WEBVTT - Crossing the Rubicon with Laura Ingraham 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:04.120 We have a very very special guest for this episode, 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:07.800 none other than the great Laura Ingram. You know Laura 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:11.360 Ingram from The Ingram Angle on Fox News, always speaking 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:16.200 the truth, fearless, independent minded, which I deeply respect. I 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.880 love people like that. I love people like her. So 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:20.759 I gotta tell you it's an honor to to have 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.880 her guest as a guest on the show. You know 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:27.840 her from TV. She previously was a nationally syndicated radio show, 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:31.800 The Laura Ingram Show. And also before her media days, 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.839 she worked as a speechwriter in the Reagan administration in 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.400 the late nineteen eighties. You know, she went on to 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:39.600 get her law degree. She worked as a judicial clerk 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.280 in the Second Court of Appeals in New York, then 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.639 for the United States Supreme Court for Justice Clarence Thomas. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:50.640 So she's lived an interesting life, obviously accomplished a great deal, 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.240 but I think most importantly, she's fearless and she's brave. 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:57.120 I originally wanted to have her on to talk about 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:59.240 life and to talk about some of that, you know, 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:02.920 really interesting work experience she had and how she got 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.120 into media and all those sorts of things. And then 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:08.560 the FBI decided to raid Trump right, and the country 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:12.119 got turned upside down and my plans got turned upside 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.120 down for the things I wanted to discuss. So now 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.840 we're gonna talk about that the impact it has on 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.240 the country. We'll get into other things too, but you know, 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.800 primarily just sort of talk about the direction this nation 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:26.360 is heading in. So I hope you enjoyed this conversation. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:28.800 I know it's an honor for me. Big fan of 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.200 Laura Ingram, I'm sure you are too. So here she 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:44.839 is Laura Ingram. So we've got a big show today, 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:47.920 a big week obviously, a lot happening in the country. 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.320 The great Laura Ingram is joining us. You know, Laura, 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.280 I originally wanted to talk about life because you're a 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.600 badass and I admire and respect you. But then the 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.400 but then the but then the you know I do, 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.960 but but then the FBI rated Trump. So you know, 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:06.600 now we're here, Laura, and it feels like the country 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:12.640 is forever changed and we have uncertain times ahead. I think, Lisa, 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:17.680 we have arrived at the at the proverbial rubicon. And 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.920 you know, if people know their history, uh, that wasn't good. 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:26.120 People think, oh, we're at the rubicon, it's a new frontier. Now. 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:32.080 This I think does so much to undermine what Americans 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:36.440 need to believe about their government, namely that the government 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.280 exists to make their lives better. It doesn't exist to 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:44.000 turn them into enemies. It doesn't exist to vanquish political opponents. 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:48.440 It actually is supposed to work for us. And if 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:53.200 we begin to lose faith in our law enforcement and 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:57.320 our federal investigative services to the extent that I think 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:01.040 so many people are losing it now, you know, to 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.840 quote new Gingrich on the angerm angle um this week, 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.680 he said, we're at the precipice. I mean, it's not 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.560 an exaggeration to say we're at the precipice now, because 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:16.040 we know already. LI said that these forces on the 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:21.239 left I don't like the Constitution. They're not interested in 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.280 in the Framers. They think the Framers are a bunch 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:27.360 of racists. And everything about America that has kind of 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.280 held us together for two or in fifty years they 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:33.280 think is inherently corrupt. Uh. And so they don't care 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:38.440 if people don't believe the FBI is operating in good faith. 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.760 They don't They don't care if people think the Justice 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:46.320 Department is essentially the praetorian guard for a failing administration. 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:47.920 I don't care about any of that, because they think 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:53.560 the system itself is fatally flawed. They would much prefer, 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:58.320 and I say they sort the elites who have helped 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.440 build up China all these years and let our military 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:06.720 deteriorate over all these years. They would far prefer America 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:11.200 to be run under a global understanding where where all 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:14.520 the big decisions are made elsewhere by people we don't 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.839 vote for, and by people who don't really have much 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:21.719 respect for what the American experiment was really all about. 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:25.840 So so it doesn't surprise me that they would go 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:31.320 this low and degrade our system to the to the 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.520 extent that they are because the people who are really 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.480 pulling the levers of power now, they don't like our system. 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.040 They think it's corrupt, and they think it's it itself 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:45.200 needs to be smashed and reformed and remade into something 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:50.120 that's much less accountable to the people who who they 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.960 believe are also corrupt and racist. Um So, I think 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.440 that's really the conundrum that we're facing, is a is 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.960 a ruling class that has no respect for our foundation 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:05.200 stional documents, or uh, you know, our our entire framework 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:09.800 of of existence and liberty for the people and securing 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:13.600 liberty for the people. They don't like that, and that 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:16.120 that that kind of system gave us Donald Trump in 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.360 and you know, it's propelled Rhonda Santists to embarrass all 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.760 these other governors who kept their states closed. So I 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.120 think I think Americans overwhelmingly want things to get better that. 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.560 I think they overwhelmingly want things to go back to 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:34.400 quote normal, um, the new normal that we see we 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:38.080 see playing out since the pandemic. And we all now 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.039 see the truth about that. I mean some of us 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.200 saw it early on, but you know that's right, better 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:46.320 later later than never. But people want to return to 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.839 normalcy of a government they can they don't necessarily will trust, 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:53.680 but they think is not purely existing to make their 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.760 lives miserable. Uh. And I think that's what we're gonna 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.560 we're gonna see play out in these election cycles coming up. 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.520 And how is a nation survive in in the environment 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.480 that you laid out when you have half of the country, 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.120 the people on the left, undermining our institutions and not 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.960 believing in our institutions, you know, not believing in the 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:14.280 documents that created this nation and created the framework for 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:17.960 the nation. Yeah, how does a nation survive in that environment? Well, 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.400 I think the only way we can the only way 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:24.640 we've ever gotten through every incredibly difficult situation, whether it 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:28.440 was a Great Depression or civil rights struggle or you know, 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.240 the Civil War. I mean, we have to as a 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:37.039 people decide that we aren't going to tolerate a certain 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.680 type of leader, that we're gonna we're going to encourage 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:44.160 and support those leaders who actually respect the people. And 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.040 I think you see signs of that happening. I mean 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.800 they're I think there are too many conservatives out there, 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:52.320 and not just conservatives, but other people who say, oh, 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:53.719 we're going to hell and a hand basket, there's no 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.520 turning back, it's all law, all hope is lost. I mean, 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:01.440 nobody wants to follow that that mindset. Reagan came in 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:07.039 in nineteen eighty in an environment that was so broken 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:12.120 for America. I mean, we had our embassy held hostage, 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:16.320 we had we had Iran erupting, we had the Soviet 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:22.440 Union still threatening US, we had a massive economic disaster 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:26.520 on our hands, and we had we had a complete 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.640 decline and patriotism and in a lack of respect for 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.400 our military. I mean across the board. In nineteen seventy 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:38.480 nine nine, going into nineteen eighty, America was in a 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:42.160 huge mass. We had terrible crime, cities were a mass, 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.680 and we had someone to say no, no, no no, it's 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:47.880 gonna be morning in America. There's that we don't have 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.720 to live this way. So I believe this comes from 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.720 the people, and to finally people get fed up and 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.280 they propelled someone like Reagan. But remember Reagan lost in 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.400 nineteen seventy six. He lost the nomination in seventy six, 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:03.640 not by a lot, but he began to put together 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.920 his framework all the way back in sixty four when 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:10.360 they really all hope was lost for the conservative movement. 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:15.200 Talk about depressing back in sixty four. And so we 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:19.000 have to understand that things didn't get screwed up overnight, 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.800 and they're not gonna get fixed overnight. This is going 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.720 to take an enormous amount of work. But I think 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:26.760 it's possible. I mean, I just think there's so many 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:31.360 amazing young leaders out there, from whether it's Josh Holly 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:35.040 or Tom Cotton or De Santist. Obviously, people like Christy 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:39.280 Nome and Um you know, all the great political leadership 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:43.760 we've seen in Texas, Greg Abbott, and so I think 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:45.840 there's a lot of hope. And I think I think 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.040 we're seeing this kind of begin to bubble up in 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:51.960 the younger people winning these primaries. You know, some of 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.760 them won't win, some of them will win. But these 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:58.320 are people who are you know, these are Hispanics, these 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:02.480 are African Americans, these are these are moms, uh, young 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.320 business people who have just decided, you know something, I'm 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.360 not gonna sit on the sidelines. I'm gonna get involved. 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.920 And I think that's surprising the Democrats right now. I 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:17.360 think that's shocking them of how Republicans have really thrown 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.720 off the cloak of the old establishment that failed us 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:24.319 for decades and it began begun to really embrace this 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:31.000 more populist conservatism that you know that Trump smartly grabbed 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:34.440 onto and rode all the way to the presidency. In So, 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:35.920 I think there's a lot of hope, but it's going 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:37.840 to take a lot of work. Well you, of course, 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.400 we're a speech raider during the Reagan administration. But to 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.120 your point, I believe that's why they're they're cracking down, 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.360 because you are sort of seeing this upraising really not 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.120 just in the United States but around the world, the 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.280 people standing up to their government saying this is enough. 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:55.360 COVID really accelerated the rise of authoritarianism in the West, 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.280 and I think it's open some eyes. I was interested 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.439 to see, Laura. I'm sure you you of Andrew Cuomo, 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.320 the guy who killed elderly people, then covered it up 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.400 saying that whoa, whoa, this is a bridge too far. 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:12.120 It must be more than a search for inconsequential archives 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.480 or will be viewed as a political tactic. So even 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.400 seeing someone like him as corrupt as he is saying 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:21.240 that this is corrupt. Yeah, I think that Democrats who 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:24.440 have kind of um been around politics for a long 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:29.360 time should be very careful about what they're saying about 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:33.760 this search warrant. I mean, I saw Schumer didn't say anything. 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:35.840 He didn't want to get dragged into it. Bernie Sanders 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.640 didn't say anything that Maybe that's just a political tactic. 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:42.200 I don't know, but I gotta say, I mean to 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.839 to drop a warrant on a former president of the 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:47.480 United States and the guy is probably gonna be the 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:53.120 party's nominee in man, you better you better have like 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.800 espionage or something like that. That's just something we that'sn 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.760 something speaking of norms that they supposedly are so worried 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:03.200 about protecting. That is something we do not do. We 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:06.600 do not do that as a country, and they decided 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.720 to go there. I think least you're right they're very 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:14.560 worried about Trump winning again, because I kind of joke 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.520 and I say, I say Trump comes back, is going 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.360 to be no more Mr nice guy. I kind of 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:24.440 joke about that. But because he he now has he's learned. 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.120 I would think that he's learned that you have to 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.920 have great staff, which I think he actually did have 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:30.800 at the end. He might not, he might not agree 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:32.559 with that, but actually think he really did have good staff, 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.720 especially at the end. You have to have great staff, 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:36.760 and you have to hit the rent ground running because 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:40.880 the the the swamp will eat you up. And the 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:44.760 in this lionizing of the of the military leadership, which 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.679 he did, and I talked about this a lot this week, 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.640 the lionizing of the generals. Just because someone's called a 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:54.400 general doesn't doesn't it doesn't mean that this is someone 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.440 who you have to I think is right on every 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.400 single issue in fact, these generals have been brought up 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:04.440 through the ranks of political correctness and diversity, equity inclusion, 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.800 and most of them are just worried about the defense 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.080 contractor board that they're gonna land on in five years. 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:15.120 So Trump, I think, has had his eyes opened about 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.280 the truth of the bureaucracy, the truth about the Pentagon, 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:22.199 the failures there for for decades and decades we haven't 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.440 won a war out right, Why is that? Why don't 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.920 we ever ask for accountability on that? And so I 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:32.120 think that Trump wins this time, Lisa, And he's not 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.480 going to talk about draining the swamp. He's going to 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:38.280 drain the swamp you talk about you talk about terrifying 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.520 for them, Yeah, that's gonna be terrifying. So I think 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:45.040 I think they pulled out all the stops because Aviator 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.640 sunglasses man ain't gonna beat him next time. Yeah, I mean, 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.560 he rolled the curtain back on how corrupt and broken 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.080 or government truly is. I think it opened a lot 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.880 of eyes. He opened my eyes for sure, really changed 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.840 my thinking on a lot of things politically. But ultimately, 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:03.360 isn't this about the annualization to free speech and wrong thing? Oh? Yeah, 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:07.200 I think This is one big intimidation play. And I 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.920 think the way they handled January six, I said it. 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.000 I think the first week after the you know, after 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.560 the riot at the Capitol, that this was going to 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:26.079 be used as a way to surveil justification for more surveillance, monitoring, intimidation. Uh, 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.360 you saw what Justice Department did with this domestic Terror 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:34.880 unit and expanding what actually qualifies as domestic terror. So 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.599 I think they want Americans to think twice before they 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.920 show up at a rally, or before they post online, 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:47.000 before they open up a Christian school, Um, you know, 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.560 before they go to a gun safety class. I mean, 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:55.320 I I honestly think there Their goal here is to 0:13:55.400 --> 0:14:01.080 make the average American complainant compliant and and and and 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.319 and worried and with good and with good reason. I mean, 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.200 when you when you're trying to criminalize parents at school 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:10.200 board meetings and call that and tackle a father who's daughter, 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:14.120 who's whose daughter was raped in a bathroom. I mean, 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.000 as you saw in that Loudon County video that I 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:21.000 think changed the whole course of the gubernatorial race and 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:24.880 in Virginia, I mean, this is gestapo stuff. This is 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.160 this is stuff that you know when I lived in 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:30.400 the Soviet Union, when I was a student back at Dharmouth. 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:32.920 I mean, I saw that stuff in the Soviet Union. 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.480 We were we were scared about who we talked to, 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.280 and we were there because we knew we were being watched. 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.360 Without getting too conspiratorial, I mean, how how much farther 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.160 down the road do we have to get before we 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:47.920 approach that territory? I mean, I'm pretty fully convinced that 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.000 we're probably a monitored to some degree, to be perfectly honest, 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.160 but uh, you know, I mean it's just if if 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.160 you're you know, if we're being honest about it, Uh, 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:59.120 they're probably tracking us, but you know, we're a Republicans. 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:05.000 Like Mitch McConnell, I think he truly is stunned that 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:10.280 the party has already left him. I honestly think he 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.880 really can't believe that the party is not his party anymore. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.200 It doesn't matter if he's called Senate Majority Leader. The 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:21.080 people aren't with him, and I think it took him 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:24.520 a while to grudgingly admit it. Obviously, in the aftermath 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:28.360 of this raid on Trump, I think he was thinking 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:32.400 Trump was finished. Trump was murmuring about coming back, but 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.600 come on, all right, that's not gonna happen Donald Trump. 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.000 I mean, the old guard knows what's best for the 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:43.200 people on trade and immigration and government spending, and and 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.720 I think he was truly shocked when, after he was 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:53.040 outmaneuvered on that climate change bill, uh, that the reaction 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:57.880 to the Trump raid was unify the party around the 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:01.760 guy who has the America first, and not around the 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:07.160 guy who's allowed government to grow and who has never 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.120 met a defense authorization that he doesn't like, which is 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.040 Mitch McConnell. So I think I think he truly was 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.360 shocked about that, and he was shamed into coming out 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:20.280 and making the most flaccid of statements about this raid, 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:25.240 about oh, well, we're expected Joseus Barbara has to be 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:29.080 very transparent about this. Yeah, no kidding, no kidding, they 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.360 have to be transparent about it. But it took him, 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:36.640 you know, a full twenty four hours to make any 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.160 statement that he was only he was shamed into making 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.560 that statement about the raid. But again it was a 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.880 weak statement. So I think he's I think he's shocked. 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:48.280 I think if they if you know, it's unlikely that 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.000 they're going to win the Senate at least, if the 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:54.560 races were held today, the Republicans shockingly might not win 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.560 the Senate back. But if they did with the set 0:16:56.560 --> 0:17:01.840 it back, Mitch McConnell's position as a majority leader isn't 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.000 a sure thing, that's for sure. Speaking of that, what 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.600 what impact do you think this has on the electorate 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.320 heading into the mid terms. Well, the raid I think 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:13.520 unifies the party. I think it has the danger of 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:18.160 it has the danger of also stoking Democrat turn out 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.760 because Trump's out there again and maybe he'll announce he's 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:25.360 running for president again. And the concern is that they 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.640 hate him so much that now there are people were 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:31.400 going to turn out on Moss as well. But I'm 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.159 not sure. I mean, I'm really torn on and I 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:35.960 don't know if I'll have a great answer to this, Lisa, 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:43.400 because it's a tricky situation given how precarious people's personal 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:46.760 budgets are right now. I mean, most people are digging 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.760 into their savings at the middle income levels because their 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:53.360 salaries aren't keeping up with inflation. I mean, somehow today 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.920 they crowded about how, oh, inflation is only eight point 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.040 five They're celebrating that, what was it? What were they 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:03.000 celebrating like pennies off of gas prices and they think 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.359 everyone's paying double, but it's like, oh, you saved twenty 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.439 cents or whatever. Yeah, it's a great point. So I 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:11.800 think that the media will continue to try to resurrect 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:17.640 I should say resuscitate um Biden Biden's performance. Look, he's 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.720 got these winds at oh because called the change we 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:25.159 got the we got the chip bill. But celebrating winds 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:30.280 on their own because they were bills were past, that 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.040 doesn't translate into a better life for the average American. 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.560 So we'll see how this all plays out. I tend 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:39.399 to believe that it's going to make energy more expensive 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:45.159 and imports of various component parts of solar panels, everything 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:48.159 more more prevalent um. I don't think it's going to 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.040 do much to certainly raise the standard of living of 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.200 the average Americans. So I think their celebration or their 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:58.960 attempt to burnish the Biden record or turn around his momentum, 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.080 I think that's premature. Were but that's kind of all 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:05.160 they have has been. I don't think it necessarily means 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.320 that people in November are gonna say, oh God, I 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.919 want more of this. This has been fun. It has 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:13.240 been great. Let's go out and vote for that guy 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.760 when they you know, we haven't even talked about the border. 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:19.679 But I think the immigration is under underpolled as a 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.680 concern for people. Um, but I think when the school 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:25.920 year starts, we're gonna have a we're gonna have We're 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:29.200 gonna have a lot more concerned parents out there. Well, 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.720 it is hilarious that you've got people like Eric Adams, 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:35.280 You've got Democrats who are saying, oh, you know, diversity 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.400 is or strength, you know, let them come in. We 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:39.919 we need to take all of them. And then the 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.560 second buses start showing up to New York City, they're like, oh, 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.320 this is gonna overwhelm our schools, overwhelm our healthcare. And 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.679 it's like, as Republicans were, like, we've been saying this, 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.560 like that's the whole point. Welcome to the club. I 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:54.480 think you're right. And I think again, I think people 0:19:56.359 --> 0:20:01.800 people conflate Trump with with the people's overall sense of 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:06.520 happiness in the country. I mean, you know, Donald Trump 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.920 has been a friend of mine for twenty five years 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:12.399 and and I I'm always very open about this on 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:16.119 my on my show. But you know, we'll see whether 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:20.040 that's what the country wants. I mean, what the country country, 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:24.800 I think is so exhausted. They're exhausted by the battle, 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:31.479 the constant battle that they they may believe that, well, 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:33.560 maybe it's time to turn the page if we can 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:38.600 get someone who has all Trump's policies, who's not Trump right. 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:41.359 So the other concern though, and I don't have a 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.200 position on this one way or another, but the other 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:47.040 problem is is that it's really not about Trump right. 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:51.280 This is about the views that Trump now brought to 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.600 the fore for the Republican Party. They don't they don't 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.280 like his views. They don't like the fact that he 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:00.880 called out the military for their earliers, that he wanted 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:03.760 US to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan, that he 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:07.080 wanted to treat China and our trade relationship with China 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:11.320 in a in a much I mean it was smarter 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:15.680 but much different way than the globalists preferred. And they 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:17.680 certainly didn't like the fact that he sent all those 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.160 illegal immigrants back to Mexico that remained in Mexico. I mean, 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:25.240 they don't they think borders are immoral. They think, uh, 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:29.679 they owning you know, owning big SUVs is immoral. They 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.520 think eating too much beef is immoral, having air conditioning 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:36.040 as immoral. These people think that the American way of 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:40.840 life is immoral, and and it doesn't. It doesn't really 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:44.160 matter in the end whether it's Trump making the populous 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:48.400 conservative points or whether it's the Santists or someone like him. 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:53.040 They're going to come full bar against any Republican, even 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:55.199 an establishment when they saw what they did to Romney. 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:57.760 Romney was a caricature of Thurston Howell the Third by 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:01.440 the time they got done with him back. So yeah, 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:04.680 Trump is a is a is a placeholder right now 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:07.520 for the higher and fury of the left. But anyone 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:09.399 who steps into that breach is going to find the 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:13.520 same find the same pain being thrust at him or 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.680 her quick commercial break back with the Great Lord Ingram. 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:30.600 On the other side, we talked a little bit about 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:34.040 the economic climate right now in the country. My viewpoint 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:37.560 is they want Americans impoverished, right The whole point of 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:41.080 the Green agenda is to push people to more government control. 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:44.000 The poor people are, the less they have, the more 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:47.280 reliant upon the federal government they are. Well, I think 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:50.919 the more people are relying on the federal government, the 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:56.360 less freedom. They ultimately have to change their own destiny. 0:22:56.359 --> 0:23:02.119 And I think the left prefers things like lockdowns because 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:06.080 then people can't move and pollute the planet. They can't, 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:08.720 they don't think for themselves. The government tells them when 0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:10.960 they can travel, when they can go to church, when 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:15.320 they can you know, go to the store. The left 0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:17.639 loves making decisions for the people. They don't want the 0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:21.119 people to have the power. And that's why the lockdowns 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:26.920 were so damaging to our national psyche, to our to 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:30.240 our way of life too, the way people think about life. 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:32.200 You know, when you see people walking around in two 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:36.400 and three masks still, you know, this has had a 0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:40.720 profound effect on the American you know, American people, and 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:43.880 it's terrifying. Thank god we had these red state governors 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:49.200 who basically, you know, flip the bird to the to 0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:52.280