WEBVTT - SYMHC Classics: The Ghost Army

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Saturday, everybody. The Ghost Army came up briefly in

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<v Speaker 1>our recent episode on Joan Current, so it seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the right time to put out that episode again.

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<v Speaker 1>This one originally came out almost exactly five years ago

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<v Speaker 1>on January, So enjoy. Welcome to Stuff You Missed in

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<v Speaker 1>History Class, a production of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Collie Frying and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy by Wilson. And today we're gonna talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about military history, and it's World War two specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>and even though this particular piece, uh that we're discussing

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<v Speaker 1>is in fact military history, if there were a history

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<v Speaker 1>of ingenuity or sleight of hand, I think this would

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<v Speaker 1>probably be one of the big events on that timeline. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna be talking about the US Ghost Army,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a top secret group that was assembled to

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<v Speaker 1>create confused and mislead access forces. And it's a really

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<v Speaker 1>amazing story that stars Ingenuity and Bravado as sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the the main elements of the piece. And the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of military deception was of course not new to World

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<v Speaker 1>War Two. Everyone has heard of like the Trojan Horse,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, and deceit as a tactic as part of

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<v Speaker 1>sun sus art of war. Almost any culture in history

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<v Speaker 1>that found itself at war with another culture use some

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<v Speaker 1>type of trickery to try to outsmart the enemy, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's sort of a vital part of getting the upper

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<v Speaker 1>hand in a conflict is misleading so that you can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of swoop in with your forces. But this group

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<v Speaker 1>really went to some pretty extraordinary measures to achieve their goals,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did some really fascinating and cool things, uh

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<v Speaker 1>and so, and it was classified for a long time

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<v Speaker 1>and then kind of came to light. So we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about it today because it is really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So to start out at the beginning like we normally do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one third. Headquarters Special Troops was the one and

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<v Speaker 1>only deception outfit that US Army had ever authorized. The

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<v Speaker 1>goal was to corral a group of creative thinkers to

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<v Speaker 1>approach warfare in new ways, and this sort of trickery

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<v Speaker 1>focused effort was inspired by the success of Operation Bertram,

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<v Speaker 1>in which Allied forces used dummy tanks and camouflage to

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<v Speaker 1>trick Rommel's forces into an incorrect assessment of the Allies

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<v Speaker 1>position and strength during the second Battle of l A

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<v Speaker 1>l Amain in North Africa. And also bolstering this case

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<v Speaker 1>for a deception unit was the u S success in

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<v Speaker 1>misleading German intelligence leading up to the Battle of Tunisia.

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<v Speaker 1>They realized deception was working and they thought, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>have a unit that's focused on this. The idea of

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<v Speaker 1>forming a unit dedicated just to this is attributed to

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<v Speaker 1>Captain Ralph Ingersoll. Before the war, he had been a

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity journalist and he had been working with Great Britain

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<v Speaker 1>on deception techniques to mislead the Germans and the time

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<v Speaker 1>leading up the D Day. On Christmas Eve of three,

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<v Speaker 1>a memo to the Assistant Chief of Staff for Operations

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<v Speaker 1>War Department in Washington, d C officially requested the creation

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<v Speaker 1>of a unit with a mission quote to simulate a

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<v Speaker 1>core of two infantry divisions and one armored divisions and

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<v Speaker 1>core installations railhead dumps, etcetera. So, beginning in nine more

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<v Speaker 1>than one thousand young men were recruited, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>often recent art school graduates or ad agency creatives and

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<v Speaker 1>they were handpicked for this assignment. Recruits were sent to

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<v Speaker 1>Camp Forest in Tullahoma, Tennessee to train within there were

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<v Speaker 1>several companies. For the two four Signal Company worked on

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<v Speaker 1>radio counter intelligence. Second Signal Service Company, which was actually

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<v Speaker 1>trained at Pine Camp, New York, worked to develop sonic

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<v Speaker 1>deception techniques. The four oh six Engineer Combat Company worked

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<v Speaker 1>on the big construction projects and was in charge of security.

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<v Speaker 1>And often you'll hear this effortmen anctioned, like when people say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ghost Army they used inflatable tanks to deceive the Germans,

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<v Speaker 1>And that is partially true, but as we mentioned in

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<v Speaker 1>breaking down these different companies within the twenty three, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a whole lot more than that. Yeah, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the tanks get the big, like kind of bud

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<v Speaker 1>speedy headlines all the time, which is understandable. There's really

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<v Speaker 1>cool video that exists, like where you can see them

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<v Speaker 1>rolling over these inflated tanks and there. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that I have ever heard any of the audio recordings,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think I've ever seen anyone reference them online.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can see where the tanks get all the attention.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was not all there was. For instance, audio

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<v Speaker 1>work sometimes referred to as sonic deception, was a huge

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<v Speaker 1>piece of the Ghost Army puzzle. Yeah, they would mount

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<v Speaker 1>these huge speakers to project elaborate soundscapes and radio plays

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<v Speaker 1>that were created by the Second Signal Service Company. And

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<v Speaker 1>these men had recorded tanks and trucks and our tillery units,

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<v Speaker 1>and they sound engineered them into a number of different soundtracks.

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<v Speaker 1>And these recordings would include sounds of tanks on the

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<v Speaker 1>move or military construction, and they would even have things

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<v Speaker 1>like vehicle sputtering. And they basically amassed this really amazing

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<v Speaker 1>sound catalog of basically every military vehicle that they had

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<v Speaker 1>access to, doing everything those machines could do, so they

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<v Speaker 1>could kind of piece them together and create unique and

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<v Speaker 1>specific radio dramas. Basically, so if you wanted to broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>a battalion of vehicles starting up in the distance and

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<v Speaker 1>moving closer, they could create that with their vast library

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<v Speaker 1>of recordings, complete with idiosyncratic engine noises for specific vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of mimic that distance too slowly moving forward

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<v Speaker 1>nearness that you would hear if you were in one

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<v Speaker 1>position with an actual troop going by. I like to

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<v Speaker 1>imagine this as an extremely high tech version of following

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<v Speaker 1>King Arthur around banging coconuts together. But it was very

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<v Speaker 1>high tech even for the time. I mean, they were

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of on the advanced edge of technology and

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<v Speaker 1>how they were using sound. Yeah. Well, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>these that kind of sound work happens in movies and

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<v Speaker 1>TV and things like that all the time now, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's yeah, that's just sort of how it works. So

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<v Speaker 1>this was a different use for that. In addition to

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<v Speaker 1>the three companies created with new recruits, another company was

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<v Speaker 1>looped into their headquarters Special Troops, and that was the

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<v Speaker 1>sixth oh third Engineer Camouflage Battalion. The men of the

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<v Speaker 1>six h third had been working on camouflage for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years already, so they brought their expertise to

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<v Speaker 1>a group already in a fairly polished state. They had

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<v Speaker 1>already managed an impressive accomplishment that by disguising the plant

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<v Speaker 1>in Baltimore where by six bombers were assembled, and the

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<v Speaker 1>event that access forces wished to look for the plant,

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<v Speaker 1>what they would see when they flew over was just

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<v Speaker 1>a regular rural area. And before we get to how

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty third trained and then made their way to Europe, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to pause for a moment for a

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<v Speaker 1>word from a sponsor? Yes, I do so. During the

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<v Speaker 1>spring of n The men of the twenty three were training,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were training in skills that seemed in many

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<v Speaker 1>ways more appropriate for a touring theater company than for

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<v Speaker 1>a group of soldiers. So they built prototype prop vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>burst out of wood and burlap and then out of rubber.

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<v Speaker 1>The rubber versions looked incredibly realistic, but they weighed less

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<v Speaker 1>than a hundred pounds apiece. The men would also train

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<v Speaker 1>with dummy artillery and other prop equipment. They practice sending

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<v Speaker 1>each other fake radio messages, and they learned just enough

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<v Speaker 1>about other different outfits that they could impersonate them, either

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<v Speaker 1>as individuals or as a group, and men who couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>so had to learn because they were going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to quickly alter their uniforms and switch out patches as

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<v Speaker 1>they sort of performed these presto changeo masquerades. In May,

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of the twenty three boarded the U S. S.

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<v Speaker 1>Henry Gibbons in New York, bound for Great Britain. They

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<v Speaker 1>spent about a month near Stratford on Avon while they trained,

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<v Speaker 1>although by all accounts there was also quite a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of partying. Yeah, this sounds like really a lovely time

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<v Speaker 1>that they had while they were in Britain. UH. But

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<v Speaker 1>the first wave of men from the twenty third shipped

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<v Speaker 1>out to France just following D Day, and this was

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<v Speaker 1>a small platoon. It was just fifteen men and they

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<v Speaker 1>landed at oma Omaha Beach on June fourteenth, so just

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<v Speaker 1>out a week a little more UH and nurses actually

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<v Speaker 1>flew with them so that they could tend to the

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<v Speaker 1>wounded that we're waiting there on the beach. Going from

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<v Speaker 1>a month in the idyllic British countryside having what was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a party esque atmosphere into the reality of

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<v Speaker 1>war in France was of course something of a shock.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing that they were there to draw fires. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>the men thought that there was really a suicide outfit. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They they had been trained in different sort of arts

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<v Speaker 1>and UH deceptions, but not so much in actual combat,

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<v Speaker 1>so they really did. Some of them really did think

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<v Speaker 1>at that point like, oh, they're just sending us there

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<v Speaker 1>to die and take the heat off the real soldiers.

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<v Speaker 1>But over the course of the next two months, the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the twenty three joined their fellows in France.

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<v Speaker 1>Leading up to their first big mission, which was Operation Elephant.

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<v Speaker 1>About half of the men in the unit were involved

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<v Speaker 1>in Operation Elephant, during which they pretended to be the

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<v Speaker 1>Army's Second Armored Division. The real Second Armored Division was

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<v Speaker 1>on the move while the twenty three kept up the appearances. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's sort of a theme of their their missions throughout.

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<v Speaker 1>And while this sham did indeed work, nearby German troops

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<v Speaker 1>held their position rather than following the real Second Armored

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<v Speaker 1>Division because they did believe they were still there. This

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<v Speaker 1>was also a pretty big learning experience. During this particular operation,

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<v Speaker 1>it was revealed that if the inflatable tanks that they

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<v Speaker 1>used lost even a small amount of air, the cannons

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<v Speaker 1>would droop and give the whole thing away. They really

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<v Speaker 1>there are some paintings that you can find online and

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<v Speaker 1>in documentaries where you see sort of this droopy cannon barrel,

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<v Speaker 1>and it really does look comical. It's an inherently comical image. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Their tanks are not made to fire into the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it looked very, very silly. And while they

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<v Speaker 1>were not discovering their theatrics during Operation Elephant, it also

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<v Speaker 1>became apparent that setting up an entire false division was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be better executed in the dark of night.

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<v Speaker 1>They had not waited until really late. They used some

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<v Speaker 1>daylight hours to do it, and they also realized that

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<v Speaker 1>they really needed to like tighten up their disguise and

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<v Speaker 1>camouflage game if they wanted to ensure future success. The

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<v Speaker 1>entire twenty three was then tasked with Operation Breast, which

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<v Speaker 1>was named for the nearby French ports city that was

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<v Speaker 1>an odd ues. The Sonic unit was the last to

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<v Speaker 1>arrive in France, so Breast was the first time that

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<v Speaker 1>they three had their full arsenal of tricks at their disposal,

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<v Speaker 1>and the goal was to create the impression of an

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<v Speaker 1>existing tank unit having far greater power than it actually did,

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<v Speaker 1>with the hopes that they would trick the Germans into

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<v Speaker 1>a surrender, and so they used a mix of actual

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<v Speaker 1>tanks and dummies, flash canisters too, sort of fake tanks firing,

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<v Speaker 1>and sound mixing to create this really convincing illusion of

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<v Speaker 1>a huge tank division. And the main bravado move of

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<v Speaker 1>this mission came in the delivery of some of these

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<v Speaker 1>soundscapes that they had mixed. So late at night, members

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<v Speaker 1>of the three would actually sort of creep forward with

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<v Speaker 1>their sound equipment. They would get within about five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yards on the enemy line and they would play sounds

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<v Speaker 1>of what sounded like officers issuing orders and people yelling

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<v Speaker 1>counter order, and even like fake situations of arguments where

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<v Speaker 1>there would be accidents that were staged and there would

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<v Speaker 1>be cursing at these imaginary errors. They were all doing

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<v Speaker 1>this really pretty close to enemy lines. It was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>to think about what that must have been like, sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there in the dark with your speaker playing these things,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing how very close you were. It's so bring to

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<v Speaker 1>think about. It was effective, so effective that it confused

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<v Speaker 1>friendly units positioned about a mile away, and while it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get the Germans under General Herman B. Von Ramkat

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<v Speaker 1>to turn tail, it did keep them from going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a good thing, since that was an estimated

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight thousand troops, and that was almost double what

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<v Speaker 1>the Allies had initially estimated. If they had not been

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<v Speaker 1>tricked into holding their line against this perceived threat from

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<v Speaker 1>this puffed up, half fake tank battalion, they might have

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<v Speaker 1>gone on the offensive and then really damaged the Allied forces.

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<v Speaker 1>And throughout the rest of ninety four and on into nine,

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty three continued to run these military masquerade games,

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<v Speaker 1>and with every mission they would kind of regroup and

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<v Speaker 1>refine their playbook and see what had worked and what

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<v Speaker 1>had and they just got better and better and better.

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<v Speaker 1>They learned how to stage and set dress their fake

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<v Speaker 1>camps more and more authentically, and they started hand painting

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<v Speaker 1>patches to mimic those of existing units, so they if

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't get ahold of real ones, then they would

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<v Speaker 1>stage fake headquarters to give out fake promotions so low

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<v Speaker 1>ranking men would look like generals and other officers, creating

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<v Speaker 1>the full illusion of real operations. And then late at

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<v Speaker 1>night they would you know, go where they were called

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<v Speaker 1>and inflate their fox vehicles and artillery undercover of darkness,

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<v Speaker 1>so that when dawn came, it would appear as though

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<v Speaker 1>a huge surge of troops had arrived in the area.

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<v Speaker 1>And in addition to providing this false image of battle

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<v Speaker 1>ready army troops where there was really only a line

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<v Speaker 1>of fake vehicles and prerecorded noise, the twenty Third's ability

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<v Speaker 1>to seem to appear out of thin air and vanish

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<v Speaker 1>just as quickly actually had a really unnerving effect on

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<v Speaker 1>the enemy, so the German Army started calling them the

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<v Speaker 1>phantom Army. Other tricks included the ongoing burning of fires

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<v Speaker 1>at camps that were deserted, and different ways to create

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<v Speaker 1>fake tank tracks. In addition to the inflatable tanks and trucks,

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<v Speaker 1>they also used dummy planes and buildings. They could mix

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<v Speaker 1>fake radio transmissions within with the real ones to confuse

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<v Speaker 1>the enemy, and they mounted fake parachute drops and put

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<v Speaker 1>up signs directing Allied vehicles that were never actually coming.

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<v Speaker 1>But this elaborate spectacle also included a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 1>acting on the part of the troops. So knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>any US troops were always being watched by German soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>or spies, or sometimes there were French people working for

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<v Speaker 1>the Germans as informants, the boys of the would really

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<v Speaker 1>employ all manner of ruses. They would change out their

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<v Speaker 1>unit insignias as we mentioned, on uniforms as well as

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<v Speaker 1>on vehicles. They would do quick stencil work to change

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<v Speaker 1>everything up, and they would make sure that they were

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<v Speaker 1>seen about town wherever they were kind of drinking and

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out. And if they were asked what unit they

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<v Speaker 1>were a part of, they would just make up names

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<v Speaker 1>or reference a unit that they were covering for. And

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<v Speaker 1>some of them even would uh sort of mount these

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<v Speaker 1>these fake little tableau where they would feign drunkenness and

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<v Speaker 1>blab false information in public places. So this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>became this ongoing game of misinformation and subterfuge where they

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<v Speaker 1>were just sort of always acting. This wasn't completely flawless,

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<v Speaker 1>though sometimes there were mistakes and problems. On occasion, a

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<v Speaker 1>dummy tank would be inflated facing the wrong direction. Because

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<v Speaker 1>all of these set up parts are being done at night,

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<v Speaker 1>it was easy enough to lift one and turn it around,

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<v Speaker 1>but if it was already daylight when they realized the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to have to do it with really

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<v Speaker 1>careful timings so as not to be noticed. That one point,

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<v Speaker 1>several vehicles that had been inflated in the night were

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<v Speaker 1>warmed so much the sun came up that the air

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<v Speaker 1>expanding inside them caused them to pop loudly as they

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<v Speaker 1>sprang leaks. And while while this sort of sounds hilarious,

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<v Speaker 1>it was happening during a war. So all of these

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<v Speaker 1>accidents put the men involved at serious risk. And all

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<v Speaker 1>in all, there were twenty one missions mounted by the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three And before we get to sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest one that they undertook, uh, do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do a quick word from a sponsor, let's do so.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest in what is arguably the most successful of

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty third missions was Operation Veerson, and this took

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<v Speaker 1>place near the war's end, relatively speaking, it wasn't right

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<v Speaker 1>at the end, but it was in March, and this

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<v Speaker 1>basically launched a big visible decoy mission to once again

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<v Speaker 1>cover the movements of other troops. While parts of the

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<v Speaker 1>Ninth Army were moving north to quietly cross the Rhine,

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty three was making a big show of pretending

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<v Speaker 1>to be those troops farther south. They masqueraded as the

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<v Speaker 1>ninth and ran practice and training maneuvers for a crossing

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<v Speaker 1>at person and just publicly enough to draw lots of attention.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was really a massive effort. So they set

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<v Speaker 1>up fake medical and engineering facilities. They had trucks and

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<v Speaker 1>sonic crews creating the illusion of convoys moving supplies. At

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<v Speaker 1>one point they were just having trucks loaded up where

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<v Speaker 1>they would be driving them back and forth, and they

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<v Speaker 1>would put two guys at the very back, so it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like it was full of troops, but in fact

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<v Speaker 1>there are only two guys at the back. They arranged

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<v Speaker 1>everything perfectly so that an aerial reconnaissance taking pictures would

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea that the entire thing was a hoax.

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<v Speaker 1>They one of the reasons that they used artists was

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<v Speaker 1>so they could conceptually visualize, like how things would look

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<v Speaker 1>from multiple angles, even when they didn't have those angles

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<v Speaker 1>available to them, So they really made this whole thing

0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:06.439
<v Speaker 1>beautifully realistic, even though it was in fact all a hoax.

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<v Speaker 1>When the real Ninth crossed the rhyme, the Germans were

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<v Speaker 1>taken totally by surprise. Those German troops that could resist

0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:18.879
<v Speaker 1>them were disorganized and unprepared, so US casualties were very few.

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<v Speaker 1>The twenty three received a commendation from the Ninth Army

0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:26.479
<v Speaker 1>Commander William Simpson for their effort. A later estimate by

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<v Speaker 1>Simpson placed the number of troops that were saved by

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<v Speaker 1>this deception at ten thousand UH and it ended up

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<v Speaker 1>being the last mission of the war, and in September

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<v Speaker 1>there was completely shut down. So one of the inherent

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<v Speaker 1>dangers of being in a ghost army designed to draw

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<v Speaker 1>attention is that it also draws fire. So it's easy

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<v Speaker 1>to think of all this pageantry and strategic slide of

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<v Speaker 1>hand is really fun and fascinating, but it really put

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<v Speaker 1>the men involved at great risk. At one point they

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<v Speaker 1>were actually set up in beastone and they actually missed

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<v Speaker 1>the start of the Battle of the Bulge by about

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<v Speaker 1>four hours. They had been pulled out around midnight of

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<v Speaker 1>December six, and this is as P and the fighting

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<v Speaker 1>started around four am. So had those men been trapped

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<v Speaker 1>there with their phony equipment, they would have been in

0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:25.399
<v Speaker 1>incredibly dire straits and unable to defend themselves. During the

0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Battle of the Bulge. The three returned to Luxembourg City,

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<v Speaker 1>where they had already spent a lot of time, and

0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:35.760
<v Speaker 1>fired from the rooftops at the incoming Liftwoffe aircraft. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the only time they ever really four real fired

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<v Speaker 1>at the enemy. Yeah, it was there one there one

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<v Speaker 1>time that they actually got to perform actual combat activities. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And the twenty three after that was very quickly moved

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<v Speaker 1>to Verdunn. So, in part, the Allies wanted to maintain

0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the secrecy of the Ghost Army, and in another part

0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.560
<v Speaker 1>they realized that this blow up dummy artillery was not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be you good in a fight, so they

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to clear them out. And the men ended

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<v Speaker 1>up spending Christmas in Verdune. While the group had been

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinarily lucky throughout their time, their luck finally ran out

0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:16.000
<v Speaker 1>in the spring of nine. On March twelfth, while impersonating

0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the eightieth Infantry, the twenty three drew German artillery fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Two of their men were killed in fifteen others were wounded.

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<v Speaker 1>This was really their worst day, in spite of having

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<v Speaker 1>been an incredibly dangerous areas many times as they kept

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<v Speaker 1>up false appearances all through the war. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the problems that comes up when discussing the twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>and their effectiveness and sort of assessing what they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to achieve lies in the fact that so much

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<v Speaker 1>of their work was secret, and often it fooled Allied

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<v Speaker 1>forces as well as the enemy. Like the Allied forces

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even really know what was going on with them

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the time, they thought they were just

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<v Speaker 1>another unit. After the war, most of the men stayed

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<v Speaker 1>quiet about the amaze sing works of deceptive are that

0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:04.800
<v Speaker 1>they had been part of. The work was classified, so

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<v Speaker 1>in the event that the US found itself at war again,

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<v Speaker 1>having a ghost army would be a really valuable asset,

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<v Speaker 1>So the military didn't want to tip its hand and

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<v Speaker 1>reveal this resource. But finally, in x SO, almost nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>years ago from when we're recording this, the work of

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty three was declassified, and the men who had

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<v Speaker 1>only been able to give KG answers to their families

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<v Speaker 1>about what they had done in the war were now

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<v Speaker 1>free to speak of their incredible efforts. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>truly significant aspects of the twenty three and the work

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<v Speaker 1>that they did is the fact that an entire division

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<v Speaker 1>of creative people was successfully managed within the structure of

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<v Speaker 1>the military. Yeah. This is one of those things that

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<v Speaker 1>people often go like, look, these were all artists and

0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.680
<v Speaker 1>they totally were able to work together in this this effort.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if that speaks to like their

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<v Speaker 1>level of commitment or independence. You know, It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things that often likes to get bandied about, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about modern business, like, oh, it's hard

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:03.600
<v Speaker 1>to manage creative people. It's like these guys managed and

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing some scary stuff. Yeah. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>also speaks to the like perpetual mythologizing of creative work

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<v Speaker 1>as some kind of extraordinary thing when in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of cases it is work. Yeah, which isn't to say that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>creative inspiration isn't really fabulous and cool and unique in

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<v Speaker 1>many ways. But I just I find that to be

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<v Speaker 1>a really interesting one that we do mythologize working with

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<v Speaker 1>creative types. And I say this as a creative person

0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:33.760
<v Speaker 1>married to an artist as well, Like, but then it

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<v Speaker 1>can be anybody can be managed, any sort of effort

0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:41.840
<v Speaker 1>that can be put together. It's it's all about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>using people's assets. And another really incredible legacy is the

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<v Speaker 1>artwork that a lot of these men were doing while

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<v Speaker 1>they were deployed. I'll talk a little bit more about

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<v Speaker 1>that in a minute. Yeah, it's really no surprise that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the men who were involved in effectively

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<v Speaker 1>doing art for the army went on to careers the arts.

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<v Speaker 1>So for example, Bill Blast of course went on spuilt

0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:07.679
<v Speaker 1>a fashion empire. He had actually been sketching women's clothing

0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 1>during the war. Yeah, there was one interview that I

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:14.399
<v Speaker 1>saw with one of the other members of the twenty

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:15.919
<v Speaker 1>third and he was saying, and I don't know if

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:18.440
<v Speaker 1>he was serious or not, that Bill Blast would read

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Vote magazine in foxholes, but I have no idea, but

0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I loved it. Art Kane, of course became a very

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<v Speaker 1>well known photographer. His photo entitled A Great Day in Harlem,

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:32.960
<v Speaker 1>which was taken in Night, featured fifty seven prominent jazz

0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:36.120
<v Speaker 1>musicians and it's still considered one of the most important

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 1>images of jazz history. And he also took a lot

0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 1>of incredible celebrity portraits, and he was the photographer for

0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>the one and only DeLorean magazine ad to ever run.

0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:47.879
<v Speaker 1>Ellsworth Kelly made a career as a painter and a

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<v Speaker 1>sculptor and became known for use of really bright color

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and very hard edges. Arthur Singer became an illustrator and

0:23:56.880 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 1>he really became known for his incredibly detailed bird illustrations.

0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:03.680
<v Speaker 1>So if you have ever looked at an illustrated birding

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:07.200
<v Speaker 1>field guide, uh, odds are really good that you've seen

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 1>as work, because it's been in everything. Jack Macy went

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:14.199
<v Speaker 1>on to design backdrops for the State Department. Eventually he

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:16.959
<v Speaker 1>designed the kitchen set that was used for the Nixon

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Cruise Chef debate of nineteen fifty nine. And there's a

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<v Speaker 1>really wonderful documentary called The Ghost Army that I highly

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<v Speaker 1>recommend for people that UH want to hear accounts from

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 1>some of the surviving members of the twenty three. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons I really loved it too is that,

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<v Speaker 1>uh it being a visual medium, they're able to show

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the artwork that these men were doing

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.920
<v Speaker 1>while they were in France and in performing all these

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:43.399
<v Speaker 1>amazing maneuvers. And one of the men says something like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we were in all these crazy circumstances, but

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:48.360
<v Speaker 1>we could always find time or a place to duck

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<v Speaker 1>away and do a quick watercolor, which I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just super termining, like they just were all artists at heart,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they were part of this amazing war effort.

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<v Speaker 1>And that documentary is as of this recording in early

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 1>is available on Netflix, and it's a little longer than

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<v Speaker 1>an hour, uh and you get to see a lot

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>of this really amazing art and just interviews with these guys,

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>and it deals a little bit more with with them

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:13.919
<v Speaker 1>as individuals rather than like what we've covered is so

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:17.119
<v Speaker 1>much of sort of the bigger, kind of broad strokes

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:19.399
<v Speaker 1>of the whole unit, but this really focuses on some

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>of the different men and has interviews with them that

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<v Speaker 1>are really quite charming and touching and really really entertaining.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So I highly recommend that and that is the

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Ghost Army, which is just such a The whole thing

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>is so cool, and I'm surprised even though it does

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<v Speaker 1>pop up sometimes in like uh, you know, listic goals online, Uh,

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 1>people don't really know about it. Like it's another one

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 1>of those things where I thought, Oh, everyone's heard about this,

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 1>We've had a few requests for it. But then when

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned it to people, they look at me like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're talking about. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>I say a few things, they get sort of this,

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<v Speaker 1>like agog really what. So clearly this is there's there's

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