WEBVTT - Netflix Animation! 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:04.840 Warning, Today's episode contains spoilers for a bunch of animated 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:08.560 shows on Netflix. But it's really not that big deal, 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:11.720 but we will spoil them slightly, mate. 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:12.119 So you warned. 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:28.840 Hello. 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:31.640 My name is Jason Concepcion. 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.440 And I'm Rosy Nike and welcome back to x ray Vision. 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:38.640 The podcast where we dive deep to your favorite shows, movies, 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:41.199 comics and pop culture. We're coming to you from My 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.920 Heart podcast, where we're bringing you to episodes a week 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:44.400 every Tuesday. 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:50.839 Anthors in today's Animation Month episode. In the previously on, 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.320 we're gonna be talking about the return of the BoJack 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:54.480 Horseman Team. 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:59.000 Oh, everybody's favorite depressed actor horse. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.320 You know the best. He changed the game for Netflix. 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.120 He's going to be coming up a lot today and 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:05.240 they are the team is coming back with a new 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:06.559 animation series. 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:06.839 There. 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:10.160 Also, we're going to our Edward and Bella are getting 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.920 the animation treatment that is going to be extremely cursed. 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.600 I'll tell you all about Midnight Sun and so are 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:18.520 the Ghostbusters, which I think for people mine and Jason's 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:23.840 age is probably a delight because our real Ghostbusters was 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:25.800 like a big thing when we were kids. We love 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:29.399 the Ghostbusters cartoon and in the airlock, we are going 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:32.520 to be talking about what we watch on Netflix and 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:36.600 how Netflix animation offerings are kind of changing the game, 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.560 or looking at the impact of some of our favorites 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.800 and how they've shaped what Netflix is doing. And in 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.760 Who's Who, we're gonna give our rapid fire recommendations for 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.440 what Netflix animation shows you should be watching. 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:56.120 Up next news First up, BoJack Horseman team of Rafael, 0:01:56.160 --> 0:02:02.200 Bob Blacksburg, Tornante Company, Shadow Machine, etc. Reunite for Netflix 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.960 animated series Long Story Short, which is slated debut in 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:11.480 twenty twenty five. The BoJack team has a new project. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:16.359 Yeah, it's about a family and kind of the shared 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:19.400 history of a family over a long time, So that 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:23.359 should be interesting, lots of depressing and I'm sure existential 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.720 mining to be done from that. I'm very happy that 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.519 Lisa Haniwal is the superviaing producer and she's going to 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.400 design the original art for the series. She's an original 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:37.440 BoJack person who also did Tukarimberti, which was completely brilliant, 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.400 And Yeah, I think this is going to be great, 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:42.320 and I think BoJack is one of those shows that 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.360 changed the game for adult animation changed the game for 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:49.200 Netflix and the way they approached animation, especially since it 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.799 was nominated for Emmy's etc. And I think it made 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.360 them realize there's a space for that with animation. So yeah, 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.679 I'm excited. I think it will probably be very good. 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:58.040 So that's another one for next year. 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:03.520 Next up. I've been watching Terminator zero for the past 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:05.800 couple of days on Netflix, but many have been watching 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:07.680 it for much longer. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.560 Because I'm not Netflix on Netflix. 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:19.520 Because all a significant amount of Netflix's animation offerings that 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:23.519 are coming up in the future have been leaked online. 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:30.359 That's pretty including upcoming seasons of Arcane out there, a 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:32.560 Terminator zero season. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:32.920 And more. 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:37.320 This is crazy, Yeah, Randmahalff, which I'm like, extremely excited 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.720 for another remake of a classic Rumika taka Ashi anime. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.960 I have not pirated it obviously, not even with any 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.240 hypothetical Say guys, I really didn't do it. This was 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:50.480 a bad leak, dand Dan, which is a huge get 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.960 for Netflix. The fact that leaked. Also the Plankton movie 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.680 that's coming up, which is really wild because I feel like, 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.440 did we even know that was happening so soon after 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:04.720 the Sandy Cheeks movie. Yeah, Netflix basically told Variety and 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:08.880 I quote one of our production partners has been compromised 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:12.440 and footage from several of our titles has unfortunately leaked online. 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.000 My understanding was it was a pretty bad leak, especially 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:21.080 Arcane season two. Obviously, that's huge, That's probably one of 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:25.440 the biggest releases Netflix has left. So yeah, not great stuff, 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:30.960 very dramatic, and it does. Interestingly, they're saying that the 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:34.479 partner in question is like a localization service provider. 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.680 Yeah, they're They're a company that does the subtitles for me. 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:42.680 Yeah, and make sure that they feel like you're reading 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:46.160 something that makes sense rather than just kind of a 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:50.640 basic translation. But yeah, you know, hard to feel bad 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.000 for corporations, but I do feel bad for all the 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.120 people who worked on these shows and if that is 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.160 impacting them. But now terminated zeros out there. People seem 0:04:58.200 --> 0:04:59.920 to be watching it. We're gonna be talking about it, 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:04.000 so obviously has not impacted the hype or the release 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:04.640 that much. 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:09.680 My friend Zach Tuscani, currently a touring comedian, used to 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:13.600 do a very similar job doing the subtitles for television 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:17.400 at a similar company out in the VA and but 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.640 it was mostly just watching a lot of like Judge, Judy. 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:25.240 Wild, right, it's you got to think about, like everyone 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.640 gets subtitles. We were talking about this the other day 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.680 because you know, comic book localization is also a thing 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.880 where you release comics in different countries, and it's just 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:38.919 so interesting to think about. For example, you know, in Europe, 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:44.040 the Scrooge McDuck comics are still some of the biggest 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.560 comics in the world, and they are all translated into 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.919 different languages. So like, whose job is it to localize 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:54.280 Scrooge McDuck because that is like so specific. But you 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.960 know in like Holland, Scrooge McDuck is selling like hundreds 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.360 of thousands of copies a month, like it it's just 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:04.680 like wild. But yeah, Judge Judy, Scrooge McDuck, you could 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:08.560 be localizing these things too if you are bilingual, the 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:12.160 dreams you could achieve. Oh Baby, next. 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:16.040 Time Midnight Sun, not Midnight Suns. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:20.600 Not Marvels Midnight Son, not Marvels Midnight Suns, but Twilight 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:21.799 Midnight Sun. 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.080 Baby I'm sorry. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.080 Has landed at netflick. 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:30.159 Okay. Twilight Midnight Son is a twenty twenty book that 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:35.520 Stephanie Meyer wrote. Twilight author Stephanie Meyer released this novel 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:39.640 in twenty twenty, and it retells Twilight from Edward's perspective. Now, 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.440 this is not to be confused with. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:46.360 The book from about returning to her fanfic roots. 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.359 Exactly this, And this is not to be confused with 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.400 the hilarious book that she released like ten years before 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.920 where she just switched the genders of the characters and 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:59.640 called the male character Beaumont Color. It was just ridiculous, 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.520 or Beaumont the other way around, but it was just 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:04.840 very silly. No, this is Midnight Sun, which is a 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:09.960 huge tome and it tells twilight from Edward's perspective. But 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:12.720 if you were on the internet when this book came 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:16.280 out in twenty twenty, which obviously also collided with Lockdown, 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.320 you will likely have seen some of the most unhinged 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:24.160 pages from this book because Edward is an insane, sociopath 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.600 one hundred year old vampire. So one of the most 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:30.880 famous scenes from this book is that when he first 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.440 sees Bella in the very famous scene that I'm sure 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.400 you've seen memed from the movies where he covers his 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.400 nose and she thinks it's because she smells, but it's 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.440 because she smells delicious. The book has like a ten 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:47.800 page description of just like him committing a massacre in 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.680 the classroom, of all the people he would kill so 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.440 that he could get to Bella to drink her blood. 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:57.800 It's absolutely deranged. Stephanie Meyer is a producer, and if 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.760 you've read the annals of the Twilight movies, she was very, 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:07.080 very controlling over those. But I'm hoping that alongside the 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:11.600 writer that they have bought on for this, I'm hoping 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.360 that they will be able to have a little bit 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:18.960 of a of humor added to this because in my mind, 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:20.880 I think it's going to be like an adult animation 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.880 take that recognizes the outrageousness of the book. 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.440 Now, see, that's the thing, because I'm not sure that 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:30.440 Stephanie has ever really been plugged into the kind of 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:35.240 secondary and lasting appeal of her works. You know, in 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:39.720 the moment they hate, they were hits because they were 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:41.960 it was a story that people were reading and people 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.720 were excited for. But like the life that it has 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:49.880 taken on since then, is influenced significantly by an awareness 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:55.679 of how campy and shlocky and like absolutely bizarre. The 0:08:56.160 --> 0:09:01.199 films in particularly are and Meyer has ever seen particularly 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:07.560 plugged into the camp side, like the the you know, 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:12.200 the Rocky Horror Picture show exactly cull to aspect of her, 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:16.840 the way her material is consumed by her fans. 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:21.360 Maya is working alongside SHANEI Daily, who will executive produce 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:25.079 and write the series, and she's worked on Tell Me Lies, 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.679 The Walking Dead, well beyond Raised by Wolves and they 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:29.640 get down. So I would say she is like a 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.760 YA focus person, but she does have a lot of 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:37.120 good credit and I'm hoping, like I feel that you 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:40.800 have to have a sense of humor about this, and Lionsgate, 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.840 you know, are very aware of the meme factor. They've 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.640 started making the three Edward Moon t shirts. They have 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:51.600 leaned into the meme mobility of it with their hot 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.160 topic products which are now everywhere again like it's two 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:58.360 thousand and eight, and I'm hoping that Stephanie is more 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.240 aware of that ass then is open to it. I 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.679 will also say I'm hoping that Stephanie has grown as 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.960 a person, because it has become quite notorious that she 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:10.079 would only allow the Cullens to be cast as white, 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:13.800 even though Catherine Hardwick wanted to cast different people in 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.199 the roles and stuff, so I'm hoping she's grown from there. 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:19.720 But yes, I'm absolutely looking forward to this. And if 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.079 you want some fun, just go on like your favorite 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:25.480 social media of choice x Threads probably even has some 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.320 Tumbler has a lot, and just look up Midnight Sun 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.199 because you will not believe what happens in this book. 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.800 It's absolutely awful and I personally cannot wait to watch it. 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:38.559 Slash get hired to write on it. Shanaid Daily Netflix 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.640 call me. I know too much about Twilight. I've done 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:41.040 my time. 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.880 Next up, Banana Nana nanat. 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.960 Netflix has greenlit an animated. 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.640 Ghostbusters series, which is first announced in twenty twenty two. 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:58.320 In addition, Elliott Klin, former head writer at The Daily 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.000 Show and a comic book writer in his own right, 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.160 has boarded the project as a writer and EP. This 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:09.400 is not the first Ghostbusters several Ghostbusters animated projects, including 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:15.559 one that was only only like, very very slimly connected 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:20.080 to the very famous Ghostbusters movies of the eighties and 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.199 was very confusing for many children of the. 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:27.240 Era why it did not resemble the Ghostbusters that they 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:28.720 had seen in the movie theaters. 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.800 But your thoughts on this new Netflix project. 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:33.760 I think it's a great idea. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:34.440 I'm not. 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:39.360 I think IP being reimagined in different forms is one 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.520 of the most interesting ways to do it. I think 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:46.880 Ghostbusters has always been apt for a great animated series. 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.480 I think if this leans more into the there's toys 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:50.880 they could go. I think it would make a great 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:55.320 kids show, especially as every company is getting back into 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:59.040 that idea of toyotic shows, like can you have a 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.880 show that has its own toy line? Like one of 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:03.840 the shows I'm going to talk about today Netflix is 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:09.520 Camp Cretaceous that basically re invigorated the Jurassic Park toy 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.719 market in shops like Target and stuff. So I think 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:16.719 there's that version. But if you rewatch the original two 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:20.200 Ghostbusters movies, which I love dearly as much as they 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:24.280 have aged, they are very adult. They're this kind of 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:28.120 interesting mix of like a fantasy comedy but with like 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.560 a you know, an snl edge almost, And I think 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:36.600 there's an interesting argument for a Ghostbusters show that leans 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:38.680 into that. I wouldn't want it to go full Rick 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:43.200 and Morty adult animation, but I do think it would 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:44.280 be interesting. 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:45.959 I was saying, I do. 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.120 Think there's something interesting there, so it would be cool 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:53.480 to see. I mean, Elliott Kaitlin has that duality because 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.400 he did Daily Show, which is obviously like an adult 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:59.480 political humor show, but he also wrote like Disney Villain's comics. 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.960 So I feel that it could go either way. I 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.280 would like to see it. I love ghosts. I love 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.800 seeing a beautifully drawn animated creature. It's one of the 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.240 joys of animation is you can make scary things look cool. 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.600 So yeah, I think it will be fun. Will any 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.160 of these shows come out? Who knows, It's impossible to know. 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.480 When you talk about an announcement, You're like, will it 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.000 come out? Well, that's Whylight show ever come out? I 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:22.880 don't know, but I sure hope so, because the discourse 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:23.840 will be deranged. 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:28.199 Absolutely. Coming up next, we're welcoming our round table and 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:30.439 stepping out of the airlock to talk about Netflix animation. 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:55.920 Bring them out. We're so delighted to be joined Rosie 0:13:55.920 --> 0:14:00.240 and I by producers Carmen and Jill Wells. Talk about 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:05.720 some of the stuff that we are watching currently on 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:12.079 Netflix in the animated space. Anybody want to start. I've 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:15.319 been reaching. I've been watching Terminator zero, the recently leaked 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.080 Terminator zero I'm about halfway you have to start. 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:25.160 Yeah, biggest current animation hit for Netflix. Also very unique 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:31.560 in that they went to a Japanese anime studio, Project IG, 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.440 that had actually made you know, ghost in the Shell, 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.320 like a lot of stuff, and then brought on an 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:40.320 American writer, Matson Tomlin, who is a comic book writer 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.720 who also reat Project Power for Netflix, who I think 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.400 had some involvement in early drafts of The Batman. So 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.840 it's a very unique project and I do feel like 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:53.840 it presents something we haven't yet seen in the Terminator space. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:15:01.200 So here's the setup. The year is nineteen ninety seven, Uh, 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:08.000 one of the great years in nineties history. Malcolm Lee 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:13.360 is developing an AI named Cokeo, who he just keeps 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:20.280 arguing with who is it? It's basically, WelCom you take 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.160 some space from Cokeroo. Anyway, I'll get to that in 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.880 a second. Uh. Who is who? He wants to create 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.880 because he understands that, like, uh, there's this sky Net 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:31.800 project happening in the States and they want to create 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:32.960 something that will compete with that. 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:39.080 And he begins wondering, hey, is this a good idea? 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:43.320 For various reasons, including the fact that there are currently 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:49.200 active Terminators uh plying the streets of Japan looking for 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.760 him and his family in order to fucking wipe him out. 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.200 Let's talk about it. I think this is I think 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.640 the term as I texted to Rosie when I told 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.240 her I was watching it. I love the Terminator ring, 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:03.400 particularly early on. The Terminator ing is so pretty and 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:09.120 fucking dark and great Malcolm arguing with Corcoro all the time. 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.440 I could take her leave, But that does kind of 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:17.200 it does the shifting and does become something that really 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.280 drives the drama and just and the action as you 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.800 get into the midpoint of the series where I am currently, 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:27.240 it's great. It's a really easy watch and the cold 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.000 open is like grabs you by the neck. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:30.760 Yeah. 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.800 Who anybody else watching this? Yeah? 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:34.840 Yes. 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.200 My brother put it on as like background and it 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.560 made me put my phone down, which is astounding. 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.560 I was like, what is happening? 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:45.720 It was giving me almost and like cerebral and sort 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:46.880 of in animation. 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.400 Style, like perfect blue vibes, where. 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:54.960 These they do these super high angles at times and 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:56.880 its face like kind of cocks of the side. We're like, 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:02.280 this is the most evil Terminator's truly terrifying in the 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.800 if you're watching the English version, the cast is astounding. 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.919 So Timothy Oliphant plays the Terminator. 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.480 Which sweet baby Timothy face. 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.720 He's so good it is face behind animation. 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.480 I'm like, I'm like, let's do the live action Timothy 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:23.480 Oliphant Terminator because that sounds great. I'm like, let's. 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:28.359 Stay hell yeah, and Co was placed by Razzario Dawson, 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.040 who's then arguing with Malcolm Lee, who is Andre Holland. 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.320 So you too liked incredibly talented the actors doing these fights. 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.920 So though they can sometimes be tedious, if you're like this, 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:38.960 I'm a huge anime hast. I like when an anime 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.679 is like here, here's a slice of life. Here's a 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:43.840 very long conversation that you're not quite sure what it means, 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.320 but by the end you'll be like, I understand the 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.919 philosophical concepts we were setting up in this conversation. I 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:52.160 saw sixteen hours ago. It's really it's a fun show. 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.159 And what I was really impressed by was. 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.719 The action sequences. The fights are fun as hell to watch. 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:02.000 Yeah, common you are the only one who's like, finished it, right. 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.639 Yes, I actually I finished it last night. I you know, 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:07.760 my boyfriend and I were on the sofa together and 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.320 there was one more episode to go. It was like 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.679 eleven o'clock and I was like, let's just fucking do it. 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.040 I got it. 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:20.320 I got to see how the shit ends exactly, because yeah, 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.040 it really it does really continue to ratchet up like 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.840 the you know, it starts out really slow, but then 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.000 you start to see where it's like going and you 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:31.199 get really excited to just keep watching. I did not watch. 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:36.600 I am a little bit of a sub only nerd, 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.680 so I watched the Japanese. I had no idea that 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.560 that that we had a star senate American cast for 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:47.199 the for the English. But I loved voice acting. I 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:51.600 loved the animation and what I to echo kind of 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.720 what Joel said about the action. And also Perfect Blue, 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.359 which is like my favorite anime movie of all time. 0:18:58.160 --> 0:18:58.520 Uh. 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:06.000 The me Saki character, which is another robot, really brings 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:10.600 a fun She's not a terminator and she's not run 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:14.439 by Skyna and she's not run by Cocoro. She is 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:18.240 like her own robot with her own free will, but 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:21.640 she brings like this. Her action scenes are like she's 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:22.360 doing ballet. 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:24.240 It's like absolutely. 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.919 Very beautiful to watch. 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.159 She's gonna ask the panel as Terminator fans, if you 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.359 guys are Terminators had like a rough go of it 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:38.879 the past two films. Yeah, yeah, I'm so sorry. I 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.440 apologies to all of you to movies that were really 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:43.080 a struggle. 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:45.240 This show is excellent. 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:47.920 How do you feel it places within the lore and 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:49.639 what do you think it means for the future of 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:50.280 the franchise. 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.960 So I I do think that it is really good 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:59.200 if you like Terminator. I also was lucky enough to 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.000 I saw it at Netflix on like their screening room 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.359 is like a crazy led screen, and the first time 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.879 I watched it, I didn't have any subtitles. It was 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:11.280 all in Japanese, and I felt like it captured you instantly. 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:13.800 It was before I was in a whole mass and 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:17.040 I still felt like it was just so engaging visually 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.520 so beautiful. So what I will say is, I think 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:23.439 the reason it's so good is because of the story 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:28.240 Mattson decided to tell. Because when Netflix approached him, they said, oh, 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.120 we want it because we're doing it with a Japanese 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:33.960 studio that has to be at least like one Japanese character. 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.400 And Matson was like, well, why don't we just set 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:38.800 it in Japan? And I think the idea that is 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:42.440 so appealing and that also broadens the world of Terminator 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:45.679 is what does Judgment Day look like in different places? 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:48.840 And I think that is really interesting and I think 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:54.399 that could essentially become an anthology series throughout the world. 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:57.360 What does Judgment Day look like here? What different countries 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:59.760 were trying to make their own versions of Skynet or 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:04.719 their versions to stop Skynett. That is an infinitely interesting 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:11.000 thing that the American films have not really looked into 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.960 outside of how does it impact this kind of western 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:17.000 border state? And I do love I love the first 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:20.520 two Terminator movies. I feel like this is more akin 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:25.160 to Terminator Too, simply because of the family aspects, though 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:28.480 it does not have as much of the ya kind 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:31.280 of kids crossover that Terminator Too had because of John 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:34.639 Connor and that incredible Edward Furlong performance. This is a 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:37.520 little bit more dry, a little bit more serious, but 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:43.080 also interestingly, one of the things that Mattson mentioned was 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:46.919 that his biggest takeaway from the first Terminator movies that 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:51.159 really impacted him was the fact that Terminator is really 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:57.359 just this like romance story about like Kyle Reese, like 0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.960 looking at his photo of Sarah Connor being in love 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:02.200 with her before he's even met her, And that's really 0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:03.520 the whole horror friend. 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:05.200 Mom exactly like. 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:14.439 And like and I think that I think that human 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:20.159 har that kind of like beating funny, like weird in 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:21.760 the intimate moments. 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:24.560 That made the thing about the first term in a movie, 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:28.200 a movie I watched so much is like, don done. 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:32.880 How scary is it? Right? It's just people like it's 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:34.600 just a guy like calling you being like, are you 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:38.320 Sarah Connor? Like that kind of scary, intimate horror. This 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:41.440 show does those small things well as well as doing 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:42.280 the big things. Well. 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:47.120 Yeah, you know, when the show Terminator zero, it does 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:49.440 start out really slow, and I was kind of annoyed, 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:52.520 though they give you enough each episode that you're like, I, 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:55.880 of course I'm gonna keep going, right, But it builds 0:22:55.920 --> 0:23:01.720 to a point that there's a not to spoil it 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:03.600 too much, but there's a scene in which the resistant 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:10.600 soldier Cho swings into action to protect Malcolm's kids, and 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:13.840 it really made me think of the first true terminum movies, 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:17.800 which are excellent because the terminating movies for me, they 0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:20.480 make you think about your own body. You know, you're 0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:24.040 fighting this thing that's like it can't be stopped. It's incessant. 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:27.600 It looks like you, but it's not. It's indestructible, or 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:31.280