WEBVTT - Nightcap Hour 2: Unc and Ocho react to Cam Newton’s response to Ryan Clark 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:03.200 Oh Joe, you think training camp stores would be the 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:06.560 biggest NFL topic of the day, But that's not true. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:11.320 Cam Newton responded to Ryan Clark. Listen to what Cam 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:12.080 had to say. 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:16.400 Hey, we want to attack the messenger, Ryan Clark. Okay, 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:18.799 let's pull up your stats. Second team all le sec. 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.320 We cannot relate. Undrafted in two thousand and two, we 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.240 cannot relate. Then you have one Pro Bowl in twenty 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:27.880 and eleven, we cannot relate. So if you want to 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.640 unlock petty Cam and everything that Cam Newton has ever 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:32.960 said on this fourth and one show has always been 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.240 backed by mayor and logic, but in some way shape form, 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.400 people keep attacking Cam the person, or why he didn't 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.400 jump on the fumble, why he didn't do this, or 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.480 comparing the contrast. And so when I compare the contrast, 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:50.000 you guys are statistics and Dan Oloski never mind. But 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.960 as we keep going and we keep unlocking and keep 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.200 poking the bear, and y'all want to play this game. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:08.160 Hey, hey, Ryan Clark and my brother Cam Newton. You 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.400 know I love y'all. I love y'all to death. Let's 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:13.640 keep it football. Let's keep a football. Let's Let's let's 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:16.520 stay away from the personal shots. Let's stay let's stay 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:17.680 away from the personal shots. 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:19.000 Like I look up to. 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:22.360 Y'all, especially in the spaces in which y'all dominate talking 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.800 the game of football. Ryan Clark, you're the iron stein 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.240 of this ship. You're the iron stein of this ship. 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.640 Cam Newton, when it comes to play in the quarterback position, 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:37.400 you are well equipped to be able to critique quarterbacks 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.759 in this NFL that are playing today. Regardless of whether 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:41.360 you want a super Bowl or not. You played at 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:45.480 a very high level. You're very successful at the position. Fellas, 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.840 Let's let's let's keep it clean. This ain't no boxing matches, 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:50.400 no need to get personal. It's no need to talk 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:52.720 about each other in any kind of way, shape, form, 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:56.360 or fashion. Everyone loves the drama, they love that part. 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:59.320 Let's keep it all about football. It's okay to have 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:00.360 the difference in the opinion. 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:01.400 That's fine. 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:06.920 Yes, that's Cam's opinion, though I don't agree with it. Yeah, 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.160 that's his opinion. Yeah, I'm never gonna talk about what 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:11.480 someone did or didn't do. 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:13.080 Look, we all had our time. 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.839 Whatever Shannon didn't do, whatever Ryan didn't do, whatever Cam 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.480 didn't do, whatever Ocho didn't do, ain't nothing we can 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.320 do about it now, because ain't nobody going back out 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.639 there to get one more tackle, getting one more fumber recovery, 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:29.080 catching a touchdown, getting another yard. There's nothing else we 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.120 can do. I agree with you, Ojo, And sometimes we 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.200 do get carried away. What we do is that we 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.959 don't like the message, so we try to destroy the messenger. 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:38.480 Messenger. 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:44.200 Yeah, okay, excuse me. Ryan didn't agree with what Cam said. 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:47.320 That's Cam's opinion. Cam looks at it's like, look, I'm 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.280 looking at it, and he has save quality, has two 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:52.120 top five receivers, he has a very good tight end player, 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.600 the best offensive line in football, and plays backed up 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.720 by an outstanding defense. My only retort is there have 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.920 been a lot of quarterbacks that had that, Yes, sir, 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:02.839 and we never used that against him. 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:04.320 But that's Cam's opinion. 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:09.600 Yes, Cam, he had more, he had and has more 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:14.600 to work with than you. But we can't diminish him 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.200 because he has that. You don't believe because you said 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.320 he has all these auxiliary these you know he has 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.400 the latest and greatest, he has, he has Apple, You 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.160 know he has all this stuff. When we you know, 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:27.600 what I'm saying, Oh, Joe, we had the big we 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.080 had the big brick phone, we had the motoroller, we 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.000 had the little bag that we had to carry around 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.600 and and it was three dollars a minute. And then 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.360 you had the roam in charge. So if you left 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.760 the area, it was that thing was roman. Yes, sir, 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:47.080 I hate when it gets like this, uh, because I 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.600 believe I believe Ryan could make his point. I believe 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.000 Cam could make his point. 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.480 I don't listen listen, I will say this. 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:59.360 I will say this with Ryan and Cam doing that 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:03.280 is in a taw that is pure entertainment. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:08.600 It's great. It's awesome, especially for the platforms. 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.400 With Yeah, if you're trying to grow your platforms, yeah. 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:12.680 But then know they don't need to grow. 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:13.320 They growing. 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.920 They're gonna go regardless based on the individuals. What the 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.120 Pivot is doing awesome, What fourth and one is doing 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.440 is awesome. So what I saw from them from from 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:23.200 Ryan the other day. 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.800 And let me ask you a question, if you under 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:27.960 your logic, what do you what do you think the 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.400 most view topic ills? What do you think Cam's most 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:32.920 view topic iills what he had talked about or the 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:33.800 Ryan Clark. 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:34.679 Probably gonna be this one. 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:36.680 Okay, So what do you the pivot? What you think 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:38.440 that most viewed things gonna. 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:39.960 Be whenever Ryan Fire is back? 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:40.880 Thank you? 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:42.839 Okay? 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.839 I mean at what being you? What I try to 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.479 get you to do, in us to do is that 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:49.400 we stay away from that. 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.520 Yeah, you know, I tell you to stay away from that. 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.760 I'm listening what you be, Stay away from it, stay 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:56.920 away from. 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:57.320 I'm on the fence. 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:58.320 I'm always on. 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.640 The listen, listen at times. 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:05.039 At times there comes when you have to, we have 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.600 to say your peace. You gotta stand on. We just 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:10.520 gonna have anybody saying on any old thing. 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:14.200 Man. We can't do that, but I would. I would never. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:18.600 I would never, And I want them as fun as 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.960 it may be, being able to pee at each other 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.520 for wrongdoings and that there's certain things that happened that 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:25.719 you can't change in the past. 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.480 You just can't. I don't want them. 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.600 Taking the personal shots at each other. I don't like that. 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:33.719 Let's keep it football, keep the topics football, and both 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:35.760 of both of them are well versed enough in the 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.559 sport itself. We don't have to go the other route. 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.480 They probably haven't me anyway, But they're gonna do what 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:42.960 they want to do. 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:44.360 But still that's just my. 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:45.960 But that's that's how it is. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:52.080 Your most embarrassing moment is probably what you're going to 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.040 be mostly remembered for. They don't talk about Cam winning 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.280 the m v P. They don't talk about Cam winning 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.680 the Heisman. They don't tackle about Cam. Think about it. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.320 Look at this team that won the Heisman Trophy. You 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:07.479 tell me a team that had fewer NFL guys surrounding 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.240 him that what Cam Newton team did when he won 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:15.279 a national championship. I defied in the last twenty five years. 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.760 Showed me a team that won a national championship that 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:25.160 had fewer NFL players than what Cam Auburn team m H. 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.080 I don't think he had a lineman to play. 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.239 I think I think he might have had a receiver 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.039 that played, had a cup of coffee he had, I 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:32.400 think a. 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.440 Defensive player to play he didn't have. 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:37.960 And and I like, I said, go just go back 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:42.040 and look and see what Cam did. Look, I know 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.960 and Joe had outstanding numbers. And there have been other guys. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.359 You look at a tour won a national championship. There 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.560 have been some guys that won national championship. What's the 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:55.200 guy Matt Jones and and and and last year? But 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.280 you look at that Auburn team and you tell me 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.800 they should have won a national championship with that few 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:00.719 NFL talent. 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:01.479 Mm hm. 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:07.960 So Cam has been great, Yeah, he's been great. 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:09.000 Away from him, I mean. 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.360 But that's when he is looking at it, o Jo. 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.880 It's kind of like you look at a receiver and 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.440 you say it, and you say, well, I like this 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:19.760 receiver X y and z. 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:21.720 Mm hmm. 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:27.280 People gonna find fault, Well, why didn't you pick this guy? Well? Uh, 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.480 if you take it serious and stops a word about celebrations, 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:32.400 ain't no telling what you could have done. You see, 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.920 they're gonna nit picked because they don't like that you're 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.840 getting on somebody that they like. So what they try 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.640 to do is try to destroy the messenger. It's not 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:44.720 the message, it's the messenger. So if I like the message, 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:50.080 if I like the messenger, I'll receive the message. If 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:54.120 I don't like the message messenger, I won't receive the message. 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.880 And if I and guess what and the message, you 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:00.840 know what, now I'm trying to get it. I allow 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:01.880 don't like who gave it to me. 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:06.640 Yeah, I mean that's that's that's unfortunate. That's unfortunate. 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:15.160 Hey, hey whatever, teddy Bear, Okay, teddy Bear, they all 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:20.920 look the same now, Teddy Bear, you on camera, twin. 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.480 He laid it down. Hopefully he'll he'll stay there. 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:30.600 Yeah, it's tough, o Joe, because look, it's gotten to 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.360 the point that people don't want us to do our job. 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:36.840 Oyo. And I think the thing is is that more 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:38.800 people like us do this. Now. 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:40.520 There used to be a tired There was only a 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.600 handful of guys that did this. If you weren't on CBS, 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.000 if you weren't on ESPN, you didn't have an opinion, 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.840 if you hadn't retired, because you didn't have a platform 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:53.000 to share it, if you weren't on those platforms. Now 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.320 there are more guys like you and myself that have 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.920 platforms that are able to share their opinion. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:00.880 See, it used to be. 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.959 Hey, you ask you wanted guys that have played the game, 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:10.520 because before, Ojoe, when you when I played you played before, Well, 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.680 he ain't played the game, so how does he know. 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.480 Now you get guys play the game. Now you get 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:17.600 guys play the game at. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:18.200 A high level. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:18.679 Level. 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.000 Now, what's the excuse you try the midpick where you 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:24.839 didn't win anything. Well, hell, I don't want everybody to win, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.480 because if everybody won, that the value is winning. That 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:32.199 should be a premium on winning winning championships, winning conference, 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:36.520 winning the division, winning MVP. If everybody does those things? Oyo, 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:38.000 what is the value in that? 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:39.440 And hold on? 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:43.240 Wait, also where's the value? Sometimes it just happen to 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:44.679 be part of a team that actually won it. He 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:48.119 didn't even do nothing. Yes, it's true, as an asterisk, 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.640 sometimes value and yeah, all that winning? 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.720 Oh I got a ring? Well yeah you gotta ring? 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.280 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, all rings aren't created equal. Let's 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.040 let's just start with that and we understand that. But 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.000 I'm not Look, I've been very fortunate to be on 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.439 shows with a lot of guys, and you know, I'm 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:10.040 very fortunate that I won at a high level. I 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.800 won championships, you know, I you know, went to the 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.079 Pro Bowl with all pro and I got a gold jacket. 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:20.240 But it's not like I wear it. I don't wear 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:20.720 the rings. 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.400 That's not I honestly, Oh hoe, I try to give 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:28.440 my honest opinion. I understand what it takes to play 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.199 this game at a high level, and it's not easy 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.720 to be consistent, especially when they know you're the guy 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.000 and they game plan for you, and you still have 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:42.000 to find ways to make plays and make your presence felt. 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.240 But people killed me all the time. I was like, Okay, 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.160 I'm not saying the guy is bad. 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.960 I got to take one, and it's easy to say 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:52.280 I would take both of them. 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.040 Hell, anybody can do that. That's not why they pay. 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:56.960 You money to get your ass on TV to say 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:58.280 I like to have them both. 0:10:58.800 --> 0:10:59.360 Pick one. 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.960 Oh, I got thatt at your opinion. I got better 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:04.240 at that. I got better at that. 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:07.240 You you absolutely have, but you aren't. But oh yo, 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.000 they understand that you have a job to do. It's 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:14.400 not like you disliked one. You're saying based on me 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:18.000 playing in this league for over a decade, me playing 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.680 at the level in which I played, watching their games, 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.120 I think this guy is a little better. But see, 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.160 people don't hear that. People saying, well, you like him, 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.840 you hate that? Oh jo oh yo like man goals? 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:36.480 Man oh yo hate bananas, he hates oranges, he hates watermelon. No, bro, 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.800 I said I like man goals. I didn't say anything 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:39.440 about hating. 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.160 Yeah, I've been listen and for me, but I've gotten 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.880 very savvy at which I've which I've been very good at, 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:50.720 and is is my delivery. It's not what it's not 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.000 what I say, is how I say it? Yes, I 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.439 mastered that a little bit to to soften the blow. 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:59.160 Because our players during this era, during this day, they're 0:11:59.160 --> 0:11:59.920 they're they're very. 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:01.160 Sense the bumpy SI. 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:05.640 They are how to navigate in saying things the right 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.680 way where there's not offensive to them. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:10.880 Now now this year, now that. 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.160 I'm I'm, I'm, I'm, I got my feet wet, so 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.800 I understand. Now I'm gonna be a little bit more 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.240 upfront with people when it when it doesn't look like 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:19.920 it should. 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:26.320 Look you should Yeah, oh Joe, I mean, look, it's 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.839 not like you're bump. Because they said they wanted people 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:32.680 to play the game to getique the game. Okay, we're 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.760 giving them guys that played at an extremely high level 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:42.640 to critique the game. Yes, But what happens is they 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.280 know they can't run no bull jive on us because 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.480 we did play the game for an extremely long time 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:49.400 and we did play at a high level. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:51.480 So now what are they gonna say? 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:53.400 Right, you're right. 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.920 Oh man, o Joe, you didn't win, No, okay you No, 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:58.600 I did not win at a high level. 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.400 But just because I did win, that means I wasn't 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.120 to mean I wasn't player. 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:07.520 Hold on, now, I ain't with no ring, but I won. 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.199 Well I'm saying that's what see, that's what they're looking at. 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.120 Well you, I mean Cincinnati. But here's the thing though, 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.440 O Yo, you went. 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:16.959 The Pro Bowl. 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.680 You an All Pro, so somebody had to vote on 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:20.320 those awards. 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:22.400 They thought enough, they thought enough of you to put 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.600 in your ass on why they thought enough of you 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:26.520 to be an All Pro? 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:30.000 And I led to AFC four years in a row, 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:34.320 and y'all all while talking shit while they were game 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:35.040 planning for me. 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:35.960 That was me. 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.760 But you know what has happened on with yo, It 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:41.680 doesn't matter how many great things you say. 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.840 They only heard the bad. Yeah, yeah, they only hear 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.080 the bad. Bro. 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.240 I'm not saying you're a bad person. I'm saying you 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.840 had a bad game. I'm saying you had a bad stretch. 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:53.200 So am I not? 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.360 Am I not allowed to say what I see? Right? 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:02.760 People don't understand under stands that X has a job 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.960 to do. He's doing his job. He's not talking about 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.839 me as a individual. He's talking about me. 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.319 The player and my play on the field. 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:15.000 You need to be able to differentiate between you the player, 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.880 and you, the off the field person. 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:19.800 I'm talking about. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:24.360 I'm critiquing your play, drop pass, this lack of effort, 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:29.160 terrible route, things of that nature, getting blocked, not getting 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:33.120 off the block, poor technique in the backfields, staring at 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.840 the quarterback too long as opposed to the guy that's 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.080 running the route. That's what we're talking about. We're not 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.400 talking about you as a individual. We're talking about you 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:42.960 the player. 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.400 Right. I mean I and look I get it. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:53.040 I cam ain't gonna let nothing slide. Uh, cam ain't 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.440 gona let nothing slide. So y'all come for Cam. Y'all 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:59.760 already know duck cause the grenad coming back. He's gonna 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:01.280 pick up and throw it. He gonna pick it up 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:01.800 and throw it back. 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.160 Hold on, hold on right, Ryan on, fire back man. 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:06.240 Yeah, yeah yeah yeah right, rang. 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:06.960 On fire back man. 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.440 So this is this is probably going this is going 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:14.000 to be to be an ongoing, an ongoing few, which 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:15.000 is which is entertaining. 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:16.960 This is great, This is great, entertainment. 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:18.560 This is great for the pivot, is great for fourth 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.680 and one, It's great for all parties involved. Listen me, 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.160 I'm on the sideline. Enjoin it and tell him. Y'all 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.560 go to your corners, go to your respective corners. Right, 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:30.480 people about football trade never started. 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:35.120 Yes, because Cam is looking at it is that he 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.960 was asked to do more. Right, because he didn't have 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.880 a running back like Saquon, He didn't have an offensive 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.520 line what they have, and he didn't have two receivers 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:48.960 like Davonte Aj. Yes, he Cam, you were asked to 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:53.080 do more. But because you were asked to do more, 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.800 that doesn't mean Jalen isn't a good. 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:56.720 Quarterback, right. 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:58.760 I mean he's a top. 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.200 Ten Now, if you want to say he's five, ok, five, 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:05.400 we can debate that, but a top ten quarterback I can't. 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.080 I can't. I can't jibe with that one. 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.480 I mean, listen what I said it before, when we 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.800 talked about it the other night. What Jalen Hurts is 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:15.640 asked to do for the Philadelphia Eagles, he does extremely well. 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:20.040 What Jalen Hurst is asked to do within the confines 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:24.600 of that offense, he does extremely well. People complain well, 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:25.280 and I said it. 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:25.680 I said it. 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:29.800 On the way they play offensively, it's not aesthetically pleasing 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:34.480 He Lamar Jackson numbers. He's not putting up Baker Mayfield numbers. 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.280 He's not putting up Joe Burrow numbers. That's not the 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.120 way that offensive scheme works. It's not the way it 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:41.200 works if you. 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.240 Do realize it's hard to play the way he plays 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.600 because he has to check his ego because he makes 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.160 fifty million dollars a year. And now I've got to 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:51.880 swallow my ego because I know people on talk radio 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.440 and I know people on television. It's gonna say Jalen 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.640 Hurts couldn't do it. And look, my thing was, I 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.920 was saying, he's gonna have to play better than what 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.360 he's playing. He was turning the ball over at an 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:05.199 alarming rate. He was, and they were and he was 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.320 playing bad. You look at the postseason when it hit, 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.960 he played better than in any point in time. 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:15.359 Yes, and that's okay, But to say I grade game 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:15.840 the game. 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.439 And that's what you love about sports, right because you 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.920 get to update your resume each individual every week. 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:21.400 Every week. 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.320 It's not like a res like, oh your my resume good, 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.800 they say, update your resume every six months. 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.600 And the real work for us. But that's not how 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:29.720 it is in pro sports. 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:33.720 You update your resume every single week if you play 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.320 a weekly sport. Now, if you play basketball, you updated 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.240 not more fo every night. Yeah, you play baseball. It's 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:43.960 the same thing. You understand that. But people that like, 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.119 oh you said pro I got a new set of facts. 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:48.440 M h. 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:50.000 Yeah. 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.239 So when Jayala, So, when Jalen Hurst was throwing for 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.920 one hundred yards? Did it look like did he look 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.240 like what he looked like in the Super Bowl? Did 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:00.320 it look like what he looked like in the NFC 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:01.120 Championship game? 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:01.920 No? 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:06.560 Come on, now, y'all want to hold Oh oh he's playing. Yes, 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:10.359 he played better. When he played better, we spoke better 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:10.840 about it. 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.200 Yeah. 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:16.200 Hey, hey, when everybody goes in training camp, right, every 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.280 team has two teams that reported this week on the 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.479 twenty second, on the nineteenth, whatever may be in What 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.720 is the end goal for every team that went the 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:23.640 training camp this week? 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:24.760 Uh? 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.879 They they they say super Bowl? Some of them fooling theirself. 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:30.080 Some of them know, damn where they ain't got no 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:33.560 chance to win the super Bowl. But lie sometimes though, Joe, 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:35.159 you got back, Coach say I got you got a 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.440 lot to them, But coach College go say hey home, 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:38.800 sometimes I got a lot of y'all. 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:39.840 Hey. 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:41.960 The Philadelphia Eagles. 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:43.439 Oh theyman. 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.800 Chance absolutely give him a chance to go back again 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:50.239 exists with the exact quarterback that Ryan and Kim are 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:50.680