope they would be, 809 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys they're a wreck. 810 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 2: They're absolutely a wreck. And now have an injured quarterback. 811 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, and now sounds like he's gonna miss multiple weeks. 812 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 5: So just kind of I mean, this feels like the 813 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 5: thing that's going to make the pot boil over for Dallas. 814 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 5: Like you could sense the frustration building to a fever pitch, 815 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 5: you know in this game. 816 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 6: I mean Mike McCarthy went, you. 817 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 5: Know, absolutely haywire on a surface tablet on the sideline. 818 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 5: You know, you got Ceedee Lambs banged up on you know, 819 00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 5: in a couple of times, but stays in the game, 820 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 5: tries to make it a game late. I mean, there's 821 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 5: just too many times really on both sides of the ball, 822 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 5: especially on defense though in this game where you just 823 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 5: felt like they didn't know exactly what they were supposed 824 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 5: to be doing with what they wanted to be doing. 825 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 5: On a couple of those plays where the Falcons got 826 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 5: to the edge, especially late, it was that one with 827 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 5: Treymond Diggs kind of trailing the play. Looks like he's 828 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 5: talking back and forth, you know, I get it, like 829 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 5: there's some wrinkles the teams are gonna throw in at 830 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 5: you each and every week that are gonna make you 831 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 5: kind of have to sip through the mess to figure 832 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 5: things out. But man, overall, this just this just feels 833 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 5: like a team that's disjointed in a lot of different ways. Obviously, 834 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 5: the run game is still an issue. Obviously there's still 835 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 5: a deficiency you know, on the interior stopping the run. 836 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 6: On the defensive side of the ball. 837 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 5: I just this just kind of more and more feels 838 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 5: like a lost season here in Dallas, especially now with 839 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 5: the DAC news. 840 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 1: I was going to try and be positive on the Cowboys, 841 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, what I'm gonna I didn't obviously 842 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: didn't see the game on TV doing the charge game, 843 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: but I'm look at this box score. I'm going to 844 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: find a positive nugget in there, and then not a 845 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: saucy nug just a positive nug and then I'm gonna 846 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: go watch that art portion of the game, watch a cutup, 847 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna bring some positivity. So I looked at it, said, man, 848 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: the Cowboys actually ran the ball, okay in this game. 849 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: I've been very critical about their run game and the 850 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: lack of investment back. So let's watch these runs. What 851 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: do I see in the runs? I say, well, the 852 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: first two that popped were actually swing passes that were 853 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage. 854 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 2: That get cast, and. 855 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: Then it was a Dak Prescott scramble. Then it was 856 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: a Ceedee Lamb jet suite. So I'm like, no, they 857 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 1: still have no traditional run game. So I tried Cowboy 858 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: fans to be positive. I was looking for positivity and 859 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: even that did not work. But a good win for 860 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. Let's get on to the next game here. 861 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: It was the night game, Sunday Night or Indy and Minnesota. 862 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: Anything jump out to you in that one run. 863 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 5: Well, the Minnesota Vikings defense is back to being disruptive. 864 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 5: I think is one of the one of the biggest 865 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 5: things you can say. I mean, like Joe Flacco made 866 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 5: the Colts offense competent right when he was in there 867 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 5: for those couple of games. While Anthony Richardson was heard, 868 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 5: he comes back in and man, they just they struggled. 869 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 6: They struggled up front dealing with the rush. 870 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 5: Jonathan Garnard a couple of sacks. I mean, that's the 871 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 5: other thing, like, you know, a quarterback center exchange. I 872 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 5: don't even know if you could put that on the 873 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 5: quarterback DJ you could probably be the expert on that 874 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 5: one there. It just looked like Jonathan Taylor just kind 875 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 5: of let that one go and this is obviously a 876 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 5: throw you can't have. Look at Josh Doallins's frustration after that. 877 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 5: I just think everything went wrong for this offense and 878 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 5: they found zero rhythm and there was a lot that 879 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 5: Minnesota is thrown at you on any given play in 880 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 5: any given series. And then when you've got elite pass 881 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 5: rushers like they do in Jonathan Garnard and company, get 882 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 5: Dallas Turner involved a little bit there, to their first 883 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 5: round draft pick, and man, you're really difficult to deal with. 884 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: Back there, I was thinking of this connection, kind of 885 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: a random connection with Sam Darnold, and I was thinking of, Okay, look, 886 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: he's very accurate, you know from that standpoint in this 887 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: ballgame has a bunch of touchdowns, but then also as 888 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: the turnovers to go along with it, and I thought, 889 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, this kind of reminds me of like young 890 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, Like when Stafford in those early years with 891 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 1: Detroit where you'd see games like this one and you know, 892 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: maybe win, maybe lose, but you're like, man, he's so accurate. 893 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: He's got excellent arm talent, he's a good athlete, he 894 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: can make big time, big time throws. 895 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 2: But there's just a couple you'd like to have back. 896 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 2: And I thought, okay, well, Sam, you know, he's been 897 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,479 Speaker 2: in the league for a while. 898 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 1: Stafford. I'm compared him to a young Stafford. But really 899 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: do we you know, if we look at just Sam 900 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 1: being around competency in terms of everything around in play caller, 901 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: the players, the whole setup, the organization, all those things 902 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 1: that we should grade Sam as a young starter, we 903 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't grade him as this veteran who's you know, on 904 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: is what is his third team? Now it should be 905 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: more of, hey, this is there's a lot of good 906 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: to take out of what Sam Donold's doing every week. 907 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 6: It's a great point. 908 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 5: And I mean, if you're really just counting the seasons 909 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 5: for the you know, the teams that he's actually just 910 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 5: started for, this is kind of like the rookie year 911 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 5: right in terms of if you want to judge on competency, 912 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,399 Speaker 5: right on players around him, on playmakers around him, having 913 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 5: the whole foundation. When we talk about with the three p's, 914 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 5: I don't know you can say that with the Jets. 915 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 5: I certainly don't think you could have said that with 916 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 5: his time with the Carolina Panthers, and then now you know, 917 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 5: he didn't really play at all with the San Francisco 918 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 5: forty nine ers. He kind of throw that out there, 919 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 5: and this is the most consistent time period in which 920 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 5: he's had that kind of support system around him. So 921 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 5: we're still just looking, you know, at eight games here 922 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 5: and how he's performing those eight games have been pretty 923 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 5: dang good. 924 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no question, all positive for me as well 925 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: on what Sam Donald was doing and if I can 926 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: sitting there at six and two next game, as we 927 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: ripped through him here Chicago and Arizona Chicago. Man, as 928 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of negativity coming out after that game. 929 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: Caleb has not played well a couple of weeks in 930 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: a row. If we were going to spin it to 931 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: the positive side of the thing of things, I mean, 932 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: I was there in Arizona just a few weeks ago, 933 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: and this team there was I would say, anks in 934 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: the building a little bit of like. 935 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 2: Oh man, you know, what is this year going to 936 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 2: look like? And who are we? What are we searching for? 937 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 2: Your idea entity? 938 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden you look up and 939 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are five and four, sitting right at the 940 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,959 Speaker 1: top of the division, filing really good about things. 941 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, one of the things that I 942 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 5: didn't necessarily have on the old Bingo card was the 943 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 5: presence of a three headed monster at running back. That's 944 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 5: starting to come to fruition here. Obviously, Trey Benson. We expected, 945 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 5: you know, as the first running back off the board, 946 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 5: to be one of those guys to contribute. He's been 947 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 5: really kind of slow to find his role, but he Man, 948 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 5: it got us some flashes. Now in addition to what 949 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 5: James Connor is already giving you is that physical kind 950 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,919 Speaker 5: of workhorse back and then they get like the little 951 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 5: spark plug and Amari de Mercado every now and then 952 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 5: who rips off the end of half touchdown? 953 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 6: And again, I guess, you know, credit to. 954 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 5: Matt Eberfluss for taking the blame on that said he 955 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 5: was calling a you know, a pass pressure, didn't expect 956 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,919 Speaker 5: to run and had his defense in a bad spot. 957 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 5: But talking about two weeks in a row now where 958 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 5: that Chicago Bears defense is given up an end of 959 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 5: half or end of game touchdown on you know something 960 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 5: where they should just be going to the half, going 961 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,919 Speaker 5: to the break, you know, with no harm, no foul. 962 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 5: And again it's a big time mom minim shift and 963 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 5: you can almost sense it, you know for that team, 964 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,959 Speaker 5: you're like you were going into the half as this again, 965 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 5: here we go again, that sort of thing. And you know, 966 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 5: I'm sure you've seen DJ the DJ more play that 967 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 5: everyone's talking about. Yeah, a couple of things on that right, 968 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 5: you'd like to stay in bounce, right, you like to 969 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 5: not just run out of bounds on the screen eleven 970 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 5: guys on the field, I mean, yes, he does in 971 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 5: fact finish, the play is still happening, and he is 972 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 5: already sitting down on the bench, on the bench which is. 973 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 6: Never seen anything like that before. But two things. He 974 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 6: did kind of look like he got. 975 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 5: A little nicked up on the play, like he kind 976 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 5: of round rolled his ankle a little bit. Plus he 977 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 5: was out of bounds and could not have rejoined the 978 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 5: play effectively. Right, once you're already out of bound, you 979 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 5: can come back and be the first guy in unless 980 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 5: you totally re establish right, but. 981 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: Real quick on that, let me put a bow on that. 982 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: The only thing is yes, could he tell the ball? No, 983 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: he'ld be the first touch the ball. But if I'm 984 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: a defensive back and he and there's another human being 985 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: with another team's jersey on standing on the field, I 986 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: have to cover him. 987 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 2: Like that's just now. 988 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna did he step on the line as yet, 989 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: but I have to account for him. That's at least 990 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: one defender that you take away just by merely standing. 991 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: Even if you were sitting on the field, within the 992 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: field to play, you would have a defender. Right, I've 993 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: yet to see a defender who will go sit next 994 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: to somebody on the bench. That's not going to happen. 995 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 1: They are not going to respect you. It's the target 996 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 1: life and you're sitting on the bench. So that's where 997 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: that's that's it on that. When I've I've been critical 998 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 1: Dj Moore in the Houston game. I thought his body 999 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: language was terrible in that game. Earlier this year, I 1000 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: didn't like the way he showed up his quarterback. So 1001 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 1: this is not something that's new, and I think that's 1002 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: probably why it's a bigger deal. 1003 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 2: Hoham. 1004 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels, just another consistent performance for Washington as they 1005 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: take care of the New York Giants fifteen to twenty two, 1006 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns. It's it's just the game seems slow. 1007 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 1: I don't know how else to say it. That's that's 1008 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 1: the my takeaway there. 1009 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 5: I wouldn't disagree. I mean it just everything comes to 1010 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 5: him very naturally, like you know in this throw. I 1011 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 5: just I love the Terry McLaurin again, is a big 1012 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 5: piece of this offense. I felt like he's disappeared for 1013 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 5: the last couple of years, probably not all of his doing, 1014 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 5: with some of the quarterback inconsistencies that they've had there. 1015 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 6: You know, they do this without Brian Robinson too. 1016 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 5: You're able to sit him and get him an extra 1017 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 5: week to kind of continue to get healthy. Is that 1018 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 5: run game, you know, has been a big piece of 1019 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 5: it too, and not just you know, Daniels on the ground, 1020 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 5: but having that physical presence with Brian Robinson and then 1021 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 5: you know, being able to take care of business without it, 1022 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 5: you know, defensively, I think they're playing well. This just 1023 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 5: become you know, you want to talk about organizational shifts 1024 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 5: like this is this is the biggest turnaround that we've 1025 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 5: seen in the NFL from top to bottom, right, ownership change, 1026 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 5: personnel change, right. Adam Peters has come in and done 1027 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 5: a phenomenal job, better than I think we even thought, 1028 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 5: you know, coming out of the draft. 1029 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 6: And we're like, man, this offensive line is still going 1030 00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 6: to be a little but they figured out a way 1031 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 6: to get some good play out of that group. 1032 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 5: Dan Quinn has done a phenomenal job at the head 1033 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 5: coaching spot. Like just all around, top to bottom, this 1034 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 5: has become a well run organization. 1035 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's different than a lot of these turnover 1036 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: turnarounds because I think of one of the Browns were 1037 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: just terrible forever and then that that when Baker kind 1038 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: of got him back into the playoffs that first time. 1039 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: You looked around and it was, you know, number one 1040 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: overall picks, first round picks all over the field like 1041 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett and the run game with Chubb and all 1042 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: these you know, all these different stars. I feel like, 1043 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: talent wise, they're not anywhere near where they're going to 1044 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 1: be two three years from now in Washington. They're only 1045 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: going to get better with what they put around Jayden Daniels, 1046 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: and they've proven themselves to be excellent coaches. Can I 1047 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: give you one another saucing nug hare real quick? I 1048 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 1: did see a saucing nug and the research packet, but 1049 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: it was talking about the coaches of all the new 1050 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: coaches from this last cycle. Uh, the ones that had 1051 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: previous head coaching experience, not not interim head coaches, but 1052 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: previous head coaching experience are the ones who are finding 1053 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: a lot of success. And that is where dan Quinn 1054 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: would find himself. Jim Harbaugh obviously another one who's found 1055 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: tremendous success in his second stop, in his yeah, second 1056 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 1: NFL stop. 1057 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 2: What there was one other one? You remember who it is. 1058 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go to the research packet on 1059 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 1: that if you're gonna use a saucy nug, you. 1060 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 4: Have to know it is. 1061 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 2: Morris. Raheem. Morris is the third one. 1062 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 6: Thank you Flkins. 1063 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,839 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yeah, there you go. It's a still 1064 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 2: a saucy nug. Though I like that nug it is, 1065 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 2: it is not as much. 1066 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 5: You can't say as much for the Dallas Cowboys and 1067 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy on head coaching stop number two and perhaps. 1068 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 1: So he wasn't hired in this last cycle. So that's 1069 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 1: why not in a lot of cycle. It's still a 1070 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: saucy nug. You tried to You tried to sauce that 1071 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 1: nug and you couldn't do it. Let's go to the 1072 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: next one here, New England, Tennessee. 1073 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:50,839 Speaker 4: Uh. 1074 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 5: Look, I mean the play that Drake made, made to 1075 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 5: send that thing to overtime is what again gives you 1076 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 5: hope and optimism moving forward. But then you still get 1077 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 5: the realization that this is a player that's still got 1078 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,760 Speaker 5: a long way to go, right with the unfortunate decision 1079 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 5: he makes to throw the interception, you know, following that, 1080 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 5: So I think again I come away still feeling encouraged 1081 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 5: with what the Patriots can find with Drake May, there's 1082 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 5: still a lot more work to be done to continue 1083 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 5: to bolster that roster around him, especially those guys in 1084 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 5: front of him. You know, the the New England Patriots 1085 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 5: quarterbacks are one of the most frequently hit and pressured 1086 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 5: in the league, and obviously the guys in front are 1087 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 5: a big piece of that. Getting the ball out is 1088 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 5: another piece too that we can get into. But overall, 1089 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 5: congratulations to the Titans are finding a way to win 1090 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 5: a game. But I think both these both these franchises 1091 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 5: still have a long way to go. 1092 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,720 Speaker 1: I will say, talking about Drake May and New England, 1093 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 1: if this was you know, a mile, which is four 1094 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 1: trips around the track, I would say Drake May is 1095 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: a lot closer to getting to the finish line than 1096 00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 1: the New England. 1097 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 2: Patriots supporting group is. 1098 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: To get into the finish line, they need to catch 1099 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 1: up on the lead lap I think he is. I 1100 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: think I think he is far exceeding what's around him, 1101 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, where whereas a lot of times you're like, okay, 1102 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: we got we got a lot of pieces in here, 1103 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: and it's just we got to be patient with the 1104 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: quarterbacks so he can catch up to the team forget 1105 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 1: that New England. The rest of the team's got to 1106 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 1: catch up to him. He's I think his development is 1107 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 1: off to a really strong start. He had two scrambles 1108 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 1: third and sixteen, third and six that he converted over 1109 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,760 Speaker 1: nine yards rushing. I mean, he was He was excellent 1110 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 1: with his legs making plays and made some big time 1111 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: throws and you're gonna have to live with some of 1112 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: the you know, some of the rookie mistakes that come 1113 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: along with that. But I think he's ahead of schedule. 1114 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: I think the rest of the group around him is 1115 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: behind schedule, so that'll be something to keep an eye on. 1116 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons, by the way, I'm excited to see him 1117 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,280 Speaker 1: in person again next week. He's one of my favorite 1118 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: players to watch. He was awesome in this game. He 1119 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: had nine pressures. All right, let's let's get to the game. 1120 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 1: Game I was at, which is the Chargers and the Browns. 1121 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: First thought on that one, gosh, you know, as someone 1122 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: who calls the games, I hope the Chargers can hold 1123 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: on to Jesse Minner as long as they can. 1124 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if they're going to be able to. 1125 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,800 Speaker 2: He is a good football coach. 1126 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: And people keep asking me, like, this is number one 1127 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: scoring defense in the NFL. 1128 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 2: What is it about it? 1129 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 4: Why is it so great? 1130 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, it's pretty simple. They don't bust 1131 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: coverages and they don't miss tackles, and they play hard 1132 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: and that's that's kind of it. They're playing with two 1133 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 1: fifth round rookie corners. Tar Heek Still had an interception 1134 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 1: and a tip that led to another interception. Cam Hart 1135 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 1: is playing great on the other side. These guys have 1136 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,919 Speaker 1: been forced into action due to injuries. Tu Ley Twoy 1137 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: Polo two. You know as a young player, he had 1138 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: the two and a half sacks in this game. He 1139 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: was excellent. The defense is very well coached and is 1140 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: a good unit. And then offensively RTT we've talked about 1141 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 1: who's going to kind of emerge as Herbert's guy all 1142 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: these new pieces. Quentin Johnston year two, don't give up 1143 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: on him. He has one hundred yard game, a big 1144 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 1: sixty six yard touchdown on a blown coverage by Denzel Award. 1145 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,439 Speaker 1: And then McConkey is just getting better and better every 1146 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: week and tried to find another comp form because I 1147 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 1: know what the criticism is coming with it. 1148 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 2: He looks just like Julian Edelman. I don't know how. 1149 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how to not say it. I can't 1150 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: unsee it when I see him out there, just how 1151 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 1: quick he is and his transition once he catches the 1152 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: ball to get up the field, something that Edelman was 1153 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,240 Speaker 1: so good at. And Herbert's got a lot of confidence 1154 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 1: in that young dude, you know, just. 1155 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,399 Speaker 5: Not quite as thick as Edelman was, right, Like, that's 1156 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 5: the only. 1157 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 6: Like just to know. 1158 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 2: But when you stand next to him, he's he's not heiny, 1159 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 2: He's not. 1160 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 4: He's not. 1161 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 6: I agree with you on that. 1162 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, But Edelman was so compact, and I mean, yeah, 1163 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,320 Speaker 5: I think he I think that's a great comp I 1164 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 5: mean the way that he works in the in you know, 1165 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 5: in some of those you know, those option routes and 1166 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 5: finding finding spots to get open. I think Lad McConkie's 1167 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 5: going to be a terrific player, certainly in this league. 1168 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 5: And then yeah, I to go back to your point 1169 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 5: on Jesse Mentor. I remember meeting him, you know, at 1170 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,359 Speaker 5: the Rose Bowl last year and just talked to him 1171 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 5: about his defense and just had such a clarity of thought, 1172 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 5: right and a clarity of you know, of how he 1173 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 5: wanted his guys to execute, Like there was just such 1174 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 5: a confidence in the scheme and they're so well coached, right, 1175 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,800 Speaker 5: and he's got wrinkles, sure, but I mean you you 1176 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 5: nailed it right. They know where they're supposed to be 1177 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 5: and they make the plays that are there for them 1178 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 5: to make, and that I guess more than half. 1179 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 1: The battle at this point. You don't miss a ton 1180 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,959 Speaker 1: of tackles. There no guys running on and off the field. 1181 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: There's no I didn't get the call like, it's just 1182 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 1: very calm, and I think that's a coaching thing. 1183 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 5: I also feel like with the Chargers that this was 1184 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,319 Speaker 5: a defense we talked about a lot. DJ is having 1185 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 5: star power right with Joey Bosa, with Khalil Mack, with 1186 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 5: Derwam James when Matt Yeah, and now it's like they're 1187 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 5: more valuable as to some of all the parts than 1188 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 5: just star power here and star power there. 1189 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 6: And I think that says a lot too. 1190 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 1: Yep, plan as one, no question, all right, this was 1191 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: a fun episode today covered a lot of ground. Had 1192 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: some shake up there in the coaching department. Glad we 1193 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: got to hit on that as well as cover a 1194 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,959 Speaker 1: bunch of these games. We'll be back tomorrow. Rookie Draft 1195 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 1: coming your way. We appreciate you, we'll see you next time. 1196 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 1: Right here on, move the sticks, m