1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: It's Elizabeth Dutton, it's Zaren Burnett. See I said that 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: millennial style button. God, that drives me nuts. I know, 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: I don't know why that drives you nuts. 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 3: Language changes, it does, it changes, and I say things 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: poorly all the time. Yeah, I just like to feel superior. 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: I got a question for you, miss superior. Ridiculous. 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 3: I do what a story that was contained within an 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: email that we received. It was forwarded onto me. It's 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 3: not enough for an episode or a shorty, but I'll 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: read the email itself is phenomenal. Okay, So this is 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 3: from Emily Burdet, Dear Ridiculous Crime Team, Elizabeth Dutton, Zaren Burnett, 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: which ps is spelled correctly. 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: Nice job, Burdett. 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: She did a good job on that one, because you 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: know there are a lot of new spellings of your name. 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: This is true. 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's z A R O N is how you 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: spell zeren anyway, Producer d four legged free interns, esteemed 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: guests and judges. I don't know why that just sent 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: me like that. You want to know what's ridiculous? Being 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: pulled over by the cops. 23 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: On a mule yes, that's good. 24 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: Start love it already. I've lived most of my life 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: in a small town in western Kentucky and probably no 26 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 3: more than around fifteen thousand people, which I don't feel 27 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: like is a small town, but I guess a small 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: college town pretty sleepy most of the time. So when 29 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: one of our local kooks got pulled over while riding 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 3: a mule drunk down one of the main drags, it 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: became part of town more, especially when he tried to 32 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: evade capture by fleeing on the mule. Yeah, he followed 33 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: up this barebacked dui with another equally ridiculous and more 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: dangerous crime. Now I need to pause because it's like, 35 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: legitimately one of the funniest things I've ever heard coming up. 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: Letting loose a rabid raccoon into a bar that he 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: had been banned from. 38 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: That's just revenge. 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: How do you source a rabbit? 40 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: Reccoon? Rabbit figured out this one's rat foam around the mouth. 41 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: Everyone in the bar is safe and without rabies. Promise. 42 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: It's not a one percenter love that, but it's added 43 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: significantly to the stories I get to tell about my 44 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: hometown while I'm away at college. Though he is not 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: a figure to be admired because of his reckless abandon 46 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: and mistreatment of animals. Cowboy Cody, Yes, is one of 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: the first figures I mentioned when people ask what Western Kentucky. 48 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 2: Is like, Well, you gotta hear about cowboy cooking, Cowboy. 49 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 3: Good plus the look on his face and as many 50 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 3: mugshots never fails to make me giggles. See for yourself. 51 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: Links blow. We'll have those put up on the Instagram stories. 52 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: I love Cowboy Code. 53 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: Thanks for the laughs and always keeping things lights stay ridiculous, y'all. Emily, Emily, Emily, 54 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 3: You've made my day week. 55 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: I wish you could see the grin you generated. 56 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: Elizabeth the rat When I got to the Rabid Raccoon 57 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: part is when I just lost my crackers. 58 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I laugh. If I was in that bar, 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: you would have had to knock me off the ceiling 60 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: because babies, Yeah, fingers deep in the ceiling, clutching at 61 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 2: the roof. 62 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: I would just be like time out, everyone. I have 63 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: so many questions. Do you have raccoons already that you 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 3: went and got Cody? Or like, were you just you 65 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: got kicked out of the bar. You're feeling low, You're 66 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 3: eighty six and you look over and there's a rab 67 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: raccoon in a dumpster like drooling. You try and give 68 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: him a bottle of water. He's like, no, no, I 69 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: don't do that. Oh he's rabbit. 70 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: Maybe he was spent like a week or two just 71 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: constantly on the lookout for a rabid raccoon. 72 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: Did Cody have rabies and bite the racords? 73 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: He gave it to the. 74 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: Sarah and I have so many questions. 75 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: I can see you know. 76 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: It is, and therefore, in summary, it's ridiculous. 77 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: I got one for you. 78 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: Yes, a second, I have all the seconds in the world. 79 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: Back down. You ever heard of wig jacking? 80 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: Wig jacking? 81 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah, you're in for a treat. I'm so excited. 82 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers. 83 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: Heis and cons It's all weighs ninety nine percent murder 84 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 2: free and one percent ridiculous. Oh, Elizabeth, Today's story falls 85 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: a little bit of a circuitous path. So I'm going 86 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: to love that. Yeah, I'm just I was reading about crimes, 87 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: you know, as we do, and this rabbit hole took 88 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: me to Johannesburg, South Africa, and I wound up reading 89 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: about wig hole in pre revolutionary France. Wig holes, wig holes, 90 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: it's a whole thing. So I went from Johannesburg to 91 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: wig holes in pre revolutionary France. You ever heard of 92 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: a wig hole? 93 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: No, that's why I said it with this question to 94 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: it get more questions. 95 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: Like I said today, you're in for retreat. Okay, so 96 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: where do we start. Let me just retrace the steps 97 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: of my rab Yeah, I know you do. So let's 98 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: jump on over to Johannesburg, South Africa. 99 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: Jay Burg some people call it, Yes, that's right. 100 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 2: I heard that the scene of today's first crime. There's 101 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: a Zimbabwean cat named Mutsa Madonco and he was in 102 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 2: Jayburg at a dance club. Things were going well. He 103 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: was moving it, grooving it, doing his thing. Yeah, and 104 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: then he bounces out of the night club. He hits 105 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: the streets Jayburg late night style, and that's where he 106 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: found he was a target for crime. Ye, Elizabeth, the 107 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: thief saw my man Mutsa Madonco. They clocked him as 108 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: having value that he couldn't defend, so they rushed up 109 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: on him demanded he give over what they were After 110 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: they pulled out nice watch scissors and told him to 111 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: hold real still, and then they cut off his ten 112 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: years of dreadlocks. 113 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: Oh no, they sapped his life for us totally. 114 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: They took it mojo. 115 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 116 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: So, as the BBC reported, when these hairjackers struck, there's 117 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: little like what folks can do to defend their locks. 118 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: Like another man who was robbed of his dreads told 119 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: the BBC quote, I didn't go to the police because 120 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: I didn't think they could do anything about it. I 121 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: just don't believe the police would follow up on a 122 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: case about missing hair, which is. 123 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: These must have been really nice dreads, not rasky like. 124 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, these are just like some like real. 125 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: Like Salon dreads. 126 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: Be proud of them. Yeah. So, another former dreadlock man, 127 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: Jack Mesico, said he experienced the same thing. He was 128 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: out alone in Jayburg. Three men came up on him. 129 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: They told him to hand over his cell phone. Then 130 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: they told him to hold real still. Twenty eight year 131 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: old told the BBC quote, they had a knife and 132 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: they cut off my hair with scissors. I still feel 133 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: pain when I think about that night. Right, And if 134 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: you're wondering why would someone want to steal dreadlocks. 135 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: Adam durrets to sell them to. 136 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: Him exactly, so it's not on does he really. 137 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: Well he used to. Yeah, he looks like, I don't 138 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: know if I'm making that up. I feel like I'm not, 139 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: but I could be. 140 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: That's either way. I like it whatever. 141 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: It's my truth right. 142 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: Now, expression truth. I will support it now if you 143 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: were wondering, like, you know, like why they want to 144 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: steal them, it's not for some weird religious ceremony or like, 145 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: it's not like a you know, it's just it's pure 146 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: old fashioned black market fashion. Yeah. Turns out on the 147 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: streets of joe Burg there are these outdoor salons. They're 148 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: just they're basically just plastic joe Burg not er. Yeah, Joe, 149 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: I said, some people say that I think you do 150 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: your people. 151 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,119 Speaker 3: I don't know anything. I know nothing about nothing. 152 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: So imagine like an outdoor salon like on the like 153 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: like the island between the two sides of the boulevard. 154 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: You know, they have a treaty the Median the Median Strip. 155 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: There you go salon in the Median in the Median Strip. 156 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: You imagine plastic chairs or range right in a row 157 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: of like three or four and there's like a hair 158 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: dresser working in the fresh air at these salons, and 159 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: that's where folks get dreadlocks sewn onto their heads. 160 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: Oh, it's like when people go to sandals and they 161 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: get the braid or like fabric woven and like feelings. 162 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly so, as Jack Mesico said, I used to 163 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: see people selling dreadlocks on the street, and I didn't 164 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: know where it came from. Now he knows. 165 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: Now it takes a long time, oh, Gruss, as you. 166 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: Well know totally. I've had dreads a few times, and 167 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: it takes years to get it down to a point 168 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: where someone want to come and steal it. And he 169 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: also figured out that his former hair was likely sewn 170 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: onto some stranger's head. Now somebody used to have dreadlocks. 171 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 2: I cannot imagine my hair being sewn onto someone else's head. 172 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: That's just so weird. But these black market hairdressers, they 173 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: use crochet needles and they sow the dreads onto the air. 174 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: Just like any other extension. 175 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: Would you ever wear some mu's dreadlocks on your head. 176 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: I wouldn't wear anyone else's hair on my head, so. 177 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: You wouldn't have any of the extensions. Now, no real 178 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: Indian hair for you. 179 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 3: No, here's the thing, Like, I don't do well with 180 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: stuff like fake eyelashes or fake nails because I just 181 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: feel it on all the time. Oh and I so 182 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: if I had something stitched into my hair, Like I 183 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: like to be able to scratch my sculle, I don't 184 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: have to hit it with my open pald. I want 185 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 3: to not that I have an itchy scrull. You know 186 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 3: what I mean? Though, I just don't like I don't 187 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: like stuff on me. 188 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's just me. Yeah, you get uncomfortable with. 189 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: It, like a full face and makeup. 190 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't like this. I can feel it floating 191 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 2: on the skin. 192 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. I like to look like the troll that just 193 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: came out from under the bridge. That's natural. 194 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: That's that's your natural, that's my natural. 195 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 5: Look. 196 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: I know you care about these things. So I found 197 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: the cost of stolen. 198 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: Dr Yeah, I do care about these things. 199 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: Super cheap shoulder link dreads. You can buy them off 200 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 2: the black market and joe Berg for two hundred to 201 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: two thousand rand depending on quality and length. Okay, now 202 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: I know you're like, well, Zarin, I don't know how, 203 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 2: I know nothing. I got a conversion for you two 204 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: hundred ran. That's about eleven dollars and twenty five cents 205 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: stock American. Yeah, two thousand rand is about one hundred 206 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,599 Speaker 2: and twelve dollars Americas. Between eleven and one hundred and 207 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: twelve dollars you can get. 208 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, is that the cost of the hair or 209 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: hair plus installation? 210 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: The cost of the hair? I think another installation, Maybe 211 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: not that twenty bucks. 212 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: Maybe just get a hot glow wow. 213 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. So that brings us to the topic of today, 214 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: the price of faking it. So where there's dreads are 215 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: like insane architectural wigs of pre revolutionary seventeen seventies air 216 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: of France, there are a whole subgenres of crime born 217 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: of people's desire to have good hair. Oh yeah, genres 218 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: of crime, Elizabeth, and that is patently ridiculous. That's how 219 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: I found the story I came here to tell you today. Okay, 220 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: now that he's got it all set it up, let's get 221 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: into it. Let's talk wigjackers wigjacket. Now, if you had 222 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: to guess, what do you think of when I say 223 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: wig jacks? Like someone, you got it. A wigjacker is 224 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 2: the same thing as a booth watched bandit. It's the 225 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: same thing as a hair thief. It's Elizabeth. We need 226 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 2: to travel back in time to an era of luxury 227 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,359 Speaker 2: and decadence to truly appreciate the era of the wigjacker, 228 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: the days of King Louis the fourteenth aka the Sun King. 229 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: You're smart, you're well educated, so I won't bore you 230 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: with all the rundown of who the Son King was, 231 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: what he did for France and Europe and the land 232 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: they dubbed the New World. But I will feel like 233 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: I do need to mention just three things about King 234 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 2: Louis the fourteenth. Number one, he is the longest reigning 235 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: monarch of any monarch in the history of kings and 236 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: queens and kaisers and czars and caesars. Really, he reigned 237 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: over France for seventy two years from sixteen forty three 238 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: to seventeen fifteen, which means he ever saw the vast 239 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: expansion of the French colonial empire. He's the one right 240 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: in the creation of the idea of the absolute monarch 241 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: over France. That's him too. They called him the Sun 242 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: King for a reason. Like the Son he was always 243 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: there like every day, same for you as it was 244 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: for your father and your grandfather. He was the king. 245 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: That's nuts back then, it is so. Number two, he 246 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: created the French Baroque school of art. All they opulent, 247 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: the decoration. Yeah, you know, he created the Palace of 248 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: Versailles and as a luxurious playground in the court of 249 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 2: the French king. As also being the absolute ruler, he 250 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: was the one who barely created the idea of enjoying 251 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 2: the pleasures of being king. As mel Brooks once said, 252 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: it's good to be the king. That's him too, right. 253 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: Number three, it was due to King Louis the fourteenth 254 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: that wigs become a thing in Europe. He's the reason 255 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 2: that our founding fathers in America war powdered wigs. They 256 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: wore them because the Brits warm, and the Brids wore 257 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: them because he wore them. So the powdered wigs. They 258 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: were just trying to be as cool as the French, right, 259 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: because everyone knew the French had the world's fashion. Oh 260 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: it's back then, you know, they were the lingua franca 261 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 2: of fashion as well. Now this, as I said, this 262 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: all traces back to King Louis the fourteenth. Every wig 263 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: you see on a head today it's like, oh, I'm 264 00:12:54,880 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 2: a jurist, I'm a lawyer, I'm a judge wig. Yes, 265 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: they a non diva wig, a church wig no, yeah, 266 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: non church wigs yeah, non, Like I'm going out to 267 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: the club now, Elizabeth. You know why King Louis was 268 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: such a huge fan of the big hair, don't care lifestyle. 269 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 3: I would imagine. I mean, if you're thinking of a 270 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: baroque it's just opulent piles on piles. 271 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: There's that. There's definitely that. That's more about the styling. 272 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: The reason why he was so into wigs was syphilis. Well, 273 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: you know, the king had crotch rot just like al Capone. 274 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: The Sun King had the scythe Okay, so one of 275 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: the side effects of syphilis is that you lose your 276 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: hair in cold long life. Yeah, there's something also horrendous 277 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 2: called weeping sores that appear on the scalp. So that's 278 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: all disgusting, right, So since he's the Sun King and 279 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: he can't have a patchy scalp with weeping sores, something 280 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: had to be done. So since it's syphilis, which means 281 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: they couldn't cure it at the time, you just had 282 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: to deal with it. So that meant, how do we 283 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: hide the effects of syphilis. Sun King's like, see, I 284 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: got to I got the answer. I'm gonna need a 285 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: wig make So that's why he started to wear these 286 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: huge flowing wigs, which he made his look. That was 287 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: his thing. Everyone's like, man, that's dope. And because they 288 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: hadn't seen this since ancient Rome people wearing these types 289 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: of crazy hairs, so it seemed to call back to 290 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: a more glorious time. Meanwhile, Stall just to hide the 291 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: side of his patchy scalp and his crying lesions Richard 292 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: dead giveaways that the king had syphilis. So wigs, it 293 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: is what all this means is for centuries, men and 294 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: women around the world have worn wigs because the King 295 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: of France had syphilis. 296 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: Well, it's good that he didn't do like bucket hats. 297 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: Because then like the judges in like London and Hong Kong, 298 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: bucket has because you can find by the way, you 299 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: can find people in wigs in London, Toronto, Hong Kong, 300 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: acra God like Joe Burg. Anywhere there was the British Empire, 301 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: powdered wigs is still being rocked in the courtrooms right now. 302 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: They may think they look cute, but it's wild. That's 303 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: because the sun King liked to get down anyway. So 304 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: the sun King starts rocking wigs. That changes their meaning, 305 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: their value, their status. And as I said, not since 306 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: ancient Rome had this been So all of a sudden 307 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: we get this. Oh it's luxurious, Oh it's classical. Oh 308 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: it's decade, and oh it's the king. It's all these 309 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: things people aspire to ye So boom, suddenly the millennial later, 310 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: wigs are the thing again. Right, the trend spreads quickly 311 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: because whatever France did, this becomes a style of the day. 312 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: Suddenly anyone who's anyone in London they want to wig. 313 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: Anyone in Berlin they want a wig because that's what 314 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: the ladies and gentlemen in Peri. 315 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: That's today. Paris street style still does. 316 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: The same thing, totally true. 317 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: Like when you see all of them gals walking around 318 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: in trench coats. 319 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: Because you saw it in Paris first. 320 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 3: They all look like Colombo. 321 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: You call them columbos too. In versides the sunking out 322 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: a whole team of wig makers and they were working 323 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: around the clock, seven days a week. Crank had pieces exactly. 324 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: He called it his Cabinet de Wigs. There were forty 325 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: eight of the finest wig makers of all of France. 326 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: And what a job now not to be outdone by 327 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: all of this, right, this whole industry that's being created. 328 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: King Charles the Second of England he also becomes known 329 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: for his wig game, and he is literal like the 330 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: colle league of the same. He's a monarch at the 331 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: exact same time. Yeah, so he's known to enjoy the 332 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: pleasures of being King two. So this means war of 333 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: the wigs between the two kings got the doper wig game. 334 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: And rumor has it though King Charles the Second he 335 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: liked to get down too, because he fathered school rooms 336 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: of illegitimate children. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Unsurprisingly, when King 337 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: Charles the Second died at age fifty four, it was 338 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: discovered he had a raging cases syphilis. 339 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 5: Two. 340 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: So, just like the son King of France, that seems 341 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: why they had that shared love of wigs. They were 342 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: both doing the whole. 343 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: Both covering up their using cats exactly. 344 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: But anyway, by this point the trend is set on 345 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: both sides of the channel, and it's good now because 346 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: of them doing you know, expansion into the new world boom. 347 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: It shows up in America too, So these these flandering 348 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: kings are now they become the symbol of wealth, luxury, status. Right, 349 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: so the whole world over, because this is right at 350 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: the age of exploration to starts spreading, spreading. You see 351 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: it in Africa, you see it in the Americas. Right. 352 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: The wigs are spreading like cephilis exactly. So it spreads 353 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: from kings and queens to their cordiers, to the aristocrats. 354 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: From there it filters down to the aspiring wealthy, the 355 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: middle class, merchants, shopkeepers, on and on, until finally preachers 356 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: and doctors are wearing wigs while they're working. Yeah, so 357 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 2: everybody's got a wig now. So the demand for wigs 358 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: is so great. By sixteen fifty six, there's something called 359 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 2: the First Corporation of Barbers and wig Makers that's founded 360 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: in Paris. Right, this demand, it grows. Wigs become more 361 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: and more fantastic. Now that they got this whole professional 362 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: industry growing up, men are like, for instance, keen to 363 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 2: have something that's not so feminine, So they like wigs 364 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: that have the horizontal side curls that we know of, 365 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 2: for like the if you look at like our founding fathers. 366 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: Those lets on the sides of their hair. Yeah, that 367 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 2: becomes the thing that and they love like a fun 368 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: kicky ponytail. 369 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 3: There there was a comedian in a while back who 370 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: had a whole thing about how what I think I 371 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: look like with a low pony and it was like 372 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 3: a picture of like a Ralph Lauren model, like a 373 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 3: stylish what I really look like, And it was a 374 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: picture one of the fetas Thomas Johnson. Yeah, that's how 375 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 3: I cannot wear a low ponytail. I look like a 376 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 3: founding father. 377 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 2: Well, they do love a good braid, they do, so 378 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 2: you know, just keep it loose and then maybe a 379 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: little more. 380 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 3: French, fun, sporty low pony Yeah. 381 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: Exactly so. Around the same time. Back in Europe, by 382 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 2: seventeen sixty four, there's a whole encyclopedia printed on wig hairstyles. 383 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 3: Encyclopedia a wig printed about it, or actually on. 384 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 2: Wig hair on the wig, just about wigs. So it 385 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 2: was called the Perachier Encyclopedia. It includes one hundred and 386 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 2: fifteen different wig set examples. 387 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 3: I love this right. 388 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 2: There was one type of wig that was essentially a 389 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: nest for a live bird. 390 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 3: Oh, I think I've seen right, there was. 391 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. The next big trend in wigs is grand your spectacle, right, 392 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: fantastical whimsy. So we get the because this way, it's 393 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: something that the pores can't afford, so they have to 394 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: show that they're different. So the rich people start having 395 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: these ways of signaling their status. So it's whimsy and 396 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 2: sheer spectacle and then the near impossibility of design, like 397 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 2: for instance, there was a woman who's wearing a tall ship. 398 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 2: Yeah it's entirely of hair. 399 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it's very Did you ever go to Beach 400 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 3: Blanket Babylon. 401 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've seen that. 402 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 3: That was an amazing show that they used to have. 403 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 404 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: Anyway, hetrickt wigs yea with all these things built into them, and. 405 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they are very much these types of pompadours. 406 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 407 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: So the so at this point, once the wig game 408 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 2: gets redick with it, right, we're talking this is like 409 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: the Dangerous Liaisons era. This is like Madame but the 410 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: pompadour era, right, Marie Antoinette, these are the names, right, 411 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: So just before the heads start to roll and fill baskets. 412 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: In the French Revolution, the ultra wealthy of France are 413 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 2: playing all sorts of crazy wig games for like a 414 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: decade solid, just to amuse themselves and let the poores 415 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: know how stupid wealthy they are. Look how stupid my 416 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 2: head looks. That's how wealthy I am. Yeah, now this 417 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: is the obviously most austentatious wig would win the Bell 418 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 2: of the Ball honors. So this is when we come 419 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: up with a to like signify this whole game as 420 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: the big wigs. That's where big wig comes from, to 421 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 2: signify the swells and their whole competition with their wigs 422 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: is being like, oh, he's a big wig, right, yeah, 423 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: so right. Anyway, by the end of the seventeen hundreds, 424 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: Louis the sixteenth now not the fourteenth, the sixteenth and 425 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: Marie Antoinette are holding it down Oversailles. Wigs have reached 426 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: their truth zenith of proportions, Like I don't think, I 427 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: don't know if I really conveyed how big these wigs were, 428 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 2: how layered and structured they were. But like for the 429 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: front of the wig, just above the forehead, there'd be 430 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: something called the fontage cofir, and that section would be 431 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: adorned with pearls, lace flowers, like tiny musical instruments veils 432 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: would hang down, so there was a kind of a delicate, 433 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 2: mysterious or decorous air. Right, So some of the the 434 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: used like they'd have the dazzle of jewels over the eyes. 435 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 2: And after that then comes the section that was typically 436 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: curled and piled into the curls. That's what you think. 437 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 3: That's the one that's like, you know, the higher the hair, 438 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: closer to God. 439 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 2: Exactly, big like Dallas, Texas have like waterfalls of hair 440 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: now suspended above the pearls and the lace and the 441 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 2: jewels and the flower section. Right, this is this section 442 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: is structured with wires, and it's called the palisade. Okay, 443 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 2: So then beyond that there's the structure in the creation 444 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 2: of the opulence. Then you also have the maintenance of 445 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: how big these things are. These people are spending a 446 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 2: grip to maintain their palisades, their wires, their jewels, but 447 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: also just you know, to keep it in good standing 448 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: because it would start to stink. Right. 449 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so. 450 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: Now you got all kinds of goods and products and 451 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 2: services dedicated to wig game. You got perfumeas you've got 452 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 2: these structural people, fumigators. Wig maintenance was a whole other industry, right, 453 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 2: because there were creams, oils, soaps you could buy. You 454 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: also could just pay someone to clean your wigs. So 455 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 2: there's wig cleaners, and then there were brushes and pins 456 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 2: and barets and curling sticks and crimping irons, and steamers 457 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: and dryers and perfume powders. Is all the stuff you 458 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 2: can just be buying. 459 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: In order to have them so structured, they must have had, 460 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: you know, glues and pastes and. 461 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: Oh starches, everything and all that will start to go bad. Yeah, 462 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 2: all right, So if you wanted to get a freshye, 463 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: it would cost you because it was labor intensive. Remember 464 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: these are to create these artorial celebrations of hair. I 465 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: found one quote that said one eighteenth century source stated 466 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: that it took six men six days working from sun 467 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: up to sundown. And then of course there was the 468 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 2: difficulty and expense of getting the hair itself, which is 469 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: often imported, plus the effort of customizing it to the 470 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: precise specifications of the purchaser's head and tastes. Right, So 471 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 2: this is why we have the whole industries. Now that 472 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: I've explained to you, all the wealth and the status 473 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: and the energy just floating around on heads next, Elizabeth, 474 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna get to the crime and the people who 475 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: yank theseckers. Let's take a little break, chill out with 476 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: a ton of ads, and then it'll be bad with wigjackers. 477 00:22:43,440 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 6: Cup run over, Elizabeth. 478 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: Hi, do you know what, chicken? But I forgot to 479 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: tell you about wigg holes? 480 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you did tell tell me about. 481 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: Before we get to wigjackers. I got to tell you 482 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: about wig holes. Do you want to guess what a 483 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 2: wig hole is? Now that I've told you a little 484 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 2: bit about it? 485 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 3: A wig hole like where you put your head in 486 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: the I don't know. 487 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 2: That's a good guess. That's pretty much it. It's like, well, 488 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: do you know why we call the bathroom the powder. 489 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 3: Room because you've got to powder your nose. 490 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: To the days of castles and villas inside the royal 491 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: courts of Europe, right in these grand homes, these palatial homes, 492 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 2: the aristocrats had powder rooms. Yeah, they didn't always have 493 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 2: indoor plumbing because the Romans. It's set since the Romans, 494 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: like the Roman Empire fell apart, They're like Europeans were 495 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: not committed them. 496 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 3: They weren't clear on the concept. 497 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it wasn't common yet, right, so, but most 498 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: of these folks that they would just do their business 499 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 2: like outdoors or in an outhouse type situation, or if 500 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: you're really fancy and nice, you would you know, you know, 501 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 2: use a bedpan or like something like that. Then you 502 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: just toss the content at the window. Yeah, exactly. It 503 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 2: was a very filthy time. People are just dumping this. Yeah, 504 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: so the super rich they would have a room in 505 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 2: their homes called the powder room. Well, they didn't have 506 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: a bathroom, they would have a powder room. And then 507 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: so it's obviously the powder rooms not for relieving oneself. 508 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: Well what is it for? Wig upkeep? The room was 509 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: singularly dedicated to sprucing up one's peruka, which is the 510 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 2: specific term for a powdered wig. Same goes for a 511 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: hair dresser. That's another word that comes from this era 512 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 2: because to dress the hair was not about cutting it. 513 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: It was about your wig. So our hairdressers is just 514 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: another wig holerver anyway. So there's a problem with the 515 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: palm aides used back in the day to maintain the wigs. 516 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: So palmade back then was a rendered animal fat, right. 517 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not petroleum lately. 518 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 2: No, No, So it's just like you cut some fat back, render. 519 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: It right, you just save your bacon grease from breakfast totally. 520 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: Then you throw in some flowers and you make obviously 521 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: you combined with perfume, and then you sprayed this animal 522 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 2: fat and perfume on the wig. And that's palm eight. 523 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: And the animal fat would eventually turn rancid and it 524 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: would start to smell and then start to attract flies. 525 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: And so you can't be shown up to the bell 526 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: of the bald moment with flies circling your head, right 527 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 2: you could, you could part of the show. Do you 528 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: want to be like pig Pen from Charlie Brown. But 529 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 2: to prevent the palm maade from going rancid, powders get 530 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: applied regularly, regularly applied. This this means extra wig maintenance, 531 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 2: which meant once you're all done and gussied up in 532 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: your get up, you can't be fussing with your your 533 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: head space, so you'd have to have a servant attend 534 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: to it. Yeah, So then the damn thing is you 535 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: got this. Your wig's so enormous your servant would need 536 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 2: a ladder to reach the top. They can't get up there, 537 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: not even with a chair. Thus a wig hole so 538 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: you build a giant wall, you put a chair there. Yes, 539 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 2: So the truly self conscious they had wig holes built 540 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: in their parlor and you know, also in their ballrooms, 541 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 2: so they could just like pop over to the wig hole. Yeah, 542 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: tuck their head into this large opening in the wall, 543 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: and then there would be like a secret servant sitting 544 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: back there with the powder and they go powder it up, 545 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: fume it up, and they pop back into the Yeah. 546 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 3: The life of the of the wig hole worker, the. 547 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 2: Wig hole servant. 548 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 3: Wait, yeah, it's like a pit crew basically. 549 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but for just egotism. 550 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 551 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: So at this point, right the seventeen seventies, the height 552 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: of the Bouffont Pompadour, the architectural wig this is popping off. 553 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 2: Marie Antoinette is literally the queen and the style queen. 554 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: So everyone's trying to like impress her at these balls. 555 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: So they're wearing the most outrageous wigs you've ever seen. 556 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: This is where we get the battleship constructed on that hair. 557 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: So one I found this one wig Elizabeth. It was 558 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: literally her hair was a frothing ocean. The wig hair 559 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 2: was then powdered blue and shaped to resemble storm tossed 560 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 2: seas and the top this she puts this the warship 561 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: and so you have like the whole scene, like a 562 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 2: colored battle scene on top of this woman's head. Amaze, 563 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: like a frigate on top of her wig. So anyway, 564 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: this is this point we have this new ara wig game. Right, 565 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: So women of the court, they're arriving at these balls 566 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 2: wearing these bird cages in their hair, wearing these like 567 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: fantasy scenes. The Duchess of Devonshire from England, she once 568 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: wore a whole pastoral scene on top of her head, 569 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 2: which included sheep and barnyard animals. 570 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: Wait, so what are the do you know what? The 571 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: sheep and the barnyard animals were made of human hair? 572 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 3: So everything human hair? 573 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 2: Some yeah, exactly. That was the game they played back then. 574 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: Is it cake or is it hair? Or is it wigger? 575 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: Is it hair? 576 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 3: So they're okay, wow, yeah. 577 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 2: And so there becomes a lucrative black market for human hair, 578 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 2: which also lasted for centuries. So for centuries people in 579 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: Europe are like harvesting hair. I found in eighteen sixty three, 580 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: eighteen sixty three, mind you, the periodical The Hairdresser Journal 581 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: reported that one hundred tons of real human hair was 582 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 2: sold in the markets of Paris in one calendar year. 583 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 5: Wow. 584 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: The most valuable, most sought after hair was the long 585 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 2: black locks of the Italian women and the Spanish women. 586 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: The Spanish so they was known to be glossy and 587 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: sheen and then also black and a dark brown in color, 588 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: which was than the northern Europeans. So they're like, oh, 589 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 2: it's exotic, right right, So it also is often curly 590 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 2: and loose in texture was such another thing that was 591 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 2: not common. So the hair buyers would travel the back 592 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 2: roads in the farm country of Italy and Spain looking 593 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 2: for young women and girls, and you can imagine what 594 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 2: that means. Sometimes they'd offer to buy the hair. Other times, 595 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: less scrupulous hair peddlers would kidnap farm kids, shear them 596 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: like sheep, and then turn them loose. Oh no, yeah, 597 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 2: the hair was not valuable. The fact there was an 598 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: annual tradition I found in Italy called the hair harvest. 599 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 2: Want to take what the guests with the hair harvest was? Yeah, 600 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 2: unlike your fake spaghetti harvest video, this one's real. The 601 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: hair harvest of Italy apparently real and in the poor 602 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: and rural villages. Once a year, the farmers would, like 603 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: from in the vineyard like the Vintnors, would gather their 604 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: young women and girls of the village, and then they 605 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: would bring them so that way they couldn't be like 606 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: shorn while they were walking to town. They would bring 607 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: them to town together and there they would shear all 608 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: the girls and they take their hair to market, like 609 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: just pounds of hair from all the village. 610 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 3: Girls, growing that much in a year. They do this 611 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 3: every year. They have to rotate them out. 612 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like fallow fields, like you got 613 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: some of the girls. 614 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 3: The girls are like, hey, listen, I'm working on I'm 615 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 3: growing out a really uncomfortable pixie. 616 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, not this year, next year, maybe the year after. 617 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: I found an eyewitness account quote several girls sheared one 618 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 2: after the other like sheep, and as many more standing 619 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: ready for the shears, with their caps in their hands 620 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: and their long hair combed out and hanging down to 621 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: their waists. So this hair harvest. Can you imagine coming 622 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: into town every year for your year's crop of hair 623 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: shore from your head as a young woman, like is 624 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: it my year? 625 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: Right? 626 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: So all to say, where does this much obsession and 627 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: status seeking and obviously crime. We have real crime. We 628 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: have the real robbers, the wigjackers, because with the rich 629 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: folks demand this is like, you know, they're showing up 630 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: with like money clutched in their hot little fists. People 631 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: were like, I got hair, Yeah, I can get you 632 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 2: some hair. So the wigjacker, like the cut purst technology 633 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: and times have changed and left behind this once famous criminal. 634 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: The wigjack is no longer known. But for a number 635 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: of centuries, from the sixteen hundreds at least until deep 636 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: into the late eighteen hundreds, and some people would say 637 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 2: into the early nineteen hundreds, wigjackers were hair raising criminals, 638 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: just constantly doing their thing. Returning once again to the 639 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: Hairdresser's Journal from the eighteen sixty three. 640 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 3: Edition, I love that magazine, boss, I. 641 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: Know you still subscribe. The black market demand for hair 642 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: was so great that wig theft became commonplace. Like quote, 643 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: even in the present day, it has happened over and 644 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: over again that a good crop of hair has been 645 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: laid in wait for and shorn from the trembling victim 646 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 2: who's been only too glad to get free with. But 647 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: the loss of their hair well yeah, yeah, So basically 648 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: it's like, I didn't lose anything but my hair. Fine, 649 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: I'll take it. 650 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: It grows back. 651 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: This one is like, basically it's a crime that was 652 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: very big in Europe. I will say this much for 653 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: the most part when I was looking into it. At 654 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: the time I'm talking about hair, theft for wig makers 655 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: was going down in the States too, right, So, like, 656 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: I have a story from Florida from the Jacksonville Weekly 657 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: Sentinel from eighteen sixty nine that talks about after traveling 658 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: to Jacksonville from San Francisco, quote, eight newly arrived Chinamen 659 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: had their handsome pigtails cut off by hair thieves. H 660 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: welcome to Florida. 661 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 3: But Florida's been Floridaing for a while. 662 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 663 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 3: But the thing is too is that's also like a 664 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: very I would hope that it was just for wig 665 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 3: making and not like it's a way to sort of 666 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 3: emasculate at the time. 667 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: Oh, there would be that, yes, But I think, well, 668 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: I have another story also from Florida, but I think 669 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: then carries. 670 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: Forward that this was They can't act like, oh, it's 671 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 3: the Sunshine laws. That is the reason these stories are like, girl, 672 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 3: this happened a long time ago. 673 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: This is this is just Florida. This is nineteen thirteen 674 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: from The Evening Independent, which is a newspaper out of 675 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: Saint Petersburg, Florida and so Tampa, Saint pete In. In addition, 676 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: from September nineteen thirteen, quote, hair thieves have appeared in 677 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: the West. They enter homes in the night and cut 678 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: the hair from the heads of sleeping women and children. 679 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: They do not attempt to move their victims, but cut 680 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 2: only such hair as can be convey de anniately reached without 681 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: awakening the sleepers. There seems to be an organized gang 682 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: of these thieves. No attempt is made in any other 683 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: form of robbery, the thieves leaving even watches and jewelry untouched. Yeah. Now, 684 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: as we often do point out, Florida is an easy target. 685 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: So let's get back to what I came to talk about. 686 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: Wig trackers in general. In Great Britain they called these 687 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: perfumed and powdered wigs periwigs, because they're like, oh, we 688 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: don't want to call it peruks. That's what they call 689 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: it in France, yea perry wigs. So they were hugely 690 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 2: they were ornate, opulent, same thing in England. Even Eve 691 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: might not imagine the English be like big into this, 692 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: but remember they're competing with the French, so they're doing 693 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: the same crazy like I've got a bird on my 694 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: head too. So at this point, the thing about a 695 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: wig is there's the obvious vulnerability. It's not real hair, 696 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 2: which means it's not fully attached to the head of 697 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: the wearer. Yeah, exactly right, Which said, these elaborate headpieces 698 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: could be like knocked off the head. You're walking around 699 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: with a fortune on your head that just can be 700 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: tipped off. Oh sure, So if a wig's net was 701 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 2: a little more creative, they could go for fishing for 702 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: big wigs. For instance, I read about wigjackers who would 703 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: hide above the thoroughfare or on the gates of a 704 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: stately home, and then when some impressive and expensive wig 705 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 2: went bobbing by, they'd lower a fishing pole and with 706 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: one good yank they'd tug off the headpiece. So these 707 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: hair raising thieves, right, they pull the wig, make their escape, 708 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: and they're off with basically a stolen treasure. Now these 709 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 2: head pieces would have to be sold though, so now 710 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: you need a fence, same as with any other goods. 711 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: So now we got wig fences out there working right, 712 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 2: Just try to picture that exactly, like the scalps in there, 713 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: who needs fresh head gear? 714 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 3: I got lace fronts. 715 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: So this is also the wigs could be like anything 716 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: like jewelry could be broken apart and sold off as elements, 717 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 2: so the hair could be used for a new wig, 718 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: the bobbles and the jewels and the lace could be 719 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: broken off and used for different wigs. So then that's 720 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: how the wig makers could buy back certain things and 721 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: be like, oh, yes, I just happened to have the 722 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 2: same lace, I got more of it right, right right. 723 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: And then also they could be sold overseas in the America, 724 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,959 Speaker 2: so he could just take a whole wig and not 725 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: have to break it down and just sell to the Americans. 726 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 3: Steal cars here and ship shop them to the east. 727 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 2: Is exactly. The crimes have not changed the thing. So 728 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: there's so many ways to get into wig crime. But 729 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 2: the wigjackers, they're my favorites, and more than the wig 730 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 2: fences or the whigs smugglers or whig distributors, the wigjackers 731 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: the ones on the line. Yeah, they had so many 732 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 2: methods to lifting a wig. But rather than me tell 733 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: you about that I'd like you to close your eyes 734 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: as I'd like you to picture it. The year is 735 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: seventeen seventy six, and you, Elizabeth, are in London. At 736 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: the moment, you are chilling on a bench along a 737 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: walkway that wends through a high walled orchard park. Families 738 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: of birds sing from the branches above you. A slight 739 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 2: breeze makes leaves dance. It is a pleasant Saturday summer 740 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: afternoon as the day heads on its way towards evening. 741 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 2: At the moment, you are seated watching the crowd pass by, 742 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: not the crowd inside the orchard, but rather the crowd 743 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 2: passing by just outside of it. But due to the 744 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 2: nature of the high wall, all you can see is 745 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: the tops of their heads. Mostly it's tasteful chapeaus and 746 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 2: top hats. You admire their construction and gleam, but your 747 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 2: eyes also pass over them without much excitement, because that's 748 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 2: not what you're after. You are clocking the wigs. Next 749 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 2: to you is a dog, your trustee partner. He listlessly pants. 750 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 2: Waiting on the bench next to you is a basket 751 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 2: covered by a tasteful blanket. You hum a little song 752 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 2: to yourself as you wait and then you see it 753 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 2: a highly koift structural affair. It looks to be a 754 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 2: super expensive powdered wig. It's creatively designed to resemble a 755 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 2: bird taking wing. A smile curls your lips. Then you 756 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: let out a whistle. A furry hand shoots out from 757 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 2: the basket. It's not your hairy baby boy, Nope. As 758 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 2: the blanket pushes back out, pops a monkey. The monkey 759 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: looks up at you. You nod to the monkey. It 760 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 2: makes a little monkey sound of understanding. Then you turn 761 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 2: your head and you look in the direction of the 762 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 2: wig bobbing along on the other side of the high wall. 763 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 2: The monkey nods, makes another monkey sound, this time it's agreement. 764 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 2: The monkey takes off, bounds off the bench. She runs 765 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 2: across the orchard, springs up into a tree, crosses a 766 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 2: long branch, pops onto the high wall that's around the orchard, 767 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 2: and you watch as your monkey runs along the wall. 768 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 2: When he gets close to the wig, you whistle. Your 769 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 2: trusty dog looks up at you. You give a second 770 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 2: different whistle, and with that signal, the dog runs off. 771 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 2: Just as you've practiced. The monkey does what she's trained 772 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: to do. She runs up, grabs hold of the wig. 773 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 2: With a quick yank, she rips the wig from the 774 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 2: head of the unseen wealthy woman. There's a scream of surprise. 775 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 2: Then the monkey jumps down from the fence and she 776 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 2: lands on the back of your dog. The monkey looks 777 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 2: like a tiny cowboy on the back of the dog. 778 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 2: With the monkey secure on its back, the dog rears 779 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: up like a horse. The monkey holds tight to the 780 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 2: dog's collar. She grips the stolen wig and her other 781 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: tiny monkey paw. The dog's feet returned to the earth, 782 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 2: and the dog scampers off with the monkey wigjacker holding 783 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 2: tight on its back. You watches your dog with your 784 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 2: monkey accomplice race between the folks walking through the orchard. Meanwhile, 785 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 2: you lift yourself up casually from the bench, grab your 786 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 2: basket and walk in the other direction. You and the 787 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 2: monkey and the dog will all meet up back at 788 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,959 Speaker 2: your crime layer another day, another wigjacked. 789 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 3: That's facing. 790 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 2: So wig snatching monkey and a criminally trained dog, right, 791 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 2: that was fun. Now, how about a fake butcher and 792 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: a real boy. Okay, there was a classic wig stealing 793 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 2: scheme that I read a couple times. It involved a 794 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 2: real young boy, baskets blankets and a fake butcher. In 795 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 2: the book At the Sign of the Barber's Poll, published 796 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 2: in nineteen oh four, there's this account of a wig 797 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 2: stealing tactic. The story goes, Imagine like, there's a butcher 798 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 2: walking in the streets of London carrying a butcher's basket 799 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 2: of meats on his shoulder, and the baskets covered by 800 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 2: a sheet like a white sheet and standard fair. You know, 801 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 2: everyone would see this very common. Nobody would look twice. 802 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 2: And the butcher passes some of the swells that fill 803 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 2: the streets. Oh, they must be delivering to a very 804 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 2: nice house in the area. Of course, there's a butcher 805 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 2: hand delivering all the meat. And when the butcher draws 806 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 2: close to a man wearing a prominent wig, out from 807 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 2: underneath the blanket that covers the butcher's basket shoots a 808 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 2: boy's hand. The boy's hand takes a firm grip of 809 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: the wig and with a twist, pops the wig loose 810 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 2: of the man's head. The boy then pops up from 811 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 2: the basket, hops down from the butcher's shoulder, and runs off. 812 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: And then the butcher tosses the basket and runs in 813 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 2: the other direction. 814 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 3: So you're very elaborate, right, unnecessary. 815 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 2: Take it. The idea is they don't want them to 816 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 2: be suspicious, that they need to get close enough, and 817 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 2: so the proximity part is the issue. 818 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,280 Speaker 3: So you could just be a butcher carrying a basket 819 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 3: and when you come to pass the guys, shove the basket. 820 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 3: Even no, you grab the wig and drop the basket 821 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 3: and run. 822 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 2: Boy. It's because the boy is likely to get away 823 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 2: and the butcher can get away because you can't chase 824 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 2: two people. You're one person. So what do you go after? 825 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 2: You go after the wig? Right, Yeah, boys got the 826 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 2: wig boys fast and was gone like huffing and puffing away. 827 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 2: And he's probably gonna fight you because he's a criminal 828 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: and he's trained a boy to heal wig. You're like, 829 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 2: I got no good a thing. 830 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 3: It's just overwhelming. You just stand there with a denuded head. 831 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that you've been wigjacked. 832 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 3: Even totally. We had There was a when I was 833 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 3: in high school. Uh, it was very popular to slick 834 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 3: your hair back and if you didn't have long enough 835 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 3: hair for a ponytail, put the false ponytail on there. 836 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 3: Oh really, like a wig pony chair was a big thing. 837 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 3: And some girl I went to an all girls school. 838 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 3: Some girl irritated another, and the aggrieved party snatched the 839 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 3: ponytail as she walked by her in the hall, and 840 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 3: she was just left with I mean, she didn't even 841 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 3: have enough to like gather. It was just sleep back here. 842 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 3: And everyone laughed really hard, but then felt really bad 843 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 3: about laughing. 844 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, cry and run away. 845 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 3: Well no she yeah, she was pretty upset, and so 846 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 3: then everyone got after the wig snatcher, the like, come. 847 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 2: On, this is his sister, give her back her hair. 848 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, but oh it looked bad. 849 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 2: Scene. That's how these wigjacks people dresses a. 850 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 3: Butcher and she didn't have a little boy with her. 851 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 2: Noo, just came down. Well, Elizabeth, le's take a little break, 852 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 2: chill our domes, reset our wig hats, and we back 853 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 2: up to these warm and delicious ads. We're back, Elizabeth, Oh, 854 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 2: we are back. Zaren you ready for some more hair 855 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 2: raising antics? 856 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 3: As many as you got, did you know? 857 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 2: The etymology of the word robbery comes from the word robes, 858 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,720 Speaker 2: as in disrobing our person and stealing their fine clothing, 859 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 2: especially their robes. In the Middle Ages, that's where we 860 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 2: get the word robbery. Yeah, I learned that doing this research. 861 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 2: I like that robbery and banditry have always been focused 862 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 2: on closed and then later just focused on wigjacking. It 863 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 2: was just an evolution, is what I'm saying. It started 864 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 2: the robes and they moved to the head. Now I've 865 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 2: got a famous bandit from you from English history who 866 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 2: apparently was also a wigjacker. His name is Dick Turpin. 867 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you familiar with Dick Turpin. Yeah, so you 868 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 2: know that one show you like, The Great British Bakeoff. Yes, 869 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 2: there's that one. Presenter looks like Dracula's baby cousin. He's 870 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 2: a goth British comic actor. Was his name, Noel, Noel 871 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 2: Fielding Coward If you can believe it. That dude recently 872 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 2: starred in the series where he played Dick Turpin. Really 873 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 2: he played a high woman. You're like that guy? How 874 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 2: would you cast him? Why would you put him on 875 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 2: the horse? 876 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 877 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 2: Apparently it was called The completely made up Adventure of 878 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 2: Dick Turpin. He played the high Women, but I guess 879 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 2: he wasn't super into it because in the middle of 880 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 2: the production of the second season he just stopped coming 881 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,439 Speaker 2: to work. 882 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 3: Oh he did I love that the. 883 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 2: Production took a break for the holiday at the end 884 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four, and when the show returned to 885 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 2: the production to start the year, he's like, remember the 886 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 2: last time you saw me on the set? 887 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 3: It was he was upset they didn't have enough sweaters 888 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 3: with long sleeves. Pull his hands in exactly. 889 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 2: Come on, sir, I was like, So apparently he was like, 890 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 2: I am not Dick Turpin anymore. 891 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 3: He wasn't into it. Yeah, we're all allowed to change 892 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 3: our minds. 893 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, contracts be damned. They were like, damn. So they 894 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 2: released the cast and canceled the show. Oh wow, done deal. 895 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 2: So somehow this result feels very much in the spirit 896 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 2: of the famous highwaymen, you know, get paid disappear. Hey, 897 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 2: way to go, Dick. So apparently the real Dick Turpin. 898 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 2: Uh wigjacker. The prophets were just too great to ignore. 899 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 2: He wasn't big into wig jacking. It was not his 900 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 2: primary source of bandit amusement or profits. Yeah, Like, I 901 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 2: could find no specific incidents I could tell you about this. 902 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 2: It's like a great story. I just find I'd found 903 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 2: mention of him being a wigjacker. I read about him. 904 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 2: I learned about tactics of some of his more prominent 905 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 2: wigjacking colleagues. Criminal colleague feel like. 906 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 3: For him it was probably like, oh, ps, I'm going 907 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:02,439 Speaker 3: to take the wig. 908 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a humiliating thing. I think for 909 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 2: some of the people he didn't like. He actually often 910 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 2: seemed to have very personal reactions to the rich people 911 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 2: he was robbing. 912 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 3: It was a dirty dude. 913 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he's not. He's not good from what I read. 914 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 2: So the Highwaymen, right, you know term for bandits, they 915 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 2: would and. 916 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 3: A phenomenal supergroup. 917 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 2: Yes, very true, very very. 918 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 3: I'm like that dog and up it like squirrel. So 919 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 3: I hears highwaymen, I hear words, and it's like I 920 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 3: have to I'm my sights back into the story. 921 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 2: Yes, so the I didn't really actually know this or 922 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 2: imagine it. I mean I kind of heard it, but 923 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 2: I didn't think about it. And the Wild West Outlaws 924 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 2: right one hundred years before them in England, you'd find 925 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 2: the same exact moves. You'd find dudes on morse back 926 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 2: hiding out in a cave hidden by a thicket or brush. 927 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 2: When the wagon wheels would go by, they come charging out. 928 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 2: They were just doing stagecoach robberies. But they were not 929 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 2: calling it back. 930 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 3: Isn't that what Saint Lawrence O'Toole and I was talking 931 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 3: about his relic getting stolen? Like I think it was 932 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 3: St Lawrence o'tooles, the one who like was gone after 933 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 3: the highwaymen. Yeah, you know they were. 934 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 2: Terrorible for centuries. They were just you couldn't leave town 935 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 2: without you knew that bandits or highwaymen would get you. Yeah, 936 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 2: So they would ride out on horseback, chase down the 937 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 2: wagon right. Sometimes they would stop the wagon like at 938 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 2: a gunpoint. Other times the highwaymen known as chiving lace. 939 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 2: Don't know what that means. They would just cut into 940 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 2: the coach, like literally cut into the side of the 941 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,760 Speaker 2: coach while it's rolling, while they're trying to get away, 942 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 2: and then they would reach into the hole that they 943 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 2: created and snatch a wig off the head of a 944 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 2: big wig. 945 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 3: Wait, that's incredible. 946 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 2: So if they could manage it, though they preferred, they 947 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 2: would just snatch the wig off of an open window 948 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 2: or else. If the curious matter woman stuck their head 949 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 2: out of the coach to see what all the noise 950 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 2: was about, then that was great game for them. 951 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 3: This is I would love to see, uh for you. 952 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 3: I would love for you to see this is a 953 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 3: stunt sequence in a Mission Impossible movie. I say it 954 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 3: for you because I don't watch. 955 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 4: Them, but I know you like obsessive kind of like 956 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 4: it's like a fetish, but I think that, like, I 957 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 4: would love for you to be able to see that 958 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,439 Speaker 4: and happen with Tom Cruise yank and a wig. 959 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 2: Tom Cruise getting yank either way, Yeah, because probably be 960 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 2: more accurate because they're known for wearing the masks and 961 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 2: so you've got a wig on top. 962 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 3: I'm putting that, I'm manifesting that for you, Tom, Tom, 963 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 3: friend of the show Cruise, Come on. 964 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 2: There was a story I did find out a highwayman 965 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 2: named John Everett, the author of Fiona McDonald. She wrote 966 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 2: this great book called Gentlemen, Rogues and Wicked Ladies. Oh yeah, 967 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 2: and she describes some wig heists in her book. And 968 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 2: as McDonald writes, quote, Everett fancied a bob wig that 969 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 2: sat atop the head of a Quaker seated in a 970 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 2: coach with a number of other passengers. Everett pulled it 971 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 2: off the man's head and swapped it with his own 972 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 2: secondhand tie wig, which he had bought, not stolen, the 973 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 2: tie wig, which made the man look like a comical devil, 974 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 2: and the rest of the coach party burst out laughing. 975 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 2: The robbery ended with all parties going there's separate ways, 976 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 2: without any hard feelings, except perhaps for the Quaker. 977 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 3: The Quaker bob wig has evolved into like the Auntie wig. Yes, 978 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 3: so I just imagine that, and like how starkly different 979 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,839 Speaker 3: that is from the big baroque cocoa confections. 980 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 2: But he loved it. He was like, I want this. 981 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 2: This is sporty. That will looks so good with my cheekbones. 982 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 3: Were busy on the go lives, though, My question is. 983 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,320 Speaker 2: How many people like old John Everett here were buying 984 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,720 Speaker 2: and wearing used wigs, Like are there are enough folks 985 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,280 Speaker 2: to buy used wigs? That stolen wigs was a reliable 986 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 2: source of income. Oh sure apparently, because this is like. 987 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 3: Look at it this way, the number of iPhones that 988 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 3: get stolen, you think, like are enough people buying hot iPhone? 989 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 2: Apparently we're just selling them back to Apple you know 990 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 2: or whoever? What I mean? 991 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 3: Like, like you want some cans, there's like, hey, you. 992 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 2: Got some We got some goods in here. I'm sure you'd. 993 00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, I don't know. Apparently there's it's 994 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 3: or it's like junk mail. Oh yeah, people must be 995 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:09,720 Speaker 3: answering hundred like otherwise they wouldn't they wouldn't waste their money. 996 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 3: So people were buying hot well. 997 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 2: Also, it's like when I watched movies from this nineteen seventies, 998 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 2: and people are always stealing hubcaps. It's super common. Apparently 999 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 2: there was a huge market for used hubcaps in the 1000 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 2: seventies and like you never see people selling the used tubcaps. 1001 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 2: You just see them stealing them and then talking about it. 1002 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 2: But apparently there had to be people going out buying 1003 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 2: used hubcaps to replace the ones they were stolen. 1004 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 3: That's when you think, are they taking it to a 1005 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 3: metal shop? 1006 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 2: Are they melting it down? But they're mostly like you know, 1007 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 2: like aluminum, they're not like. 1008 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. The flea market, Yeah, go to. 1009 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 2: You will find hubcaps down there. 1010 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 3: You will find stuff that you think someone stole that. 1011 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 3: And I'm not sure why, but that is one hundred. 1012 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 2: Percent's gonna buy it. And I also don't know why. 1013 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 3: A little saddest or when it's like a workman's tools 1014 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 3: and you're like, so you tool stole that. 1015 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 2: I have been the workman who's yeah, tools were stolen. Like, yeah, 1016 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 2: we were painting at a nursery on the weekends because 1017 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 2: you can't be there because the kid's there in the weekdays. 1018 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 2: So we're painting and we got to air out and 1019 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 2: we just left our tools outside and these guys was 1020 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 2: in Compton. They came in and just took everything. 1021 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 3: It probably at the coliseum. 1022 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I should go down there and look. Now, if 1023 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 2: you were wondering setting all these historical analogs of stolen 1024 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 2: hubcaps aside, after centuries of wigjacking, how did wig theft 1025 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 2: come to an end? 1026 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 3: Did it come to an end? 1027 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 2: Zero question? 1028 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 3: Thank you for wanting to think about it? 1029 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 2: Is I got another thing coming on? There is a 1030 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 2: prosecution of wig thiefs. By the way, what do you 1031 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,439 Speaker 2: think about that? The expression that you have another think 1032 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 2: coming or another thing coming? 1033 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 3: You know, I always thought it was another saying coming, 1034 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 3: but apparently another think. 1035 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 2: How could another thing that doesn't even make sense to me? 1036 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 2: But think thing with the g think makes sense because 1037 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 2: you have basically it's it's a lazy or a creative 1038 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 2: way of saying you got another thought coming like, well, 1039 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 2: I got. 1040 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 3: This one thing that happened to me. Well guess what 1041 00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 3: another thing's about to happen. 1042 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 2: Oh, that's I heard it. 1043 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. 1044 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 2: I'm not smart. Well noways I had a friend and 1045 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 2: she's a thing truther. She insists that it's you got 1046 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 2: another thing coming. That's what I say. I'm always like that, 1047 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 2: you're gonna really die on this hill. 1048 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 3: Here's the thing, too, is that I am always right, yes, 1049 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 3: because when I know, because when i'm wrong, I know 1050 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 3: i'm wrong. 1051 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 2: Right, So you're always right even you're wrong. You were brilliant, right, 1052 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 2: thank you. Right. The wig jacking era came to an 1053 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 2: end because of one prosecution of wig thieves. But this 1054 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 2: was actually not that common. It's very sporadic. Sometimes wig 1055 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 2: thieves would be acquitted just because people are like, yeah, 1056 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:37,720 Speaker 2: you know why, we don't. 1057 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 3: Get the wig doesn't fit? 1058 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 2: You must there you go. 1059 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 5: Now. 1060 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,800 Speaker 2: Other times, though, wig thieves would be hung like horse thieves. 1061 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 3: Oh dear, yeah, so there was they would be hanged. 1062 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 2: That was right, Sorry, that thief is hung. 1063 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 3: You're like wow. 1064 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 2: There was no fair and consistent basis of prosecutions. My point. 1065 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 2: Mostly it was seen as a petty crime. Right, So 1066 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 2: despite the cost of all these wigs and the prominence 1067 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 2: of the victims, Yeah, it wasn't something that was prosecuted much. 1068 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 2: In fact, theft that I found was not prosecuted much. 1069 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 2: In seventeen hundreds in England, only four point three percent 1070 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 2: of cases of theft went to trial. Yeah, and for 1071 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 2: that's for all thefts, not just wig jacking. And then 1072 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 2: so this kind of explains like wigjacking so low on 1073 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 2: the set of priorities if you're only like bringing four 1074 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 2: percent of cases, right, and then there's a rated prosecution. 1075 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 2: I found at the court the Old Bailey. Yeah, seventy 1076 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 2: percent of those cases that were brought to court were 1077 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 2: found not guilty. Apparently you can just rob That's why 1078 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 2: it was a highwayman. 1079 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 3: It was just like it was like, yeah, high skills, 1080 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 3: well lacking. 1081 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 2: It was like, okay, it's like if you aren't going 1082 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 2: to chase the thieves, they're just gonna You've incentivized. 1083 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 3: The whole What are you going to do? Well, actually, 1084 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 3: there's not much I can't do, So go ahead, break 1085 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 3: everybody's windows. 1086 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,800 Speaker 2: Like, look, you're not prosecuting, I'm not stopping. So anyway, 1087 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 2: this left it to wig makers to offer some protection 1088 00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 2: for their clients. So they are coming totally exactly it. 1089 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,319 Speaker 2: They had like it made it near impossible to yank 1090 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 2: a wig off a person's head. You'd have to spend 1091 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 2: a lot extra. But they would make all these like 1092 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 2: elaborate straps or like a draw string system. There was 1093 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,479 Speaker 2: also I found buckles where they would buckle to the head, 1094 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 2: so you got like a double strapping. 1095 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 3: I bet you they fit me. You could probably gesticulate better. 1096 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 2: Truly, you could dance more. You can get your head 1097 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 2: and do some bobbing and dipping. So at this point, 1098 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 2: once your buckle in, your fake hair to your head 1099 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 2: to make sure no one jacks your pompadour, I mean, 1100 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 2: you've really committed to the last ye. Now. The other 1101 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 2: aspect that helped to diminish the incidents of wigjacking was 1102 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 2: the American Revolution, but more precisely the French Revolution. Oh yeah, 1103 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,879 Speaker 2: in France, right, seeing all the pompadours in the head 1104 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 2: baskets had a chilling effect on. 1105 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,840 Speaker 3: French republank those. 1106 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 2: Exactly, but nobody wanted that because as a reaction to 1107 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,399 Speaker 2: the French Revolution, the bourgeoisie began to wear their hair 1108 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 2: natural as a symbol of their natural gifts rather than 1109 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 2: the power of the purse. Okay, so they wanted natural beauty, 1110 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 2: the one that would you know, I had given what 1111 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 2: was what was common as opposed to what was bought 1112 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,400 Speaker 2: and exploited. So natural hair becomes in line with the 1113 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 2: spirit of liberty, egalite fraternity wear. I wear my hair natural. 1114 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,720 Speaker 3: Brother, That's kind of where I hope we're gonna swing. 1115 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we always swing, because A going to go 1116 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 2: back and forth. 1117 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 3: Because like the kind of powers that be thing right 1118 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 3: now of having the alien plastic surgery face and like 1119 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 3: the same hair like pumpkin. 1120 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 2: Get bored of that. Yeah, yeah, you will see that. 1121 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 2: And I don't think it'll be much more than five 1122 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 2: to seven years tops figures. I think much sooner than that. 1123 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 2: But that's the longest this will go. 1124 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1125 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 2: Oh, another term I found that I thought would be interested. 1126 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 5: You. 1127 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,839 Speaker 2: You know, we talk about big choker energy and someone 1128 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 2: having big choker energy to refer to a certain type 1129 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,479 Speaker 2: of person. No, I don't think so. But I learned 1130 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 2: that chokers became a thing after the French Revolution. The 1131 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,439 Speaker 2: necklaces weren't close around the throat, they were colored bright 1132 00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 2: red and nicknamed guillotine necklaces. 1133 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 3: This so fits in with big chokers. 1134 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 2: Right, totally. So trends at this point clearly had. 1135 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,320 Speaker 3: Four They will explain it. 1136 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 2: Yeah today not today. The idea was that at this 1137 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,800 Speaker 2: point the common man common women were the new ideals 1138 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 2: in France, and so the common man and common women 1139 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 2: have no use for a ridiculously quapped wig. So then 1140 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 2: once the French who set the trends, it's just a 1141 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 2: matter of time. Over in America, where trends had always 1142 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 2: been the thing. After the Revolution, our revolution, wiggs came 1143 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 2: to be seen as a symbol of the former English sugarlords. Right, 1144 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,720 Speaker 2: so they came to see this like, oh, the shallow 1145 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 2: symbol of old world vanity, specifically vanity more so than wealth, 1146 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 2: which I thought was really interesting. Yeah. Powdered wigs came 1147 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 2: to be known as bushes of vanity. Wow, that was 1148 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 2: their nickname. By the time Andrew Jackson's president in eighteen thirties, 1149 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 2: no one in America's rocking a wig anymore, pretty much right. 1150 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 2: In fact, to show that they were old school, the 1151 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:52,399 Speaker 2: opposition party to Andrew Jackson called themselves the Whig Party. Yeah, 1152 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 2: and that lasted for two decades the party right by 1153 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 2: the Civil War. They're done. But they even saw a 1154 00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 2: couple of presidents be Wigs. They didn't last long. They 1155 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 2: had a ten of dying off of real quick. But 1156 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 2: the party was done by the time of Lincoln, and 1157 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 2: the former Whigs became Republicans. Holding to your idea that 1158 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 2: the maga face with the plastic surgery is very much 1159 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 2: the same. Like, hey, they were trying to signal back then, Hey, 1160 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 2: we're about the Whigs and grandeur and opulents. They were like, 1161 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 2: we're America. We're not into that. So back in jolly 1162 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,360 Speaker 2: old England, though, in seventeen ninety five, as if basically 1163 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 2: in response to the French Revolution, the British Prime Minister 1164 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 2: at the time, William Pitt He oversaw the creation of 1165 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 2: something called the whig powder Tax. So it was a 1166 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 2: tax on wig powder, like the stuff to keep your 1167 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 2: hair like from steaking and draw and flies. The aim 1168 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 2: was to impose this harsh tax on wig makers and 1169 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 2: wig buyers and so forth. So it ultimately kills the 1170 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 2: trend from both sides. Yeah, and mostly only the wealthy 1171 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 2: then and those in the legal trade, the lawyers and 1172 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 2: judges yeah, held the to it, so that way was 1173 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 2: now once again a symbol and status signifier, but for 1174 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 2: a very specific thing. The wigs of there were then 1175 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,240 Speaker 2: remanded to museums where they quote grew infested, dusty, and tangled. 1176 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 2: I found that the British National Museum described its own 1177 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 2: collection of wigs from this time as quote associated with 1178 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 2: an aristocracy opposed to reforms in a bygone era a 1179 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, with that era of the big wig 1180 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,840 Speaker 2: began its slow fade into memory and to be replaced 1181 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 2: with the now metaphor. So that's why we still associate 1182 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,319 Speaker 2: big wigs with the same past excesses. Yeah, just because 1183 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,320 Speaker 2: they may have taken off their wigs. It's still the 1184 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:21,879 Speaker 2: same crowd. 1185 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:22,839 Speaker 3: It's the truth. 1186 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,359 Speaker 2: So what's some ridiculous take away here, Elizabeth oh Man? 1187 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 3: I think go natural, you know, like it just always. 1188 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 3: And what's curious is the French. I mean, like you 1189 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 3: look at with French fashion, they continue that today of 1190 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 3: just like aging naturally and gracefully. 1191 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 2: And without surgeries. Yeah. 1192 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, being over there not too long ago, you see, 1193 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 3: like people don't have like filler lips and like they 1194 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 3: let their hair gray, and it's just interesting. 1195 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 2: It's very, very attractive. Actually, I agree. 1196 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 3: I find it really refreshing when you see, like the 1197 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 3: actresses on television, you haven't done anything, haven't any work done? 1198 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 2: Rogers me. 1199 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 3: Rodgers is a good example in the Bosch series. 1200 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 2: She looks fantastic, Like I put those in your terms, 1201 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:15,319 Speaker 2: like I picked someone for something. I know you've watched sar. 1202 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 2: What's your ridiculous takeaway mine, Elizabeth, thank you for asking me. 1203 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 2: I'm so happy as a rare instance my Actually, uh, 1204 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's just basically that the 1205 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,879 Speaker 2: cutting the hole in the coach to steal the wig 1206 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 2: just picturing that I was having I was laughing out 1207 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 2: loud when I was reading about wig holes. I just 1208 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 2: people just like I got to hit the wig hole. 1209 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 2: But then when I got to cutting a hole in 1210 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,879 Speaker 2: a coach that's rolling along, you got a knife in something, 1211 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 2: you're on a horse, you're going up and down. I mean, 1212 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 2: that's not easy. That's commitment to the bit. I love that. 1213 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 2: That's like, what are you an improv actor over here? 1214 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 2: So you in the mood for a talkback, Elizabeth, watch 1215 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,320 Speaker 2: all baby, I am producing d if you could favor 1216 00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 2: us with one? Oh my god, did you see that. 1217 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:12,800 Speaker 5: I love you. Bye. This is Jack from Australia. I 1218 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 5: really love your podcast. It's such a good keep up 1219 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 5: the good luck and I love the funny and ridiculous 1220 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 5: crimes without the mode. And that's all I happy, Thank you, 1221 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 5: goodbye bye Jack. 1222 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 2: If you're okay, blink, I'm guessing he's like under his 1223 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 2: covers listening to a podcast and he's not supposed to 1224 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 2: be aware. 1225 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 3: Jack took a parent's phone, downloaded the iHeart a congratulations 1226 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 3: job recorded this and then they're gonna and Jack's gonna go. Jack. 1227 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:47,440 Speaker 3: You're my hero. 1228 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 2: New friend of the show, Jack, Jack one friend of 1229 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 2: the show. 1230 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 3: Love it. 1231 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 2: Well as always. You can find us online Ridiculous Crime 1232 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 2: on social media if you'd like some more. We got 1233 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 2: our images on Instagram, go check those out. Every episode 1234 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,560 Speaker 2: we put up pictures on the show that often will 1235 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 2: we refer to or just help you visualize these criminals 1236 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 2: in the crimes, So do check out our Instagram page. Also, 1237 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 2: we're over on Blue Sky and YouTube. We got our 1238 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 2: YouTube account Ridiculous Crime Pod on YouTube, so check those out. 1239 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 2: And we have our website Ridiculous Crime dot com, which 1240 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 2: is apparently just been nominated for a Another Awards second 1241 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 2: best planet in the Solar System, right fingers crossed. I 1242 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 2: feel it's a big one. It really is, so yeah. 1243 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 2: Also email us if you'd like please at Ridiculous Crime 1244 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 2: at gmail dot com. You can go to the iHeart app, 1245 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 2: download it and leave us talk back because we love those. 1246 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. We will catch you next. 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