Speaker 1: We have a very very special guest for this episode,
Speaker 1: none other than the great Laura Ingram. You know Laura
Speaker 1: Ingram from The Ingram Angle on Fox News, always speaking
Speaker 1: the truth, fearless, independent minded, which I deeply respect. I
Speaker 1: love people like that. I love people like her. So
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you it's an honor to to have
Speaker 1: her guest as a guest on the show. You know
Speaker 1: her from TV. She previously was a nationally syndicated radio show,
Speaker 1: The Laura Ingram Show. And also before her media days,
Speaker 1: she worked as a speechwriter in the Reagan administration in
Speaker 1: the late nineteen eighties. You know, she went on to
Speaker 1: get her law degree. She worked as a judicial clerk
Speaker 1: in the Second Court of Appeals in New York, then
Speaker 1: for the United States Supreme Court for Justice Clarence Thomas.
Speaker 1: So she's lived an interesting life, obviously accomplished a great deal,
Speaker 1: but I think most importantly, she's fearless and she's brave.
Speaker 1: I originally wanted to have her on to talk about
Speaker 1: life and to talk about some of that, you know,
Speaker 1: really interesting work experience she had and how she got
Speaker 1: into media and all those sorts of things. And then
Speaker 1: the FBI decided to raid Trump right, and the country
Speaker 1: got turned upside down and my plans got turned upside
Speaker 1: down for the things I wanted to discuss. So now
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that the impact it has on
Speaker 1: the country. We'll get into other things too, but you know,
Speaker 1: primarily just sort of talk about the direction this nation
Speaker 1: is heading in. So I hope you enjoyed this conversation.
Speaker 1: I know it's an honor for me. Big fan of
Speaker 1: Laura Ingram, I'm sure you are too. So here she
Speaker 1: is Laura Ingram. So we've got a big show today,
Speaker 1: a big week obviously, a lot happening in the country.
Speaker 1: The great Laura Ingram is joining us. You know, Laura,
Speaker 1: I originally wanted to talk about life because you're a
Speaker 1: badass and I admire and respect you. But then the
Speaker 1: but then the but then the you know I do,
Speaker 1: but but then the FBI rated Trump. So you know,
Speaker 1: now we're here, Laura, and it feels like the country
Speaker 1: is forever changed and we have uncertain times ahead. I think, Lisa,
Speaker 1: we have arrived at the at the proverbial rubicon. And
Speaker 1: you know, if people know their history, uh, that wasn't good.
Speaker 1: People think, oh, we're at the rubicon, it's a new frontier. Now.
Speaker 1: This I think does so much to undermine what Americans
Speaker 1: need to believe about their government, namely that the government
Speaker 1: exists to make their lives better. It doesn't exist to
Speaker 1: turn them into enemies. It doesn't exist to vanquish political opponents.
Speaker 1: It actually is supposed to work for us. And if
Speaker 1: we begin to lose faith in our law enforcement and
Speaker 1: our federal investigative services to the extent that I think
Speaker 1: so many people are losing it now, you know, to
Speaker 1: quote new Gingrich on the angerm angle um this week,
Speaker 1: he said, we're at the precipice. I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: an exaggeration to say we're at the precipice now, because
Speaker 1: we know already. LI said that these forces on the
Speaker 1: left I don't like the Constitution. They're not interested in
Speaker 1: in the Framers. They think the Framers are a bunch
Speaker 1: of racists. And everything about America that has kind of
Speaker 1: held us together for two or in fifty years they
Speaker 1: think is inherently corrupt. Uh. And so they don't care
Speaker 1: if people don't believe the FBI is operating in good faith.
Speaker 1: They don't They don't care if people think the Justice
Speaker 1: Department is essentially the praetorian guard for a failing administration.
Speaker 1: I don't care about any of that, because they think
Speaker 1: the system itself is fatally flawed. They would much prefer,
Speaker 1: and I say they sort the elites who have helped
Speaker 1: build up China all these years and let our military
Speaker 1: deteriorate over all these years. They would far prefer America
Speaker 1: to be run under a global understanding where where all
Speaker 1: the big decisions are made elsewhere by people we don't
Speaker 1: vote for, and by people who don't really have much
Speaker 1: respect for what the American experiment was really all about.
Speaker 1: So so it doesn't surprise me that they would go
Speaker 1: this low and degrade our system to the to the
Speaker 1: extent that they are because the people who are really
Speaker 1: pulling the levers of power now, they don't like our system.
Speaker 1: They think it's corrupt, and they think it's it itself
Speaker 1: needs to be smashed and reformed and remade into something
Speaker 1: that's much less accountable to the people who who they
Speaker 1: believe are also corrupt and racist. Um So, I think
Speaker 1: that's really the conundrum that we're facing, is a is
Speaker 1: a ruling class that has no respect for our foundation
Speaker 1: stional documents, or uh, you know, our our entire framework
Speaker 1: of of existence and liberty for the people and securing
Speaker 1: liberty for the people. They don't like that, and that
Speaker 1: that that kind of system gave us Donald Trump in
Speaker 1: and you know, it's propelled Rhonda Santists to embarrass all
Speaker 1: these other governors who kept their states closed. So I
Speaker 1: think I think Americans overwhelmingly want things to get better that.
Speaker 1: I think they overwhelmingly want things to go back to
Speaker 1: quote normal, um, the new normal that we see we
Speaker 1: see playing out since the pandemic. And we all now
Speaker 1: see the truth about that. I mean some of us
Speaker 1: saw it early on, but you know that's right, better
Speaker 1: later later than never. But people want to return to
Speaker 1: normalcy of a government they can they don't necessarily will trust,
Speaker 1: but they think is not purely existing to make their
Speaker 1: lives miserable. Uh. And I think that's what we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna see play out in these election cycles coming up.
Speaker 1: And how is a nation survive in in the environment
Speaker 1: that you laid out when you have half of the country,
Speaker 1: the people on the left, undermining our institutions and not
Speaker 1: believing in our institutions, you know, not believing in the
Speaker 1: documents that created this nation and created the framework for
Speaker 1: the nation. Yeah, how does a nation survive in that environment? Well,
Speaker 1: I think the only way we can the only way
Speaker 1: we've ever gotten through every incredibly difficult situation, whether it
Speaker 1: was a Great Depression or civil rights struggle or you know,
Speaker 1: the Civil War. I mean, we have to as a
Speaker 1: people decide that we aren't going to tolerate a certain
Speaker 1: type of leader, that we're gonna we're going to encourage
Speaker 1: and support those leaders who actually respect the people. And
Speaker 1: I think you see signs of that happening. I mean
Speaker 1: they're I think there are too many conservatives out there,
Speaker 1: and not just conservatives, but other people who say, oh,
Speaker 1: we're going to hell and a hand basket, there's no
Speaker 1: turning back, it's all law, all hope is lost. I mean,
Speaker 1: nobody wants to follow that that mindset. Reagan came in
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty in an environment that was so broken
Speaker 1: for America. I mean, we had our embassy held hostage,
Speaker 1: we had we had Iran erupting, we had the Soviet
Speaker 1: Union still threatening US, we had a massive economic disaster
Speaker 1: on our hands, and we had we had a complete
Speaker 1: decline and patriotism and in a lack of respect for
Speaker 1: our military. I mean across the board. In nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: nine nine, going into nineteen eighty, America was in a
Speaker 1: huge mass. We had terrible crime, cities were a mass,
Speaker 1: and we had someone to say no, no, no no, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be morning in America. There's that we don't have
Speaker 1: to live this way. So I believe this comes from
Speaker 1: the people, and to finally people get fed up and
Speaker 1: they propelled someone like Reagan. But remember Reagan lost in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six. He lost the nomination in seventy six,
Speaker 1: not by a lot, but he began to put together
Speaker 1: his framework all the way back in sixty four when
Speaker 1: they really all hope was lost for the conservative movement.
Speaker 1: Talk about depressing back in sixty four. And so we
Speaker 1: have to understand that things didn't get screwed up overnight,
Speaker 1: and they're not gonna get fixed overnight. This is going
Speaker 1: to take an enormous amount of work. But I think
Speaker 1: it's possible. I mean, I just think there's so many
Speaker 1: amazing young leaders out there, from whether it's Josh Holly
Speaker 1: or Tom Cotton or De Santist. Obviously, people like Christy
Speaker 1: Nome and Um you know, all the great political leadership
Speaker 1: we've seen in Texas, Greg Abbott, and so I think
Speaker 1: there's a lot of hope. And I think I think
Speaker 1: we're seeing this kind of begin to bubble up in
Speaker 1: the younger people winning these primaries. You know, some of
Speaker 1: them won't win, some of them will win. But these
Speaker 1: are people who are you know, these are Hispanics, these
Speaker 1: are African Americans, these are these are moms, uh, young
Speaker 1: business people who have just decided, you know something, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna sit on the sidelines. I'm gonna get involved.
Speaker 1: And I think that's surprising the Democrats right now. I
Speaker 1: think that's shocking them of how Republicans have really thrown
Speaker 1: off the cloak of the old establishment that failed us
Speaker 1: for decades and it began begun to really embrace this
Speaker 1: more populist conservatism that you know that Trump smartly grabbed
Speaker 1: onto and rode all the way to the presidency. In So,
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of hope, but it's going
Speaker 1: to take a lot of work. Well you, of course,
Speaker 1: we're a speech raider during the Reagan administration. But to
Speaker 1: your point, I believe that's why they're they're cracking down,
Speaker 1: because you are sort of seeing this upraising really not
Speaker 1: just in the United States but around the world, the
Speaker 1: people standing up to their government saying this is enough.
Speaker 1: COVID really accelerated the rise of authoritarianism in the West,
Speaker 1: and I think it's open some eyes. I was interested
Speaker 1: to see, Laura. I'm sure you you of Andrew Cuomo,
Speaker 1: the guy who killed elderly people, then covered it up
Speaker 1: saying that whoa, whoa, this is a bridge too far.
Speaker 1: It must be more than a search for inconsequential archives
Speaker 1: or will be viewed as a political tactic. So even
Speaker 1: seeing someone like him as corrupt as he is saying
Speaker 1: that this is corrupt. Yeah, I think that Democrats who
Speaker 1: have kind of um been around politics for a long
Speaker 1: time should be very careful about what they're saying about
Speaker 1: this search warrant. I mean, I saw Schumer didn't say anything.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to get dragged into it. Bernie Sanders
Speaker 1: didn't say anything that Maybe that's just a political tactic.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I gotta say, I mean to
Speaker 1: to drop a warrant on a former president of the
Speaker 1: United States and the guy is probably gonna be the
Speaker 1: party's nominee in man, you better you better have like
Speaker 1: espionage or something like that. That's just something we that'sn
Speaker 1: something speaking of norms that they supposedly are so worried
Speaker 1: about protecting. That is something we do not do. We
Speaker 1: do not do that as a country, and they decided
Speaker 1: to go there. I think least you're right they're very
Speaker 1: worried about Trump winning again, because I kind of joke
Speaker 1: and I say, I say Trump comes back, is going
Speaker 1: to be no more Mr nice guy. I kind of
Speaker 1: joke about that. But because he he now has he's learned.
Speaker 1: I would think that he's learned that you have to
Speaker 1: have great staff, which I think he actually did have
Speaker 1: at the end. He might not, he might not agree
Speaker 1: with that, but actually think he really did have good staff,
Speaker 1: especially at the end. You have to have great staff,
Speaker 1: and you have to hit the rent ground running because
Speaker 1: the the the swamp will eat you up. And the
Speaker 1: in this lionizing of the of the military leadership, which
Speaker 1: he did, and I talked about this a lot this week,
Speaker 1: the lionizing of the generals. Just because someone's called a
Speaker 1: general doesn't doesn't it doesn't mean that this is someone
Speaker 1: who you have to I think is right on every
Speaker 1: single issue in fact, these generals have been brought up
Speaker 1: through the ranks of political correctness and diversity, equity inclusion,
Speaker 1: and most of them are just worried about the defense
Speaker 1: contractor board that they're gonna land on in five years.
Speaker 1: So Trump, I think, has had his eyes opened about
Speaker 1: the truth of the bureaucracy, the truth about the Pentagon,
Speaker 1: the failures there for for decades and decades we haven't
Speaker 1: won a war out right, Why is that? Why don't
Speaker 1: we ever ask for accountability on that? And so I
Speaker 1: think that Trump wins this time, Lisa, And he's not
Speaker 1: going to talk about draining the swamp. He's going to
Speaker 1: drain the swamp you talk about you talk about terrifying
Speaker 1: for them, Yeah, that's gonna be terrifying. So I think
Speaker 1: I think they pulled out all the stops because Aviator
Speaker 1: sunglasses man ain't gonna beat him next time. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: he rolled the curtain back on how corrupt and broken
Speaker 1: or government truly is. I think it opened a lot
Speaker 1: of eyes. He opened my eyes for sure, really changed
Speaker 1: my thinking on a lot of things politically. But ultimately,
Speaker 1: isn't this about the annualization to free speech and wrong thing? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think This is one big intimidation play. And I
Speaker 1: think the way they handled January six, I said it.
Speaker 1: I think the first week after the you know, after
Speaker 1: the riot at the Capitol, that this was going to
Speaker 1: be used as a way to surveil justification for more surveillance, monitoring, intimidation. Uh,
Speaker 1: you saw what Justice Department did with this domestic Terror
Speaker 1: unit and expanding what actually qualifies as domestic terror. So
Speaker 1: I think they want Americans to think twice before they
Speaker 1: show up at a rally, or before they post online,
Speaker 1: before they open up a Christian school, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: before they go to a gun safety class. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I honestly think there Their goal here is to
Speaker 1: make the average American complainant compliant and and and and
Speaker 1: and worried and with good and with good reason. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you when you're trying to criminalize parents at school
Speaker 1: board meetings and call that and tackle a father who's daughter,
Speaker 1: who's whose daughter was raped in a bathroom. I mean,
Speaker 1: as you saw in that Loudon County video that I
Speaker 1: think changed the whole course of the gubernatorial race and
Speaker 1: in Virginia, I mean, this is gestapo stuff. This is
Speaker 1: this is stuff that you know when I lived in
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union, when I was a student back at Dharmouth.
Speaker 1: I mean, I saw that stuff in the Soviet Union.
Speaker 1: We were we were scared about who we talked to,
Speaker 1: and we were there because we knew we were being watched.
Speaker 1: Without getting too conspiratorial, I mean, how how much farther
Speaker 1: down the road do we have to get before we
Speaker 1: approach that territory? I mean, I'm pretty fully convinced that
Speaker 1: we're probably a monitored to some degree, to be perfectly honest,
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, I mean it's just if if
Speaker 1: you're you know, if we're being honest about it, Uh,
Speaker 1: they're probably tracking us, but you know, we're a Republicans.
Speaker 1: Like Mitch McConnell, I think he truly is stunned that
Speaker 1: the party has already left him. I honestly think he
Speaker 1: really can't believe that the party is not his party anymore.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if he's called Senate Majority Leader. The
Speaker 1: people aren't with him, and I think it took him
Speaker 1: a while to grudgingly admit it. Obviously, in the aftermath
Speaker 1: of this raid on Trump, I think he was thinking
Speaker 1: Trump was finished. Trump was murmuring about coming back, but
Speaker 1: come on, all right, that's not gonna happen Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: I mean, the old guard knows what's best for the
Speaker 1: people on trade and immigration and government spending, and and
Speaker 1: I think he was truly shocked when, after he was
Speaker 1: outmaneuvered on that climate change bill, uh, that the reaction
Speaker 1: to the Trump raid was unify the party around the
Speaker 1: guy who has the America first, and not around the
Speaker 1: guy who's allowed government to grow and who has never
Speaker 1: met a defense authorization that he doesn't like, which is
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell. So I think I think he truly was
Speaker 1: shocked about that, and he was shamed into coming out
Speaker 1: and making the most flaccid of statements about this raid,
Speaker 1: about oh, well, we're expected Joseus Barbara has to be
Speaker 1: very transparent about this. Yeah, no kidding, no kidding, they
Speaker 1: have to be transparent about it. But it took him,
Speaker 1: you know, a full twenty four hours to make any
Speaker 1: statement that he was only he was shamed into making
Speaker 1: that statement about the raid. But again it was a
Speaker 1: weak statement. So I think he's I think he's shocked.
Speaker 1: I think if they if you know, it's unlikely that
Speaker 1: they're going to win the Senate at least, if the
Speaker 1: races were held today, the Republicans shockingly might not win
Speaker 1: the Senate back. But if they did with the set
Speaker 1: it back, Mitch McConnell's position as a majority leader isn't
Speaker 1: a sure thing, that's for sure. Speaking of that, what
Speaker 1: what impact do you think this has on the electorate
Speaker 1: heading into the mid terms. Well, the raid I think
Speaker 1: unifies the party. I think it has the danger of
Speaker 1: it has the danger of also stoking Democrat turn out
Speaker 1: because Trump's out there again and maybe he'll announce he's
Speaker 1: running for president again. And the concern is that they
Speaker 1: hate him so much that now there are people were
Speaker 1: going to turn out on Moss as well. But I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. I mean, I'm really torn on and I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'll have a great answer to this, Lisa,
Speaker 1: because it's a tricky situation given how precarious people's personal
Speaker 1: budgets are right now. I mean, most people are digging
Speaker 1: into their savings at the middle income levels because their
Speaker 1: salaries aren't keeping up with inflation. I mean, somehow today
Speaker 1: they crowded about how, oh, inflation is only eight point
Speaker 1: five They're celebrating that, what was it? What were they
Speaker 1: celebrating like pennies off of gas prices and they think
Speaker 1: everyone's paying double, but it's like, oh, you saved twenty
Speaker 1: cents or whatever. Yeah, it's a great point. So I
Speaker 1: think that the media will continue to try to resurrect
Speaker 1: I should say resuscitate um Biden Biden's performance. Look, he's
Speaker 1: got these winds at oh because called the change we
Speaker 1: got the we got the chip bill. But celebrating winds
Speaker 1: on their own because they were bills were past, that
Speaker 1: doesn't translate into a better life for the average American.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how this all plays out. I tend
Speaker 1: to believe that it's going to make energy more expensive
Speaker 1: and imports of various component parts of solar panels, everything
Speaker 1: more more prevalent um. I don't think it's going to
Speaker 1: do much to certainly raise the standard of living of
Speaker 1: the average Americans. So I think their celebration or their
Speaker 1: attempt to burnish the Biden record or turn around his momentum,
Speaker 1: I think that's premature. Were but that's kind of all
Speaker 1: they have has been. I don't think it necessarily means
Speaker 1: that people in November are gonna say, oh God, I
Speaker 1: want more of this. This has been fun. It has
Speaker 1: been great. Let's go out and vote for that guy
Speaker 1: when they you know, we haven't even talked about the border.
Speaker 1: But I think the immigration is under underpolled as a
Speaker 1: concern for people. Um, but I think when the school
Speaker 1: year starts, we're gonna have a we're gonna have We're
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot more concerned parents out there. Well,
Speaker 1: it is hilarious that you've got people like Eric Adams,
Speaker 1: You've got Democrats who are saying, oh, you know, diversity
Speaker 1: is or strength, you know, let them come in. We
Speaker 1: we need to take all of them. And then the
Speaker 1: second buses start showing up to New York City, they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is gonna overwhelm our schools, overwhelm our healthcare. And
Speaker 1: it's like, as Republicans were, like, we've been saying this,
Speaker 1: like that's the whole point. Welcome to the club. I
Speaker 1: think you're right. And I think again, I think people
Speaker 1: people conflate Trump with with the people's overall sense of
Speaker 1: happiness in the country. I mean, you know, Donald Trump
Speaker 1: has been a friend of mine for twenty five years
Speaker 1: and and I I'm always very open about this on
Speaker 1: my on my show. But you know, we'll see whether
Speaker 1: that's what the country wants. I mean, what the country country,
Speaker 1: I think is so exhausted. They're exhausted by the battle,
Speaker 1: the constant battle that they they may believe that, well,
Speaker 1: maybe it's time to turn the page if we can
Speaker 1: get someone who has all Trump's policies, who's not Trump right.
Speaker 1: So the other concern though, and I don't have a
Speaker 1: position on this one way or another, but the other
Speaker 1: problem is is that it's really not about Trump right.
Speaker 1: This is about the views that Trump now brought to
Speaker 1: the fore for the Republican Party. They don't they don't
Speaker 1: like his views. They don't like the fact that he
Speaker 1: called out the military for their earliers, that he wanted
Speaker 1: US to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan, that he
Speaker 1: wanted to treat China and our trade relationship with China
Speaker 1: in a in a much I mean it was smarter
Speaker 1: but much different way than the globalists preferred. And they
Speaker 1: certainly didn't like the fact that he sent all those
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants back to Mexico that remained in Mexico. I mean,
Speaker 1: they don't they think borders are immoral. They think, uh,
Speaker 1: they owning you know, owning big SUVs is immoral. They
Speaker 1: think eating too much beef is immoral, having air conditioning
Speaker 1: as immoral. These people think that the American way of
Speaker 1: life is immoral, and and it doesn't. It doesn't really
Speaker 1: matter in the end whether it's Trump making the populous
Speaker 1: conservative points or whether it's the Santists or someone like him.
Speaker 1: They're going to come full bar against any Republican, even
Speaker 1: an establishment when they saw what they did to Romney.
Speaker 1: Romney was a caricature of Thurston Howell the Third by
Speaker 1: the time they got done with him back. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Trump is a is a is a placeholder right now
Speaker 1: for the higher and fury of the left. But anyone
Speaker 1: who steps into that breach is going to find the
Speaker 1: same find the same pain being thrust at him or
Speaker 1: her quick commercial break back with the Great Lord Ingram.
Speaker 1: On the other side, we talked a little bit about
Speaker 1: the economic climate right now in the country. My viewpoint
Speaker 1: is they want Americans impoverished, right The whole point of
Speaker 1: the Green agenda is to push people to more government control.
Speaker 1: The poor people are, the less they have, the more
Speaker 1: reliant upon the federal government they are. Well, I think
Speaker 1: the more people are relying on the federal government, the
Speaker 1: less freedom. They ultimately have to change their own destiny.
Speaker 1: And I think the left prefers things like lockdowns because
Speaker 1: then people can't move and pollute the planet. They can't,
Speaker 1: they don't think for themselves. The government tells them when
Speaker 1: they can travel, when they can go to church, when
Speaker 1: they can you know, go to the store. The left
Speaker 1: loves making decisions for the people. They don't want the
Speaker 1: people to have the power. And that's why the lockdowns
Speaker 1: were so damaging to our national psyche, to our to
Speaker 1: our way of life too, the way people think about life.
Speaker 1: You know, when you see people walking around in two
Speaker 1: and three masks still, you know, this has had a
Speaker 1: profound effect on the American you know, American people, and
Speaker 1: it's terrifying. Thank god we had these red state governors
Speaker 1: who basically, you know, flip the bird to the to
Speaker 1: the Feds, into the into the Blue States and said
Speaker 1: we're not stay closed. Are you kidding me? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's thank god we had the Red States, Otherwise I
Speaker 1: don't know where economy would be today. I mean, I
Speaker 1: moved down to Florida for that reason of leaving New
Speaker 1: York wanting freedom. So smart I love it, Laura, I
Speaker 1: mean it's like life has just been so great here.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't miss New York at all, to
Speaker 1: be honest, it's it's been lovely New York. Sadly one
Speaker 1: of the great cities is turned into a crime ridden hell.
Speaker 1: It's gone back. So New York has gone back to
Speaker 1: what it was in the eighties and seventies, and after
Speaker 1: Julian they cleaned it up. Now it's going back and
Speaker 1: rents are still high. Everything is still expensive. And you know,
Speaker 1: the left got their way because now a lot of
Speaker 1: people have moved out and so the subway ridership is
Speaker 1: down meaning meaning what meaning more, the public public structures
Speaker 1: that they love so much are crumbling, so you don't
Speaker 1: have money to When you don't have people going into
Speaker 1: the city to work, then the city start to decay.
Speaker 1: So that's that's the flip side of there. Oh isn't
Speaker 1: it great? Remote work? Everyone's at home, no one's going
Speaker 1: in the office. Okay, well you tell, Let's see what
Speaker 1: the cities are looking like in five years. Let's see,
Speaker 1: let's see how they look. Do you think Americans are
Speaker 1: now connecting the dots and the correlation, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: you know, the bigger, the centralized government. The bigger the government,
Speaker 1: the more problems we have, the worse off we are
Speaker 1: as citizens. Do you think people are finally drawing you
Speaker 1: know that correlation after COVID? I think more are and
Speaker 1: it's going to take a continued effort to educate, entertain
Speaker 1: and inspire the voters uh to seal that message. And again,
Speaker 1: people forget that Reagan campaign in all fifty states. I
Speaker 1: believe it was almost all fifty states, and he finished
Speaker 1: up his campaign in I believe it was in the Bronx,
Speaker 1: So he went everywhere. It was a different world, obviously,
Speaker 1: and we have social media and all the everything that
Speaker 1: we have now. But I I maintain that the this
Speaker 1: populous movement has to be a fifty state movement. There's
Speaker 1: no reason that we should have twelve, you know, Democrats
Speaker 1: in New England in the U. S. Senate, even even
Speaker 1: if they're even if sometimes they're called Republicans, they act
Speaker 1: like Democrats. There's no reason for that. I mean, these
Speaker 1: are great states. I grew up in Connecticut. It's a
Speaker 1: beautiful state. So it's not gonna happen overnight. I will
Speaker 1: say that again. But I really believe that our motto
Speaker 1: should be no state left behind, no city left behind.
Speaker 1: You know, we love this country, We love every aspect
Speaker 1: of the country, and we refuse to give up on St. Louis,
Speaker 1: on Chicago, on Oakland, on Hartford. We we we were
Speaker 1: not going to give up on you. The left is
Speaker 1: given up on you. They use you. We're not going
Speaker 1: to do that for you. Here's a better way. And
Speaker 1: I think I think the more we sell that message
Speaker 1: and and not and be unafraid. It's easy to say,
Speaker 1: but we really have to be on a fraid. Oh
Speaker 1: they're gonna protest you. Of course they're gonna protest. They're
Speaker 1: gonna hate you. Of Of course they're gonna hate you. They're
Speaker 1: gonna call you a racist. Absolutely, we'll call you a racist,
Speaker 1: now what. So that that's how I think we have
Speaker 1: to approach all this. And I think that's the point.
Speaker 1: I mean, Republicans just need they need to stop looking
Speaker 1: for a pat on the head from the liberal media.
Speaker 1: Understand that we're all going to be we're all gonna
Speaker 1: be smeared, we're gonna be labeled. We all have. But
Speaker 1: I do think part of the path forward is through
Speaker 1: the states. I mean, we've got twenty three g P states,
Speaker 1: with trifecta government. If every governor in those states bucked
Speaker 1: up in the way that governor to Santa says, the
Speaker 1: federal government wouldn't have as much of an impact on
Speaker 1: their lives. Yeah, I mean most most governmance happens at
Speaker 1: the state level and the local level. That's why I
Speaker 1: think you're seeing more people run for school board and
Speaker 1: more people are getting involved. And I've ever seen from
Speaker 1: a wide you know, range of American society. Oh, and
Speaker 1: I think that's that's good. But we we do have
Speaker 1: to remember the states is where most of it happens.
Speaker 1: And we can't we can't. We can't just throw up
Speaker 1: our hands and say, oh, California has lost forever. No,
Speaker 1: it isn't a lost forever. It's look at what they've
Speaker 1: done to California. You think people want to live that way?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. But they do have a party
Speaker 1: machine that that that that churns out votes every you know,
Speaker 1: every two years. And we have to build back ard
Speaker 1: my our machine there. We used to have a party
Speaker 1: machine there. Where is it? So? I think I think
Speaker 1: if people believe that immigrants came to this country just
Speaker 1: to live at the poverty line, I don't think you're
Speaker 1: really understanding politics too well. I think people, for the
Speaker 1: most part. I'm not talking about the drug dealers and
Speaker 1: the human traffickers, but most immigrants who have come here
Speaker 1: to this country in the last twenty years, they came
Speaker 1: here because they want a better life, and and in
Speaker 1: the life that they're consigned to with with just you know,
Speaker 1: the minimum that the government will provide you in the
Speaker 1: quote safety net, that's not much. And I think we
Speaker 1: say stopped. It's time to stop demonizing rich people and
Speaker 1: start telling everyone if you work hard, you can be
Speaker 1: rich too, and free. And I think that's I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I want to be rich. I'd love to be rich,
Speaker 1: but I want everyone else to be rich to, you know,
Speaker 1: the left ones to be rich and then drag everyone
Speaker 1: else down and make it impossible for them to also
Speaker 1: get ahead. You know, Laura, is there anything you know?
Speaker 1: It really does feel like this upcoming midterm election is
Speaker 1: sort of a make or break moment for the country.
Speaker 1: But is there anything else you'd like to leave us
Speaker 1: with before we go? I think, um, all of us,
Speaker 1: and at times that seem so turbulent, and everything seems
Speaker 1: like it's operating on a knife's edge. I do think
Speaker 1: in this sounds that cliche, I know, but everybody has
Speaker 1: to take the time to just be with their friends
Speaker 1: and their family without a political moment, you know, with
Speaker 1: out of without politics tinging every aspect of our conversation,
Speaker 1: life goes by really fast, really really fast. So everybody,
Speaker 1: to the extent that you can take, even if it's
Speaker 1: an afternoon or an hour, take time away from devices
Speaker 1: and screens and really be together and and pray regularly.
Speaker 1: If you if you're a believer, pray. I mean sometimes
Speaker 1: we say we are believers that they don't. We don't
Speaker 1: really listen to what God's telling us. And I'm guilty
Speaker 1: of that. Um, I'm just really speaking to myself here.
Speaker 1: But step away from the chaos of of of life
Speaker 1: and and take those moments to really count your blessings
Speaker 1: and be grateful for everything that we have in this
Speaker 1: country and all those who sacrifice for us. And then
Speaker 1: you can, you know, pick yourself back up, and you know,
Speaker 1: get back to work, whatever your work is, do a
Speaker 1: great job, and and and really try to love each
Speaker 1: other a lot more. And it's not easy when you
Speaker 1: when you really just someone. I always tell my kids
Speaker 1: when someone fights with them or says something I said,
Speaker 1: pray for them. It's easy to like the people who
Speaker 1: are who are good to you, it's hard to pray
Speaker 1: for the people who are not so good to you.
Speaker 1: So I guess that's my staffie way to to close
Speaker 1: out well, and that means we're praying for a lot
Speaker 1: of people. It's a long list, Laura, so we got
Speaker 1: a lot of work to do. Laura Ingram, it's an honor.
Speaker 1: I really respect you, I respect your voice, and it's
Speaker 1: just an honor to have you on the show. So
Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking the time. Congrats on
Speaker 1: the podcast. Can't wait to come back and come on
Speaker 1: TV soon. Love it, Laura, thank you so much. I
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. We'll talk to you certinly, so bye bye.
Speaker 1: What's that cool? I've always been a huge fan of
Speaker 1: Laura ingram. I. I love people who are into, pendently minded,
Speaker 1: who fight for what they believe, who are strong in
Speaker 1: their opinions, and that's Laura. So very cool for her
Speaker 1: to join the show. It truly was an honor to
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