1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Warning, Today's episode contains spoilers for a bunch of animated 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: shows on Netflix. But it's really not that big deal, 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: but we will spoil them slightly, mate. 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: So you warned. 5 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: Hello. 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: My name is Jason Concepcion. 7 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 4: And I'm Rosy Nike and welcome back to x ray Vision. 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: The podcast where we dive deep to your favorite shows, movies, 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: comics and pop culture. We're coming to you from My 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: Heart podcast, where we're bringing you to episodes a week 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: every Tuesday. 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 4: Anthors in today's Animation Month episode. In the previously on, 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 4: we're gonna be talking about the return of the BoJack 14 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 4: Horseman Team. 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: Oh, everybody's favorite depressed actor horse. 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 4: You know the best. He changed the game for Netflix. 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 4: He's going to be coming up a lot today and 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 4: they are the team is coming back with a new 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 4: animation series. 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 3: There. 21 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 4: Also, we're going to our Edward and Bella are getting 22 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 4: the animation treatment that is going to be extremely cursed. 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 4: I'll tell you all about Midnight Sun and so are 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: the Ghostbusters, which I think for people mine and Jason's 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 4: age is probably a delight because our real Ghostbusters was 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 4: like a big thing when we were kids. We love 27 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 4: the Ghostbusters cartoon and in the airlock, we are going 28 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 4: to be talking about what we watch on Netflix and 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 4: how Netflix animation offerings are kind of changing the game, 30 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 4: or looking at the impact of some of our favorites 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 4: and how they've shaped what Netflix is doing. And in 32 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 4: Who's Who, we're gonna give our rapid fire recommendations for 33 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: what Netflix animation shows you should be watching. 34 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: Up next news First up, BoJack Horseman team of Rafael, 35 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: Bob Blacksburg, Tornante Company, Shadow Machine, etc. Reunite for Netflix 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: animated series Long Story Short, which is slated debut in 37 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. The BoJack team has a new project. 38 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's about a family and kind of the shared 39 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 4: history of a family over a long time, So that 40 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 4: should be interesting, lots of depressing and I'm sure existential 41 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 4: mining to be done from that. I'm very happy that 42 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 4: Lisa Haniwal is the superviaing producer and she's going to 43 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: design the original art for the series. She's an original 44 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: BoJack person who also did Tukarimberti, which was completely brilliant, 45 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 4: And Yeah, I think this is going to be great, 46 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 4: and I think BoJack is one of those shows that 47 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 4: changed the game for adult animation changed the game for 48 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 4: Netflix and the way they approached animation, especially since it 49 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 4: was nominated for Emmy's etc. And I think it made 50 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 4: them realize there's a space for that with animation. So yeah, 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 4: I'm excited. I think it will probably be very good. 52 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: So that's another one for next year. 53 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: Next up. I've been watching Terminator zero for the past 54 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: couple of days on Netflix, but many have been watching 55 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: it for much longer. 56 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 5: Because I'm not Netflix on Netflix. 57 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: Because all a significant amount of Netflix's animation offerings that 58 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: are coming up in the future have been leaked online. 59 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: That's pretty including upcoming seasons of Arcane out there, a 60 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: Terminator zero season. 61 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 3: And more. 62 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 4: This is crazy, Yeah, Randmahalff, which I'm like, extremely excited 63 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 4: for another remake of a classic Rumika taka Ashi anime. 64 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 4: I have not pirated it obviously, not even with any 65 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: hypothetical Say guys, I really didn't do it. This was 66 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 4: a bad leak, dand Dan, which is a huge get 67 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 4: for Netflix. The fact that leaked. Also the Plankton movie 68 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 4: that's coming up, which is really wild because I feel like, 69 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 4: did we even know that was happening so soon after 70 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 4: the Sandy Cheeks movie. Yeah, Netflix basically told Variety and 71 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: I quote one of our production partners has been compromised 72 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 4: and footage from several of our titles has unfortunately leaked online. 73 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 4: My understanding was it was a pretty bad leak, especially 74 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: Arcane season two. Obviously, that's huge, That's probably one of 75 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 4: the biggest releases Netflix has left. So yeah, not great stuff, 76 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 4: very dramatic, and it does. Interestingly, they're saying that the 77 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 4: partner in question is like a localization service provider. 78 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're They're a company that does the subtitles for me. 79 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and make sure that they feel like you're reading 80 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 4: something that makes sense rather than just kind of a 81 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 4: basic translation. But yeah, you know, hard to feel bad 82 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: for corporations, but I do feel bad for all the 83 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: people who worked on these shows and if that is 84 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 4: impacting them. But now terminated zeros out there. People seem 85 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 4: to be watching it. We're gonna be talking about it, 86 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 4: so obviously has not impacted the hype or the release 87 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: that much. 88 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: My friend Zach Tuscani, currently a touring comedian, used to 89 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: do a very similar job doing the subtitles for television 90 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: at a similar company out in the VA and but 91 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: it was mostly just watching a lot of like Judge, Judy. 92 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 4: Wild, right, it's you got to think about, like everyone 93 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 4: gets subtitles. We were talking about this the other day 94 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 4: because you know, comic book localization is also a thing 95 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: where you release comics in different countries, and it's just 96 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 4: so interesting to think about. For example, you know, in Europe, 97 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 4: the Scrooge McDuck comics are still some of the biggest 98 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 4: comics in the world, and they are all translated into 99 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 4: different languages. So like, whose job is it to localize 100 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 4: Scrooge McDuck because that is like so specific. But you 101 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 4: know in like Holland, Scrooge McDuck is selling like hundreds 102 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 4: of thousands of copies a month, like it it's just 103 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 4: like wild. But yeah, Judge Judy, Scrooge McDuck, you could 104 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 4: be localizing these things too if you are bilingual, the 105 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 4: dreams you could achieve. Oh Baby, next. 106 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 5: Time Midnight Sun, not Midnight Suns. 107 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: Not Marvels Midnight Son, not Marvels Midnight Suns, but Twilight 108 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 1: Midnight Sun. 109 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 4: Baby I'm sorry. 110 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 5: Has landed at netflick. 111 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 4: Okay. Twilight Midnight Son is a twenty twenty book that 112 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 4: Stephanie Meyer wrote. Twilight author Stephanie Meyer released this novel 113 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty, and it retells Twilight from Edward's perspective. Now, 114 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 4: this is not to be confused with. 115 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: The book from about returning to her fanfic roots. 116 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 4: Exactly this, And this is not to be confused with 117 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: the hilarious book that she released like ten years before 118 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 4: where she just switched the genders of the characters and 119 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 4: called the male character Beaumont Color. It was just ridiculous, 120 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 4: or Beaumont the other way around, but it was just 121 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 4: very silly. No, this is Midnight Sun, which is a 122 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 4: huge tome and it tells twilight from Edward's perspective. But 123 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: if you were on the internet when this book came 124 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 4: out in twenty twenty, which obviously also collided with Lockdown, 125 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 4: you will likely have seen some of the most unhinged 126 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 4: pages from this book because Edward is an insane, sociopath 127 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 4: one hundred year old vampire. So one of the most 128 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 4: famous scenes from this book is that when he first 129 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 4: sees Bella in the very famous scene that I'm sure 130 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: you've seen memed from the movies where he covers his 131 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 4: nose and she thinks it's because she smells, but it's 132 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 4: because she smells delicious. The book has like a ten 133 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 4: page description of just like him committing a massacre in 134 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 4: the classroom, of all the people he would kill so 135 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: that he could get to Bella to drink her blood. 136 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 4: It's absolutely deranged. Stephanie Meyer is a producer, and if 137 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: you've read the annals of the Twilight movies, she was very, 138 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 4: very controlling over those. But I'm hoping that alongside the 139 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: writer that they have bought on for this, I'm hoping 140 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: that they will be able to have a little bit 141 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 4: of a of humor added to this because in my mind, 142 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be like an adult animation 143 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 4: take that recognizes the outrageousness of the book. 144 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: Now, see, that's the thing, because I'm not sure that 145 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: Stephanie has ever really been plugged into the kind of 146 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: secondary and lasting appeal of her works. You know, in 147 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: the moment they hate, they were hits because they were 148 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: it was a story that people were reading and people 149 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: were excited for. But like the life that it has 150 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: taken on since then, is influenced significantly by an awareness 151 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: of how campy and shlocky and like absolutely bizarre. The 152 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: films in particularly are and Meyer has ever seen particularly 153 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: plugged into the camp side, like the the you know, 154 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: the Rocky Horror Picture show exactly cull to aspect of her, 155 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: the way her material is consumed by her fans. 156 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: Maya is working alongside SHANEI Daily, who will executive produce 157 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 4: and write the series, and she's worked on Tell Me Lies, 158 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 4: The Walking Dead, well beyond Raised by Wolves and they 159 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 4: get down. So I would say she is like a 160 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 4: YA focus person, but she does have a lot of 161 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 4: good credit and I'm hoping, like I feel that you 162 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 4: have to have a sense of humor about this, and Lionsgate, 163 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 4: you know, are very aware of the meme factor. They've 164 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: started making the three Edward Moon t shirts. They have 165 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 4: leaned into the meme mobility of it with their hot 166 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 4: topic products which are now everywhere again like it's two 167 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 4: thousand and eight, and I'm hoping that Stephanie is more 168 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: aware of that ass then is open to it. I 169 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 4: will also say I'm hoping that Stephanie has grown as 170 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 4: a person, because it has become quite notorious that she 171 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 4: would only allow the Cullens to be cast as white, 172 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: even though Catherine Hardwick wanted to cast different people in 173 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 4: the roles and stuff, so I'm hoping she's grown from there. 174 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 4: But yes, I'm absolutely looking forward to this. And if 175 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 4: you want some fun, just go on like your favorite 176 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 4: social media of choice x Threads probably even has some 177 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 4: Tumbler has a lot, and just look up Midnight Sun 178 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 4: because you will not believe what happens in this book. 179 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: It's absolutely awful and I personally cannot wait to watch it. 180 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 4: Slash get hired to write on it. Shanaid Daily Netflix 181 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 4: call me. I know too much about Twilight. I've done 182 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 4: my time. 183 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: Next up, Banana Nana nanat. 184 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 5: Netflix has greenlit an animated. 185 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: Ghostbusters series, which is first announced in twenty twenty two. 186 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: In addition, Elliott Klin, former head writer at The Daily 187 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: Show and a comic book writer in his own right, 188 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: has boarded the project as a writer and EP. This 189 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: is not the first Ghostbusters several Ghostbusters animated projects, including 190 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: one that was only only like, very very slimly connected 191 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: to the very famous Ghostbusters movies of the eighties and 192 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: was very confusing for many children of the. 193 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 5: Era why it did not resemble the Ghostbusters that they 194 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 5: had seen in the movie theaters. 195 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: But your thoughts on this new Netflix project. 196 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 4: I think it's a great idea. 197 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: I'm not. 198 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: I think IP being reimagined in different forms is one 199 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 4: of the most interesting ways to do it. I think 200 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 4: Ghostbusters has always been apt for a great animated series. 201 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 4: I think if this leans more into the there's toys 202 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: they could go. I think it would make a great 203 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 4: kids show, especially as every company is getting back into 204 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 4: that idea of toyotic shows, like can you have a 205 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: show that has its own toy line? Like one of 206 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 4: the shows I'm going to talk about today Netflix is 207 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 4: Camp Cretaceous that basically re invigorated the Jurassic Park toy 208 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 4: market in shops like Target and stuff. So I think 209 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 4: there's that version. But if you rewatch the original two 210 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 4: Ghostbusters movies, which I love dearly as much as they 211 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: have aged, they are very adult. They're this kind of 212 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 4: interesting mix of like a fantasy comedy but with like 213 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 4: a you know, an snl edge almost, And I think 214 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: there's an interesting argument for a Ghostbusters show that leans 215 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 4: into that. I wouldn't want it to go full Rick 216 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 4: and Morty adult animation, but I do think it would 217 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 4: be interesting. 218 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 2: I was saying, I do. 219 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 4: Think there's something interesting there, so it would be cool 220 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: to see. I mean, Elliott Kaitlin has that duality because 221 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 4: he did Daily Show, which is obviously like an adult 222 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 4: political humor show, but he also wrote like Disney Villain's comics. 223 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 4: So I feel that it could go either way. I 224 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: would like to see it. I love ghosts. I love 225 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: seeing a beautifully drawn animated creature. It's one of the 226 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 4: joys of animation is you can make scary things look cool. 227 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think it will be fun. Will any 228 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: of these shows come out? Who knows, It's impossible to know. 229 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 4: When you talk about an announcement, You're like, will it 230 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: come out? Well, that's Whylight show ever come out? I 231 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: don't know, but I sure hope so, because the discourse 232 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 4: will be deranged. 233 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Coming up next, we're welcoming our round table and 234 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: stepping out of the airlock to talk about Netflix animation. 235 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: Bring them out. We're so delighted to be joined Rosie 236 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: and I by producers Carmen and Jill Wells. Talk about 237 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: some of the stuff that we are watching currently on 238 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: Netflix in the animated space. Anybody want to start. I've 239 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: been reaching. I've been watching Terminator zero, the recently leaked 240 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: Terminator zero I'm about halfway you have to start. 241 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, biggest current animation hit for Netflix. Also very unique 242 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 4: in that they went to a Japanese anime studio, Project IG, 243 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 4: that had actually made you know, ghost in the Shell, 244 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: like a lot of stuff, and then brought on an 245 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 4: American writer, Matson Tomlin, who is a comic book writer 246 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 4: who also reat Project Power for Netflix, who I think 247 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 4: had some involvement in early drafts of The Batman. So 248 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 4: it's a very unique project and I do feel like 249 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 4: it presents something we haven't yet seen in the Terminator space. 250 00:14:55,280 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: So here's the setup. The year is nineteen ninety seven, Uh, 251 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: one of the great years in nineties history. Malcolm Lee 252 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: is developing an AI named Cokeo, who he just keeps 253 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: arguing with who is it? It's basically, WelCom you take 254 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: some space from Cokeroo. Anyway, I'll get to that in 255 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: a second. Uh. Who is who? He wants to create 256 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: because he understands that, like, uh, there's this sky Net 257 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: project happening in the States and they want to create 258 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: something that will compete with that. 259 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 5: And he begins wondering, hey, is this a good idea? 260 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: For various reasons, including the fact that there are currently 261 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: active Terminators uh plying the streets of Japan looking for 262 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: him and his family in order to fucking wipe him out. 263 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. I think this is I think 264 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: the term as I texted to Rosie when I told 265 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: her I was watching it. I love the Terminator ring, 266 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: particularly early on. The Terminator ing is so pretty and 267 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: fucking dark and great Malcolm arguing with Corcoro all the time. 268 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: I could take her leave, But that does kind of 269 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: it does the shifting and does become something that really 270 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: drives the drama and just and the action as you 271 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: get into the midpoint of the series where I am currently, 272 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: it's great. It's a really easy watch and the cold 273 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: open is like grabs you by the neck. 274 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 275 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: Who anybody else watching this? Yeah? 276 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: Yes. 277 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 6: My brother put it on as like background and it 278 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 6: made me put my phone down, which is astounding. 279 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: I was like, what is happening? 280 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 6: It was giving me almost and like cerebral and sort 281 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 6: of in animation. 282 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: Style, like perfect blue vibes, where. 283 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 6: These they do these super high angles at times and 284 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 6: its face like kind of cocks of the side. We're like, 285 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 6: this is the most evil Terminator's truly terrifying in the 286 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 6: if you're watching the English version, the cast is astounding. 287 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 6: So Timothy Oliphant plays the Terminator. 288 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: Which sweet baby Timothy face. 289 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: He's so good it is face behind animation. 290 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like, let's do the live action Timothy 291 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 4: Oliphant Terminator because that sounds great. I'm like, let's. 292 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 6: Stay hell yeah, and Co was placed by Razzario Dawson, 293 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 6: who's then arguing with Malcolm Lee, who is Andre Holland. 294 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: So you too liked incredibly talented the actors doing these fights. 295 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 6: So though they can sometimes be tedious, if you're like this, 296 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 6: I'm a huge anime hast. I like when an anime 297 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 6: is like here, here's a slice of life. Here's a 298 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 6: very long conversation that you're not quite sure what it means, 299 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 6: but by the end you'll be like, I understand the 300 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 6: philosophical concepts we were setting up in this conversation. I 301 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 6: saw sixteen hours ago. It's really it's a fun show. 302 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 6: And what I was really impressed by was. 303 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 2: The action sequences. The fights are fun as hell to watch. 304 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, common you are the only one who's like, finished it, right. 305 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 3: Yes, I actually I finished it last night. I you know, 306 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: my boyfriend and I were on the sofa together and 307 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: there was one more episode to go. It was like 308 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 3: eleven o'clock and I was like, let's just fucking do it. 309 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: I got it. 310 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: I got to see how the shit ends exactly, because yeah, 311 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 3: it really it does really continue to ratchet up like 312 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: the you know, it starts out really slow, but then 313 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 3: you start to see where it's like going and you 314 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 3: get really excited to just keep watching. I did not watch. 315 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 3: I am a little bit of a sub only nerd, 316 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 3: so I watched the Japanese. I had no idea that 317 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: that that we had a star senate American cast for 318 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 3: the for the English. But I loved voice acting. I 319 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: loved the animation and what I to echo kind of 320 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: what Joel said about the action. And also Perfect Blue, 321 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 3: which is like my favorite anime movie of all time. 322 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: Uh. 323 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: The me Saki character, which is another robot, really brings 324 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 3: a fun She's not a terminator and she's not run 325 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 3: by Skyna and she's not run by Cocoro. She is 326 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: like her own robot with her own free will, but 327 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 3: she brings like this. Her action scenes are like she's 328 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 3: doing ballet. 329 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: It's like absolutely. 330 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 3: Very beautiful to watch. 331 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 6: She's gonna ask the panel as Terminator fans, if you 332 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 6: guys are Terminators had like a rough go of it 333 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 6: the past two films. Yeah, yeah, I'm so sorry. I 334 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 6: apologies to all of you to movies that were really 335 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 6: a struggle. 336 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: This show is excellent. 337 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 6: How do you feel it places within the lore and 338 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 6: what do you think it means for the future of 339 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 6: the franchise. 340 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 4: So I I do think that it is really good 341 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 4: if you like Terminator. I also was lucky enough to 342 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 4: I saw it at Netflix on like their screening room 343 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 4: is like a crazy led screen, and the first time 344 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 4: I watched it, I didn't have any subtitles. It was 345 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 4: all in Japanese, and I felt like it captured you instantly. 346 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 4: It was before I was in a whole mass and 347 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 4: I still felt like it was just so engaging visually 348 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 4: so beautiful. So what I will say is, I think 349 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 4: the reason it's so good is because of the story 350 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 4: Mattson decided to tell. Because when Netflix approached him, they said, oh, 351 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 4: we want it because we're doing it with a Japanese 352 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 4: studio that has to be at least like one Japanese character. 353 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 4: And Matson was like, well, why don't we just set 354 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 4: it in Japan? And I think the idea that is 355 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 4: so appealing and that also broadens the world of Terminator 356 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 4: is what does Judgment Day look like in different places? 357 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 4: And I think that is really interesting and I think 358 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 4: that could essentially become an anthology series throughout the world. 359 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 4: What does Judgment Day look like here? What different countries 360 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 4: were trying to make their own versions of Skynet or 361 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 4: their versions to stop Skynett. That is an infinitely interesting 362 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 4: thing that the American films have not really looked into 363 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 4: outside of how does it impact this kind of western 364 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: border state? And I do love I love the first 365 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 4: two Terminator movies. I feel like this is more akin 366 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 4: to Terminator Too, simply because of the family aspects, though 367 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 4: it does not have as much of the ya kind 368 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 4: of kids crossover that Terminator Too had because of John 369 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 4: Connor and that incredible Edward Furlong performance. This is a 370 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: little bit more dry, a little bit more serious, but 371 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 4: also interestingly, one of the things that Mattson mentioned was 372 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 4: that his biggest takeaway from the first Terminator movies that 373 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 4: really impacted him was the fact that Terminator is really 374 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 4: just this like romance story about like Kyle Reese, like 375 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: looking at his photo of Sarah Connor being in love 376 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 4: with her before he's even met her, And that's really 377 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 4: the whole horror friend. 378 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: Mom exactly like. 379 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 7: And like and I think that I think that human 380 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 7: har that kind of like beating funny, like weird in 381 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 7: the intimate moments. 382 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 4: That made the thing about the first term in a movie, 383 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 4: a movie I watched so much is like, don done. 384 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 4: How scary is it? Right? It's just people like it's 385 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 4: just a guy like calling you being like, are you 386 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 4: Sarah Connor? Like that kind of scary, intimate horror. This 387 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 4: show does those small things well as well as doing 388 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 4: the big things. Well. 389 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, when the show Terminator zero, it does 390 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: start out really slow, and I was kind of annoyed, 391 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: though they give you enough each episode that you're like, I, 392 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: of course I'm gonna keep going, right, But it builds 393 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: to a point that there's a not to spoil it 394 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: too much, but there's a scene in which the resistant 395 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: soldier Cho swings into action to protect Malcolm's kids, and 396 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: it really made me think of the first true terminum movies, 397 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: which are excellent because the terminating movies for me, they 398 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: make you think about your own body. You know, you're 399 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: fighting this thing that's like it can't be stopped. It's incessant. 400 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: It looks like you, but it's not. It's indestructible, or 401 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: when you damage it, it doesn't care half its face 402 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: hanging off, and you think about what it would take 403 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: to fight something like this. And there's a moment where 404 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: I was just like giving up her body to let 405 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: these kids escape. 406 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 6: Or to. 407 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: Give them a moment to help her defeat this thing, 408 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: and it is it just so it was so resonant 409 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: for me, Like she's just getting the shit beat out 410 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: of her so that she can buy the kids like 411 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: five seconds so they can defeat this thing. And that, 412 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: to me is the essence of a Terminator story, like 413 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: can you can you double down on your humanity and 414 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: can you sacrifice it your own body in order to 415 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: protect humanity like as a whole, as a species, And 416 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: it was really resonant. I'll just say. Also as a 417 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: fan of Terminator offerings, I thought Terminator Dark Fate was 418 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: really good. Like if we lived, if we were back 419 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: in the pre streaming blockbuster days, this would be a 420 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: Friday night rental movie or that you'd be like that. 421 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 5: Was that was good? 422 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: I didn't go to see it in the theater. I'm 423 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: glad I didn't go to see it in the theater. 424 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,719 Speaker 1: But you know what, like on a Friday night, this 425 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,239 Speaker 1: is a fun movie. Or it'd be a movie that 426 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: you would see fifty times a month on Basic cable. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 427 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: like Stars, Yeah, on Stars or something or tea. 428 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 5: Yes, that you'd be like, you know what. 429 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lock in. I'm gonna lie. I came in 430 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: the middle of this movie. I'm gonna lock it. I 431 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: think the action is like really really cool and inventive 432 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: and hyper violent in a way that is stylistically unique 433 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: for the Terminator franchise. 434 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 4: Also fantastic cost an. 435 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: Awesome cast, including fucking Arnold back in action, and and 436 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: a really cool setup in which the resistance hero that 437 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: is sent back has been augmented in order to like 438 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: physically fight the Terminator. Cool action scenes. You know, it 439 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: takes place in Mexico, like diverse cast. It's just the Yeah, 440 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: it looks it's just a I think I thought it 441 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: was a cool movie. And like Fog Guy, which The 442 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: Fog Guy, which I recently watched because it's now free 443 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: on Peacock. There's this whole slew of movies, like a 444 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: tier of movies that releasing the theaters. You hate it. 445 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: But if we were back in the days where you 446 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: just rented it from Red Box or Blockbuster or whatever 447 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: on a Thursday, Friday, Saturday night, you'd be like, that 448 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: was fun. I enjoyed that. Yeah, So Mander Darkfraight is 449 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: that kind of movie, and Terminator Zero is akin to it. 450 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 4: It's yeah. I think you make a great point, and 451 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 4: I do think this is something that we have lost 452 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 4: via streaming, not just as a literal stream of income 453 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 4: for actors, because Matt Damon's talked about this quite a lot, 454 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 4: how a lot of home video royalties would be how 455 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 4: you made money on like a small indie drama that 456 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 4: didn't make money but one awards, but also movies like 457 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 4: and we're going to talk about the cartoon of this, 458 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 4: but like Scott Pilgrim, that movie did not do well 459 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 4: in the cinema, but it found its audience on home video. 460 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 4: It became a perennial rental, a perennial purchase. It became 461 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 4: a huge court hit in its own right, to the 462 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 4: point where now we're getting this unbelievable anime adaptation of it, 463 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 4: then even going old as something like True Romance, which 464 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 4: is like you know, Tony Scott Quentin Tarantino script, in 465 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 4: my opinion, his best work, and that movie is now 466 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: seen as one of the greatest kind of Hollywood Roman 467 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 4: answers of all time. Failed in the cinema, made a 468 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 4: ton of money on home video, and I do think 469 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 4: that you're right. I feel like The Fall Guy, which 470 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 4: I really love and is like it's got like it's 471 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 4: not a five out of five movie because there's a 472 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 4: couple of things, but. 473 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a three point two out 474 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: of five, but. 475 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 4: When the stunts are good, it's a five out of 476 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 4: five movie, and the stunts are incredible. That's the kind 477 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 4: of movie where if you had it on a VHS tape, 478 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 4: you would be like rewinding just to watch the stunts, 479 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 4: Like you would be watching the cannon roll the eight time, 480 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 4: which by the way, won a world record just accidentally 481 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 4: while doing it. But the cannon roll they do with 482 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 4: the car, Like, there's just so many cool stunts. I 483 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 4: think you're so right. There's that feeling of like you'd 484 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 4: be rewinding back to watch the best parts, and you'd 485 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 4: be like, oh, you know what, I could I'm a blockbuster. 486 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 4: I could get something new. But wouldn't it be sick 487 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 4: to just have that same feeling of watching something great. 488 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 4: We definitely have lost something in that, and streaming can 489 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 4: replicate it to a point, but it's not the same. 490 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: What are you watching, Rosie on them? 491 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 4: I I will see you as we just brought up 492 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 4: I will bring up Scott Pilgrim. We do have a 493 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 4: whole episode coming up, so if you want to hear 494 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 4: me and Jason talk about it more extensively, please join 495 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 4: us there and make sure to check it out. But yeah, 496 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 4: I love this show. I think it's amazing. I think 497 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 4: it's already been winning some awards. I think it's going 498 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 4: to keep winning awards. It's so gorgeously animated. Again, they 499 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 4: went to an actual animation studio that was already established 500 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 4: to make this, and it's Brian Lee, O'Malley, it's Ben 501 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 4: David Grivinsky. And it is a show that's like utterly 502 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 4: in conversation with the last twenty years of fandom and 503 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 4: in a way that I think is very interesting and 504 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 4: also challenging. It's almost like an anti fan service show. 505 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 4: But I am a fan and I loved it, and 506 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 4: I just think it's some of there's a it's funny 507 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 4: because it does have this deep, existential, brilliant writing kind 508 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 4: of the idea of the death of the author and 509 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: all this the death of you know, your favorite characters 510 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 4: and stuff. But it also just has like a sick 511 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 4: five minute Lucas Lee's skateboarding scene, Like that's what's good 512 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 4: about it. It's like it's not like you can just 513 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 4: watch it and be like, oh, this looks sick. And 514 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 4: if you've never read or watched Scott Pilgrim, you will 515 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 4: also probably really enjoy it. But if you have read 516 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 4: or watched the film or read the original series, it 517 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 4: is like so shocking at the end of the first episode, 518 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 4: the choices they decide to make, and I just think 519 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 4: it's something that has made the story as a whole 520 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 4: and the franchise, if you can call it that, just 521 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 4: so much stronger. Like I will tell everyone just watch 522 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 4: that shows. And it's just also really cool and has 523 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 4: like cool music and feels cool. 524 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: Joelle, what are you watching? 525 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I recently rewatched season one of Arcane because it's delicious. 526 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 6: It's so good I love drama. I love all of 527 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 6: the cosplay inspiration rampant. 528 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: Throughout the series. I just realized, maybe. 529 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 6: Stupid Lee that Elo Pernell plays Powder, and I was like, 530 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 6: is this girl just gonna be everywhere and great all 531 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 6: the time? 532 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: Like, how is this happening? I love this series? 533 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, are you a League person? 534 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: Not at all, not even a little bit right. 535 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, the character, But you know what I was always 536 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 6: an appreciator of. I actually used to work in the 537 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 6: building where they shoot the competitions in Bourbank. I was like, 538 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 6: always like really like, I love seeing the character pictures 539 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 6: go up and the designs, and I was like, man, 540 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 6: this looks great. That's a game I should get into 541 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 6: when while I have the time more funds to develop 542 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 6: a new hobby, I don't know. When the show came out, 543 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 6: I was like, oh, maybe this will be an accessible 544 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 6: way to enter this space. And game players were like, 545 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 6: it's really not at all like this kind of but 546 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 6: not really, Like the storyline is a completely different level, 547 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 6: but we also love it. And I think the ability 548 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 6: to navigate both a very aggressive fandom and bring in 549 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 6: people who could care less about the video game and 550 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 6: satisfy both parties. 551 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: They really crack insurmountable. 552 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: Challenge and they nailed it. Yeah, Yeah, I loved it. 553 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 6: I can't wait for season two. We're gonna do a 554 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 6: whole episode on season two and looking ahead and predictions, 555 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 6: and we'll probably do a recap of season one. 556 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: We won't talk about it too much. 557 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 6: But man, I think our Kane was really impressive to 558 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 6: me because it's the first sort of. 559 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: In between ages space. Like they had a lot of 560 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 2: success with. 561 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 6: Katra and who thing about Sira, right, Shira? Yes, yes, 562 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 6: so they had a ton of like all age success 563 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 6: with like okay Shira, they love it. We got the 564 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 6: powerful girls here. They've had a lot of success with 565 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 6: like your BoJack Horsemen's. But this is a show, Like 566 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 6: I mean, if you're you feel your the children in 567 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 6: your life are mature enough, you could introduce them to 568 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 6: this at TWN and it's accessible to them. But I 569 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 6: also showed it to my mother and she was like this, 570 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 6: this happened. It hits for everybody, and I think that's 571 00:31:59,120 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 6: so rare. 572 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: Now I think, like like BoJack is a kind of 573 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: hinge point show for Netflix. Oh h huge hit in 574 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: multiple countries, number, completely. 575 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 4: Different style of animation. Two that we hadn't seen before. 576 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: That's right, And to your point, Joelle did the thing 577 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: that I think every game studio is hoping to do 578 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: when they have one of their properties adapted, which is 579 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: satisfy the fans of the franchise that know all about 580 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: all these different characters and have been playing the game 581 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: for years and bring in a bunch of people who 582 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: have no idea what the first is. 583 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have seen the first I know. I have 584 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 4: seen the first episode of season two, not illegally. Not illegally, 585 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 4: I go to watch it at Netflix on the same 586 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 4: day when I watched the first episode of Terminator zero 587 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 4: and the first episode of Twilight of the Gods and 588 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 4: the first episode of Tourmraiatea the Legend of Laura Croft. 589 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 2: She's blessed. 590 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 4: I was very blessed. I was very lucky me and 591 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 4: Nick got to go in there and watch them together. 592 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 4: But the first episode of Ourcane season two is unbelievable, 593 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 4: and it keeps up everything that you want it to 594 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 4: keep up. So if you're excited, be excited. It's unreal. 595 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 4: It was so great to see it on a big screen. 596 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 4: I think we've been seeing in La recently a lot 597 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 4: of They've been doing full season screenings to FYC. They 598 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 4: just did a full season screening of X Men ninety 599 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 4: seven The Arrow, which people absolutely loved. We've been seeing 600 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: some live action ones too. I would love to see 601 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 4: Netflix team up with a rep cinema like that and 602 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 4: do an arcane full marathon of the first season because 603 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 4: I think, Netflix, yeah, if you want us to it, 604 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 4: we can host it. I mean, get Joe, We'll We'll 605 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 4: do it. We'll host it. Like yes, I think that 606 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 4: seeing it on the big screen just it just cemented 607 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 4: to me how fantastic that animation is. Like, the storytelling's brilliant, 608 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 4: the music, drops are still there, everything you still want. 609 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 4: But to see that animation on a screen like that 610 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 4: and just it is truly I feel like it's groundbreaking. 611 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 4: When it first came out, me and Jason and Zig 612 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 4: were talking a lot about how it felt like Spider 613 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 4: Verse level, Like it really does feel like you're seeing 614 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 4: a different vision for what animation could be. And yeah, 615 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 4: I'm I'm really excited for everyone to see season two. 616 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: Carmen, what are you watching? 617 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 3: I want to talk about Sailor Moon Cosmos and I 618 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 3: do have a silly word after if we have time. 619 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 3: I have another silly recommendation that I don't have as 620 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: much to say about too, but Sailor Moon Cosmos just 621 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 3: came out recently on Netflix and it has been absolutely amazing. 622 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 3: It's a two part basically, it's basically two movies. It's 623 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 3: like three hours of total if you were to watch 624 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 3: the whole thing, and this is the final arc of 625 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 3: the Sailor Moon story essentially. It was never aired originally 626 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 3: in the US, which is because of the trans themes 627 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 3: that are kind of in the season. The US was like, 628 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 3: we're not doing that in the nineties, so they said. 629 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 4: They were we can't just say their cousins, which is 630 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 4: what they used to do about the lesbians. 631 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 3: Of course, right, yes, they used to do that about 632 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 3: the lesbians, but now we have literal boys transforming into 633 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 3: girls through a magical girl transformation, and there's no way 634 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 3: you can turn that into something more conservative. So it 635 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 3: never aired in the US, and I'm really glad to 636 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 3: see that this has gotten the same treatment as Sailormon Crystal, 637 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 3: which I know some people didn't like Salomon Crystal. Personally, 638 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 3: I loved Sailorman Crystal. 639 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 4: Because I really stuck. 640 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's stuck to the original manga storyline. If you've 641 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 3: read the manga, it's literally the only manga I've ever read, 642 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 3: so I know that that's like exactly like the story 643 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 3: follows it to a tea, and it really pays homage 644 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 3: to Naoko Takuci's original art style, and she is one 645 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 3: of the most amazing artists and makes these beautiful, like 646 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 3: fashion drawings. Everything she draws is like inspired by fashion 647 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 3: magazines and like all of this stuff. So Sailorman Cosmos 648 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,439 Speaker 3: is really fun because it's also the first season where 649 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 3: we don't have Tuxedo Mask or Mamaru. He has gone 650 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 3: to the US for college, and so now when the 651 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,439 Speaker 3: girls are in trouble, they have the Sailor Stars come 652 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 3: in and kind of save the day for them, which 653 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 3: is very fun. So it has this whole kind of 654 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 3: like ury kind of like vibe to it because of 655 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 3: the girls are all in love with these boys that 656 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 3: actually are turn out to be girls, So it has 657 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 3: this whole like kind of vibe to it that's really fun. 658 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 3: And basically they have to fight off all of the 659 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 3: Sailor Scouts have to do their final fight and protect 660 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 3: their crystals from being stolen by Sailor Galaxia, and she 661 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 3: has all these amazing hinchmen that they have to fight off. 662 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 3: It's very kind of like formulaic in that same style 663 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 3: of like we're going to go through all these henchmen 664 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 3: and then you've got the final boss fight with Sailor Galaxia. 665 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 4: I I wrote an article about it IGN because I 666 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 4: actually felt like it was I felt like it was 667 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 4: quite profound, not only because the trans stuff is just done. 668 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 4: They're like, here's a sexy boy group and then they 669 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 4: transform into the sexiest, sluttiest Sailor Scout outfits you've ever seen. 670 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: Yes, they look like. 671 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 4: The outfits were causing quite a stir at San Diego 672 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 4: Comic Con because they had a big poster of them 673 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 4: and everyone was like, wait a minute, who are these 674 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 4: like Sailor Scouts in their underwear? But the thing that 675 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 4: I thought was really cool about it is it it 676 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:50,439 Speaker 4: decides that it's gonna try and answer the ultimate superhero question, right, 677 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 4: which is like who came first Batman or the Joker? 678 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 4: Like does the Joker exist without Batman? Does Batman exist 679 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 4: without the Joker? That kind of question, And it gives 680 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 4: this definitive answer, which is basically like, yes, if you 681 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 4: are a superhero and you keep showing up and doing 682 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 4: your magical girl transformation and being like I want to 683 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 4: save the world, then people are gonna come and try 684 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 4: and stop you. And that and Sailor, you know, Ysagi, 685 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 4: Sala Moon, she has to make this decision to essentially 686 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 4: not fight anymore and to give up, you know, her 687 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 4: her place as Sala Moon, to allow the Cosmos to 688 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 4: come into you know, peace and harmony. And I found 689 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 4: it very profound, and I like anything where it's like, 690 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 4: let's choose love over fighting. And also if you I 691 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 4: would say that if you do, like if you do 692 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 4: like Tuxedo Mask, which like who are you? I don't 693 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 4: think anyone fights, but I will say do stay for 694 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 4: the ending, because you do get some You do get 695 00:38:54,480 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 4: some like Sailor Moon, black Mark, Tuxedo Mask, Mamory like 696 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 4: what happens in the future. But yeah, oh yeah, yeah, 697 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 4: it's really really good. It's like delightful and I think 698 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 4: you yeah, I just think ten out of ten. It 699 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 4: is what as we would say old people would say, 700 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 4: it's an OVA and original video animation, So you're really 701 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 4: getting that. This feels like the kind of thing that 702 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 4: you would go to Blockbuster, you would rent it, and 703 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 4: you'd think you'd rent it all of it, but you 704 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 4: only rented the first half, and then you'd be like 705 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 4: super piste off and you'd go back in the second half, 706 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 4: where where's the But yeah, Also, the animation of all 707 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 4: of these, from Crystal Yes to Cosmos is like unbelievable. Yeah, 708 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 4: I'm so glad you brought this up common thank you 709 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 4: me too. 710 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 6: I was gonna say, I I have like such a 711 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 6: sailor moon was so vibes for me until I went 712 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 6: to summer camp. I was one of the kids who 713 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 6: was like always like hanging out with the camp counselors, 714 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 6: like I don't know, I can relate, Yeah, what's happening 715 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 6: over here. And so one of my camp counselors was 716 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 6: this dude I don't remember his name, sorry, bro. He 717 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 6: had like ginger hair and he had a sailor moon 718 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 6: chair on and. 719 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 2: In my. 720 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 6: Youthful days when I was not as educated as I 721 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 6: was like, sailor moon is for girls, and he turned 722 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 6: around he was like, Sailor Moon is for everybody. And 723 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 6: I always had my I always had my teen. 724 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 2: Vogues with me. 725 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 6: He was like you know, the artists like really into fashion. 726 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 6: And I was like, like, do you like the outfits? 727 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 6: And he was like he was pointing out. He was like, 728 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 6: so like this is the dressers from I was like, 729 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 6: oh my gosh, is the teaching me all about Sailor Moon? 730 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 6: And ever since then, every time I checked out of 731 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 6: Sailor Moo, I'm like, let's go with these costumes in 732 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 6: the fashion and the fact that she was copying looks 733 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 6: out of. 734 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 2: Her character. 735 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 4: She was directly put them in. It was great. 736 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 6: What I assume is an engagement ring, maybe a promised 737 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 6: ring in the series that is so Warders. I was like, 738 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 6: commission it immediately. It's like heart's covered in pearls. 739 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 2: It's that god in't. 740 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 4: I was in like to oh to Luca Lake because 741 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 4: I'd been at one of the studios. I'd been at 742 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 4: Warner Brothers and uh, and I literally went into like 743 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 4: a boutique because they have all these crazy like boutiques 744 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 4: where you can always find weird old granny clothes that 745 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 4: look cool. And they had a ring that looked so 746 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 4: much like Glinn a ring from this series that I 747 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 4: just boy it. It was like five dollars and like 748 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 4: and it's like I've got a big poll and it's 749 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 4: got all the little diamonds around it. But yes, I 750 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:22,720 Speaker 4: feel you deeply. 751 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, just that absolutely to see. 752 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 4: And actually some of our Discord members were like talking 753 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 4: about whether they should watch it or not, so I've 754 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 4: been in there selling it. So yeah, I would just say, 755 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 4: even if you've never actually watched any other sale Moon, 756 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 4: watch this. Also, you'll say, if you want to watch 757 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 4: all of Salo Moon, it is on Hulu, so you 758 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 4: can watch all the original Salo Moon on Hulu, which 759 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 4: is definitely one of my most rewatched animations. 760 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 2: Dubbed or some all that. 761 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,439 Speaker 3: Yes, I was just gonna say with Naoko tech Cheese, 762 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 3: like all right, it's like, if you like the way 763 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 3: it looks, you're gonna like the because everything is really 764 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 3: just about like the aesthetic and the vibe and all 765 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 3: of that, and of course the sor is great and fun, 766 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 3: but it's really just like I'm there for the for 767 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 3: the vibes, you know. 768 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: So yeah, Rosie, you wanted to talk about Jurassic Park 769 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: Camp Cretaceous. 770 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I just want to say I think 771 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 4: this show is absolutely delightful. I would say, I think 772 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 4: this is another touch point show for Netflix because it's 773 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 4: actually been running for such a long time. It was 774 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 4: a collaboration with DreamWorks, which has obviously gone on to 775 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 4: be very successful for them. They have Boss Baby, they 776 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 4: have different animated shows. Camp Cretaceous is set in It's 777 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 4: set at the same time and in the lead up 778 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 4: to the first events of the Jurassic World movie. If 779 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 4: you don't like those movies, if you haven't watched those movies, 780 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 4: if you don't like Chris Pratt, that's fine. He's not 781 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 4: involved kids. It's like some kids and they are on 782 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 4: the island at a summer camp for teens who love dinosaurs, right, 783 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,919 Speaker 4: And there's kids who are there because their families are rich. 784 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 4: There's kids who are there but because they're influencers. There's 785 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 4: kids who are there just because they love dinosaurs. And 786 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 4: then of course, low and behold, it's Strassic Park story. 787 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 4: They should never have had a kid summer camp there. 788 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 4: The park falls apart, and the kids missed the last 789 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 4: boat off the island, so they're just left on island 790 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 4: ubler and there is no joke, no adults, and it's 791 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 4: so fun and no joke. There is like a moment 792 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 4: in the first season where I literally had to pause 793 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 4: it because it was so suspenseful and fantastic, where the 794 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 4: kids are kayaking and they're like finally, like we're gonna 795 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 4: get away, and they pull out and you realize that 796 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 4: they're in the Mossasaurus kind of pen and you see 797 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 4: the shadow closure. Yeah, And they do a really really 798 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 4: good job of doing stuff like that. And the show 799 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 4: has now been on for so long that the characters 800 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 4: you've grown up with them. There's great representation with these characters. 801 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 4: It's a brilliant cast. There's a fantastic queer romance at 802 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 4: the heart of the show. It has a lot of suspense, 803 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 4: a lot of high stakes. And now they actually have 804 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 4: a show called Chaos Theory that is set five years 805 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,399 Speaker 4: after the end of the show, where the kids are 806 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 4: more like young adults and kind of looking at that space. 807 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 2: This show grows with its eyes. 808 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 4: I just look. I think this is kind of like 809 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 4: a Star Wars Rebels situation where if you are of 810 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 4: our age and you watch something, you might be like, oh, 811 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 4: I'm not sure if I like this CG animation, Like 812 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 4: what does this look like? Do I like the character designs? 813 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 4: I would just say pushed through like, this is legit 814 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 4: some of the best, most criton esque Jurassic Park storytelling 815 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 4: that we've had for a really long time. And I 816 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 4: do just think, like I rewatch some of these episodes 817 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 4: and they're scary, they're spooky. The last season before Chaos 818 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 4: Theory is like an insanely high concept sci fi story, 819 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 4: and I really think it's like keeping the passion and 820 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 4: power of Racic Park alive. Even when look, I like 821 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 4: every Jurassic World movie, I'm a sucker for a dinosaur. 822 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 4: I decided I can't. I'm sorry, it's it's just my 823 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 4: it's my my vice is like bad dinosaur movies. But 824 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 4: this show is actually keeping the quality of the Jurassic 825 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 4: Park slash World franchise alive. And I think it is 826 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 4: so incredible that it's been on for like five or 827 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 4: six years, because also we know shows don't last that 828 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 4: long a Netflix, So to me, I just I just 829 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 4: think it and it's such a great binge watch, Like 830 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 4: if you want to watch something it's yeah, I'm a 831 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 4: huge fan. That's a that's a big one for me 832 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 4: in the that could also I think fly under the 833 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 4: radar for a lot of genre fans for a lot 834 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 4: of adults. But it really is just so good. And 835 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 4: if you like Jurassic Park, it's also like full of 836 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 4: you know, the world building, the space that it's setting. 837 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 4: You could say it's full of Easter eggs, but I 838 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 4: think it's more like it's just so immersively in that 839 00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 4: world that you will enjoy discovering those things. Is there 840 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 4: anything else you've been enjoying on Netflix? 841 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 1: From the animations here, I've been I have in my 842 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 1: up necks and have for a long time. The Castlevania show. 843 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 6: Yes, what is it called, the newest one? 844 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever it's called, because I like horror Ship and 845 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: I was as a child, was a huge fan of Castlevania, 846 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:30,240 Speaker 1: the video games. Something hot vampires that yeah, vampires. 847 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 4: That's like one of the funniest names of all time. 848 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,439 Speaker 4: It's it makes me so happy. 849 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: Well, you know what else makes me happy? It makes 850 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:42,320 Speaker 1: us happy. 851 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 5: Here is paying the bills, come. 852 00:46:44,960 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: Back after a message boom from our smalls, And now 853 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: we're going to give you our sixty second Netflix animation recommendations. Carmen, 854 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: let's start with you. 855 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 3: My quick wreck for y'all is it's a silly one, 856 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 3: but through my rome, I want everyone to watch it. It 857 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 3: is such a fun just kind of you can just 858 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 3: like put it on and not worry about it. But 859 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 3: it's about a guy in ancient Greece or ancient Rome, whichever, 860 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 3: ancient Rome, and he gets into the bathtub and is 861 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:37,439 Speaker 3: teleported to modern day on sen culture Japan. So he 862 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 3: goes back to Rome with his what he learned from 863 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 3: modern day Japan's baiting culture and like adapts those into 864 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 3: the Roman bathhouses. It's very ful, yes, And each episode 865 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 3: ends with the actual writer herself and the woman who 866 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 3: made the manga, she visits an onsen, an actual onsen 867 00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 3: in Japan. So it's a little bit of like a 868 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 3: horror cultural Yeah, it's a little bit of that. It's 869 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 3: just silly bath house anime. 870 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 4: I will also say if we're doing quick ones, and 871 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 4: I will say I do think that Netflix's anime selection 872 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,280 Speaker 4: is really incredible. And they have a show called Kataro 873 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 4: Lives Alone. There is legit one of the most heartbreaking, 874 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 4: fantastic dramatic shows I've watched in years. It's about and 875 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 4: the setup is silly, right, kind of like what you 876 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 4: said with yours comment is like the setup is about 877 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 4: a four year old kid who lives by himself, and 878 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,839 Speaker 4: he moves into this building like an apartment building, and 879 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 4: then it's kind of about how like the cranky guy 880 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 4: and the woman who works at the maid Cafe and 881 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 4: all this stuff, they kind of have to come together 882 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 4: to help this little kid, but they what could just 883 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 4: be a silly setup, they actually used to explore, like 884 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 4: why would a kid live by themselves? And what is 885 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 4: it like to kind of try and make your way 886 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 4: in the world when your parents are not good parents? 887 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 4: And it is so good, Like that's one of those 888 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 4: shows where I watched that, and I watched Ranking of Kings, 889 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 4: which is on crunchy roll and is also amazing at 890 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 4: the same time, and I was just like, Wow, I 891 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 4: love my small anime sons, like I would die for them. 892 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, Katara Lives Alone is so good. And I 893 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 4: think Netflix really went out of their way to get 894 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 4: more interesting, eclectic anime offerings, and that's definitely one of them. 895 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,800 Speaker 1: Here, I'll do a sixty second one. Scavenger's Rain recently 896 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:33,280 Speaker 1: on recently on HBO Max, now streaming on Netflix. It 897 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:38,720 Speaker 1: is a sci fi animated series about a group of 898 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: survivors of a ship who are stranded on an alien 899 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:53,800 Speaker 1: planet and start experiencing strange things because of this weird 900 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: and hostile ecosystem that the planet has. 901 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 3: Oscar looking it is. 902 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 1: It's awesome. It reminds me. The vibes are so mysterious. 903 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: It reminds me a lot of I don't know if 904 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:12,720 Speaker 1: anybody has seen the Russian film Solaris or the adapt 905 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 1: the George Colony adaptation from some years ago, but it's 906 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,760 Speaker 1: that kind of spooky kind of like I can't trust 907 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 1: my mind kind of storytelling. The visuals are beautiful and 908 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,760 Speaker 1: striking and so inventive, like as they start delving into 909 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 1: the way this planet it's natural ecosystem works and the 910 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 1: way it uh it's affecting these people, the way they 911 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 1: visualize that is just so fucking compelling and good. And 912 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 1: it was an incredibly underrated show, Like I remember what. 913 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 1: I just saw it because it was in my tiles, 914 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: like my HBO tiles, my Max tiles, and I was like, oh, 915 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: this looks kind of fun. I'll put this on, and 916 00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was a current show that was 917 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 1: like yeah, and that was like coming out. There's like 918 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: no promo and it's great. You can watch it now 919 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 1: on Netflix it's awesome. 920 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,879 Speaker 4: Gave that just like one of the best shows given 921 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 4: out a lot right, one of the shows of the year. 922 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: Joelle, you're you're a quick your quick link? 923 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, So my quick sixty second is an anime 924 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,919 Speaker 6: called Pluto, which is based off a legendary manga which 925 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 6: I have not read, but fans have been like, this 926 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 6: is a great adaptation, So we're gonna trust the fans 927 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 6: on that. If you like Terminator Zero, if you wind 928 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 6: up checking that out and you're enjoying it, your next 929 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:36,359 Speaker 6: click should be Pluto. It's about these like automatons. There's 930 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 6: like eight great ones throughout the world, and they're all 931 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 6: sort of legendary and the regions they come from, and 932 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 6: then someone starts killing them off, and you're following the 933 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 6: story with a detective who is one of the great 934 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 6: eight who's trying to solve it. It gets into some really interesting, 935 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 6: like heady concepts. I was really intrigued by the idea of, 936 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 6: like what happens if you have a body that people 937 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 6: don't expect matches your personality or. 938 00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 2: What they expect you to do. 939 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 6: I really like that it sort of runs throughout. I 940 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 6: was also really intrigued by your typical AI robot stories 941 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 6: of like what is it to be alive? And who 942 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 6: gets to have rights and things like that. It's beautifully 943 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 6: animated with some great action sequences, and the mystery is gripping. 944 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 6: Like from Jump, you are actively engaged in trying to 945 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 6: solve this mystery. They give you so many who could 946 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,839 Speaker 6: like red Herrings and who done it, and they're all 947 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 6: feel so viable. It makes you nervous and excited. It's 948 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,720 Speaker 6: a great series. Check out Pluto. 949 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 4: It's a quick watch based on hersaad like a famous 950 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 4: manga that basically we in tup Prits astro Boy. But 951 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,359 Speaker 4: and it's like, I'm just this. This is like an 952 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 4: adaptation people have been waiting for for years and Yeah, 953 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 4: from everything I've heard, it's just unbelievable. 954 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,240 Speaker 1: On Thursday's episode, we'll be opening up a time capsule 955 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 1: all about Scott Pilgrim on Netflix, and Friday, we're back 956 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,320 Speaker 1: in Middle Earth to discuss episode seven of Rings of 957 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 1: Power season two. That's all for this episode. 958 00:52:54,200 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 5: Bye Bye. 959 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 1: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Kensepsion and Rosie 960 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 1: Knight and is a production of iHeart podcasts Our executive 961 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 1: producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer 962 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: is a Boo Zafar. Our producers are Carmen Laurent and 963 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 1: Mia Taylor. Our theme song is by Brian Basquez. 964 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:27,360 Speaker 4: Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Laude, Kenny Goodman 965 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 4: and Heidi A disco moderata